Tokarev TBP12 Bullpup Shotgun- Range Review

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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  • @Rancid_Sanity
    @Rancid_Sanity 2 роки тому +69

    I just picked this pup up for $200 and thought it was worth a try. Thanks for the video. It actually preformed in your video better than I even was hoping for.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +6

      It's back at SDS for warranty. I'll have a follow up video once the replacement/repaired unit comes back.

    • @oldmanluffy309
      @oldmanluffy309 2 роки тому +5

      where did you pick this up for $200?

    • @123karismith
      @123karismith 2 роки тому +5

      @@oldmanluffy309 locked and loaded 217.00 out the door

    • @oldmanluffy309
      @oldmanluffy309 2 роки тому +1

      @@123karismith just my luck .....sold out

    • @salomander81
      @salomander81 2 роки тому +2

      @@oldmanluffy309 in stock right now as of 8-27

  • @RubSomefastOnIt
    @RubSomefastOnIt Рік тому +42

    looks like somthing that should come standard with every mortgage...

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      Now that would be a great promo for a mortgage company or realtor.

    • @Zeph914
      @Zeph914 Рік тому +3

      @@Gruntreviewsas a mortgage company I’ll keep that in mind..

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      I'll keep an eye out for an ad.

    • @itsintheword230
      @itsintheword230 Рік тому

      😂😂😂😂

  • @GenMinion
    @GenMinion Рік тому +9

    Bought one of these over a year ago, mine came missing the heavy baffle, barrel retainer kept coming unscrewed and 75% were light strikes. Sent it in for warrantee, 3 months later got it back, have ran over 100 rounds, only 2 failures to feed. They did a wonderful job fixing it.

  • @spaghetticowboy8228
    @spaghetticowboy8228 Рік тому +62

    Bought on today because the price was so good. Out of the box no cleaning shooting bird shot I had to cycle each round. After putting two mags through it it suddenly began to perform exceptionally. I was rapid firing by the end of day and had a fun day.🎉

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +4

      Good to hear.

    • @grantduvendack9209
      @grantduvendack9209 Рік тому +2

      any jams? it's like $250 right lol

    • @donniebrookins6215
      @donniebrookins6215 Рік тому +2

      ​@@grantduvendack9209 My son just bought one.....flawless and fun. I'm getting one

    • @08marathonman
      @08marathonman Рік тому +2

      @@Gruntreviews would this gun be suitable for not only home defense, but deer hunting too?

    • @JCoffTopic
      @JCoffTopic Рік тому +4

      @@08marathonman absolutely not for deer

  • @namewitheld
    @namewitheld 2 роки тому +69

    Welp, I'm about 2 minutes in and I've learned everything I needed to know. Thanks!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +2

      My pleasure

    • @g2D1
      @g2D1 2 роки тому +6

      prone to fail, nice looking

    • @linndietz3943
      @linndietz3943 2 роки тому +11

      Didn't hang up once with the 5 round mag though. I would have liked to see more low recoil rounds run thru the 5 round mags. I quickly decided that the larger mags were an issue. In order to rule out the shotgun itself as an issue, more rounds needed run thru the 5 round mags.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +16

      Check out our follow up video. Their warranty department swapped the whole upper. It runs with all mags now.

    • @linndietz3943
      @linndietz3943 2 роки тому +3

      @@Gruntreviews Wow! Thanks for the quick reply and the info. A friend of mine and I watched your review together and will both be buying this gun now and subscribing to your channel. Thanks again!

  • @bigbadjohnpesek9894
    @bigbadjohnpesek9894 Рік тому +19

    You gotta break these bullpups in before taking them out. I locked the bolt open for a month before taking mine out to break it in. I only had one jam with 200 rounds of high and low brass. And that was because I didn't smack the mag to seat the rounds.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +4

      Check out our follow up video. It ran well after it came back from warranty. They swapped the entire upper assembly.

    • @goodcitizen3780
      @goodcitizen3780 11 днів тому +2

      I agree on almost every point. The only thing that I disagree with is locking the bolt back for a month. Modern spring steel doesn't relax by being held under load like the old stuff did in 50s and 60s. Instead it relaxes with use.
      You're wasting a month. Or you could use that month opening and closing the bolt. That would actually relax the steel.

    • @bigbadjohnpesek9894
      @bigbadjohnpesek9894 11 днів тому +2

      You may be right on that. I just don't have the time to keep working the action.

    • @goodcitizen3780
      @goodcitizen3780 11 днів тому +2

      @@bigbadjohnpesek9894
      Yeah that's fair. Now, back in the day ...

  • @unknownpro9247
    @unknownpro9247 2 роки тому +25

    Got this shotgun a couple months ago , it jammed the first 2 boxes of ammo but no Jams after that on high brass .

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +1

      Which piston are ya running?

    • @unknownpro9247
      @unknownpro9247 2 роки тому +2

      @@Gruntreviews heavy loads

    • @catfishman1768
      @catfishman1768 2 роки тому

      How many rounds of hi-brass has it run successfully in a row?
      Thanks

  • @Bonerfyed
    @Bonerfyed Рік тому +19

    If there is one thing I have learned in life, it is that pro mags usually suck because they use springs with too little springback. The springs are weak and always cause feeding problems. Try another 10 round mag but try to stay away from pro mags if possible. I would definitely not trust pro mags in self defense situations. Also this gun shoots best with 2 3/4" to 3" rounds. Any over and under you will get feeding issues. First feed failure you had would probably have to do with the shell size and the second, well I don't like to say it but the pro mag was the cause of that lol.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +4

      Ended up being an out of spec upper assembly. They replaced it under warranty. I put up a follow up video.

    • @Bonerfyed
      @Bonerfyed Рік тому +1

      @@Gruntreviews I saw that. So overall how do you like the gun?? Is it worth the money? In general though pro mags are terrible lol and shells over 3"s do not feed well in that shotgun.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +2

      @Rob10312006 W it's chambered for 3", a 3.5" wouldn't allow the bolt to close. For the money, it's a great range toy. If it was all someone could afford for defense, it's better than nothing. I do agree, the quality out of anything bearing a promag logo tends to be poor.

  • @ejrupp9555
    @ejrupp9555 2 роки тому +72

    I always expect a gun under 500 bucks to be a 85%'r ... Generally need a bit of TLC out the box ... feed ramps are the most common issue. I disassemble every gun first and feel for those rough spots where there is not supposed to be a rough spot. I don't use my motorcycle to pull a boat and don't use my truck to race corvettes.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +10

      This one it appears is an issue with the barrel casting. There's a narrow spot that is the cause of the shell shredding. I've got it off for warranty, I'll have a follow up video when it comes back.

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 2 роки тому +4

      @@Gruntreviews yeah, it appears that there was some mangling in the feed process. That can translate into some restriction in the extraction process. I would also recommend polishing all the internal surfaces of the mags paying close attention to where the the case interacts with the narrowing part of the mag. When they are stamped, they leave burrs in those areas that can radically change the alignment of the feed. I file mine so as to make flat spot tangent to the case, then polish it. Then I drop them in a bucket of Dura Lube & Dura lube the throat. My AR-7 can shoot subsonic stuff no one else's AR-7 can ... they are notorious for short cycling low power cartridges. I have been trying this brand called Clenzoil lately after it got good reviews on Project Farm channel. Seems to be no different than Dura lube in function but maybe a bit better in anti fouling down the barrel. Put some on a paper towel and rub down the ammo before firing and watch how much further the cases eject ... that pretty much proved it to me.
      Polish ... lube ... wah'la. Pretty simple really.

    • @PhuVet
      @PhuVet 2 роки тому +10

      I use my truck to beat corvettes

    • @gtarules1
      @gtarules1 2 роки тому +1

      Panzer M4 says otherwise

    • @umarscamartistjohnson1784
      @umarscamartistjohnson1784 Рік тому +2

      Oh wait until you find out about hi-point lol

  • @ryanquintana3739
    @ryanquintana3739 Рік тому +6

    I must have been lucky cuz I haven't had a single jam. Flawless so far. About 100 rounds in

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +2

      It ended up being a warranty issue. I did a follow up video when it came back.

    • @marshal7102
      @marshal7102 8 місяців тому

      Me too so far

  • @amphibiousone7972
    @amphibiousone7972 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks for the demonstration Boss. Looks like a lot of fun to shoot.

  • @heathhalfhill6401
    @heathhalfhill6401 Рік тому +12

    Thanks for running some cheaper low-brass loads. I bought the TAR 12P 3 days ago and it has yet to arrive. I was wondering how or if it would cycle with these lower velocity and lighter loads. Glad to see that it just might be okay when it gets here.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +1

      I just got a TAR12 to review. My unboxing and tabletop will be up at 9am.

    • @marshal7102
      @marshal7102 8 місяців тому

      Mine did great out of the box with 7 1/2 shot. Bolt locked back as it should on the last round. I always lube the top rounds casing with gun oil on every mag to get it sliding good and after that they feed smooth

  • @Neogentronyx
    @Neogentronyx 10 місяців тому +1

    When you first presented the shotty, I was wishing you had a gray or white t-shirt on so it would be easier to see. Thanks for the fantastic, and informative video!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words

  • @jakehart7617
    @jakehart7617 2 роки тому +8

    If anyone has one of these, here is my advice. Right out of the box, mine was trash. I polished the bolt woth a Drexel and flitz as well as oiled the balls out of it. I left it locked open for a couple weeks, and it ran 100 percent with federal bird shot. Imo they a0re decent guns for the price but the break in can be painful.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +3

      This was apparently a bad barrel. The warranty department swapped the whole upper assembly. I did a follow up video after it came back.

    • @gtarules1
      @gtarules1 2 роки тому

      @@Gruntreviews link to video or name?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/ekS8KoGBLKc/v-deo.html

  • @bobh9492
    @bobh9492 6 місяців тому +1

    I have one of these and havent had any misfeeds in over a hundred rounds so far, though i've only ever used 5 round mags and lower power rounds. Its been a good one. Kicks like a mule.Just bought a muzzle break, some more shoulder padding and will try it out soon.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  6 місяців тому +1

      This ended up being an out of spec upper. I did a follow up when it came back from service.

    • @DeezNUTZ-sv5gn
      @DeezNUTZ-sv5gn 4 місяці тому

      Where did you buy the muzzle break. I've been looking for 1 for a while now with no success

  • @kevinwatts3123
    @kevinwatts3123 2 роки тому +2

    7/25/22 picked mine up today new in box,sent 20 rounds of 23/4 ,71/2 bird shot 1oz with a 99% ejection and a couple of feed failures for 100% failure rate. Sending it back

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      Let us know what their warranty department ends up replacing.

    • @kevinwatts3123
      @kevinwatts3123 2 роки тому +1

      Purchased from Bud’s guns with the lifetime mnf defect warranty from buds So I’ll be evaluating that as well

    • @ogpupu
      @ogpupu Рік тому

      @@kevinwatts3123 im literally on the site now looking to purchase, do you have an update?

    • @kevinwatts3123
      @kevinwatts3123 Рік тому +1

      @@ogpupu put more rounds through it and did get more consistent !
      Did have a few failures though but worth the money

    • @ogpupu
      @ogpupu Рік тому

      @@kevinwatts3123 thanks for responding

  • @nra-tcbob3905
    @nra-tcbob3905 6 місяців тому +1

    I shoot at a couple of ranges that have shotgun shell restrictions. Both require 1200 fps or less.
    Normally, we are talking 1175 fps or slightly lower for both trap and skeet.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  6 місяців тому

      I haven't run into that yet, but I could see it for skeet and trap.

  • @t77snapshot
    @t77snapshot 10 місяців тому +2

    I love the mobility and look of Bullpup shotguns, but I don't know how comfortable I am with the chamber that close to my face 😅

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  10 місяців тому +1

      You don't really think about it while shooting it.

  • @marshal7102
    @marshal7102 10 місяців тому +2

    I've looked up and down UA-cam and you by far go into the best detail on firearms. I have decided on the TBP 12 Bullpup and got it on order with two extra 10 round mags. Like the way you take it from the bench to the range and take us in a full circle from start to finish. Thanks and keep up the great work

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  10 місяців тому

      Thank you for the kind words. I've got a 3rd part to this one, I did a video when it came.back from warranty.

    • @marshal7102
      @marshal7102 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Gruntreviews Yeah I saw it and that helped me make up my mind. I will let you know when I get it. Thank you so much.

    • @marshal7102
      @marshal7102 10 місяців тому

      Saw that one too, It helped me make up my mind to get it. Will let you know when it comes in and if I have any issues. Thanks again@@Gruntreviews

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  10 місяців тому

      @@marshal7102 my pleasure

    • @whipplejosh
      @whipplejosh 9 місяців тому +1

      How’s the shotgun? Any issues?

  • @zachcagley9519
    @zachcagley9519 11 місяців тому +1

    I've got one of these and the 10 and 19 round mags all had issues. I cleaned up the rough edges on my followers and the 10 round mags run great now. I can't make the 19 round ones work consistently. I didn't have the chamber issue you had.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  11 місяців тому

      It ended up being a warranty issue. I did a follow up when It came back from service.

  • @sdfeelinucuffed
    @sdfeelinucuffed 5 місяців тому +1

    Bought this gun and it's everything I needed. Hooked up a 20 drum and zero issues. Don't know what this is all about. Shooting 2 3/4 with no problems whatsoever. Not all demo's are on point.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  5 місяців тому +1

      Indeed. This ended up being an out of spec upper. They replaced under warranty.

  • @swampfox_ks
    @swampfox_ks Рік тому +4

    Seems like it only has problems when using mags over the 5 .. for home defense I feel comfortable with five bucks lol

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +1

      I did a follow up after it came back from warranty. It works with all mags now. Ended up being a defect in the barrel.

  • @Ace45lol
    @Ace45lol Рік тому +2

    I already own this shotgun, only problem it's ever had was not fully cycling bird shot, however I don't think it was the guns fault, my buddy gave me birdshot reloads.

    • @Ace45lol
      @Ace45lol Рік тому +1

      I should follow up with, the gun store owner also told me to never fully load the 19 round magazine. As it can cause loading malfunctions.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +1

      This ended up being a warranty issue. I have a follow up video up front when it came back from warranty.

  • @hybridstudios39
    @hybridstudios39 3 місяці тому +1

    $249 at palmetto
    I had one, good friend just picked one up today. I didn’t have that qc issue on mine. I’ll need to check my friends since he’s never owned a shotgun before and isn’t gun savvy quite yet

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 місяці тому +1

      They did get it fixed under warranty. I did a follow up when it got back.

  • @seeratlasdtyria4584
    @seeratlasdtyria4584 2 роки тому +20

    I have the Tokarev 12 gauge Marine type Pump. How is it? In a word, Perfect:) The actions is smoooooth, the machining and finish are simply superb, and the Turkish Walnut stock SOOOO pretty, you hate taking it out hunting:) Maybe I just got a 'good one', but compared to my other scatter guns, (ALL of which cost multiples of the 'Tok'), there is simply NO comparison. Instantly it became my most prized 12 gauge, AND it came with 3 of the most commonly used chokes:)

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +3

      They definitely give ya a lot for the price.

    • @seeratlasdtyria4584
      @seeratlasdtyria4584 2 роки тому +2

      @@Gruntreviews While I've never been a semi-auto kind of guy, I gotta say , that one you have can sure send a buttload of 'hurt' down range in a hurry LOL.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +2

      Check out my video on the Fostech Origin. If you think this is spicy, the fostech is next level.

    • @hairrus7278
      @hairrus7278 2 роки тому +1

      he not showing how to set it up ready to shoot. he going too fast. he didn't pull back the lever.

    • @45Gunner556
      @45Gunner556 Рік тому

      I can't find a video about that shotgun

  • @oceanixcorp563
    @oceanixcorp563 Рік тому +2

    Thank you! I just ordered mine today

  • @keb8907
    @keb8907 2 роки тому +14

    Best I can tell with the 10 round mag is that it probably was failing because it was aftermarket. 5 round mag seemed to work just fine. This is why I am always so leary of aftermarket

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +5

      Check our our follow up video on this unit. We received it back from warranty and it feeds correctly now with all magazines.

    • @keb8907
      @keb8907 2 роки тому +2

      @@Gruntreviews oh awesome. I was thinking about grabbing one just cause the price is so low. I will check it out now

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/ekS8KoGBLKc/v-deo.html

    • @RickySuave-ol1ev
      @RickySuave-ol1ev Рік тому

      Exactly all the clips I got that’s actually from tokarev which that’s where the gun was made work fine

  • @pyromusician554
    @pyromusician554 8 місяців тому +1

    I kust picked up a TBP12 and one of the first things i noticed with the mags was sometimes the shells like to scoot forward some while in the mag. I also noticed that the shells do get cought up at the start of the chamber and will tend to rotate verticaly out of the mag when taking it out of the gun.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  8 місяців тому

      You definitely have to smack them a bit to get the shells rearward when loading.

    • @pyromusician554
      @pyromusician554 8 місяців тому +1

      @Gruntreviews yeah, it wasn't even the fact that the brass was catching on the round below it. It just worked its war forward somehow 😂. Also what branch and unit were you with? Just curious. I'm active army infantry

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  8 місяців тому

      @pyromusician554 they do tend to grab a bit. The issue with shredding shells was an out of spec upper. I did a follow up video after I got it back from warranty.

  • @girveriusmcfarland5716
    @girveriusmcfarland5716 2 роки тому +2

    Appreciate the video learned what I needed in the first couple minutes.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      My pleasure. I'll have a follow up video once it gets back from warranty.

  • @rgbigdog
    @rgbigdog Рік тому +1

    A nice chamfer edge on the feed ramp would help to easy the shell going forward into the chamber.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      Ended up being out of spec. They replaced the upper assembly under warranty. I did a follow up video after it came back.

  • @boostacoosta2505
    @boostacoosta2505 Рік тому +1

    if you get one new with a chamber thats not rounded smooth for easy shell feeding a little sandpaper/ dremel can fix it fast.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      I did a follow up. They ended up replacing the entire upper assembly.

    • @boostacoosta2505
      @boostacoosta2505 Рік тому

      @@Gruntreviews mine had a unfinished chamber easy home fix

  • @madebyamerica81
    @madebyamerica81 Рік тому +1

    One thing I dislike about this shotgun is the way the mag release is set up.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      It definitely takes some retraining to get used to it.

  • @randyswanger4456
    @randyswanger4456 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for all your great reviews. Can you review the Landor Arms BPX 902 12 Gauge ?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  5 місяців тому

      I'll keep an eye out for one

  • @buddyfarmer2326
    @buddyfarmer2326 2 місяці тому +1

    Hello I was wondering if you ever tried the Black Aces GT9 28 Grain 1oz 1650 fps slugs in the Tokarev TBP 12

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 місяці тому

      I have not, but I have had great experience with Black Aces (Klever) buckshot.

  • @bcalderon79
    @bcalderon79 5 місяців тому +1

    Grab a gun he's them for 250 now! I was debating? Thanks for your review

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  5 місяців тому

      My pleasure. Thank you for dropping a comment.

  • @daviddurbin9802
    @daviddurbin9802 Рік тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @johnphillip2566
    @johnphillip2566 2 роки тому +4

    I just purchased the 15 rounder drum for this bullpup. I’m concerned.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +2

      I havent seen the 15rd units yet, just the 20. How's making the 15 rounder?

    • @Rancid_Sanity
      @Rancid_Sanity 2 роки тому +1

      Where did you purchase that from?

  • @vitalizhukau
    @vitalizhukau Рік тому +2

    Thanks for a good review!
    Just have a question about the piston, heavy load piston that comes with it. Does it make sense to replace it right away if im planning to shoot variety of shells, how important is to have heavy load piston? I have shells that range between 1250 - 1600 fps. Thank you!!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      This was all shot straight out of the box, I did not install the heavy piston.

  • @shannongraham3043
    @shannongraham3043 27 днів тому +1

    Just got one from Cheaper Than Dirt. For slugs do I need to change to the heavy load piston? Also bolt catch lever is a pain to push.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  27 днів тому

      @shannongraham3043 not required, but the heavier piston will reduce bolt speed. Try it both ways and see what runs best.

    • @shannongraham3043
      @shannongraham3043 27 днів тому +1

      @@Gruntreviews thank you. Got an email for a deal on this one. First bull pup and gonna take it out tomorrow. Thanks for the video!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  27 днів тому

      @@shannongraham3043 my pleasure. Let us know how it runs for ya.

  • @jumpercable20
    @jumpercable20 3 місяці тому +1

    Instead of using magazines for high capacity, how about trying a drum to see if it functions any better than magazines.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 місяці тому

      The drums are pretty hit or miss on QC with these turkish imports. The mags are usually pretty reliable

  • @madisonallen4603
    @madisonallen4603 6 місяців тому +1

    What is the best ammo for it with no failures ? Also length/size and all

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  6 місяців тому

      Depends on what load you're looking for. Birdshot or buckshot?

  • @johnbutterworth1369
    @johnbutterworth1369 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the range test. I have the Italian brand of rounds. PUMP....lol

  • @orygunguns8521
    @orygunguns8521 2 роки тому +2

    I guess I won't be buying this! I'm glad I found your video.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      It's off at their warranty department. I'll post a follow up when it gets back.

    • @markbramlett2833
      @markbramlett2833 2 роки тому +1

      Mine worked fine right out of the box. I only used the stock mag with BlackJack buckshoot. I've had problems with other larger mags for others. It seems like the springs are week in some of the larger mags.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      I did put up a follow up video after it came back from warranty. It runs correctly now with all mags.

  • @ToshIsBack
    @ToshIsBack Рік тому +1

    I just bought the one in nickel/black it's eye candy.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      That one definitely looks nice in photos. I haven't seen one in person yet.

  • @Zeph914
    @Zeph914 Рік тому +1

    You forgot to lean in on that first shot but the next 4 looked smoother

  • @n4sir804
    @n4sir804 2 роки тому +1

    Just bought one.. now i egret it now seeing this video..but i dont intend to use more than a 5 round mag even though it comes with a 19 round

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      I should have it back from warranty soon. I'll post a follow up video.

  • @TCSkiFilms
    @TCSkiFilms 2 роки тому +7

    Just a couple of thoughts. The mags that it comes with had no errors. Aftermarket Extended mags seem to have a problem. It's possible there are extended mags that work just fine.
    I have to find anything about Tocar 12 gauges When it comes to accuracy. That would be nice to know.
    1 review did point out that because the action is closer to your face that it is louder.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      The promag was new, but the other 10 and 19rd mags are know working mags in other turkish units. I haven't run I the shell shredding issue before.
      I tend not to do accuracy on shotguns, much of it is load and choke dependent.
      As for louder, it's in the same ball park as any other 12ga. You don't notice a difference in report, but you do definitely hear the action move.

    • @theateroftheabsurd2168
      @theateroftheabsurd2168 2 роки тому +2

      Who worries about accuracy with a shotgun?

    • @TCSkiFilms
      @TCSkiFilms 2 роки тому +1

      @@theateroftheabsurd2168 if all you use is birdshot and double odd Buck you're absolutely right. But if you're going to use slugs it would be nice to know if you can hit a Target 50 to 75 yards away with some accuracy. When I was about 15 years old we used to go down to a gun range where they had both skeet and trap. That experience told me that as a home defense weapon you can't think of it as something that would just blow a whole door opening unless you plan on cutting the barrel off very short. Part of my question is do any of the new AR style 12 gauges, or even the bull pups, show well in skeet/trap and if not why not? I do realize that using mags during skeet or trap might be an inconvenience.

  • @Matt-gl7ng
    @Matt-gl7ng 9 місяців тому +1

    Grunt reviews I am thinking about buying one of these I just have to find a good price for it where where can I find the to go with these does any website have the 10 round mags and what's a good Red Dot sight for this can you recommend or some of the red dots you can recommend for this shotgun great review I've watched your review on this video and your follow-up video and read the comments I'm wondering if the panzer BP 12 it is just as good or better or worse I'd like to see a video of you testing the panzer bp12 or the other panzer egx 5000 I think it is could you do a video of so you can see the difference between the two of them I'd really appreciate it and like I said great video makes me want to go out and buy one right away just trying to get up the money and find a good deal thank you for your video very good demonstration very informative stay healthy and it's safe out there you keep making your good videos
    Mr.MadMatt69

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  9 місяців тому

      Magazines are a mka 1919 pattern. Lots of vendors selling them. I'll keep an eye out for a panzer to review. A lot of the turkish Imports are coming out of the same factories. As for red dots, I'm partial to Aimpoint, but holosun has some.decent options as well.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  9 місяців тому

      Magazines are a mka 1919 pattern. Lots of vendors selling them. I'll keep an eye out for a panzer to review. A lot of the turkish Imports are coming out of the same factories. As for red dots, I'm partial to Aimpoint, but holosun has some.decent options as well.

    • @marshal7102
      @marshal7102 8 місяців тому

      You might have missed the best deals on this gun because I bought mine from Cheaper than dirt Guns and they went for $249.90 about a month ago now they are up to 299.00 because of all the popularity. The longer you wait the higher they will go

  • @Average_Joe_Arms
    @Average_Joe_Arms Рік тому +1

    Just picked one up and dealer said you gotta use 1350 fps or higher or they have problems cycling

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      This ended up being an out of spec upper. They replaced it under warranty. I posted a follow up video after repair.

  • @jamesbowerman5477
    @jamesbowerman5477 Рік тому +1

    seems good price and effective, only if ya stick to 5 rnd mags...

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      It ended up being a warranty issue with an out of spec upper. I have a follow up video up from when it returned from service.

  • @rayb5204
    @rayb5204 Рік тому +1

    Great review...thanks for hard work!

  • @dennislopez6288
    @dennislopez6288 9 місяців тому +1

    will this use the rock island armory vrpa40 magazines?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  9 місяців тому

      Sorta. Same pattern, but the vrpa mags won't lockback

  • @aseamin40
    @aseamin40 11 місяців тому +1

    These Turkish Bullpups fire damn good with federal ammo especially slugs 3 inch. But they do need breaking in then they function very well after a 100 rounds or so high brass ammo never gave me any feeding problems and 2 inch shells were a no go

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  11 місяців тому +1

      This ended up being an out of spec upper. I did a follow up review when it came back from warranty.

  • @ottomueller4425
    @ottomueller4425 Рік тому +2

    If it is running good on the 5 round magazine it is the large magazines so I would stick with the 5 rounds unless you can tweak the magazines to get them to work right the gun seems good.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      It ended up being a warranty issue. They swapped the entire upper assembly. I have a follow up video on it after it came back from warranty.

  • @BrokdaRock
    @BrokdaRock 2 роки тому +4

    Thinking of getting one of this

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      I'll have a follow up video to see if smoothing the feed ramps fixes the feeding issue

  • @MackTezArmory
    @MackTezArmory Рік тому +1

    Is it worth buying? I’m in Texas and they have one for $220

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      That's up to you. I did a follow up video after it came.back from warranty.

  • @LS6WS6
    @LS6WS6 2 роки тому +3

    Just got the marine version.

  • @Chieflywaze
    @Chieflywaze Рік тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this shotgun. But using a better shooting table would be great!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      It's on the list. Worked with what I had available.

    • @MaverickMcGreasy
      @MaverickMcGreasy Рік тому +1

      Idk man. The table your suggesting isnt as environmentally friendly

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      @@MaverickMcGreasy you could almost say I recycled it for another purpose

  • @dabertspracklin3086
    @dabertspracklin3086 Рік тому

    Need a tiger grip on the picatilly and weight in the handle for stability. I'm going to run a 20 round drum and butt stabilizer to help as well

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      Try the drum before you buy, it gets really awkward to hold with the extra width at the rear.

  • @mashpotates3
    @mashpotates3 Рік тому +1

    So I misread the manual and ran some 1 1/4 oz through on the standard piston. I’m looking to swap out the pistons before my next trip to the range, and am curious if you had any experience with the heavy piston.
    I saw some people in a forum talking about how the heavy piston is sliding around freely after installation and they’re worried they may have installed incorrectly. Is this normal?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      If you hear it moving while tilting the shotgun back and forth, that's normal with the pistons.

  • @robmiller4630
    @robmiller4630 Рік тому +1

    I see a recent black aces bullpup 12 gauge appears on palmetto state armory
    Review?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      I'll have to look at adding it to the list

  • @defendpolicedefunddemokkkr6976
    @defendpolicedefunddemokkkr6976 2 роки тому +2

    I was planning on buying this & getting the 10 round mag. I only use buck & slug shots, 2 3/4. What brand of 10 round mag do you recommend? I see you're jamming quite a bit. Should I go with a different brand semi auto shotgun? Now I'm having 2nd thoughts on getting one

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +2

      Check out my follow up video on this. It runs well now that it's back from warranty.
      As for 10rd mags, it's a mka1919 pattern. Any of the aluminium ones are good. They all pretty much come out of the same plant.

  • @greengiant7439
    @greengiant7439 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video. As a previous commenter stated, I saw all I needed to in the first few minutes. For a play toy, it may suffice. However, for home defense you must ask yourself, what value do I place on my family's or my life? For me, it is simple, buy a reputable, proven, and dependable shotgun. It may cost a little more, but, when a perp is coming at me, I want one that will go BANG, BANG WITHOUT JAMMING!! Thirty-eight years of law enforcement taught me when danger comes, you do not have time to WORK on your defense, you must USE your defense or lose!!!

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      With most of the turkish Imports I consider them to be range toys.

  • @ctyofwnd6227
    @ctyofwnd6227 3 місяці тому +1

    I have an Olive Drab one. Where can I get a ten or twenty round mag?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 місяці тому +1

      Lots of places have em. It's a mka 1919 pattern.

    • @ctyofwnd6227
      @ctyofwnd6227 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Gruntreviews Thanks Brother

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  3 місяці тому

      @@ctyofwnd6227 my pleasure

  • @inquiry9976
    @inquiry9976 2 роки тому +2

    I am a first time owner of this shotgun and i was wondering do you have a video on how to change out the piston for the hotter rounds?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      I do not at this time. I need to look at doing one.

    • @gameon2081
      @gameon2081 2 роки тому +2

      I believe Tokarev USA have a video here on UA-cam on how to disassemble the riffle

  • @ogpupu
    @ogpupu Рік тому +1

    Ok so bottom line, what ammo should I purchase (home defense) cause this gun has jammed ALOT using certain ammo..

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +1

      Ehhhhhhhh.........not sure I'd trust it beyond use as a range toy. However, if you were to try to use it for Home defense, I'd go with the Black Aces Buckshot.

  • @bigbinhous
    @bigbinhous 7 місяців тому +1

    Does it run better with 2 3/4 or 3 inch shells?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  7 місяців тому +1

      About even. It juat needs to be a hotter load.

  • @danladd4764
    @danladd4764 Рік тому +1

    I just picked one of these up , what is the heavy dudty recoil buffer im looking to get one but cant find it

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      It's a gas piston. It should be in the box, you may have to unfold the box to find it.

  • @rexorotten9262
    @rexorotten9262 Рік тому +1

    Are you using the light piston or the heavy piston? Nevermind, I missed where you said you were using the lighter piston the first time I watched. Thanks!

  • @logann9318
    @logann9318 10 місяців тому +1

    Did you keep the light piston, or did you change it out for the heavy one that comes with the gun

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  10 місяців тому +1

      This is all light piston.

    • @logann9318
      @logann9318 10 місяців тому

      @Gruntreviews
      That sounds good. I was wondering if I should change it out for using slugs.

  • @sixgunmiller6198
    @sixgunmiller6198 Рік тому +1

    QUESTION COULD YOU POLISH THE RAMP AND FEED RING OF THE BAREL TUBE ON THIS SHOTGUN

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +1

      I suppose you could. It ended up being an out of spec upper. They replaced it under warranty and I did a follow up video.

  • @jackw8338
    @jackw8338 Рік тому

    And in classic fashion, extended mags cause malfunctions. Fun to use on the range, but only trust standard capacity mags with your life.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      It ended up being a warranty issue. I did a follow up video after it came back.

  • @JudahsAwakening
    @JudahsAwakening 5 місяців тому +1

    Best money ever spent on a 12ga semi auto shotty man I love this gun and for 250??? Are you shitting me???

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  5 місяців тому

      The turkish imports are a lot of bang for the buck

  • @imp9ct239
    @imp9ct239 4 місяці тому +1

    great vid it looks like its tuffer taking failed shells out compared to the Tokarev TAR 12 but it sure does look better imo i think ill go the Tokarev TAR 12 does anyone have both or any opinions on the 2

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  4 місяці тому

      This ended up being a bad upper and was replaced under warranty. I did a follow up when it came back from service. I've got a review up on the TAR 12 as well.

  • @vitiate5093
    @vitiate5093 7 місяців тому

    I just got one a TBP-12 myself today what shells do you guys recommend using to break it in? And what about shells do you recommend using after? Btw this would be my first firearm I’ve bought myself and first shotgun ever.

  • @suttle86
    @suttle86 Рік тому +1

    So how about that trigger pull? I shot one today and was thinking about getting one but the trigger pull is very heavy. I thought the safety was on still when I went to shoot the first shot.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      I dont remember what it was off hand, but I do a weight and pull test on my tabletop review.

  • @kentuckyanarchy
    @kentuckyanarchy Рік тому +1

    Bad boy bout jumped out your hands 🙌

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +1

      It's definitely got 12ga worth of recoil.

    • @kentuckyanarchy
      @kentuckyanarchy Рік тому

      @@Gruntreviews absolutely! I’m wanting it now!

  • @terencewilliams448
    @terencewilliams448 10 місяців тому +1

    Can that 19 rd mag work with the gforce arms gfy? They look like the same gun

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  10 місяців тому +1

      As long as it takes mka1919 pattern mags, yes

    • @terencewilliams448
      @terencewilliams448 10 місяців тому

      @Gruntreviews thank you I just looked it up it does

    • @terencewilliams448
      @terencewilliams448 10 місяців тому

      @Gruntreviews would you recommend that mag I see you had a few problems

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  10 місяців тому +1

      @terencewilliams448 mag is fine. This ended up being an out of spec upper. I've got a follow up video posted on this unit when it came back from warranty.

    • @terencewilliams448
      @terencewilliams448 10 місяців тому

      @@Gruntreviews just watched it , I went ahead and bought the mag .

  • @tr1ppl3M
    @tr1ppl3M 2 роки тому +1

    You got a hell of a flinch my guy. But good review

  • @tone6485
    @tone6485 10 місяців тому +1

    Will it run any 12g rounds my friend said you need certain shotgun shells??

  • @KnurdMonkey
    @KnurdMonkey Рік тому +1

    I am looking at this gus for home defence. Do you think that deburring it may help with the chambering issue?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +1

      I sent it off for warranty service. They ended up replacing the entire upper assembly. I have a follow up video from when it came back.

    • @AJ-ym5oc
      @AJ-ym5oc Рік тому

      This gun is junk. Mine doesn't work. m.ua-cam.com/video/YVEmx294bew/v-deo.html

  • @rossauce12
    @rossauce12 Рік тому +1

    Im notnsure if my comment posted, but does this or the ar version (same brand) kick harder?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      They feel very similar. The difference is that with the weight centralized to the rear, there's a bit less muzzle flip with a bull pup.

  • @Gameboy-Unboxings
    @Gameboy-Unboxings 2 роки тому +1

    I don't have experience with this type of shotgun. So I was wondering if you could tell me, what makes it seem so quiet compared to a pump action??

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +1

      A little bit of it is the mic on the camera. The other part is the semi auto shotguns use some of the gas to Cy le the action. This reduces a small amount of the noise and a larger amount of recoil.

  • @ELCAZANOVIAS
    @ELCAZANOVIAS Рік тому +2

    Can you shoot Small shells ???

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      I have not tried it, but most semiautos don't like minishells.

  • @MrFieleke69
    @MrFieleke69 5 місяців тому +1

    What magazine is the 19 rounder ?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  5 місяців тому +1

      There's a bunch of brands that sell them, but it's an mka 1919 pattern. Brand lasered on to it doesn't matter.

    • @MrFieleke69
      @MrFieleke69 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Gruntreviews Thank you.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  5 місяців тому +1

      @@MrFieleke69 my pleasure

  • @10MilliJay
    @10MilliJay 9 місяців тому +1

    What Magazines Did You Use

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  9 місяців тому

      They're mka 1919 pattern mags

  • @DylanBegazo
    @DylanBegazo Рік тому +1

    Tokarev TBP12 Bullpup Shotgun 😢 After the 1st 2 minutes it Seems like I better take my money elsewhere.
    I’ll keep looking.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому +1

      I did do a follow up video when it came back from warranty service.

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo Рік тому +1

      @@Gruntreviews Really, I'll take a look.

  • @jaydonald4898
    @jaydonald4898 2 роки тому +2

    waiting for the update on this, have the same model yet it stovepipes new rounds every round or two even with the mag it came with, curious if I should attempt to send it to tokarev for a replacement on one that works, or sell it, take the hundo or so price hit and spend a bit more on something that actually works lol

    • @jaydonald4898
      @jaydonald4898 2 роки тому +1

      also ftr I shot ten rounds and it jammed up 3 times, using remington slugger rounds 2 1/4inch 1oz slugs, in the magazine it came with, and no I didnt notice any burrs, altho it didnt cut the cartridges open, i was able to reload them into the mag

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      Once I get it back from warranty, I'll have a separate followup video.

    • @jaydonald4898
      @jaydonald4898 2 роки тому +1

      @@Gruntreviews roger that

  • @Glenn-em3hv
    @Glenn-em3hv 9 місяців тому +1

    Gun has a kick!!!

  • @tdmallet
    @tdmallet Рік тому +1

    Sometimes I hate being lefthanded. Any left handers shoot this? I'd love to have one.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      Might be a bit rough, ejection. Port is right at face level.
      Only lefthanded bullpup shotgun I know ia the Tavor TS12.

  • @robmiller4630
    @robmiller4630 Рік тому +1

    Unsure why he didn't have the mags loaded prior to. It's always haha when people refer to things as, "she." or he.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      We load as we go eith shotguns to show each load going into it. With so many offerings, we want to show what works and what doesnt.

  • @travisfowler8345
    @travisfowler8345 Рік тому

    Anyone and everyone interested... Always buy local and use cash... And when making your deals make sure they know you are paying in cash you will typically save several dollars dealing with cash... They pay 5% on card sales... So they will typically work with you ALOT with cash offers...
    I've been working with a gun store local and will probably save 50 bucks or more if I go through him with cash... And 25 is FFL transfer if I go online... Then 17 shipping... Then I guess 8 bucks for a cash deal... It adds up quick

  • @isaacdavis100
    @isaacdavis100 2 роки тому +1

    definitely grabbing one

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      Check out our follow up video on this. The unit came back from warranty.

  • @kingofrannoch
    @kingofrannoch 2 роки тому +1

    im concerned this ting will blow up in my face after watching this

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +1

      It's currently back at SDS for warranty. The issue appears to be a sharp edge on the barrel. Looks like a machining error. I'll have a follow up when it gets back.

  • @karenschmincke8780
    @karenschmincke8780 Рік тому +1

    Not enough spring pressure on the 10 rounds mag?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      Out of spec upper. It was repaired under warranty. I posted a follow up video when it came back.

  • @yospit8926
    @yospit8926 2 роки тому +2

    I got a question would a short shell or mini shell ammo work?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +1

      Generally they won't work in a semi auto. However, when I get it back from warranty I'll test them out in the followup video.

  • @busa4091
    @busa4091 2 роки тому +2

    Hi have you figured out a way around the jamming issue with the higher capacity mags? I have the same issues.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому +1

      It's at warranty now. I'll have a follow up video when I get it back.

    • @busa4091
      @busa4091 2 роки тому +1

      @@Gruntreviews Thanks. Let me know the result please.

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  2 роки тому

      My pleasure. Tap the subscribe and the bell and it'll drop ya a notification when it goes live

  • @user-qq5pb3ir1w
    @user-qq5pb3ir1w Рік тому +1

    Where can I get one if those banna magazines for mine 🤔

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      They're available from a bunch of retailers. It's an MKA1919 pattern magazine.

  • @1963136
    @1963136 Рік тому +1

    Did you Removed the Choke before Shooting or they have to be in ?

  • @keonrich1819
    @keonrich1819 Рік тому +1

    Is the failure cuz of ammo or mag or is it cuz how cheap it is?

    • @Gruntreviews
      @Gruntreviews  Рік тому

      Ended up being a warranty issue. I did a follow up video when it came back.