PODCAST How to Make Money w Commercial Pilot
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2023
- Dan @TakingOffDan and Christy @PilotChristy talk to Seth @CommercialPilotinCommand who is a Commercial Pilot in Florida and makes his living from his certificate. From ag flying to banner towing, there are a lot of jobs for pilots in which to make a living these days without necessarily going to the airlines.
Seth's Channel: / @commercialpic
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Thanks for having me on the podcast! I really enjoyed the episode! 😎
I love you guys did this episode, totally agree with the “shortage” of captains and not a shortage of low hour pilots. I laughed when you guys said the commercial is basically useless 😂. I’m at 300 with a CPL and literally felt this video too well. Thanks y’all l.
Another excellent podcast, Dan and Christy. As usual, a lot of great information to help people along their pilot journey. Keep up the excellent work. Safe skies my friends 🇺🇸🛩️
The podcast is coming into its own- nicely done!
The government can call it what they want, but it’s a license. A license by definition is where an authority requires that you have their permission from them to do some thing. Just see what happens if you fly a plane without a license and what the government will do to you. Therefore, it is a license, regardless of what they feel like calling it. A certificate is simply stating that you have some qualification so yes, in this particular case, you can call it a certificate as well, but as soon as the government takes away your ability to do some thing, unless you have their authority, it then becomes a license.
26:40 min mark, THat is correct, United and all other airlines do not pay for training, Infact they ask that you can PROVE that you can afford the flight schools to get your certs....... THey do have a loan program to provide funding for the schools but you have to pay it all back.
Correct
Much has changed since I started my certificate.
Hello Dan and Christie, I'd like to express my gratitude for creating this podcast episode. My name is Keileen Hubbard, and you might recognize me with the "Super Airplane Master" tag. I appreciate your discussion on the topic of earning money with a commercial pilot certificate. While I do hold a commercial pilot certificate, I've found another avenue for building flight time and valuable connections.
I've been volunteering as an auxiliary Air Force pilot for the Civil Air Patrol (CAP). CAP serves as the official auxiliary of the United States Air Force. In my role I am transport pilot, orientation pilot for cadets and hold various certifications, which allows me to fly their manned and unmanned aircraft.
Although this path doesn't directly translate into making money, it provides an opportunity to build meaningful connections and gain flying experience. In my nearly 2.5 years with CAP, I've accumulated about 75.1 hours, contributing to my broader aviation goals. I've met CAP pilots who, with additional ratings, have been able to fly nearly 200 hours a year, making it a valuable avenue for time building and connections.
My ultimate goal is to join the Air Force, and being part of CAP enhances my competitiveness in that pursuit. Thank you for creating this video, and I look forward to your future content. Have a great night!
Thanks Keileen! Glad the CAP has been good for you!
FAR 119.1 tells you everything you can do with the Commercial rating.
Question: With a commercial cert, can you offer to fly your buddy somewhere if he'll pay for the gas? I.E. Can you split expenses unevenly and go on a flight "you weren't already planning on taking" in order to get more hours?
Give your buddy a camera and say he’s a photographer
280 hours with a instrument commercial. Like a bachelor’s degree, it means nothing.
Pretty much
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QUESTION: all of these seem to be gigs were you're working for somebody else. I don't hear anybody talking about entrepreneurial opportunities to do your own thing. Does a "Commercial" rating mean "I can earn money doing my own thing"? Or just, "I can only earn money working for someone else"? From all I've been able to gather as a newbie, it seems odd to me that with the explosion of "gig jobs" where you bring your own car, supplies, pretty much whatever is needed, that there seems to be no role for that in aviation.
I use my CPL for my own stuff- aerial video and photography for my own clients.
@@TakingOff do you actually need a CPL to rig cameras to the plane and then charge for the results? Or is a PPL sufficient? I mean ... look how many people post videos here on YT of themselves throughout their training, even before they have their full PPL cert, and they earn money from these videos from YT, right?
Is a PPL cert sufficient to get paid to fly aircraft that do aerial surveys using photographic and other equipment? Or does this require a CPL?
What about if there's a person aboard who's using the equipment?
There seems to be this issue with "who owns the plane?" that nobody wants to discuss. A CPL lets you fly a plane owned by an outfit that takes up skydivers. But what if YOU own the plane? This is more like rideshare -- can you rent your plane and yourself out to the skydiving school the way you rent yourself and your car out to Uber / Lyft? What are the applicable issues? (Rideshare was a mess until measures were put in place requiring the rideshare companies to provide blanket liability policies when a driver was responding to a call and then had riders in the car. Are there similar differences with aircraft insurance?)
It's like you said in the video, most people think that a CPL means you can fly for a big airline, but that's incorrect.
If you scratch just below the surface, in MY mind, I (perhaps naively) think, "a CPL means I can charge people to let me fly them around in MY plane" (assuming I owned one), but all I hear is, "uuuhhhh ... weeeeeellll .... nooooo .... not really." Or what about if it's a RENTED plane?
There does seem to be an exception for non-stop flights w/in a 25-mile radius of a single airport, and those cases usually employ helicopters.
You explained about the airlines misconception, but I've not had any luck in finding anybody discuss the latter viewpoints and what THEY require or imply. I'd love it if you could shed some light on this angle. It seems nobody talks about this. Just, "go to work as a pilot for a company that handles all of this other stuff".
There’s some FSDO precedence establishing UA-camrs making money from the Channel not the flight. You need a CPL to fly a commercial mission, it’s not about the plane at this level- it’s about the mission. And being compensated for taking people or cargo is a whole nuther thing with bunch of different rules.
@@TakingOff That's what I'd like to hear more about ... all of the different rules and how to make sense of them. When you say, "it's about the mission" it seems to imply you can't take photos or video that might someday be sold -- or does it mean that if you didn't specifically plan with that intent, then you can't ever sell them? It seems like a bit of a minefield.
Entrepreneurialism is often about making do with what you've got, as well as being somewhat of an opportunist. How does that interact with flying? The simplest case is, "person A has a plane, person B wants to fly somewhere or just do something in the air and is willing to pay" ... is a 100-page FAQ needed to break down every possible scenario? Or is most of it covered in the CPL training? Sorry if this seems silly, but I'm just getting familiar with things needed for my PPL. All roads seem to lead to becoming a major airline pilot. My age says I'm too old for that, but my mind is tossing around other ideas. :)
@@TheSchwartzIsWithYouTodaywe do cover some of that in a different video with an aviation attorney. I’ll try and find the link.
You cant fly IFR cargo until 1200 hour, so it is not a low time job Seth.
I was sitting right seat (SIC) flying instrument cargo at 750 hours.
I was talking about single pilot operations@@CommercialPIC
I really don't get the sense that this guy has a grasp on the actual rules or what jobs actually exist. Christy had to set him straight multiple times.