Nice to see you guys doing a video together especially about cleaning windows the traditional way. I always find a lot of negativity from guys who only wfp, some only having gotten in to the game recently with no experience of trad or ladder work. Most of my work I do trad style and I don’t need a lecture on health and safety, which is better or other derogatory names people call trad cleaners on the forums. I keep very busy and am continuously getting new work and people are very happy with my work.
You’ll always get work because people prefer the ‘old skool’ I’ve lost count of the amount of times people have told me they don’t like the wfp method.. I do both and think that’s the best way to be, many strings and all that.
Great informative video, traditional is king. A great soap mixture I'm using right now is A mixture with some of the best chemicals! - Titan GG4 - Winsol super slip - Squeegee off Spider mess gets melted, so it really does produce a good, quick and easy job for the regular residentials. Be careful when handling these chemicals! Thanks 👍
I’ve been window cleaning since I was 18 I’m 28 now and i am absolutely gob smacked by the amount of window cleaners who do not know how to traditional window clean. Before I could even WFP my dad taught me how to traditional clean a window. Was helping a mate out last year with his crew and they were mesmerised when I got my trad gear on to tackle some awkward windows, literally just stood there in oar like what I didn’t even know people still doing traditional window cleaning like it’s an old art from the Victorian times. In my eyes if you can’t trad you are not a window cleaner
Years before I became a window cleaner I used to go and help a buddy of mine out doing trad when he was really busy then when we started WFP as a job we made sure we could do trad so we could do insides so I was acting up for the camera a bit on the video. Doing trad is an art and it takes practice to do it well and fast. But things change and are made easier to learn so you don't have to learn to do trad anymore to earn a good wage and do a good job.
100% agree I find cleaning traditional most of the time faster 😆 I use wfp 40% of the time It's the person behind the tools that make them good 😆 Not 5 sec a window splash and go
you explain so great, thanks! all the years i make a mistake and did not find the reason why i have litte lines... You say "more parachouting, not big 90 degree angle" at 10:53 and i try it: absolutly perfect good work now! thanks!!
Totally agree regarding to gripping the squeegee to hard, ive been fitting window film since 89, and started tradition cleaning also in southern spain, 23 years now, had carpul tunnel operation on both hands, partly from work, partially from weight training, a good training video for newbies for sure.
I know a professional violinist who had a doctor recommend an operation. He got a second opinion and it wasn’t necessary. If he had proceeded it might have ended his career etc. lesson - health professionals can be dangerous.
Agree with most of it but I use an 18 u her a plus and I usually start top left go down on an angle and finish to the side, 1-2 mm either side to Scrim off and saves your joints. Do what ever feels comfortable
Applying soap directly to the aplicator ONLY works in rainy areas like the UK. In the SW desert if the US, that much surfactant attracts dust like crazy
Like Peter said...there is no right, or wrong, everyone has their own technique. I like to feather the top edge first, for example, reason being, that less soapy water is on the squeegee as it parachutes down....works every time. This method is far better than " cutting in", because the leading edge is full of soap, which can easily leave a trailing line in the window. If you can create a ,what I call " dry zone " , at the top of the window, with feathering, then that is the best way to NOT leave streaks. 9 time's out of 10, its the incorrect loading on the squeegee, of too much soap, caused by the cutting in method. Window cleaners think they have to change their squeegee rubber, when in fact it is the incorrect method that causes streaks. My rubber lasts me 6/7months on one side , then I turn it over. Great 👍 video guys, hope my information helps....
Can you explain your feathering method a bit more for me or recommend a video to look up which you feel explains it well? Just getting started here and keen to soak up all the advice on offer!
@@stompinknowledge3968yes..no problem. Basically , instead of starting from the sides, with the squeegee, start from the very top edge. Put the squeegee rubber to the top edge of the glass, horizontally, then move the squeegee down the window, forcing the water, from the very top , down, whilst not taking the rubber off the glass. The better you start( take your time in starting), the better the results. Hope this helps
"Blade" master 👍 Also ecover is the best liquid. Fairy liquid is too greasy and cracks your fingers. Trust me I've been blading longer than both these guys put together
I would never use Fairy on wooden oil coated window frames cos of it's salt content. Dove moisturising hand wash is gentle on said frames if a tad expensive.
Which kind of EcoVer do you use? Trying to find it here in Australia and it looks like there's laundry or dishes types - I'm guessing dishes, but is there a difference? Cheers
All hail the Gurus! What a great video. After interviewing you both for my channel back in 2020, it's great to see you in action together. Very informative and excellent training, Peter.
Lot of fannying around there Dave...parachuting down the glass bumping off the sides like a pinball wizard! Less turns the better for your wrist , speed and obviously money. Think you nailed it first time.
That was more of a demonstration for someone that has never done any before. Pete goes on to more advanced methods getting faster and more efficient as he goes on
Hi Ken. Try these. They are all good but it just depends on what you need and your budget. Also you should be able to use the code TCG5 to get an extra 5% off www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/starter-kits-397-c.asp
@@jonnygunner65would love to hear you say that at four o clock after being out on the windows with me from eight in the morning honestly would love to hear it I’ll put my life on it you change your tune
@@PaulJones-xl6xq Well,when you can re-wire a building,plumb it from scratch, fit the kitchen including cutting the worktops to a Rizzla papers join,lift and install all the appliances (including the double ovens,dishwashers,fridge freezers) tile all the floors(sometimes in 20mm limestone) as well as all the other things involved…TO THE MILLIMETRE so that your client is happy….when you can do all of that, then you’d be happy to go and clean windows for a fucking break. Let alone the absolute non skill element involved. Get over yourself if you think that what you do amounts to anything more than a hobby. It’s one up from grass cutting,and one down from painting. You’d be gagging to go home at 2 in the afternoon if you did my job-it would kill you. No sitting in your van having fag breaks every half an hour. Window cleaning…Jesus.
Why don't these younger blokes ever use scrim, it's far better than microfibre. I've been cleaning windows for more than 50 years, talk about making things difficult.
Can’t beat traditional and I’ll tell you why. I love wfp. Can’t beat it for speed and convenience. But the difference is with trad when I walk away I am 100% confident that window is pristine. With wfp no matter how good you think you are or how good you rinse sometimes things go wrong. Filters get clogged. Shit happens. Either way I am never ever 100 % certain a window is perfect when I walk away unless I wait for it to dry!! Personally I’m charging more for trad because it takes longer and takes skills I’ve honed over ten years. Can teach a wfp in a hour. Not the same. Minimum 25% premium for using trad methods
Nice to see you guys doing a video together especially about cleaning windows the traditional way. I always find a lot of negativity from guys who only wfp, some only having gotten in to the game recently with no experience of trad or ladder work. Most of my work I do trad style and I don’t need a lecture on health and safety, which is better or other derogatory names people call trad cleaners on the forums. I keep very busy and am continuously getting new work and people are very happy with my work.
It was good fun to do the video together. Personally I think there is a place for both trad and wfp
You’ll always get work because people prefer the ‘old skool’ I’ve lost count of the amount of times people have told me they don’t like the wfp method.. I do both and think that’s the best way to be, many strings and all that.
My right ear enjoyed this! 😅
Great informative video, traditional is king. A great soap mixture I'm using right now is A mixture with some of the best chemicals!
- Titan GG4
- Winsol super slip
- Squeegee off
Spider mess gets melted, so it really does produce a good, quick and easy job for the regular residentials. Be careful when handling these chemicals! Thanks 👍
Thanks for the suggestion Adam
was fantastic to hang out with you Dave and nice to be able to make a vid with you to 😊👍🏻
lovely job with the editing as always 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Always a pleasure 👍
@@squeakycleandave1 😊🤜🏻🤛🏻
I struggle with learning new things and your format is perfect for me!
Glad you found it useful 👍
I’ve been window cleaning since I was 18 I’m 28 now and i am absolutely gob smacked by the amount of window cleaners who do not know how to traditional window clean. Before I could even WFP my dad taught me how to traditional clean a window. Was helping a mate out last year with his crew and they were mesmerised when I got my trad gear on to tackle some awkward windows, literally just stood there in oar like what I didn’t even know people still doing traditional window cleaning like it’s an old art from the Victorian times. In my eyes if you can’t trad you are not a window cleaner
Years before I became a window cleaner I used to go and help a buddy of mine out doing trad when he was really busy then when we started WFP as a job we made sure we could do trad so we could do insides so I was acting up for the camera a bit on the video.
Doing trad is an art and it takes practice to do it well and fast. But things change and are made easier to learn so you don't have to learn to do trad anymore to earn a good wage and do a good job.
Put ya trumpet away
100% agree I find cleaning traditional most of the time faster 😆 I use wfp 40% of the time
It's the person behind the tools that make them good 😆
Not 5 sec a window splash and go
The difference between a window cleaner and a window washer. Reach and wash lol
10 years…cleaning widows…fuck me…and you consider it what? You make out 10 years making glass smear free to be an art?…get over yourself.
you explain so great, thanks! all the years i make a mistake and did not find the reason why i have litte lines... You say "more parachouting, not big 90 degree angle" at 10:53 and i try it: absolutly perfect good work now! thanks!!
Very glad it was useful
Totally agree regarding to gripping the squeegee to hard, ive been fitting window film since 89, and started tradition cleaning also in southern spain, 23 years now, had carpul tunnel operation on both hands, partly from work, partially from weight training, a good training video for newbies for sure.
Thanks Mike 👍
😁👍
I know a professional violinist who had a doctor recommend an operation. He got a second opinion and it wasn’t necessary. If he had proceeded it might have ended his career etc. lesson - health professionals can be dangerous.
Hey thanks for this video. Nice work guys!
Agree with most of it but I use an 18 u her a plus and I usually start top left go down on an angle and finish to the side, 1-2 mm either side to Scrim off and saves your joints. Do what ever feels comfortable
Trad man looks like he's about to do some wing Chun techniques 💯👍
🤣🤣
squeegee fu 🥷
I idolize both of you dudes. Good work. Good channels
Thanks Bud 👍
Excellent advice, its been taken onboard. Two fine fellas ☘️
👍Thanks JD
😉
Applying soap directly to the aplicator ONLY works in rainy areas like the UK. In the SW desert if the US, that much surfactant attracts dust like crazy
Nice to know we’ve been doing it right for the past 14 years 😉 😅
Like Peter said...there is no right, or wrong, everyone has their own technique.
I like to feather the top edge first, for example, reason being, that less soapy water is on the squeegee as it parachutes down....works every time.
This method is far better than " cutting in", because the leading edge is full of soap, which can easily leave a trailing line in the window.
If you can create a ,what I call " dry zone " , at the top of the window, with feathering, then that is the best way to NOT leave streaks.
9 time's out of 10, its the incorrect loading on the squeegee, of too much soap, caused by the cutting in method.
Window cleaners think they have to change their squeegee rubber, when in fact it is the incorrect method that causes streaks.
My rubber lasts me 6/7months on one side , then I turn it over.
Great 👍 video guys, hope my information helps....
Thanks for sharing 👍
Can you explain your feathering method a bit more for me or recommend a video to look up which you feel explains it well? Just getting started here and keen to soak up all the advice on offer!
@@stompinknowledge3968yes..no problem. Basically , instead of starting from the sides, with the squeegee, start from the very top edge.
Put the squeegee rubber to the top edge of the glass, horizontally, then move the squeegee down the window, forcing the water, from the very top , down, whilst not taking the rubber off the glass.
The better you start( take your time in starting), the better the results.
Hope this helps
@@squeakycleandave1hi Dave, your very welcome
Spot on that dave
Thanks guys
Thanks for watching 👍
😊👍🏻
"Blade" master 👍
Also ecover is the best liquid. Fairy liquid is too greasy and cracks your fingers. Trust me I've been blading longer than both these guys put together
Thanks for the tip
I would never use Fairy on wooden oil coated window frames cos of it's salt content.
Dove moisturising
hand wash is gentle on said frames if a tad expensive.
Which kind of EcoVer do you use? Trying to find it here in Australia and it looks like there's laundry or dishes types - I'm guessing dishes, but is there a difference?
Cheers
You what the soaps are used for???
Breaks the water tension.
Nice lesson, from 2 Squeaky Trained Professors ;) ; you use a straight channel , not the dog eared one ? Thanks
It was just the one I had handy when we made the video
All hail the Gurus! What a great video. After interviewing you both for my channel back in 2020, it's great to see you in action together.
Very informative and excellent training, Peter.
I don’t know about the Gurus 🤣 but it was good to do a video together in person rather then digitally 👍
Good to hear from you Duncan! hope your well brotha 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@@TradMan Yes, doing very well. We hope that we sell our business by the end of the year so that we can scoot over to Ireland for a while. 🙏🙏
@@McRaesWindowCleaning 😊👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks bros
😁👍🏻
Thanks for watching Phil
Hi dave does trad-man clean frames as well???
I think so yes
yes I do 😊👍🏻
I can’t believe you don’t clean the frames every time. Just the glass.
Whats the best way to cut the squeegee rubbers down to size?
I do it with a scraper on top or the rubber which is lay flat then push down so you get a good square cut but I'm no expert
@@squeakycleandave1 a good square cut sounds expert enough! Thanks Dave!
You didn’t show how to finish off at the bottom of frame ….but big respect to Trad man
Didn’t want to give to much away or there would have been no reason to book a course
warm or cold water works best?
Warm is best. I always say try washing your dishes with cold water
Lot of fannying around there Dave...parachuting down the glass bumping off the sides like a pinball wizard! Less turns the better for your wrist , speed and obviously money. Think you nailed it first time.
That was more of a demonstration for someone that has never done any before. Pete goes on to more advanced methods getting faster and more efficient as he goes on
I'm from Papua New Guinea and Interested, any online training
Contact Trad Man. he does online training.
tradmanacademy.com
great training
thank you
Thanks 👍
❤thank you I love it
Could anyone recommend a half decent trad cleaning kit.
Hi Ken.
Try these. They are all good but it just depends on what you need and your budget. Also you should be able to use the code TCG5 to get an extra 5% off
www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/starter-kits-397-c.asp
Give Dave an Oscar he’s only being doing it before time
Texas checking in. For the life of me, I will never understand putting soap directly on the applicator. I love you Brits, but...why?
Great video Dave and Peter, is there a translator from Scottish to English 😂😂
dave just has to drink iron bru then he understands me 👍🏻
@@TradMan hi brother you keeping well? WCL 👍
@@FlashTechEngineering yeah not too bad thanks just battling on 😁
How's you??
@@TradMan going awesome bro exciting time’s ahead.. closes than yesterday 😂🤙
🤣🤣🤣
I have no sound
Don’t know why. Nobody else has had a problem
IS THIS A JOKE
It must be…these clowns are making out it’s a proper job. It’s a step up from cutting grass.
@@jonnygunner65would love to hear you say that at four o clock after being out on the windows with me from eight in the morning honestly would love to hear it I’ll put my life on it you change your tune
@@PaulJones-xl6xq Well,when you can re-wire a building,plumb it from scratch, fit the kitchen including cutting the worktops to a Rizzla papers join,lift and install all the appliances (including the double ovens,dishwashers,fridge freezers) tile all the floors(sometimes in 20mm limestone) as well as all the other things involved…TO THE MILLIMETRE so that your client is happy….when you can do all of that, then you’d be happy to go and clean windows for a fucking break. Let alone the absolute non skill element involved. Get over yourself if you think that what you do amounts to anything more than a hobby. It’s one up from grass cutting,and one down from painting.
You’d be gagging to go home at 2 in the afternoon if you did my job-it would kill you. No sitting in your van having fag breaks every half an hour. Window cleaning…Jesus.
Why don't these younger blokes ever use scrim, it's far better than microfibre. I've been cleaning windows for more than 50 years, talk about making things difficult.
You took to much
Took to much what
Can’t beat traditional and I’ll tell you why. I love wfp. Can’t beat it for speed and convenience. But the difference is with trad when I walk away I am 100% confident that window is pristine. With wfp no matter how good you think you are or how good you rinse sometimes things go wrong. Filters get clogged. Shit happens. Either way I am never ever 100 % certain a window is perfect when I walk away unless I wait for it to dry!! Personally I’m charging more for trad because it takes longer and takes skills I’ve honed over ten years. Can teach a wfp in a hour. Not the same. Minimum 25% premium for using trad methods
@@PaulJones-xl6xq there is a place in the trade for both
I still do lots of trad work but residential internal work is a no. If you've not bled lots from an unger scraper blade you're not doing it right
Why is it a no for residential internal?