I used to wait for my dad to get home from work to do the level select cheat (couldn't manage it myself) and I'd ALWAYS select this level to hear the music.
I think this track (and this version) is what ignited in me the sense of musical composition. I was shocked when I played this game on the Playstation collection, the music was the "speed shoe box" version all time long
Here in Australia just like Europe and UK we get an extra 9 seconds of this beautiful music track than the North American version. Star Light Zone (Europe Version) = 0:51 full loop Star Light Zone (USA / Japanese) version = 0:42 full loop And they say we got the inferior version? The longer the music loop plays the better, it provides less repetitiveness and less elevator effect. (My opinion)
@@Oysterblade84 it's fine to be nostalgic for it but, you did actually get the inferior version, the extra length comes from the fact your game plays in 50HZ, and 50HZ is actually pretty bad for a game like sonic where you need to run fast
Just to let everyone know, the gameplay in our PAL version isn't THAT slow as you would think compared to the original versions. The music is more slower, but the Gameplay is only a little bit slower that it doesn't make much of a difference! =) They fixed everything in later PAL releases of Sonic 2, 3 & Knuckles (aswell as 3D & Spinball). =D
I searched this today and after over 20 yrs since I owned this, I never knew here in EU we're the only ones to have the correct speed. The standard version sounds wrong.
Me watching the Olympic athletes come out: Me: What's that music? I recognise it? **Listens** Me: Is....is that..is that Star Light Zone? **Listens** Me: It is! It's Star Light Zone! What the hell?
This is the song that bothers me most in the faster American version. The whole mood of it, to me, depends on it being at a leisurely pace such as it is here, but of course it's a matter of taste. Thanks for uploading.
is it just me? or does it sound better slower? huh, i guess sega must have the music fast because of its blast processing and whatnot, anyways, sounds way better
I'm an Electronic music junky and i find this shit just toootally fucking awesome, :P. This is SOO totally chill, oh my God, dude. I'm from the U.S and i find THIS version way more bad-ass than the faster American/Japanese version. Screw those, lol. Cheers!
I've seen loads of comments about the slower music in the EU versions of this game and many others, particularly older games. It's fairly obvious why, since 60 Hz = 60 frames per second, but 50 Hz = 50 frames per second. Back when these games were made, I suppose developers didn't really consider these differences and so didn't scale the music. Now, I live in the UK, and have the original Sonic 1 game. I've never heard any of the games' music this slow; I guess I grew playing the 'US version'.
I will have to get my mega drive down from the loft and check. I'm from UK originally and still live here :p. Very open to being wrong, but the one that sways me is Scrap Brain Zone...I'm fairly sure I've never heard it that slow before, but I;d have to check it really.
It had to something to do with the cpu performance in the different locations. US and Japan are part of the NTSC system and ran at 60htz. While most of Europe is part of the PAL system which ran at 50htz, so their Mega Drive ran at a slightly slower pace.
@MonoKrome44 because up until the dreamcast pal consoles ran at 50 htz as opposed to 60htz for ntsc so everything including audio is slower. thats also why u used to have the black boarders on the screen where as ntsc ran fullscreen
@TheJeli125 wow your are correct. I've found out that the US the Europe versions are the same cartridge. the game play is also slower. Well I did the test in and emulator that had the option for USA Japan and Europe. Of course using the appropriate versions of the game for the region. thanks
@FMYM2612 I agree. I have a few games that can be played in NTSC and the other day I thought I'd try it. It was awful. The colours were OK, but the picture was way too blurry on one of the games I tried and the other game I tried played at a slightly faster speed. I'm glad I have PAL television.
@outlier1985 PAL televisions ran at 50i (25 frames per second) and NTSC at 60i (29.97 frames per second) (At the time, nowadays things have changed a little) The games ran at differant speeds to compensate for the lower frame rate of the PAL televisions and the higher one of NTSC televisions
@alfonsonishikawa American version is up, down, left, right, up, down, left, right, up, down, left, right, A+Start. Funny they would have different codes for different regions.
[Continued x2] Nowadays I guess they just scale it automatically for 50 Hz [well, maybe not brand new titles, since pretty much all new TVs support 60 Hz in HD etc]. To me, they just all seem mega slow. They sound a bit more relaxing but it's relative I guess. The only one which I think is truly better slower, is Star Light Zone [this one].
[Continued] I've no idea why other people in EU have the slowed down version. I had a sega mega drive 2 [if there was any difference between a mega drive 1? I don't know anything about its hardware really]. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan is NTSC 60 Hz like the US, so the 'faster' versions are actually the 'proper' versions. This is all a bit odd, since I played all the old sonic games on a crappy little tiny TV which was most definitely NOT 60 Hz, but I played the 'faster' version.
@MrBurgundy76 the PAL green hill zone sounds really relaxing and calm, the american/japanese version doesn't have the same sound to it. btw, the version on youtube isn't exactly like what you hear in game, it's a bit off.
because NTSC is 60fps and PAL 50fps, so the games in europe were slower (and so the music), except a few exceptions like dragon's lair on NES or Super Mario Bros on NES who were actually faster. go see the european mario bros speed, that's insane.
tv's in europe run at 50hz vs the 60hz here in the us. The song should be the same. The person who made these videos may have not taken this fact in to account accidently slowing the song down.
I sounded like a dickhead in the previous comment sorry about that >_< I love this song its much better slowed down, this is one of the songs I just love to relax to.
@MithosCoA This is the ''proper'' version buddy, the other one is on acid and drugs. You do realise that alot of SEGA and Nintendo games back in the day were made in Europe? That means that they were intended for PAL 50Hz and were not converted properly for NTSC 60Hz. Playing a PAL 50Hz game in NTSC 60Hz results in acid-tripping music. I know this one was made in Japan for NTSC 60Hz but alot others that were made by SEGA of Europe were meant for PAL 50Hz, so you see it swings both ways.
@LegitimatelyBaked no, micheal jackson was going to do music for Sonic 3, but a few 'incidents' happened round about that time, so he couldn't do it all.
@johnjnukemsheridan I've never owned a multi region DVD player or bought any foreign DVD's I'm sure the answers out there but I don't have it! I have heard anecdotally of this happening but I don't know enough to say for sure.
![Sonic 1 Music: Star Light Zone [extended]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RVAzxhh_cB8/mqdefault.jpg)
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I prefer this version of Star Light Zone. Again, more relaxing and atmospheric, which fits the feeling you get when you finish Labyrinth Zone.
Yea true
Totally agree 👍
I used to wait for my dad to get home from work to do the level select cheat (couldn't manage it myself) and I'd ALWAYS select this level to hear the music.
up down left right
ghoststomper A and Start
American Version - Nice, glittering space zone. Gotta press on to beat Robotnik.
Europe Version - Very dreamy. No rush. Almost hypnotic...
Please continue to hold. Your call is important to us.
I WOULD CALL IT DAILY
Thank you for calling Genesis airlines. Your call is important to us. Please hold,and thank you.
In Europe, we put you on hold for 20% longer :D
Mega Drive airlines, this is Europe
Hijo de la luna
And then you wait the time as 10 Sonic Acts (100 mins/1hr and 4 mins)
I think this track (and this version) is what ignited in me the sense of musical composition.
I was shocked when I played this game on the Playstation collection, the music was the "speed shoe box" version all time long
Here in Australia just like Europe and UK we get an extra 9 seconds of this beautiful music track than the North American version.
Star Light Zone (Europe Version) = 0:51 full loop
Star Light Zone (USA / Japanese) version = 0:42 full loop
And they say we got the inferior version? The longer the music loop plays the better, it provides less repetitiveness and less elevator effect. (My opinion)
As a UK player, I feel ANNOYED when Americans call this bad
You did get the inferior version lol. The extra length doesn't compensate for how garbage it plays.
@@pentexsucks43 I regret nothing from owning the PAL version back in the day and even now, so your comment is just water on a duck's back to me.
@@Oysterblade84 it's fine to be nostalgic for it but, you did actually get the inferior version, the extra length comes from the fact your game plays in 50HZ, and 50HZ is actually pretty bad for a game like sonic where you need to run fast
Just to let everyone know, the gameplay in our PAL version isn't THAT slow as you would think compared to the original versions. The music is more slower, but the Gameplay is only a little bit slower that it doesn't make much of a difference! =)
They fixed everything in later PAL releases of Sonic 2, 3 & Knuckles (aswell as 3D & Spinball). =D
Yippee
It's been 13 years.. ik he died of death 😢
Siento nostalgia. Anhelo esa infancia en donde jugaba en la tv de 21" al Sonic con el joystick de sega en la mano.
really fits the stage design to
Put this song on 0.5x speed. (I hope UA-cam keeps that feature) 1.25x speed is the US version.
u can also try putting da speed to 1.5, meaning that it is the super sonic shoes version
10 years later they expanded the feature :D
Wow 10 years already....
this was the best music of the whole game but i used to have trouble getting this far in the game just to hear it hehe
I actually kind of like this version. The slower pace fits the track and stage.
Star Light Zone Chilled Mix.😆
Back in the days before the internet and you found out the level select cheat code on the playground.
This doesn't make me wanna go fast. This makes me wanna take a nap.
This is how I remember starlight, wasn't until my first emulator that I realised I was playing an inferior version but the music still bops in 50Hz
Increible como se oye una Mega Drive!!
This sounds better slower in my opinion
I always loved listening to this in the UK version its more relaxing.
My favorite song of all the sonic songs. Nostalgia makes me cry.
Best Olympics opening ceremony EVER! ,🥲🥲
this song has a nice beat when its slower
Used to press A,up,A,down,A,left,A,right,A+B+C+start only to load this zone and hear the music. My favourite zone to play too...
Wow i didnt think 10Hz could make a diffrence! i like this better but i like both versions too
This sounds loads better than the NTSC version. I wish there was the option to have the music like this on the Mega Collection for PS3.
this is my fave music from sonic the hedgehog, i love it
the song reminds me of "Girl Don't make me wait".check out the Timebox versions chorus and see for yourself
I searched this today and after over 20 yrs since I owned this, I never knew here in EU we're the only ones to have the correct speed. The standard version sounds wrong.
Me watching the Olympic athletes come out:
Me: What's that music? I recognise it?
**Listens**
Me: Is....is that..is that Star Light Zone?
**Listens**
Me: It is! It's Star Light Zone! What the hell?
It goes from being some indeterminate not-pop song to being a disco tune.
I dont get it but it works well. :D
This is the song that bothers me most in the faster American version. The whole mood of it, to me, depends on it being at a leisurely pace such as it is here, but of course it's a matter of taste. Thanks for uploading.
My favorite zone.
I'll add it to the list.
GOTTA GO SSSSLLLLOOOOoooowwwww.....
Smooooooooooooottttttthhhhhhhh.........
is it just me? or does it sound better slower? huh, i guess sega must have the music fast because of its blast processing and whatnot, anyways, sounds way better
I'm an Electronic music junky and i find this shit just toootally fucking awesome, :P. This is SOO totally chill, oh my God, dude. I'm from the U.S and i find THIS version way more bad-ass than the faster American/Japanese version. Screw those, lol. Cheers!
This is the only Europe song from Sonic 1 is my favorite.
For me the NTSC music is better to play to but the PAL is better to just sit back and listen to. LOVE IT.
The music is slower becuase the actual game runs altogether slower, it runs in PAL. I know, I live in Europe and have this game for the Mega Drive.
I've seen loads of comments about the slower music in the EU versions of this game and many others, particularly older games. It's fairly obvious why, since 60 Hz = 60 frames per second, but 50 Hz = 50 frames per second. Back when these games were made, I suppose developers didn't really consider these differences and so didn't scale the music.
Now, I live in the UK, and have the original Sonic 1 game. I've never heard any of the games' music this slow; I guess I grew playing the 'US version'.
This is the speed I remember, this sounds a little somber compared to the NTSC version.
I will have to get my mega drive down from the loft and check. I'm from UK originally and still live here :p. Very open to being wrong, but the one that sways me is Scrap Brain Zone...I'm fairly sure I've never heard it that slow before, but I;d have to check it really.
It had to something to do with the cpu performance in the different locations. US and Japan are part of the NTSC system and ran at 60htz. While most of Europe is part of the PAL system which ran at 50htz, so their Mega Drive ran at a slightly slower pace.
Should be 16.666666666% slower than the US version :P
date night in my powder puff dress
this is what happens when sonic hits a marijuana computer screen.
we were running on 50htz
This sounds better in 50hz. It's a nighttime city level with stars, so slow music fits it perfectly.
Now you know why the PAL version music sounds better, you can hate the other songs but nothing can top this.
as a kid i was play slowed down version of sonic its hurts
My favourite Level In this Game it's So much Beautiful and Relaxing 😏❤
i have just taken from my old sega. im so looking forward to play it again
If you put it in 1.25x speed it sounds like the original
It may be 20% slower, but it's also 20% cooler.
@MonoKrome44 because up until the dreamcast pal consoles ran at 50 htz as opposed to 60htz for ntsc so everything including audio is slower. thats also why u used to have the black boarders on the screen where as ntsc ran fullscreen
@TheJeli125 wow your are correct. I've found out that the US the Europe versions are the same cartridge. the game play is also slower. Well I did the test in and emulator that had the option for USA Japan and Europe. Of course using the appropriate versions of the game for the region. thanks
@FMYM2612 I agree. I have a few games that can be played in NTSC and the other day I thought I'd try it. It was awful. The colours were OK, but the picture was way too blurry on one of the games I tried and the other game I tried played at a slightly faster speed. I'm glad I have PAL television.
@outlier1985 PAL televisions ran at 50i (25 frames per second) and NTSC at 60i (29.97 frames per second) (At the time, nowadays things have changed a little)
The games ran at differant speeds to compensate for the lower frame rate of the PAL televisions and the higher one of NTSC televisions
Sunset zone act 1
@SuperFlameRing It was something about Pal genesis' or mega drives, being somehow slowly emulated than the American version.
listen to ths with good headphones and hear that gorgeous bass beat! :-D old sonic games always seem 2 have a damn gd bassline
i like the European version it's beautiful
@merkur32123 And is the game speed similar between Europe and US version, regardless of music ?
Thanks for answering ! ;)
oh that explains why the music is slow when i play this on my mega drive
im from scotland and dont remember it being this slow, im not gonna get my megadrive out just to see
@EuroMIX2 Haha, fair enough.
@alfonsonishikawa American version is up, down, left, right, up, down, left, right, up, down, left, right, A+Start. Funny they would have different codes for different regions.
@robokill387 The American version isn't a bit too fast, yours is a bit too slow :P
@sonicKAI Please extend this on the european version? Or already have one?
Even the loading for the videos are slower haha
[Continued x2] Nowadays I guess they just scale it automatically for 50 Hz [well, maybe not brand new titles, since pretty much all new TVs support 60 Hz in HD etc]. To me, they just all seem mega slow. They sound a bit more relaxing but it's relative I guess. The only one which I think is truly better slower, is Star Light Zone [this one].
The developers neglected the fact that Europe used 50hz rather than 60hz so the timing was about a sixth slower.
[Continued] I've no idea why other people in EU have the slowed down version. I had a sega mega drive 2 [if there was any difference between a mega drive 1? I don't know anything about its hardware really]. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan is NTSC 60 Hz like the US, so the 'faster' versions are actually the 'proper' versions. This is all a bit odd, since I played all the old sonic games on a crappy little tiny TV which was most definitely NOT 60 Hz, but I played the 'faster' version.
i like both versions of star light zone
1.25 for normal speed
@KHsonicdude23 are you kidding? green hill sounds AMAZING in the european version. the american version is a bit too FAST.
aww i loved this level... hard though
@MrBurgundy76 the PAL green hill zone sounds really relaxing and calm, the american/japanese version doesn't have the same sound to it. btw, the version on youtube isn't exactly like what you hear in game, it's a bit off.
although i grew up with & prefer the pal version, forget the pal vs ntsc argument for just a moment........listen to that groovy BASSLINE!
the european version only have the music slow, the game runs at normal speed, i like the 2 music version, pal and ntsc
Why is NTSC faster & PAL slower?
because NTSC is 60fps and PAL 50fps, so the games in europe were slower (and so the music), except a few exceptions like dragon's lair on NES or Super Mario Bros on NES who were actually faster.
go see the european mario bros speed, that's insane.
SC13 I'm.. don't..... Ah, fuck, PINGAS!!!!
@Nik that some games are faster ? they are coded like that, they are still at 50fps though.
@skwisgaarOWNS No, it's slower because European televisions had a slower framerate, so as a result the consoles were slower to compensate
tv's in europe run at 50hz vs the 60hz here in the us. The song should be the same. The person who made these videos may have not taken this fact in to account accidently slowing the song down.
I sounded like a dickhead in the previous comment sorry about that >_<
I love this song its much better slowed down, this is one of the songs I just love to relax to.
@MithosCoA This is the ''proper'' version buddy, the other one is on acid and drugs.
You do realise that alot of SEGA and Nintendo games back in the day were made in Europe? That means that they were intended for PAL 50Hz and were not converted properly for NTSC 60Hz. Playing a PAL 50Hz game in NTSC 60Hz results in acid-tripping music. I know this one was made in Japan for NTSC 60Hz but alot others that were made by SEGA of Europe were meant for PAL 50Hz, so you see it swings both ways.
@LegitimatelyBaked no, micheal jackson was going to do music for Sonic 3, but a few 'incidents' happened round about that time, so he couldn't do it all.
I had the europe version and the music was slower, but the music wasn't quite this slow.
Sounds like disco in 50hz
it was faster....if i remember...lol...this is classic doe...sonic pinball also was a hitter
Its because this is the Europe version
@RiiidgeRaacer So? Was it that slow?
@merkur32123 So why speed in Sonic 2 Europe is the same as the American ??
@EuroMIX2 looks like we gots a hedgehog brony. Seems legit
@Tuchiee and whats so bad about modern sonic, i jst gotta know
MAaby thats why the GenMobile sounds different.
@johnjnukemsheridan I've never owned a multi region DVD player or bought any foreign DVD's I'm sure the answers out there but I don't have it! I have heard anecdotally of this happening but I don't know enough to say for sure.
@robokill387 FALSE
theres no negative comments about green hill zone in this dojo.
Did anyone ever think this sounds strikingly similar to Sleeping Satellite by Tasmin Archer???? I always did as a kid!!!!
I favour the US version, yet I'm from the UK. (My Sonic Classics for DS are based on the US versions)
is there any explaination of why europes music is much slower