Train Derails on Camera and Starts Bridge Fire!

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • Skip to derailment: 17:07
    In August of 2021, we visited the Portland & Western Railroad of Oregon to document the Toledo District between Albany and its namesake city. Although we didn't get to record much of the line, the experience we walked away with was much more than we bargained for!
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  • @DelayInBlockProductions
    @DelayInBlockProductions  Рік тому +128

    Skip to the derailment: 17:07
    Subscribe to Dan's channel here: www.youtube.com/@TheRailfanDan
    A quick note to those who want to virtue signal, claiming we broke the law by transmitting via radio to the train crew:
    1. There is absolutely no cell phone service along most of the Toledo District so calling the emergency number on the grade crossing tag would have been pointless.
    2. Even if we could have reached the railroad, calling that number would have added a 2-3 minute delay.
    3. That delay would have meant the train would have cleared Eddyville where there’s a switch to a small siding. If the boxcar picked the switch, the cars would have almost certainly flipped over, causing much more damage and potentially harming several nearby residences.
    4. Neither Dan nor I knew that the handheld Baofeng radio he was using was outlawed a few years ago. That being said, thousands of railfans use that brand to listen in on communications. That's not a justification for owning or using one but more so an observation. Now that we're more educated about this brand, we won't ever use it to listen to railroads in the future and will do our best to educate others about the illegality of said brand.
    5. The Amateur Radio Rules has an emergency communication clause that reads:
    97.403 Safety of life and protection of property.
    No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station of any means of radio communication at its disposal to provide essential communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human life and immediate protection of property when normal communication systems are not available.
    You armchair railroad and communications lawyers can pound sand. If we took your advice, the railroad would've had a much more serious situation on its hands and the residents of Eddyville would have been put at risk of serious injury or property damage.
    On another note, thank you to those who gave insight about stepping out of the vehicle to transmit. We hope we never have to encounter a situation like this one again, but knowing this information in an area where there is no cellphone reception is very helpful.
    -Drayton

    • @TheCSXrailfanner
      @TheCSXrailfanner Рік тому +1

      How convenient lol

    • @occamsrazor9183
      @occamsrazor9183 Рік тому +1

      I have friends that live in Toledo, on the hills overlooking the mill...

    • @scottyj8135
      @scottyj8135 Рік тому +6

      FFS 😂 I was waiting to see how they fixed it or did they get a crane to pick it up and put back on tracks. 🤔🤔

    • @lucasguimont8845
      @lucasguimont8845 Рік тому +4

      I went to school in Eddyville with Josh. Lived rughtnon that track 5 miles up Nashville rd. Cool to see my home on the internet

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW Рік тому +2

      All the more reason to install more trackside detectors! Who knows much the damage that "minor" derailment caused over a couple of miles will cost to fix?

  • @erict5234
    @erict5234 Рік тому +655

    Great job guys, as a railroad employee I can't stress enough how much you guys saved the day. Railfans often get a bad reputation. Your attention to what was abnormal, stopping that train and putting out the bridge fire saved the company big money. Again, fantastic job!
    For future reference, use the # (on the blue tag) at the crossing to contact the railroad to make them alert of any problems... that's what it's there for.

    • @DelayInBlockProductions
      @DelayInBlockProductions  Рік тому +131

      Thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately, because of how remote the Toledo District is, we had no cell service. Contacting them over the radio was the fastest way we could alert them.

    • @filanfyretracker
      @filanfyretracker Рік тому +28

      ahh so that number on the crossing is for any emergency involving the rail line at that spot, Somehow I always figured it was just for a broken signal or obstructed crossing such as a vehicle broken down or stuck. Guessing if you do not catch the engine number the dispatch will know what train should be at that crossing at that moment?

    • @williamscoggin1509
      @williamscoggin1509 Рік тому

      What you just said at the end of your comment is a problem that is grown out of proportion. The railroad like so many other companies wanting everyone to contact them on Facebook or Twitter, instead of an emergency phone number which could at least connect you directly to a messaging machine that someone would be around.. Facebook and other social media have driven so many people away from their platform from all the bull crap that they have pulled over the last few years and all the using of everyone's information illegally getting the customer completely saturated with scams and annoyances. If there had been a simple dedicated phone number where you can leave a quick message and the machine notify whoever at headquarters that there is a new message on the problem line everything would have been fixed so much quicker. It could have been called in from the first crossing where they spotted the problem instead of having to chase the train down. Customers are just shunned by corporations these days that do not want to talk to anyone. Or if they do have a number to call they have a list of options and a lot of times there is no option for what you're calling about until you can't select the number.

    • @erict5234
      @erict5234 Рік тому +29

      @@williamscoggin1509 Very true, social media has taken over a lot. The blue tags with the emergency phone numbers are required at all DOT crossings. That number is directly connected to whatever railroad company owns that crossing. On the UPRR the phone number goes to RMCC (risk management / railroad police) They have a direct line to train dispatchers, who can act quickly in an emergency.

    • @trenano
      @trenano Рік тому +23

      Railfans are good people on your country; I'm just a HO trainfan from Chile and we don´t have to huge train here.

  • @SOT03Y
    @SOT03Y Рік тому +632

    I am a train driver here in Australia, and in a "derailment school" we were told one of the worst things you can do is to go in to emergency with a derailed car as the hard braking can cause the cars to bunch up and heavier cars and lift lighter cars up off the tracks, so a moderate braking application is a safer option. I was involved in a derailment back in 2016 and we gave it a 100KPA/15psi reduction came to a nice gentle but firm stop and we were commended for our actions. Anway, a bit of food for thought, another great video mate, and well done for alerting the crew. You guys saved the day from what could have been a far worse outcome.

    • @badgerattoadhall
      @badgerattoadhall Рік тому +15

      is it true in Australia that different states have different rail gauges?

    • @buckstarchaser2376
      @buckstarchaser2376 Рік тому +27

      I figure that the the train driver was reacting to the people with cameras that he'd seen the previous 2 crossings, now suddenly flapping their arms like emergency-birds. Clearly, someone was putting in the effort to insist on his response, and not that the "that means it's working" hand and arm gesture actually meant anything to the train guy.

    • @Reigns_Trains
      @Reigns_Trains Рік тому +3

      Knock it off come on now. A train driver?

    • @standardaussie
      @standardaussie Рік тому +5

      My dad and uncle Dave drove/drives for rural v line frieght in vic. You close?

    • @standardaussie
      @standardaussie Рік тому +41

      @@Reigns_Trains ooh engineer, conductor.
      We don't care for pointless feelgood titles here mate. Get over yourselves ay.

  • @nickbarker1191
    @nickbarker1191 Рік тому +110

    My grandfather lives a short walk from the spot where this occurred. I remember him mentioning it in passing, but had no idea it was documented like this. What are the chances....talk about being in the right place at the right time. Awesome video, thanks for sharing!

    • @3vpme2
      @3vpme2 Рік тому

      Did he finger you in the shower like ol joe biden?

  • @whoever6458
    @whoever6458 Рік тому +65

    As a former firefighter, thanks for putting that fire out because it doesn't take much for a large wildfire to develop and it always starts small like that. Usually, people don't notice until it's already big enough that it's probably going to take at least an entire day to put it out. If you have wind and/or dry conditions, it can turn deadly and almost certainly damaging really quickly and that's when you're talking about a long fire fight to get it out. Always best to catch it while it's still small and a 5 gallon bucket does the trick. It's definitely worth walking down the train bridge to do, especially since you know there almost certainly won't be a train seeing as how that derailed boxcar will be blocking the line for a time until they can get it back on the rail and moved out of there. I walk down a train bridge once on a dare and it scared the shit out of me even though I could see pretty far in both directions and there wasn't a train, plus I could see the lights for the track and they were all off. Wouldn't ever do that again for money or anything else unless I knew there was something like a derailment blocking the track. Even still, if another train did mistakenly end up going down that track, you'd end up as the meat in a train sandwich.

    • @farLander1
      @farLander1 Рік тому +1

      All we need to remember is the fate of 'ol Stobe. It's a real shame he had to go that way but it's a grim reminder why you don't walk along tracks, especially with no escape route.

    • @DavidKehley
      @DavidKehley Рік тому

      Plus trying to getting to a fire like this could be very difficult to get to

    • @LordPhobos6502
      @LordPhobos6502 Рік тому +1

      Seconding this.
      Also, as a rail worker, normally I would say NEVER trespass on the rail corridor for your safety and the safety of others.
      However, you know the line is blocked by the derailed train, which is not going anywhere, as well as providing an emergency service putting out that fire.

    • @TimeSurfer206
      @TimeSurfer206 Рік тому

      Consider those timbers are treated with creosote. Once it starts afire, it's equal to a combo of coal and Diesel.

  • @EvanBallinger13
    @EvanBallinger13 Рік тому +59

    All of you guys should be commended for notifying the crew of the derailment AND for spotting the fire before it became a problem! I've seen enough fire destruction for one life time. I live in Sonoma County, California and saw the Tubbs Fire wipe out so much of my hometown of Santa Rosa. The fire burned for almost a month and it was sickening to see. Stay safe guys!

    • @tucobenedicto109
      @tucobenedicto109 Рік тому +5

      Red flag or a fusee can stop a train, from the head end, or wave your arms side to side or with a flashlight the same. I would say the fusee is a fire source so last resort. They saved the bridge, and removed a big fire fight! Great video!

  • @NorthCountryTrains
    @NorthCountryTrains Рік тому +155

    You guys always catch the CRAZIEST stuff, and your professional videography and production as well as assisting everyone involved in these incidents is top notch.

    • @panamrailways7327
      @panamrailways7327 Рік тому +6

      hey old friend

    • @NorthCountryTrains
      @NorthCountryTrains Рік тому +3

      @@jonboll-LGM sounds like a… RAILFAN THEORY?

    • @hugbar3910
      @hugbar3910 Рік тому +2

      @@jonboll-LGM Siiiiii... Seguramente!!!!!!... Ustedes los estadounidenses nos han inspirado al resto de los americanos las teorías conspirativas 😎😀😀😀.
      Hablando en serio, muy bueno el video 👍.

    • @Enjoyer.762
      @Enjoyer.762 Рік тому

      @Jon Boll That is absolutely what the railroads and crews think about railfans.

    • @MrPaxio
      @MrPaxio Рік тому

      plot twist they derailed it themselves and started the fire

  • @turnerdeedo4633
    @turnerdeedo4633 Рік тому +186

    Because that car derailed to the right side of the track, it would have been REALLY bad if it had gotten to that switch just past the crossing. You guys saved the day and stopped the train just in time!

    • @Vulpine407
      @Vulpine407 Рік тому +12

      Bet that's why the engineer decided on an emergency stop rather than a gradual one. I'd like to hear from an expert, though.

    • @KDubielak
      @KDubielak Рік тому +2

      Do we have any idea what caused the derailment

    • @ChadDidNothingWrong
      @ChadDidNothingWrong Рік тому +4

      @@KDubielak wheels probably come with a side of fried rice

    • @scrap5407
      @scrap5407 Рік тому +3

      aye a fellow scrap mechanic train enthusiast? lol

    • @turnerdeedo4633
      @turnerdeedo4633 Рік тому

      @@scrap5407 Yes I am! Check out my workshop if you want to.

  • @KBuckyRailVideo
    @KBuckyRailVideo Рік тому +127

    Great work guys! A big step toward good relations between the railroads and railfans.

  • @pinemeadowshobbyfarmafruga8319
    @pinemeadowshobbyfarmafruga8319 Рік тому +42

    Great jobs Dudes. As an Oregonian living with wildfires in the mountains around my homestead, I am grateful for the keen eye of that resident and the braveness of Dan to walk the track and douse the flames.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому +5

      It isn't tooooo brave when the only train on the line to worry about is stopped a few hundred yards away. That's how bridge fires start, though, and I'm really glad Mr. Rariden noticed the smoke in the first place!

  • @GLICKMIRE
    @GLICKMIRE Рік тому +46

    I was a railroad crew shuttle driver for over 20 years and on several occasions, I used the bottled drinking water to put out cross tie fires. It happens more often than you might think.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому +3

      I caught some smoldering fires from a train probably 20 years ago in my hometown. I called the fire department.

    • @boxlid214
      @boxlid214 Рік тому +5

      It was likely those large peeled off shavings of steel, you know those are going to be hot when they fall off there

  • @drummachine434
    @drummachine434 Рік тому +44

    Congratulations, you officially have the YTs best camera quality and stability of a train derailment

    • @supralapsarian
      @supralapsarian Рік тому +1

      True to this day, which is saying something given the events of the last few weeks!

  • @thomasmackowiak
    @thomasmackowiak Рік тому +46

    Splendid video, Drayton! I enjoyed the drone footage of the train as it was slowly making its way along the tracks. You and Railfan Dan were at the right place at the right time to see that boxcar that derailed. It was a good thing that you two were able to get to that railroad crossing in Eddyville, Oregon to flag down the train. You two saved a disaster from happening. It was nice to see Railfan Dan in this video. I have been a subscriber of Dan's UA-cam channel for at least two years. I enjoy watching Dan's videos and I usually comment on his videos. Dan in turn usually takes the time to read my comments and answers my comments. When you announced early in 2021 that you were going to Oregon to take videos, I was hoping that you would contact Railfan Dan to obtain information about the various railroads in Oregon.

    • @TheRailfanDan
      @TheRailfanDan Рік тому +8

      Glad you saw this one Thomas! I was pretty excited when Drayton reached out to me to see about spending some time together and show him around. It was a pleasure to be able to do so and the next time he comes out anywhere West of the Rockies I hope to meet up with him. We had a great time and what an adventure it turned out to be in the end!

    • @thomasmackowiak
      @thomasmackowiak Рік тому +4

      @@TheRailfanDanI am glad that you and Drayton were able to collaborate on this video. I hope that you two worked together on a few more videos while Drayton was out in Oregon. Thank you for showing Drayton around your stomping grounds!

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому +2

      @@TheRailfanDan Must feel good to be a hero for a day! Rip that shirt off and put on some spandex and a cape!

    • @TheRailfanDan
      @TheRailfanDan Рік тому

      @@jovetj Haha!

  • @goodeye03
    @goodeye03 Рік тому +12

    G&W should give him a Golden Spike award for saving them so much money. Great video...

  • @7ideaproductions
    @7ideaproductions Рік тому +25

    Great video! Good job guys!

    • @DelayInBlockProductions
      @DelayInBlockProductions  Рік тому +15

      Thank you so much. To receive a comment like this from you is of the highest honor. I watched so many of your productions on RFD-TV with my Grandad when I was a little kid and always hoped to make videos as good as yours are one day. Thank you for all you’ve done. -Drayton

  • @cronicpain1015
    @cronicpain1015 Рік тому +19

    Great video. My grandpa worked for the TP&W/ Santa Fe railroad out out Peoria illinois on the derailment crew for 35 years. He retired and would train watch a lot. He passed away in 2000. He would be proud of y’all for what y’all did. So thank you and keep making great videos

  • @MarylandAreaRailfan
    @MarylandAreaRailfan Рік тому +11

    Wow! You all helped a lot, I’d imagine there’d be a million more in damage if you didn’t stop them with those two switches and long trestle it stopped on. There was a similar situation I helped a G&W crew avoid extensive damage when I spotted a very large tree down just around a blind curve, I was able to notify the crew soon enough for them to just ease up to the tree’s location.

  • @shawnr761
    @shawnr761 Рік тому +68

    This is why true honest railfans are good for a railrod

    • @Terk131
      @Terk131 Рік тому +2

      Very true.

    • @kishansn3145
      @kishansn3145 Рік тому

      Railfanning in india is against the law according to railway police force!😔

    • @robertdale8758
      @robertdale8758 Рік тому

      I flipped around 200 trains with there own spikes I'm really into trains ask your mum.

    • @robertdale8758
      @robertdale8758 Рік тому

      HA

    • @Eginhardt
      @Eginhardt Рік тому

      @@kishansn3145 What do you mean recording video?

  • @stevenrosen9895
    @stevenrosen9895 Рік тому +15

    A lot has been said about the incident, and it's great you were there to help. My comment is about the videography. Stunning! Especially the drone shots, and the quality of the video, that brought out the lushness of the area and the gentle, slow crossing of the countryside by the train. A great video all around, with beauty, excitement, great shots and heroics! You guys make great videos!

  • @kentslocum
    @kentslocum Рік тому +13

    As a resident of Eugene who grew up next to the huge railroad sidings, I've always wondered where those cars are coming from, and where they're headed. It's nice to learn about Toledo and how it connects to the rest of the rail network.

  • @ffjsb
    @ffjsb Рік тому +19

    FYI, if you have to use water on a fire in creosote soaked timbers or ties, add at least a quarter cup of dish or laundry detergent to it. (per 5 gal. bucket) That will break the surface tension of the water and help it soak into the wood. You can see how much plain water beads up and just runs off the wood. There's usually a lot of cracks or fissures in the wood, and it can smoulder internally for HOURS.

  • @brianhickey5949
    @brianhickey5949 Рік тому +17

    Wow! An epic adventure from what started as a simple railfan video shoot. You folks are impressive! Thank you for your efforts in avoiding a much larger accident and your fire control. Kudos!

  • @kriscook2423
    @kriscook2423 Рік тому +14

    Awesome work. I loved the history lesson and the videography was superb. It was wonderful of you to help out and flag down the train and keep the fire in check. I respect that kindness and responsibility.

  • @SilentSooYun
    @SilentSooYun Рік тому +9

    It's strange... I haven't done any model railroading in years, yet suddenly my recommends are full of railroad videos. THIS video makes me want to take up the hobby again! This line is absolutely gorgeous and ticks ALL my boxes: mirror-like river running through forested mountain, wooden tressel bridges, tunnels, tree tunnels, and slow-moving bright orange engines that draw the attention

  • @sgttombailes3380
    @sgttombailes3380 Рік тому +13

    When I was a kid, I grew up on the Gainesville Midland RR. The old steamers started fires all the time w/ the sparks they produced. I'm 70 now and I still remember that so well.

  • @wiserman100
    @wiserman100 Рік тому +10

    All involved are real heroes. I hope the RR reaches out to you for recognition. Thanks for your actions that undoubtedly saved property and perhaps lives.

    • @Enjoyer.762
      @Enjoyer.762 Рік тому +1

      Probably will blame them and claim they "caused" the derailment.

  • @lregis68
    @lregis68 Рік тому +20

    You guys did a great job. Most railroaders will appreciate the positive interaction with the railfans. It's the foamers and "know-it-alls" that are less appreciated.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому +2

      Yep, I really despise the ignorance that labels all railfans as "foamers." The term foamer is a well-deserved pejorative that only applies to a select number.

    • @Enjoyer.762
      @Enjoyer.762 Рік тому

      @@jovetj Which select number is that lol?

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому +1

      @@Enjoyer.762 The actual foamers the term was coined for.

    • @Enjoyer.762
      @Enjoyer.762 Рік тому

      @Jovet So name these foamers, Slick.

    • @rustyc521
      @rustyc521 Рік тому

      Definition of Foamers:track side masturbators know it all about trains!🤷‍♂️

  • @jenniferbutcher8393
    @jenniferbutcher8393 Рік тому +9

    Drayton, please don't be a stranger!! And welcome Dave, your narrative style is wonderful!

  • @stephenhudson8739
    @stephenhudson8739 Рік тому +12

    It's good that those guys were there and they were able to catch up with the train to notify the conductor and the engineer

  • @poowg2657
    @poowg2657 Рік тому +7

    Love the slug with the little dynamic blister, model railroading stuff there. A-1 response on the trestle fire, well done.

  • @captainkeyboard1007
    @captainkeyboard1007 Рік тому +6

    I like your explanation describing slug cars and I learned that they are not electrically powered on their own. The shots taken by the drone are remarkable.

  • @SgtDexterGrif
    @SgtDexterGrif Рік тому +7

    The narration here is fantastic. Extremely educated and the same tone that made “How It’s Made” famous and easy to listen to, as well as connect with. Great work. Further incredible quick action to solve the fire and mediate damage

  • @ivanoffw
    @ivanoffw Рік тому +8

    Wow, a great video of some local action, and I did not have to correct your pronunciation, instead I got to enjoy a well made video. I am glad that you teamed up with Railfan Dan and were able to use some of his drone footage. Thank you for explaining the slug's use. Pre pandemic, I used to see the Toledo Hauler travel through OSU campus with two slugs.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому

      I don't get to see slugs outside of yards, so that was a surprise to me!

  • @littlejohnny4470
    @littlejohnny4470 Рік тому +2

    He's a little FYI regarding the Baofeng handheld transceivers, as well as most other brand handheld units... They're usually dual band, VHF and UHF. You can monitor all the frequencies that you can access, BUT the radios are restricted to transmitting only on Ham Radio frequencies. And to do that, you need a Ham Radio license, except in an emergency.
    The Railroads usually operate in the 160Mhz range, which is outside of the Ham Radio frequency range. Baofeng radios are programmed from the factory to only transmit in the Ham Radio ranges. So even if you do try to transmit on a railroad frequency, they'll never hear it, because the radio is not transmitting. The same applies to radio frequencies in the UHF band as well.
    PS, Baofeng radios are not illegal to own and monitor. But you do require a license to transmit.

  • @tomroise9426
    @tomroise9426 Рік тому +9

    Excellent video. Amazing timing that you were there to help them. The damage you prevented could have been catastrophic.
    Hope this one goes viral.

  • @ferky123
    @ferky123 Рік тому +2

    It seems that getting rid of the guy at the back is a bad idea.

  • @dshack4689
    @dshack4689 Рік тому +6

    What a great variety of things to cover in the one episode! Well done on doing all you could to assist. Would be lovely if the railroad recognised your efforts as you've saved them many thousands in further damage to the track. I do wonder if any improperly dimensioned grade crossing might have been the cause; or one with too tight a tolerance that after being shaken by the passing train shifted slightly to become out of tolerance? One of the crossing in the shot it looked like it featured brickwork.

  • @BaltimoreAndOhioRR
    @BaltimoreAndOhioRR Рік тому +2

    That was an interesting story! It looks like nice country out there. The cabless yard slug was an extra bonus. Well done all around!

  • @owenlinton5647
    @owenlinton5647 Рік тому +6

    the scenery on that layout is top notch! well done to all for making the video 😀

  • @claztube
    @claztube Рік тому +1

    Am I wrong here, but the blue railcar that derailed was from Norfolk/Southern Railroad?
    That being the railroad recently (03February2023) that derailed at East Palestien, Ohio.
    I reviewed the video and was correct in my query.
    What a coincidence.

  • @Railfan_Midwest
    @Railfan_Midwest Рік тому +8

    Awesome video like always! Glad you guys were at the right place at the right time. Keep up the good work!

  • @brianrigsby7900
    @brianrigsby7900 3 місяці тому +1

    3:36 rc engines?😂😂😂😂 they could turn on the rc mode to grab a quick nap and then take back manual control when they wake up😂😂😂 74 miles at only 10 mph seems like a loooong ride😂😂😂😂😂

  • @revharrycwigmoreiii5787
    @revharrycwigmoreiii5787 Рік тому +21

    Great video, thankful for your action in reaching the train engineer and the damage could have been much worse. Your attention to trains saved this one and bridge, Good Job, Guys!!!

  • @googoo-gjoob
    @googoo-gjoob Рік тому +1

    15:22 seen here below the STOP sign, a blue sign with emergency info is at EVERY RR Xing in America.
    on this sign is the name of the RR, a phone number to them, the milepost of the Xing as well as the DOT #.
    if you see a derailment, washout, vehicle on the track,,, any emergency, dial that number right away.
    they will be able to radio the train.

  • @captainhuggyface6731
    @captainhuggyface6731 Рік тому +4

    why isnt drayton narrating?

  • @gebass6479
    @gebass6479 Рік тому +1

    I'm surprised that the authorities haven't prosecuted you guys for trespassing,reporting the derailment and helping put out that fire.
    I'm not saying they should,but in this world "No good deed goes unpunished"

  • @BudTheDrummer
    @BudTheDrummer Рік тому +6

    Congratulations to all involved! As a 60 year Fan of the NY,NH&HRR, around the corner from me where I lived in CT for 19 years, there was a daily Freight Train that stopped a half mile from where I stood Train Watching. There was a Crew change in Cedar Hill Yard, NB. There were also SB Freight Trains and Passenger service 24/7 with a big curve in both directions. SB traffic would be slowing for New Haven Union Station so sparks from brakes was common. Also, rolling stock did not yet have roller bearings so hot boxes were also common. There were grass fires along the tracks. Between the creosole oil, lube oil, fuel oil and grease built up on the ties, they easily ignited. I would try to put out those fires as I had a good 1/4 mile line of sight in either direction and if it got bad I rode my bike two blocks and told the Fire Fighters at Our local Fire House who would bring an Engine (#10 or #7) with Indian Packs to put out the fires.

    • @Enjoyer.762
      @Enjoyer.762 Рік тому

      The Poughkeepsie NY New Haven RR bridge across the Hudson River burned down back after the Conrail takeover.

  • @yettimannettii2039
    @yettimannettii2039 Рік тому +1

    Good job guys on helping with damage and fire prevention. Way too much forestry ie timber along this line for this fire risk to happen.

  • @arkie74
    @arkie74 Рік тому +3

    yeah, its something you dont see every day!
    when I was 10, I saw 9 loaded coal cars and the caboose turn over. we were going across the crossing just as it made the curve, and over she went! all except the caboose, but it was at a 45* angle. it threw the conductor out of the cupula and against the front door knocking him out. it was a sight! seeing rails bent and mangled like that. but this was before welded rail, the tracks were in bad shape. it was 1982 I think, and the KCS had not improved their rails and equipment yet, but the KCS was always slow about such things. they tended to wait to see if other roads had luck with new locomotives, and good track. altho they were the buyers of the first sd 40-2 that rolled off the line.
    yeah thats something you dont see every day!

  • @phillycheesetake
    @phillycheesetake Рік тому +1

    The graffiti tags on the railway cars make them look ugly.
    It's almost impossible to take a photo of a train without some cretin's "art" all over the side of it. Completely selfish.

  • @dannyh8288
    @dannyh8288 Рік тому +4

    I had a Varney brand HO set in the late 1960s and I suffered from derailments ALL THE TIME! Sure wish I had someone alerting me!! Good job!

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one taken back to model railroad days!

  • @ryansutherland3401
    @ryansutherland3401 Рік тому +1

    have you considerd having two red flags two signal lamps and 5 railway hivis vests in the car 1 vest per seat ? i have a emergency flag pouch that has red flags my railway evacuation vest a whistle a signal torch and rope so if im needed i can tie the red flag or lamp to a post or tree

  • @skayt35
    @skayt35 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for explaining the slugs! I'm not a railfanner, but it makes perfect sense under the circumstances. As the line seems to have a high portion of curves and has to be driven at an unusually slow speed, I can understand the railroad company preferring this configuration versus standard 6-axle locomotives. Thanks also for acting resolutely on the twofold incident!

  • @stevehughes5403
    @stevehughes5403 Рік тому +3

    Nice Video, a beautiful location. Glad the Train Crew responded to you. You guys did great job, I am sure the Bridge fire would have smoldered until it burnt down if you had not gone into action. The Train Company should give you a Citizen of the year medal.

  • @raydunakin
    @raydunakin Рік тому +1

    It's kind of shocking how much damage was caused just from dragging one derailed truck.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому

      Not shocking to me. Those flanges are thin and the train car is _heavy!_

  • @djteako
    @djteako Рік тому +3

    Great video with great narrative and information !!!! My first thought was "why are they using GP's instead of SD's, and you explained that well.My second thought was on that slug, which you also explained extremely well - I have never seen a slug with dynamic brakes! I think your handling of the derailment and notifying the crew was awesome, and as you said, gives us railfans a good mark in their eyes for a change, instead of just being a nuisance . Very well done!

  • @MrWc867
    @MrWc867 Рік тому +1

    Sir Topham Hat would have blamed the engines for the troublesome box car.

  • @gnnascarfan2410
    @gnnascarfan2410 Рік тому +4

    Stuff like this is why I always note the cell phone number on grade crossings when railfanning at stations. I have only called a few times to report trespassers to the dispatcher and they take it seriously thankfully.

  • @yeetintong
    @yeetintong 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Good thing you guys were there. Well done! That is some nice country in that area.

  • @NaoPb
    @NaoPb Рік тому +4

    Great shots. And interesting to learn about the sludge.
    Good thing you guys managed to alert the train crew. And that you managed to put out that (beginning of a) fire on the bridge.

  • @marksullivan5859
    @marksullivan5859 Рік тому +1

    Jeez the completely stripped the whole hill of every stick of wood nothing to hold the soil in place but that's typical greed

  • @jacoblarsen6974
    @jacoblarsen6974 Рік тому +4

    Great vid. Really appreciate the historical background and the areal photography. Hope to see the next vid. of the area.

  • @Robert-qt9lg
    @Robert-qt9lg Рік тому +1

    Isn't this character on the main picture the one that sells liquid rubber to seal your boat is he going to put some liquid rubber on the train to keep it from leaking

  • @stevecartagena9410
    @stevecartagena9410 Рік тому +3

    We witnessed a UP coal train derailment west of Fairbury NE. We were camping when I heard the train coming at a fairly high speed. The train didn’t sound right so I looked up just as the first car derailed. It was an incredible sight with the noise and rail cars laying over tearing up track and spilling coal. The momentum of the train was amazing it seemed it would never stop. I no longer sit close to a crossing when stopped by a train. Nice video.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому +1

      Greetings fellow Nebraskan!

  • @graememckay9972
    @graememckay9972 Рік тому +1

    Currently sitting waiting to collect my freight train in Scotland so I hope this isn't an omen.

  • @somethingsomeonesaid6455
    @somethingsomeonesaid6455 Рік тому +4

    It looks to me like something hit one of the trucks in question. As it goes by the first time, and as shown later, the sides of the springs and trucks have fresh gouge-like scrapes on thier sides; a rock falling off a mountain would do that...or a truck large enough at a crossing. Non of the trailing cars behind the blue one were derailed.

    • @-HDK-
      @-HDK- Рік тому +2

      It's more than likely damaged received from plowing below grade at crossings or guardrails near a track turnout.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому +1

      I was guessing contact with the gauge side of the rail did that.

  • @northernohiorailfanningpro8899

    “There’s a fire on the Trestle! Anyhow-“
    Omg I died laughing even though I shouldn’t have 😂😂

  • @Myn6211
    @Myn6211 Рік тому +3

    I was glad the smouldering fire was so easily extinguished given that those rail ties are soaked in creosote. Major disaster averted for certain.

  • @kenjcm
    @kenjcm Рік тому +1

    24:05 I know it isn't, but that looks like a firing pin on the bottom left of the screen lol.

  • @stephensaasen8589
    @stephensaasen8589 Рік тому +3

    Glad you saw the smoldering bridge and put it out. I'm betting there was a very good chance that would have taken off and burned the entire bridge. Wooden ties combined with creosote make them easy burners.

  • @judieg.7945
    @judieg.7945 Рік тому +1

    Wildfires out of nowhere, no, they are from somewhere and someones.

  • @bryanlosen3262
    @bryanlosen3262 Рік тому +3

    It took me a while before I figured out this rail line is out west!! The terrain clued me in. There are Toledo, Oregon sister cities in Ohio!!

  • @hgbugalou
    @hgbugalou Рік тому +2

    I find it funny how a bunch of geeks with a childhood love for something big and mechanical like trains and airplanes amass to a group large enough to actually prevent accidents and report suspicious activity. Some of them can go a little too far, but overall these communities are nothing but love and this is a great example of that. I am more on the plane side of things, but I still appreciate what happened here.

  • @louGriggs1944
    @louGriggs1944 Рік тому +4

    Great that you were able to notify the crew. Also great that you spotted the bridge smoldering. Thanks.

  • @Venx84
    @Venx84 Рік тому +1

    omg i worked at national steel railcar as a security guard :D

  • @LoneStarRails
    @LoneStarRails Рік тому +3

    That's being great ambassadors of rail-fanning. All lines should appreciate the extra eyes we provide. That said I think they should invest in a few defect detectors.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому

      LOL! Defect detectors would be something to think about.

  • @stephanieparker1250
    @stephanieparker1250 8 місяців тому +1

    Glad there’s an old hound dog there to supervise! ❤

  • @fordguy8792
    @fordguy8792 Рік тому +3

    Talk about perfect timing! Your intervention saved a ton more damage and things could have been much worse for the next train. Really cool to see rail fans in action!

  • @chrisbuhneing3194
    @chrisbuhneing3194 Рік тому +1

    So the this guys crossing caused the derailment.

  • @Dannyedelman4231
    @Dannyedelman4231 Рік тому +3

    If the derailment was the albany incident the UPRR said that it was a broken rail

  • @CrybKeeper
    @CrybKeeper Рік тому +1

    OH CRAP! It's that *same* 'robot voice' guy!!!! This robot voice is used in *1000's* of You Tube videos! Lazy and insulting uploaders abound!

  • @annem8152
    @annem8152 Рік тому +5

    I was amazed at how much damage was done to the tracks.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому

      Yes, it is amazing. It's never a repair bill any railroad (especially a small one) wants.

  • @cherylsims5636
    @cherylsims5636 Рік тому +2

    Hi guys, I could just imagine what would have happened if that train was going more than 10MPH. With those steel wheels running over older ties they have got repairs to do. Did you ever find the exact spot of derailment? I looked at the car but hard to tell what happened. With a handheld radio you can't be in your car, that's why they didn't pick you up. Try standing on top of your cars roof if there's a next time. Good job catching the fire. Cheryl CSX Engineer

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому +1

      It would be interesting to know how the derailment happened. I'm sure the RR investigated but I doubt we'll ever know.

    • @cherylsims5636
      @cherylsims5636 Рік тому +1

      @@jovetj Oh easy to tell if I was up there, but I'm down with CSX in Florida

  • @robertpagetfilms
    @robertpagetfilms Рік тому +3

    Quality ground based camera work, and superb drone skills.

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape Рік тому +1

    For a long time after the Sept 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, railroads were calling cops on railfans a lot. Stuff like this shows why having a bad relationship with ordinary fans is a bad policy.

  • @bryanerde2564
    @bryanerde2564 Рік тому +4

    Great to see such public spirited chaps! It was a pity about the derailment but thanks for the wonderful scenery.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому

      Derailments are not rare, especially minor ones. The important thing is that no one is hurt, or worse, killed.

  • @markissboi3583
    @markissboi3583 Рік тому +1

    Every time i watch a train Video i,m checking the condition of the Railyway tracks
    80% Pussent need replacing repairs sleepers and bolts rattling loose its the wonder how they stay on the tracks
    Australian railways replaced millions of old wooden sleepers years ago with a concrete sleepers on heavy traffic lines Havent heard of any real derailment in 10's years
    Maintenance what USA lacks so many trains derail off lines miles long carrying Dangerous toxic chemicals thru country towns Never a cit

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому

      You have no idea what you're talking about. You're just embarrassing yourself.

  • @KraziIvan
    @KraziIvan Рік тому +3

    Thinking it may be setup for the wrong month?

  • @alabamarailfanningproducti139
    @alabamarailfanningproducti139 Рік тому +1

    where can you get a radio from?

  • @rustyc521
    @rustyc521 Рік тому +3

    Great video and awesome y’all helped the crew and railroad out! Hats off to you fellas!

  • @craigbrooks7261
    @craigbrooks7261 Рік тому +1

    G’day Drayton. Could you please look into getting back to your own narrative. No disrespect to Dave Dawson, but it’s you we want to hear mate. It’s the package of your narration, and your amazing footage the got us to follow you. You didn’t get over 100 k subscribers on a promise of a different narrator. I am certain that many followers will be of the same opinion. Take care mate. Craig.💙

  • @Narpets2112
    @Narpets2112 Рік тому +3

    When the railroad through my city was still SP owned, 2 trains derailed behind our house, both times as they went through a switch. They subsequently took the switch out and abandoned the spur.

  • @derekf85
    @derekf85 Рік тому +1

    Can I just say great video while also saying I miss you narrating the video? The computer voice guy just seems uncanny.

  • @HoosierDaddy_
    @HoosierDaddy_ Рік тому +3

    I wonder what caused that boxcar to derail on such a slow track?? That trestle fire was scary. I'm glad someone caught it before it lit up! Great job guys!

    • @SportyMabamba
      @SportyMabamba Рік тому

      Given that it was only 1 wheel set on 1 wagon, I suspect tight track curvature increased friction to the point the wheel’s angle of attack hit the critical value and it climbed up and over the rail.

  • @TanjoGalbi
    @TanjoGalbi Рік тому +2

    I'm British but I lived in Canada for 9 years, some of those years was spent living right by a railroad line going to nearby factories. The city I lived in? Yep, that's right, Hamilton, where that derailed car was made! lol

  • @gothicalbany1767
    @gothicalbany1767 Рік тому +7

    For all the virtue signalers out there not familiar with the area a couple facts to consider:
    1. The nearest crossing from the point of discovering the derailment is 3700 feet away. A radio attempt is the quickest way to alert the crew. (When that failed they did manage to beat the locomotives to the nearest crossing in Eddyville, a nice save).
    2. As mentioned elsewhere there is 0.0% cell coverage in Eddyville and all surrounding areas. Making a jingle on the phone ain't going to happen.
    3. Just past the crossing they flagged the train at is the Eddyville siding. Had the derailed car picked this switch (and it would have) entropy would have had a field day. There is also an occupied house located very close to the tracks at this point.
    4. Oregon was not as green as it may seem in the video in August of 2021. If you pay attention to the hillsides near the beginning of the video you can see a lot of Douglas Fir trees with brown needles on the south facing slopes of the hill. This was a result of the record shattering heat bubble in late June of that year that put a tremendous stress on all the trees. The location of the trestle on fire is at the eastern edge of the Toledo Fire District, and the main manned station in Toledo would have required a long response time. Creosote trestle fires are very hard to put out once they get going, and the possibility of spreading to the adjacent area is real. A case in point would be the Tillamook Burn which was a series of fires (some of the largest in Oregon history) that also burned in the Coast Range of Oregon, and these started in July and August.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj Рік тому +1

      All points spot-on! That small railroad was really lucky that day.

  • @tonymckeage1028
    @tonymckeage1028 Рік тому +1

    Great Video, New Sub here, thanks for sharing

  • @icecold1950
    @icecold1950 Рік тому +3

    Awesome video. Great job alerting the train crew. It could have been much worse. 👍👍

  • @bostonrailfan2427
    @bostonrailfan2427 Рік тому +1

    i’m not a track expert so i’ll save the commentary on the amount of damage but had you not been there the fire would have spread causing who know how much damage to the line and surrounding area! it was smoking and was going to continue thanks to the creosote.
    even “small” derailments are dangerous!

  • @tuxedorailfan4630
    @tuxedorailfan4630 Рік тому +63

    I can’t watch a DIB video without Drayton narrating. This is unfortunate