The order is challengeable but at least it gives a good picture of what is out there for the MPA mission. I think that CN-235 is behind C-295 MPA by far now. I worked on this program with EADS/CASA the OEM that is now focusing on the C-295 aircraft. One key question is that if you had to acquire MPA capacity which one will you buy?
P-1's radars are AESA radars similar to that fitted on Aegis destroyer and fighter aircraft. Paired with combination of air-air missile or air-ship missile, it has the potential to decimate any surface fleet and hostile aircraft beyond visual range. Not to be underestimated as mere a maritime patrol aircraft.
@@doggovision5817 Nope, the P-8 is bad at maneuvering, target tracking, armament range, it has the acceleration of a 737, and most importantly, it has half the range of the P-3
mr Tack If my English is weird, please complain to Google. If the development of the drone goes wrong, or if it is delayed considerably, it may be a military mistake, but if it fits well, the P-8 is a different dimension of patrol control than the P-3. I think it will be an opportunity. If it's a P-3, I think the Kawasaki P-1 is a better aircraft.
@@anonymouswizard5535 replacement is a fact of age not quality of performance; if it were possible to have kept the old Canadian Argus flying then they would never have been replaced, just upgraded ;but airframes have limited time
Would an Osprey have any advantage as a search and rescue aircraft? It could get to a wreck faster than a helicopter, and then remain stationary as rescue divers worked to save a crew.
Because of the things the others can't do.....like fly at 30 feet with saltwater splash hitting their intakes.... Amongst it's other strengths in comparison to the other platforms.
The P3 Orion is nearly obsolete and being currently replaced by the P-8 Poseidon, which has the latest avionics and technology installed. The P-1 rivals nearly equal to the P-8, with different tactics designed in mind, which makes it hard to actually compare which is better or not. It uses 4 instead of two engines, which makes it safer to operate in the large bodies of sea without worries of needing to return to base if an engine is malfunctioning, unlike the P-8, which would need to due to the fact it only has two engines. Also, the P-8 is designed for high altitude and speed, while the P-1 is designed for both high and low altitude operations with slower stall speeds, but preferably slower speeds. The technology is also very different, making it harder to compare. One of the benefits of the P-8 is an abundance of spare parts if needed for repairs, due to being designed on a commercial airliner. The P-1 however is built specifically for military use, making spare parts harder to find for repairs.
Because the P-3 is better. Say what you want about its age, but it's way ahead of its time. On the other hand the P-8 is slow and it isn't as maneuverable as the P-3
Wheres the CP 140 Aurora? This Canadian plane has a 9000 km range and is basically an Orion with the Vikings avionics. Canada has the longest coastline in the world and this plane has been our workhorse for decades.
This more effective than carriers because response time and capacity can deliver LSRAM up to 200 miles acurate range eliminate all sea threat or land force without being threaten by AA because no AA can get beyond 20 miles
No exactly. The airframe is French, but in the case of the ATR72 MP, Leoanardo in Italy is the prime and ATR is simply a sub that provides airframes. The airframe is built in France but then converted to the MP configuration in Italy.
yes but nope airframe is built in Italy and wings in France so is from both country btw this is a weapon system, so if the italian Leonardo bought the aircraft and mod it with eletronic system and weapon is an italian one, just like israel AEW&CS is the system applied on different type of airframe from different nations, so... stupid comment for stupid nation pride
fabio tra well you do not understand it is just to be fair for example the Rafale is French because totally made in France but the typhoon is not Italian because only a few parts are made in Italy. Another example a song doesn’t belong to the music writer only, it is the result of a team. So the ATR is the result of a team work
Olá sou brasileiro, e boa parte dos aviões militares fabricados aqui são da EMBRAER como este referido no vídeo e o A29 super tucano, boa tarde (Aqui no Brasil já é de tarde)
I was waiting for the Tu-95RT The AN-72 it's called Cheburashka by the Russians because their engines and air intake ducts are located near to the fuselage of the aircraft, looking similar to the animated teddy bear. I watched that as a kid :") Our face reveal is close 😉
You see with the aircrafts and all the machines buzzing hums it's not so bad to know avg for a type stat operational flown or worked charts by hours daily or yearly. With the flying cylinders, sausages and or cigars as well as with all UFO and aircrafts those parametres depend crucially on the engines, fuel types, territories, environment, and the companies of men and women they are being operated in and by. What concerns com, fuel and currencies consumption characteristics you might have been supposedly fully updated on the matter already. Com as you may probably know is an army word for commerce in some english like speaking vocabularies.
@@tack9571 In what way? The P-8 gets on station faster, has more time on station, is much more comfortable for the crew, has aerial refueling, has a much better radar, doesn't need as many crew, and is much more upgradable.
@@pahtar7189 The P-3 is a proven design, it can perform evasive maneuvers fast, some variants have aerial refueling, strong airframe, superior handling (it's easier to fly) more customizable, it can also be used as an air tanker, a land surveillance aircraft, AWACS aircraft and many more. It can also carry various different weapons like air to surface missiles, some have air to air missiles (idk why) and it can be fitted with modernized RADAR systems that are superior to the P-8, oh and it also has over twice the range (which is really important)
Lol the replies to this comment seem to be from individuals who have never flown in any of these aircraft yet are extremely convinced they are right. At least the American version of the p-8 blows the American version of the P-3 out of the water in nearly every way.
@@tack9571 Where you get the range number? Because the wiki, which draws from the official unclassified numbers shows the p-8 to have a slightly higher combat range.
None of the An aircraft (inc An74) are Ukrainian. They are soviet and were just assembled in Kharkov. Ukraine is not able to produce any air-craft as most parts are produced in Russia
Having 4 engines causing more disruption with sensors for detection from what UK trial found out thus UK went with more expensive P8. P1 also made an error with claim that S Korean destroyers used targeting radar on them when they were using detection radar to rescue N Korean fisherman.
indonesian CN 235 MPA is better because it can compete and its really cheap and doesnt need a lot of maintenance and even though CN 235 was bulid in the 1800 it still can compete with a little upgrade that dont costs that much plus now the countries who manufactured it is alot ,and its 100% created in indonesia and 50 50 for who made it
@@rabbaniazzahra1784 hahaha funny 😂 🖕 cn 235 is lost of load capacity and not a multirole maritime its from the sea compare to p-3 and p-8 from us its anti submarin and from land and aegis surface 😂🖕
BREGUET ATLANTIC???!!! It should rank at least number four: Combat proven and not only above the seas but in Afghanistan, Irak, Africa, as we speak there are Atlantics performing bombing missions using Paveway GBL all the while performing ELINT and command center. None of the aircraft you have mentionned do that.
The P1 was specially manufactured domestically for China, the aircraft was Kawasaki Heavy Industries, the engine was IHI, partner companies Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Fuji Heavy Industries, Japan Aircraft, etc.... The jet engine IHI developed in 1945, Kawasaki Heavy Industries and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. , Is a combination of Fuji Heavy Industries (Zero Fight), this is invincible.
#2 and #3 both were built to replace the 1961 P-3 Orion. Both are substantially better performers than the #1 Orion. It is now used for firefighting.
They put her in number one as a deference due to her age and long service.
The order is challengeable but at least it gives a good picture of what is out there for the MPA mission. I think that CN-235 is behind C-295 MPA by far now. I worked on this program with EADS/CASA the OEM that is now focusing on the C-295 aircraft. One key question is that if you had to acquire MPA capacity which one will you buy?
I have had the chance to fly 3 of them as PIC. CN-35, C-295 and Boeing 737.
You are only the number who is very lucky to fly this tame great bird
Yeah A p-8 is quite different from a 737
You forgot the french MPA Dassaut Atlantique 2. The new version has far more advanced electronics and deserves to be in the top 10.
P-1's radars are AESA radars similar to that fitted on Aegis destroyer and fighter aircraft. Paired with combination of air-air missile or air-ship missile, it has the potential to decimate any surface fleet and hostile aircraft beyond visual range. Not to be underestimated as mere a maritime patrol aircraft.
Where is the French Breguet Atlantic 2 with 8,000 km range ?
I would consider the Atlantic 2 to be in the top 5
Donald Johnson:
Tu-95?
B-52?
The P-3 is superior to all MPAs.
Just because its old, doesn't mean that it is obsolete
Good job The Buzz!
So is the p-8 Poseidon
@@doggovision5817 Nope, the P-8 is bad at maneuvering, target tracking, armament range, it has the acceleration of a 737, and most importantly, it has half the range of the P-3
@@tack9571 If the P-3 is better than the P-8, the US military will not hire it.
@@秀ボー Well, no. The Navy makes some mistakes, and this is one of them.
mr Tack
If my English is weird, please complain to Google.
If the development of the drone goes wrong, or if it is delayed considerably, it may be a military mistake, but if it fits well, the P-8 is a different dimension of patrol control than the P-3. I think it will be an opportunity.
If it's a P-3, I think the Kawasaki P-1 is a better aircraft.
I demand a video on top 10 AEWC aircraft, currently in service.Plz consider my request.
Wah mantap..CN 235 masuk urutan ke 5.
Copy CASA
@@orgkampong emang tau apa malay🤭
And the french Atlantic 2 ??? Is it a toy ? It's one of the best !!!
BREGUET ATLANTIC you are right it is doing the work
Atlantique 2 . Atlantic was for the first version . The last two letters were for "International Cooperation".
P3 better than P8?
Yes it is
No,p3 is getting replaced by p8
@@anonymouswizard5535 The P-3 is better at almost everything. The whole replacement thing is all about looks.
@@tack9571 hmmmm no worry
@@anonymouswizard5535 replacement is a fact of age not quality of performance; if it were possible to have kept the old Canadian Argus flying then they would never have been replaced, just upgraded ;but airframes have limited time
Indian Navy recently bought 12 P 8i Poseidon...
Well it's not p 8i Poseidon, it p 8i Neptune, it's a India specific and upgraded variant of f 8i Poseidon
Downgrade
No it is a upgrade
@@phinexgamer-hg7kv I know ..... it's just not as sophisticated as P8a Poseidon
Japan would have sold a better weapon system. Check your receipt.
Was that the older ATR72 MPA and not the newer 600 model?
Cn 235
Since the P-8 replaces the P-3, how can you say the P-3 is better??
P-8 has sensors and attack abilities the P-3 can only dream about.
Would an Osprey have any advantage as a search and rescue aircraft? It could get to a wreck faster than a helicopter, and then remain stationary as rescue divers worked to save a crew.
Down wash will be too strong
Как-всегда круто! Спасибо за видео! 👍
As always cool! Thank you for the video!
I fall in love your voice.😍😍
Thankyou 😊
@@thebuzz4108 😂
Haha seriously?
Face reveal?
Yea we want face reveal for 100k celebration!
More Military videos on the Buzz : ua-cam.com/video/IhFEql_5Z-c/v-deo.html
赤いラインが入ったP1は試作1号機？
Why there is no tu-142 or il-38?
Why is the older, slower, less heavily armed P3 ranked higher than the P8. Maybe the MAD?
Because of the things the others can't do.....like fly at 30 feet with saltwater splash hitting their intakes.... Amongst it's other strengths in comparison to the other platforms.
Going slow is in the job description of a maritime patrol aircraft.
wow amazing
Jai HIND
Jai Shri RAM
P-3 Orion 1st.?.crazy!!!
How is it crazy? The P-3 is by far the best ASW/MPA that was ever built.
비교하여 보여주는 고마운 채널입니다
The P3 Orion is nearly obsolete and being currently replaced by the P-8 Poseidon, which has the latest avionics and technology installed. The P-1 rivals nearly equal to the P-8, with different tactics designed in mind, which makes it hard to actually compare which is better or not. It uses 4 instead of two engines, which makes it safer to operate in the large bodies of sea without worries of needing to return to base if an engine is malfunctioning, unlike the P-8, which would need to due to the fact it only has two engines. Also, the P-8 is designed for high altitude and speed, while the P-1 is designed for both high and low altitude operations with slower stall speeds, but preferably slower speeds. The technology is also very different, making it harder to compare. One of the benefits of the P-8 is an abundance of spare parts if needed for repairs, due to being designed on a commercial airliner. The P-1 however is built specifically for military use, making spare parts harder to find for repairs.
Obsolete? Are you serious?
The P-3 is superior to the P-8 in what you actually need in an MPA
What is missing here is that some of the aircraft cited although very capable are being phased out and will no longer be procuded by their OEMs.
C295 philippine airforce have many of these all brand new
Love your videos they’re always very informative and accurate thank you
Thankyou
amazing video
Make a comparison on LCH light attack helicopter vs Chinese Z-10 helicopter plsss
The P-3 is old and does not outrank the P-8
Why is P-8 (a more recent platform) rated lower than P-3?
Are the P-8's in service yet?
@@andrewtaylor940 In India, they were inducted in the Navy in 2013 and even took part in the search for the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
Because the P-3 is better. Say what you want about its age, but it's way ahead of its time.
On the other hand the P-8 is slow and it isn't as maneuverable as the P-3
@@tack9571 For a submarine hunter, speed and agility are not as important as sensors.
@@sameerthakur720 The P-3 is upgradable, to the point where it's better than the P-8
Wait and watching
Countries like Pakistan,Bangladesh,Algeria,Australia,Sweden and Hellenic navy need's 15 Casa Cn-235 Mpa
Wheres the CP 140 Aurora? This Canadian plane has a 9000 km range and is basically an Orion with the Vikings avionics. Canada has the longest coastline in the world and this plane has been our workhorse for decades.
She listed as #1 as the Orion.
most have no idea the Aurora is essentially a very different aircraft. Just leave them ignorant
P-3, though the workhorse of the USN, is ancient. Number 1? Mmmm.
This more effective than carriers because response time and capacity can deliver LSRAM up to 200 miles acurate range eliminate all sea threat or land force without being threaten by AA because no AA can get beyond 20 miles
Argus # 1. 🇨🇦
The ATR is French not Italian the hq is located in Toulouse
No exactly. The airframe is French, but in the case of the ATR72 MP, Leoanardo in Italy is the prime and ATR is simply a sub that provides airframes. The airframe is built in France but then converted to the MP configuration in Italy.
Well try to fly an airplane without a frame or wings lol. This is french
yes but nope airframe is built in Italy and wings in France so is from both country btw this is a weapon system, so if the italian Leonardo bought the aircraft and mod it with eletronic system and weapon is an italian one, just like israel AEW&CS is the system applied on different type of airframe from different nations, so... stupid comment for stupid nation pride
fabio tra well you do not understand it is just to be fair for example the Rafale is French because totally made in France but the typhoon is not Italian because only a few parts are made in Italy. Another example a song doesn’t belong to the music writer only, it is the result of a team. So the ATR is the result of a team work
It is both French and Italian.
Grow up, kids.
How is the p-3 orion better than the p-8?
It ain't.
Kawasaki p1 👏👏👏
go top 10 aircraft garriers plaese💪
What about S3 Viking?
Or the Canadian Aurora MP-140am which was originally a combo of the best of the P3 Orion and S2 Viking
Who's kidding who? They just ran out of Ginger Ale.
Cool
Confunde el cometido de las aeronaves, no distingue: Patrullaje marítimo o/y lucha antisubmarina
Olá sou brasileiro, e boa parte dos aviões militares fabricados aqui são da EMBRAER como este referido no vídeo e o A29 super tucano, boa tarde (Aqui no Brasil já é de tarde)
Brazil have banderulha too🇧🇷
I believe the RAF also have Poseidon P3
P8..
Wished to see beriev albatross 😕
Tu 142?
The Tu-142 sucks tho
Price would be nice.
P3 Orion is told , the avionics of that aircraft is pretty old.
Just because it's old doesn't mean that it's worse. It's easy to upgrade the avionics.
why p-8 poseidon is #2 this a latest model compare to p-3 orion
The P-3 is superior, that's why.
I was waiting for the Tu-95RT
The AN-72 it's called Cheburashka by the Russians because their engines and air intake ducts are located near to the fuselage of the aircraft, looking similar to the animated teddy bear. I watched that as a kid :")
Our face reveal is close 😉
Damn you’re right . Shouldn’t have said that . Lol
@@thebuzz4108 By the way, good video!
Thankyou . And for the enlightenment too
@@thebuzz4108 You´re welcome, and thanks for the reply. I´m always on your side
ATR is also french
no is italian/french joint venture
You see with the aircrafts and all the machines buzzing hums it's not so bad to know avg for a type stat operational flown or worked charts by hours daily or yearly. With the flying cylinders, sausages and or cigars as well as with all UFO and aircrafts those parametres depend crucially on the engines, fuel types, territories, environment, and the companies of men and women they are being operated in and by. What concerns com, fuel and currencies consumption characteristics you might have been supposedly fully updated on the matter already. Com as you may probably know is an army word for commerce in some english like speaking vocabularies.
Where is the ATL2 ?
BREGUET ATLANTIC 2
Is the OR rye un
Russia and China have no sea patrol airplanes?
¿Why N°10 is ranked so low when it actually has better platform paramaters than some above? 🧐👎🏼
where is the TU-142M & IL-38N Russia ??
Embraer 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Where is albatross
Aji iman ratikoi je upload korila . USA t etia 3.56 pm moi jot thako.
Hahaha. Upai nai moi etia quarantine kori asu, travel korisilu he karne
@@thebuzz4108 hope tumi vale asa. Eikedin gharat thaka bahirot furi nethakiba. Lockdown dibo buli huniso
@@thebuzz4108 Are u an Assamese youtuber??? Tumi Axomiya niki
No I’m not an assamese youtuber I’m from shillong Meghalaya your neighbor
Thanks for the clarification. I have subscribed to your channel. I have one more doubt btw. Is the voice in your videos ur own @The Buzz
SAAB Swordfish MPA 👍🏻
Indonesia...
Weh nongol lu vang
Spain and indonesia CN 235 MPA
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BTW Orion = Oh-Rye-On not O-reee-on
Only for the English speakers, the rest of the world goes by oreon.
Indonesian CN 👍🏻🇮🇩
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順位 1～3には異論がある。旧機種の「p－３ｃ」が上位な訳がない。
Ил-38 N2 , Ту-142 N1
Андрей Остроушко мечтатель ты одноко 😂
No, P-3
There's no way the P-3 is better than the P-8 that's replacing it.
the P-3 is better.
@@tack9571 In what way? The P-8 gets on station faster, has more time on station, is much more comfortable for the crew, has aerial refueling, has a much better radar, doesn't need as many crew, and is much more upgradable.
@@pahtar7189 The P-3 is a proven design, it can perform evasive maneuvers fast, some variants have aerial refueling, strong airframe, superior handling (it's easier to fly)
more customizable, it can also be used as
an air tanker, a land surveillance aircraft, AWACS aircraft and many more. It can also carry various different weapons like air to surface missiles, some have air to air missiles (idk why) and it can be fitted with modernized RADAR systems that are superior to the P-8, oh and it also has over twice the range (which is really important)
Lol the replies to this comment seem to be from individuals who have never flown in any of these aircraft yet are extremely convinced they are right. At least the American version of the p-8 blows the American version of the P-3 out of the water in nearly every way.
@@tack9571 Where you get the range number? Because the wiki, which draws from the official unclassified numbers shows the p-8 to have a slightly higher combat range.
The winner is CN-235 INDONESIA cause Worth it to buy...
I visited BANDUNG in 1989, and have been the program director for the Avionics of the C-295/CN-235
ATR is French not Italian
It is a French Italian joint venture, 50/50.
@@jetaddicted I know. But it is based in France. It is a company incorporated under French law. So the nationality is French.
P1＞P >>p3
None of the An aircraft (inc An74) are Ukrainian. They are soviet and were just assembled in Kharkov. Ukraine is not able to produce any air-craft as most parts are produced in Russia
Russia need to take antonov plant to russia because ukraine already a fail state
Kawasaki P-1 is the best
CN 235
Too much mixed measurement systems to portray same data set information, in particular power of engines.
Are you sure P-3 Orion is number one?????
sunilmotwani krishna
why Russia and china not on the list? they not interest?
Ha... P-3 still #1. There will be no match to the mighty Orion!
Yep!
Ha ha
Wow the japanese one was built by IHI jet engine, its local made in japan jet engine. I expect it built by GE or WP usa
Tupolev 142? Ma che classifiche fate?
HAHAHAHAHAHA indonesian CN 235 was bulid in 1800 go indONEsia go BJ.habibie but i have to admit Tupolevs are nice
Kasih tau ngab kalo ada overproud
បាញយូនប្រហើយ
The P8 poseidon is objectively NOT better than the P1, it's an inferior maritime patrol craft, simple.
Having 4 engines causing more disruption with sensors for detection from what UK trial found out thus UK went with more expensive P8. P1 also made an error with claim that S Korean destroyers used targeting radar on them when they were using detection radar to rescue N Korean fisherman.
US replaced P3 with P8 and here its shown that P3 is better.... How??
because the P-3 is better
indonesian CN 235 MPA is better because it can compete and its really cheap and doesnt need a lot of maintenance and even though CN 235 was bulid in the 1800 it still can compete with a little upgrade that dont costs that much plus now the countries who manufactured it is alot ,and its 100% created in indonesia and 50 50 for who made it
@@rabbaniazzahra1784 The CN 235 is very limited and can't carry out nearly as many tasks as the P-8A let alone the P-3B/C.
@@rabbaniazzahra1784 hahaha funny 😂 🖕 cn 235 is lost of load capacity and not a multirole maritime its from the sea compare to p-3 and p-8 from us its anti submarin and from land and aegis surface 😂🖕
P-3 Orion sud be below top 5. It's an old aircraft
Maybe so but still the safest airframe of them all.
P-8 is equally safe and a newer design.
@@sameerthakur720 But the P-3 is still better
@@tack9571 You love the p-3 ...enough to comment 20times.
@@garwhittaker3743 Nah, I just didn't have anything better to do
HESA Simorgh 🇮🇷
Pakistan detect many indian submarine with P-3C aircraft
BREGUET ATLANTIC???!!!
It should rank at least number four:
Combat proven and not only above the seas but in Afghanistan, Irak, Africa, as we speak there are Atlantics performing bombing missions using Paveway GBL all the while performing ELINT and command center.
None of the aircraft you have mentionned do that.
Where is MH 370
The P1 was specially manufactured domestically for China, the aircraft was Kawasaki Heavy Industries, the engine was IHI, partner companies Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Fuji Heavy Industries, Japan Aircraft, etc.... The jet engine IHI developed in 1945, Kawasaki Heavy Industries and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. , Is a combination of Fuji Heavy Industries (Zero Fight), this is invincible.
Indonesia , salam untuk dunia !
Waleycom Salam. I visited BANDUNG in 1989
WTF? No one Chinese or Russian Aircraft. Why?
Because all of those suck
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