If a diesel van had a range of 90 miles it wouldn’t sell . They need to get real with EV’s and not just pay lip service and lower carbon footprint as a brand
Cross wind assist is great until you're the one driving. There's no warning, it just decides to make one side of the van brake and scares the sh*t out of you.
I need a new Van for my business and I would love to buy electric for sustainability but this review just confirms to me that the battery technology is not yet there to make it a good business decision. I’ll wait a year or so to invest in a van that can do 250km
How is the music sound in E Sprinter? Does it have good sound system? How is the noise insulation? Can you compare it to gas Sprinter? Is there Apple CarPlay? Thanks
And if you don't have a fast charger nearby it would take you 7 days to charge at home just to drive 2 hours!😂😂Mercedes should be ashamed of themselves. Almost no one that needs a van drives such short distances. What a waste that precious lithium could be used for something else.
When you think about it though, these vans, are meant more for city work, than anywhere else, where range really isn’t an issue. Just look at the new London Taxis, they don’t have a huge range either, yet that’s not an issue in London. 👍
So 90m 144km. One normal route 400km you need almost 4 charging. 1 h each fast charging 4 h to charge plus 4h drive. Perfect 8h whole day for 400km.wao big success
Hang on so a diesel van might do 40mpg on a motorway, that’s roughly 2.2 gallons of diesel to do 90 miles, how much is that? Around €13 To charge this electric van will cost more than that.
Great review! If Edd can convince us to buy this then I would say he’d make a better car salesman than Mike ever was! Who would vote for Edd to host a new series of top gear? I would... ✋
96 mile range on one charge. Well, that sucks then because taht is on a full charge, and a quick charge is only 80% so that's 77 miles extra, and from there you need to quick charge every 77 miles. And forget about pulling a 3 ton trailer, because that will set you back at least 30% in range if not way more. So there you go, take a 30 minute rest after every 45 miles with a trailer. Hell, electric vans have a long way to go before they can get a desent range with also a 3 ton trailer.
This is not a review This is just reading/memorising the data sheet. I have seen a few reviews that Ed has done on vans but, never has he mentioned something that he really felt. Being a mechanic or putting himself in the tradesman’s shoes, one would expect a more pov review (real time) Simply disappointing, but that is my opinion and that’s what matters to me.
We had compliance cars, and now we are going to have compliance vans like this haha. Peugeot launching Boxer electric van in 2021 with a range (quoted) over 200mi. Seems like a more attractive proposition. I want to see Kia/Hyundai stretch the skateboard EV platform and see if they can get it to suit a large van.
It’s been designed and priced exclusively for business ownership and the various tax benefits. I do struggle with it being affordable as a second hand +100k miles van with the limited range though. Is it any good in 5 years time when it’s got high miles and affordable for a normal builder to own....with that range?
It’s only been designed for Amazon because Amazon is pledging to have an electric fleet of vans and Mercedes have got the contract to provide the vans so that’s the only reason why it’s been built
If Tesla can make a battery pack on a tiny car in comparison (Tesla Model 3) that can go for about 220/310 miles, than Mercedes should absolutely be able to make an even larger battery pack on a giant car such as the sprinter! Would love to have an electric Esprinter but this 90 miles sprinter is a total waste of money and time I guess I'll wait for a couple of years until they take it seriously.
That range is hugely disappointing. If it had a range of 400 or 500 KM, I would totally consider one for the purposes of a camper (even at the price listed) but 96 miles is just disappointing and even for town purposes is not super ideal.
I really don’t know what the point is of all these vans that won’t even do 100 miles. Who are they for! Nice try with the sell though Ed, I’ll admit you gave it a good shot at trying to be enthusiastic!
@2:32, “ With [faster charger], suddenly that 96 range doesn’t seem so limiting.” This guy is disingenuous. After battery degradation (5%), heating/cooling (10%), and range anxiety(15%), battery temperature related inefficiency (5%), your Sprinter EV has the real world range of : 96 * 0.65 = 62.4 miles without considering carrying a heavy load climbing a 5% grade. Essentially, this EV Van is good for one service call per day, with a round trip of 65 miles. You can’t earn enough money doing one service call per day with any work truck. Mercedes is ripping you off - its marketing plan is selling you a 100 kWh battery as replacement, soon to be followed by 150 and 200 kWh battery. Thus, this is the equivalent to the number game that Mercedes play on consumer
For all the whiners: This is more a car for hauling people in cities like, a bus in an inner city. It's not for you, handymen, that drive in excess of 200 miles a day.
I get that they're looking for customers who need only short distances but it's a shame about the range. I'm sure there will be a lot of folk wanting an EV camper who would otherwise see this as their perfect vehicle. I guess that with fast charging it is just about viable but really you'd want about double that...
That interior looks awful, like something from the 1980s. For a £60,000 van I’m amazed it doesn’t even have a built in sat nav screen and radio + cruise control buttons on the steering wheel.
I hire vans for gigs to travel filled with music gear and 2 other people. Most gigs are 100+ miles away. If they gave me one of these I’d be giving a big WTF
Running the diesel version is by faaaaaar cheaper over the long run if you say that the battery version costs the double. You have to be the dumbest guy out there to buy this crappy van...
Someones attempt to get rid of old battery tech most likely. When will we live in a world where engineers actually think things through and make products that make sense...? Im genuinely asking...
This didn’t age well. £12750 can now buy you a 2022 with 2000miles from a main dealer, so trade price on that van is maybe £10k. Realistically, this van is of no use to anyone who travels further than 30miles from base, that’s an extremely limited market.
There's no way that vans viable to any company. The range is literally useless and by the price tag is eye watering. I suppose company's have to start somewhere and this is just the beginning really.
They need atleast a 90kwh Batterie installed,under full.load they just last 60mph i bet on a charge,so they will not sell for shure with that low range and only short bed option. so i keep my diesel 2014 sprinter for now.🤔👎
This proves that electric vehicle's are probbaly the dumbest solution possible, why is no one talking about hydrogen! Hydrogen makes sense, electric doesn't
@@SquareoftheyearFM what hydrogen?😂you have to change everything about a road network to accommodate electric vehicles and the consumer gets a substandard product that is only capable of minimal mileage before you need to stop for 40 mins to charge a vehicle.
@@samf8074 Electricity is everywhere, slow chargers cost next to nothing, fast chargers cost up to 50 grand but are getting cheaper and there are more of them than petrol stations already. Van ranges are poor but the new cars coming to market tend to have pretty decent ranges now. I've just checked, of the twelve hydrogen filling stations in the UK, four are showing as out of order.
@@SquareoftheyearFM yes slow charges are cheap, that’s why nobody uses them and is partly the reason why PHEV vehicles are thought to be worse than a standard conventional engine regarding c02. Fast charging isn’t all too fast in reality when compared to fuelling a vehicle which is where it needs to be. You also have the issue where a high proportion of individuals will not be able to charge their vehicles overnight due to living in houses with street parking, which most people do. And yes a Tesla will offer a decent range of 270 (real world driving) which still isn’t great considering I have to wait 40 mins for my vehicle to charge. However most will never be able to buy a Tesla as they start from roughly 40,000 pounds. Yes there’s lots of electricity but no where near enough to fuel a whole country. So tell me if I live in a house with street parking where do I charge my vehicle overnight? And yes of course that is the case in the uk at the moment because there is enough demand for hydrogen, it’s not that the pumps are unreliable it’s that there is no need to fuel them. Electric vehicles are in my opinion the worst possible solution to creating green vehicles as they do not meet the demands or needs of car uses. T
@@samf8074 40% of households don't have off-street parking not 'most'. The average journey is something around 30miles a day meaning most people would need to charge once every week with something like the electric corsa. You could perhaps charge at one of many public chargers once a week. Supermarkets are even installing them now. Imagine what that'll be like in ten years time when almost every car park has chargers in. The National Grid have already said a few times now that there is enough electricity. Local distribution might be an issue in areas but vehicle to grid systems will actually help out the grid and might reduce our need for fast reaction power stations. Hydrogen is produced from fossil fuels currently and the stations are out of order because hydrogen is really hard to store and massively corrosive to tanks. Also yes a car can 'refill' quicker on hydrogen but only the first few cars. Hydrogen charging stations can usually only charge a certain number of cars a day as they have to recharge their tanks. Electric doesn't work for everyone right now, there's always going to be the unicorn who drives four hundred miles and doesn't need to pee or has to get somewhere without stopping for half hour but the problem with using them as the example means the people who could transition get put off. Hydrogen might be fine for some applications but increasingly BEV's are filling the void.
Laughable. Fine for last mile work, just, but anything else, useless. I'll stick to my 316 - 1100kg payload, 600 miles range and 5 mins to refuel and 120mph where allowed.
That van is a joke, big batteries 90 miles and small batteries 70 miles, so loaded and cold weather small batteries be down to say 40 miles full charge, i've heard people going charging them and travelling 25 miles away to a charger, so it £60k for more or less an unusable van, i have a 70 plate Mercedes sprinter diesel and i wouldn't want that electric van even if they offered me a straight swap
We had compliance cars, and now we are going to have compliance vans like this haha. Peugeot launching Boxer electric van in 2021 with a range (quoted) over 200mi. Seems like a more attractive proposition. I want to see Kia/Hyundai stretch the skateboard EV platform and see if they can get it to suit a large van.
I'd have to be off my rocking horse to spend 62k on a van that does 90 miles 😂
Exactly
Lol
You would have to be crazy to pay 80% tax on diesel well this is a fascist country
How much driving do you guys do? I am an Uber driver and I am going to have to sit you down to tell you to enjoy life and stop driving, yw
There are chargers, like pumps everywhere, unless you live in the boons
Some free
Electric is not there yet . That range is the killer. Until ranges get up to 500 miles, that’s the game changer.
If a diesel van had a range of 90 miles it wouldn’t sell . They need to get real with EV’s and not just pay lip service and lower carbon footprint as a brand
It is unimpressive but for nipping about doing short runs it'd be fine ie in london
Cross wind assist is great until you're the one driving. There's no warning, it just decides to make one side of the van brake and scares the sh*t out of you.
70-96 miles range... high maintenance cost car... you need an extremely good health insurance to cover for the range anxiety long term health issues
Why doesn’t it have a screen in it like the diesels
I need a new Van for my business and I would love to buy electric for sustainability but this review just confirms to me that the battery technology is not yet there to make it a good business decision. I’ll wait a year or so to invest in a van that can do 250km
Just buy diesel or even petrol for a smaller van
3 years later and they still have the same range lol
How is the music sound in E Sprinter? Does it have good sound system? How is the noise insulation? Can you compare it to gas Sprinter? Is there Apple CarPlay? Thanks
If you turn on AC or especially the heater in Van with a payload door the range is pitiful, about 40-45 miles
I would have to charge this 5 times in one day. 😄
And if you don't have a fast charger nearby it would take you 7 days to charge at home just to drive 2 hours!😂😂Mercedes should be ashamed of themselves. Almost no one that needs a van drives such short distances. What a waste that precious lithium could be used for something else.
When you think about it though, these vans, are meant more for city work, than anywhere else, where range really isn’t an issue.
Just look at the new London Taxis, they don’t have a huge range either, yet that’s not an issue in London. 👍
Can just see it now, builder's pinching electricity from your house as they work
That don't do 90 miles. They tested it and they do approx 100 KLM ie 62 miles . That's brand new battery . After a few years that will drop massively
Why does it have a rear view mirror?
So 90m 144km. One normal route 400km you need almost 4 charging. 1 h each fast charging 4 h to charge plus 4h drive. Perfect 8h whole day for 400km.wao big success
For using inside towns, it will be more than enough
60K for a van with an Interior less Equipped then a Dacia, I think not
Hang on so a diesel van might do 40mpg on a motorway, that’s roughly 2.2 gallons of diesel to do 90 miles, how much is that? Around €13
To charge this electric van will cost more than that.
Great review! If Edd can convince us to buy this then I would say he’d make a better car salesman than Mike ever was!
Who would vote for Edd to host a new series of top gear? I would... ✋
96 mile range on one charge. Well, that sucks then because taht is on a full charge, and a quick charge is only 80% so that's 77 miles extra, and from there
you need to quick charge every 77 miles. And forget about pulling a 3 ton trailer, because that will set you back at least 30% in range if not way more.
So there you go, take a 30 minute rest after every 45 miles with a trailer. Hell, electric vans have a long way to go before they can get a desent range with also a 3 ton trailer.
Most couriers are 75 miles away from me, so I won't see UPS, DPD or Parcelforce turning up in one of these anytime soon then.
Amazon, Ocado and Morrisons already had them before you made this comment
@@sirkermy and?
If they could make this a hybrid, it would be fantastic!
This is not a review
This is just reading/memorising the data sheet.
I have seen a few reviews that Ed has done on vans but, never has he mentioned something that he really felt. Being a mechanic or putting himself in the tradesman’s shoes, one would expect a more pov review (real time)
Simply disappointing, but that is my opinion and that’s what matters to me.
this is 2021 and people are getting moist about a Electric van that can do 90 miles . Seriously wtf
I think I keep my Peugeot electric at 186miles
"So what do you need most, miles or moving"? How about both Ed.
Can we please also have metric numbers in display when you mention non metric values?
What happened to metric,km.pls.
here's a hint: its an English channel, filmed in England and intended for a UK audience... we don't use metric for large measurements of distance
Jesus, that interior is spartan. I've seen more creature comforts in a tent, and at the price they want.....
We had compliance cars, and now we are going to have compliance vans like this haha. Peugeot launching Boxer electric van in 2021 with a range (quoted) over 200mi. Seems like a more attractive proposition. I want to see Kia/Hyundai stretch the skateboard EV platform and see if they can get it to suit a large van.
It’s been designed and priced exclusively for business ownership and the various tax benefits. I do struggle with it being affordable as a second hand +100k miles van with the limited range though. Is it any good in 5 years time when it’s got high miles and affordable for a normal builder to own....with that range?
It’s only been designed for Amazon because Amazon is pledging to have an electric fleet of vans and Mercedes have got the contract to provide the vans so that’s the only reason why it’s been built
@@borisjohnson7553 makes sense.
Good review, have you or are you going to do a review of the Peugeot boxer ?????
It is low on features for an electric van, but it’s not as bad as some of the classics. It does for example have that USB-C port, so it gets a 3/10.
If Tesla can make a battery pack on a tiny car in comparison (Tesla Model 3) that can go for about 220/310 miles, than Mercedes should absolutely be able to make an even larger battery pack on a giant car such as the sprinter! Would love to have an electric Esprinter but this 90 miles sprinter is a total waste of money and time I guess I'll wait for a couple of years until they take it seriously.
That range is hugely disappointing. If it had a range of 400 or 500 KM, I would totally consider one for the purposes of a camper (even at the price listed) but 96 miles is just disappointing and even for town purposes is not super ideal.
They have some work to do to get e-vans more mainstream, great review. Thanks Edd!
So this is the choice for London?
I really don’t know what the point is of all these vans that won’t even do 100 miles. Who are they for! Nice try with the sell though Ed, I’ll admit you gave it a good shot at trying to be enthusiastic!
As the saying goes. ..” a fool and their money are easily parted”
Even my wife's florist business which could use this as all local miles, then you look are the start price, still no.
No Android Auto and no screen. They must be kidding.
@2:32, “ With [faster charger], suddenly that 96 range doesn’t seem so limiting.” This guy is disingenuous. After battery degradation (5%), heating/cooling (10%), and range anxiety(15%), battery temperature related inefficiency (5%), your Sprinter EV has the real world range of : 96 * 0.65 = 62.4 miles without considering carrying a heavy load climbing a 5% grade. Essentially, this EV Van is good for one service call per day, with a round trip of 65 miles. You can’t earn enough money doing one service call per day with any work truck. Mercedes is ripping you off - its marketing plan is selling you a 100 kWh battery as replacement, soon to be followed by 150 and 200 kWh battery. Thus, this is the equivalent to the number game that Mercedes play on consumer
For all the whiners: This is more a car for hauling people in cities like, a bus in an inner city. It's not for you, handymen, that drive in excess of 200 miles a day.
Good one, we want more broll
I wouldn’t buy this with such a limited range! Once electric vehicles do 300+ miles I’ll think about it, but not until then! Price is ridiculous!
Wouldn’t consider it in the high,ands due to range
But could it survive Rufford Ford?
I get that they're looking for customers who need only short distances but it's a shame about the range.
I'm sure there will be a lot of folk wanting an EV camper who would otherwise see this as their perfect vehicle.
I guess that with fast charging it is just about viable but really you'd want about double that...
Nice video Ed...
There is no justification for an EV van, or any vehicle, to cost more than 200£ (or indeed, 150) per kWh of battery, as compared to a diesel one.
That interior looks awful, like something from the 1980s. For a £60,000 van I’m amazed it doesn’t even have a built in sat nav screen and radio + cruise control buttons on the steering wheel.
transit and sprinter my favorite
Would be nice if these reviews actually 'reviewed' them in realistic scenarios I.e load it up and drive it not just regurgitate makers specs.
I gave up watching this video when he said it will do less than 100 miles per charge FFS DIESEL IS KING
Edd China, você é o melhor. ✌
hey Ed you should weld some fender flairs on it - LOL
I hire vans for gigs to travel filled with music gear and 2 other people. Most gigs are 100+ miles away. If they gave me one of these I’d be giving a big WTF
It's a van, loads of space to put battery under the load area and Mercedes give you under 100 miles? Makes no sense.
This is what happens when your out of work and you sell your soul and integrity to make the bills. Oh dear Ed what have you done?
Sad but true !
We all got to eat!
Running the diesel version is by faaaaaar cheaper over the long run if you say that the battery version costs the double. You have to be the dumbest guy out there to buy this crappy van...
Edd's talents are wasted on reviewing vans.
Agree!... It’s a crying shame, but so often in life, the “ higher you fly the harder you fall” too often egos are the ruin of many a man.
Someones attempt to get rid of old battery tech most likely. When will we live in a world where engineers actually think things through and make products that make sense...? Im genuinely asking...
Will buy when they get to 500miles range
This didn’t age well. £12750 can now buy you a 2022 with 2000miles from a main dealer, so trade price on that van is maybe £10k.
Realistically, this van is of no use to anyone who travels further than 30miles from base, that’s an extremely limited market.
original diesel weight 9000lbs! too much weight! may need think about to reduce weigh as the same time double or triple the battery set
A panel Van with a 55kwh battery for 62k what a rip off lithium batterys are not expensive 100$ a kWh don't buy needs at least 100kwh battery
Thats not how it works😂
There's no way that vans viable to any company. The range is literally useless and by the price tag is eye watering. I suppose company's have to start somewhere and this is just the beginning really.
The Channel is called “ WHAT CAR” not “ WHAT VAN”
96mile range... smh
They need atleast a 90kwh Batterie installed,under full.load they just last 60mph i bet on a charge,so they will not sell for shure with that low range and only short bed option. so i keep my diesel 2014 sprinter for now.🤔👎
I would rather spend 62k on a flat and rent it out.
62000£ !!!!!!
Obviously designed for Amazon deliveries
They will lose big money on these.
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Mercedes lost me at less thank 100 miles range,.. lol i'll wait for my cyber truck sorry lol
Awesome ❤
The range is reflection. How Mercedes is behind and out of touch.
Made in V’China
Someone at Mercedes needs kicking !!
This proves that electric vehicle's are probbaly the dumbest solution possible, why is no one talking about hydrogen! Hydrogen makes sense, electric doesn't
Because it’s much more costly, less efficient and has nowhere near the levels of infrastructure.
@@SquareoftheyearFM what hydrogen?😂you have to change everything about a road network to accommodate electric vehicles and the consumer gets a substandard product that is only capable of minimal mileage before you need to stop for 40 mins to charge a vehicle.
@@samf8074 Electricity is everywhere, slow chargers cost next to nothing, fast chargers cost up to 50 grand but are getting cheaper and there are more of them than petrol stations already. Van ranges are poor but the new cars coming to market tend to have pretty decent ranges now.
I've just checked, of the twelve hydrogen filling stations in the UK, four are showing as out of order.
@@SquareoftheyearFM yes slow charges are cheap, that’s why nobody uses them and is partly the reason why PHEV vehicles are thought to be worse than a standard conventional engine regarding c02. Fast charging isn’t all too fast in reality when compared to fuelling a vehicle which is where it needs to be. You also have the issue where a high proportion of individuals will not be able to charge their vehicles overnight due to living in houses with street parking, which most people do. And yes a Tesla will offer a decent range of 270 (real world driving) which still isn’t great considering I have to wait 40 mins for my vehicle to charge. However most will never be able to buy a Tesla as they start from roughly 40,000 pounds. Yes there’s lots of electricity but no where near enough to fuel a whole country. So tell me if I live in a house with street parking where do I charge my vehicle overnight?
And yes of course that is the case in the uk at the moment because there is enough demand for hydrogen, it’s not that the pumps are unreliable it’s that there is no need to fuel them.
Electric vehicles are in my opinion the worst possible solution to creating green vehicles as they do not meet the demands or needs of car uses. T
@@samf8074 40% of households don't have off-street parking not 'most'.
The average journey is something around 30miles a day meaning most people would need to charge once every week with something like the electric corsa. You could perhaps charge at one of many public chargers once a week. Supermarkets are even installing them now. Imagine what that'll be like in ten years time when almost every car park has chargers in.
The National Grid have already said a few times now that there is enough electricity. Local distribution might be an issue in areas but vehicle to grid systems will actually help out the grid and might reduce our need for fast reaction power stations.
Hydrogen is produced from fossil fuels currently and the stations are out of order because hydrogen is really hard to store and massively corrosive to tanks. Also yes a car can 'refill' quicker on hydrogen but only the first few cars. Hydrogen charging stations can usually only charge a certain number of cars a day as they have to recharge their tanks.
Electric doesn't work for everyone right now, there's always going to be the unicorn who drives four hundred miles and doesn't need to pee or has to get somewhere without stopping for half hour but the problem with using them as the example means the people who could transition get put off.
Hydrogen might be fine for some applications but increasingly BEV's are filling the void.
62 grand??? LMFAO
Poor edd.. 😞
Why?
@@danieljordannicol9937 Left a top show, everyone thinking he would do something big, and now he's on a mediocre youtube channel!
Watch this space! Talent doesn’t go unnoticed for long! It was only a TOP show because Edd was in it...
E vans super.
Have to over 500km range
Tesla should make vans.
£60K+.. now £16k plus vat .. the EV Scam continues.
Highly unimpressive.
Under 100 miles of range? WTF... That is weak.
Go anywhere far and you need to double your travel time just from stopping and charging.
Lmaooo. 70-96 miles of charger. Yeah that’s a big no 😂
You lost me at 75 mph
Laughable. Fine for last mile work, just, but anything else, useless. I'll stick to my 316 - 1100kg payload, 600 miles range and 5 mins to refuel and 120mph where allowed.
That van is a joke, big batteries 90 miles and small batteries 70 miles, so loaded and cold weather small batteries be down to say 40 miles full charge, i've heard people going charging them and travelling 25 miles away to a charger, so it £60k for more or less an unusable van, i have a 70 plate Mercedes sprinter diesel and i wouldn't want that electric van even if they offered me a straight swap
I saw this on TFL being tested in USA, they should build this in the South Carolina plant, I won't be buying a Mexican or Chinese Mercedes
Absolutely terrible. Just way to expensive and way to limited in terms of practical use. What is Ed doing !!!???
Blimey. Rubbish. Get a diesel van
useless and overpriced.
We had compliance cars, and now we are going to have compliance vans like this haha. Peugeot launching Boxer electric van in 2021 with a range (quoted) over 200mi. Seems like a more attractive proposition. I want to see Kia/Hyundai stretch the skateboard EV platform and see if they can get it to suit a large van.