@@TheMetrored Oh for sure. My parents and aunts who are all baby boomers spend their entire day on social media. They post all their personal information and have no privacy settings on their pages, its all just public. 🤦🏽♂️
They will rebuttal with “I’m the parent, you are the child” these people see as though they own their children and have the right to do as they please.
That’s true but... according to the law children cannot consent to anything, so the parents do that for them so... they aren’t in the right but they aren’t in the wrong either...
I grew up with my mom posting pictures of me and my brother without permission. We started telling her to stop when we were 12, our wishes were never respected. Instead, she would lie to us, and we had to stop allowing her to take pictures of us altogether. She still takes pictures of us behind our back. It's disgusting how parents treat their kids like they aren't human beings with their own wants and boundaries.
Your mom was wrong for doing that. I just wanted to validate that from someone out here shocked to hear these parents defending themselves. Um, take all the photos and vids you want of yourself (I mean, maybe wake up and spend more time with your therapist too), but don't put underage humans out there for anyone to see. So gross, using their children for their own need for attention.
Parents can be so stupid. With ai and deep fakes this is going to be a whole other issue when sick people make ai pornography out of these kids photos.
Someone should ask these moms how they'd feel if their kids took photos of them and posted them without permission. No makeup, wearing something unflattering, making a weird face? Too bad, mom. But it's cool, it's just my closest friends judging you.
Agreed. There's kids should out it it the test. Make a private account with fake followers or something and do exactly the same thing they're doing. See how they feel about it.
@@hussainalkatheri7427 this noooooot about law. Law does not ever dictate morals-WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONSENT. The point... It flew over your head.
...how do you think laws get written then? do you think legislators just roll a magic 8-ball and go “oh I guess murder is wrong now. time to go home guys.” no, laws are always playing catch-up to morals. if there’s a gap in the legal system you fix it, you don’t go, “well it’s not a law so I guess that’s alright.”
Adja Ndiaye so your the person to say that I need to ask my baby for consent to change its diaper? I’m just being realistic... like do you not think that after all the caring your parents gave you they don’t deserve any right? Just the financial cost of raising a child is expensive I’d atleast say your trading some rights so that you can have food and a roof over your head. I also don’t agree with what they said about it causing credit card numbers to be stolen there is a difference between being stupid and sharing your children’s lives online.
In this generation there is a huge issue of social media addiction so calling that out is justified. Not that the older generation is any better. Just don't make it a blame game ;p
When I was 12, I asked my mom if I could share a picture of my face online, and she was against it because she didn't know much about the internet and was afraid of the dangers. Kinda weird to see that nowadays it's more the other way round.
my mom was the same. growing up, i was always frustrated with her that she kept me away from the internet. she would post about me on facebook, but very rarely, if ever, with pictures. just storytelling, really. but i would get frustrated bc i wasn't allowed on youtube or anything like that, and it was hard to make friends at school. while i still think there could've been a happy medium, i'm glad she wasn't like these toxic moms, and i'm goad she restricted my internet instead of setting me free on there. the internet is a dangerous place, especially if you don't know that
my mom did both lol. i wasn’t allowed to have fandom accounts on instagram but would post me without my knowledge for strangers to see. make it make sense lol
1st gen of parents who are dealing with this, and i think alot over do it, some try too hard to keep up. I have kids and nobody had to tell me to minimize their social media presence till they are old enough to consent. Alot of parents brag about their 6 yr old having instagram and facebook profiles and when i look at them.like why a 6yr old need that they look at me like im crazy...
@@gem6105 She's actually 44 and she's a lawyer-turned-comedian with this sort of blunt humour so I think half of what she was saying was trying to give that dead pan humour but clearly it didn't come through well in this setting which was supposed to be a serious video on a real issue and she should've chosen other words lol.
Findlay M Walker apparently children aren’t “people” to a lot of adults we seem to forget that a lot sure, children are children. but children are also people with rights. not dolls.
Except that YOUR children are being manipulated by forces outside of your home pretty much 24/7. While, I agree about not posting photos of one's self or other people online for privacy and safety reasons, I completely disagree with the corrupt media posing as arbitrator of familial affairs. The media through feminism has pretty much destroyed the male/female relationship. We certainly don't want them to destroy the mother/child relationship.
Many parents say that nowadays. It's sickening, to be honest. It's plainly unbelievable how social media was just introduced less than 15 years ago (I'm not exactly sure how accurate this is), yet so many parents are obsessed with forcing memories into the public world.
I posted pictures of my daughter until I heard my friends talking about getting permission from their kids to post. I can’t believe it didn’t occur to me before! I asked my 5 year old that day and she said she didn’t want me to post pictures. The emotional pull to post and get “likes” was hard to give up but I’m glad I did. She needs to know I respect her and will protect her, not exploit her.
This just shows how so many parents think that their children are just extensions of themselves, and therefore do not treat them as individuals with individual rights and wants.
Because you know they would NEVER post a friend's pictures without their permission. Or if a friend asked them to take a picture down, they would do it without hesitation.
I've always disliked how parents think they're so entitled to their kid's autonomy and agency. Especially of their kid's image. Hated all the clothes my mom chose for me.
L C I agree, and it sort of reminds me of My Sister’s Keeper, even though it’s an extreme example. But it’s similar to me in the sense that the parent(s) don’t consider what’s best for their child, but more so what they want.
If the Indian girl's mom were my mom, I'd go crazy. She said "ok, I'll stop", but her choice of words just sounds so martyr-ey to me. That drives me crazy.
When my son turned 13 he started asking me not to post pictures of him. After that point, whenever I felt an uncontrollable urge to post something where he was the sole focus of the photo, I asked permission. He shot me down so many times. As a mom, I was proud of him. This is his boundary and I am willing to listen.
Lawrence Chen I feel like her and her mom have at least set a healthy line of communication and she’ll be more considerate of social media in regards to her daughter. Sometimes we do need someone to sit us down to let us know we’ve been bothered by something when it didn’t seem so harmful before.
Th little girl’s mom was the best, she was very open to listening to her child and acknowledged that she should’ve asked and agreed to do so in the future
@@somemorre over the last few years MySpace has been deleting old profiles as they're gradually taking down their servers, about half the accounts made before 2008 have been stripped
Celebrities need to be held accountable for this too. I hate it when I see a celebrity parent talking about something embarrassing their kid did on a talk show.
i'm following this couple, and they're having a baby soon. every time they talk about the pregnancy, the comments are like "can't wait to see the baby!" and all. but sometimes they talk about how they will never post their kids until they're old enough to give educated consent, and when i heard that i was so happy. they're setting a beautiful precedent!
Parents: you can get kidnapped and lost so easily, don’t leave the house, and don’t talk to people online, all those online friends are proly predators. Also parents: this.
TheBuildingFreak Watch the whole video. If the post something truly interesting/weird/bad, anyone can screenshot it and re-share it. And private accounts aren’t that much better, because why would you want your mother’s college roommate to see random pictures of you?
@@TheBuildingFreakif the child had a private account and posted a photo of their mother in a bikini in an unflattering angle for all of their friends from school to see, would there be the same energy? (It.s okaay, right? Just friends from school, the kid knows them) Also. The account of the parents has people that THEY are "close" with , not the child (tbh, it.s mostly about bragging, not about sharing info with close ones). Also many predators or people with ill intent are usually friends any family of the parent. I remember, that when I was a minor, I was ok with kids my age knowing my deepest darkest secrets, but not toxic family "friends".
Yeah basically when you have to raise your own parents because they're used to an older more immature narcissistic world without smartphones that hold the entire world's information, it tends to be a very sad state of affairs.
“It’s because of how aware I am of the implications of the digital footprint…” Good for her! This girl is going places in life and has more sense than the majority of adults, apparently 🙄
Parents can be so stupid. With ai and deep fakes this is going to be a whole other issue when sick people make ai pornography out of these kids photos.
True, young people shouldn't have to fight for their PrIvACy with their own parents, as a latino mom that I am, as long as they live under my roof and eat from my food I'm the boss here. Unless the parents are putting them at REAL risk by sharing inappropriate pictures or very private information I don't think they have the right to complain. My husband is Belgian and we live in both countries: Belgium and France and here is also up to us to decided what to share or not, it's not about a kid not wanting pictures, is about being inappropriate or embarrassing pictures of ANYONE, but minors will have a huge work to try to prove their parents have no right to do so. Good luck to them. But them again, we have teachers beheaded while giving a class on Freedom of Speech, which shows how much the country knows how to deal with it's issues. My son is 4 years old and I only have 3 pictures of him on my instagram (one per year on his birthday, one year I didn't post), I dont use much social media and I dont like to share, but that is me. This things are only for white middle class brats or kids brain washed by whites. We would tell our latino/black moms what to do or not to do and we would lose a tooth. Meanwhile those are the moms that are actually well cared and beloved until they die and we take all good care of them when they are old. White parents that do all by the books are VERY OFTEN left to die in asylums forgotten by their families. Here in Europe almost all white parents die alone despise giving all PrIvACy to their kids. I'm not raising a white Brat, here is latino and my family will work as a latino family does.
@@allwhatilove914 It really isn't a matter of race. It causes conflict and that is undeniable. You say your children have no right to complain and that and as long as they live under your roof you are the boss. That proves that you don't see them as people but as things you control. Imagine being put in that position yourself if you even can. I'm sure if you were a victim of this you wouldn't draw the conclusions that you did. Your opinion is clearly one made without though or contemplation as shown by your racist undertones, over possessiveness and inability to make sense of information given to you. You also latch on to tradition blindly believing that just because your mother might have drawn the conclusions that you draw now that they are valid. Honestly it's people like you who shouldn't be afforded the right to control what they believe is personal to them.
She was my favorite mom because of that! I don't know what else to call it--a "diagnostic" question. She put effort in to figure out how her daughter was feeling.
Oh woah I hadn’t checked this comment in a while I had no idea it had this many likes also YEAH it was so kind..... I was rlly happy one of the parents seemed to get it 🥺🥺
I called this stuff 10 years ago when I saw a bunch of new parents around my same age doing this to their kids. I said “Just wait until these kids are old enough to realize they are essentially being exploited for likes. The lawsuits are going to be astronomical.” It’s finally happening. Hopefully society will figure out a nice compromise when it comes to over sharing their defenseless children.
As a millennial parent I fully understand the repercussions of blasting my child all over social media, I actively guard my child's right to autonomy and anonymity. Friends and family know not to post my child online, some have learned it the hard way. Now that my child is old enough to understand the consequences they often tell people not to post them on social media as well. It's f-ed up how many kids will have issues with employment, security, anonymity, etc... because mom and dad were addicted to likes...smh
i would be heartbroken if my mum felt that memories we share didn’t mean anything unless they were up on social media. it would genuinely feel hurtful.
I can so relate to this. My dad left when I was little. He comes back now and posts all of my recent achievements and gets praise for being a “good dad”.
Little girl: “you shared pictures of me without asking”. Mom: “oh honey, it’s called connecting! I’m just sharing pictures of you so family and friends can see you.” Little girl: “They can call or FaceTime for that.” It’s a sad day when little kids born into this world of social media have more common sense than the adults in their lives. Wow.
I’m glad young people/kids are able to critique these habits still!!! I was worried it would become an irreversible societal norm... a little alarmist on my part but back in 2010 when I saw my relatives and friends handing iPads to their TODDLERS, and recording every minute of their children’s lives, it was definitely a little concerning and weird. Anyways here we are
Mia Meow Of course to you it has to be scripted. But in reality teenagers are smart, children are smart. Why is it a surprise when we are well spoken? Don’t forget Gen Z is the most literate generation to ever exist so far.
that happened to me once about my mom understanding that fake nose rings are not actual piercings and she still forgot to get me some for Christmas :( but I was glad she came to her senses cause she can be a bit of a brick wall sometimes
That's something that i appreciate most about my parents, they are open to debates on certain subjects and they have admitted a lot of times that my perspective as a young individual is important and relevant to them, because we grew up in different times and the world is changing so fast... :)
Telling my mother in law that letting our kids decide and have control about how many and what pictures of them end up online literally ended our relationship with her. She hasn't spoken to us in 6+ years because "if it's not of FB did it even happen? What's the point of spending time with family if you can't share?"
😳🤦🏾♀️ wow! So sorry that it got to that point. Glad you stood up for your children though. Bravo! 👏🏽 Don’t think adults really think about the consequences for children enough. Hope your MIL will see it from a different perspective before it’s too late 🙏🏾.
Imagine being a parent who tells her child that spending time together might as well have not happened if it wasn’t documented on Instagram. WOW. That is wrong on so many levels.
@Jocelyn Anderson Or . . . why wasn't it enough to spend that time with, to connect with, _me?_ Why do you have to use it for validation from strangers before it means something to you?
And she literally said she'd only consider not posting content of her daughter if they "stop taking vacations together and stop having good times together." Holding family time over her daughter's head as a bargaining tool. So incredibly manipulative. If she can't have her way then she wants to find a way to punish her daughter for it. What an ugly heart she has.
@@StarLight-sl9ok yeah, totally. And if you can facetime the granparents, why can't you sent the pictures privately? And how ever did we share pictures and stories about our kids 20-30 years ago, when social media wasn't a thing... I guess ill never know...
@@harshitakaur8896 we'll, the kids who share pictures about themselves have the choise to do so. These kids were not asked if they want their photos shared. About you, you can share what ever you wish. But would you like it if someone shared publicly photos of you on the toilet or took photos of you without your consent at the beach and then shared them online? The entire point is about CONSENT. These kids didn't give their consent to their photos being shared. If these mom's would have asked "is it okay, I put this picture of you on my Facebook?" and the kids would have agreed it would have been fine. But these kids were not given the option to say "no".
The indian mother has no understanding at all. She is clearly using her daughter for attention online. It's sad that those mothers have to be taught about the risk of mindlessly posting things online. Especially if it's pictures of other people.
and the fact that she said "strangers could take pictures of you at the beach and do whatever they want with them" just doesn't really sit right with me because yes it is true but why would she say it like that as if she doesn't care...
I am from India and I can tell you most parents like to show off or boast a ridiculous amount, even at the expense of the feelings of their children. I feel blessed that my parents respect my privacy as I do theirs.
This video made realise that i should be grateful that i have indian parents who do document precious moments but don't over share it and literally ask for consent before sharing. Before i saw this vid, i thought every parent does what my parents do but this video gave me a different perspective to the situation :-)
This video changed my point of view forever. I watched this when it first aired, and my son was 2 at the time. I immediately stopped posting him. I now have 4 children and I do not post them online. This is so eye opening and these parents are DELUSIONAL.
I guess it might be hard to hear. You think you're not doing anything ever to hurt your child, and then to hear that what you saw as you being proud of your child and sharing those photos is actually hurting them. Since it happened with all the parents they might be just shocked during the interview and don't know how to react to it. I am not saying that the parents are right on here. All the children has a right to their privacy.
My husband and I decided that we weren’t going to post our kids. That if we wanted to share pictures with family and friends we would do it through group text.
LadyA728 Exactly!!! I don’t know how the world is so dumbfounded on how else to share photos if not on social media. There’s private messaging for a reason.
My husband and I are the same. If someone is interested in our daughter than they can reach out and ask. A bunch of people I used to know don’t need updates on my child.
I feel bad for Zoya. Based on the discussion, it looks like her mom just concluded the discussion half decently for appearances. I normally give the benefit of the doubt, but she was incredibly unconvincing.
@sm2411 in my home no child is allowed to have a social media until 18. And I guess most of the Indian kids don't even get a personal cellphone to use until they turn 16 - 18 (like when they complete school phase). My mom had me remove one of my pictures cuz she knew the profile is public and it may cause trouble. I am 21 and my mom always checks if I have privacy set to "only friends". Same with so many of my friends. So my question is, why do you feel that Indian parents are that way, its completely opposite pal !! Maybe your place have a different story.
Same goes for cellphone use, specifically using it while driving. It's a problem for both kids and adults, but adults like top pretend like they aren't a part of the problem.
My mother has been very guilty of this ever since Facebook existed. It was very stressful as a socially anxious, low self-esteem kid/teen to have my photos posted online for everyone to see. She cared more about getting attention than she did my feelings and continued to force pictures and post anyways. It's very obvious what the intentions are of these parents, if they just wanted it for private mementos it would be different.
I’m so sorry. I bet it is. I’m 34 and I’ve always had social anxiety, as a result Im very private online. I would be so upset if my parents did that. Sending hugs!!
L.V.C I don’t think they have to be that old m to post the *occasional* photo but when they do get older and if they no longer want you posting photos respect their privacy. I don’t have kids and don’t know if want to post photos online if I do have kids (I hardly post photos of myself lol) but if I did it would be like baby photos and maybe limit who can see to my friends and family.
@@dinkyboss There's no need to post any photos of children online. Those who care about your children can see them in person, on video chat, or by receiving printed photos like in the good old days.
@@Robespierre-lI in fact the law we have in France about pictures and privacy is not that severe as shown in the video. You can indeed, be sentenced to jail when what we call literally "the right to the image" is not respected but that's just in extreme cases. Otherwise, people are simply urged to remove the picture. It depends entirely of the type of situation/picture/people on it. I've seen cases where the parents are urged by law enforcement to remove some photos but I've never seen cases where they are sentenced to jail😉🙂
If they're old enough to have social media themselves, you should absolutely ask them first. However, if you're just posting a cute photo of your two-year old, I think that's okay.
That's the problem. Seeing their children as property or extensions of themselves, and not unique individuals who happen to be at an earlier stage of life. Kids should have the freedom to make their own choices and to experience life instead of being treated like objects.
I used to get so mad when my friends would lazily post an entire camera roll instead of deleting unflattering or downright inappropriate photos in middle and high school. I can’t imagine having to argue with my own parent about this! I feel for these kids, but at least they are showing they can stand their ground.
I thought the 7 year old girl (Lucy)'s mom was more willing to compromise. I know narcissists who wouldn't address the issue if you brought it up to them, or even bother listening to the other point of view, let alone go on a video.
||A bunch of narcissistic parents That’s a pretty heavy word to throw around. They aren’t narcissist. You wouldn’t call them that if you knew one. It’s just they’re humans who refuse to give respect to the child. Simple as that.
I would tend to agree, it's narcissistic. There is no reason why these parents have to post their children pictures online; they can post them on the walls in the privacy of their home. It really CAN put them at risk.
@@chinwenduchinwe586 I agree to an extent that they can put pictures up at home. But I think that many older parents who didn't come into the internet and technology in an organic way, just honestly don't know the long lasting effects of anything online.
That comment about 'if I can't post it on Insta then it never even happened' almost made me throw up in my mouth. She really is so shallow and vapid that she gets ZERO enjoyment out of spending time with her family and creating memories with them. She lives her whole life trying to absorb as much attention and approval from strangers online as she can that she is even willing to post non consensual pictures of her own UNDERAGE daughter in a bikini if it gets her more likes... She is sick in the head and this video is not cute or funny. It's disgusting.
@@varun009 Exactly. Feels like she is stealing her daughter's body in a way and getting some satisfaction from it that she can't get from her own. That's the creepy part to me. If it really is about sharing a memory, why not post a picture of her daughter posing next to a cool landmark or sculpture or something? Why a generic bikini pic from a beach?
Seraphina Ange du six ailes - I’m seeing a lonely mom whose only social life/way of connecting to others is social media (specifically instagram) and i can understand where she’s coming from. I don’t relate, but i understand why her feelings could be so strong about sharing.
Sumaya 99 Aside from the statement being blatantly illogical and shallow (as things and people do actually happen and exist despite many of them not being recorded or posted), she said it in utter disregard to her daughter’s distress and human need for privacy, which added insult to injury as the mother attempted to defend her act of exploitation.
@NillyC the question about her age is in place as this kind of opinion really should be held by people in their teens at most.. certainly it is very questionable when something like that is said by a woman who is raising a child
I felt so sad for the teenage girl when her mom basically told her that spending quality time with her as a family is worthless if she can’t post it to brag on Instagram.
that girl is going to cut her mom out of her life someday, as the mom is completely nuts. "I will think about it." "Really?" "Probably not" I mean, in my heart the girl got up and left the room.
Guys, the Indian mom is a *comedian*. As someone familiar with her material, this interaction was likely staged as a way to get the conversation going.
The Indian mom is something else. Her attitude towards her daughter on camera is disgusting and I can’t imagine what it must be like out of the public eye
@@cassieang1601 what you fail to understand is the severe brainwashing. what you fail to understand is the manipulation. this and worse happens to most of us and we never go to the police. police also have way "bigger" issues than this. Watching them take this seriously would be fun. We belong to our families and they take away all of our agency.
It sincerely shook me when her mom said, "If I can't post it for Insta it's like it didn't even happen." I refuse to believe she doesn't know how ridiculous and immature she sounds. Hopefully seeing herself in this video serves as a wake up call.
Asian culture dictates that the elder is right, you are wrong. Shut up!......that's unfortunately how it is. Any comment or ideology that conflicts with a person older than you is disrespect. I could like tea instead of coffee...tell my parents and because they don't agree on my likes and dislikes I'm being disrespectful 🤷🏽♀️
I’m older than all these kids, but I grew up as mommy-blogging became popular. My mom is a highly intelligent, witty, and hilarious writer, and her blog quickly became quite popular. Both internet strangers and most people my family knew personally read it. I remember getting so SO angry at her for some of the things she would post. Not pictures, but stories and information about myself and my siblings that I found embarrassing and uncomfortable. Even if she finally agreed to take it down, I knew it was too late, and hundreds, if not thousands, of people had already read it. Eventually she gave up blogging and I moved on from our disagreements about it, thinking maybe I was just being a dramatic tweenager. But this video made me realize that it was more than that. My feelings of having my privacy violated were valid. I love my mother and think highly of her, but I wish she had been more concerned about how I felt about her sharing my life. I don’t have children of my own, but I have a niece and nephew. I have never, and will never, post a picture of them without first checking with both them and their parents.
Parents have always share more than children would prefer, both stories and pictures and information. It's the scope that has changed and a growing realization of the autonomy and right to privacy of children.
I dont have children too but my relatives practically created IG accounts for their newborn baby. I dont understand really. They argued it's private, to be shared with family and friends, but it can be done via group chat too. Then the grandmother would upload all media to FB. Call me outdated, but I grew up before social media. My parents wont make a copy of my photos to friends, not even to distant relatives. Why now there is importance to publish the photo everywhere?
@@LeeAnneRMT Exactly, my mom would tell all my life to her friends and it was so embarrassing; I felt violated. There was no internet involved. Now it's those same feeling x100,000; no wonder suicide rates are so high for kids today.
@@dumbphonemom I had a child client come in with their father instead of their mom one day. After their treatment I asked the boy if I could take a selfie with him and text it to his mom. He paused and said no. His father instantly tried to convince him otherwise. I stopped the dad and said clearly. No he has the right to say no and expect us to respect his boundaries.
I think its also a concern about security. I mean you wouldnt tell a stranger on the street, who for all you know could be a child molester, "here is a picture of my kid. She/he goes to this and this and this kindegarten, football practice and bla bla, she/he just started taking the bus by themselves, they go on this bus at this time* and me and my wife work until this time. We went on vacation here and here at this time, so this is our work schedules, this is my childs favourite candy, favourite toy, favourite show etc." *by googling or calling the football club, youll get the exact time and location when the kid practices, take the approximate (if exact is posted) address with reverse image search and write those addresses in on a bus route planner, youll get the exact busses and time when the child will be traveling on their own. Will propably be 3-4 hours until the parents notice the child is missing. Also, people generally dont like strangers, employers, not so close friends etc. seeing pictures of them when they were babys/children. Parents seem to forget that a child isnt their property or an extension of themselves. They are also persons with own thoughts, goals, beliefs and privacy. Dont exploit your child by posting pictures of them for your selfish need of others approval. Its not fair to them now and might hurt them in the future. For a more likely thing that might happen to a child, imagine how many tools you are providing potentional bullies to use against your child. Imagine how easy it is for someone to blackmail your child with "cute" (to them utterly emberrassing) pictures. Children are very easy to gain leverage on by blackmailing with emberrassing pictures. For example Private Nudes of adults are leaked constantly but adults are menally capable of dealing with it without it inpacting their lives too much. Children and teenagers often commit suicide over it. If you just want the grandparents and close friends to see the pictures, make a family whatsapp or discord group and post it there.
Zoya's mom is a sad little narcissist, acting like the victim and shaming her daughter for WANTING TO PROTECT HERSELF. This is what happens when people procreate for purely selfish reasons!!!
Everyone with children had them for selfish reasons. That is just inherent when you bring someone into existence without their consent. So is it really surprising that parents treat children like their property?
I don't know if you watched the whole video or not, and saw that she expresses understanding at the end, but some of y'all have really lost your minds calling everyone a "narcissist". Really inappropriate and not something either of them would likely find constructive.
It's wild how invalidating these adults are about the child's objections to the adult's commodification of their body in front of third parties and strangers for social currency
White shirt mom actually has the nicest reaction eventhough it seems like she doesn't fully understand she tries to, she looks proud that her daughter is capable of thinking critically
Yeah, white shirt mom just doesn't seem aware of the danger and the fact there was a huge facebook leak that DID release people's private photos into the wild. Kid also seems to have mastered the art of offering alternatives, too!
I felt that she was the only one among the three who was really trying to understand what the child was saying .. Others seems to be trying to be defensive ..
I agree. She's the only one who actually is consenting to talk to her child in the future and admits that she is in the wrong even though she may not understand it.
Some parents consider their children as literal object/property of their own. If you cannot respect the privacy and opinion of your own child, what kind of example are you setting for your child? This kind of blatant violation of privacy of ones child should fall under child abuse.
I think alot of parents just expect rules to be followed until 18 and kids dont wanna do chores or be helpful so people whine about it. Once your 18 or living on your own your free but you have to listen to people in their home.
@@swiftstargames871 what does following rules and doing chores do with consenting to having your image posted online? it's a basic boundary and respect that all people should be granted.
my parents won’t let me post pictures of just my face on social media, and these parents are posting pictures of their kids SHIRTLESS and in BIKINIS???
@@wolfzmusic9706 parent here. trolling, doxxing, identity theft, social hacking...yeah. i do not approve of my younger kids posting info online and i do not share their pictures or full names online. Oldest is 27 and more paranoid than me, which is saying something, and his grandmother STILL almost fell for scammers pretending to be him using info pulled off his FRIENDS' Facebook pages.
I’m glad we are talking about this. Not everyone on the internet needs to know my personal business. I don’t even know what all my mom has posted about me and what random people know about my life!!!
remember the old trope of a child being embarassed when their parents show their friends or s/o’s old family photos? that’s what all of these parents are doing. every single day. but instead of friends and s/o’s, it’s with thousands, if not millions, of strangers.
And since it’s digital, it’s not only showing the photo, but giving out ‘the negatives’ too. Every stranger can take the kids photos and do with them as they please.
Yep! I’m 34 and I have a 5 and 7 year old. I deleted my social media accounts 2.5 years ago to protect my kids privacy. I used to share a few photos when they were babies, but as they grew a little older, I didn’t like the idea of it, so I stopped posting their pictures online. We ran into a few problems of our friends and family posting pictures of our kids and tagging me or leaving their pictures of our kids public and without asking for permission and my husband and I had to request for them to remove the photos and explain why we stopped posting their pictures online. This helped a little, but I just eventually ended up deactivating my social media accounts, not only for family privacy but I just felt that social media can be a pretty toxic place. So far it’s worked out great. My husband still has a fb and although he never posts pics of the kids, he can still monitor if someone else does and ask them to remove it if we don’t want it up (sometimes my Mom wants to share a pic) but for the most part, people know we don’t put our kids online like that. We feel that it’s important to preserve their privacy and leave that decision up to them once they are old enough to make that choice for themselves. ❤️
@@CPeetG you’re an awesome mom! 👏🏻 I tried telling that to an old friend, but instead she got angry at me and accused me of shiz. Well, we aren’t friends anymore. Soon enough her kid will tell her the same way these kids told their parents.
These parents are not as aware as the younger generation of all the malice and cruelty of some people online, they seem completely unaware of the risks and when they are told brush it off
I have just about the best parents anyone could ask for but I had to have this conversation with them many times as a kid. I’m in college now and I’ve stopped caring as much about my online footprint but I definitely see this as an increasing problem in the world today. It’s crazy that kids have to be the voice of reason!
As a 24 year old mom, I agree 100% with this, way too many of my "friends" on Facebook over share very personal things about their children and they have people on their friends list they don't even know! A cute baby photo where a child is naked could be stolen in an instant for disgusting things. The school year is about to start and just like last year they'll be posting photos of where their kids go to school, some have even posted who their child's teacher is. Ridiculous.
Hmm.. sharing pictures of naked children is illegal, even if it's the parents doing it, right? What a stupid thing to do. If it's possible to report those pictures i would advice you to as it may save the children from trouble. Do they know that once you post a picture it will stay online forever and you'll have no control over it? It's absolutely possible to go on living without even having ONE picture of you or your kids online! I swear! I think GDPR should prohibit this in Europe but i may be wrong.
My god, how judgemental are you? I mean you are even talking about your friends using quotation marks. There are limits to everything but it seems weird to me that people could kick up such a big fuss over what are effectively family photos when you yourself probably doing the exact same thing that's being complained about in this video.
@@CraigBickerstaff you call me judgmental and say I'm "probably" doing the same as these mom's without even knowing me lmao isn't that judgemental much LOL
@@user-vu2yb1gy4l Wow.You don't see the connection.?? Or you just don't want to.?? SELF ENTITLEMENT. Women trying to live viciously through there daughters. Dance Mons a prime example.
Literally our parents generation is the worse when it comes to technology and privacy. Like my moms always on her phone (she taps it really hard when it “doesn’t work” until something happens) and she ALWAYS posts photos of us without asking. Majority of the time the photos aren’t ones I would approve. She never asks me, she only care about how she looks in the photos. And one time I posted an insta story of her and it barely showed and she went ballistic and MADE ME take it down. Goes to show that she just cares about how she looks or how other people perceive her and us.
That’s my mother. I asked her not to post a pic of me bc i didn’t want people knowing i am pregnant. She did it anyways and when i asked her to take it down she didn’t
JenniferR Exactly, that’s not right. Like it’s like they don’t realize that everybody can see what they post, and no matter what age you are, your parents need to respect you too. A photo of you, is yours. If you say you don’t want it posted on the internet people need to respect that, especially your own parents.
ikr, imagine not respecting your children's wishes to not be put online. My sister will never post any pictures of her son online unless he wants her to.
Dear, I live in Florida. I've seen worse things each and every day. There was literally a 60 year old lady streaking on a major road not too far from where I live. That, and there is an old guy who owns a small plot of land in the middle of my suburb who threatens to shoot anybody that steps on his front lawn.
That 7 year old girl is VERY smart and wise beyond her years. "You didn't ask" Even at her young age she understands consent way better than her own mother, who thinks that the picture isn't a problem just because she looks cute in it. Yes, she might look cute, but that is not an excuse to post something without your child's consent.
"If it's not on insta, it didn't happen." I want to say that your memories, your personal experiences, are always real to yourself. They did happen, whether pictures are taken or not, whether other people know about it or not. You don't have to built your self-respect on other people's approval, you can respect yourself unconditionally, if you want to.
And pictures can be kept privately as they always have been. Posting to social media is not necessary. The Great Hack told us that when kids are 17 they can already have 70,000+ data points being sold about them, with no legal rights to stop it.
Parents truly don’t realize the amount of predators online. Also parents need to realize that when future employers do background checks stuff like this can come up.
it's weird cuz parents get so pressed about their kid posting pictures of themselves and are like "wHaT aBouT pRedAtoRs?!" and "all it takes is one person even if it's your friend to screenshot it or share it and then it's out there forever, etc, etc," but when they post pictures of us, they assume that their pages are somehow immune to predators and their friends would never, ever do something like that.
What angers me so much about this is the public sharing of private moments such as potty training especially of children who refused to defecate while being trained (which is extremely common) and that can obviously be very humiliating
@@fenderstratADHD Parents have been doing this since the camera was invented. Every member of my family has naked photos of me as a kid. It seems kind of weird now that I think of it. I remember my mom gathering all the moms in the kitchen one day to announce I was growing boobs. WTF, MOM!? Parents have always been bananas. But in 2023, we have to really protect each other in these Internet streets.
@@TheErikaShow I had something odd like that happen to me as well, with my father talking to his 40+ year old friends ('old boy' football (soccer for Americans) team and their wives) about me getting period. I was there, right next to him. I felt so disassociated, luckily two of the wives stood up for me and told him off, shamed him. I must have been 12 or so. So sorry it happened to you. I have no comprehension for why anyone in their right mind would put somebody else on the spot like that.
The little girl looked on the verge of tears especially at the start and its both good, and really depressing that she is aware of this kind of this at such a young age.
If a child isnt comfortable having their photo taken, it shouldnt be taken. A child should never be made uncomfortable, and it is the parent's job to ... yknow not make them feel like a piece of property without any agency in unessential things like photos.
When that little girl told her mum "but you didn't ask" I want to take that clip and share that with all of my friends and family. Your children are not your property. Until they can decide what they want online then they should be kept offline.
I think they should just learn how to talk the nessesary precautions online. Keeping them offline does more damage than good really in this digital world. Many people find friends or keep old friends online. Many people realize their dreams by seeing people doing it online. I use online to learn my dream to make movies. Kids going online is safe as long as you teach them how to stay safe. I talk to many strangers online and I know what info not to give them, I know all the traps, I know all the schemes. Of course if they are really young, it's for the best to limit them to soenthing like only UA-cam and Netflix kids, but when they're a teenager, just make sure they know what is dangerous or not. Even though I'm not a parent... I have one rule when teaching someone for myself... Do not show someone how to live and protect them. Teach them how to live and protect themselves because if you don't, they will only fail after you finish protecting them. I may be young, but I was barely sheltered and protect. I was taught to protect myself. When you aren't so commanding and strict, but then you snap and tell them straight to the face the dangerous thing they did, they will listen. The less you speak, the most powerful your words become. Refrain from constant lectures becasue sooner or later it will mean nothing to the person. A powerful serious and short, brutally honest lecture when it is important in rare instancing WILL get them listening.
“So it’s actually about the asking, not about the picture itself?” Take out the word picture and fill in the blank and that statement could apply to a lot of situations.
We have our 1st baby 5 days ago, I had this plan not to share our baby’s any photos publicly in any social media And I’m glad that my wife understood me.
I have just spoke to my 6y old & I was very surprised with her answer! Now I'm not an over sharer anyway with my girl but we've just agreed that when I take photos we will go through them & she can let me know what pictures she is/isn't happy to have me post! I totally get this! xx
The saddest thing is, the parents don't listen to the concerns and wants of their children. If your kid wants to discuss something that is bothering them, take it seriously!
A lot of parents are like this... Mine included. That is why I seek help to my friends and siblings, because I knew my parents won’t listen at all because “children should not question, just listen and respect their parents”. And yes, my parents put me down when I tell them something “Just put up with it!” or “But from this youtube video I watched,...” etc
@@shyhrk Yes, its unfortunate.. even though the parents feel like their doing the best thing. But it's good that you have friends and siblings to share with!
So many people who have kids are such bad parents and should never had reproduced in the first place. It’s scary. They want kids like they want pets or something.
"If it's not on insta - it didn't happen" yikes.
Exactly. I couldn't believe she actually said that SMH
How did the daughter turn out so well with teachings like this?! Ouch.
what does that even mean
Indeed! I would like to add, for all the folks who complain about Millennials on social media, that woman looks like a GenXer.
@@TheMetrored Oh for sure. My parents and aunts who are all baby boomers spend their entire day on social media. They post all their personal information and have no privacy settings on their pages, its all just public. 🤦🏽♂️
Just create a public account and start putting weird pictures of your parent on it. their opinion will change sooo fast
Excellent
That’s a good one.
They will rebuttal with “I’m the parent, you are the child” these people see as though they own their children and have the right to do as they please.
Make sure they are pictures where they look fat and have no makeup on
Omg yes!!!! Lol
When a child has to teach parents about consent we have issues.
We been having to teach parents this
THANK YOU
@@sirenthomas4595 for like... all of human history.
That’s true but... according to the law children cannot consent to anything, so the parents do that for them so... they aren’t in the right but they aren’t in the wrong either...
Tea in Korea sure, they might not be in the _legal_ wrong, but the law doesn't define our morals.
I grew up with my mom posting pictures of me and my brother without permission. We started telling her to stop when we were 12, our wishes were never respected. Instead, she would lie to us, and we had to stop allowing her to take pictures of us altogether. She still takes pictures of us behind our back. It's disgusting how parents treat their kids like they aren't human beings with their own wants and boundaries.
Your mom was wrong for doing that. I just wanted to validate that from someone out here shocked to hear these parents defending themselves. Um, take all the photos and vids you want of yourself (I mean, maybe wake up and spend more time with your therapist too), but don't put underage humans out there for anyone to see. So gross, using their children for their own need for attention.
You're right.
Veto power for kids AND special accounts where parents have to deposit money made from revenue sharing content that includes them.
Omg same
Parents can be so stupid. With ai and deep fakes this is going to be a whole other issue when sick people make ai pornography out of these kids photos.
Someone should ask these moms how they'd feel if their kids took photos of them and posted them without permission. No makeup, wearing something unflattering, making a weird face? Too bad, mom. But it's cool, it's just my closest friends judging you.
That's probably the way to make them understand. Us kids just being indignant about the control parents exert on us wouldn't really work
Nice! Yes! Good point
Agreed. There's kids should out it it the test. Make a private account with fake followers or something and do exactly the same thing they're doing. See how they feel about it.
Bruce Dunn I’ve had my son do my makeup, who cares?!
my mom put a picture of my butt on facebook on christmas before
“You didn’t ask” what else needs to be said?
Rebecca T. Children can’t provide consent to anything under the law.
@@hussainalkatheri7427 this noooooot about law. Law does not ever dictate morals-WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONSENT. The point... It flew over your head.
Adja Ndiaye The state determines our rights tho. Our morals are irrelevant in society.
...how do you think laws get written then? do you think legislators just roll a magic 8-ball and go “oh I guess murder is wrong now. time to go home guys.” no, laws are always playing catch-up to morals. if there’s a gap in the legal system you fix it, you don’t go, “well it’s not a law so I guess that’s alright.”
Adja Ndiaye so your the person to say that I need to ask my baby for consent to change its diaper? I’m just being realistic... like do you not think that after all the caring your parents gave you they don’t deserve any right? Just the financial cost of raising a child is expensive I’d atleast say your trading some rights so that you can have food and a roof over your head. I also don’t agree with what they said about it causing credit card numbers to be stolen there is a difference between being stupid and sharing your children’s lives online.
Parents blaming their kids for having social media addictions. Meanwhile...
right like where y’all think we got it from😭
Fr
In this generation there is a huge issue of social media addiction so calling that out is justified. Not that the older generation is any better. Just don't make it a blame game ;p
Factss
Lol
When I was 12, I asked my mom if I could share a picture of my face online, and she was against it because she didn't know much about the internet and was afraid of the dangers. Kinda weird to see that nowadays it's more the other way round.
my mom was the same. growing up, i was always frustrated with her that she kept me away from the internet. she would post about me on facebook, but very rarely, if ever, with pictures. just storytelling, really. but i would get frustrated bc i wasn't allowed on youtube or anything like that, and it was hard to make friends at school. while i still think there could've been a happy medium, i'm glad she wasn't like these toxic moms, and i'm goad she restricted my internet instead of setting me free on there. the internet is a dangerous place, especially if you don't know that
my mom did both lol. i wasn’t allowed to have fandom accounts on instagram but would post me without my knowledge for strangers to see. make it make sense lol
“If it’s not on insta, it didn’t even happen”
How immature can a grown adult be?
It’s because there millennials. (Ages 20-40) welcome to the new parenting age.
1st gen of parents who are dealing with this, and i think alot over do it, some try too hard to keep up. I have kids and nobody had to tell me to minimize their social media presence till they are old enough to consent. Alot of parents brag about their 6 yr old having instagram and facebook profiles and when i look at them.like why a 6yr old need that they look at me like im crazy...
@@gem6105 She's actually 44 and she's a lawyer-turned-comedian with this sort of blunt humour so I think half of what she was saying was trying to give that dead pan humour but clearly it didn't come through well in this setting which was supposed to be a serious video on a real issue and she should've chosen other words lol.
I gasped when the mom said that.
@@snflwrgld well then I guess it’s just the media being typical prying off of questionable comments 👀
this isn’t an argument about oversharing: it’s an argument about respecting people’s boundries and respecting your children as PEOPLE.
Findlay M Walker
apparently children aren’t “people” to a lot of adults
we seem to forget that a lot
sure, children are children. but children are also people with rights. not dolls.
Except that YOUR children are being manipulated by forces outside of your home pretty much 24/7.
While, I agree about not posting photos of one's self or other people online for privacy and safety reasons, I completely disagree with the corrupt media posing as arbitrator of familial affairs.
The media through feminism has pretty much destroyed the male/female relationship. We certainly don't want them to destroy the mother/child relationship.
Beede Bawng The attitudes of these parents are what will destroy the parent/child relationship.
Yup. So true.
"You're mine. I own you."
- Mom, on more occasions than I can count
The mom said “if it’s not on insta it didn’t even happen” I have no words
Chanah-Danae James cringe
I read this comment as she was saying it😂
The mom seemed like she was trying to guilt trip her.
Many parents say that nowadays. It's sickening, to be honest. It's plainly unbelievable how social media was just introduced less than 15 years ago (I'm not exactly sure how accurate this is), yet so many parents are obsessed with forcing memories into the public world.
that sounds like a teenager. sad
I posted pictures of my daughter until I heard my friends talking about getting permission from their kids to post. I can’t believe it didn’t occur to me before! I asked my 5 year old that day and she said she didn’t want me to post pictures. The emotional pull to post and get “likes” was hard to give up but I’m glad I did. She needs to know I respect her and will protect her, not exploit her.
good on you mama. there are so many predators on the internet- by NOT posting her, you are doing her a huge favor!
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She is too young to know what she is consenting to.
@@surlespasdondine and yet she still didn't give consent
This just shows how so many parents think that their children are just extensions of themselves, and therefore do not treat them as individuals with individual rights and wants.
Because you know they would NEVER post a friend's pictures without their permission. Or if a friend asked them to take a picture down, they would do it without hesitation.
I've always disliked how parents think they're so entitled to their kid's autonomy and agency. Especially of their kid's image. Hated all the clothes my mom chose for me.
We have a social media blackout on my child.
L C I agree, and it sort of reminds me of My Sister’s Keeper, even though it’s an extreme example. But it’s similar to me in the sense that the parent(s) don’t consider what’s best for their child, but more so what they want.
S S 5
That’s the definition of a narcissistic parent.
“If it’s not on insta, it didn’t even happen”. That’s honestly sickening
Philleen S yea she crazy
Life through social media, steals life itself.
Narcissist
Philleen S cringe worthy
I was really surprised the mom said that. That really sounded like something a 14 y/o would say.
If the Indian girl's mom were my mom, I'd go crazy. She said "ok, I'll stop", but her choice of words just sounds so martyr-ey to me. That drives me crazy.
The mental gymnastics on that one was cringe AF
i feel bad for these types of parents because they don’t realize how ridiculous they sound
All indian mums are like that
like most south Asian parents lol
Indian moms. Indian parents in general. They see kids as property.
When my son turned 13 he started asking me not to post pictures of him. After that point, whenever I felt an uncontrollable urge to post something where he was the sole focus of the photo, I asked permission. He shot me down so many times. As a mom, I was proud of him. This is his boundary and I am willing to listen.
The youngest in this series has such a wise presence about her.
Lawrence Chen I feel like her and her mom have at least set a healthy line of communication and she’ll be more considerate of social media in regards to her daughter. Sometimes we do need someone to sit us down to let us know we’ve been bothered by something when it didn’t seem so harmful before.
She's smart
Her mom is a professor in NYC
The little lady is SO smart and astute!
people take young kids as if they were stupid but they can understand (sometimes even better than their own parents) most things.
Th little girl’s mom was the best, she was very open to listening to her child and acknowledged that she should’ve asked and agreed to do so in the future
Olivia I think that’s why the little girl is so eloquent. She probably has a very nurturing environment.
That little girl is so cute💖😭
Yeah. I think it’s amazing that a seven year old can have a conversation with their mom as shown by the video.
She’s the best! She’s actually my teacher and she’s by far the most open and understanding person
I love how her mom treated her as an equal but then we have the 18 year old who’s mom wouldn’t even consider his privacy and I’m like
the insta lady needs to reevaluate how she makes memories.
Why? I don't see any problems with it.
Social media doesn't last forever. Remember Myspace?
RanchoFundo but the internet does
@RanchoFundo...Myspace pictures and profiles are literally still online.
@@somemorre over the last few years MySpace has been deleting old profiles as they're gradually taking down their servers, about half the accounts made before 2008 have been stripped
Celebrities need to be held accountable for this too. I hate it when I see a celebrity parent talking about something embarrassing their kid did on a talk show.
You are absolutely right....
i'm following this couple, and they're having a baby soon. every time they talk about the pregnancy, the comments are like "can't wait to see the baby!" and all. but sometimes they talk about how they will never post their kids until they're old enough to give educated consent, and when i heard that i was so happy. they're setting a beautiful precedent!
Like Kelly Ripa talking about her daughter Lola, I think her daughter tried to tell her to stop, but today she was still talking about her
Parents: you can get kidnapped and lost so easily, don’t leave the house, and don’t talk to people online, all those online friends are proly predators.
Also parents: this.
Henry Mueller no comments, this is uncontroversial
But also most parents accounts are private and are only followed by family and close family friends
TheBuildingFreak Watch the whole video. If the post something truly interesting/weird/bad, anyone can screenshot it and re-share it. And private accounts aren’t that much better, because why would you want your mother’s college roommate to see random pictures of you?
TheBuildingFreak
Y’know most crimes are usually done by someone you know in your life . . .
People could do anything with those photos . . .
@@TheBuildingFreakif the child had a private account and posted a photo of their mother in a bikini in an unflattering angle for all of their friends from school to see, would there be the same energy? (It.s okaay, right? Just friends from school, the kid knows them)
Also. The account of the parents has people that THEY are "close" with , not the child (tbh, it.s mostly about bragging, not about sharing info with close ones).
Also many predators or people with ill intent are usually friends any family of the parent. I remember, that when I was a minor, I was ok with kids my age knowing my deepest darkest secrets, but not toxic family "friends".
The Indian daughter is one of the most mature teenagers I’ve ever seen, and her mom is one of the MOST immature adults I’ve ever seen.
its sad but a lot of mature kids are only that way because of immature parents. the kids have to raise and teach themselves.
@@citrus7745 and the polar opposite too. People with immature parents can also end up bring extreme versions of their own parents. It’s sad
you get it's all staged right?
Yeah basically when you have to raise your own parents because they're used to an older more immature narcissistic world without smartphones that hold the entire world's information, it tends to be a very sad state of affairs.
@@backintimealwyn5736 💯
The Indian mom is like a parody of Indian moms. Saying this as an Indian child.
Really. It's sad
I just can’t believe she actually listened. I would’ve been crucified lmao
I would have been gaslighted to the point of tears. Luckily, my parents are definitely not active on social media.
My parents think they are gonna get hacked and murdered if they post online
Hack means both way btw
Yup
“It’s because of how aware I am of the implications of the digital footprint…” Good for her! This girl is going places in life and has more sense than the majority of adults, apparently 🙄
especially her mom
Parents can be so stupid. With ai and deep fakes this is going to be a whole other issue when sick people make ai pornography out of these kids photos.
The parent’s behaviour is triggering for me. Young people shouldn’t have to fight for their right to privacy with their own parents.
That’s why I left my mom.
True, young people shouldn't have to fight for their PrIvACy with their own parents, as a latino mom that I am, as long as they live under my roof and eat from my food I'm the boss here. Unless the parents are putting them at REAL risk by sharing inappropriate pictures or very private information I don't think they have the right to complain.
My husband is Belgian and we live in both countries: Belgium and France and here is also up to us to decided what to share or not, it's not about a kid not wanting pictures, is about being inappropriate or embarrassing pictures of ANYONE, but minors will have a huge work to try to prove their parents have no right to do so. Good luck to them. But them again, we have teachers beheaded while giving a class on Freedom of Speech, which shows how much the country knows how to deal with it's issues.
My son is 4 years old and I only have 3 pictures of him on my instagram (one per year on his birthday, one year I didn't post), I dont use much social media and I dont like to share, but that is me. This things are only for white middle class brats or kids brain washed by whites. We would tell our latino/black moms what to do or not to do and we would lose a tooth. Meanwhile those are the moms that are actually well cared and beloved until they die and we take all good care of them when they are old. White parents that do all by the books are VERY OFTEN left to die in asylums forgotten by their families. Here in Europe almost all white parents die alone despise giving all PrIvACy to their kids. I'm not raising a white Brat, here is latino and my family will work as a latino family does.
I agree I was genuinely triggered as well, it’s an extremely horrific feeling to know that you have no control when parents feel they own you
@@allwhatilove914 It really isn't a matter of race. It causes conflict and that is undeniable. You say your children have no right to complain and that and as long as they live under your roof you are the boss. That proves that you don't see them as people but as things you control. Imagine being put in that position yourself if you even can. I'm sure if you were a victim of this you wouldn't draw the conclusions that you did. Your opinion is clearly one made without though or contemplation as shown by your racist undertones, over possessiveness and inability to make sense of information given to you. You also latch on to tradition blindly believing that just because your mother might have drawn the conclusions that you draw now that they are valid. Honestly it's people like you who shouldn't be afforded the right to control what they believe is personal to them.
I agree. This is child abuse.
“If it’s not on insta, it didn’t even happen” that is exactly the kind of thing that adults paint teenagers saying, yet look where we are now.
Online you can take a screenshot of things So it very much happens
Parents tend to project onto their kids a lot, unfortunately :(
I have no Insta ..I guess, I don't exist :)
yup.
Dude this 3 parents out of millions chill. It's more parents not worrying about social media photos
When Lucy’s mom said “oh so it’s more about the asking for permission than the actual picture” that was nice to see she understood
Alanya Sloane I KNOW I loved that part. So sweet
She’s doing the right thing
She brings her points respectfully and tires to understand her child and her points
She was my favorite mom because of that! I don't know what else to call it--a "diagnostic" question. She put effort in to figure out how her daughter was feeling.
Oh woah I hadn’t checked this comment in a while I had no idea it had this many likes also YEAH it was so kind..... I was rlly happy one of the parents seemed to get it 🥺🥺
Sometines, it is about the picture though.
I called this stuff 10 years ago when I saw a bunch of new parents around my same age doing this to their kids. I said “Just wait until these kids are old enough to realize they are essentially being exploited for likes. The lawsuits are going to be astronomical.” It’s finally happening. Hopefully society will figure out a nice compromise when it comes to over sharing their defenseless children.
I'm feeling really grateful right now that my parents aren't interested enough in social media to give me this kinda grief
My immigrant parents can barely use a computer, so grateful for that fact 😂
Same
As a millennial parent I fully understand the repercussions of blasting my child all over social media, I actively guard my child's right to autonomy and anonymity. Friends and family know not to post my child online, some have learned it the hard way. Now that my child is old enough to understand the consequences they often tell people not to post them on social media as well. It's f-ed up how many kids will have issues with employment, security, anonymity, etc... because mom and dad were addicted to likes...smh
@@sphere6258 you are a great parent !!
@@angelicasysnila5476 Thanks, just looking out for my kiddo.
thank god my mom doesnt understand how to even use a computer
😂😂
l s
or in less wealthy countries.
l s Your mom is smart and maybe just pretended she doesn't understand.
You're a lucky one. I can ask my mom not to put pictures on any social media an i check 3 days later and there it is.
Yo same my parents from immigrants from india SKSKSKKDKDKD my dad was just asking me how to make a email
Yikes the mom who thinks if it wasn’t on Instagram it didn’t happen.
Ugh. So gross. I can’t believe she wasn’t embarrassed to say that!
I feel like there are too many people who feel like this these days. If it is not promoted on their social media then it didn't really happen. So sad.
i would be heartbroken if my mum felt that memories we share didn’t mean anything unless they were up on social media. it would genuinely feel hurtful.
@@kimcheezy3433 smh. That's all I can say.
Mother of the year! Smh
I can so relate to this. My dad left when I was little. He comes back now and posts all of my recent achievements and gets praise for being a “good dad”.
🤦♀️
Don’t let him do that. He doesn’t deserve that
Little girl: “you shared pictures of me without asking”.
Mom: “oh honey, it’s called connecting! I’m just sharing pictures of you so family and friends can see you.”
Little girl: “They can call or FaceTime for that.”
It’s a sad day when little kids born into this world of social media have more common sense than the adults in their lives. Wow.
I’m glad young people/kids are able to critique these habits still!!! I was worried it would become an irreversible societal norm... a little alarmist on my part but back in 2010 when I saw my relatives and friends handing iPads to their TODDLERS, and recording every minute of their children’s lives, it was definitely a little concerning and weird. Anyways here we are
Screw this kid, obviously being brainwashed by other adults
Exactly. It’s so sad.
But it was really nice that her mom seemed like she was listening and understood what her child was saying about consent.
ikr!! or they could just send the pictures in a private group chat instead of plastering them all over the internet
Wow. Intelligent and mature kids with parents who are neither. Poor kids.
Celia Lovett it’s crazy considering parents are always so paranoid about what their kids do online they don’t even stop to look at themselves.
I'm sure it was scripted. No normal kid talks like that...and with print outs of statistics...not even our journalists back up their claims like that.
Mia Meow
Of course to you it has to be scripted. But in reality teenagers are smart, children are smart. Why is it a surprise when we are well spoken? Don’t forget Gen Z is the most literate generation to ever exist so far.
@@tomatotortilla Well, the teens may well be that smart. But the five-year-old? Hm.
Celia Lovett
One thousandth like
“Yeah, that’s true. That’s a really good point.” wow imagine your parent actually taking your opinion into account... crazy
that happened to me once about my mom understanding that fake nose rings are not actual piercings and she still forgot to get me some for Christmas :( but I was glad she came to her senses cause she can be a bit of a brick wall sometimes
Would've been nice.
@Linety 27 they could be.
And NOT being accused of disrespecting them!!! For those of us with foreign parents that is a BIG deal!
That's something that i appreciate most about my parents, they are open to debates on certain subjects and they have admitted a lot of times that my perspective as a young individual is important and relevant to them, because we grew up in different times and the world is changing so fast... :)
Telling my mother in law that letting our kids decide and have control about how many and what pictures of them end up online literally ended our relationship with her. She hasn't spoken to us in 6+ years because "if it's not of FB did it even happen? What's the point of spending time with family if you can't share?"
😳🤦🏾♀️ wow! So sorry that it got to that point. Glad you stood up for your children though. Bravo! 👏🏽 Don’t think adults really think about the consequences for children enough. Hope your MIL will see it from a different perspective before it’s too late 🙏🏾.
Imagine being a parent who tells her child that spending time together might as well have not happened if it wasn’t documented on Instagram. WOW. That is wrong on so many levels.
@Jocelyn Anderson even in your memory should be enough for it to be of worth!
@Jocelyn Anderson
Or . . . why wasn't it enough to spend that time with, to connect with, _me?_ Why do you have to use it for validation from strangers before it means something to you?
If my mom told me that, I'd fully cry.
And she literally said she'd only consider not posting content of her daughter if they "stop taking vacations together and stop having good times together." Holding family time over her daughter's head as a bargaining tool. So incredibly manipulative. If she can't have her way then she wants to find a way to punish her daughter for it. What an ugly heart she has.
A sad byproduct of “pics or it didn’t happen”.
Even the youngest kid was like “you didn’t ask” 😢
She makes a good point about sharing with grandparents but she should create an online album that’s for family members only.
I wonder how old she is, because she sounds more articulate than she looks.
@@StarLight-sl9ok yeah, totally. And if you can facetime the granparents, why can't you sent the pictures privately? And how ever did we share pictures and stories about our kids 20-30 years ago, when social media wasn't a thing... I guess ill never know...
Kids can share whatever they want but parents can't. Weird. They'll know When they have Kids of their own!
@@harshitakaur8896 we'll, the kids who share pictures about themselves have the choise to do so. These kids were not asked if they want their photos shared. About you, you can share what ever you wish. But would you like it if someone shared publicly photos of you on the toilet or took photos of you without your consent at the beach and then shared them online?
The entire point is about CONSENT. These kids didn't give their consent to their photos being shared. If these mom's would have asked "is it okay, I put this picture of you on my Facebook?" and the kids would have agreed it would have been fine. But these kids were not given the option to say "no".
That Indian mom is seriously getting on my nerves
All Indian mom's get on their kid's nerves!!!!😂😂
batgirl_brunette yea I don’t know if she knows family albums still a thing lol
Very sad. Her daughter should have a choice of what pictures of her that are shared. Especially bikini pics. 🤦🏾♀️
Parents: “ugh kids these days are so obsessed with social media”
Also parents: “if I can’t document it on Instagram at may as well have not happened”
The indian mother has no understanding at all. She is clearly using her daughter for attention online. It's sad that those mothers have to be taught about the risk of mindlessly posting things online. Especially if it's pictures of other people.
and the fact that she said "strangers could take pictures of you at the beach and do whatever they want with them"
just doesn't really sit right with me because yes it is true but why would she say it like that as if she doesn't care...
And when she said " if it isn't on insta , it didn't happen" 👁️👄👁️
I am from India and I can tell you most parents like to show off or boast a ridiculous amount, even at the expense of the feelings of their children. I feel blessed that my parents respect my privacy as I do theirs.
This video made realise that i should be grateful that i have indian parents who do document precious moments but don't over share it and literally ask for consent before sharing. Before i saw this vid, i thought every parent does what my parents do but this video gave me a different perspective to the situation :-)
for real! the culture is always about what others think :(
The only argument from the parents is “Everyone does it and you looked cute” the main argument against that is “you’re disrespecting my privacy”
Amanda it's the double fault : just because someone else does it, doesn't mean it's ok
That's a narcissist making justifications for their behavior.
My mom did this to me all the time growing up.
Amanda THISSSS!!!!
The counter agreement would be
YOU WANT PRIVACY
GET YOUR OWN DANM HOUSE
😂😂😂 gets me every time
it physically made me cringe when that mom said “if it’s not on insta, i didn’t happen.” and i thought we were the ones obsessed with ours phones...
Vishal Jindal very true
It’s always my dad saying we’re on our phones too much when he’s on his constantly
Yea that’s where it got me too..
This video changed my point of view forever. I watched this when it first aired, and my son was 2 at the time. I immediately stopped posting him. I now have 4 children and I do not post them online. This is so eye opening and these parents are DELUSIONAL.
Notice how every single one of these parents is ignoring their child's wishes and completely denying they're in the wrong. So disappointing
ok, completely denying is a stretch and a half
The mum of the wee girl seemed to understand whenever they talked about it, but the other two oof
I guess it might be hard to hear. You think you're not doing anything ever to hurt your child, and then to hear that what you saw as you being proud of your child and sharing those photos is actually hurting them. Since it happened with all the parents they might be just shocked during the interview and don't know how to react to it.
I am not saying that the parents are right on here. All the children has a right to their privacy.
I agree. Defensive af it's vile
Well one it’s parents being ignorant and two parents thinking their kid is ignorant and thinking they know better
My husband and I decided that we weren’t going to post our kids. That if we wanted to share pictures with family and friends we would do it through group text.
Thats awesome. Thats what I might do too.
amazing
LadyA728 Exactly!!! I don’t know how the world is so dumbfounded on how else to share photos if not on social media. There’s private messaging for a reason.
My husband and I are the same. If someone is interested in our daughter than they can reach out and ask. A bunch of people I used to know don’t need updates on my child.
Actually? That’s great!
I report my moms photos of me when i dont like them
Big power move
Grace Merritt lol this is a smart idea tho
GOOD!!! Someone has to hold her accountable since she clearly won't do it herself.
LMAO ME TOO
Does it really get taken down? I would love this
Some of the parents not acknowledging their children’s feelings is part of our problem.
The Indian mom... well glad the kid turned out well....
I feel bad for Zoya. Based on the discussion, it looks like her mom just concluded the discussion half decently for appearances. I normally give the benefit of the doubt, but she was incredibly unconvincing.
I feel the exact same way. 😭
Well she's Indian, I'm too, and believe me there are about hundred picture of me just looking sad posted bcoz I just don't want them to post
@@duaamishra4908 I’m so sorry 😭
Aw thanks❤
@sm2411 in my home no child is allowed to have a social media until 18. And I guess most of the Indian kids don't even get a personal cellphone to use until they turn 16 - 18 (like when they complete school phase). My mom had me remove one of my pictures cuz she knew the profile is public and it may cause trouble. I am 21 and my mom always checks if I have privacy set to "only friends". Same with so many of my friends. So my question is, why do you feel that Indian parents are that way, its completely opposite pal !!
Maybe your place have a different story.
*When the younger generations gets bashed for social media but adult are was worse*
We are on it a lot but don’t post much they post 24/7 sometimes
Same goes for cellphone use, specifically using it while driving. It's a problem for both kids and adults, but adults like top pretend like they aren't a part of the problem.
Kira ʔ•̫͡•ʕ it’s classic projection. They blame us for things they are doing.
Truth.
My mother has been very guilty of this ever since Facebook existed. It was very stressful as a socially anxious, low self-esteem kid/teen to have my photos posted online for everyone to see. She cared more about getting attention than she did my feelings and continued to force pictures and post anyways. It's very obvious what the intentions are of these parents, if they just wanted it for private mementos it would be different.
I’m so sorry. I bet it is. I’m 34 and I’ve always had social anxiety, as a result Im very private online. I would be so upset if my parents did that. Sending hugs!!
I agree with the French law.
Also unless you've got permission from your child don't post! Simply wait till their old enough to understand the concept
L.V.C I don’t think they have to be that old m to post the *occasional* photo but when they do get older and if they no longer want you posting photos respect their privacy. I don’t have kids and don’t know if want to post photos online if I do have kids (I hardly post photos of myself lol) but if I did it would be like baby photos and maybe limit who can see to my friends and family.
So every photo you see of someone when they are young is actually from the past. Kinda like the stars. We see the light that is years old.
@@dinkyboss There's no need to post any photos of children online. Those who care about your children can see them in person, on video chat, or by receiving printed photos like in the good old days.
@@Robespierre-lI in fact the law we have in France about pictures and privacy is not that severe as shown in the video. You can indeed, be sentenced to jail when what we call literally "the right to the image" is not respected but that's just in extreme cases. Otherwise, people are simply urged to remove the picture.
It depends entirely of the type of situation/picture/people on it. I've seen cases where the parents are urged by law enforcement to remove some photos but I've never seen cases where they are sentenced to jail😉🙂
If they're old enough to have social media themselves, you should absolutely ask them first. However, if you're just posting a cute photo of your two-year old, I think that's okay.
Parents: consent is necessary
Parents: your my child. I can do what I want
This attitude of some people I know kills me.and I can't argue with those adults because they are older than me.🙄🙄
And then when you tell them that consent is necessary they just go “bUt iM thE pArEnT”
Yes. Very true. Children has the same rights. They are human
That's the problem. Seeing their children as property or extensions of themselves, and not unique individuals who happen to be at an earlier stage of life. Kids should have the freedom to make their own choices and to experience life instead of being treated like objects.
Exactly, it called being the authority figure in your life like a parent is supposed to be.
When a 7 year-old has to teach her mom about privacy..
At least her mom got the message
You know it was scripted.
@@LL-wu5ui yeah I feel the 7 yr old girls part was super scripted lol but still gives us something to think about
The 7 yo did not bring her mom into this 🤣
I used to get so mad when my friends would lazily post an entire camera roll instead of deleting unflattering or downright inappropriate photos in middle and high school. I can’t imagine having to argue with my own parent about this! I feel for these kids, but at least they are showing they can stand their ground.
5 minutes of parents pretending there's no such thing as "consent"
Only when it involves their children (which makes it creepier...)
A bunch of narcissistic parents avoiding their children’s feelings 🙄
I thought the 7 year old girl (Lucy)'s mom was more willing to compromise. I know narcissists who wouldn't address the issue if you brought it up to them, or even bother listening to the other point of view, let alone go on a video.
Agreed. Total narcissistic behavior.
||A bunch of narcissistic parents
That’s a pretty heavy word to throw around. They aren’t narcissist. You wouldn’t call them that if you knew one. It’s just they’re humans who refuse to give respect to the child. Simple as that.
I would tend to agree, it's narcissistic. There is no reason why these parents have to post their children pictures online; they can post them on the walls in the privacy of their home. It really CAN put them at risk.
@@chinwenduchinwe586 I agree to an extent that they can put pictures up at home. But I think that many older parents who didn't come into the internet and technology in an organic way, just honestly don't know the long lasting effects of anything online.
This is insane. The Indian mom is such a womanchild.
A definite Auntie!
It’s like people can violate your privacy so do I I am like 🤨🧐what’s wrong with that woman
That comment about 'if I can't post it on Insta then it never even happened' almost made me throw up in my mouth. She really is so shallow and vapid that she gets ZERO enjoyment out of spending time with her family and creating memories with them. She lives her whole life trying to absorb as much attention and approval from strangers online as she can that she is even willing to post non consensual pictures of her own UNDERAGE daughter in a bikini if it gets her more likes...
She is sick in the head and this video is not cute or funny. It's disgusting.
@@biggusy25 agreed. Then again, poor thing can't exactly post pictures of herself in a bikini, or, God forbid, her husband in a speedo.
@@varun009 Exactly. Feels like she is stealing her daughter's body in a way and getting some satisfaction from it that she can't get from her own.
That's the creepy part to me. If it really is about sharing a memory, why not post a picture of her daughter posing next to a cool landmark or sculpture or something? Why a generic bikini pic from a beach?
When the young girl said you did not ask that's it. No more questions asked.
This goes to all parents who created social media account on the behalf of their children/the moment the child born...
Yeah it's a bit creepy and same with bath pic of there kids who does that anyways
Not to mention it's super basic lol
*cough cough* the labrant family *cough* ace family
ilove2929 exactly. It's like parents see their kids as accessories to make their outfit look better the second they're born. Not normal or healthy.
Shoutout to my dad who made me and my brother email adresses with 'first + last name' and 'initial + last name' though.
“If it’s not on insta, it didn’t even happen”
Lady, how old are you???
Seraphina Ange du six ailes - I’m seeing a lonely mom whose only social life/way of connecting to others is social media (specifically instagram) and i can understand where she’s coming from. I don’t relate, but i understand why her feelings could be so strong about sharing.
Someone who behaves like that is no “lady.”
Rhythmic Elegance huh? ik her statement was odd but how does it make her less of a ”lady"
Sumaya 99 Aside from the statement being blatantly illogical and shallow (as things and people do actually happen and exist despite many of them not being recorded or posted), she said it in utter disregard to her daughter’s distress and human need for privacy, which added insult to injury as the mother attempted to defend her act of exploitation.
@NillyC the question about her age is in place as this kind of opinion really should be held by people in their teens at most.. certainly it is very questionable when something like that is said by a woman who is raising a child
“oh so it’s about the asking?”...so basically a little girl just had to teach her mom about consent.
Ok since she is 7 maybe she was trying to set herself as an example of what not to do idk but it can also be that
That little girl was way smarter than her mom. All these kids were.
This, here is so important. I have a kid and I have never shared a single picture. My hubby and I decided early on that privacy is the most important.
"But strangers can take photos of you (on the beach) ..." yes they can, but they shouldn't.
"somebody else could do things you don't like therefore I can knowingly do things you don't like"
That's some logic for ya. 🙃
@@mdc47 Omg you just explain so well how mess up and oof
Ken Gonzales and if they do, it'll most definitely end with me confronting them; and chances are it'll end violent
In some states (like California) it's actually illegal
It's illegal to take pictures of a person without consent.
I felt so sad for the teenage girl when her mom basically told her that spending quality time with her as a family is worthless if she can’t post it to brag on Instagram.
Yeah and how she doesn’t stop for her child’s protection but because it’s aggravating
She doesn't care about spending quality time with her child, she only cares about the clout.
Yeah so immature of the mom
that girl is going to cut her mom out of her life someday, as the mom is completely nuts. "I will think about it." "Really?" "Probably not" I mean, in my heart the girl got up and left the room.
Guys, the Indian mom is a *comedian*. As someone familiar with her material, this interaction was likely staged as a way to get the conversation going.
The Indian mom is something else. Her attitude towards her daughter on camera is disgusting and I can’t imagine what it must be like out of the public eye
queen_ nayerie at 18 I would be outa there
@@purple00k not something that's usually possible in our culture.
Zahra Ismail but possible by law
@@cassieang1601 what you fail to understand is the severe brainwashing. what you fail to understand is the manipulation. this and worse happens to most of us and we never go to the police. police also have way "bigger" issues than this. Watching them take this seriously would be fun. We belong to our families and they take away all of our agency.
@@cherriesvu same
Man my parents are really careful about safety and kids and they're very awake and aware and I'm very grateful for that 😭🙏🙏🙏
Is Zoya the parent?? Her mom is being EXTREMELY immature.
That is an asian parent for you
It sincerely shook me when her mom said, "If I can't post it for Insta it's like it didn't even happen." I refuse to believe she doesn't know how ridiculous and immature she sounds. Hopefully seeing herself in this video serves as a wake up call.
Lol Some parents can't accept that what they were doing is wrong or is making their kid uncomfortable....
Asian culture dictates that the elder is right, you are wrong. Shut up!......that's unfortunately how it is. Any comment or ideology that conflicts with a person older than you is disrespect. I could like tea instead of coffee...tell my parents and because they don't agree on my likes and dislikes I'm being disrespectful 🤷🏽♀️
@@Its_Me_Ashi_ nahh she's just an idiotic parent
I’m older than all these kids, but I grew up as mommy-blogging became popular. My mom is a highly intelligent, witty, and hilarious writer, and her blog quickly became quite popular. Both internet strangers and most people my family knew personally read it. I remember getting so SO angry at her for some of the things she would post. Not pictures, but stories and information about myself and my siblings that I found embarrassing and uncomfortable. Even if she finally agreed to take it down, I knew it was too late, and hundreds, if not thousands, of people had already read it. Eventually she gave up blogging and I moved on from our disagreements about it, thinking maybe I was just being a dramatic tweenager. But this video made me realize that it was more than that. My feelings of having my privacy violated were valid. I love my mother and think highly of her, but I wish she had been more concerned about how I felt about her sharing my life.
I don’t have children of my own, but I have a niece and nephew. I have never, and will never, post a picture of them without first checking with both them and their parents.
Parents have always share more than children would prefer, both stories and pictures and information. It's the scope that has changed and a growing realization of the autonomy and right to privacy of children.
I dont have children too but my relatives practically created IG accounts for their newborn baby. I dont understand really. They argued it's private, to be shared with family and friends, but it can be done via group chat too. Then the grandmother would upload all media to FB. Call me outdated, but I grew up before social media. My parents wont make a copy of my photos to friends, not even to distant relatives. Why now there is importance to publish the photo everywhere?
@@LeeAnneRMT Exactly, my mom would tell all my life to her friends and it was so embarrassing; I felt violated. There was no internet involved. Now it's those same feeling x100,000; no wonder suicide rates are so high for kids today.
@@dumbphonemom I had a child client come in with their father instead of their mom one day. After their treatment I asked the boy if I could take a selfie with him and text it to his mom. He paused and said no. His father instantly tried to convince him otherwise. I stopped the dad and said clearly. No he has the right to say no and expect us to respect his boundaries.
I think its also a concern about security. I mean you wouldnt tell a stranger on the street, who for all you know could be a child molester, "here is a picture of my kid. She/he goes to this and this and this kindegarten, football practice and bla bla, she/he just started taking the bus by themselves, they go on this bus at this time* and me and my wife work until this time. We went on vacation here and here at this time, so this is our work schedules, this is my childs favourite candy, favourite toy, favourite show etc."
*by googling or calling the football club, youll get the exact time and location when the kid practices, take the approximate (if exact is posted) address with reverse image search and write those addresses in on a bus route planner, youll get the exact busses and time when the child will be traveling on their own. Will propably be 3-4 hours until the parents notice the child is missing.
Also, people generally dont like strangers, employers, not so close friends etc. seeing pictures of them when they were babys/children.
Parents seem to forget that a child isnt their property or an extension of themselves. They are also persons with own thoughts, goals, beliefs and privacy. Dont exploit your child by posting pictures of them for your selfish need of others approval. Its not fair to them now and might hurt them in the future.
For a more likely thing that might happen to a child, imagine how many tools you are providing potentional bullies to use against your child. Imagine how easy it is for someone to blackmail your child with "cute" (to them utterly emberrassing) pictures. Children are very easy to gain leverage on by blackmailing with emberrassing pictures.
For example Private Nudes of adults are leaked constantly but adults are menally capable of dealing with it without it inpacting their lives too much.
Children and teenagers often commit suicide over it.
If you just want the grandparents and close friends to see the pictures, make a family whatsapp or discord group and post it there.
Zoya's mom is a sad little narcissist, acting like the victim and shaming her daughter for WANTING TO PROTECT HERSELF. This is what happens when people procreate for purely selfish reasons!!!
Everyone with children had them for selfish reasons. That is just inherent when you bring someone into existence without their consent. So is it really surprising that parents treat children like their property?
@@tylerbrown3135 yes parents are incredibly selfish and at the same time they wont hesitate to talk about how 'selfless' they think they are
When know the truth about brown parents
I don't know if you watched the whole video or not, and saw that she expresses understanding at the end, but some of y'all have really lost your minds calling everyone a "narcissist". Really inappropriate and not something either of them would likely find constructive.
Biological procreating is selfish in and of itself. There is no holly motive about it.
It's wild how invalidating these adults are about the child's objections to the adult's commodification of their body in front of third parties and strangers for social currency
White shirt mom actually has the nicest reaction eventhough it seems like she doesn't fully understand she tries to, she looks proud that her daughter is capable of thinking critically
Yeah, white shirt mom just doesn't seem aware of the danger and the fact there was a huge facebook leak that DID release people's private photos into the wild. Kid also seems to have mastered the art of offering alternatives, too!
I felt that she was the only one among the three who was really trying to understand what the child was saying .. Others seems to be trying to be defensive ..
"White Shirt Mom"
I agree. She's the only one who actually is consenting to talk to her child in the future and admits that she is in the wrong even though she may not understand it.
She is a teacher so she also has gone through ton of training to understand child behaviour and psychology.
Some parents consider their children as literal object/property of their own. If you cannot respect the privacy and opinion of your own child, what kind of example are you setting for your child? This kind of blatant violation of privacy of ones child should fall under child abuse.
subh1 Ikr! I wouldn't even post pictures of any of my children online, why make your child live on social media like you do. It's sad
Sounds like narcissm. Narcisstic parents tend to view their children as their property and not as individuals.
Oh, my dad is that type of parent.
I think alot of parents just expect rules to be followed until 18 and kids dont wanna do chores or be helpful so people whine about it. Once your 18 or living on your own your free but you have to listen to people in their home.
@@swiftstargames871 what does following rules and doing chores do with consenting to having your image posted online? it's a basic boundary and respect that all people should be granted.
my parents won’t let me post pictures of just my face on social media, and these parents are posting pictures of their kids SHIRTLESS and in BIKINIS???
you even have a white profile pic lmao
@@mayabartolabac and you have a letter sooo👁👁
*insert kettle pot analogy *
@@potatopotatoeOG what's the kettle pot analogy?
btw too lazy to change this pfp lol
my parents let me but my mum advises me against it & doesn’t really want me to because of trolling etc
@@wolfzmusic9706 parent here. trolling, doxxing, identity theft, social hacking...yeah. i do not approve of my younger kids posting info online and i do not share their pictures or full names online.
Oldest is 27 and more paranoid than me, which is saying something, and his grandmother STILL almost fell for scammers pretending to be him using info pulled off his FRIENDS' Facebook pages.
I’m glad we are talking about this. Not everyone on the internet needs to know my personal business. I don’t even know what all my mom has posted about me and what random people know about my life!!!
"If it's not on Insta it didn't happen"
Middle Ages: *disappears*
Well the middle ages basically have 'disappeared'. Everything disappears with time.
@@FIstof7LEGEND I know. What I meant by disappear is like, completely disappear from history in a sense that it didn't even happen.
LOL
😂
😂😂😂
remember the old trope of a child being embarassed when their parents show their friends or s/o’s old family photos? that’s what all of these parents are doing. every single day. but instead of friends and s/o’s, it’s with thousands, if not millions, of strangers.
And since it’s digital, it’s not only showing the photo, but giving out ‘the negatives’ too. Every stranger can take the kids photos and do with them as they please.
Yep! I’m 34 and I have a 5 and 7 year old. I deleted my social media accounts 2.5 years ago to protect my kids privacy. I used to share a few photos when they were babies, but as they grew a little older, I didn’t like the idea of it, so I stopped posting their pictures online. We ran into a few problems of our friends and family posting pictures of our kids and tagging me or leaving their pictures of our kids public and without asking for permission and my husband and I had to request for them to remove the photos and explain why we stopped posting their pictures online. This helped a little, but I just eventually ended up deactivating my social media accounts, not only for family privacy but I just felt that social media can be a pretty toxic place. So far it’s worked out great. My husband still has a fb and although he never posts pics of the kids, he can still monitor if someone else does and ask them to remove it if we don’t want it up (sometimes my Mom wants to share a pic) but for the most part, people know we don’t put our kids online like that. We feel that it’s important to preserve their privacy and leave that decision up to them once they are old enough to make that choice for themselves. ❤️
Exactly
@Yumi Aphrodite Aww thank you. I hope they appreciate it when they’re older. 😊
@@CPeetG you’re an awesome mom! 👏🏻 I tried telling that to an old friend, but instead she got angry at me and accused me of shiz. Well, we aren’t friends anymore. Soon enough her kid will tell her the same way these kids told their parents.
These parents are not as aware as the younger generation of all the malice and cruelty of some people online, they seem completely unaware of the risks and when they are told brush it off
I have just about the best parents anyone could ask for but I had to have this conversation with them many times as a kid. I’m in college now and I’ve stopped caring as much about my online footprint but I definitely see this as an increasing problem in the world today. It’s crazy that kids have to be the voice of reason!
As a 24 year old mom, I agree 100% with this, way too many of my "friends" on Facebook over share very personal things about their children and they have people on their friends list they don't even know! A cute baby photo where a child is naked could be stolen in an instant for disgusting things. The school year is about to start and just like last year they'll be posting photos of where their kids go to school, some have even posted who their child's teacher is. Ridiculous.
Hmm.. sharing pictures of naked children is illegal, even if it's the parents doing it, right? What a stupid thing to do. If it's possible to report those pictures i would advice you to as it may save the children from trouble.
Do they know that once you post a picture it will stay online forever and you'll have no control over it? It's absolutely possible to go on living without even having ONE picture of you or your kids online! I swear!
I think GDPR should prohibit this in Europe but i may be wrong.
Bruh... You're only 24 lol.
@@rollinsalvador8588 yeah? What's wrong with that?
My god, how judgemental are you? I mean you are even talking about your friends using quotation marks. There are limits to everything but it seems weird to me that people could kick up such a big fuss over what are effectively family photos when you yourself probably doing the exact same thing that's being complained about in this video.
@@CraigBickerstaff you call me judgmental and say I'm "probably" doing the same as these mom's without even knowing me lmao isn't that judgemental much LOL
The Indian mum is living vicariously through her child.
like 90% of modern feminist mothers.
@@unclewazza777 what does feminism has to do with this, at all? or do you just like to use it as a Boogeyman?
@@user-vu2yb1gy4l Wow.You don't see the connection.?? Or you just don't want to.?? SELF ENTITLEMENT. Women trying to live viciously through there daughters. Dance Mons a prime example.
wazza davies but how does that link with feminism?😭😭
@@unclewazza777 every Indian mum does that. I don't think Indian mums are anywhere near being feminists.
Literally our parents generation is the worse when it comes to technology and privacy. Like my moms always on her phone (she taps it really hard when it “doesn’t work” until something happens) and she ALWAYS posts photos of us without asking. Majority of the time the photos aren’t ones I would approve. She never asks me, she only care about how she looks in the photos. And one time I posted an insta story of her and it barely showed and she went ballistic and MADE ME take it down. Goes to show that she just cares about how she looks or how other people perceive her and us.
omg yes that’s my mom too
Sad
Or future generations are doomed, when the “wise” are no longer behaving as such.
That’s my mother. I asked her not to post a pic of me bc i didn’t want people knowing i am pregnant. She did it anyways and when i asked her to take it down she didn’t
JenniferR Exactly, that’s not right. Like it’s like they don’t realize that everybody can see what they post, and no matter what age you are, your parents need to respect you too. A photo of you, is yours. If you say you don’t want it posted on the internet people need to respect that, especially your own parents.
I quit social media when my third child was born. I wish I hadn't spent anytime time on social media at all.
Parents in denial asf 😅
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ikr, imagine not respecting your children's wishes to not be put online. My sister will never post any pictures of her son online unless he wants her to.
It’s going to be really sad in another ten years or so to see how screwed up and resentful kids of family vloggers are.
Zoe Coles
Honestly man... I really hope it doesn't get to that point... I can only hope...
"If it's not on insta it didn't even happen" I cant believe that came out of the mouth of a grown woman...
As if you can't document your photos for yourself without sharing them on the internet
@@Kim-dl2uk okay but they aren’t amounting their entire existence to Instagram photos.
Dear, I live in Florida. I've seen worse things each and every day. There was literally a 60 year old lady streaking on a major road not too far from where I live. That, and there is an old guy who owns a small plot of land in the middle of my suburb who threatens to shoot anybody that steps on his front lawn.
@@rattatouilletherat not entirely sure how that's relevant to my comment but yeah Florida is a wild place
Agreed. One of the most insane things I have ever heard anyone say.
That 7 year old girl is VERY smart and wise beyond her years. "You didn't ask" Even at her young age she understands consent way better than her own mother, who thinks that the picture isn't a problem just because she looks cute in it. Yes, she might look cute, but that is not an excuse to post something without your child's consent.
"If it's not on insta, it didn't happen."
I want to say that your memories, your personal experiences, are always real to yourself. They did happen, whether pictures are taken or not, whether other people know about it or not. You don't have to built your self-respect on other people's approval, you can respect yourself unconditionally, if you want to.
And pictures can be kept privately as they always have been. Posting to social media is not necessary.
The Great Hack told us that when kids are 17 they can already have 70,000+ data points being sold about them, with no legal rights to stop it.
yeah thx Mr obvious, didn't catch that. Thought before the invention of cameras nothing happened and ppl didn't exist
Parents truly don’t realize the amount of predators online. Also parents need to realize that when future employers do background checks stuff like this can come up.
it's weird cuz parents get so pressed about their kid posting pictures of themselves and are like "wHaT aBouT pRedAtoRs?!" and "all it takes is one person even if it's your friend to screenshot it or share it and then it's out there forever, etc, etc," but when they post pictures of us, they assume that their pages are somehow immune to predators and their friends would never, ever do something like that.
What angers me so much about this is the public sharing of private moments such as potty training especially of children who refused to defecate while being trained (which is extremely common) and that can obviously be very humiliating
So glad I’m in my 40s. My mom would have gone HAM if we’d had FB back then😳
@@fenderstratADHD Parents have been doing this since the camera was invented. Every member of my family has naked photos of me as a kid. It seems kind of weird now that I think of it. I remember my mom gathering all the moms in the kitchen one day to announce I was growing boobs. WTF, MOM!? Parents have always been bananas. But in 2023, we have to really protect each other in these Internet streets.
@@TheErikaShow I had something odd like that happen to me as well, with my father talking to his 40+ year old friends ('old boy' football (soccer for Americans) team and their wives) about me getting period. I was there, right next to him. I felt so disassociated, luckily two of the wives stood up for me and told him off, shamed him. I must have been 12 or so.
So sorry it happened to you. I have no comprehension for why anyone in their right mind would put somebody else on the spot like that.
The Indian mom... she didn't grow up with piles of photo albums under her family's coffee table?
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The little girl looked on the verge of tears especially at the start and its both good, and really depressing that she is aware of this kind of this at such a young age.
Taking pictures of your children is not wrong, however, posting them without the childs consent is wrong.
If a child isnt comfortable having their photo taken, it shouldnt be taken. A child should never be made uncomfortable, and it is the parent's job to ... yknow not make them feel like a piece of property without any agency in unessential things like photos.
When that little girl told her mum "but you didn't ask" I want to take that clip and share that with all of my friends and family. Your children are not your property. Until they can decide what they want online then they should be kept offline.
I think they should just learn how to talk the nessesary precautions online. Keeping them offline does more damage than good really in this digital world. Many people find friends or keep old friends online. Many people realize their dreams by seeing people doing it online. I use online to learn my dream to make movies. Kids going online is safe as long as you teach them how to stay safe. I talk to many strangers online and I know what info not to give them, I know all the traps, I know all the schemes. Of course if they are really young, it's for the best to limit them to soenthing like only UA-cam and Netflix kids, but when they're a teenager, just make sure they know what is dangerous or not. Even though I'm not a parent... I have one rule when teaching someone for myself... Do not show someone how to live and protect them. Teach them how to live and protect themselves because if you don't, they will only fail after you finish protecting them. I may be young, but I was barely sheltered and protect. I was taught to protect myself.
When you aren't so commanding and strict, but then you snap and tell them straight to the face the dangerous thing they did, they will listen.
The less you speak, the most powerful your words become. Refrain from constant lectures becasue sooner or later it will mean nothing to the person. A powerful serious and short, brutally honest lecture when it is important in rare instancing WILL get them listening.
@@CommentRodent keeping offline means their identity must be protected . I am using social media but have maintained no picture on online policy .
“So it’s actually about the asking, not about the picture itself?” Take out the word picture and fill in the blank and that statement could apply to a lot of situations.
I agree wholeheartedly. Asking for consent should be the norm always.
So it’s actually about the asking, not about the *fursuit* itself?
@@snailofkale yes 👁👄👁
“So its actually about the asking, not the s*x itself? s*x=six don’t get it twisted ;)
@@juandekuan your joke isn’t funny
We have our 1st baby 5 days ago, I had this plan not to share our baby’s any photos publicly in any social media And I’m glad that my wife understood me.
I'm trying to be calm and civil, but the Indian mom. Ugh. Isn't she something.
Exactly.
It's irking me in a weird way.
@@aayushi1242 Some sort of a weird role reversal. The mom plays the unreasonable teen.
@@buzzedbrain yeah. Exactly so.
It's just that the mom playing the unreasonable teen role is just so beyond me 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh she's SOMETHING alright.
@Miracle Motivates mhm, some are also taught to not stand up against elders in family so they don’t even try.
I have just spoke to my 6y old & I was very surprised with her answer! Now I'm not an over sharer anyway with my girl but we've just agreed that when I take photos we will go through them & she can let me know what pictures she is/isn't happy to have me post! I totally get this! xx
That's amazing! You're a great mother 😊
Is your 6yo a genius? Also this is so cute! 😍
@@unrepentantjaegerist7236 to me she is
parenting 101
It's actually a great way to teach kids about what is and isn't appropriate for social media. These parents ought to lead by example.
The saddest thing is, the parents don't listen to the concerns and wants of their children. If your kid wants to discuss something that is bothering them, take it seriously!
A lot of parents are like this... Mine included. That is why I seek help to my friends and siblings, because I knew my parents won’t listen at all because “children should not question, just listen and respect their parents”. And yes, my parents put me down when I tell them something “Just put up with it!” or “But from this youtube video I watched,...” etc
@@shyhrk Yes, its unfortunate.. even though the parents feel like their doing the best thing. But it's good that you have friends and siblings to share with!
Parents don’t see their kids as having valid feelings and wants. Kids are actual humans to parents just accessories and extensions of themselves.
So many people who have kids are such bad parents and should never had reproduced in the first place. It’s scary. They want kids like they want pets or something.
3:35 the mum asking if kids should have veto power over things being taken down
... I thought that was the law?