Ultra Bee killer?! FIRST LOOK at the Brand NEW Talaria DRAGON! 88v w/ 630nm of Torque!

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2024

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  • @logan-taylor
    @logan-taylor 9 місяців тому +7

    This is going to be wild - Talaria's killing it

    • @TheRuckusBoyz
      @TheRuckusBoyz 9 місяців тому

      Couldn’t agree more!👌🏼🤘🏼

  • @jerseyjfp
    @jerseyjfp 9 місяців тому +4

    Yes this is what I’ve been waiting for!!
    My Ultra bee will be for sale as soon as these hit the market.

  • @douglasyoung3992
    @douglasyoung3992 9 місяців тому +1

    Good stuff to come!

  • @rustynutracing
    @rustynutracing 9 місяців тому +4

    The Dragon appears to be a direct competitor to the Surron Storm Bee. It is:
    -slightly smaller than the SB with a seat height of 900mm vs. 940mm
    -a lot lighter than weighing in at 100kg vs the obese SB's 127kg
    -more torque with 630Nm of on the rear wheel (48T) sprocket vs the SB's 520Nm of grunt
    -a little less battery capacity of 5.2kwh vs the SB's 5.7kwh of storage

    • @MotoAlias
      @MotoAlias 9 місяців тому

      It's not a storm bee competition tho it's an ultra bee competition and it beats the ultra in every way

    • @Talaria_Guy
      @Talaria_Guy 9 місяців тому

      @@MotoAlias Dragond could be a Ultra beater IF the quality is better than older Talarias and IF the parameters of the Dragon is real. But need to wait for the first tests.

    • @MotoAlias
      @MotoAlias 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Talaria_Guy the quality of talaria has always been excellent I own one of the first talaria Stings on the market and I've jad zero issues it's a phenomenal bike.

    • @Talaria_Guy
      @Talaria_Guy 9 місяців тому

      @@MotoAlias You are very lucky. I have two TL3000 and my bike's front DNM forks was bent and stucked within 30 miles. My girlfriend's bike's fork cracked on assembling out of box. We had to wait 3 weeks for a replacement fork for a completeley new unused bike! After warranty changer the second fork cracked too. Third piece was good, but after 60 miles, her forks are bent and stuck too like mine. And we are both using the bikes the same style. No jumps or sending. Just a normal use like in advertising. Our bikes brakes was horribly weak so it was upgraded too. Both bikes gearbox/motor is rattling. Both bikes batteries was rattilng too (fixed). The range is a quarter of the adwertisement. My bike's controller is overheating after a 1 minute uphill. (I am only 165 lbs.) So i can say, the stock TL3000 was a completely scam because i need to pay for upgrade parts about $1500 both of bikes. And i never thought i MUST replace parts because the stock parts are completely a s*it and useless. And this was not about power upgrades. We just want to use them like a new bike. So that's why I look at the Talaria with reservations...

    • @MotoAlias
      @MotoAlias 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Talaria_Guy the dnm forks suck and are made for a bicycle the fastace and talaria factory forks are good on the talaria. I originally got he first bike with the rst Killah forks but I knew they were trash sold them and bought fastace. Also never had overheating issues and I ride in the sand here in florida where the bike really works hard. So must've been a bad controller it happens. All that stuff should be covered in warranty tho the dnm forks were cracking and they were replacing them. I upgraded my controller to a bac8000 and the bikes a 65mph master never overheats never any issues I don't even nrake shit really granted I've replaced my bars and my skid plate and alot of basic stuff like pegs any small part you can think of.

  • @mrskywalker115
    @mrskywalker115 9 місяців тому +2

    I was gonna get an Ultra bee and missed on a deal after selling my light bee but looks like it worked out for the better. If it has all the same tuning parameters, mainly throttle and reverse, it will be my next bike. Just throw on some gummy tires and hand guards and its ready for TKO. Seen some info that it may have KYB forks which would be game changing as we could actually get proper suspension setup too.

    • @Talaria_Guy
      @Talaria_Guy 9 місяців тому

      I think if the Dragon gets a KYB forks than the price will be much more than the Ultra. Now if the specs are not fake than i think the Dragon will be $1000-1500 more than the Ultra's new price.

    • @mrskywalker115
      @mrskywalker115 9 місяців тому

      @@Talaria_Guy Idk how talaria does it but they pack in alot of extra for not much money if any. Look at the current price on mx4 vs light bee x, lbx costs more than the mx4 with less battery and power. That said if it came with KYB forks and the battery listed in spec sheet, then $1000-1500 more would be well worth it for 30% more battery, 2x the power(not that ultra needed more), and better forks(ultra bee forks are probably their weakest point and its been a challenge for people to actually rework them), and 21/18 wheels. Reality is the Ultra is closer to $7300 after getting a set of 21/18 wheels and still way less battery capacity.

    • @Talaria_Guy
      @Talaria_Guy 9 місяців тому

      @@mrskywalker115 I wrote this because a lot of people dreaming about the Dragon will be not cost more than $8000 or maybe less than $8000. I know plus 1500 will worth IF they make the bike with real parameters and the bike will be good as on the paper and datasheet. But we will se, just need to wait 1- 1,5 years for the Dragon to hit the market.

    • @mrskywalker115
      @mrskywalker115 9 місяців тому

      @@Talaria_Guy Yep, Im hoping its as good as the specs show. If it is I'll be getting one, if not I'll go for an Ultra(my original plan before this was unveiled)

  • @CampbellSuperKids
    @CampbellSuperKids 9 місяців тому +1

    I can't wait

  • @SunKing2010
    @SunKing2010 9 місяців тому +2

    Any word on availability and price? Was going to buy the MX4 and glad I waited.

  • @saberterminal871
    @saberterminal871 9 місяців тому +2

    88v is insane what the hell

  • @DeeZNutS400
    @DeeZNutS400 9 місяців тому +6

    Specifications
    Vehicle Dimension
    2100mm * 810mm * 1200mm
    Wheelbase
    1410mm
    Vehicle Weight/60Ah Battery Included 74.4kg/100kg
    Max. Loading Ability
    150kg
    Min. Ground Clearance
    310mm
    Seat Height
    900mm
    Max. Gradeability
    45°
    Top Speed
    110km/h
    Nominal Power
    10KW
    Peak Power
    28KW
    Torque on Rear Wheel
    630N.m (48T Sprocket)
    Battery Pack
    88.8V/58.5Ah for Nominal, and 88. 8V/60. 5Ah for maximum
    Range
    2150Km@25Km/h
    Charging Time
    4h
    Charger Input Voltage
    AC110/230V-50/60Hz
    Riding Modes
    ECO/SPORT/HYPER
    Wire Wheel Size
    Fr.: 1.6×21; Rr.:2.15×18
    Tire Size
    Fr.: 2.75-21; Rr.: 90/100-18
    Front Fork
    Adjustable Hi-Performance Air+Spring Fork with 250mm Travel
    Rear Shock Absorber
    Adjustable 90mm Travel Shock absorber with Linkage
    Brake Type
    Hydraulic Front and Rear Disc Brakes
    Primary Transmission
    Gearbox
    Secondary Transmission
    Chain (520-102)
    Dash TypeTFT

  • @Offthevoltz
    @Offthevoltz 9 місяців тому +2

    Not sure how nice I want this to be. I’m building my ultra, getting a charged cycle 80v73ah soon I have a x9000 and I got the sotion UB motor fw01 pro. Dragon is going to be 88v out the gate!! Hope the discharge amps are low 😂 for my sanity

    • @Kaisolostudio
      @Kaisolostudio 9 місяців тому

      That 80 73 sounds insane 😂

    • @BrianLampright913
      @BrianLampright913 9 місяців тому

      Hey thanks for the shout out! You'll enjoy one of our upcoming videos where we FINALLY have an EBMX motor in our UB and we are about to go race it in the last Grand Prix race of the year against gas bikes. The stock motor has been overheating with the 80v x9000 combo and the first 2 Grand Prix's were full of overheating but plenty of range. Excited to see how dominate this bike will be now that the overheating is solved. We'll probably run her at 20kw for the race. Can't wait! Hope to get this video out end of the month. :)

  • @The_Privateer
    @The_Privateer 9 місяців тому +1

    Looks like the Chinese smaller sized e-moto arms race is on!

  • @BrianLampright913
    @BrianLampright913 9 місяців тому

    220lbs vs 185 lbs for the UltraBee, most people in the eMX market value light weight bikes over large powerful heavy bikes which is why the Storm Bee never sold. With this being the weight of a full sized gas bike IMO they missed the mark. But, we'll see after we throw a leg over it.

  • @tiger200350
    @tiger200350 7 місяців тому

    I am hoping for a street legal version.

  • @AverageDaveVideos
    @AverageDaveVideos 9 місяців тому +1

    18/21!!! Boo yea!

    • @BrianLampright913
      @BrianLampright913 9 місяців тому

      about time a bike came with 18/21!! Thanks @chargedcycleworks for showing them the way!

  • @burn1gotbeats
    @burn1gotbeats 9 місяців тому +1

    I’d like like to see this bike vs that new Pro SS bike

    • @ghostphil69
      @ghostphil69 4 місяці тому +1

      Definitely I would like to see how this talaria would compare to the Pro SS 2.0 2024 version for sure and cost I’m guessing that the pro SS is still going to be the best bang for your buck would definitely like to see more competitive options

    • @burn1gotbeats
      @burn1gotbeats 4 місяці тому

      @@ghostphil69 I agree ☝🏽

  • @slingman1981
    @slingman1981 9 місяців тому

    this looks great. i am hoping it is a little smaller than the ultra bee. it would be great for a supermoto project. does anyone have a ultra bee blacked out with no front fender and smaller wheels? if so please put up a video of it

    • @sovietmudkip1
      @sovietmudkip1 9 місяців тому

      It's bigger than the ultra. It's about 35lbs heavier. It has a bigger battery, wheels, and tires.

  • @ЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖ
    @ЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖЖ 9 місяців тому

    In Russia you can already pre-order this Dragon.

  • @DukeFerg
    @DukeFerg 9 місяців тому +2

    Nice specs on paper, but wonder how it translates to real world usage

    • @Talaria_Guy
      @Talaria_Guy 9 місяців тому

      My opinion is the same!

  • @HoweDUU
    @HoweDUU 9 місяців тому

    Does anyone have any guess when this will be available to buy? How long is it usually after a reveal until release?

  • @dlpcaddy
    @dlpcaddy 9 місяців тому

    Top speed

  • @eucme9716
    @eucme9716 9 місяців тому

    Superior to the Ultra in every way.

    • @BrianLampright913
      @BrianLampright913 9 місяців тому

      It's 220lbs...you sure about that?

    • @midgetmoney1
      @midgetmoney1 9 місяців тому

      @@BrianLampright913 To get a real bike with reliable parts, good range, proper sized wheels, the weight needs to be that high unfortunately. Just ask KTM who has innovated the hell out of off road motorcycles. They could make them lighter but they would be having to warranty like crazy. If you ride for real, it isn't uncommon to launch your bike down a rock wall or into a stream full of rocks and most of the time, they come out unharmed. Do that to a mountain bike or a Surron/Taleria (basically a oversized MTB), the thing will be in peices.

    • @BrianLampright913
      @BrianLampright913 9 місяців тому

      @@midgetmoney1 definitely a good point although we've put the Ultra Bee through the ringer and it's a phenomenal bike once we add 18/21 to it at well under 200lbs. Suspension is not up to Japanese standards and I would trade weight for better boingers. I doubt the Dragon suspension will be any better since it's also China sourced (NOT KYB). But, we'll see maybe they will surprise us. Many new bikes coming in 2024, some haven't even been announced yet!

    • @midgetmoney1
      @midgetmoney1 9 місяців тому

      @@BrianLampright913 Yeah, it's all about trade off's. Weight for reliability and plushness. Trials bikes are very light, tough and reliable but only have 6" of travel, short wheelbase and smaller forks. I think the 200lb mark is the sweet spot. If anyone can do it, it's probably KTM. At least Talaria is putting on proper wheels, or so it seems.

  • @JessThyMess.
    @JessThyMess. 9 місяців тому

    Is there a price point yet?

  • @EricKammerzelt
    @EricKammerzelt 9 місяців тому

    I wonder if this will be competition for the Varg. While impressive, many were dissapointed by the weight.

    • @Offthevoltz
      @Offthevoltz 9 місяців тому +3

      Absolutely cannot compete with varg no air cooled offering can compete with varg. Varg is a master piece not a toy.

    • @lithiumbizkit
      @lithiumbizkit 9 місяців тому

      Lol you gotta be kidding

    • @Offthevoltz
      @Offthevoltz 9 місяців тому

      @@lithiumbizkit what bike or setup that’s air cooled can do continuous 60kw without heat issues? Not peak continuous?

    • @lithiumbizkit
      @lithiumbizkit 9 місяців тому

      @@Offthevoltz i think you're reading the comment chain wrong, i'm saying there is 0 chance this bike is remotely in the same realm as a varg

    • @Offthevoltz
      @Offthevoltz 9 місяців тому

      @@lithiumbizkit then I absolutely read it wrong.

  • @vinuezaer
    @vinuezaer 9 місяців тому

    Dang it. Just bought an ultra bee. Just a little late.

    • @DukeFerg
      @DukeFerg 9 місяців тому

      You and I both just did dude, I feel your pain

    • @BrianLampright913
      @BrianLampright913 9 місяців тому +1

      The UB is incredible, get out and twist the throttle and enjoy it :) This might be a more powerful bike, but at 220lb it's as heavy as a full-sized gas bike, the thing we love about the UB is how light it is. Nobody liked the Storm Bee because of its weight. Will be interesting to see what people think of the Dragon once it arrives in a year.

    • @DukeFerg
      @DukeFerg 9 місяців тому

      @@BrianLampright913 THE Brian lampright from CCW replying back to me?! I win today, gonna be ordering 18/21 wheel set from yall shortly once I get some more side money. Thanks for what yall do for the community, Brian!!

    • @BrianLampright913
      @BrianLampright913 9 місяців тому

      @@DukeFerg LOL, Thanks for the compliments! We just love to ride and help everybody else fall in love with our passion.

  • @thiccwicky7571
    @thiccwicky7571 9 місяців тому

    surron is lagging bro

  • @midgetmoney1
    @midgetmoney1 9 місяців тому

    $8800usd

  • @armyca
    @armyca 9 місяців тому

    I was waiting Talaria Sting 72V... Bigger size bike will be limited for usage in the city, so useless for most ppl.

  • @Woodywater
    @Woodywater 9 місяців тому

    Why do you keep doing these videos riding a Surron? I could be cleaning my hot tub and do the same exact video with the picture of Talaria dragon quit being a wanker

    • @electricisbetter
      @electricisbetter  9 місяців тому +2

      Sorry for being a wanker, but we only had these 4 pictures of the bike at the time of making the video. I figured people would want to look at the pictures of the new bike while speaking on it :)

  • @robmccabe8736
    @robmccabe8736 9 місяців тому

    nice😄