The episode ends with an end card that reads "At any given moment, there are 3.4 million anonymous chat room users on the internet." Little did they know that the problem would only get worse with time
@@thewkovacs316 as someone who was groomed online I’d argue that it’s worse now, there are hundreds of social media apps now, that’s why they should make things 16+ and do id checks
The internet related stories are so out of touch with reality and so dated. Like, you don’t get the person’s name? You don’t just meet in a public place during the daytime hours? You get in a car instead of just meeting at a coffee shop? Literally nobody actually does that. I’ve met many people online and then in person and never have I been that naïve. 🤦🏻♀️
@Mr.Perfect Oh yes it is! Being an overprotective mom is not an excuse! If it was her father you would be losing it! Why should it be any different because it’s her mother?
Olivia seems so much colder towards victims in these earlier seasons, in later seasons, she makes sure to be as gentle as possible with any victims she interacts with every step of the way unless the situation calls for a more abrasive approach.
This Olivia is a much better detective. The later Olivia fell for social media hype about "believe all *alleged* victims" - the thing is, when you're first investigating, there's no reason to immediately assume that everything someone says is truthful.
@@obliviouzIn the real world, it's the latter. The police don't practice "Innocent until proven guilty" it's the reverse. You're guilty until proven innocent.
I honestly thought it was gonna be a twist with the mom being under investigation, I was honestly so surprised by how aloof they were about that tibit of knowledge. I feel like if a girl said her father did that to her, he would have been under investigation. Anyone can be a victim (survivor), and anyone can be an abuser
Of if it was a father/son pair, they'd probably investigate to. Imagin a dad being paranoid because he accidentally knocked up the wrong girl when he was young and he thinks it ruined his life, so he's doing that to make sure his son isn't knocking up a girl like he did. same thing, still creepy.
@@doctorposting never said authorities would do anything abt it lmao if they won't even charge a parent with molesting their child half the time it'd be impossible with this
1. If I had a kid and they called me like that, I'd be burning rubber before they had a chance to hang up. 2. She just said she was raped... why would she be ok??
It's sad how many kids I knew, myself included, who knew that our parents would not be there, deciding that "you went against my rules so you can get yourself out of the mess without any help." All it does is teach kids that even their family won't help them.
I know she lied, but I feel sorry for that girl. She's being sexually abused all around. Her mother makes her undress in front of her to make sure she's not sexually active, and she puts such strict limits that the teenage girl can't distinguish between healthy and unhealthy, safe and unsafe. Her dad proudly showcases photos of semi-naked girls on the computer. She receives very explicit emails from an online creep. Her boyfriend is 21, she is being groomed and was raped by him even if she doesn't quite understand it (and I'd actually argue that some of her distress was not an act). At this point even she made up the lie to protect herself from her mother's abuse she's still a very distressed girl subjected to sexual abuse she doesn't understand and can't process.
I remember chat rooms. I used to talked to a lot of people in the chatroom, then one day they want to meet me and I told my mom. She was furious when she knew. Couple days later there was a girl missing in my neighborhood. If my mom didn't know, I would've probably be kidnapped or something.
It's always wild watching some of these not very old shows that treat having a computer or internet connection (or cellphone) as the proof someone's the only possible bad guy.
@@ef7558even worse are what I call "attack helicopter parents." On the surface they're like regular helicopter parents but they're all about ensuring their kids never get away with anything and face maximum consequences for anything they do.
@@DanielleWhite Yeah and then the parents wonder why their kids distanced themselves as adults. If I had helicopter parents I'd rather be homeless than deal with being constantly hounded and leashed.
@@krishelfferich3487 not if they are interviewing them as a victim or witness of a crime. If they ask then usually police allow it but police don’t need consent from parent or guardian if they are questioning them on what happened, once they are named as a suspect then a parent must be present.
@@krishelfferich3487 actually in some states u can interrogate a minor without parents permission. Watch the girls who did the slenderman stabbing police interrogation, they were 12, parents weren't present during the interrogation and the police didn't ask for their permission.
Well the mom used to live on a farm with a husband, had her memory erased by government agents, moved to the big city and started a new life there with a daughter. Wonder who she had the daughter with.
Yeah, and if they're smart enough, they'll wait. A guy I met on the internet when I was much younger, we knew each other for almost SEVEN YEARS before he let the mask fall and revealed his true self. Scary world.
hahaha... hanks... i could remember her face but not from where..... thanks for reminding me..... that was a pleasant memory of a funny movie.. thanks.....
i get that you gotta have twists to keep the story interesting, but if your whole show is based on "ripped from the headlines" and there are a bunch of episodes of girls lying about being raped, a thing that happens, like, less than three percent of the time, you are going to skew the conversation in a very harmful and dangerous way.
@artofcreation_photos especially since sexual assault against boys under reported. But what they are talking about in that context is when you make somebody out to be a liar and you think that everybody and every single case or someone has been assaulted is lying makes it even more of a dangerous territory.
I can understand why her mother parents the way she did.. But this is her results.. Not the whole undressing her and “checking” but other than that I can understand why..
"All this time we spent looking for someone who doesn't exist is time that would've been spent looking for real victims" is exactly why the police said to stop calling them for people drawing fictional characters a few years back. They were right to be upset with her, but geez is her mom a piece of work.
Bro I hate false accusations, like bro there’s people out that are really being raped and stuff and not only are you waisting cops time you make other people’s stories hard to believe smh
Liv was more hard on victims back then because her mother was still liv. Liv didn't change until her mother died. A lot of victims lied to her but liv only had patients for kids at first in the earlier scenes.
Th8s was noty favorite episode of elliot and olivia. They werent even trying to help this girl then she goes and tells them that her own mother makes her get undressed and smells her hair? Like she wants to make sure she hadnt been out woth a boy? Thars just abuse right there and then they blame her for her being hurt? Typical cop behavior
I heard that my family. (who is in a submarine?) is sending money to a girl who is claiming to be my wife. ( I don't know her) and has a black guy who I Knew by the name of Willis whose name is Brian Ellinger with the same birth date apparently.but different ssn...... Is I guess cashing the checks or money that is sent. I heard something about him somehow stealing a house from me as well? and is given anything that comes to me..
Not happy about the mother checking over the daughter every time she comes home just because she messed up as a youth. But what is really messed up is the girl crying r**e just because she had fun with her older boyfriend. It just wastes police resources and time that could be used for real cases. 😡
“How old is that girl?”
“Not old enough, not nearly old enough.”
That’s was the best line
RIP Munch.
😊😊😅
The episode ends with an end card that reads "At any given moment, there are 3.4 million anonymous chat room users
on the internet." Little did they know that the problem would only get worse with time
chat room use has decreased over the years
it is not worse today
and throwing out a stat like that proves little
They use social media now.
Anonymity is not the problem or the issue. Protect anonymity.
@@thewkovacs316 as someone who was groomed online I’d argue that it’s worse now, there are hundreds of social media apps now, that’s why they should make things 16+ and do id checks
@@FrogWitch666 because you were an idiot doesn't mean the internet should be monitored.
I love the older episodes when they talk about the internet. Its just so old school haha
Back then, they called it the net
@@joewhitehead3 the interweb !
How is that old school?
The dark web.
The internet related stories are so out of touch with reality and so dated. Like, you don’t get the person’s name? You don’t just meet in a public place during the daytime hours? You get in a car instead of just meeting at a coffee shop? Literally nobody actually does that. I’ve met many people online and then in person and never have I been that naïve. 🤦🏻♀️
The mom making her undress and smelling her hair is so messed up. Like they just glossed over that? Wtf
I was thinking bout that too
it's why i really hated svu
That's not a crime. That's an overprotective mom. What do you want them to do?
Depends on what Hair she meant…
@Mr.Perfect
Oh yes it is! Being an overprotective mom is not an excuse! If it was her father you would be losing it! Why should it be any different because it’s her mother?
Olivia seems so much colder towards victims in these earlier seasons, in later seasons, she makes sure to be as gentle as possible with any victims she interacts with every step of the way unless the situation calls for a more abrasive approach.
Well, it would make sense for someone who isn't experienced.
It may have more to do with attitudes changing over the last 20 years, it’s clearly reflected in the writing.
This Olivia is a much better detective. The later Olivia fell for social media hype about "believe all *alleged* victims" - the thing is, when you're first investigating, there's no reason to immediately assume that everything someone says is truthful.
@@obliviouzIn the real world, it's the latter. The police don't practice "Innocent until proven guilty" it's the reverse. You're guilty until proven innocent.
They cant get emotionally involved with the victims..
I honestly thought it was gonna be a twist with the mom being under investigation, I was honestly so surprised by how aloof they were about that tibit of knowledge. I feel like if a girl said her father did that to her, he would have been under investigation. Anyone can be a victim (survivor), and anyone can be an abuser
Survivors are the bravest people❤
Of if it was a father/son pair, they'd probably investigate to. Imagin a dad being paranoid because he accidentally knocked up the wrong girl when he was young and he thinks it ruined his life, so he's doing that to make sure his son isn't knocking up a girl like he did. same thing, still creepy.
And they just gloss over her mother making her undress in front of her so she can "check" her? surely that's abuse of some sort?
@@twoofthree not really
@@doctorposting it is. it's sexual abuse.
@@feralnightwing good luck charging this parent with a crime lol
@@doctorposting never said authorities would do anything abt it lmao if they won't even charge a parent with molesting their child half the time it'd be impossible with this
Yes it is. Sexual abuse, most definitely. @@doctorposting
1. If I had a kid and they called me like that, I'd be burning rubber before they had a chance to hang up.
2. She just said she was raped... why would she be ok??
Also. That line "What have I done"... Well thought out. Very much how a victim would feel in a fucked up situation.
Yeah, but it’s important to know if she should call the police or an ambulance first.
It's sad how many kids I knew, myself included, who knew that our parents would not be there, deciding that "you went against my rules so you can get yourself out of the mess without any help." All it does is teach kids that even their family won't help them.
Mine left me to sit in the police station until she finished with her day and had something to eat afterwards.
That was a long day
they could of done the greatest crossover of all time for this episode.
"have a seat right there"
the legend chris 😂
I know she lied, but I feel sorry for that girl. She's being sexually abused all around. Her mother makes her undress in front of her to make sure she's not sexually active, and she puts such strict limits that the teenage girl can't distinguish between healthy and unhealthy, safe and unsafe. Her dad proudly showcases photos of semi-naked girls on the computer. She receives very explicit emails from an online creep. Her boyfriend is 21, she is being groomed and was raped by him even if she doesn't quite understand it (and I'd actually argue that some of her distress was not an act).
At this point even she made up the lie to protect herself from her mother's abuse she's still a very distressed girl subjected to sexual abuse she doesn't understand and can't process.
I remember chat rooms. I used to talked to a lot of people in the chatroom, then one day they want to meet me and I told my mom. She was furious when she knew. Couple days later there was a girl missing in my neighborhood. If my mom didn't know, I would've probably be kidnapped or something.
Was she ever found?
I can't see her mother talking to the authorities without hearing her describing the "Edgar suit" 🤣
😂😂😂
I thought she looked familiar.
The comment I was looking for 😂
Boy, the Internet was primitive back then.
It's always wild watching some of these not very old shows that treat having a computer or internet connection (or cellphone) as the proof someone's the only possible bad guy.
And yet, C.W. Simpson Productions, it's sadly relevant still like it was back then with additional information
Still is
@@prettyevil6662000 And with those HUGE monitors.
Age old saying: over-sheltered parenting almost always makes kids into better liars, not warriors of God.
Helicopter moms are the absolute worst! The kids are depressed, stressed and beyond MISERABLE because of their lack of capability to be free.
@@ef7558even worse are what I call "attack helicopter parents." On the surface they're like regular helicopter parents but they're all about ensuring their kids never get away with anything and face maximum consequences for anything they do.
@@DanielleWhite Yeah and then the parents wonder why their kids distanced themselves as adults. If I had helicopter parents I'd rather be homeless than deal with being constantly hounded and leashed.
"Make a quick left"
_Stabler turns right_
Did... did you not hear the immediate next line? "This here is a one way, I can only take a right."
Obliviouz u should give M your name lol
@@royalpine2499 🤣
Nice to see that Beatrice is doing at least alright after the death of Edgar at the hands of the bug.
Helicopter mom surprised her daughter acts out
"How old is that girl?"
Not old enough.. not nearly old enough.
Took me a second but I finally recognized her. The mom is the same lady who was the farmers wife from the first act of Men In Black.
Same speech pattern and facial expression as in Men in Black.
Gotta love the classics
'why did you get into his car??' so we just gonna completely ignore the fact that she said he had a gun literally 2s before??😒😒😒
It’s scary how oblivious this mother is. I mean my god she’s crazy
So...they are interrogating a minor without a parent/ guardian present?
Their not interrogate their interviewing her after being assaulted
@@karinaashmon Still have to have parent/guardian. In USA
@@krishelfferich3487 not if they are interviewing them as a victim or witness of a crime. If they ask then usually police allow it but police don’t need consent from parent or guardian if they are questioning them on what happened, once they are named as a suspect then a parent must be present.
@@krishelfferich3487 actually in some states u can interrogate a minor without parents permission. Watch the girls who did the slenderman stabbing police interrogation, they were 12, parents weren't present during the interrogation and the police didn't ask for their permission.
@@nomanejane5766 Funny you mention that
I'm from Wisconsin.
“Because he’s 21” huh
As soon as I heard that I yelled in my head SHOTS FIRED!
Her mom obliging her to undress is more disturbing and yet the cops wanted to talk to her boyfriend. That’s kinda messed up.
@@pepingrillin3995 the justice system. Whatcha gonna do?
as a former teen on the wild west of the internet. This happened, and happens, far more often than we think.
Benson's hair gave off the fact this is season 1
is it just me or is the insensitivity of the people involved super high....
Yes. The accusatory tone definitely feels dated.
Ikr pissing me off
Well the mom used to live on a farm with a husband, had her memory erased by government agents, moved to the big city and started a new life there with a daughter. Wonder who she had the daughter with.
But she went to Bloomingdale’s and got a nice dress
Thats hilarious 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Ahhh after she tells them about how her mom abuses her they get mad at her for lying, love that (sarcasm)
If you wanna personally meet with someone you met online, ALWAYS go to a public area. If anything happens, you'll have at least a few witnesses.
Yeah, and if they're smart enough, they'll wait. A guy I met on the internet when I was much younger, we knew each other for almost SEVEN YEARS before he let the mask fall and revealed his true self.
Scary world.
At 3:10, i like how Stabler just said "okay"
Ha! It's Edgar's wife. Good to see she Kay's moved and moved and hired a decorator after the neurolizer lol
hahaha... hanks... i could remember her face but not from where..... thanks for reminding me..... that was a pleasant memory of a funny movie.. thanks.....
It says on all other sources that "Chat Room" was Episode 18 of Season 1. "Nocturne" is Episode 21.
i get that you gotta have twists to keep the story interesting, but if your whole show is based on "ripped from the headlines" and there are a bunch of episodes of girls lying about being raped, a thing that happens, like, less than three percent of the time, you are going to skew the conversation in a very harmful and dangerous way.
@artofcreation_photos especially since sexual assault against boys under reported. But what they are talking about in that context is when you make somebody out to be a liar and you think that everybody and every single case or someone has been assaulted is lying makes it even more of a dangerous territory.
Chat room names are easily changed when predators realise they are in the radar of the police.
funny how 5 - 6 people focus on one case....
need several pairs of eyes and ears
Men in Black was a stark difference to this role
I can understand why her mother parents the way she did.. But this is her results..
Not the whole undressing her and “checking” but other than that I can understand why..
"All this time we spent looking for someone who doesn't exist is time that would've been spent looking for real victims" is exactly why the police said to stop calling them for people drawing fictional characters a few years back. They were right to be upset with her, but geez is her mom a piece of work.
Safety first when you're on the Internet, everyone.
A beige Mercury sable? Lol reminds me of Better Call Saul
Why dont we see the episodes until the end?..is it bothering anyone else??
cuz they want you to pay for peacock
@@thewkovacs316 but they're showing us episodes that are free are peacock
@@sadie_may Hey, I'm hooked but I'm still trying to get Peacock. But I will watch Law and Order, as God as My Witness!
You can find almost everything online these days. I usually use soap today. Can't post the link, but from what I said hopefully you figure it out.
Seems like this girl’s father was given sugar in water
i'm confused, does the yachtman exist or not? she says she and her friends made him up to prank each other, how do they have a photo of him?
Oh snap!!!! It’s shorty from men in black
Whoa this is from season ONE? I just watched Michelle Hurd on PICARD from last year she has aged fantastically.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🌏✝️ Protect your kids on the internet. How sick the internet has gotten targeting kids. Good job protecting those kids.
Bro I hate false accusations, like bro there’s people out that are really being raped and stuff and not only are you waisting cops time you make other people’s stories hard to believe smh
Seems to me they don’t believe anyone in the first place. So what’s the point?
@@andycavanaugh1219You're just not particularly intelligent, so it's not surprising you'd stumble there.
I love this TV show so much ❤❤❤❤
"Creepazoid" I've gotta remember that one
The moms the hillbilly wife out of MIB the one married to edger
Is this the actress from MIB?
0:39 thats what my cousin told me after he sexually assaulted me :'(
im so sorry love :(
Oh God so sorry 🙏
ty everyone who has responded :(
@@alyssarasmussen1723 think about telling someone you trust. Or talking to someone anonymously. It helps to talk. I send you love.
hope he roots in hell child 🙏 god bless you
I couldn’t do their job
This is season 1, episode 18 of SVU. Your description has the wrong episode number.
The Mother makes You do what????
Why is this episode "Chatroom" listed here as Season 01, Episode 21, but on Wikipedia it is listed as Season 01, Episode 18?
It's funny when the description for the show is wrong on the official Law & Order UA-cam lmfao. This isn't episode 21, this is episode 18 of season 1.
Hay it's that woman whose husband was an alien and liked sugar water. I wonder if she ever got new drapes? 🤔
Thats not Egger...lol
Nice video and hi
Is the mother the same actress who played Edgar's wife in MIB?
" I only know his screen name, Big_PeePee_Man69_im_gonna_attack_you"
Internet social media has been big alert
Her mother played on Men In Black
This is season one episode 18, not episode 21
Liv was more hard on victims back then because her mother was still liv. Liv didn't change until her mother died. A lot of victims lied to her but liv only had patients for kids at first in the earlier scenes.
Welcome to Baltimore
This is actually a season 1 episode 18, not 21.
Love her so much I love her
Wonder if her dad is recovering well after being blasted in his true bug form by the men in black 😮
Girl you never heard if taking a shower??
when the cops got your pc well better come clean young lady
Do you guys know the cops in charge of fraud?
Dude what are you talking about?😂 this is a video clip from a tv show
@@lemonlimesnout
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Is it possible that other people like these feeds?
😉
This guy stole my report numbers and won't stop attacking me
So she lied wasted police time and she's sorry because she didn't want her mum to find out
The penalties for a false claim of sexual assault should always be higher than a statute crime.
Is that Paz de la Huerta??
yes!
yup...and her mom was the wife of an alien in mib
that's why paz is so effed up
Det. Jeffries was my favorite. I miss her :(
I bet some sugar water mighta helped the mom XD If ya know, you know
Reuploaded version of an old video.... thats too bad
Th8s was noty favorite episode of elliot and olivia. They werent even trying to help this girl then she goes and tells them that her own mother makes her get undressed and smells her hair? Like she wants to make sure she hadnt been out woth a boy? Thars just abuse right there and then they blame her for her being hurt? Typical cop behavior
I love Olivia Benson
One of the earlier versions of Karen 🤨😂
The chick in this scene was on men in black.
Is the mum the abused wife in men in black?
The mom played the country wife in MIB
The slight undercurrent of victim blaming in this episode definitely feels dated. 😬
Really little girl? 🙄
Me too
This ought to have a lot more dislikes. The way they talked down to her was infuriating.
Season 1 Episode 18 Chat Room
This problem only got worse! they got AI now tracking down preds. The internet is soooo.... wild west still.
lmfao she forgot to tell Edgar how his skin was hanging off this bones
I heard that my family.
(who is in a submarine?)
is sending money to a girl who is claiming to be my wife.
( I don't know her)
and has a black guy who I Knew by the name of Willis whose name is Brian Ellinger with the same birth date apparently.but different ssn......
Is I guess cashing the checks or money that is sent.
I heard something about him somehow stealing a house from me as well? and is given anything that comes to me..
Girl needed a ride and sugar water
Yours and mine are only comments I found that made this connection. 🤣
You look great in those beautiful clothes ❤
They seem very victim blamey
Is that the mom from Holes?
Not happy about the mother checking over the daughter every time she comes home just because she messed up as a youth. But what is really messed up is the girl crying r**e just because she had fun with her older boyfriend. It just wastes police resources and time that could be used for real cases. 😡
Sta let’s first name