And then they made suki your average thirsty anime girl. Like wtf the whole thing that made suki cool was that she was cool! She wasn’t creeping on dudes with their shirt off
@@coltonstewart8698tf are on about? Iirc, the very first thing that Aang said in the Netflix trailer is that he doesn’t want the responsibility of being the Avatar
It’s even worse then that, the whole reason aang was frozen in ice for 100 years is because he was immature and ran away from the responsibility of being the avatar.
Sokka was a teenage boy from a rural village with NO OTHER MEN because they were all busy fighting the fire nation. He was forced to "be the Man" of the village from a young age and combine that with the fact that he had no positive role models of masculinity around (because they were all busy fighting the aforementioned war) with the stress of being responsible for his village formed a teenage bs "I'm in charge, Men do this, Women do that" mentality. The only girl in the village close to his age was his little sister! Other that that, it's old people and toddlers. Once he got out into the real world he was humbled VERY quickly. And he took it well, our boy is not malicious, he's just a dofus. You can't have character's learn life lessons if they are perfect from day 1.
There’s also the fact the the water tribes are fairly rigid in their gender roles, it’s more obvious in the northern tribe because they actually have men around but it’s true for both north and south.
@@Crystalthewolf1000 Much Less true for the south as far as I can tell, after all, there were Male and Female warriors (before the fire nation killed everybody) and the bending practices were equal opportunity. Katara's Grandma fled the North's misogynistic bs to go to the South, I doubt she would have stayed if it was too similar. She could have just kept going to somewhere else if it was too bad. It's hard to get a real gauge because the population is just so depleted but all signs point towards it being much more respectful. There's also a big difference between choosing to inhabit traditional gender roles VS having anything else be FORBIDDEN, HOW DARE YOU! Which is probably another big difference between North and South.
or tough isn't blind, her parents just treat her like she is super fragile for "rich people reasons" and she is now completely socially normal an din no way disagrees, except with sokka.
@@jake6056 he could use all four elements but he was only good with air he was mediocre to bad with the rest but he still was able to harness them without the avatar state active
god ikr? between this sorta thing and disney live action remakes.. bro just pay the writers for once, get a new idea. (not like Disney or Netflix or most companies can bother paying writers, artists, animators etc rn, but that's another convo) I can't wait till they very eventually run out of stuff to remake and are _forced_ to have some original thoughts lmao
@@allenstanley3418 I don't get what you mean ? regardless, there's a massive difference between "politically correct" (dude it's not like he's calling ppl slurs lmao what do you mean) and some random Netflix execs getting too lazy to actually write a character arc properly
When you are so disconnected from reality you forget suka was just telling the truth Men are better at fighting… tf is going on with the world Where are all the women fighting in Ukraine ?
Did you watch any of the released trailers, and/or released clips? I doubt you did, because if you took the time to do so, and not just base your opinion on hearsay, you’d find that Aang isn’t too serious…but the normal goofy and powerful 112 year old kid he always was.
@@victorychukwuka6673 imagine coming to the assumption of what a whole show's gonna be based on a few clips in a trailer... Plus it was announced that Aang would be more serious.
"The character development is offensive and the personalities attract the wrong audience and it's DEFINITELY not the general tone of the show that actually does that, so we're just gonna remove it ☝️🤓"
When you are so disconnected from reality you forget suka was just telling the truth Men are better at fighting… tf is going on with the world Where are all the women fighting in Ukraine ?
Making toph blind would be ableist and her struggle to become a master because she was a rich girl is sexist. So now is a 6'5 muscle bound dude with super eyes and screams to see better called the Boulder
When the creators left the live action show because of the direction Netflix was going, that was the moment I gave up any hope that this show would be good.
damn yeah, the only time I've ever enjoyed anything live action has been on the rare occasion where the original creator(s) were a big part of the process every step of the way. generally tho, unless it's transformative, any live action "remake" or "adaptation" is a waste of time imo, but that's mainly because I'm a massive animation nerd lmao
It's the exact reason the Halo show is getting a second season. Everyone heard how bad it was and watched either out of morbid curiosity or hate. So Warner Bros thinks "Oh we made so much money on this! Make more!"
@ErutaniaRose unfortunately, from some people I've talked to, they just see Master Paku as a minor villain, so they literally don't care, because as a (supposed) villain, he is EXPECTED to learn a lesson and "be better". Of course they with this are missing the point of HIS story, where he is bitter about Katara's and Sokka's Gran-Gran running off on him. And Katara learns that emotions won't win you the day, and she has to be smart about the fights she picks, AS NOT EVERYONE IS A VILLAIN for her to pick fights with, some people are just hurt and lashing out because of that.
@@Tyler_T1D the movie is not really good, only maybe if you separate it from the original and see it as something completely different. But I was talking about the new la series though. It's also not good at all. Maybe they shouldn't try to remake or replace masterpieces. The original doesn't need a new version
@@luiiiandmovieee for real, the new harold and the purple crayon movie looks like crap next to the book but I could be biased because those books were my childhood but like why have a grown man play a little kid?
I don't know why we even needed the live action adaptation in the first place. The cartoon series is good, it's so good that it's still all over the media to this day as one of the best tv shows. I would have been fine waiting a few years to get the next cartoon series with them as adults, and I say a few years because currently Jack, who plays Sokka, is currently working on the dragon prince which is another really great Cartoon series from one of the writers that worked on ATLA. As for the other voice actors I would assume they would all be down to return to their roles given that their schedules align.
"About characters with realistic flaws and their development during the story... Who am I kidding, we don't like characters with realistic flaws and character development so we'll just take away these things because characters without flaws and zero character development are what people want" You could describe it like this
The heroes journey is the most reductive crap ever. Also the guy who wrote it was kind of a piece of shit. The ideas in the heroes story are completely dated. To the point where the only reason it is still used is because people want to deconstruct it or even worse subvert it at the very end. Or midpoint. So many people are writing scripts based off of this because of things circling around Disney. There was a paper circling around Disney basically telling you to write that way and telling you how to twist the Heroes journey but because everyone’s doing it it is too noticeable. And it is not novel certainly not as novel as when Star Wars did it.
@@P1TheAliennah, he literally watch the show. Aang never been serious when he was announced as the next Avatar, he's just a kid that wanted to have fun, that's why become avatar becomes a burden to him and he decided to run away and froze for almost 100 years. If they decide Aang to be more serious then why did he needs to run away 100 years ago?
"We wanted a serious tone" like having a main character find out his people were slaughtered, or a character get permanently scarred and banished by their father, or the characters whose mother was murdered in cold blood, or multiple episodes about the destruction caused by the war.
I disagree. I think there is plenty of space to make AtlA more serious while maintaining the core of the Story and character (development). Just the fact alone that the war takes actual lives was very underplayed in the original, and would be a great if not _essential_ point to (re)visit in this live action. But yes, taking away the childlike behaviour of characters who are meant to be actual children is not a very good Plan for this IP.
@@Udontknowmi Bruh, have you not witnessed the absolute onslaught of absolutely horrid "New takes on old material?" Its pretty fair to assume its a long shot this is going to be any good.
The entertainment industry should learn that having flaws is what makes characters relatable and that the characters overcoming said flaws is what makes them interesting
The problem is, people are confusing sexism, with Sokka just being a sheltered cocky kid who needed a reality check. We can have Sokka go through character development without reliving the 00s Girl Power era, yeah?
@@DWargs I mean it was intended as sexism in the form of enforced gender-norms, however he was also a sheltered cocky kid who needed a reality check. The message has always been good, however this was one of the few series which executed said message perfectly as well in my opinion. Avatar the Last Airbender created strong independent female characters, but in a fashion where they neither undermine men, nor were overexaggerated Well except maybe Toph being overexaggerated, however that was for a very specific purpose as it's a front she creates for herself to break away from her parent's control, not men, and even then she shows her more vulnerable side multiple times throughout the show, when she's shown to have failed or otherwise been in the wrong
Flaws, what are those? Those are only for the real main character. Side characters must always be perfect because why would you want to relate to a non-main character? 😂
@@matheussandbakk9959 I disagree with you. I feel like the way people have reacted to Sokka's arc have proven that it wasn't well handled. To dismiss this as "sexism" is radically oversimplifying and reductive, and does a disservice to the character and the arc he went through. Sokka complaining that he lost to a bunch of girls is only the surface level. There's a lot underneath there that a 23 minute episode meant for kids that couldn't adequately unpack and explore. His pride as a warrior, and the duty he felt as a protector of his sister and Aang and his village back home, his shame in not being strong enough to protect them and failing to realize they were getting ambushed. Not to mention, the culture shock of running into a society that is completely different from the one he's always known. I think moving away from the sexism angle isn't removing his flaws at all, but rather, it might be able to allow us to dig deeper into his character and his arc as a warrior in a way that the original show didn't adequately plan and map out. Also, I feel like applying modern Western terms to an isolated tribe fighting for survival at the edge of the world is a bit disingenuous and unfair, but maybe that's just me.
they’re just taking all the substance out of it to make it “mature” like the animated show didn’t touch subjects like genocide racism and government corruption
@@julie-18bro I have a feeling that Netflix at this point wants to promote racism, sexism and government corruption from how much it’s trying to hide those things from existing thus making it more common since it won’t be corrected
Almost every single studio/streaming service that makes live-action adaptations needs to follow the mentality of “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.” Seriously, it works.
The issue is that they see it as broken based on our modern climate. Things like sexism being a lot more problematic so that’s “broken” Aang being an actual child with important responsibilities forced on him could be seen as problematic, if he displayed more childlike behavior. So most likely they are going to try to make him less childlike to deflect away from it.
Or just needs to not make live action versions of stories that were told perfectly through animation and just think of something else to make if they want to make something live action
Time to put their "message" and twists on some successful IP. I swear to god its actually impressive how netflix consistently finds these type of people that actively wants to change something that already works
@@epicgodminecraft73Yeah, Halo Season 1 really seems like a sci-fi show that wanted to do its own thing but also wanted to be attached to a famous IP. Have their cake and eat it too sort of situation. Hopefully with Halo Season 2 actually focusing on a plot point important to the original story (Reach) they might make something good, idk.
@@donnyyario1726 Show don't tell is a lie invented by the movie industry. It is sometimes okay for character to verbalize emotions. With that said, I wholeheartedly agree, I knew I was missing something from this show :D
@@arnerademacker key word "sometimes." The only thing every character does is tell. The only thing that comes out of their mouths is exposition. Show don't tell is a good thing, and is severely lacking in the live action. A good example of balance between exposition and show not tell is ironically the original animation.
I was with you till you said the people who follow this show are already in their late 20s to early 30s... then my rice crispy knees took offense to that.
This is what happens when you don’t protect your work. Oda was very strict with one piece netflix and wouldn’t even agree with netflix unless he felt the director was a fan or atleast understood the material and even demanded no romance. I think the avatar creators just saw money and they thought it would be great but failed to realize if you give Netflix full control they will ruin any franchise
There are articles saying the original ones left bc THEY wanted to change more. Im not exactly excited for this, but im gonna reserve judgement til i watch the first few episodes
@@serenteaudios1737 well the main reason they actually left is because with the success of paramount, I believe they are starting their own studio for a bunch of different spin-off series and maybe even a new installment. And there is a significant difference between the creators wanting to make some changes within their creation. That's still a line with the characters and the core concept and a studio. Just making blanket changes disregarding the characters and core concepts
Idk about Michael but I know Bryan is a super liberal. I didn’t have high hopes from the beginning for this because if anything I thought he would encourage the Netflixification of the series.
Also, Aang being adventurous throughout most of the show opens up the world to the audience. It also makes it feels like the world moves regardless of the Gangs presence in those locations; which they do.
Very well put. That was one of the best parts of the show. It feels like there's an entire world going on regardless of where the characters go, and they are experiencing it along with us. I couldn't put that feeling into words until I read your comment
On top of that his adventurous spirit is half the reason they don’t get caught. Because Aang wants to explore and see cool things his movements have little rhyme or reason which made him next to impossible to track
@@nvapisces7011 He does actually. When he enters the Avatar state (yes it's Kyoshi, but they're the same person) and when he embodies the Ocean Spirit (as a Kaiju). I'd chock it down mainly to budget. Water VFX is pretty expensive.
@@nvapisces7011 They honestly should have made an adaptation of Legend of Korra. That's the more serious Avatar they could have used. ATLA Liv action feels stale
"we're going to give him a visions that's basically like something really bad is going to happen if you don't go to the Northern Water Tribe." Weird you felt you needed to invent a reason to go to the North when originally Aang is set to go so he and Katara can master water bending... So he can become a serious Avatar??? Like he was determined from the beginning he just wanted to make fun road trip stops on the way!
Omg so true like isn't mastering all elements just ad important or not even more like bruh 😭😭 and one thing thay resply bugged me was how qatara Just magically gets better at waterbending like literally in less than a day girly goes from I need a waterbending teacher to I am my own master and I magically became a pro at this 💀
Its like sokka grew up In a small water tribe village and when he eventually went out in the world with his ideals he was immediately knocked on his butt
A big thing about Aang goofing off is that it is basically him running away from his responsabilities, but it always ends with the gang meeting people whose lives were affected by the fire nation in some way, regardless of where they are, this works to show how inescapable the fire nation's threat is to the world, which is a HUGE part of Aang's development into accepting his responsabilities as avatar
It's not just that either. Air nomads are literally the element of fun, as stated by Iroh. Aang quite literally brought joy to the world, not just because he's a kid, but because he's an air nomad. They're known for pulling pranks, living in harmony with nature, and having a good sense of humor. To make Aang more serious and less fun is to take away from the air nomad culture.
@@davidtran9455mans was not the depressed he was just trying to teach aang the severeness of what is going on in the world which he also did in the cartoon 😭😭
@@sancholoaded2388 ...no he didn't? His lesson was to think outside of the box, and that no matter how much pressure he faces he should "always think like a mad genius". Literally the lesson verbatim, its the opposite to the new show.
@@sancholoaded2388ya know, I just binged watched it alone that’s not what happened. His lessons was for Aang to be creative and to think outside of the box like a mad genius. It had nothing to do with the seriousness of the world lol
Exactly! Sokka's arc has deeper messages about positive and negative male influences and how war affects how children are raised, Sokka's inital sexism was really tied up with feeling he needed to play the role of protector while all the men in the Southern Water Tribe were away fighting...not to mention losing his mother and how that probably also made it easier for him to develop sexist opinions.
The reason Katara found Aang in that ice berg is because she was angry at sokka for being sexist towards her. If sokka wasn’t sexist aang would still be frozen for another 1000 years and there wouldn’t be a last air bender series to begin with 😂
You think they would've learned after the failed attempt at a movie... Hard to make ATLA look realistic in a live action, earth benders would be turning people into ground beef if they had a boulder hurled at them so most of the physics is going to be looking goofy unless they're stuck hurdling pebbles, same with firebending. Waterbending and airbending might look okay without being too overpowered but if you tried applying actual physics to earthbending it'd be broken af...
It's almost like story telling can be done across multiple mediums and some are better for certain stories than others for those same stories....shhhh..... don't tell anyone.
Nahhh... No. No. No. Anything else I can accept. They can make Katara a lesbian feminist if that's what they want. But don't ruin Iroh. He is the best character in the show
And she no longer has tremor-sense, but uses sound to see like Daredevil. "AAAAAAAAAAH. There, now I have gotten a good look at you." (That's from the hilariously awful play in the Ember Island Theater that was a fire nation understanding of their adventures in the last season of ATLA aka ep57)
M knight thought he was going to “fix” it too… and we all know how that went… why are we trying so hard to revive a bow tied ending of a show like ATLA anyways? I get it’d be cool to see it in live action with 95% green screen and cgi… instead of enjoying the time and effort and YEARS that went into animating, writing, scripting, choreographing, editing, etc that went into the original show… I’m sure this will likely be a 2/5 show at worst but a 3/5 at best
(1) avatar, although enjoyable, is far from perfect. (2) they're not trying to fix anything. They are simply adapting the story to live action with 1 hour episodes, which means maturing it a little bit. You can't have 20 minute standalone montages per episodem that wouldn't make sense.
@@Udontknowmiwell if "that" is their reason for trying to change certain aspects of the show, they should've told the audience. Not riding on this fake wokeness just to attract certain audience. Their very reason of changing aspects of the show is a disrespect to the original.
@@Udontknowmi Your point would be good if the original show didn't blend serious dialogue with breaks of levity masterfully. Longer episodes don't mean a better series, it just means the show is adapting more content into single episodes for an overall lesser number of episodes. Humor and serious dialogue are not mutually exclusive, and changing a story that is born of both concepts to only be one, diminishes the quality of that story.
Like they 'fixed' the Witcher. Oml. They hire complete hacks that have no respect or understanding of what made the original IPs work. What's that? "if they don't change anything then what's the point of a remake"? EXACTLY! These live action 'reimaginings' are pointless af selling nostalgia to depressed millenials. As a depressed millenial this makes me sad.
It's like all the writers forgot how important complexity and bad character traits are. Zuko isn't our favorite because he got a new hairstyle and is a brooding bad boy, he's our favorite because of how much we saw him grow and change to be more compassionate.
Same with Sokka and Aang. They started off as immature children and ended as kids matured beyond their years while still withholding some of that childish charm (look at how Sokka acted in the Ember Island Tales episode).
Don't worry, all the male characters will have plenty of Patriarchal flaws, they just won't grow at all as they are men and incapable of it. The women won't grow either, but that's because they are already perfect from birth. This is Netflix!
Yeah, and they totally removed one of Zuko's important turning points--attempting to save General Zhao (who'd just tried to murder him) from the ocean spirit! And had Iroh kill him instead! So so lame
no one's gonna talk about bumi's character? I mean the open minded fun bumi who taught Aang to think outside the box? bumi was just portrayed as a grumpy old king
@@dhaoracledid you miss the part were that’s not who Bumi is. It’s like changing Obi wan in a new story and making him bitter and hateful towards Luke because of what Anakin did and the awful things Obiwan went through
Let's talk about azula 😂 the way they wrote her insecure af from the very start threw me off. She was supposed to be menacing and being a threat. But nah they decided to show how desperate she is for her father's approval 😔
@@LS-jv9hp i just remember that the VA of azula said when asked "if azula went with zuko in a life changing adventure what that would be" and she said "i would get pregnant"
@@loft777oh my law!😂 Azula chasing Zuko around as a crazy Yandere would certainly be a more interesting change than what Netflix is doing. I mean if they had to change it at all.
@@NovaaTheGreatShow hasn't even come out yet and people are already upset how is this possible? Also where is everyone getting this info im so out of the loop
I love how they claim he wants to focus on becoming the Avatar yet he did not bend a single drop of water by himself in season 1 when is live action gonna get it right that Water was the easiest element for him to Master other than his native element
So Zuko hasn’t developed whatsoever? “Kill avatar” start of season to “respect avatar” by the end of it. You’re ignorant and just want to hate because others are doing it. You’re less original than the live action avatar show.
@@sarahlarock9885 if you think the avatar characters are the same as they were from start to finish with zero development then you didn’t watch the show. You’re just another annoying “fan” that hates everything because you’re a jerkoff that’s bored with life
@@kpbear13It 100% was needed. All the warriors of his tribe left, leaving him as the only guy in the tribe. So he learned he had to be the toughest and baddest of the village. Suki teaches him to not be sexist and to accept that others can protect themselves. Netflix can suck it.
One of the biggest complaints about the live action movie was that aang was too serious. Sad to see Netflix commiting to the same mistake. Sure, he has his serious moments, but his initial goofy personality helps to create contrast and show his struggle to make difficult choices when he has to
@madridistasejati5358 almost the entire cast are fans of the animation even throw shade at the movie during interviews Watch their behind the scenes snippets and you'll know they're 100% not going for what the movie did
I just rewatched Avatar as an adult. Trust me when I say they don’t need to make the story more ‘mature.’ Like all good children’s stories, it is more than sufficiently captivating for an adult audience.
I think they just needed to make it less naive. A 100 year war can be shown for the horror that it is in a live action. That doesn't mean they had to never have anything silly happen.
@@PainMonkey Had me tearing up multiple times, and I remembered some really important lessons that I'd lost sight of somewhere along the way. It really is exceptional.
@@rocknroll1973they're taking a property that is well loved, and changing it _away_ from what people loved. Worse, they're doing so in a way that destroys character arcs, so it isn't even likely to offer good storytelling to people who aren't already familiar with the story they're butchering
Fun fact, the reason aang is frozen in an iceberg is because he ran from responsibilities because he wanted to go on adventures. So if he were to be serious from the beginning, he would have never been frozen in the first place
@@UdontknowmiYou act like a payed shill. This is history repeating itself for the umpteenth time. 1: Beloved and well respected original IP releases with striking success. 2: Someone representing what is a debatably higher level of art takes said IP looking to spread its audience and smears it into the ground because they destroyed and removed everything that’s fundamental to the original story. It’s BS. Stop defending abhorrent trash.
taking other people's work and exploiting it has been the MO of rich old executives since capitalism became a thing lol. it's not even surprising at this point just an irritating reminder that even art has become a product to sell and nothing more
@@rovic3arceno429 😂You really had there 🤣 Given the other things people were saying I thought there could be some truth there 🤣I do still have doubts about watching more of it though- having them show the Earth Kingdom spy get brutally murdered on screen in the first five minutes, plus dedicating a huge chunk of time to seeing all the Air Nomads get mercilessly slaughtered and burned to death did not exactly do it for me 😬(And they gave it a PG rating! 😵💫) Between that and all the other feedback, I'm not sure if I'm gonna really like it. I'm currently rewatching the original because I had to wash the bad taste of that first episode out of my mouth 🤣
Nah, Ember island was fun until the Finale. This will be bad since the start if it is the way its going, hell, the Creators dropped out of the production
Lol great reference, I was thinking the same thing myself lol, the only difference is that Netflix will put zukos scar on the back of his head, under his hair. Azula will never lighting bend, Toph will be deaf, and aang will literally start the show as a 112 year old man
There’s nothing wrong with a sexist/racist character. The problem is if the show rewards the character for their sexism/racism and/or if it is never addressed in the story
We live in a society where rather than identifying, admitting there's a problem then working to fix that problem, we'd rather pretend it doesn't exist.
It's even fine to reward the character. After all, real life does frequently. What matters is the message you send, which, coincidentally, happens to be literally the strongest part of Avatar...
FACTS. sometimes it's important to show such characters because they reflect reality but then show growth or put them in their place to set an example of what should be ideal and acceptable in society
Not only nothing wrong, I find it inherently good to tell socially-challenging stories. Discomfort is not a bad thing. Sometimes others have uncomfortable morals and ideas, sometimes it's uncomfortable to hold a mirror to your own biases. Yet, learning how to navigate it, both on a personal and interpersonal level, is essential to... just being a person around other people. We've just learned to rely on avoidance.
This just also completely ignores the reason why Sokka thought this way at the beginning: war separated his family and the men of the southern water tribe leaving him as the final and only line of defence and possible main hunter of the southern tribe. He had a ton of responsibility chucked onto him as a kid that manifested in unhealthy ways through stress. You can see this happen again when they meet up with Suki the second time on the serpents pass with Sokka becoming super overprotective from the stress of loosing princess Yue. There’s no malice behind his sexism just some teenage bravado and a diet that consists of 95% stress On top of that his adventurous spirit is half the reason they don’t get caught. Because Aang wants to explore and see cool things his movements have little rhyme or reason which made him next to impossible to track
Bingo, Sokka being the only male figure is what creates his sexism through naivete It is remedied by a hearty opening of his mind by the Kioshi Warriors. That last bit about Aang's unpredictability is the pinnacle of accurate, that's why Zuko and Aang clash more often than any other people hunting him, because Aang either gets into some drama and creates an unintended scuffle, drawing Zuko, or Zuko figures out a pattern or meets plot convenience to be there. If he wanted to go straight to becoming the avatar, Zuko would NOT catch up ever and Azula would have to be unleashed by literally episode 6
I will correct that it wasn’t JUST Sokka being left to protect the village as the only man left to defend their home. That absolutely reinforced things, of course, but as we see when they visit the Northern Water Tribe and Katara’s struggle to be seen as worthy pupil, there’s some enforced gender roles and bias from their culture as well.
Exactly. It's misguided overcompensation due to a lack of healthy male role models and due to insecurity about disability to fulfill the huge responsibilities foisted upon him ar such a young age. Anyone who sees Sokka and his general attitude toward anyone akd considers it malicious don't have enough media literacy to adapt a show like this.
My absolute favorite part of season one is when Iroh says the avatar is impossible to track, then it cuts to the Gaang and Sokka’s asking Aang if he’s sure he knows where they’re going. 😂 Aang wants to ride the elephant koi, but he doesn’t remember where they’re at. Plus, his lesson with Bumi is all about having fun and thinking outside the box.
@@1hmgirlthank you for sharing this! Also all these posts are random news sights trying to get clicks by taking things out of context and deeming theories as facts. The new Netflix clip describes aang as a fun loving kid who has responsibilities he doesn’t want. THAT IS AANG! #waitbeforehate
Bruh that is like 99.99% of Zuko’s character in the early part of the series and what makes him feel real. We men all chase the approval of others especially those of our male role models. For Zuko that was his dad, even though he banished him and gave him that scar on his eye. Part of his growth was realizing that his dad wasn’t a good man through the help of his Uncle Iroh. How the fuck do you want to change something as beautiful as that? It is perfectly in line with progressive agenda Zuko’s dad was toxic masculinity walking around, conquering places and imposing his will while Iroh is an example of positive masculinity a man who doesn’t seek to conquer but rather learn from others and understand their way of life evidenced by him learning how to channel lightning from something water benders do and his peaceful way of life, love for tea, him even chilling out and opening a tea shop in the earth nation. If you change Zuko’s quest for acceptance you discard the need for uncle Iroh which just sucks because he is such a great character
There are only two correct ways to make adaptations. Either you take the exact same characters and don't fuck up the original story. Like The Last Of Us did. Or you take the general idea of the original, and make a new story with new characters. Like Fallout did.
Which category does Arcane fall into? I feel like neither. Closer to category 1 because it's not an entirely new story, but it's basically filling in the gaps in a big way (creating a whole story from tiny breadcrumbs).
@@Onaterdem Riot was heavily involved in making sure it lined up with the lore they had released in game. So it would be like making a show based on lore like the dead space movies did using the logs and environmental story telling from the game to expand the background lore.
The Last of Us and Arcane both did important changes that make the story different But they kept the same tone as the original and told a story that made sense.
Lets not forget Katara was refused to be taught water bending by the water tribe until she physically proved herself and her lineage was found out. It took her being the granddaughter to the love of his life after the fact if the fight for him to agree to teach her warrior skills! Katara ends up continuing to teach the avatar to waterbend. There are blatant resergence of character issues that also have to be resolved through the story line which also includes Kataras over bearingness because she lost her mom from a tender age, so she felt the need to take on that role while Sokka had to be the 'man of the house' there is so much push and pull until they figure it out and find balance. Even with Toph she deals with ableism ssince she is blind. Are we just going to ignore that fact? The amazing thing about this show is that the characters are complex and they go through various archs that brings out the positives as well as negatives of those characters changes bringing us character progress as well as character regression (Zuko). Overall they did the one thing they shouldn't have and that is turn a light hearted show with serious tones into a dark series with some light hearted moments.
The only thing Toph cant do is read or write with the occasional not being able to see mid air stuff (sometimes). Its not like she has a walking stick or cant fight. She was the strongest earthbender besides Bumi
@@zerenityzerene4410he was improving a lot (like in zuko alone), but then in the finale of season two, he still joined forces with Azula, which can be seen as a character regression, because in the literal same episode he was happy living with iroh in the tea shop, and he was connecting a lot with katara.
@@cloudyskyz2237and that's something very human, happens when your ego is still too high and there happens something that makes you do what you already know is wrong in the name of what you wanted to achieve before, all because of that pride
This is what happens when you give too much writing power to moral grandstanders who don't actually pay attention nor care about the IP they're adapting. Its funny because Sokka's original plotline was literally in line with their ideologies, they were just too arrogant and ignorant to realize it
@@Itoyokofan Water. Earth. Fire. Air. My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, how the four nations once lived in harmony. How everything changed once the Gender Nation attacked. Only the Avatar mastered all four elements. Only he could stop the ruthless gender benders. But when the world needed him most, he started to doubt his own gender.
@@MarvelousMi Aang was also 12 years old when he ran away from being the Avatar. If what you say is true, then because personalities are permanent at that age, Aang is still running away from being the Avatar... Don't go making things up, to sound smart.
The cartoon: Let the characters have a flaw that they will later overcome to become a better person and teach the audience a lesson. Netflix:everyone perfect
@@AngryAlfonse Genocide is too disturbing and dark, so the fire nation became friends with the air nation instead. No more enemies. Yay! Happy ever after!
What pisses me off the most - my parents will watch the Live Action adaptation, complain about some things that the Cartoon got right, and then refuse to watch the Cartoon because "it's animated" -_-
Your parents are dumb dawg ngl. Animation is meant for all people used to do animation for adults and then it became for kids and every group of people
Yeah I have friends who decided to watch the live action, but won’t watch the cartoon because it’s “Anime” i mean it has some tropes and inspiration but it is by far NOT an anime
@@pixalmasterstudios2485 people hate anime because of community and they are wrong, some people are degenerates but that doesn't mean everyone is like this.
@@losthunt9061 oh I get that! I know some very normal people who like Anime. I’ve even watched some anime every now and again. I don’t discriminate a series just because it “looks anime” I only care about story and characters
My sisters did this exact same thing. But they think the live-action adaptation is better than the original despite never having watched the original animated TV show.
Sokka is also a teen who doesn't understand girls, and didn't grow up with other girls his age who weren't his sister. ALSO a high number of the people in the southern water tribe are women, the warriors left to fight the fire nation. Sokka didn't have a good male role model growing up. So when he meets Suki, he meets a strong independent woman who actually likes him, not because he's a jerk, but because he learned from his mistakes. He showed that even though he's wrong, he can be open minded and learn to be a better person. Which is a very important lesson for kids, the ones who watch nickelodeon, that you can be wrong, and own that, grow and still be liked even when you made mistakes.
Bros just straight up not even sexist for his culture. Why was he raised by women? Because all the dudes went to war. Thats THEIR culture. And his tribe is the progressive one lmfao. Kataras whole arc about overcoming the sexist traditions of the southern water tribe to learn waterbending cut next?
Not having Sokka be humbled by the Kiyoshi warriors is criminally tone-deaf.
cause then they just...start to like each other? This also takes away the stuff he learns from her
Imagine if katara won vs master paku just because she is a woman
@@adriankorozan8334don’t speak this into existence
@@adriankorozan8334 shhhhhh you'll give them ideas
And then they made suki your average thirsty anime girl. Like wtf the whole thing that made suki cool was that she was cool! She wasn’t creeping on dudes with their shirt off
Aang not wanting to be the avatar is literally the reason the whole story started
Stop taking quotes out of context. You haven't even seen the show.
@@Udontknowmihave you ever watched the actual show?
@@Udontknowmi If they are saying that Sokka won't act sexist and Aang is serious about becoming the avatar, then there is no more context needed.
@@coltonstewart8698 That's not even what they actually said. LMAO.
@@coltonstewart8698tf are on about? Iirc, the very first thing that Aang said in the Netflix trailer is that he doesn’t want the responsibility of being the Avatar
It’s even worse then that, the whole reason aang was frozen in ice for 100 years is because he was immature and ran away from the responsibility of being the avatar.
Holy shit you’re right 😂
they literally missed the entire main plot point from the show.
and the irony is that escaping also saved his life
That’s Probably gonna be rewrote so that he left for “Training”!
But he never wanted to be the avatar, and that’s not really immature for his age. It’s more understandable.
"We at Netflix have no idea how to give people what they want." Fixed it 😂
Sokka was a teenage boy from a rural village with NO OTHER MEN because they were all busy fighting the fire nation. He was forced to "be the Man" of the village from a young age and combine that with the fact that he had no positive role models of masculinity around (because they were all busy fighting the aforementioned war) with the stress of being responsible for his village formed a teenage bs "I'm in charge, Men do this, Women do that" mentality. The only girl in the village close to his age was his little sister! Other that that, it's old people and toddlers. Once he got out into the real world he was humbled VERY quickly. And he took it well, our boy is not malicious, he's just a dofus. You can't have character's learn life lessons if they are perfect from day 1.
Unless the character in question is female...
There’s also the fact the the water tribes are fairly rigid in their gender roles, it’s more obvious in the northern tribe because they actually have men around but it’s true for both north and south.
@@Crystalthewolf1000 Much Less true for the south as far as I can tell, after all, there were Male and Female warriors (before the fire nation killed everybody) and the bending practices were equal opportunity. Katara's Grandma fled the North's misogynistic bs to go to the South, I doubt she would have stayed if it was too similar. She could have just kept going to somewhere else if it was too bad. It's hard to get a real gauge because the population is just so depleted but all signs point towards it being much more respectful. There's also a big difference between choosing to inhabit traditional gender roles VS having anything else be FORBIDDEN, HOW DARE YOU! Which is probably another big difference between North and South.
Double standards.
@@TedEhioghae Your critique is too vague.
Also Iroh hates tea and no cabbages are harmed.
Oh also zuko and iron burn to death after being found out by the bahsingsay police.
or tough isn't blind, her parents just treat her like she is super fragile for "rich people reasons" and she is now completely socially normal an din no way disagrees, except with sokka.
"MY PARSNIPS"
But without Iroh and his tea, how else is he supposed to give all his wisdom to Zuko!? 😂😭
@@Enju23 in-depth talks over ramen noodles... wait that's... a different anime.
"focused on becoming the avatar"
Proceeds to have Aang not learn any element other than air
You mean master he know all the elements he just hasn't mastered them
@@jeremysorejiani mean technically he also didn’t know most of them at all. like he was capable of using them maybe? but consciously no
@@jake6056 he could use all four elements but he was only good with air he was mediocre to bad with the rest but he still was able to harness them without the avatar state active
@@jeremysorejianat the beginning of the show he couldn’t bend earth and was pretty bad at controlling fire (he tried and burned katara)
@@someguy12901 we of course at the beginning I’m talking about later
Someone should draft a bill making it illegal to rewrite adaptations.
I don’t know that that’s feasible, but they SHOULD have people who love the original on board. Especially anything that’s any kind of classic.
The "there ought to be a law" mentality is exactly what drives this socka must behave in the politically correct manner demonstrated here.
god ikr?
between this sorta thing and disney live action remakes.. bro just pay the writers for once, get a new idea. (not like Disney or Netflix or most companies can bother paying writers, artists, animators etc rn, but that's another convo) I can't wait till they very eventually run out of stuff to remake and are _forced_ to have some original thoughts lmao
@@allenstanley3418 I don't get what you mean ?
regardless, there's a massive difference between "politically correct" (dude it's not like he's calling ppl slurs lmao what do you mean) and some random Netflix execs getting too lazy to actually write a character arc properly
yes, just remake the exact same show in the exact same way. Oh, why would they do that when they can re-run the original??
If Aang was serious from the beginning, bro would not have become frozen for a century
He wasn't ready to fight fire benders anyway, Aang would just die...
@@alexzero3736 bro point still stands ded yea frozen nah
When you are so disconnected from reality you forget suka was just telling the truth
Men are better at fighting… tf is going on with the world
Where are all the women fighting in Ukraine ?
Did you watch any of the released trailers, and/or released clips?
I doubt you did, because if you took the time to do so, and not just base your opinion on hearsay, you’d find that Aang isn’t too serious…but the normal goofy and powerful 112 year old kid he always was.
@@victorychukwuka6673 imagine coming to the assumption of what a whole show's gonna be based on a few clips in a trailer...
Plus it was announced that Aang would be more serious.
“This character development is too hard, we’re just going to skip to the end”
Uhhh, what's difficult on ctrl + c; ctrl + v? THE ENTIRE STORY IS RIGHT THERE!!!!
"The character development is offensive and the personalities attract the wrong audience and it's DEFINITELY not the general tone of the show that actually does that, so we're just gonna remove it ☝️🤓"
@@_afancyhat_ "Character development is too hard to understand, I'm just going to say it's offensive."
When you are so disconnected from reality you forget suka was just telling the truth
Men are better at fighting… tf is going on with the world
Where are all the women fighting in Ukraine ?
Even though all that development is WRITTEN OUT FOR THEM
"we won't make toph blind this time. She has an eagle vision now"
Making toph blind would be ableist and her struggle to become a master because she was a rich girl is sexist. So now is a 6'5 muscle bound dude with super eyes and screams to see better called the Boulder
Nah, she's still blind, but won't shut up about it.
so basically Toph’s deaf 🤨🤨 they got eagle vision
@@kou7191 "Hello. Im blind nice to meet you!"
"And your Name?"
"Sorry, didn't hear you cause... you know... im blind"
Plus she will be a real sweet hart not being a good character here no way.
When the creators left the live action show because of the direction Netflix was going, that was the moment I gave up any hope that this show would be good.
damn
yeah, the only time I've ever enjoyed anything live action has been on the rare occasion where the original creator(s) were a big part of the process every step of the way. generally tho, unless it's transformative, any live action "remake" or "adaptation" is a waste of time imo, but that's mainly because I'm a massive animation nerd lmao
Netflix: ”We don’t want Sokka to be sexist! Sexism is bad!”
Also Netflix: *takes away all Katara’s character and personality*
Yes!! Exactly!! Same goes for Suki!!!
To me they all seem blander in the tv adaptation, not just her.
Fr
"Sexism is bad!”
Also Netflix:"Lets make Suki be horny af stalking shirtless Sokka"
So disappointed with what they did to all the characters
Remember everyone. We speak with viewership. They dont see us hating it. They just see how many people watch. If you hate watch you encourage this
That why I will pirate it
@@judgecheese3594Yar Har!
@@judgecheese3594lmao
@@judgecheese3594😂😂
It's the exact reason the Halo show is getting a second season. Everyone heard how bad it was and watched either out of morbid curiosity or hate. So Warner Bros thinks "Oh we made so much money on this! Make more!"
What baffles me is that they complain about sokkas sexism but have absolutely no issues with it in the northern water tribe
THIS.
@ErutaniaRose unfortunately, from some people I've talked to, they just see Master Paku as a minor villain, so they literally don't care, because as a (supposed) villain, he is EXPECTED to learn a lesson and "be better". Of course they with this are missing the point of HIS story, where he is bitter about Katara's and Sokka's Gran-Gran running off on him. And Katara learns that emotions won't win you the day, and she has to be smart about the fights she picks, AS NOT EVERYONE IS A VILLAIN for her to pick fights with, some people are just hurt and lashing out because of that.
Oh they want the old guys to be wrong so the young guys can look better
Because that provides for an actual story beat and character development for katara. It has an actual purpose
@chris1549 😆 then you need to go watch the original again because that's exactly what it served for sokka
Live Action remakes: Honoring your childhood by shitting all over it, and then refusing to learn.
it's funny how the "kids show" is by far more mature, deeper and more complex than the new version. They just erased everything with meaning
i watched it when i was maybe 12-13 and I wanna rewatch it (I may be 15 now but trust me, I've matured)
also i want to watch the movie to see how awfulit is but not really though :|
@@Tyler_T1D the movie is not really good, only maybe if you separate it from the original and see it as something completely different. But I was talking about the new la series though. It's also not good at all. Maybe they shouldn't try to remake or replace masterpieces. The original doesn't need a new version
@@luiiiandmovieee for real, the new harold and the purple crayon movie looks like crap next to the book but I could be biased because those books were my childhood but like why have a grown man play a little kid?
I don't know why we even needed the live action adaptation in the first place. The cartoon series is good, it's so good that it's still all over the media to this day as one of the best tv shows. I would have been fine waiting a few years to get the next cartoon series with them as adults, and I say a few years because currently Jack, who plays Sokka, is currently working on the dragon prince which is another really great Cartoon series from one of the writers that worked on ATLA. As for the other voice actors I would assume they would all be down to return to their roles given that their schedules align.
Lately Hollywood is like "the Hero's Journey is really cool, but you know what's cooler? Starting it basically at the end" 🙄
"About characters with realistic flaws and their development during the story... Who am I kidding, we don't like characters with realistic flaws and character development so we'll just take away these things because characters without flaws and zero character development are what people want"
You could describe it like this
The heroes journey is the most reductive crap ever. Also the guy who wrote it was kind of a piece of shit. The ideas in the heroes story are completely dated. To the point where the only reason it is still used is because people want to deconstruct it or even worse subvert it at the very end. Or midpoint. So many people are writing scripts based off of this because of things circling around Disney. There was a paper circling around Disney basically telling you to write that way and telling you how to twist the Heroes journey but because everyone’s doing it it is too noticeable. And it is not novel certainly not as novel as when Star Wars did it.
@@smokedbeefandcheese4144dude hero journey are classic and the most well known story progression
yup if they want put the story after the end pls follow frieren story progression
I hate Hollywood executives
if Aang wanted to focus on being the avatar then he wouldn't be 112 years old 💀
Oh, he would. The only difference is that he would actually look like one.
He’d have been long gone by then.
@@JohnA.-sp9vb Fire Nation: No one expects the fire nation conquest!
I don’t think you watched the show…
@@P1TheAliennah, he literally watch the show. Aang never been serious when he was announced as the next Avatar, he's just a kid that wanted to have fun, that's why become avatar becomes a burden to him and he decided to run away and froze for almost 100 years. If they decide Aang to be more serious then why did he needs to run away 100 years ago?
Netflix ruined my childhood by making a character with a soul, soulless
"We wanted a serious tone" like having a main character find out his people were slaughtered, or a character get permanently scarred and banished by their father, or the characters whose mother was murdered in cold blood, or multiple episodes about the destruction caused by the war.
Damn, if only there were characters like that
Or the guy who slowly dies from internal bleeding, with one of the theories being that one of his closest friends mercy killed him.
@@Connor-ONeill after being brainwashed by the country he wanted to protect; just to add an extra layer of tragedy.
Or a character who was once a war general who then becomes a peace loving man because his son died on the battlefield
Avatar is seriously a war story descized as a kid show
Making Aang overt serious might be the biggest character assassination I’ve seen in a while😂
Even as an adult, Aang still had his lightheartedness. He just had... a lot in his plate.
a literal twelve year old boy lmao
Isn't that the mistake they made with the other live action Avatar? Lol.
Tbh they've done the same with Percy Jackson in the recent live action 😭
@@dracariplease, explain how they’ve done that to Percy Jackson,because at this point I swear you’re just making shit up
"More Serious tone" = "I have no idea what made this IP work in the first place."
This guy gets it
Isn't that the problem with a minimum of 75% of the reboots and re-imaginings over the last ten years or better?
You guys haven't even watched the show, and you take a few quotes out of context, but you hate it already. You guys lead a sad life.
I disagree. I think there is plenty of space to make AtlA more serious while maintaining the core of the Story and character (development). Just the fact alone that the war takes actual lives was very underplayed in the original, and would be a great if not _essential_ point to (re)visit in this live action.
But yes, taking away the childlike behaviour of characters who are meant to be actual children is not a very good Plan for this IP.
@@Udontknowmi Bruh, have you not witnessed the absolute onslaught of absolutely horrid "New takes on old material?" Its pretty fair to assume its a long shot this is going to be any good.
netflix was sexist by not letting Sokka be humbled because a man can't be humbled.
The entertainment industry should learn that having flaws is what makes characters relatable and that the characters overcoming said flaws is what makes them interesting
Period
The problem is, people are confusing sexism, with Sokka just being a sheltered cocky kid who needed a reality check.
We can have Sokka go through character development without reliving the 00s Girl Power era, yeah?
@@DWargs I mean it was intended as sexism in the form of enforced gender-norms, however he was also a sheltered cocky kid who needed a reality check.
The message has always been good, however this was one of the few series which executed said message perfectly as well in my opinion. Avatar the Last Airbender created strong independent female characters, but in a fashion where they neither undermine men, nor were overexaggerated
Well except maybe Toph being overexaggerated, however that was for a very specific purpose as it's a front she creates for herself to break away from her parent's control, not men, and even then she shows her more vulnerable side multiple times throughout the show, when she's shown to have failed or otherwise been in the wrong
Flaws, what are those? Those are only for the real main character. Side characters must always be perfect because why would you want to relate to a non-main character? 😂
@@matheussandbakk9959 I disagree with you. I feel like the way people have reacted to Sokka's arc have proven that it wasn't well handled. To dismiss this as "sexism" is radically oversimplifying and reductive, and does a disservice to the character and the arc he went through.
Sokka complaining that he lost to a bunch of girls is only the surface level. There's a lot underneath there that a 23 minute episode meant for kids that couldn't adequately unpack and explore. His pride as a warrior, and the duty he felt as a protector of his sister and Aang and his village back home, his shame in not being strong enough to protect them and failing to realize they were getting ambushed. Not to mention, the culture shock of running into a society that is completely different from the one he's always known. I think moving away from the sexism angle isn't removing his flaws at all, but rather, it might be able to allow us to dig deeper into his character and his arc as a warrior in a way that the original show didn't adequately plan and map out.
Also, I feel like applying modern Western terms to an isolated tribe fighting for survival at the edge of the world is a bit disingenuous and unfair, but maybe that's just me.
I heard they're going to be removing the 'there is no war in Ba Sing Se' bit because it was "gaslighty". MY GUY. THAT'S THE POINT.
they’re just taking all the substance out of it to make it “mature” like the animated show didn’t touch subjects like genocide racism and government corruption
@@julie-18bro I have a feeling that Netflix at this point wants to promote racism, sexism and government corruption from how much it’s trying to hide those things from existing thus making it more common since it won’t be corrected
Its cause its too close to real life. 😂😂😂
That was a joke tweet. It was a joke and Netflix never said that.
thats the funniest insider too!!
Almost every single studio/streaming service that makes live-action adaptations needs to follow the mentality of “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.” Seriously, it works.
That's why I don't bother watching remakes
The issue is that they see it as broken based on our modern climate. Things like sexism being a lot more problematic so that’s “broken”
Aang being an actual child with important responsibilities forced on him could be seen as problematic, if he displayed more childlike behavior. So most likely they are going to try to make him less childlike to deflect away from it.
Or just needs to not make live action versions of stories that were told perfectly through animation and just think of something else to make if they want to make something live action
@@kimhyunwoo8983apparently nowadays people can't differentiate supporting sexist behavior and telling a story of a sexist
Funnily enough, this is the reason why the one piece live action is pretty much the best live action remake
Translation: " We are too lazy to write the same thing without directly copying anything. So we just gonna have 2D characters "
“we won’t have any cabbages harmed in the live action”
😂😂😂
Well... I'm glad they didn't do that cause i wouldn't have my most popular video rn 😂
They've gone to far with that one...
That’s a good change
Now this would be going too far
This sounds like one of those:
"We have a story! Now we just need a famous IP to attach it to!"
Time to put their "message" and twists on some successful IP. I swear to god its actually impressive how netflix consistently finds these type of people that actively wants to change something that already works
Or as I like to call it "pulling a Velma"
Reminds me of Birdgirl.
It got cancelled in "2" seasons. It's really just one season split in half.
It's literally what the Halo show is going through and it is abhorrent. I fucking hate unoriginal Humanity.
@@epicgodminecraft73Yeah, Halo Season 1 really seems like a sci-fi show that wanted to do its own thing but also wanted to be attached to a famous IP. Have their cake and eat it too sort of situation. Hopefully with Halo Season 2 actually focusing on a plot point important to the original story (Reach) they might make something good, idk.
focusing on becoming the Avatar
"I don't want to be the Avatar" is the most said line of his in the show xD
Glad we have Aang to tell us that instead of the show... y'know... *showing* us that
@@donnyyario1726 Show don't tell is a lie invented by the movie industry. It is sometimes okay for character to verbalize emotions.
With that said, I wholeheartedly agree, I knew I was missing something from this show :D
@@arnerademacker key word "sometimes." The only thing every character does is tell. The only thing that comes out of their mouths is exposition. Show don't tell is a good thing, and is severely lacking in the live action. A good example of balance between exposition and show not tell is ironically the original animation.
Pretty sure the most said line is "My cabbages!"
@@arnerademackerGaslighting us this hard, at this time of day, in this economy?
We see what we see.
I was with you till you said the people who follow this show are already in their late 20s to early 30s... then my rice crispy knees took offense to that.
I mean technically he said grew up with it...
Sooo if you were between say 5 and 12 when the series came out youd be 24-31 now 😅😂
“And we’re making Katara an Earthbender”
Or a light bender
@@dadatheartist-pt4th plasma bender
@@Angelfish_TheGoat A Quark-Gluon plasma Bender to be exact
she will probably use all the bending ability and harrass any male character cause thats the right thing to do
It's okay, because she has.... EARTH BENDING STYLE!
"We have decided to make Fire Lord Ozai a more sympathetic character."
I wouldn't be surprised
"we have decided that there are not enough zionists in the show so we made Osai a Jew"
I would flip on that one
"He's actually a great father now, we at Netflix feel that way he will connect with new parents"
"In this version, Iroh has hatred for Zuko because Zuko is ignoring the love and affection Fire Lord Ozai displays towards him."
Netflix: “We brought back the cabbage guy voice actor…….. he now hates cabbages”
Honestly, I could see Cabbage Guy ending up hating cabbage. He just got so tired of losing them that he gave up.
"YEAH FUCK MY CABBAGE"
Ahahahahaha
"He now cheers when his cart is destroyed." -Netflix executive.
This is what happens when you don’t protect your work. Oda was very strict with one piece netflix and wouldn’t even agree with netflix unless he felt the director was a fan or atleast understood the material and even demanded no romance. I think the avatar creators just saw money and they thought it would be great but failed to realize if you give Netflix full control they will ruin any franchise
Aang wanting to adventure is part of what helps him seek peace for the world.
And people wonder why the original creator stopped working on the project with them
There are articles saying the original ones left bc THEY wanted to change more. Im not exactly excited for this, but im gonna reserve judgement til i watch the first few episodes
@@serenteaudios1737 well the main reason they actually left is because with the success of paramount, I believe they are starting their own studio for a bunch of different spin-off series and maybe even a new installment. And there is a significant difference between the creators wanting to make some changes within their creation. That's still a line with the characters and the core concept and a studio. Just making blanket changes disregarding the characters and core concepts
We weren't wondering. We knew
Idk about Michael but I know Bryan is a super liberal. I didn’t have high hopes from the beginning for this because if anything I thought he would encourage the Netflixification of the series.
Also, Aang being adventurous throughout most of the show opens up the world to the audience. It also makes it feels like the world moves regardless of the Gangs presence in those locations; which they do.
Very well put. That was one of the best parts of the show. It feels like there's an entire world going on regardless of where the characters go, and they are experiencing it along with us. I couldn't put that feeling into words until I read your comment
Wasn't it gAang? Or sum?
Yeah my guess is they just wanna fit the story into 10 episode seasons soon they can't be added with the side quests
On top of that his adventurous spirit is half the reason they don’t get caught. Because Aang wants to explore and see cool things his movements have little rhyme or reason which made him next to impossible to track
@@lyubomirkonstantinov7825if they do 1hr episodes then they will have the same run time as the animated series, maybe a bit more
"We want Aang to focus on being the avatar".
I'm on episode 4 and Aang has not even tried water bending.
Spoiler alert, he does not and lots of important plot points from the original series is missing, making their characters not as true to the original
@@nvapisces7011 I know :c
Also, I don't know who that is but that's not Katara. She's someone with the same name.
@@nvapisces7011 He does actually. When he enters the Avatar state (yes it's Kyoshi, but they're the same person) and when he embodies the Ocean Spirit (as a Kaiju). I'd chock it down mainly to budget. Water VFX is pretty expensive.
@@Cabolt44 yeah well Aang is more funny in the animated series and is shown to be more playful because he's still a child at 12 years old
@@nvapisces7011 They honestly should have made an adaptation of Legend of Korra. That's the more serious Avatar they could have used. ATLA Liv action feels stale
Idk why they they thought they could improve on perfection
> Focus on becoming the avatar
> Doesn't try to water bend once in the entire first book
Yeah good job with that one
Ugh I hated that too!!
"we're going to give him a visions that's basically like something really bad is going to happen if you don't go to the Northern Water Tribe."
Weird you felt you needed to invent a reason to go to the North when originally Aang is set to go so he and Katara can master water bending... So he can become a serious Avatar??? Like he was determined from the beginning he just wanted to make fun road trip stops on the way!
Omg I just noticed that!! He hasn’t tried to water bend once in the live action! That’s so frustrating
Omg so true like isn't mastering all elements just ad important or not even more like bruh 😭😭 and one thing thay resply bugged me was how qatara Just magically gets better at waterbending like literally in less than a day girly goes from I need a waterbending teacher to I am my own master and I magically became a pro at this 💀
For netflix was more important Katara than Aang... The best way to empowered Katara was to make her teach aang and waterbend with him...
Not even season 1, sokka’s behaviour for FOUR EPISODES
As someone who just watched the episodes. It really does get dealt with fast, but feels natural
@@BearlyAiden honestly it wasn't even a big part of his character but the lesson was. removing this lesson removes sokka.
So season 1?
@@zenieySeason 1 has 20 episodes.
Its like sokka grew up In a small water tribe village and when he eventually went out in the world with his ideals he was immediately knocked on his butt
A big thing about Aang goofing off is that it is basically him running away from his responsabilities, but it always ends with the gang meeting people whose lives were affected by the fire nation in some way, regardless of where they are, this works to show how inescapable the fire nation's threat is to the world, which is a HUGE part of Aang's development into accepting his responsabilities as avatar
The idea for a live-action remake should have been frozen in ice and left for 100 years
I love the way you worded this man
I'm so dumb that I didn't realize this. How wherever Aang and the gang went lives were affected by the fire nation. Damn.
@@stevenyox1252 Same here. Sounded just perfect
It's not just that either. Air nomads are literally the element of fun, as stated by Iroh. Aang quite literally brought joy to the world, not just because he's a kid, but because he's an air nomad. They're known for pulling pranks, living in harmony with nature, and having a good sense of humor. To make Aang more serious and less fun is to take away from the air nomad culture.
Don’t worry! They solved the Kiyoshi problem by turning her into a generic tsundere love interest!!!
Okay but that's fine because I think it's hot 👍
@@janitordel6296 ew- lol
@@virsonyx I don't actually know who Kiyoshi is, just doing some trolling
Also, the fact that Bumi revealed who he was before fighting Anng kinda took away the power of that whole interaction and episode
I thought so as well. That's another thing that really bothered me
yea i thought they ruined bumi in live action. he was too depressed and not the fun guy he was in animation
@@davidtran9455mans was not the depressed he was just trying to teach aang the severeness of what is going on in the world which he also did in the cartoon 😭😭
@@sancholoaded2388 ...no he didn't? His lesson was to think outside of the box, and that no matter how much pressure he faces he should "always think like a mad genius". Literally the lesson verbatim, its the opposite to the new show.
@@sancholoaded2388ya know, I just binged watched it alone that’s not what happened. His lessons was for Aang to be creative and to think outside of the box like a mad genius. It had nothing to do with the seriousness of the world lol
Aang's immaturity and reluctance to be the Avatar drove the whole story. Sokka's character development was tied to the absence of male role models.
Also the way they ruined Bumi....
Exactly! Sokka's arc has deeper messages about positive and negative male influences and how war affects how children are raised, Sokka's inital sexism was really tied up with feeling he needed to play the role of protector while all the men in the Southern Water Tribe were away fighting...not to mention losing his mother and how that probably also made it easier for him to develop sexist opinions.
The reason Katara found Aang in that ice berg is because she was angry at sokka for being sexist towards her. If sokka wasn’t sexist aang would still be frozen for another 1000 years and there wouldn’t be a last air bender series to begin with 😂
He wouldn't even be frozen if he hadn't been an immature kid and run from his responsibilities of being the avatar
@@zmcginnis66 but he was
The show literally wouldn't have started if sokka wasn't being sexist towards his sister, dear goodness, people don't understand storytelling anymore.
@@zmcginnis66tbf thats not really immature as much as it was overwhelmed. Bro was 12😂
You just blew my mind.
Sokka's immature and sexist attitude. Leads the end of the war....
Mid 20s here, early 20s is your youngest ATLA demographic
Nah I’m in the late teens and grew up with ATLA, so did all my friends
very popular opinion : not every animated movie/shows need a live action
I already knew they were gonna botch this.... especially in today's world. 😬
You think they would've learned after the failed attempt at a movie... Hard to make ATLA look realistic in a live action, earth benders would be turning people into ground beef if they had a boulder hurled at them so most of the physics is going to be looking goofy unless they're stuck hurdling pebbles, same with firebending.
Waterbending and airbending might look okay without being too overpowered but if you tried applying actual physics to earthbending it'd be broken af...
@@DrakeOola The special effects actually looked great. It was the acting and dialogue that was the issue.
Remember how the last movie gave everyone cancer? That show kill all of pur inner kid
It's almost like story telling can be done across multiple mediums and some are better for certain stories than others for those same stories....shhhh..... don't tell anyone.
It was his sexism that got kitara angry enough to accidently free aang from the ice.
But this time aang just slipped right out 🤦🏽
There's a sublte Irony in having sexism deviding the ice and then somehow bringing world peace
@@Belladonno_The_Clown Noooo, you've got to be joking lmao
Aang in live action fr just breaks out on his own 😂 @@sydneyps
@@sydneyps unfortunately I am not ( it just randomly explodes and he just slides right out )
"We're also going to make Uncle Iroh an asshole"
that would be the end of Netflix. Imagine the backlash, the petitions, the cancelled accounts. They'd never recover from that.
Nahhh... No. No. No. Anything else I can accept. They can make Katara a lesbian feminist if that's what they want. But don't ruin Iroh. He is the best character in the show
them's fighting words
If they announce something like that I'm pulling up to Netflix HQ. I'm not even joking, I will do this in the name of this amazing show
@@rentsuruga8282it doesn't matter how good they try to make Iroh, the live action will never be as wise or as kindhearted as Mako's Iroh
Without Suki humbling Sokka, he's basically the guy Yue is engaged to
Toph will now be the bolder played by Dewayne Johnson.
🤣🤣🤣
Noo 😂
that would be dope for the ember island players episode
If Dwayne Johnson doesn't play the Boulder or Tough (Ember Island Players) I will riot
What is even better in the animated series The Bolder was Voiced by Mick Foley, a one-time WWE wrestler
And she no longer has tremor-sense, but uses sound to see like Daredevil.
"AAAAAAAAAAH. There, now I have gotten a good look at you."
(That's from the hilariously awful play in the Ember Island Theater that was a fire nation understanding of their adventures in the last season of ATLA aka ep57)
“Sokka can’t be a misogynist because it’s 2024.”
Paku: “You can’t fight because girl.”
Stop the cap
@@flownel1278what are you even trying to say? Are you supporting or denying?
im assuming that the "you're a girl you can't fight" doesn't happen. dissolving the plot further.
No one said Sokka CAN’T be a misogynist, they condensed the story a ton so they made cuts to certain arcs. They didn’t change it for moral reasons.
@@ThatRandomGuy-ym2bv Avatar animated series is so epic the live action eliminate the essence of the character
"We have also swapped the roles of Azula and Uncle Iroh."
TELL ME IT'S NOT TRUE
Why do I see them do that?
Oh please no 😢
The disrespect of Uncle Iroh can never be tolerated!
I know it's very bad and all but this would be kinda interesting
"late 20's early 30's" i feel targeted lol
Just love how netflix thinks they are gonna "fix" something that is already absolutely perfect.
M knight thought he was going to “fix” it too… and we all know how that went… why are we trying so hard to revive a bow tied ending of a show like ATLA anyways? I get it’d be cool to see it in live action with 95% green screen and cgi… instead of enjoying the time and effort and YEARS that went into animating, writing, scripting, choreographing, editing, etc that went into the original show… I’m sure this will likely be a 2/5 show at worst but a 3/5 at best
(1) avatar, although enjoyable, is far from perfect.
(2) they're not trying to fix anything. They are simply adapting the story to live action with 1 hour episodes, which means maturing it a little bit. You can't have 20 minute standalone montages per episodem that wouldn't make sense.
@@Udontknowmiwell if "that" is their reason for trying to change certain aspects of the show, they should've told the audience. Not riding on this fake wokeness just to attract certain audience. Their very reason of changing aspects of the show is a disrespect to the original.
@@Udontknowmi Your point would be good if the original show didn't blend serious dialogue with breaks of levity masterfully. Longer episodes don't mean a better series, it just means the show is adapting more content into single episodes for an overall lesser number of episodes. Humor and serious dialogue are not mutually exclusive, and changing a story that is born of both concepts to only be one, diminishes the quality of that story.
Like they 'fixed' the Witcher. Oml. They hire complete hacks that have no respect or understanding of what made the original IPs work.
What's that? "if they don't change anything then what's the point of a remake"?
EXACTLY! These live action 'reimaginings' are pointless af selling nostalgia to depressed millenials.
As a depressed millenial this makes me sad.
“The fans are in their late twenties or early thirties”
Damn bro did not have to call me out like this
I'm about to be 27 in 4 days and I just got done finishing the OG for like the millionth time. It will never get old.
im literally a teenager but still grew up with this show ❤
I'm literally 17 😅
For real I felt that😂
50 year old fan of ATLA here!!! 🙋♀️
It's like all the writers forgot how important complexity and bad character traits are. Zuko isn't our favorite because he got a new hairstyle and is a brooding bad boy, he's our favorite because of how much we saw him grow and change to be more compassionate.
Same with Sokka and Aang. They started off as immature children and ended as kids matured beyond their years while still withholding some of that childish charm (look at how Sokka acted in the Ember Island Tales episode).
Don't worry, all the male characters will have plenty of Patriarchal flaws, they just won't grow at all as they are men and incapable of it. The women won't grow either, but that's because they are already perfect from birth. This is Netflix!
Yeah, and they totally removed one of Zuko's important turning points--attempting to save General Zhao (who'd just tried to murder him) from the ocean spirit! And had Iroh kill him instead! So so lame
"We noticed characters in the series had flaws and eventually overcame them. We decided we didnt like them having flaws."
no one's gonna talk about bumi's character? I mean the open minded fun bumi who taught Aang to think outside the box? bumi was just portrayed as a grumpy old king
The entire Omashu episode pissed me off. Like they intertwined 5 different episodes and it was an absolute mess.
As he should be was defined by war and told aang the same. Did you not listen to anything lol
@@dhaoracledid you miss the part were that’s not who Bumi is. It’s like changing Obi wan in a new story and making him bitter and hateful towards Luke because of what Anakin did and the awful things Obiwan went through
@@dhaoracle right ✨
Let's talk about azula 😂 the way they wrote her insecure af from the very start threw me off. She was supposed to be menacing and being a threat. But nah they decided to show how desperate she is for her father's approval 😔
"We wanna make it like Game of Thrones" Keep Katara and Sokka away from each other
azula, stay away from zuko!
@@LS-jv9hp i just remember that the VA of azula said when asked "if azula went with zuko in a life changing adventure what that would be" and she said "i would get pregnant"
@@loft777oh my law!😂
Azula chasing Zuko around as a crazy Yandere would certainly be a more interesting change than what Netflix is doing. I mean if they had to change it at all.
R34 has had that covered for years.
Oh god please stop
Netflix is ruining something? Couldn’t have guessed that. 😂
Yup
Can't wait for them to just cancel it after the first season 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Not only that look what the did to Ultraman why is he quipped why does his legs look like that
@@NovaaTheGreatShow hasn't even come out yet and people are already upset how is this possible? Also where is everyone getting this info im so out of the loop
Thats why I am happy Oda took such a big part in the one piece live action
I love how they claim he wants to focus on becoming the Avatar yet he did not bend a single drop of water by himself in season 1 when is live action gonna get it right that Water was the easiest element for him to Master other than his native element
CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
Netflix “ I don’t know what that means “
So Zuko hasn’t developed whatsoever? “Kill avatar” start of season to “respect avatar” by the end of it. You’re ignorant and just want to hate because others are doing it. You’re less original than the live action avatar show.
You misspelled Bryke.
Not just netflix…. Like all of Hollywood doesn’t care for character development smh
@@sarahlarock9885 if you think the avatar characters are the same as they were from start to finish with zero development then you didn’t watch the show. You’re just another annoying “fan” that hates everything because you’re a jerkoff that’s bored with life
@@playfulpanthress what?
“Sokka can’t be sexist”
First episode shows a genocide of an entire people 😂
even the children it's the younglings all over again!
It just wasn't needed to define his character, I like Netflix spin on it
Then pakku in the water tribe IS STILL SEXIST. WHAT THE FUCK?
They rather put a bunch of people getting slaughtered instead of some sexist remark cause you know the viewer is very sensitive
@@kpbear13It 100% was needed. All the warriors of his tribe left, leaving him as the only guy in the tribe. So he learned he had to be the toughest and baddest of the village.
Suki teaches him to not be sexist and to accept that others can protect themselves. Netflix can suck it.
We don't like that Sokka was Sexist.
NOBODY DID THATS WHY ITS CALLED "Character growth"
I did.
@@JensMorrison Fake fan + L + Tourist.
stop tryna be different lil bro@@JensMorrison
@@childmolester296 Your name...Just. No.
I only like it because it always led to him getting his ass handed to him. He was always punished for his sexism.
Netflix: Character development, what's that? Never heard of it.
One of the biggest complaints about the live action movie was that aang was too serious. Sad to see Netflix commiting to the same mistake. Sure, he has his serious moments, but his initial goofy personality helps to create contrast and show his struggle to make difficult choices when he has to
Because they adapting the live action not the animation, let's just go with that so we don't jave to care what kind of garbage it's gonna be.
I think the movie ang did try to go a little innocent but then someone saw characters development and said we don't need that.
Man wdym? Did you not see the trailers and behind the scenes? Aang's gonna be a goofy af kid most of the time lmao
@madridistasejati5358 almost the entire cast are fans of the animation even throw shade at the movie during interviews
Watch their behind the scenes snippets and you'll know they're 100% not going for what the movie did
There is no movie
I just rewatched Avatar as an adult. Trust me when I say they don’t need to make the story more ‘mature.’ Like all good children’s stories, it is more than sufficiently captivating for an adult audience.
I think they just needed to make it less naive. A 100 year war can be shown for the horror that it is in a live action. That doesn't mean they had to never have anything silly happen.
Yup. My dad who hates watching animation absolutely loved ATLA. Toph was his favorite(like everyone).
The fox and the hound 😭
It's a high point in action, fantasy, family, and animated television. It really didn't have much room for improvement.
@@PainMonkey Had me tearing up multiple times, and I remembered some really important lessons that I'd lost sight of somewhere along the way. It really is exceptional.
No wonder the original writers left during development.
They left because they wanted to change a lot of it and make it more serious. Everything fans don't want
Yup its gonna flop...Netflix directors need to take note...
@@sirnuggets9666 why?
Pfft bryke aint all that. If its up to only the two of them, appa would have been a dog and toph would have been a man
@@rocknroll1973they're taking a property that is well loved, and changing it _away_ from what people loved.
Worse, they're doing so in a way that destroys character arcs, so it isn't even likely to offer good storytelling to people who aren't already familiar with the story they're butchering
Fun fact, the reason aang is frozen in an iceberg is because he ran from responsibilities because he wanted to go on adventures. So if he were to be serious from the beginning, he would have never been frozen in the first place
He's not just a kid. He's an airbender. He's supposed to be a free spirit
He will be. Stop judging the show without seeing it yet smh
no he won't just wait and you'll see everyone was right@@Udontknowmi
@@Udontknowmi I don't know about you but if I remember correctly being ultra serious is not free spirited
@@UdontknowmiYou act like a payed shill. This is history repeating itself for the umpteenth time. 1: Beloved and well respected original IP releases with striking success. 2: Someone representing what is a debatably higher level of art takes said IP looking to spread its audience and smears it into the ground because they destroyed and removed everything that’s fundamental to the original story. It’s BS. Stop defending abhorrent trash.
@@risingphoenix2529je probably i saw about 5 comments in various places justsaying stuff like you havent watched the show etc...
If they wanted to do their own thing they should make their own show, not take someone else’s hard work just to butcher it.
taking other people's work and exploiting it has been the MO of rich old executives since capitalism became a thing lol. it's not even surprising at this point just an irritating reminder that even art has become a product to sell and nothing more
That's Netflix's MO though.
You all just jump on the bandwagon without reading and doing research right?
@@victorychukwuka6673 we actually want it to do well, but you cant deny there's a usual pattern with adaptations
@@victorychukwuka6673 with history comes expectations. Netflix has a stupid ass history and so we have stupid ass expectations
Uncle Iroh, come pick me up, I'm scared.
Iroh really is the dottering old fool is appears and will never be able to help anyone. This is Netflix.
Room for me in the car....I'm scared too lol
Him being serious literally changes the entire show. He was frozen in ice for 100 years because of his immaturity and not wanting to be the avatar
“fire lord ozai is no longer evil. its the *mother* thats evil.”
WHAT. I only watched the first episode but I'm seriously considering not watching it now 😭
@@Kadagirl777 NO DONT WORRY ITS JUST A JOKE 😔😔
@@rovic3arceno429 😂You really had there 🤣 Given the other things people were saying I thought there could be some truth there 🤣I do still have doubts about watching more of it though- having them show the Earth Kingdom spy get brutally murdered on screen in the first five minutes, plus dedicating a huge chunk of time to seeing all the Air Nomads get mercilessly slaughtered and burned to death did not exactly do it for me 😬(And they gave it a PG rating! 😵💫) Between that and all the other feedback, I'm not sure if I'm gonna really like it. I'm currently rewatching the original because I had to wash the bad taste of that first episode out of my mouth 🤣
And we're going to show Azula being a pussy in season one
@@Kadagirl777I only maybe made it 5 minutes in
Uncle Iroh now likes coffee
No that's goes to far.
Hot bean juice!? He is the Tea Guy! He is the wise old man! He is...*Sips some calming jasmine tea*...the best tea maker in Ba sing se!
That's blasphemous
@@KohakuB He opens the first Starbucks in Ba sing se
@@deondrepolk4502😂😂😂 is going to attract a lot of white girls and Hispanic girls
We can never get a ATLA live action W
It would require a monumental ammount of wrangling of corporate suits to get that done.
@@silaslithian5298 at this point? God is the only who can make it happen. These humans don't listen
We did😢
@@crimminalityfan477tf you talking about
Check the movie
I heard something about toph not being blind either.
They are actively trying to piss off the entire audience that wanted the show in the first place.
Netflix is really going the Ember Island Players route, aren’t they…
Nah, Ember island was fun until the Finale. This will be bad since the start if it is the way its going, hell, the Creators dropped out of the production
But apparently without any of the comedy
Lol great reference, I was thinking the same thing myself lol, the only difference is that Netflix will put zukos scar on the back of his head, under his hair. Azula will never lighting bend, Toph will be deaf, and aang will literally start the show as a 112 year old man
Jacob and CoassicmanD are one of the only people now who speak with common sense
Classicman D*
true
One of the best UA-camrs who speak with sense
Crazy how I got Classicman D’s broken or pure evil video before this one. His content is peak.
Well folks it’s about that time
There’s nothing wrong with a sexist/racist character. The problem is if the show rewards the character for their sexism/racism and/or if it is never addressed in the story
Absolutely. If anything is that sends a better message than never ever showing that people can hold such beliefs.
We live in a society where rather than identifying, admitting there's a problem then working to fix that problem, we'd rather pretend it doesn't exist.
It's even fine to reward the character. After all, real life does frequently. What matters is the message you send, which, coincidentally, happens to be literally the strongest part of Avatar...
FACTS. sometimes it's important to show such characters because they reflect reality but then show growth or put them in their place to set an example of what should be ideal and acceptable in society
Not only nothing wrong, I find it inherently good to tell socially-challenging stories. Discomfort is not a bad thing. Sometimes others have uncomfortable morals and ideas, sometimes it's uncomfortable to hold a mirror to your own biases. Yet, learning how to navigate it, both on a personal and interpersonal level, is essential to... just being a person around other people. We've just learned to rely on avoidance.
I don't understand if Netflix wanted a serious Avatar who's focused on responsibility why didn't they made live action for Avatar Kyoshi
This just also completely ignores the reason why Sokka thought this way at the beginning: war separated his family and the men of the southern water tribe leaving him as the final and only line of defence and possible main hunter of the southern tribe. He had a ton of responsibility chucked onto him as a kid that manifested in unhealthy ways through stress. You can see this happen again when they meet up with Suki the second time on the serpents pass with Sokka becoming super overprotective from the stress of loosing princess Yue. There’s no malice behind his sexism just some teenage bravado and a diet that consists of 95% stress
On top of that his adventurous spirit is half the reason they don’t get caught. Because Aang wants to explore and see cool things his movements have little rhyme or reason which made him next to impossible to track
Bingo, Sokka being the only male figure is what creates his sexism through naivete
It is remedied by a hearty opening of his mind by the Kioshi Warriors.
That last bit about Aang's unpredictability is the pinnacle of accurate, that's why Zuko and Aang clash more often than any other people hunting him, because Aang either gets into some drama and creates an unintended scuffle, drawing Zuko, or Zuko figures out a pattern or meets plot convenience to be there.
If he wanted to go straight to becoming the avatar, Zuko would NOT catch up ever and Azula would have to be unleashed by literally episode 6
True, it's literally a major plot point that Zuko can't find Aang because Aang is too busy goofing off in unpredictable ways.
I will correct that it wasn’t JUST Sokka being left to protect the village as the only man left to defend their home. That absolutely reinforced things, of course, but as we see when they visit the Northern Water Tribe and Katara’s struggle to be seen as worthy pupil, there’s some enforced gender roles and bias from their culture as well.
Exactly. It's misguided overcompensation due to a lack of healthy male role models and due to insecurity about disability to fulfill the huge responsibilities foisted upon him ar such a young age. Anyone who sees Sokka and his general attitude toward anyone akd considers it malicious don't have enough media literacy to adapt a show like this.
My absolute favorite part of season one is when Iroh says the avatar is impossible to track, then it cuts to the Gaang and Sokka’s asking Aang if he’s sure he knows where they’re going. 😂 Aang wants to ride the elephant koi, but he doesn’t remember where they’re at. Plus, his lesson with Bumi is all about having fun and thinking outside the box.
Slowly starting to make sense as to why the OG creators walked out on the project
same thoughts 😅
Actually it has been rumors that the OG creators wanted to do more changes to the characters, due to over time not being happy with them in hindsight
@@1hmgirlthank you for sharing this! Also all these posts are random news sights trying to get clicks by taking things out of context and deeming theories as facts. The new Netflix clip describes aang as a fun loving kid who has responsibilities he doesn’t want. THAT IS AANG! #waitbeforehate
You haven't watched the show so you can't say shit.
@@1hmgirl There are “rumors” about almost everything. Doesn’t make them remotely true.
And they removed zuko's quest for acceptance from his father
That’s mad
Bruh that is like 99.99% of Zuko’s character in the early part of the series and what makes him feel real. We men all chase the approval of others especially those of our male role models. For Zuko that was his dad, even though he banished him and gave him that scar on his eye. Part of his growth was realizing that his dad wasn’t a good man through the help of his Uncle Iroh. How the fuck do you want to change something as beautiful as that? It is perfectly in line with progressive agenda Zuko’s dad was toxic masculinity walking around, conquering places and imposing his will while Iroh is an example of positive masculinity a man who doesn’t seek to conquer but rather learn from others and understand their way of life evidenced by him learning how to channel lightning from something water benders do and his peaceful way of life, love for tea, him even chilling out and opening a tea shop in the earth nation. If you change Zuko’s quest for acceptance you discard the need for uncle Iroh which just sucks because he is such a great character
oh this whole thing is cooked. shut it down
@@LnRit02The comment is a joke, I heard they're making him fight to kill his father in the Agni Kai.
It’s like they glossed over the other half of the reasons we all hated that movie
What movie
There is no movie in ba sing se
@@Nikx-youtubeit’s best to say that
We are safe here.
@aimnotjouk734 Oong!
There are only two correct ways to make adaptations.
Either you take the exact same characters and don't fuck up the original story. Like The Last Of Us did.
Or you take the general idea of the original, and make a new story with new characters. Like Fallout did.
I believe there is a third option: You recreate the episode of Ember Island players.
Which category does Arcane fall into? I feel like neither. Closer to category 1 because it's not an entirely new story, but it's basically filling in the gaps in a big way (creating a whole story from tiny breadcrumbs).
Third option: muppets
@@Onaterdem Riot was heavily involved in making sure it lined up with the lore they had released in game. So it would be like making a show based on lore like the dead space movies did using the logs and environmental story telling from the game to expand the background lore.
The Last of Us and Arcane both did important changes that make the story different
But they kept the same tone as the original and told a story that made sense.
Lets not forget Katara was refused to be taught water bending by the water tribe until she physically proved herself and her lineage was found out. It took her being the granddaughter to the love of his life after the fact if the fight for him to agree to teach her warrior skills!
Katara ends up continuing to teach the avatar to waterbend. There are blatant resergence of character issues that also have to be resolved through the story line which also includes Kataras over bearingness because she lost her mom from a tender age, so she felt the need to take on that role while Sokka had to be the 'man of the house' there is so much push and pull until they figure it out and find balance.
Even with Toph she deals with ableism ssince she is blind. Are we just going to ignore that fact? The amazing thing about this show is that the characters are complex and they go through various archs that brings out the positives as well as negatives of those characters changes bringing us character progress as well as character regression (Zuko).
Overall they did the one thing they shouldn't have and that is turn a light hearted show with serious tones into a dark series with some light hearted moments.
The only thing Toph cant do is read or write with the occasional not being able to see mid air stuff (sometimes). Its not like she has a walking stick or cant fight. She was the strongest earthbender besides Bumi
Character regression (zuko) ?? How did his character regress?
@@zerenityzerene4410he was improving a lot (like in zuko alone), but then in the finale of season two, he still joined forces with Azula, which can be seen as a character regression, because in the literal same episode he was happy living with iroh in the tea shop, and he was connecting a lot with katara.
@@cloudyskyz2237and that's something very human, happens when your ego is still too high and there happens something that makes you do what you already know is wrong in the name of what you wanted to achieve before, all because of that pride
This is what happens when you give too much writing power to moral grandstanders who don't actually pay attention nor care about the IP they're adapting.
Its funny because Sokka's original plotline was literally in line with their ideologies, they were just too arrogant and ignorant to realize it
"Benders will no longer exist in our adaptation. We want the show to be more grounded and serious"
The only benders exists in our adaptation is gender bender
ok the no benders was a bad idea. shamalama had a great plan tho firebenders need lighters to bend dont worry it will be great
There're five elements according to Netflix: fire, water, earth, air and gender.
@@Itoyokofan Water. Earth. Fire. Air. My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, how the four nations once lived in harmony. How everything changed once the Gender Nation attacked. Only the Avatar mastered all four elements. Only he could stop the ruthless gender benders. But when the world needed him most, he started to doubt his own gender.
"The bending will come from implantations"
Can we please not forget that, even though Aang matured into a proper Avatar, he was still a fun loving goofball to the very end?
I love how in LoK they show that even as an adult he still usually did the same trick with the silly face from when he was a kid.
Even as an adult he did still have a picture of him with that airbending trick and a nice smile
Literally! Every human being's personality becomes permanent at the age of 12, Aang is a sweetheart jokester to the end!
@@MarvelousMi Aang was also 12 years old when he ran away from being the Avatar.
If what you say is true, then because personalities are permanent at that age, Aang is still running away from being the Avatar...
Don't go making things up, to sound smart.
That is not at all how it works@@deathsheir2035
We started Hesitant, got Optimistic, and now we dread the Netflix series
i've already slapped it with the "live action airbender atrocity" sticker and stuck it with the movie. no need to watch it
I don’t know, considering the creators of avatar, the last Airbender backed out of it almost instantly, I always thought it was gonna be terrible
@@grubalaboocreosote4774 agreed, when the creators left I considered it game over
How many live-action adaptations of cartoons/anime do y'all need to see flop before you stop getting your hopes up?
@@vipture.Hey, there have been good ones (or a good one at least)
The cartoon: Let the characters have a flaw that they will later overcome to become a better person and teach the audience a lesson.
Netflix:everyone perfect
“We’ve decided Zuko is not going to hunt the avatar”
Maybe they want to make him want to find and teach ghe Avatar instead
And Iroh will be the uncle who makes everyone uncomfortable
"hunting humans is way too problematic"
His father will not hate him and his sister will not be a crazy megalomaniac bitch
Also his parental issues are too triggering so Ozai is now a good father.
@@AngryAlfonse Genocide is too disturbing and dark, so the fire nation became friends with the air nation instead. No more enemies. Yay! Happy ever after!
What pisses me off the most - my parents will watch the Live Action adaptation, complain about some things that the Cartoon got right, and then refuse to watch the Cartoon because "it's animated" -_-
Your parents are dumb dawg ngl. Animation is meant for all people used to do animation for adults and then it became for kids and every group of people
Yeah I have friends who decided to watch the live action, but won’t watch the cartoon because it’s “Anime” i mean it has some tropes and inspiration but it is by far NOT an anime
@@pixalmasterstudios2485 people hate anime because of community and they are wrong, some people are degenerates but that doesn't mean everyone is like this.
@@losthunt9061 oh I get that! I know some very normal people who like Anime. I’ve even watched some anime every now and again. I don’t discriminate a series just because it “looks anime” I only care about story and characters
My sisters did this exact same thing. But they think the live-action adaptation is better than the original despite never having watched the original animated TV show.
Sokka is also a teen who doesn't understand girls, and didn't grow up with other girls his age who weren't his sister. ALSO a high number of the people in the southern water tribe are women, the warriors left to fight the fire nation. Sokka didn't have a good male role model growing up. So when he meets Suki, he meets a strong independent woman who actually likes him, not because he's a jerk, but because he learned from his mistakes. He showed that even though he's wrong, he can be open minded and learn to be a better person. Which is a very important lesson for kids, the ones who watch nickelodeon, that you can be wrong, and own that, grow and still be liked even when you made mistakes.
Bros just straight up not even sexist for his culture. Why was he raised by women? Because all the dudes went to war. Thats THEIR culture. And his tribe is the progressive one lmfao. Kataras whole arc about overcoming the sexist traditions of the southern water tribe to learn waterbending cut next?
Netflix when they keep their characters flaws in one piece and it actually works: 😱
🎶 "Twigs from the branch, falling so fast. Cowardly civilian girl, runs away from home."
-Iroh, singing about his daughter who is still alive.
Leaves from the vine, they never fell. My femboy soldier son, comes marching home.
@@asimplewizardayo
@@asimplewizard He told me his life, at the camp was hell. Little femboy son, always getting boned
@@shlecko you know why Iron was called the Dragon of the West?
@@asimplewizardno why?