Why Ultra Wide Lenses Are Lame Now

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  • Опубліковано 3 кві 2024
  • Thinking of getting an ultrawide lens for your youtube show? Think again. Most youtubers go with the 16-35mm f2.8 or 15-35mm f4 type lenses for full frame. Rethink that decision.
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  • @cameraconspiracies
    @cameraconspiracies  3 місяці тому +9

    If you buy today's gear through my affiliate links, Ratboy will show you around his cave.
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    • @Anon-zl4ne
      @Anon-zl4ne 3 місяці тому

      You are into the 85mm f/1.2 now? Careful, before long you will be taking us to a lake and hiding it.

    • @fellowcitizen
      @fellowcitizen 3 місяці тому

      Please see Lucy Liu's ferret impression (to John Cleese) in 'Charlie's Angels II: Full Throttle'

  • @jessejayphotography
    @jessejayphotography 3 місяці тому +67

    Wide angle is more intimate because I can see all the dysfunction in your apartment and I feel like I’m there.

  • @MartialBoniou
    @MartialBoniou 3 місяці тому +31

    I know nothing about lenses but now I want to pet an ultra wild raccoon. Thanks!

  • @lavapix
    @lavapix 3 місяці тому +12

    I soldered my ultrawide lens to my camera so I'd never take it off.

  • @LTPottenger
    @LTPottenger 3 місяці тому +16

    The thing to do is light the room perfectly one time, then use a greenscreen to show the room perfectly lit and clean. Then you don't have to worry about it any more.

    • @faddad101
      @faddad101 3 місяці тому

      But what about the face

    • @LTPottenger
      @LTPottenger 3 місяці тому

      @@faddad101Overhead lighting is easy and effective.

  • @ayhancapan
    @ayhancapan 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't believe all these years I hadn't subscribed to your channel. UA-cam recommended may be whole your videos. And I've watched hundreds of them. Just now I realized that I hadn't subscribed, so I just have subscribed, means wide angle worked. I felt closer :P

  • @JauneMacReady
    @JauneMacReady 3 місяці тому +7

    Outstanding! I had no idea before, and even less now. Thank you for what you do. ❤

  • @gregmonforton4103
    @gregmonforton4103 3 місяці тому +5

    There's a quality about 85mm headshot that bugs me to the same degree as ultra-wide does. 35mm or 50mm is where I don't get distracted by the distortion.

  • @derrenleepoole
    @derrenleepoole 3 місяці тому +4

    That racoon story had me choking on my Doritos and had me in mind of Primus’s Wynona’s Big Brown Beaver :)

  • @daveinportland
    @daveinportland 3 місяці тому +7

    (In your best Maximus impersonation) “Are you not entertained?!?”

  • @tommilano5431
    @tommilano5431 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey Kasey, great video! I’ve been using a wired lavalier mic with my phone for vlogs, and it’s super convenient! You’re the only person I’ve seen that vlogs with a wired mic. So simple, lightweight, no batteries. Thank you!

  • @SystemParanoia
    @SystemParanoia 3 місяці тому +2

    As the president of the 600mm vlogging club. I welcome your embrace of longer focal lengths 😅

  • @XL1813
    @XL1813 3 місяці тому +3

    Appreciate the reappearance of rat-boy.

  • @olafweyer859
    @olafweyer859 3 місяці тому +1

    I moved the dial on my EVF diopter and the wide angle lens is the only way I can be certain at least SOMETHING is in focus. I could try moving the dial again, but it is Thursday.

  • @djmatt1
    @djmatt1 3 місяці тому

    I love the 85mm look, it's my personal fav as a taking lens for a 2x anamorphic setup, as much as a pita it is I find it's still worth the trouble, depending what you're filming of course.

  • @_Thumbnail_
    @_Thumbnail_ 3 місяці тому +30

    Saw your bereavement video on the other channel. Best wishes to you and your small family.

  • @trym2121
    @trym2121 3 місяці тому +3

    Now you're joining your idol preferences. Full toneh

  • @Daryl3737
    @Daryl3737 3 місяці тому +8

    Best line of the video…”How do you source it?” I’m still laughing!

  • @nicedward7544
    @nicedward7544 3 місяці тому +2

    I love my 15 macro but I'm surprised it's not scratched to hell. It can focus down to stuff touching the front element

  • @SonoranAstro
    @SonoranAstro 3 місяці тому +1

    for your next q&a can you discuss your color grading work flow

  • @charliejg
    @charliejg 3 місяці тому

    I'm thinking you could make a box office thriller starring Ratboy. LOL! I get it, mixing it up keeps things fresh. After 10 years you need to find things that keep it interesting and fun. Have a rockin' day!!

  • @dredfxcustompaint
    @dredfxcustompaint 3 місяці тому +1

    😅 always a giggle but great info thanks for sharing 👍

  • @yamaha4015
    @yamaha4015 3 місяці тому +21

    Whatever makes u happy, 50 mm, don’t forget your meds. Have a nice day

  • @MacBookBro1
    @MacBookBro1 3 місяці тому +1

    I started with the 85mm street photography. Then Jason Vong puts out a video about it. It was my secret weapon while everyone else is walking around with the crappy wide angle lens. 😂

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 3 місяці тому +1

    There's a reason why film SLRs usually sold with a 50mm lens and why a digital camera kit lens nearly always includes 50mm.

  • @mcknackus4721
    @mcknackus4721 3 місяці тому +1

    Wide angle is perfect for depicting otherworldly or uncomfortable scenes, or like, Jim Varney trying to renovate your home. RIP you legend.

  • @MakePictures
    @MakePictures 3 місяці тому

    lol i don’t know why we all sought after wide angles in photography and filmmaking like 20 years ago we bought every wide angle imaginable, just versatility maybe. but you’re right, now we’re like who cares if they can’t see your ceiling fan. we watched one terrence malik film and we think we need that versatility but turns out kurosawa had the right idea

  • @rafaelxenes2034
    @rafaelxenes2034 3 місяці тому

    Goofy lenses for goofy people. Either with a wide, normal, or telephoto lens, you always manage to make very valid, educational content in a goofy, entertaining manner. That's one of your gifts, our friend. Just keep bringing us this awesome funny show in whatever focal length you see fit. You're still our favorite online camera guy. 😂

  • @seanmangan2769
    @seanmangan2769 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for you opinion. 👌 I will continue to use my ultra-wides.

  • @IrgendeinerHalt
    @IrgendeinerHalt 3 місяці тому +1

    Although I don't have a wide angle lens, I think it would help me stay in the frame as I can't sit still.

  • @jackdaw9829
    @jackdaw9829 3 місяці тому +1

    Came here to learn about lenses. Nearly wet myself.

  • @ElectroMedia-cs9ek
    @ElectroMedia-cs9ek 3 місяці тому +2

    Is the raccoon urine of good quality? I was thinking of using it on my macro lens.

  • @koreanwonders
    @koreanwonders 3 місяці тому

    I shoot parties in confined places so wide is the most practical.
    I used to use a 17-35 and took 95% of my pictures at 17mm but the distortion required tweaking in post. Then got a 20mm prime and it’s working just fine for me (and way less ratty) plus it’s way lighter than the zoom.

  • @DirectingSven
    @DirectingSven 3 місяці тому

    I stand by my sigma 1.4 16mm. When I kiss the glass to the fish tank I capture epic aquarium shots with no need for fiddly cdl crap

  • @LordJapos
    @LordJapos 3 місяці тому +1

    we need more ratboy nose-vlogs

  • @TyProvosty
    @TyProvosty 3 місяці тому

    Great for tight space architectural photography and videography.... Even with profound parallax distortion.

  • @dreamsandrealms4581
    @dreamsandrealms4581 3 місяці тому

    Looks good, whats the problem with this wide lens?

  • @gabequezada2066
    @gabequezada2066 3 місяці тому +1

    Rat boy now needs to be in meetings...

  • @chrisshor3195
    @chrisshor3195 3 місяці тому +1

    Nah do more vids on the 10mm close up that shit’s hilarious

  • @ratgirl13
    @ratgirl13 3 місяці тому +6

    Listen Kasey, stop giving ratboy a hard time, he’s just trying to live his best life. Your depiction of ratboy is hilarious, and I hope to see him more in upcoming videos. ❤

  • @nicksavage4763
    @nicksavage4763 3 місяці тому +15

    WIDE ANGLE IS
    GREAT FOR ACTUAL.
    DRAMATIC PRESENTATION LIKE
    ACTORS WITH EACH OTHER AT A TABLE ETC. They HAVE a
    Purpose. NOT FOR
    RAT BOY BLOG.

    • @audioupgrades
      @audioupgrades 3 місяці тому +2

      Wide angles are used in film-making. Stanley Kubrick was quite keen on them. My response would be that wide angles are overused and misused so try to use a normal lens first. If you absolutely can't, then whip out the wide angle.

  • @gabsriel
    @gabsriel 3 місяці тому

    I bought plenty of ultra wides and never settled, until a fixed 20mm f1.8.

  • @ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras
    @ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras 3 місяці тому +1

    Now this is quality content!

  • @PJ-om2wq
    @PJ-om2wq 3 місяці тому

    Could I vlog with my 24mm AF-D screw focus lens on the D780 that I'm going to buy?

  • @_tographer
    @_tographer 3 місяці тому +1

    Of all things for content creators, autofocus + wide angle was kind of the most unnecessary thing. If I’m that close to the camera, I don’t really need autofocus because I can actually reach the lens. Now throw on that 85mm and good autofocus is an absolute necessity unless your arms are 20ft long. Surprised with the rise of incredible autofocus, the wide angle look has still maintained its UA-cam prominence. We need more 300mm vlogs.

  • @krhump
    @krhump 3 місяці тому +3

    Hello from Australia

  • @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures
    @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures 3 місяці тому

    I started thinking I loved long lenses because of the 3D pop, realized longer felt more fancy and cinematic, thought that too long felt stuffy and cliché, and now I use 35mm-75mm the most, between S35 and full frame

  • @NeonShores
    @NeonShores 3 місяці тому

    I agree, most times i kinda hate wide angle lenses.
    I know everyone says you need them for landscapes but I find myself gravitating to longer focal lengths even in landscapes too. I just really don't like the look of distorted overly stretched foregrounds.
    Architecture, real estate and interior design are where wide angles shine and even then detail shots are still more interesting.

  • @baconcrusader8382
    @baconcrusader8382 3 місяці тому +7

    Ratboy for PM!

  • @audioupgrades
    @audioupgrades 3 місяці тому +3

    People misuse wideangle lenses to cheat on the photographic process. As the wide angle lens gets almost everything in the frame, there is no need to compose the shot or make any decisions on framing. The one use case I would support is vlogging because anything else is just unworkable.

    • @annor5725
      @annor5725 3 місяці тому +1

      I think because there is more in a wide angle shot it‘s even harder to compose.

    • @audioupgrades
      @audioupgrades 3 місяці тому

      @@annor5725 Nope. Composing is deciding what should be in the frame and what should be outside. With a wide angle lens, everything is in the frame so there is no choice, no decision and no photography.

    • @saifaldin_
      @saifaldin_ 3 місяці тому

      @@audioupgradesExactly why good wide angle compositions are few and far between..
      It’s so easy to fall into mediocrity with wide angle, causing those who are experienced and value their craft to simply not take the shot instead.
      Lenses with longer focal lengths are easier to work with, precisely because one has more leeway in terms of composition. And since more people use them, they too tend to easily fall into mediocrity.

  • @ButchNews
    @ButchNews 3 місяці тому

    I have an ultra wide adapter on my 16mm lens and it's the very best lens I have. The most creative lens I own. Background? Look around for what's called COMPOSITION. LEARN ABOUT COMPOSITION... AND LIGHTING. WIDE ANGLE REQUIRES IMAGINATION AND DON'T GET TOO CLOSE TO A FACE.

  • @kennygo8300
    @kennygo8300 3 місяці тому

    Dang... I just bought a 28mm 1.8 G for my old Nikon DSLR cameras today. I don't know why I wanted to shoot a wide focal length on my morning photo walks. I should have ask you first.

  • @otisjordan5613
    @otisjordan5613 3 місяці тому +1

    Just returned my Fuji xf23. I just didn't like the 35mm field of view at all. 50mm fov is my minimum, 85 the sweetspot, with one excpetion; fisheye lenses. (This is for photography, I don't do video)

  • @knowyourjoe8826
    @knowyourjoe8826 3 місяці тому +1

    5 min and 34 seconds into this and I am crying too.... from laughing so hard....LOL. Thanks!

  • @JayWall
    @JayWall 3 місяці тому

    I put a 50mm on my 90D to try. You can see every hair, freckles... You get the nice background blur "Tony" but too much detail for me.

  • @MstrRo1
    @MstrRo1 3 місяці тому +1

    "Rat Boy" is a star in the making!

  • @heyselcuk
    @heyselcuk 3 місяці тому

    make the next video outside with only 600 mm f6.3 and lav mic

  • @ishaanmalhotra3008
    @ishaanmalhotra3008 3 місяці тому

    So do you forgive the Sony ZV1 for not being so wide? I remember that was your main gripe with that camera. I have it and I think the wide end is fine enough(even with active stab), really like that camera. I have never liked the super ultra wide look, I thought Sony nailed it on ZV1.

  • @sixlegged
    @sixlegged 3 місяці тому

    We need more rat faces on the interweb. Rat faces are the new cowbells.

  • @nitrocranium
    @nitrocranium 3 місяці тому

    Finally! Rat Boy is back! ❤

  • @KenCoCreates
    @KenCoCreates 3 місяці тому

    The only wide angle I would use is a action camera vlogging. Other than that 28mm maybe but for sure 32mm 60mm 112mm only

  • @mjklein
    @mjklein 3 місяці тому +1

    I cried too, but I only saw that clip. Please post a link to the entire movie and I'll get my box of tissues.

  • @tek_soup
    @tek_soup 3 місяці тому

    FX30 With a FE 50MM is my liking right now, and its a cheep Sony lens/kit lens. SEL50F18F/2

  • @spikethecat3
    @spikethecat3 3 місяці тому

    Glad this works for you but given the infinite variety of subjects and artiistic treatments of the, I seriously doubt if your remarks have universal application. My 10-16 WA is terrific inside cathedrals.

  • @Joe_VanCleave
    @Joe_VanCleave 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m waiting for Ratboy vs J. Swizzle!

  • @toddcamnyc
    @toddcamnyc 3 місяці тому

    Microphone sounds awesome. Don’t change

  • @y-o-u-b
    @y-o-u-b 3 місяці тому

    wide angel in super 8 film looks great

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras 3 місяці тому

    I have been wondering for years what was behind that door. Eureka its a closet!

  • @Bobsmithabc
    @Bobsmithabc 3 місяці тому

    I think close up wide angle is a look that makes people watch because it distorts reality.

  • @AdrianIII
    @AdrianIII 3 місяці тому

    Just in time for the new Laowa 10mm prime!!!

  • @PaulSwansonIdAu
    @PaulSwansonIdAu 3 місяці тому

    Who's gonna tell him we can't see his T-shirts on the 85mm?

  • @poorbadger
    @poorbadger 3 місяці тому +1

    Touch of Evil w Orson Welles
    Some of the greatest WA shots ever

  • @Integr8d
    @Integr8d 3 місяці тому +1

    i don’t go any wider than 35 on the FF… practically ever. Never liked the perspective, oddly except when getting close to dogs🤣

  • @DanielSymphonies
    @DanielSymphonies 3 місяці тому

    “who could relate to rat boy?” hahah

  • @jesseward3121
    @jesseward3121 3 місяці тому +1

    I would have bet my whole life on that door hitting the chair. I'm a dead man now and everyday is a gift.

  • @lephotographinc
    @lephotographinc 3 місяці тому

    Raccoon urine … oh how do your source it? LMAO

  • @fujiandeye
    @fujiandeye 3 місяці тому

    I am solo creator , and I am fan of wide angle lens . 🙏🙏

  • @MinoltaCamera
    @MinoltaCamera 3 місяці тому +3

    11:43 Kacey on crack

  • @prizepictures1
    @prizepictures1 3 місяці тому +1

    Wide angles can be ok sometimes but it’s easy to over-do it. I personally like 35mm also 40mm is charming. My sister has a crush on rat boy.

  • @imKeshav
    @imKeshav 3 місяці тому +4

    Literally watched your Sony 14 MM 1.8 GM review yesterday, which you've uploaded probably 2 years ago, and now we are here... people change, and that's okay

  • @pedrova8058
    @pedrova8058 Місяць тому

    3:16 "chivo" Lubezki leaves the chat...

  • @mr.foxwiz1653
    @mr.foxwiz1653 3 місяці тому

    I used to work for GM years ago and I could buy a GM car for employee price. I NEVER did. GM makes trash.

  • @bloodmoney88
    @bloodmoney88 3 місяці тому +23

    if you're buying a wide angle, buy a cheap one first, get over using it, realize you hate it then give it to an enemy.
    I bought a 16mm whatsitsname lens... it might be good for taking class of 2024 shots... the whole class... other than that.

  • @AprilClayton
    @AprilClayton 3 місяці тому

    The Sony 40 F2.8 G is a sweet focal length. Dignity in a compact size. It’s no Zeiss.

  • @duncanwallace7760
    @duncanwallace7760 3 місяці тому

    "They know you read".. lol. When I see a bookshelf with a sets of books (ie multiple all the same size and colour), then I know they don't read. Yours has one green set, which I suspect you have not read, but the rest look legit.

  • @noeleb8538
    @noeleb8538 3 місяці тому

    Only one person is brave enough to purposefully show off Ratboy. I think you need to make a movie about where Ratboy comes from.

  • @annor5725
    @annor5725 3 місяці тому

    Framing is not everything. Depending on what you shoot you can arrange things and the lighting in front of the camera.

  • @CliffR
    @CliffR 3 місяці тому

    Man what did you talk about? I was in awe of your shirt the entire time.

  • @HGQjazz
    @HGQjazz 3 місяці тому

    What if the answer was always - "Use 50mm unless you HAVE to use something else!"

  • @fredfred9758
    @fredfred9758 3 місяці тому

    Intro looks like S Cinetone used.

  • @Farang_Lifestyles
    @Farang_Lifestyles 3 місяці тому +1

    Racoon Urine goes on sale at the local 7/11... tonic to cure all ailments

  • @evanlughfahy9778
    @evanlughfahy9778 3 місяці тому

    40mm or equivalent is the One TRUE focal length!!
    You’re WELCOME!

  • @Uriel602
    @Uriel602 3 місяці тому

    You need the Olympus 8-25 and get everything

  • @flightographist
    @flightographist 3 місяці тому

    Racoon urine is last years thing, today, you really really need to know about the miracle of the urine from a opossum.

  •  3 місяці тому

    There is no magic, only changing preferences and priorities…

  • @keensoundguy6637
    @keensoundguy6637 3 місяці тому

    I had to "watch" this one with the monitor off. So, of course, I didn't believe Rat Boy was a real rat until the sniffing at the end.

  • @alexmirza5210
    @alexmirza5210 3 місяці тому

    Fashions change. Next could be rat pee and macro lens so you have to stay still to keep your mouth in focus (so people can lip read you).

  • @nremac
    @nremac 3 місяці тому

    I took 400something photos on my walk yesterday with my voigtlander 21mm. Sorry Kasey!

  • @dct124
    @dct124 3 місяці тому +18

    All focal lengths have a place. These are tools. You use them effectively.
    Wide angle is actually good for adding stuff to your scene in post such as overlays, links, etc. so you're not covering your face. News channels use a wide perspective for this very reason as well as having breathing room in the scene.
    Wide angle is good for humans if you're not all in their grill.

    • @eto2352
      @eto2352 3 місяці тому +2

      News channels don't use wide angle.

    • @dct124
      @dct124 3 місяці тому

      @@eto2352 Let me delete this other comment b/c I'm coming off as an ass hole.
      Can you get a wide angle shot regardless of the lens focal length?
      If you can answer that question, you'll understand what I was saying.

    • @eto2352
      @eto2352 3 місяці тому

      @@dct124 🤡 think about what you just wrote. I'll get my 300mm "wide angle" lens.

    • @dct124
      @dct124 3 місяці тому

      @@eto2352 dude just because you don't understand how distant and angle of view work, doesn't mean you gotta get uptight.

    • @dct124
      @dct124 3 місяці тому

      @@eto2352 Here's a nice beginners instructional video to understanding how a lens works.
      Also most news channels use a ln 18-35mm lens equivalent. 35mm being the narrowest focal length for wide angle.
      Wide angle vs Normal lens distance
      ua-cam.com/video/kpRqgPDdCVc/v-deo.htmlsi=T_Ub-PEbP5hKMWbL
      I'm not going to be an ass hole on this man's channel after the passing of his mom. Take the advice, and do with it what you please. Based on the dumb like like I got from the initial comment, either we're all incompetent and you're some superior being or, just maybe you misunderstood/misinterpreted what I said. Be on your Marry way to your next photography gig, job, or whatever you like doing.

  • @Mr09260
    @Mr09260 3 місяці тому

    My 20mm F1.8 S Nikon Lens is Essential for my Milky Way Photography.. Extra Wide Angle needed for Architecture and Real Estate photography