I've been watching wrestling my whole life, and I remember when I went from thinking it was real, to knowing it was scripted/pre-determined and being like "ah, that makes sense". Then continuing to watch anyway with a new perspective of it not taking away the athleticism and great story telling.
As a wrestling fan, the way you described it is hilarious and on point. It's crazy how such a dumb concept can make for a great artform. We really get emotional over grown men in super hero costumes groping each other and that's beautiful.
Wrestled for 6 months, did MMA for 5 years. Took way more hits in 6 months in wrestling than I ever did in 5 years of MMA. You can’t fake being thrown off a ladder 🤷🏼♂️ scripted not fake
That's the thing... professional wrestling is pre determined but that doesn't matter to us.... you don't watch movies believing it's real, you watch it because it's entertaining
@@TheManButcher That "pro wrestling" (as it's done by the WWE) isn't real wrestling or a genuine sport. It's entertainment -- like at the circus. Maybe it should be called "carny wrestling". (It comes from the world of the carnival. The carnival organizers of the 1920s made it what it is today.)
@@TheManButcherPointing out that words mean things is extremely constructive. I've done you a great favor. ....If you are so touchy about being CORRECTED, then why open YOUR freakin' mouth?!?
"Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story" - I never heard this before, but I will try to remember it, as it relates to so much we are exposed to today. I love your content. Please, keep up the excellent work, sir.
Yes and no; there are times where you can't remove the Truth. 8 or 9 times out of 10 sure. But you can't improve yourself if you gloss over and don't improve your shortcomings, ya know? I get ya point either way.
@@lazypaladinthe quote is meant for enlightenment of how rumors are spread . Not a quote for how you should live your life . Another similarly worded quote is “nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining “ . Both quotes are pretty accurate with how society works . Just think about some of the crazy fake stories you see go viral. They go viral because people were entertained with what they thought happened and only few cared to actually fact check it
The journalist would write about wrestling being fake but really the only people who would read it would be upper/upper middle class white people in the cities. Middle to poor people in the country and cities had no idea wrestling was a work and especially immigrants who couldn’t even read had no idea so that’s why most of the famous wrestlers back then where of ethnic descent or had gimmicks that mostly appealed to poor-ish people. It wasn’t until the late 80s and especially the mid 90s when communication between great distances became common that people finally started getting wise that it was all a work. I grew up in the late 80s through the 90s in southern America and I remember all the males in my family thought WWf/WWE was fake but Memphis wrestling and the NWA was real. Just a little simplified history for anyone who wanted to know
Well he kinda mixed a few things up. The fights with the plants at the carnival were mostly percieved as real, as people had literally 0 idea of what effective fighting looks like and the fights weren't ment to be entertaining, they were still performed by knowledgable catch wrestlers with a surprising result in the end. Of course there could have been isolated incedences were the performance was not as believable and a few people might have called the guys out, but only when wrestling split from the circus and started being portrayed more like a play in front of an audience and local TV stations with the first gimmick personalities being introduced people slowly figured out that something is up and it's not 100% real. That was when this article was written and people really did not care
frenchabortion. I wrote that for anyone just looking through the comment section not for the guy himself. But even so it wouldn’t be the first time no one cared what I had to say so yeah I’ll live and be just fine lol
dbgrfdg Yeah at first it was 100% real and listening to what people had to go through training wise is scary since they had to be strong/skilled enough to take on all challengers and they better not lose and make the circus look bad or have to pay the money they advertised but almost assuredly didn’t have lol. They say amateur wrestlers decided to make a professional league so they could all get paid after they got older and couldn’t really compete with the stricter rules and younger guys of the Amateurs. But they would run into a couple problems the matches would take forever to end there are some on record lasting 5+ hours with intermissions and it was driving away business cause you can’t take bets on something you don’t want to stay and watch lol. Also the top guys would get hurt and have to be out a year or more recovering which would then hurt everyone’s bottom dollar. And a minor problem was you can’t control the outcomes which would sometimes leave the wrestler and promoter looking dumb when someone in the crowd did out wrestle them (a plant from another promoter usually). So a lot of the top guys of the time got together and started laying out fun short exciting matches where they controlled the outcome, no one got hurt and their marks stayed watched and betted on the matches win-win for everyone. But reporters who traveled around to the different matches reporting on them started to get wise to them and started reporting it was phoney. But poor people and immigrants didn’t read the papers so the sport kinda just went in that direction. The whole “people didn’t know what a fight looked liked” is true about some but the clever thing about wrestling is it’s rules (that are no longer really used unless needed in a modern match lol) but you could use a closed fist for example because if you’ve been in a fight a closed fist only takes 2-3 good punches to take you out but if you HAVE to use a open palm well maybe that has a different effect. There are a punch of little clever Nuances in the rules system to explain why it didn’t look like a fight you would see on the streets for people who had seen real fights. Even this is still very simplified history. Jim Cornette has a podcast that goes way deeper then I ever could on this subject if anyone reads this novel and wants to learn more.
Original catch wrestlers were legitimate CRIPPLERS. They could blow out an opponents knee, break vertebrae, and dislocate elbows in seconds. 'Worked' wrestling came about because they needed to be able to have competitive but SAFER matches with each other with no one going to the hospital afterwards. Wrestling became a 'work' out of necessity not design.
see the thing is, this never really changed. Even today, WWE's roster sports a healthy amount of former amateur wrestlers. And I'm not just talking about Div I cream of the crop like Brock Lesnar or Olympians like Kurt Angle or Chad Gable. You've even got some upper midcard talent like Dolph Ziggler (AKA former Kent State champion Nick Nemeth). Hell, all three of the New Day are former high school wrestlers. I wouldn't even push my luck against the guys who didn't have an amateur wrestling background, as some of them can manhandle anyone who doesn't have proper combat training. Go look up the video of Triple H taking down a rabid fan who jumped the fence and attacked Stone Cold Steve Austin.
No, this argument doesn't work. Because amateur freestyle wrestling usually doesn't result in severe injuries. The referees have actual authority in actual sports; and it's one of their principal jobs to enforce rules to prevent the serious injury of the athletes. When two genuine competitive athletes come together, the conclusion of the match is not foreordained -- it's not "fixed" (and, if it is fixed, it is no longer "sport"). 'Worked' wrestling, as you put it, is simply not wrestling. If it's choreographed and not genuinely competitive, then it is staged entertainment -- not sport or real athleticism. Circus clowning, stunt performing, vaudeville performing (etc.) isn't sport. No matter the "athleticism" required, they are entertaining performers rather than genuine athletes. Professionalism -- the pursuit of high stakes prizes -- puts pressure on any sport. It's easy for a particular sport to degenerate into choreographed physical theater and match-fixing. It takes effort on the part of baseball commissioners and the heads of boxing commissions to keep the professional leagues of their sporting disciplines from taking the road that professional catch wrestling did around the 1920s. Essentially the carnival organizers took over the organization of "professional wrestling", and knew what to do with it to keep the money rolling in. It's not deserving of the name "wrestling" or "sport" now.
@MrJm323 it is and a thousand word comment isn't gonna change that. The world sees it as wrestling and a sport. Nothing you can do to change it except bitch and moan online:) also they've banned many of the moves that were too risky and crippled many wrestlers. But okay !!
Professional wrestling is so underrated as a form of entertainment. It’s basically if stuntmen and stuntwomen are the live actors with one take, telling stories and entertaining people worldwide.
Wrestling didn't really exist in Italy. But then in the early 2000s MTV Italia started broadcasting the WWE and everyone lost their freaking MINDS. It was the first time we were exposed to American "culture" (other than mainstream Hollywood movies). They tried following that up with stuff like Monster Trucks but it never really worked as well as the WWE did. Every single boy in my school was OBSESSED with American wrestlers, the amount of money parents spent on buying merch for their kids was insane. Pencil cases, backpacks, notebooks, you name it. John Cena, Eddie Guerrero, The Undertaker and Hulk Hogan were the most famous. My cousin Tommaso tried several times doing Eddie Guerrero's "frog slam" move on my 4 year old sister. It did not end well...
WWEs struggle is, that they cater to these big investors who love to see FOX and Saudi deals and they hate controversy, especially in this era. (I mean Saudi itself is a huge controversy, but 350mill is 350mil, so what you gonna do) They are all about branding and bloating their numbers by any means. But the storylines themselves are only an afterthought. For example, the UA-cam numbers come mostly from India, The watchtime on Peacock comes from fewer people but doesn't go down much, because they make their PPVs longer and for example WrestleMania is now 2 days instead of one. They were lucky that Fox and other TV stations were competing for live sports/programming, especially in the pandemic era. That is also the reason that RAW is 3 hours long. In return though, the blandness, bad stories, long exhausting monotone shows, all this is driving away fans and many wrestling fans like me have predicted a long time ago that it is all comes crumbling down eventually when too many viewers turn off, but they keep going for a surprising long time at this point. And with Roman Reigns gaining popularity, the product getting slightly better since Vince is no longer in control, AEW being somewhat of a competetion forcing WWE to be more creative, stuff could actually become more popular now. Talking about AEW, there seems to be a need for more Wrestling of TV, since they are doing fine as well and Japanese promotions also rising in popularity here in the US. 5 years ago we only had WWE
That was a fun little video essay. It should be mentioned about the "Shoot Wrestling Days", that a few other reasons why it ended were that it wasn´t exactly audience friendly, since matches were either very short or very long and very boring, since it would usually involve little actual action, once one of them got the other into a submission hold. Not to mention that it became harder and harder to find new wrestlers, since nearly all of them came in with almost no wrestling experience and many of them came out of their first matches with career ending injuries, matches that they had earned practically nothing for participating in. It also would have seemed fair, if Roddy Piper had been mentioned along with Hulk Hogan, since not only wouldn´t Hogan have become as big as he did without Roddy. It was also Roddy, who was the first wrestling star who became known for being the star of a mainstream movie in "They Live", which brought a lot of new attention to the then WWF as well in the 80´s, whereas Hogan (with the exception of his small part in "Rocky III" and starring in the WWF´s own disaster of a movie "No Holds Barred") didn´t get into that part of it until the 90´s.
You’ve got it wrong with the origin of catch wresting and how the match went on to be fixed. At first there was some legit catch wrestling fights. But the thing is that often the opponent would end up seriously hurt or maimed ( even today, a lot of catch wrestling holds are forbidden in grappling matches because the risk of injury is too big). And that wasn’t good for business. No fights, no money. So they decided to go with a fixed fight format so they could fight several times a week and make bank.
Haven’t checked too much into there popularity stats but I’ve seen recently they had a record ticket sales for one of there upcoming PPV (or PLE). It will be interesting to see how the company does popularity wise and financially under the booking of Triple H
@@pkj2148 That's mainly due to late 2017-2022 the product was incredibly shitty. Piss poor booking, toilet humor, cringy promos, lazy storytelling, bad character development, and horrendous backstage morale all played a part in bad wrestling programming, and thus ratings plummeting. But even though the product is decent now, those viewers are most likely not going to be coming back due the damage done by Vince's horrible booking, management, and horrible understanding of what the fans actually wanted. And not to mention, a better product, won't bring old fans back.
I remember in 2019 that wwe had 45 million subscribers. And not only that, im starting to hear murmuring in school hallways and stores about it. It is slowly starting to get more popular with Triple H taking over, Logan Paul joining, and interesting storylines now taking place
Wrestling isn't about the Wrestling itself. It's about all the stories and characters _leading up to_ the Wrestling. Imagine if in the avengers movie iron man put on a speedo and boots instead of a metal suit. That's basically what professional Wrestling is.
One of the few dad bonding memories I have is sitting on the sofa and watching WWE back in the golden days. Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, the lot. I even got to meet Booker T at a signing in Woolworths. HOW 00's IS THAT
Much of our pop culture has been influenced by pro-wrestling, and pro-wrestling is freaking awesome. If you're not a fan, or simply haven't gotten around to it, search up some ways that you can get into it, you'll be glad you did.
I would argue that's not true anymore. Wrestling hasn't been that mainstream since the early 2000s. Everyone knew who Stone Cold, The Rock, and Hulk Hogan were in the 1980s and 1990s, but there are a lot of people who had/have no clue who the hell John Cena and Roman Reigns are. They're aware the WWE exists but that's about it. A lot of people under a certain age only know Dwayne Johnson as Dwayne Johnson - for his Hollywood career - not his wrestling career as The Rock. Brock Lesnar is known more for his UFC run than his original WWE run too. That's why his MMA background was incorporated heavily into his WWE gimmick when he returned to the company.
@@avuncularynx I mean it is a company, right? They do sports but they aren't the sport. Just like how WWE is a company but they do Professional Wrestling.
Just want to clarify one thing... You said Vince & co. had the rare ability to spot future megastar crossover talent like Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock, John Cena, Brock Lesnar, Dave Bautista, etc. Not true. No one who's ever succeeded at the highest levels of the WWE did so because they were overlooked gems only Vince could see. Those guys became household global icons because the system Vince operates is so complex and grueling that the people who rise to the top can go on to have success in other ventures such as Hollywood, or in Brock Lesnar's case, legitimate pro sports like the NFL & UFC. Vince isn't finding the diamonds in the rough. He's gathering the coal to feed his pressure cooker which will eventually create the diamonds. You got to have it ALL in that industry. You got to have the look; the personality; networking and politicking skills; be inexhaustible; and ambitious. Don't overlook the politicking abilities either. We've actually seen Jesse Ventura and Kane become elected public office holders after retiring from WWE also. It isn't just movie stars and prize fighters. If you can rise to the top of the classical WWE machine,* you can make it in just about anything. Hell, Chris Jericho went on to become a rock star, author, and podcaster for Chrissakes! *I say "classical WWE machine" because they've gone away from it this past decade after Vince got tired of his biggest stars like The Rock, John Cena, Dave Bautista, and Brock Lesnar walking away to other industries for more rewards than he can provide. Now, WWE kneecaps everyone with stop-start pushes, redundant storylines, surprise roll-ups instead of finishing moves, and being fed to Roman Reigns to stop everyone's momentum dead in it's tracks
i agree that the examples you have given are very true, i will add that working and traveling as much as they were would also play a factor. The pressure of constantly being that busy must be massive and something that only a handful of people ever really experience. To keep that up for 10/30 years would make just about any job or career after that feel easy or at least easier in comparison. If you watch interviews of the the undertaker, stone cold or any superstar, they were very obviously extremely passionate and proud to do what they did and if you can carry that same passion and pride over to something else there is a huge chance of success.
WWE isnt a 'sport', its a company... there are hundreds of different wrestling promotions out there, just turns out WWE is the most popular and rightly so given its history.
Casual mistake.. but WWE isn’t a sport, It’s a promotion/brand. There’s many of them like WWE, AEW, ROH, NJPW, etc. The sport you’re referring to is pro wrestling lmao Plus the only reason idiots laugh or take it as a joke and see it as pointless is because they don’t even understand the entire point of it. It’s not just fake fighting, the entire purpose is for promos being cut on the mic between wrestlers/factions, storylines being created n followed, and the emotions behind everything with it. That’s what gives it the entertainment aspect aside the crazy stunts and flips that cruiserweights pull off.
WWE is the company, pro wrestling is the sport. It's kinda like saying that UFC is the same as MMA. They are the biggest promoters in their respected sports but not the sport itself. But still a good video! You broke it down well 😁
An idea for a video would be Dominik Sky, he did a 7m backflip and in my opinion he was the first person who combined freerunning with calisthenics. Also his vidoes are insane to watch so it would be worth it.
Its closer to live theatre than a sport. Its acting and storylines in between the matches that are combination of stunt work, storytelling, psychology and crowd work.
A totally cliche example...but watch Foley/Mankind and Undertaker Hell in the Cell. To me its more legitmate than so called "pro-sports". WWE at least admits its "fake", BUT their athletes are as legitmate as any other league's players
One tiny correction…the media exposure of wrestling as fake in 30s actually DID make a pretty significant impact on its audience. English speaking readers of the New York Times, etc. got hip to it, perhaps fancied themselves too sophisticated to be duped and started showing up less. You know who *didn’t* read the New York Times? Italian and Spanish speakers…so wrestling adapted with the rise of the ethnic heroes like Bruno Sammartino, etc.
Regarding the end of this video, right now wwe is in really great shape. Spearheaded by hhh, it’s starting to cater more to the die hard then casual. Having amazing ple’s and focusing more on in ring work. And with the added competition of aew, it’s a damn good time to be a wrestling fan.
I don’t necessarily know if catering to the hardcore fans is the best way to grow the fan base. They are pretty much your core audience that is going to watch no matter what. It’s not really going to draw in the casual fans like the storylines and characters in the Attitude Era did.
@@ihatemyselflol5558 Not really, maybe if you have a class mate that actually likes wrestling but aside from that, wrestling isn't as talked about as it was before.
@@ihatemyselflol5558 right now it's more like "Who deserves to win the World Championship from Roman?" or "Who should get a big push?" Power comps are absolutely irrelevant ever since people realize wrestling is scripted, I still see debates on who is better against who and damn is it corny.
My best friend is Mideon and a few other names from the additude area. The WWE really fucked him up. Made good money, but it doesn't last and it permanently kills your body.
People don't realize, not only are the fans in on it, we're actually used by some of the better wrestlers to make it more exciting. Wrestlers will whip the crowd to a rabid frenzy to get the environment just right for people in attendance or at home. D-Generation X would talk directly to the crowd for instance. Cheap heat is when a wrestler will come out in sports team rival's jersey to anger the audience. It's interactive entertainment. And if you think crowds are ridiculous now, some wrestlers had to carry target pistols so on their way to their car they could fire off blanks that sounded like real bullets because they'd get attacked. Andre the Giant was harassed by drunks so bad he chased them out of the bar and flipped their car. Crowds are tame these days.
Good video but a little misunderstanding of different events. One noteable one is Vince wasn't just facing legal trouble in the early 90's he was facing FEDERAL charges. That's why the WWE went super kid friendly and nearly killed their company. This video should also have an update on Vince power moving his way back into control so he could sell it as a big fuck you to everyone who forced him out.
I don't watch wrestling anymore but i used to watch it when i was younger and i loved it.. i don't understand how people can say it is fake.. if you watch a movie you don't say this movie is fake.. wrestling is entertaiment.. a show they put on for their audience.. almost everybody has watched wrestling at some point.. I don't watch wrestling anymore but I still think it's great.. it's exciting and it brings people from all over the world together.. it's great man
Vince McMahon and Stone Cold Steve Austin had somewhat of a fight last April at Wrestle Mania 38 😂😂 Just don't search for his stunner on Vince it was a bit dodge 😂😂
People who are upset or make fun of other people for watching Pro Wrestling should really stop watching movies, especially considering they are a lot more fake than pro wrestling. They themselves don't even realize why they watch and enjoy movies and series so much. The story is more important than whether it's real or not because the customer ultimately cares about whether they're entertained by what they see as opposed to how real it is. Also you've gotta be stupid if you think a human being could have a 20+ year career in pro wrestling after getting smacked in the head with steel chairs, closelined and thrown into burning tables. When it's real or a wrestler isn't careful to protect their opponent, the opponent gets injured. Even a simple powerbomb has left numerous former wrestlers paralyzed due to it being delivered as if they really meant to hurt their opponent. It's also the same reason people are drawn to Super heroes. WWE, AEW and the like just bring you the hero, villain story in a live setting which is a lot harder to do than recording multiple takes and editing it to make it look real and presented on a screen.
So here it was we had what is known as a wrestling god on our hands which meant he only fought giants, monsters, and villains all the time and he was amazing 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩!!!!!! And so it was considered that the rest of the regular wrestlers wrestled for the intercontinental title and it worked great 👍👍 I loved growing up in the 80's and 90's and the best time in wrestling ever
The rules used to be set out so the most fake things didn't happen often, i.e. punches where banned so didn't get a lot of fake punchs, it was one or two at a time.
Your documentaries about sports are really interesting. Could you possibly make one about flowboarding? It’s relatively similar to the other type of sports you covered
For me I enjoyed wrestling when there were small organizations spread around the country. Especially Mid-South Wrestling with Jerry the King Lawler, Mr X, The Junkyard Dog and Jimmy Heart the mouth of the south. My Dad and I traveled around a lot and we would checkout the local wrestling scene. Everything the same everywhere you go now.
I hate when people call it fake but not looking at the part of they suffer from real injuries just like any other athlete. TBH I don’t know any other sport where you’re sometimes intentionally trying to hurt yourself
They just wanted them to change the WWF logo, the name would have still be legal, but Vince saw this as an opportunity, since he saw the sport always as "sports entertainment" and not Wrestling
At 17:50 you said that in 2021 was the first time you heard of WWE yet earlier you mentioned playing with action figures of the Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Years ago my friend got The Undertaker with Hog Bike along with a detachable cloak. Months go by and he had no idea I stole his set with a set of HW cars. Do I recall coming back playing with every action WWE figure at his place; gaming SmackDown vs. RAW on PS3. The dude didn't care as long I was his buddy.
i watched wrestling growing up thinking it was real then becoming about 11/12 and finding out it was scripted, stopped watching but picked it back up this past year with a new undertanding and mindset about it
Its stageed ? yes. But you have to properly trained. I hate hearin ppl say its fake. Dont try to diminish something we love to watch that's manipulation. Been watching wwe since 08. Long live Eddie Guerrero
What about all the kids and the abuse that was also discussed on that Donahue episode. Allegedly, they would go from town to town and take young fans to go build the ring and meet the stars. Kinda of glossed over that my good man.
Idk how people don’t realize it’s called sports entertainment, it literally is exposed and they still call it fake, we knows it’s scripted that’s the point LOL it’s literally a product that’s taking place with actors that craft their moves and what not
Very few people understood that if it was "real," it would not have been as entertaining. I remember when Ultimate Fighting first arrived on the scene, and the first fight ended in less than 2 minutes with a kick to the face. When the fights lasted longer, they became boring grappling matches on the floor, because that is how real fighting with mixed martial arts and very few holds barred ends up.
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MOTTO NOT MANTRA..
MANTRA = Sanskrit word meaning Prayers to the Gods
MOTTO = A English term meaning the philosophy you live by
I've been watching wrestling my whole life, and I remember when I went from thinking it was real, to knowing it was scripted/pre-determined and being like "ah, that makes sense". Then continuing to watch anyway with a new perspective of it not taking away the athleticism and great story telling.
Same here man. I still watch the WWE
i was fine with everything you said except i don't think pro wrestling ever have great story it just plain insane
@@dvdbox360 not all of it obviously...but when its good its great
Same here man been watching it through the highs and the lows
@@dvdbox360 yh not all dude the most recent one being Sami and the bloodline story being actually really good
As a wrestling fan, the way you described it is hilarious and on point. It's crazy how such a dumb concept can make for a great artform. We really get emotional over grown men in super hero costumes groping each other and that's beautiful.
Soap operas for men.
@@jonsturgill8868 Ong
@@mozambiquehere5903 am I wrong? Both have over have top characters, crazy sometimes entertaining story lines and last but not least the drama.
@@jonsturgill8868 I never said you're wrong bro. Just agreeing with you.
@@mozambiquehere5903sorry, I'm used to defending my comments.
WWE has been around for 70 years, Pro-Wrestling itself is well over 150 years old.
Its funny, I'm less than a minute and a half in and I can already tell this guy doesn't watch or give a shit about pro-wrestling at all.
wwe isnt a sport though stil entertaining kinda trash now though
@@alehlete830 who's comment are you replying to?
@@Robby_C eveyone including u all posssiosssssss
@@alehlete830 when did i ever say the word "sport" though?
Wrestled for 6 months, did MMA for 5 years. Took way more hits in 6 months in wrestling than I ever did in 5 years of MMA. You can’t fake being thrown off a ladder 🤷🏼♂️ scripted not fake
FACTS!
I ask this to every wrestler I see in a comment section but do you have any of your matches online?
That's the thing... professional wrestling is pre determined but that doesn't matter to us.... you don't watch movies believing it's real, you watch it because it's entertaining
But "movies" aren't sport.
@@MrJm323 what's the argument?
@@TheManButcher That "pro wrestling" (as it's done by the WWE) isn't real wrestling or a genuine sport.
It's entertainment -- like at the circus.
Maybe it should be called "carny wrestling". (It comes from the world of the carnival. The carnival organizers of the 1920s made it what it is today.)
@@MrJm323 do us a favor and keep your mouth quiet because you ain't giving constructive criticism you just talking nonsense
@@TheManButcherPointing out that words mean things is extremely constructive. I've done you a great favor. ....If you are so touchy about being CORRECTED, then why open YOUR freakin' mouth?!?
"Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story" - I never heard this before, but I will try to remember it, as it relates to so much we are exposed to today. I love your content. Please, keep up the excellent work, sir.
many canceled people would like to have a word about that
Yes and no; there are times where you can't remove the Truth. 8 or 9 times out of 10 sure. But you can't improve yourself if you gloss over and don't improve your shortcomings, ya know? I get ya point either way.
I was a big fan the WWF in the early 90s to.. I still a lot of my old WWF hasbro figures. Memories!!
@@lazypaladinthe quote is meant for enlightenment of how rumors are spread . Not a quote for how you should live your life . Another similarly worded quote is “nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining “ . Both quotes are pretty accurate with how society works . Just think about some of the crazy fake stories you see go viral. They go viral because people were entertained with what they thought happened and only few cared to actually fact check it
Idk if he came up with it but Dusty Rhodes used to say it
The journalist would write about wrestling being fake but really the only people who would read it would be upper/upper middle class white people in the cities. Middle to poor people in the country and cities had no idea wrestling was a work and especially immigrants who couldn’t even read had no idea so that’s why most of the famous wrestlers back then where of ethnic descent or had gimmicks that mostly appealed to poor-ish people. It wasn’t until the late 80s and especially the mid 90s when communication between great distances became common that people finally started getting wise that it was all a work. I grew up in the late 80s through the 90s in southern America and I remember all the males in my family thought WWf/WWE was fake but Memphis wrestling and the NWA was real. Just a little simplified history for anyone who wanted to know
He called it “Hulkmania” you think he’s gonna read that, let alone care what you have to say?
Well he kinda mixed a few things up. The fights with the plants at the carnival were mostly percieved as real, as people had literally 0 idea of what effective fighting looks like and the fights weren't ment to be entertaining, they were still performed by knowledgable catch wrestlers with a surprising result in the end. Of course there could have been isolated incedences were the performance was not as believable and a few people might have called the guys out, but only when wrestling split from the circus and started being portrayed more like a play in front of an audience and local TV stations with the first gimmick personalities being introduced people slowly figured out that something is up and it's not 100% real. That was when this article was written and people really did not care
I guess that just proves that ethnics have lower iq than us. Blacks stay losing.
frenchabortion. I wrote that for anyone just looking through the comment section not for the guy himself. But even so it wouldn’t be the first time no one cared what I had to say so yeah I’ll live and be just fine lol
dbgrfdg Yeah at first it was 100% real and listening to what people had to go through training wise is scary since they had to be strong/skilled enough to take on all challengers and they better not lose and make the circus look bad or have to pay the money they advertised but almost assuredly didn’t have lol. They say amateur wrestlers decided to make a professional league so they could all get paid after they got older and couldn’t really compete with the stricter rules and younger guys of the Amateurs. But they would run into a couple problems the matches would take forever to end there are some on record lasting 5+ hours with intermissions and it was driving away business cause you can’t take bets on something you don’t want to stay and watch lol. Also the top guys would get hurt and have to be out a year or more recovering which would then hurt everyone’s bottom dollar. And a minor problem was you can’t control the outcomes which would sometimes leave the wrestler and promoter looking dumb when someone in the crowd did out wrestle them (a plant from another promoter usually). So a lot of the top guys of the time got together and started laying out fun short exciting matches where they controlled the outcome, no one got hurt and their marks stayed watched and betted on the matches win-win for everyone. But reporters who traveled around to the different matches reporting on them started to get wise to them and started reporting it was phoney. But poor people and immigrants didn’t read the papers so the sport kinda just went in that direction. The whole “people didn’t know what a fight looked liked” is true about some but the clever thing about wrestling is it’s rules (that are no longer really used unless needed in a modern match lol) but you could use a closed fist for example because if you’ve been in a fight a closed fist only takes 2-3 good punches to take you out but if you HAVE to use a open palm well maybe that has a different effect. There are a punch of little clever Nuances in the rules system to explain why it didn’t look like a fight you would see on the streets for people who had seen real fights. Even this is still very simplified history. Jim Cornette has a podcast that goes way deeper then I ever could on this subject if anyone reads this novel and wants to learn more.
Original catch wrestlers were legitimate CRIPPLERS. They could blow out an opponents knee, break vertebrae, and dislocate elbows in seconds. 'Worked' wrestling came about because they needed to be able to have competitive but SAFER matches with each other with no one going to the hospital afterwards. Wrestling became a 'work' out of necessity not design.
see the thing is, this never really changed. Even today, WWE's roster sports a healthy amount of former amateur wrestlers. And I'm not just talking about Div I cream of the crop like Brock Lesnar or Olympians like Kurt Angle or Chad Gable. You've even got some upper midcard talent like Dolph Ziggler (AKA former Kent State champion Nick Nemeth). Hell, all three of the New Day are former high school wrestlers.
I wouldn't even push my luck against the guys who didn't have an amateur wrestling background, as some of them can manhandle anyone who doesn't have proper combat training. Go look up the video of Triple H taking down a rabid fan who jumped the fence and attacked Stone Cold Steve Austin.
No, this argument doesn't work. Because amateur freestyle wrestling usually doesn't result in severe injuries. The referees have actual authority in actual sports; and it's one of their principal jobs to enforce rules to prevent the serious injury of the athletes. When two genuine competitive athletes come together, the conclusion of the match is not foreordained -- it's not "fixed" (and, if it is fixed, it is no longer "sport").
'Worked' wrestling, as you put it, is simply not wrestling. If it's choreographed and not genuinely competitive, then it is staged entertainment -- not sport or real athleticism.
Circus clowning, stunt performing, vaudeville performing (etc.) isn't sport. No matter the "athleticism" required, they are entertaining performers rather than genuine athletes.
Professionalism -- the pursuit of high stakes prizes -- puts pressure on any sport. It's easy for a particular sport to degenerate into choreographed physical theater and match-fixing. It takes effort on the part of baseball commissioners and the heads of boxing commissions to keep the professional leagues of their sporting disciplines from taking the road that professional catch wrestling did around the 1920s. Essentially the carnival organizers took over the organization of "professional wrestling", and knew what to do with it to keep the money rolling in.
It's not deserving of the name "wrestling" or "sport" now.
@MrJm323 it is and a thousand word comment isn't gonna change that. The world sees it as wrestling and a sport. Nothing you can do to change it except bitch and moan online:) also they've banned many of the moves that were too risky and crippled many wrestlers. But okay !!
@@MrJm323bro did a wrestler bad touch you or something...
@@MrJm323 not real athleticism?!?
Wrestling is pre-determined but highly skillfull and kind of an art!
Damn.
You just made a resume of the whole WWE history in 18 minutes.
Great Work
He has no idea what he talking about tho😅
Professional wrestling is so underrated as a form of entertainment.
It’s basically if stuntmen and stuntwomen are the live actors with one take, telling stories and entertaining people worldwide.
*overrated. It's just... dumb.
Wrestling didn't really exist in Italy. But then in the early 2000s MTV Italia started broadcasting the WWE and everyone lost their freaking MINDS. It was the first time we were exposed to American "culture" (other than mainstream Hollywood movies). They tried following that up with stuff like Monster Trucks but it never really worked as well as the WWE did.
Every single boy in my school was OBSESSED with American wrestlers, the amount of money parents spent on buying merch for their kids was insane. Pencil cases, backpacks, notebooks, you name it. John Cena, Eddie Guerrero, The Undertaker and Hulk Hogan were the most famous. My cousin Tommaso tried several times doing Eddie Guerrero's "frog slam" move on my 4 year old sister. It did not end well...
The attitude era was where it’s at. Such an iconic time
Good theater often makes more than prestigious , legitimate sports. We just want entertainment.
WWEs struggle is, that they cater to these big investors who love to see FOX and Saudi deals and they hate controversy, especially in this era. (I mean Saudi itself is a huge controversy, but 350mill is 350mil, so what you gonna do)
They are all about branding and bloating their numbers by any means. But the storylines themselves are only an afterthought.
For example, the UA-cam numbers come mostly from India, The watchtime on Peacock comes from fewer people but doesn't go down much, because they make their PPVs longer and for example WrestleMania is now 2 days instead of one.
They were lucky that Fox and other TV stations were competing for live sports/programming, especially in the pandemic era. That is also the reason that RAW is 3 hours long. In return though, the blandness, bad stories, long exhausting monotone shows, all this is driving away fans and many wrestling fans like me have predicted a long time ago that it is all comes crumbling down eventually when too many viewers turn off, but they keep going for a surprising long time at this point. And with Roman Reigns gaining popularity, the product getting slightly better since Vince is no longer in control, AEW being somewhat of a competetion forcing WWE to be more creative, stuff could actually become more popular now.
Talking about AEW, there seems to be a need for more Wrestling of TV, since they are doing fine as well and Japanese promotions also rising in popularity here in the US. 5 years ago we only had WWE
That was a fun little video essay. It should be mentioned about the "Shoot Wrestling Days", that a few other reasons why it ended were that it wasn´t exactly audience friendly, since matches were either very short or very long and very boring, since it would usually involve little actual action, once one of them got the other into a submission hold. Not to mention that it became harder and harder to find new wrestlers, since nearly all of them came in with almost no wrestling experience and many of them came out of their first matches with career ending injuries, matches that they had earned practically nothing for participating in.
It also would have seemed fair, if Roddy Piper had been mentioned along with Hulk Hogan, since not only wouldn´t Hogan have become as big as he did without Roddy. It was also Roddy, who was the first wrestling star who became known for being the star of a mainstream movie in "They Live", which brought a lot of new attention to the then WWF as well in the 80´s, whereas Hogan (with the exception of his small part in "Rocky III" and starring in the WWF´s own disaster of a movie "No Holds Barred") didn´t get into that part of it until the 90´s.
You’ve got it wrong with the origin of catch wresting and how the match went on to be fixed. At first there was some legit catch wrestling fights. But the thing is that often the opponent would end up seriously hurt or maimed ( even today, a lot of catch wrestling holds are forbidden in grappling matches because the risk of injury is too big). And that wasn’t good for business. No fights, no money. So they decided to go with a fixed fight format so they could fight several times a week and make bank.
@MrJm323
Who laughed at the sport? yeah that are definitely detractors but wrestling was huge in the 80s 90s and early 2000s
Its pro wrestling not wwe.
WWE didn't invent wrestling.
I dont watch WWE to see a fight
I watch it because its only sport where someone can get trown through the table
Haven’t checked too much into there popularity stats but I’ve seen recently they had a record ticket sales for one of there upcoming PPV (or PLE). It will be interesting to see how the company does popularity wise and financially under the booking of Triple H
Ratings-wise, it's never been worse. I think last week's Raw recorded the lowest rated third hour ever since the third hour was introduced.
@@pkj2148 To be fair, they're competing with Monday Night Football.
@@MochoStudiosYT Is Monday Night Football something new? Raw was doing 3 million on a regular in 2017. Today they do half of that.
@@pkj2148 That's mainly due to late 2017-2022 the product was incredibly shitty. Piss poor booking, toilet humor, cringy promos, lazy storytelling, bad character development, and horrendous backstage morale all played a part in bad wrestling programming, and thus ratings plummeting. But even though the product is decent now, those viewers are most likely not going to be coming back due the damage done by Vince's horrible booking, management, and horrible understanding of what the fans actually wanted. And not to mention, a better product, won't bring old fans back.
I remember in 2019 that wwe had 45 million subscribers. And not only that, im starting to hear murmuring in school hallways and stores about it. It is slowly starting to get more popular with Triple H taking over, Logan Paul joining, and interesting storylines now taking place
Without Vince , this video wouldn't even exist .
Shout out to Vince McMahon for making our childhoods awesome
Wrestling isn't about the Wrestling itself. It's about all the stories and characters _leading up to_ the Wrestling. Imagine if in the avengers movie iron man put on a speedo and boots instead of a metal suit. That's basically what professional Wrestling is.
One of the few dad bonding memories I have is sitting on the sofa and watching WWE back in the golden days. Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, the lot. I even got to meet Booker T at a signing in Woolworths. HOW 00's IS THAT
Much of our pop culture has been influenced by pro-wrestling, and pro-wrestling is freaking awesome. If you're not a fan, or simply haven't gotten around to it, search up some ways that you can get into it, you'll be glad you did.
I would argue that's not true anymore. Wrestling hasn't been that mainstream since the early 2000s. Everyone knew who Stone Cold, The Rock, and Hulk Hogan were in the 1980s and 1990s, but there are a lot of people who had/have no clue who the hell John Cena and Roman Reigns are. They're aware the WWE exists but that's about it.
A lot of people under a certain age only know Dwayne Johnson as Dwayne Johnson - for his Hollywood career - not his wrestling career as The Rock.
Brock Lesnar is known more for his UFC run than his original WWE run too. That's why his MMA background was incorporated heavily into his WWE gimmick when he returned to the company.
And WWE isn’t a sport, it’s a company
UFC isn't a sport, it's a company
@@KimvyKinsley what’s your point? You were talking about WWE here, not UFC
@@avuncularynx I mean it is a company, right? They do sports but they aren't the sport. Just like how WWE is a company but they do Professional Wrestling.
@@KimvyKinsleyhe got pressed fr lol
Just want to clarify one thing... You said Vince & co. had the rare ability to spot future megastar crossover talent like Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock, John Cena, Brock Lesnar, Dave Bautista, etc.
Not true. No one who's ever succeeded at the highest levels of the WWE did so because they were overlooked gems only Vince could see.
Those guys became household global icons because the system Vince operates is so complex and grueling that the people who rise to the top can go on to have success in other ventures such as Hollywood, or in Brock Lesnar's case, legitimate pro sports like the NFL & UFC.
Vince isn't finding the diamonds in the rough. He's gathering the coal to feed his pressure cooker which will eventually create the diamonds. You got to have it ALL in that industry. You got to have the look; the personality; networking and politicking skills; be inexhaustible; and ambitious.
Don't overlook the politicking abilities either. We've actually seen Jesse Ventura and Kane become elected public office holders after retiring from WWE also. It isn't just movie stars and prize fighters. If you can rise to the top of the classical WWE machine,* you can make it in just about anything. Hell, Chris Jericho went on to become a rock star, author, and podcaster for Chrissakes!
*I say "classical WWE machine" because they've gone away from it this past decade after Vince got tired of his biggest stars like The Rock, John Cena, Dave Bautista, and Brock Lesnar walking away to other industries for more rewards than he can provide. Now, WWE kneecaps everyone with stop-start pushes, redundant storylines, surprise roll-ups instead of finishing moves, and being fed to Roman Reigns to stop everyone's momentum dead in it's tracks
i agree that the examples you have given are very true, i will add that working and traveling as much as they were would also play a factor. The pressure of constantly being that busy must be massive and something that only a handful of people ever really experience. To keep that up for 10/30 years would make just about any job or career after that feel easy or at least easier in comparison.
If you watch interviews of the the undertaker, stone cold or any superstar, they were very obviously extremely passionate and proud to do what they did and if you can carry that same passion and pride over to something else there is a huge chance of success.
Well said. Vince Mcmahon is definitely a role model we can all learn from.
WWE isnt a 'sport', its a company... there are hundreds of different wrestling promotions out there, just turns out WWE is the most popular and rightly so given its history.
Calling the sport missunderstood without talking about how is missunderstood is just crazy
Casual mistake..
but WWE isn’t a sport, It’s a promotion/brand. There’s many of them like WWE, AEW, ROH, NJPW, etc. The sport you’re referring to is pro wrestling lmao
Plus the only reason idiots laugh or take it as a joke and see it as pointless is because they don’t even understand the entire point of it. It’s not just fake fighting, the entire purpose is for promos being cut on the mic between wrestlers/factions, storylines being created n followed, and the emotions behind everything with it. That’s what gives it the entertainment aspect aside the crazy stunts and flips that cruiserweights pull off.
Anyone that doesn't get a kick out of wrestling promos and the eccentricity of it all isn't someone I want to know
Would love to see you talk about quad roller skating! It's grown alot over the past two years
WWE is the company, pro wrestling is the sport. It's kinda like saying that UFC is the same as MMA. They are the biggest promoters in their respected sports but not the sport itself.
But still a good video! You broke it down well 😁
WWE is staged though. Real "pro wrestling" isn't. So WWE fits.
@@ChiTownGuerrilla huh? All pro wrestling is staged/scripted/pre-determined/(put synonym here)
@@ChiTownGuerrilla real shoot wrestling is "amateur wrestling", pro wrestling and all of it are staged with over-the-top moves
@@Defaajaasli_watch a new jack match and coke back 2 this
@@Ihateyoudeuxe he is an exception, he is the definition of Shoot Wrestling. He will end someone if he wants
An idea for a video would be Dominik Sky, he did a 7m backflip and in my opinion he was the first person who combined freerunning with calisthenics. Also his vidoes are insane to watch so it would be worth it.
Its closer to live theatre than a sport. Its acting and storylines in between the matches that are combination of stunt work, storytelling, psychology and crowd work.
One thing that made me dismiss calling it fake? Is seeing how seriously they take their job. They train and rehearse, and live in the gym.....
A totally cliche example...but watch Foley/Mankind and Undertaker Hell in the Cell. To me its more legitmate than so called "pro-sports". WWE at least admits its "fake", BUT their athletes are as legitmate as any other league's players
i am a young Wrestler in germany, I've been training for a year now and im exited to have a first match soon.
Best of luck to you, and your wrestling journey. 🙏
Best of luck to you!
Owen Hart Rest in Peace
One tiny correction…the media exposure of wrestling as fake in 30s actually DID make a pretty significant impact on its audience. English speaking readers of the New York Times, etc. got hip to it, perhaps fancied themselves too sophisticated to be duped and started showing up less. You know who *didn’t* read the New York Times? Italian and Spanish speakers…so wrestling adapted with the rise of the ethnic heroes like Bruno Sammartino, etc.
WWE is not a sport (said Vince to avoid any commission)
It's sports entertainment, it features sports and athletics but in the end, it's scripted and has larger-than-life stories and characters
Regarding the end of this video, right now wwe is in really great shape. Spearheaded by hhh, it’s starting to cater more to the die hard then casual. Having amazing ple’s and focusing more on in ring work. And with the added competition of aew, it’s a damn good time to be a wrestling fan.
I don’t necessarily know if catering to the hardcore fans is the best way to grow the fan base. They are pretty much your core audience that is going to watch no matter what. It’s not really going to draw in the casual fans like the storylines and characters in the Attitude Era did.
Finally been waiting for you to do professional wrestling awesome love your channel been a long time sub
I remember how my 5-8 grade class mates would constantly talk about this and about the athletes and moves.
Same, people would actually wear merchandise and debate who was going to win. I doubt that happens much anymore.
@@ihatemyselflol5558 Not really, maybe if you have a class mate that actually likes wrestling but aside from that, wrestling isn't as talked about as it was before.
@@ihatemyselflol5558 right now it's more like
"Who deserves to win the World Championship from Roman?" or "Who should get a big push?"
Power comps are absolutely irrelevant ever since people realize wrestling is scripted, I still see debates on who is better against who and damn is it corny.
@@ihatemyselflol5558
Yeah these days it's just "They should make Cody win from roman"
@@AloneInThePark hahaha so glad they did that
Wait
Dear haters; pro wrestling is predetermined or scripted, NOT fake, this is an objective fact .
My best friend is Mideon and a few other names from the additude area. The WWE really fucked him up. Made good money, but it doesn't last and it permanently kills your body.
I remember Mideon. They made him run around on television nearly naked
People don't realize, not only are the fans in on it, we're actually used by some of the better wrestlers to make it more exciting. Wrestlers will whip the crowd to a rabid frenzy to get the environment just right for people in attendance or at home. D-Generation X would talk directly to the crowd for instance. Cheap heat is when a wrestler will come out in sports team rival's jersey to anger the audience. It's interactive entertainment.
And if you think crowds are ridiculous now, some wrestlers had to carry target pistols so on their way to their car they could fire off blanks that sounded like real bullets because they'd get attacked. Andre the Giant was harassed by drunks so bad he chased them out of the bar and flipped their car. Crowds are tame these days.
Why does it feel like there are entire sections of the video edited out? Are there full, complete videos that you have to pay a subscription to see?
Good video but a little misunderstanding of different events. One noteable one is Vince wasn't just facing legal trouble in the early 90's he was facing FEDERAL charges. That's why the WWE went super kid friendly and nearly killed their company. This video should also have an update on Vince power moving his way back into control so he could sell it as a big fuck you to everyone who forced him out.
I don't watch wrestling anymore but i used to watch it when i was younger and i loved it.. i don't understand how people can say it is fake.. if you watch a movie you don't say this movie is fake.. wrestling is entertaiment.. a show they put on for their audience.. almost everybody has watched wrestling at some point.. I don't watch wrestling anymore but I still think it's great.. it's exciting and it brings people from all over the world together.. it's great man
Great content only found you recently
This needs another chapter
14:31 who tf is he fighting?!?
he must be shadowboxing or something idk
John Cena if your serious
Lmfaooo I caught on
I couldn't see him
Just want to say, thanks for having legit soonsors.
Lots of other big youtubers shill scammy products.
Keep it real :)
Vince McMahon and Stone Cold Steve Austin had somewhat of a fight last April at Wrestle Mania 38 😂😂 Just don't search for his stunner on Vince it was a bit dodge 😂😂
They also fought at St valentines day massacre
People who are upset or make fun of other people for watching Pro Wrestling should really stop watching movies, especially considering they are a lot more fake than pro wrestling.
They themselves don't even realize why they watch and enjoy movies and series so much. The story is more important than whether it's real or not because the customer ultimately cares about whether they're entertained by what they see as opposed to how real it is.
Also you've gotta be stupid if you think a human being could have a 20+ year career in pro wrestling after getting smacked in the head with steel chairs, closelined and thrown into burning tables. When it's real or a wrestler isn't careful to protect their opponent, the opponent gets injured. Even a simple powerbomb has left numerous former wrestlers paralyzed due to it being delivered as if they really meant to hurt their opponent.
It's also the same reason people are drawn to Super heroes. WWE, AEW and the like just bring you the hero, villain story in a live setting which is a lot harder to do than recording multiple takes and editing it to make it look real and presented on a screen.
I never considered wrestling to be really fake just all scripted
Skip cm punk era was a mistake, that was the beginning of a new era which has been cut through the roots by Triple H's ego.
We know its predetermined but So is the latest Action Movie does that make it less entertaining knowing the movies aren't true events?
Careful Jimmy, I think you might have just broken kayfabe...
When will your next Parkour video come out
A year later and it's been the best it's ever been.
I used to watch this religiously as a kid. how times have changed
I don't know man, God hasn't really showed up much but when Vince called he teamed with Shawn Michael's no problem
Never forget God jobbed for Vince
@@NotSoRealEllis20🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wrestling is for entertainment purposes only. These athletes should not be tested for steroids... they're not really competing for anything.
So here it was we had what is known as a wrestling god on our hands which meant he only fought giants, monsters, and villains all the time and he was amazing 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩!!!!!!
And so it was considered that the rest of the regular wrestlers wrestled for the intercontinental title and it worked great 👍👍
I loved growing up in the 80's and 90's and the best time in wrestling ever
This video should be called "How the WWF came to be?"
The rules used to be set out so the most fake things didn't happen often, i.e. punches where banned so didn't get a lot of fake punchs, it was one or two at a time.
Your documentaries about sports are really interesting. Could you possibly make one about flowboarding? It’s relatively similar to the other type of sports you covered
When people say oh it’s fake they’re not getting hurt they are they just know what to do and how to do it
Vince truly became a villain to the fans after the Montreal Screwjob.
Oh WWE, Soap Opera for men and boys, that made our childhood awesome. Thanks for the awesome childhood Mr MacMahon 👊😎
I know it's scripted but I still watch it and it's not just wwe
For me I enjoyed wrestling when there were small organizations spread around the country. Especially Mid-South Wrestling with Jerry the King Lawler, Mr X, The Junkyard Dog and Jimmy Heart the mouth of the south. My Dad and I traveled around a lot and we would checkout the local wrestling scene. Everything the same everywhere you go now.
I hate when people call it fake but not looking at the part of they suffer from real injuries just like any other athlete. TBH I don’t know any other sport where you’re sometimes intentionally trying to hurt yourself
I love your content and do what you want with your channel but I kinda miss the parkour vids
Dont over look that with HHH taking control WWE Is back to making itself more interesting and better story lines
Sports are competitions.
Childhood right here
As a big fan of wrestling back than the Addittude era started naturally even before it started you could see how it was changing in early 96
There are still other wrestling companies around
what a great channel :)
Who is stronger than the WWE? The World Wildlife Fund. They made them change their name from back when they used to be the WWF.
They just wanted them to change the WWF logo, the name would have still be legal, but Vince saw this as an opportunity, since he saw the sport always as "sports entertainment" and not Wrestling
Hell, they got permission From The World Wildlife Fund to reuse the Name WWF in their old content back in 2014 😶
You’ve just called WWE a sport. WWE is a company, wrestling is the sport.
At 17:50 you said that in 2021 was the first time you heard of WWE yet earlier you mentioned playing with action figures of the Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Years ago my friend got The Undertaker with Hog Bike along with a detachable cloak. Months go by and he had no idea I stole his set with a set of HW cars.
Do I recall coming back playing with every action WWE figure at his place; gaming SmackDown vs. RAW on PS3.
The dude didn't care as long I was his buddy.
Maybe he didn’t know it transitioned from WWF to WWE
i watched wrestling growing up thinking it was real then becoming about 11/12 and finding out it was scripted, stopped watching but picked it back up this past year with a new undertanding and mindset about it
You ending the video on how wwe has become boring would have made sense in 2012… but the last 3 years to date have been as good as ever
7:30
>hulkmania
Is Jimmy slowly morphing into Zelenskiy? 🤔🤣 Great video as always, though. 😊
Just called it scripted not fake because the stunts they pulled are real and dangerous
Its stageed ? yes. But you have to properly trained. I hate hearin ppl say its fake. Dont try to diminish something we love to watch that's manipulation. Been watching wwe since 08. Long live Eddie Guerrero
Haters stay broke
What about all the kids and the abuse that was also discussed on that Donahue episode. Allegedly, they would go from town to town and take young fans to go build the ring and meet the stars. Kinda of glossed over that my good man.
Free Skates video nxt? (JMK Skates)
David had a ballistic weap9n -- Goliath only had a sword!
Idk how people don’t realize it’s called sports entertainment, it literally is exposed and they still call it fake, we knows it’s scripted that’s the point LOL it’s literally a product that’s taking place with actors that craft their moves and what not
Very few people understood that if it was "real," it would not have been as entertaining. I remember when Ultimate Fighting first arrived on the scene, and the first fight ended in less than 2 minutes with a kick to the face. When the fights lasted longer, they became boring grappling matches on the floor, because that is how real fighting with mixed martial arts and very few holds barred ends up.
No matter what you think of vince the man was a genius