@@user-br3fk8dx8o journalist will shit on players they think are worth their time. If you haven't noticed, he's not very vocal about Evi or anyone else not on bjergsens caliber. BJERG was and is still a player that will have traffic and thorin understands that. Skip shits on lebron more than Dillion and Grayson Allen in the NBA for a reason.
I wasn't sure how the reaction would be, since he was getting a lot of flak for the retirement team of 100T. Understandably so, he wasn't performing anywhere near his older days. Still, though, I'm glad he's getting all the props as he goes, cause man was a menace in his time that dominated the league.
So many of the newer viewers never saw how good he was from 2014-2017. Thanks for attesting to the fact that in his prime bjerg was definitely a world class mid.
Damn, that was brave of him to talk about his suicidal thoughts. Props to the guy, it is a really difficult choice to step back from everything like that. I hope for the best for him!
Bjerg was always my goat. There was a time where I had blind loyalty that maybe NA could do something at worlds after watching the lcs both spring and summer. It was back in 2017. I was so hyped to see Bjerg and DL get another shot internationally because I just knew they would get farther this time. I’ll always look back fondly at the memories of his time playing, he gave me hope and pride to love NA.
Bjergsen inspired me and so many others to get invested into this game way back in 2012/2013. His attention to detail in the game was unheard of at the time and the fact that people still disrespect him because of international results is crazy to me.
I would never call myself a die hard bjergsen fan; but he's always been entertaining to watch and Ive always respected his skill, candor and his professionalism both in game and out. Doing something for 12+ years is a long time to be stuck in one position. Winning or losing, you're fundamentally spending 10+ hours a day in a chair staring at a screen, off time thinking about what youre doing while sitting in that chair staring at that screen, feeling pressure for how well you click your mouse and press your buttons while sitting in the chair staring at the screen, taking heat when you dont play well, maintaining professionalism and crafting your skill outside of the game, all the while having to neglect personal care and time with others. It always shocks me when league pros get married; as they fundamentally just dont have much time to even BE in a relationship. Bjergsen's always lauded by his peers and his opponents alike; truly an inspirational person, not just a good league of legends player.
Huge resect for Bjerg. Always hated when C9 had to play against TSM becuase i knew he was so good and the game was gonna be a hard win, but just proves how top tier he was. I would love a long form video at some point where Dom could sit down with other long time players from his time and just listen to conversation about the things we, as fans, never get to hear.
I remember when TheOddOne opened up the door for him in the announcement video. Who fucking knew that 16 year old would become our Michael Fucking Jordan.
Bjergsen single handedly brought up NA mid levels. even though he tried, the culture bourght everyone else down. Despite that, Bjerg tried his best to biring up this region. He worked hard and didnt' get the reward that matches up his effort imo. But it looks like he is content with his journey and is happy with it. He still made bag, even though i feel like he should've gotten 2-3x more, and is happy stepping away. I hope he has a great rest of his life away from SMS like he had been and he intends to.
I'm just reading some comments and I see some people mention he wasn't an alpha midlaner in the LCS, it might be hard to imagine watching his play the last few years, but his debut season he could pick anything he wanted, zed, leblanc, fizz, and dominate EVERY midlaner in the LCS, Bjergsen not getting a solokill in the laning phase was actually rare. They were not calling him NA faker just for nothing, it actually felt like watching fakers dominance in the NA region when watching him play back in the day (obviously not the same level in leagues but still)
I’m pretty sure he solo killed pretty much every mid laner in the league that season it was wild. People that try and say “people didn’t know how to play the game then” just isn’t true. The game was just way different. League has changed so much since the early years. Thats kind of what has kept the game alive for so long as well. Anyone who doesn’t respect Bjergsen is just a hater.
It's so crazy what Soren has done to the esports scene it's not just people from the LCS or league of legends who are showing their respects for him it's the people who are twitch streamers, and literally any known pro from other games like Apex, Valorant, Fortnite, CS:GO literally it's so nice to see.
All the weirdos on reddit and twitter were saying "good riddance about time. he's washed, never won worlds". Like you know those people are just delusional and unhappy.
It's funny that a guy who should have been and LEC legend is the NA LCS GOAT. I've been a Bjerg fan since he came to NA, and he's who gave me hope for the region. His second season here I just knew he was different and he would be what lead North America to a world championship. Long live The Bjerger King
Good thing Bjergsen didn’t waste away on Copenhagen Wolves/NiP orgs. NA overall couldn’t compete, but this guy was a world class mid for years, and was given visibility.
I remember when he just got picked up from NA. This guy was really the GOAT of NA and a pillar to the region. Sad to say, Soren is very wiser much older know, I think that goes for so many players too. Yea, pro gamer is fine, but I think Soren came to realize that life has more purposeful meaning when you come to realize been doing something for so long and interest have become different now.
truly an iconic player in the league scene, from west to east he is respected by peers and rivals. My goat and the first player I truly followed since the beginning
Alot of people forget that he actually won allstars in 2015 1v1 and came to the finals in 2017 1v1 beating faker etc loosing 1 of the finals to uzi. the only one winning more than him is UZI. Which he lost to in the final due to a completely broken kalista at that time. Had he been invited as many times as UZI fx. in 2016 he might have been the goat in allstar 1v1. But he ended top 2 all time in that event in the 1v1s. Nothing he really could do there. But at a time subtracting the team I would argue he was the best player in the world. around 15-17 ish. At least on par with faker and the other top mids.
People love to call Dom a hater, but this video shows he really is just passionate about the game. Bjergsen is a guy that has always tried insanely hard to be the best, and Dom recognizes and respects that. Everyone that truly cares about the game knows that Bjerg is the goat of NA.
Ironic how league is saving lives when people literally type k ys in chat 24/7 😂but in all seriousness glad bjerg still breathing and respect to the man!
I wish he would have just joined a korean or chinese team. They take it so much seriously over there and he might have been able to get at least one world championship in his career. A decent portion of American players are just lazy. Like they'll have raw talent, intuition, etc, but won't put the work in to be consistent like Bjergsen is. And on top of that, his reputation as the best player in NA, made his teams rely on him too much.
Love him or hate him, you can’t deny his influence on NALCS and on League as a whole. He might not have won a world title but you can’t deny the raw skil and potential that Bjergsen had.
League has been kind of on a slow bleed out since 2017 with its major height in 2014, but it has definitely outlived the 2-4 year cycle we saw with Warcraft and Starcraft etc
It's wild for me I still remember how NA lcs had so many vieuwers and I was a jalouse EU fan. Now I don't care about the scene anymore things change fast.
The fact that literally EVERYONE (besides the negative gremlin Thorin) has nothing but POSITIVES to say about Bjergsen the person / player says everything you need to know
Thorin is pretty fair to bjergsen, he always gave him props for being a great player, arguably the greatest ever, domestically in the LCS. His criticisms of bjergsen's limitations internationally, role in the TSM organization's specific limitations, and then finally his drop off in performance in the last few years have also been quite fair.
He wasn't overrated in his prime, he was the best mid laner in the west. But after his prime, recent 4-5 years, people overrated him, his mechanics could never bring him the advantage, just like the older pro, he was trying to be a team player, but could never catch up to that playstyle right. Also his career being in NA hugely restrict his talent, just like the other young talent in NA. It really suck to see those talents fall in NA.
league saved his life, and my god did he pay it back, he is probably the player who has done the most for the health and growth of the game aside from Faker and maybe Uzi
TL and 100t haven't been around a decade. And TSM regularly beat c9 to win the NA championship. He's probably the most decorated NA player in the history of the game, and 90% of it was with TSM.
@@ethosterros9430 Thats not even remotely close lmao. My mother is okinawan; I am american... full stop lmao. I am not tangentially related to anything to "immigrant status" and spoilers : neither are you. Just because your family has strong heritage does not fundamentally change yours lmao
Well, he seems to have a nicr house, probably made enough noney to live and provide all he needs and maybe even start a business. He is looks like a really good person too, so yes good for him to step away from this game, Life have mroe for him than that.
With all due respect, that would have been 2014. When Korea was so good, that Faker and Rookie didn't even make it to Worlds. That was also the time, where Froggen and xPeke were still relevant. Maple was already doing Maple things. China was competing with the LCK without all those imports, having 2 teams in the Top 4 at Worlds. With all due respect: You will find 5 better midlaner in that year. And since then, he failed to get out of Groups 4 times at Worlds and twice at MSI. Meaning the Westdoors and Febivens had more international success. You don't need to make insane claims, just to honor a retired legend. There are enough good things to say, without exaggerating.
He was, but many people don't understand. He was a menace in lane, and pros back then were terrified by him. Sure, he wasn't as good as asians mid laners in tf and roaming, but (excluding Faker, Rookie and Pawn) he was the best laner. He ruined his career playing in NA, in a team far inferior that him. The amount of people he soloed early in his career is off the charts.
Nope, not even close. Look, you leave NA player in NA, don't ever bring them to international competition. You could say he is NA GOAT or whatever, it's all good, but when u bring your NA GOAT to Worlds. They are at the very bottom tier, just slightly better than those wild cards team.
Bjergsen in a tough position, his fans overrate him and his haters underrate him in similar ways. He was the best laner in the west and always top 3 midlaner in the west (season 4 to season 8). His problem was that he wasn't as good as Koreans in team fights and roaming, and impacting the game with low resources, but If you give him kills (gold) he snowball out of control. Another problem is that Caps outshine him in every way when he arrive in the pro scene.
He was the symbol and physical representation of the league. Without him we never could have been the saddest, most underachieving, pathetic excuse for an esports league. Our GOAT was a femboy Zilean main from Europe....let that sink in.
honestly so sweet seeing everybody give such mad respect to Bjerg after that announcment, he will really be remembered
@@user-br3fk8dx8o Flame is Thorin's love language.
@@user-br3fk8dx8o journalist will shit on players they think are worth their time. If you haven't noticed, he's not very vocal about Evi or anyone else not on bjergsens caliber. BJERG was and is still a player that will have traffic and thorin understands that. Skip shits on lebron more than Dillion and Grayson Allen in the NBA for a reason.
I wasn't sure how the reaction would be, since he was getting a lot of flak for the retirement team of 100T. Understandably so, he wasn't performing anywhere near his older days. Still, though, I'm glad he's getting all the props as he goes, cause man was a menace in his time that dominated the league.
So many of the newer viewers never saw how good he was from 2014-2017. Thanks for attesting to the fact that in his prime bjerg was definitely a world class mid.
me :( i was 9 in 2017
Me! I came in to LoL around 2018. I never understood the hype around him or TSM.
@@Tartersauce101 He was just a humiliating choker that played for drooling ass TSM.
He was only "good" when no one knew how to play the game.
@@nosuitsgiven and he still achieved more than you ever will
As an old head I still remember when Dom and Bjerg used to duo way back in the day. Thanks for making my childhood both of you
Why you gotta do Dom like that? Confirmed, Dom ultra boomer!
At my darkest times, both Dom and Bjergsen were essential to me. I get ya man
bruh dont refer to us as old heads i was watching pro in season 2 and im only 24 🤣
Lmao... calling yourself an old head when you watched Bjerg in your "childhood". Bro you've got a long way to go from here.
Damn, that was brave of him to talk about his suicidal thoughts. Props to the guy, it is a really difficult choice to step back from everything like that. I hope for the best for him!
Bjerg was always my goat. There was a time where I had blind loyalty that maybe NA could do something at worlds after watching the lcs both spring and summer. It was back in 2017. I was so hyped to see Bjerg and DL get another shot internationally because I just knew they would get farther this time. I’ll always look back fondly at the memories of his time playing, he gave me hope and pride to love NA.
Bjergsen was literally the reason why I started to watch pro-player. I really wanted Bjergsen somehow magically win worlds back in the days.
7:19 What a shot. The two legends of LCS back in the day just sharing some grub.
Bjergsen inspired me and so many others to get invested into this game way back in 2012/2013. His attention to detail in the game was unheard of at the time and the fact that people still disrespect him because of international results is crazy to me.
The only time I've been more upset in my life was when my favorite jg IWD retired 😢
I would never call myself a die hard bjergsen fan; but he's always been entertaining to watch and Ive always respected his skill, candor and his professionalism both in game and out. Doing something for 12+ years is a long time to be stuck in one position. Winning or losing, you're fundamentally spending 10+ hours a day in a chair staring at a screen, off time thinking about what youre doing while sitting in that chair staring at that screen, feeling pressure for how well you click your mouse and press your buttons while sitting in the chair staring at the screen, taking heat when you dont play well, maintaining professionalism and crafting your skill outside of the game, all the while having to neglect personal care and time with others. It always shocks me when league pros get married; as they fundamentally just dont have much time to even BE in a relationship. Bjergsen's always lauded by his peers and his opponents alike; truly an inspirational person, not just a good league of legends player.
Bjergsen touched grass 1 time and gave up his entire career, man this stuff must be gooooood
Huge resect for Bjerg. Always hated when C9 had to play against TSM becuase i knew he was so good and the game was gonna be a hard win, but just proves how top tier he was. I would love a long form video at some point where Dom could sit down with other long time players from his time and just listen to conversation about the things we, as fans, never get to hear.
I remember when TheOddOne opened up the door for him in the announcement video. Who fucking knew that 16 year old would become our Michael Fucking Jordan.
Bjergsen single handedly brought up NA mid levels. even though he tried, the culture bourght everyone else down. Despite that, Bjerg tried his best to biring up this region.
He worked hard and didnt' get the reward that matches up his effort imo.
But it looks like he is content with his journey and is happy with it. He still made bag, even though i feel like he should've gotten 2-3x more, and is happy stepping away. I hope he has a great rest of his life away from SMS like he had been and he intends to.
I'm just reading some comments and I see some people mention he wasn't an alpha midlaner in the LCS, it might be hard to imagine watching his play the last few years, but his debut season he could pick anything he wanted, zed, leblanc, fizz, and dominate EVERY midlaner in the LCS, Bjergsen not getting a solokill in the laning phase was actually rare.
They were not calling him NA faker just for nothing, it actually felt like watching fakers dominance in the NA region when watching him play back in the day (obviously not the same level in leagues but still)
I’m pretty sure he solo killed pretty much every mid laner in the league that season it was wild. People that try and say “people didn’t know how to play the game then” just isn’t true. The game was just way different. League has changed so much since the early years. Thats kind of what has kept the game alive for so long as well. Anyone who doesn’t respect Bjergsen is just a hater.
It's so crazy what Soren has done to the esports scene it's not just people from the LCS or league of legends who are showing their respects for him it's the people who are twitch streamers, and literally any known pro from other games like Apex, Valorant, Fortnite, CS:GO literally it's so nice to see.
All the weirdos on reddit and twitter were saying "good riddance about time. he's washed, never won worlds". Like you know those people are just delusional and unhappy.
It's funny that a guy who should have been and LEC legend is the NA LCS GOAT. I've been a Bjerg fan since he came to NA, and he's who gave me hope for the region. His second season here I just knew he was different and he would be what lead North America to a world championship. Long live The Bjerger King
Good thing Bjergsen didn’t waste away on Copenhagen Wolves/NiP orgs. NA overall couldn’t compete, but this guy was a world class mid for years, and was given visibility.
I watched it and now watching it again with Dom. First watch I was like damn, but why watching it with Dom I feel tears welling up?
I remember when he just got picked up from NA. This guy was really the GOAT of NA and a pillar to the region. Sad to say, Soren is very wiser much older know, I think that goes for so many players too. Yea, pro gamer is fine, but I think Soren came to realize that life has more purposeful meaning when you come to realize been doing something for so long and interest have become different now.
truly an iconic player in the league scene, from west to east he is respected by peers and rivals. My goat and the first player I truly followed since the beginning
Alot of people forget that he actually won allstars in 2015 1v1 and came to the finals in 2017 1v1 beating faker etc loosing 1 of the finals to uzi. the only one winning more than him is UZI. Which he lost to in the final due to a completely broken kalista at that time. Had he been invited as many times as UZI fx. in 2016 he might have been the goat in allstar 1v1. But he ended top 2 all time in that event in the 1v1s.
Nothing he really could do there. But at a time subtracting the team I would argue he was the best player in the world. around 15-17 ish. At least on par with faker and the other top mids.
People love to call Dom a hater, but this video shows he really is just passionate about the game. Bjergsen is a guy that has always tried insanely hard to be the best, and Dom recognizes and respects that. Everyone that truly cares about the game knows that Bjerg is the goat of NA.
Ironic how league is saving lives when people literally type k ys in chat 24/7 😂but in all seriousness glad bjerg still breathing and respect to the man!
im glad you give him his props, you are another one that tell it like it is!
If the enjoyment fades, it's time to call it quits.
One of the greatest. He helped forge the way and was a titan of the mid lane!
Bjerg is a nalcs legend ,absolute joy to watch,could he have done better ?perhaps ,but he is still a legend,
I wish he would have just joined a korean or chinese team. They take it so much seriously over there and he might have been able to get at least one world championship in his career. A decent portion of American players are just lazy. Like they'll have raw talent, intuition, etc, but won't put the work in to be consistent like Bjergsen is. And on top of that, his reputation as the best player in NA, made his teams rely on him too much.
Farewell my GOAT. 🫡
Crazy how League, the game that makes most of us want to kill someone or ourselves, saved both Bjerg and LS lives
Love him or hate him, you can’t deny his influence on NALCS and on League as a whole. He might not have won a world title but you can’t deny the raw skil and potential that Bjergsen had.
Indeed
He did say when he transitioned to coach that he retired from professional play, but not the entire e-sports.
I. Just wish bjerg would of made it further when it came to worlds I would always feel so bad for him whenever he would fall short every single year
I hope he goes on to do great things.
League has been kind of on a slow bleed out since 2017 with its major height in 2014, but it has definitely outlived the 2-4 year cycle we saw with Warcraft and Starcraft etc
I still remember the Copenhagen Wolves/Ninjas in Pyjamas days. Where Bjerg was busting out the Zed and the Zilean. :(
TSM gone, bjerg gone. Only 2 things i watched in lcs. If DL leaves its ggwp no moar lcs
Everything dies
It's wild for me I still remember how NA lcs had so many vieuwers and I was a jalouse EU fan. Now I don't care about the scene anymore things change fast.
Doublift is trash, man. All bark, no bite.
Wow the end of an era.
don't you go getting ideas dom. we're stuck with you right?
Bjergsen is actually a legitimately exceptional person. If he believes in himself, he will continue to achieve great things outside of league as well.
The fact that literally EVERYONE (besides the negative gremlin Thorin) has nothing but POSITIVES to say about Bjergsen the person / player says everything you need to know
Thorin is pretty fair to bjergsen, he always gave him props for being a great player, arguably the greatest ever, domestically in the LCS. His criticisms of bjergsen's limitations internationally, role in the TSM organization's specific limitations, and then finally his drop off in performance in the last few years have also been quite fair.
He wasn't overrated in his prime, he was the best mid laner in the west. But after his prime, recent 4-5 years, people overrated him, his mechanics could never bring him the advantage, just like the older pro, he was trying to be a team player, but could never catch up to that playstyle right. Also his career being in NA hugely restrict his talent, just like the other young talent in NA. It really suck to see those talents fall in NA.
man been watching him since i was like 13 feels so weird. will always be the goat
IM NOT CRYING. YOURE CRYING
Bring me back to 2016-17 :(
yeah, it might have been a distant dream, but 2016 i truly believed TSM had a real chance of making far in world run.
counter strike is a good example of a game that lasted long in the esports
Who's cutting onions?
league saved his life, and my god did he pay it back, he is probably the player who has done the most for the health and growth of the game aside from Faker and maybe Uzi
I still remember you and bjerg playing ezreal smite mid
My GOAT.
Why cant he go to LEC?
Bjergsen is what any NA player should be to try to win worlds
Bjergsen is a legend ❤
Too bad all the effort was wasted on such an org, it would be nice to see how would timeline look like with him in TL, 100t, c9 for a decade
TL and 100t haven't been around a decade. And TSM regularly beat c9 to win the NA championship. He's probably the most decorated NA player in the history of the game, and 90% of it was with TSM.
TL and C9 wouldn't be around if it wasn't for TSM.
Only fitting the LCS goat be an import
Doublelift a Chinese import too.
@@ethosterros9430 pretty sure he was born and raised in Mission Viejo Cali
@@wirelessg18 yea but hes first gen. I am too you're basically an immigrant who speaks the native language.
@@ethosterros9430 I think you misunderstand what an import means
@@ethosterros9430 Thats not even remotely close lmao. My mother is okinawan; I am american... full stop lmao. I am not tangentially related to anything to "immigrant status" and spoilers : neither are you. Just because your family has strong heritage does not fundamentally change yours lmao
Well, he seems to have a nicr house, probably made enough noney to live and provide all he needs and maybe even start a business.
He is looks like a really good person too, so yes good for him to step away from this game, Life have mroe for him than that.
Tsm legacy is truly dead now that bjerg is retired
Hey wassup
In his prime he was easily top 5 internationally. Good night sweet prince.
With all due respect, that would have been 2014. When Korea was so good, that Faker and Rookie didn't even make it to Worlds. That was also the time, where Froggen and xPeke were still relevant. Maple was already doing Maple things. China was competing with the LCK without all those imports, having 2 teams in the Top 4 at Worlds.
With all due respect: You will find 5 better midlaner in that year.
And since then, he failed to get out of Groups 4 times at Worlds and twice at MSI. Meaning the Westdoors and Febivens had more international success.
You don't need to make insane claims, just to honor a retired legend. There are enough good things to say, without exaggerating.
Not even close ever.
He was, but many people don't understand. He was a menace in lane, and pros back then were terrified by him. Sure, he wasn't as good as asians mid laners in tf and roaming, but (excluding Faker, Rookie and Pawn) he was the best laner. He ruined his career playing in NA, in a team far inferior that him. The amount of people he soloed early in his career is off the charts.
Nope, not even close. Look, you leave NA player in NA, don't ever bring them to international competition. You could say he is NA GOAT or whatever, it's all good, but when u bring your NA GOAT to Worlds. They are at the very bottom tier, just slightly better than those wild cards team.
It’s ok ur bronze brain cant actually understand how good he is.
EU player is the goat of NA. Says enough
funny to me u call someone ur regions goat when he isnt even from the place XD but yea hes the goat
Wait, he already retired again??
He transitioned to coaching for a split or two but he never considered it a real retirement. This is the first time that he's really done.
Dom is so bad at league
all the contracts are dropping so he dips
How sad is it for your region that your goat isn't even from NA
😅😅😅
Oh well, the west will never win with imports anyway. EU or NA.
Should have played in EU. Waste of talent for him to play for NA.
Cringe "farewell video". Also why do people call this dude "Dom" like some gay fast and furious shit, his name is Christian lmao
Are you 12
@@hehhehheh666 dude definitely laughs at his own jokes "lmao"
Sorry but doublelift is the goat but number 2 isn't bad.
most overblown player ever
Jensen > Bjerg
He’s overrated
jesus fuck
but there were many times when he was undeniably the best mid in NA the whole season
He was the best Western player for years until Caps came into his own
@@onetakehoovie5955 That was a figment of NA's imagination. The way worlds was structured, NA and LEC never really got the chance to play one another.
Bjergsen in a tough position, his fans overrate him and his haters underrate him in similar ways. He was the best laner in the west and always top 3 midlaner in the west (season 4 to season 8). His problem was that he wasn't as good as Koreans in team fights and roaming, and impacting the game with low resources, but If you give him kills (gold) he snowball out of control. Another problem is that Caps outshine him in every way when he arrive in the pro scene.
He was the symbol and physical representation of the league. Without him we never could have been the saddest, most underachieving, pathetic excuse for an esports league. Our GOAT was a femboy Zilean main from Europe....let that sink in.
???
Negative ape
Miserable soul
@@lavery87 some1 ate too many paint chips growing up lmfao
He really did manage to set himself free from league 🥲