Why Protestant Doctrine Is Unbiblical
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Tim Staples highlights several key passages in Scripture which directly refute the Protestant doctrine of salvation by faith alone and show that Jesus established the Catholic Church as the true authority of His Word.
Tim Staples is Director of Apologetics and Evangelization here at Catholic Answers, but he was not always Catholic. Tim was raised a Southern Baptist. Although he fell away from the faith of his childhood, Tim came back to faith in Christ during his late teen years through the witness of Christian televangelists. Soon after, Tim joined the Marine Corps.
During his four-year tour, he became involved in ministry with various Assemblies of God communities. Immediately after his tour of duty, Tim enrolled in Jimmy Swaggart Bible College and became a youth minister in an Assembly of God community. During his final year in the Marines, however, Tim met a Marine who really knew his faith and challenged Tim to study Catholicism from Catholic and historical sources. That encounter sparked a two-year search for the truth. Tim was determined to prove Catholicism wrong, but he ended up studying his way to the last place he thought he would ever end up: the Catholic Church!
He converted to Catholicism in 1988 and spent the following six years in formation for the priesthood, earning a degree in philosophy from St. Charles Borromeo Seminary in Overbrook, Pennsylvania. He then studied theology on a graduate level at Mount St. Mary’s Seminary in Emmitsburg, Maryland, for two years. Realizing that his calling was not to the priesthood, Tim left the seminary in 1994 and has been working in Catholic apologetics and evangelization ever since.
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18 years old raised Lutheran. After a longtime of not going to church regularly, I’ve come to the truth of the Catholic Church. Confirmation this Easter!!! Praise be to God
WELCOME!!!
That’s awesome!! Welcome!
You don't even know what Catholic means, you're going from one false church to another.
@@gracefaithCHRISTscriptureGOD Catholic means universal, the Church that has been for 2000 years. I politely disagree with you and will pray for you. God bless
@@dominiccugliari2282 friend you should do your research.
The first time "A church" was called catholic was in 110, but this was base on those that were a lined with it. Do your math.
By 381 the catholic church wasn't the same. And changed as "Roman Catholic Church."
Sometimes we do our history, but we don't go all the way deep to reading what is not convenient.
Romans brought in there culture, policies, laws, habits, morals, etc.... to the Catholic Church.
Before Constantine, people had to come by a name which helped them be protected by those persecuting them. And those a lined by the Catholic Church had to say they were Catholic.
I recommend you read everything you can read about Constantine and the cult of Isis and Mithraic.
Read about "what happen to those that worship a God by the name of Diana in the bible?"
Now..... Friend, if I were to tell you just by reading the bible would you find yourself to be catholic?
Like; would you ever know about the Hail Mary prayer without any catholic telling you?
Would you ever believe that a dead saint can actually speak for you while he or she is in heaven?
Would you ever believe peter was the first Pope?
Would you ever believed in the purgatory?
What about the remembrance in the statues or images?
These are just a few things.
But what I want to get to is this.
Do you really believe Christ is going to recognize you by being called catholic? Is he going to recognize you by a certain church building?
I'm no where close to being called catholic. But..... I can say we are the church for following christ. But one thing is to say it. And the other thing is that Christ can recognize you as his church which is way different.
I don't mean to sound smart. Nor did I comment you to be mean.
Just thought maybe you can use a push on some subjects or maybe give you a few thoughts to open.
a genuine faith will always be followed by works springing out of that faith
Unless you die right after having faith
@@Ian-xd2in lol
@@Ian-xd2in The moment you accept Christ's complete work of His saving grace is the moment you pass from death to life.
@William Cloud ok man, when you stand before The Lord and He tells you that He founded the one holy Catholic and apostolic church and this is what you said about it? You have no excuse if you watched this
There's no genuine faith in the RCC though!
"Salvation is by grace alone through faith...and not by works, lest anyone should boast."--Ephesians
That is essentially Ephisians 2:8-9. You are taking it out of context. Please, read Ephesians 2:10 as well. Or, better.yet, the entire 2nd book of Ephisians, instead of simply cherry picking the verses you, personally, want.
@@robertamcdonald5734 "All things work together for good to those who love God, for those who are called according to his purpose. For whom He FOREKNEW, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of Jesus so that Christ might be the first born of many brethren."
@@m.donahue6085 Spot On, Amen.
"For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:10
In context we should not boast in our own works, but in the good works we are gifted and compelled to do in faith to our Lord Jesus.
@@sifuanthonytarasca1686 "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father, except through ME." --Jesus Christ
@@m.donahue6085 Amen.
Our works are a byproduct of the faith that God has given us. Jesus did all the work that saves us and there is nothing that can be added to it
@Philip Carpenter when you were a child did your parents know things that you didn't? Did ever listen to them because you loved them, respected them and had the understanding that they probably knew better than you? You have a choice to either humble yourself and follow the path that God provides and trust in him or you can go your own way. You can be the one who decides what is good and what is evil. You can live for your own purpose and maybe you can manipulate some gullible people into following you. You can live your life to the fullest and have everything that the world has to offer, because you have placed your faith in the world. Here's the kicker though. You don't get to take it with you when you're dead. Faith in what God offers you carries on even after you die. Faith in the world dies in the world. Either way like it or not you have faith too. It's just a very short sighted faith that will never satisfy or last. Only faith in Jesus is eternal and saves. You have faith in dust. I have faith in the creator of the universe. You wouldn't be on here posting comments like this unless you were feeling empty and thirsting for something more. There is more for you than dust.
@Philip Carpenter You seem to have all of the answers. Maybe you can answer a few questions I have. What is driving you you to come on here and waste your time trying to debate strangers and prove your point? I don't believe that smurfs are real and I don't have any need to prove that. Yet here you are wasting your time and energy trying to prove how gullible I am. Why would you care what I believe? Why would you fight against something that you didn't believe exists? Why don't you waste your time in proving that Santa doesn't exist? Instead you driven to speak out against Christians. I've spoken to plenty of people who are just like yourself. You speak from the same mind because you are driven by the same thing. The holy spirit drives me. Who is your motivation?
@Philip Carpenter well I guess you have it all figured out. Good luck
You’re exactly right man. People think it’s faith+works=salvation when it’s actually faith=salvation+works
@Philip Carpenter My good friend Philip, I'm happy to see you.
By their fruits you shall know them. Read your bible, pray everyday, & you'll grow, grow, grow. ❤
And the fruits of Catholicism has always been wicked and evil
@@dieselcowboy777 that's a very truthful and profound statement!
Thanks!
@@lydiapetra1211 the only thing it is is incredibly unfactual. Give us an example. (The catholic church gives 110 billion in the us alone per annum for healthcare, since your government and the wacko protties don't seem to care much, the next biggest charitable organization is bill gates' and they do 5bn globally.)
@@stefanknezovic88 Millions tortured and murdered in the dark ages by the RCC.
@@ExperienceEric unfactual. The inquisition was the beginning of detective work, we have numerous historical accounts that those imprisoned by secular rulers would blaspheme intentionally as to be transferred under church authority for they knew they would have fairer treatment. In an age that was more brutal the church paved the way forward for more civil treatment. You are confuzing what countries monarchs did for what the church did (such as the spanish inquisition not under control of the church). The inquisition very rarely dealt with witches, but dealt with heretics, you might have confuzed the RCC for protties and puritanicals there in witch burning terms. In any account, you must be high off of bath salts to claim millions dead since no more than 2% of those that underwent inquisition trials were sentenced to death. Ready to bash protestantism now?
The time a protestant says the Catholic Church is unbiblical and later on lectured by a well-versed former protestant that Protestantism is in fact the one that is unbiblical in a very respectful manner.
The church of rome puts its authority OVER God's Word, how can that be correct ? As anyone that looks at any Roman Catholic church it's full off idolatry, lies , superstition and Hersey. It's mostly man made, there are no popes, nuns, prayer beads , prayers for the dead, worship of Mary or any dead people inSide Word. God had to step in with the Reformation and bring the church into line with His Word. If you can't see this your on the broad road to he'll. Read God's Word for the Truth and I hope you find it
@@gracefaithCHRISTscriptureGOD I’ll have to disagree. Was once Protestant but am no longer. So one thing. The Catholic Church CREATED (sorry if I’m being rude) the Bible and Martin Luther removed from it. Anyone who removes or adds to the word of God does not have his name in the book of life. Not only that we don’t worship Mary. As a former Protestant I used to think they did but now I know we don’t worship Mary or the Saints in fact. Also why wouldn’t you pray for the dead not praying too them but for them. If someone passed away, wouldn’t you pray for their soul?
@@lemonade71440 Mostly true. Only thing is that the Catholic Church put the Bible together, they didn’t create/write it.
@@gracefaithCHRISTscriptureGOD This doesn’t make any since. You saying that the church doesn’t have all these thing when it does?
@@ManMan-fv2ko right my bad
What about Ephesians 2:8-9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast."
That directly countradicts your claim that it is no where in the bible.
The scripture proves that works are a portion of the salvation formula. I come at it from this angle. Bob is chosen by God and is called. Bob truly believes and is completely changed. Because Bob now knows the Truth and can’t ever go back, he just can’t help but do good things through his love of God. I’m a protestant branch Christian and I just don’t know why this is a debated issue. I do believe works are important!
I read just today in romans where paul was talking about how Abraham was counted as righteous when he believed God. We live by faith alone which produces good works.
If someone believe in God/Jesus, it means he knows who God is, what God can do, knows what he did (sins), knows what God want him to do and apply His will. He should understand that all the things God do are good and irreproachable. Then he would believe.
The easiest way to refute this is to look at the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15. Many men came to that council saying that the Gentiles and Jews alike needed to keep the laws of Moses in order to be saved. Yet, the Jerusalem Council gathered together to discuss this matter and their findings were not only very clear, but the biggest rebuke of Catholic doctrine found in Scripture: “Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.” Acts 15:10-11 ESV
Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved,through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
@Cortney Nicholson Correct we are created for good works but we are given the gift of salvation. You do not work for a gift and the works God has for you are the gold ,silver, and precious gems of 1 Cor 3:11-15
@Cortney Nicholson Eph 2:10 shows us that we were created to do GOOD works not bad works . God is the one that we go to and He directs us to those Good works that He wants us to do. 1 Cor 3:11-15 is the context of verse 15. There is no purgatory nor any need of purgatory because Christ died on the cross for every sin we have done are doing or will do. We are forgiven when we repent and follow Christ . God gives us salvation as a gift as evidenced by Eph 2: through faith. You might notice the term through faith has nothing attached to it , not alone , not works , not anything. Eph 2: also points out that God places our spirits in the heavenly realm with Jesus after we repent. Our flesh that does not inherit the kingdom of God is what we have to work with and on. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins we are mostly clean? That is what purgatory claims.
Titus 3:5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
He saved us , is not the same as He is saving us. So back to building on the foundation of Christ in 1 Cor 3: , you can not build with sin so sin is not in question here and purgatory is for getting rid of the stain of sin. Coll 2:9-15 tells you that Christ dying on the cross for you and did everything for you already to make you clean . 1 Cor 6: gives you a whole mess of things we have done before Christ came into our lives and verse 11 points out what we WERE and what has happened to us because of Christ.
The wood hay and stubble of our lives is what we do thinking it is pleasing to God and that is not His will for us.
The gold silver and precious gems is the work that God has directed us to do and there are rewards for service to God as Paul points out. You are building on the foundation of Christ , you are building up the church with what you do . Faith in action .
James 2:15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you tells him, “Go in peace; stay warm and well fed,” but does not provide for his physical needs, what good is that? 17 So too, faith by itself, if it does not result in action, is dead.
Do you think this is worth a reward from God or is this some wood hay and stubble that you have built with?
"Why Protestant Doctrine Is Unbiblical" ....as discussed by Catholic Answers?
Maybe someone at Catholic Answers could point out where in the bible it mentions purgatory or limbo.
Or where in the Bible it says a priest is required as an intermediary who a sinnner must confess their sins to before god or Jesus can forgive them.
The followers of satan will never answer you on that
I'm a Catholic guy. I'm not qualified to answer your questions but if you really want to know the answers I'm pretty sure there are other videos explaining the questions you're looking for. Another good channel you can check out is Ascension Presents. Either way, do some research and you'll find an answer. Hope I could help :)
@@nonconformist4802 If you think Catholics like me worship Satan, you don't know what Catholicism is. We don't worship the saints or Mary, we recognize them as saved people and ask for their intercession (their prayers); we institute the Eucharist at Mass because Jesus told us to (John 6:54 literally says "Whoever eats my body and drinks my blood has eternal life"); and as the earliest members of the now Catholic Church were the first followers of Jesus, we are the original church Jesus initiated and gave authority to (Simon to Peter, "on this rock I shall build my church," etc.) The reason I say all this is that these arguments are what Protestants bring up so often in religious debates. I wanted to get them out of the way bc I'm assuming you're a Protestant and it seems like these may answer some of your questions.
@@andybiehl8364
_We don't worship the saints or Mary, we_ _recognize them as saved people and_ _ask for their intercession_
Sounds so Biblical and holy and you call yourself again WHAT???
Go sell your rubbish talk to them that really don't know who you are, not to them you assumed know nothing
nice pivot. btw when are you going to respond to his arguments? lol
Romans 4:2-5 (NKJV) 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has [something] to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. 5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,
There is one Spirit , one Lord. And so it is written. The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. God is Spirit. God bless.
Maybe the Catholics would like to explain away that part of the NT where it says in later times deceiving spirits would come, forbidding men to marry, amongst other things.
All this absolute nonsense discussion and controversy and misunderstanding between faith and works. It's not difficult, actually it's so pathetic and shameful that a whole bunch of mature Christians have to endlessly debate a basic belief of the Bible. No wonder non believers mock us.
When you first become saved, it's purely by faith. You cannot earn it and only the sacrifice of Jesus provides it. Think of the thief on the cross. He could not do any works hanging on the cross. But he believed and was saved.
However..........
After time, there is process of sanctification as the Bible states, means that you grow in faith. The thief on the cross could not do any good works, he could not grow in faith, he could not grow in knowledge of the scriptures. If however he was suddenly pardoned after confessing Jesus he would bear fruit, as Jesus said. That means good works, in accordance with your faith, it means growing in hope, love, goodness, kindness etc, it means repentance of dead works and sin, it means growing in knowledge of the scriptures, in prayer, in devotion in daily life.
You are saved by faith only. If you, like the thief on the cross, have a couple of hours to live and are immobile and cannot do anything, good or bad, you are saved exclusively by belief and confession of the name of Jesus. If like the most of us you continue to live upon this earth, then your faith grows and you increase in fruits of the Spirit, in works and deeds, in knowledge etc.
It's not hard to understand. This is just basic and to our shame as Christians we debate even the milk of the word, as Paul said.
The entrance to Heaven is by faith in Christ. Nothing else. The life you love in Christ, your works, deeds, devotion, love, patience, kindness etc determine your rewards in Heaven, again as Paul says. After confessing Christ if you are truly devoted to Him, you will grow in works, deeds, repentance, love, kindness, patience etc. When the Bible says that faith without works is dead, it means those who confess Christ but are not really devoted to Him afterwards. It means false or shallow disciples, those who believe but don't bear fruit as Jesus said in the parable of the sower. They stagnate in their faith and do not grow in Him. Hence they produce no good works or anything else such as repentance, goodness, kindness, patience, gentleness love etc.
This is all just basic Biblical teaching. There should be no misunderstanding of such an elementary teaching of the Bible and its to professing Christians shame that such debate occurs.
Solid response.
So you just made yourself into your own Pope claiming authority to interpret the Bible. Big deal. The difference between you and the Pope is that he was given authority by Christ and you were not. Do you think truth is determined by a democracy of ideas in which each man follows his own understanding? The Bible teaches that truth is determined by authority, not by deciding what you think is the best argument. Your unexamined method of exegesis is not Biblical; it's a man made tradition invented by Luther. Every man can write their own version of what you wrote, but so what? The question is, who does the Bible say Jesus gave spiritual authority? Ill give you a hint; it was not you and it was not me.
@@stevedoetsch So imbecile I'm not even going to bother replying. And most other people reading your post would agree with me. Christ directly giving authority to the Pope. Lol, nice one dude. 😆
You made a giant write up claiming authority to interpret the Bible for others yet you think its ridiculous that someone else can do it too?
Yes, the Catholic Church claims authority from Christ; it's the only Church with apostolic succession from St Peter to the current Pope. Your [insert any Protestant denomination] church was made by someone other than Christ.
You have still failed to explain what makes your explanation of the Bible more correct than anyone else's. Non-Biblical methods of exegesis are contradictory because each man claims his understanding of the Bible is better than other people's.
Why do you think your explanation of the Bible is better than mine, or the Pope's, or anyone's?
@@stevedoetsch Paul says that doctrines of demons will come into the church in latter times, forbidding to marry and forbidding to eat foods. What part of that needs explaining and "interpreting" to you? Anyone with half a brain can easily interpret that.
You forbid to marry-doctrine of demons.
You forbid foods-doctrine of demons.
Tell me you can't understand something as simple as that. What is wrong with you?
I spent 55 years in the Presbyterian Church. This was after Dad left the Catholic Church when I was 6 or 7. I came very close to converting to Catholicism as a teenager or young adult but I got scared away because I didn't understand the mass. There was one teaching that kept me away and it wasn't Mary or the usual things that Protestants object to. It was divorce and remarriage. Mom was divorced before Dad married her. Its why he left the Church. My wife divorced her first husband to marry me. I saw no way of ever becoming Catholic because of what Dad said about leaving the Catholic Church. I didn't know about annulments or anything. Mary was another issue but not like divorce. Once I saw someone who I knew had a divorce and converted to Catholicism, that opened my heart to Catholicism. I began looking at Catholic teaching. I had already left Protestantism. I knew my church was false. 1 Timothy 3:15 showed me that scripture alone or bible alone was unbiblical. I came home 4 years ago.
@@kmountain5533 exactly. His words never change. His Word proves He founded ONE church and only ONE church. Verifiable historical documents show that church is the Catholic Church
All New Testament scriptures were written by Catholics since there was only ONE church in the world until after the 16th century when Protestantism started.
@@kmountain5533
I have verifiable facts that back up my beliefs. The Holy Spirit is the only one who converts someone to Catholicism. I have given you God's truth. Whether you accept it or not, that's up to you.
Satan hates Catholicism and could not destroy it so Satan did the only thing he could. He created Protestantism or non-Catholic beliefs to deceive others.
I will not continue to converse with you since you apparently have a closed mind to the Word of God.
I will pray for you. I'll ask Mary, the Mother of God, to also pray for you. Bye. May God lead you to His truth.
You've convinced me Tim, I was veering towards the catholic church but now Im 100% away from protestantism.
praise the Lord, He has brought me near to the church and I’ve felt so enlightened!!!! God bless you!
Are you sure that catholicism will save your soul?
Nothing about Catholicism is Biblical
@@chadlee243 you should read the church fathers. If you do you'll find what John Henry newman said was true and that is "To be steeped in church history is to no longer be protestant"
@@chadlee243 Sola Scriptura is unbiblical.
To say that we must do works for salvation is to say that what Christ did on the cross wasn't sufficient.
You must think awfully high of yourself if you believe God needs your help to save you.
William Munny 23 ... Wow man, are you saying that the 10 Commandments are of without any purpose, that we can just brush it all as mere texts, because we are no longer bound to it since Jesus has already saved us? That we can violate every single one if those commandment & will have no repercussion whatsoever?
Do not be led astray, there are several passages that speak of justification (salvation) by faith alone. Examples: Ephesians 2:8-9, Galatians 2:16, Romana 5:1. Of course works are crucial to an individual’s sanctification, or the process of being made like Christ, it is merely a reflection of the internal work that God has performed. In other words, you are saved through faith alone and you will want do works to show the world what God has done for you (essentially showing fruits of the spirit).
The fruits of the Spirit and any works are what God is doing in you also. It's not of your own power. It is God transforming you.
@@joycegreer9391 Very Catholic Joyce though the Catholic would add that we cooperate with his Grace to do the good works of love. We have the free will to do so, or not. This is why in James 2, God says Abraham's faith was made complete by works (of love).
_22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works_
And can an incomplete faith save you?
_14 What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him?_
No.
Which is why God makes it clear that one is justified, made right with God, saved, by work (of love) not faith alone.
_24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone._
If it is going to be asserted that Protestant/Evangelical Christianity is wrong because it holds to doctrines that are not found in Scripture or in the early Church, then the Church of Rome is hanged by the very same principle.
This is my complaint with contemporary Roman apologists: they are simply hypocrites, accusing other Christians of the very same failings that they enthusiastically plunge into. The blindness is that they only see the error when others make it, and don't see that they are making it too.
Faith results in salvation. Works results in rewards.
"Faith without works is dead."
James 2:24-26
@@stevedavis6618 fellow christian, james is talking to the jews not the Gentiles
@Saliem Semere God is rightly dividing his salvation during the time of Jesus. James audience then where the 12 tribes of Israel, the Jews (james 1:1). Paul was Eph 2:8-9 was addressed to the ephesians (gentiles) because jesus made Paul the apostle for the gentiles (Acts 9:15). The salvation of the gentiles didn't come until Paul because of the rejection of the jews (rom 11:11). Does this make sense to you?
@@stevedavis6618 Point being it wasn’t a true faith if a persons faith (gift from God) does not compel a person to want to do good works. The desire at the initial point of salvation is great to want to do good works, due to the circumcision of the heart - Deuteronomy 30:6.
@@noeloblena there is only one faith.
“one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.”
Ephesians 4:5-6 NASB1995
Fair enough?
The same chapter that you use, contradict your self read Acts 15.11 also Peter was confirming that the human laws that the Pharisees was using was unnecessary. It’s funny because Catholics are like new age Pharisees with a mask of Christianity!
And tell me about these human laws in catholic church please. Go protestie, enligjten me please
The catholic church is the church of Jesus Christ
'New age'? Its been around for a couple of millennia.
We are under the Covenant of Grace, and if one is to follow the Law of Christ; works of mercy and charity, ARE required, as well as working to crucifying the works of the flesh.
John makes this perfectly clear in his Epistles, as does James.
Paul is very clear, that working to eradicate personal sins and habits, are also essential. If one thinks they can live as they have always lived, after an encounter with Jesus; they are sorely mistaken, and deceived.
50% of Hebrews is filled with warnings regarding losing one’s salvation.
Our works are works of mercy and charity. To compare us to the Pharisees, who’s works were devoid of such, and self centered, is ridiculous.
Grew up a Catholic, revered Jesus and respected Mary as the blessed mother of God. Prayed many Hail Mary's and Our Fathers. Encountered priests nuns and brothers that didn't seem particularly happy and certainly was led to feel less than and kept in their religious prison. Never felt free to be where I was at. But I was a Catholic and I was cool with that. At 34 encountered Pentecostal church. Had a profound encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ. Was given a greater understanding of who I was in Christ and formed a relationship with the Holy Spirit that is still marvellous until this day. In the Catholic Church I learnt reverence but the general feel amongst the Catholics was that the protestants were beneath us. That did not seem like love to me. In the protestant church I found freedom in the Holy Spirit and was able to forge a real relationship with Jesus. Protestants reckon the Pope is the Antichrist and they're also way to fixated on the devil ( deliverance ministry). I certainly agree with the bible that states Mary is greatly blessed amongst all women, but I believe many Catholics pray more to Mary than they do through Christ to the Father. I've listened to Catholic scholars attempt to use scripture to say that Mary is queen of heaven. The scriptures they use seem to stretch the bow a little bit. Until I see it by revelation in the scriptures, I don't have an opinion either way. I believe Protestants and Catholics are part of the body of Christ and it would certainly be wonderful if they would stop arguing over one word. What a Glorious Church to behold if we could truly come together as one united body. Reminds me of that Catholic song " and we pray that our unity will one day be restored and they'll know we are Christians by our love." Lift your game brethren stop having to be right. Come together in love ❤️ in Jesus name. Peace and Grace.
You can still have that zeal and personal encounter with Christ as a member of the Catholic Church. Just bc you experienced a few bad apples doesn’t mean the Catholic Church is invalid or that it ceases to be the One that Christ founded.
The queen mother comes from old biblical terms where the Kings mother in the old Testament was called the queen. Not the King's wife. Mary is the mother of Jesus who is God if you believe in the trinity this makes Mary the Queen Mother I hope that helps
@kathyweiland4732 Thank you for sharing that. I had not looked at it with that understanding. Futher searching revealed the Hebrew word Gebhirah, translated Queen Mother or Great Lady. Nice 😊. I'm still left with the question of whether or not I can communicate with Mary and the saints. I can't find any examples in the Bible. I hope I'm not being contentious, I just don't want to be engaged in any practices that in any way displeases our Lord and I certainly don't want to push away something that God has ordained to be a Holy practice. Jesus is the way to the Father, I will continue in the Lords Prayer and walking in the Faith of the son of God. I pray you encounter greater Grace's in God this day. Bless you.
@anthonymiskell1772 The Bible does mention praying for the dead and the early Christians believed in intercessory prayer with those in Heaven. Intercession was also taught in the Bible.
@littleone1656 the Bible speaks about raising the dead, not praying to or through those that have died. I don't think you read or understood my post. Jesus intercedes for us to the Father. Those alive on the Earth can pray for one another.
A faith without Love for God is meaningless, the foundation of the Church is the Love of God for us and this LOVE is not the same as the Love of men but it is a LOVE that is above all Love, the very foundation of Life itself is the Love of God...
LOVE = Justice = Jesus;
Jesus Christ is eternally the son of God.
Yes He is and I wonder why I got the Holyghost was fine and not even told I was not fully converted and why was I attack before I was even fully converted. We were born again and had the Holyghost and no WE DONT TALK ABOUT MARTIN LUTHER AT ALL
WE HAVE FAITH and not a POPE. JESUS PLEASE RESTORE ME.
When we have total faith in the Lord, the works automatically follows. The works are a fruit of our faith in Christ. There are two kinds of works- one is flesh driven and one is holy spirit driven. You can do charity works, feed the poor, give money to poor, help people in so many ways but if it's not out of love then it's no use. But the works that comes through faith is a genuine works that God sees it. So when we protestants say it's by faith alone, we are saying total trust in the Lord and the works will follow naturally.
And if they don’t follow then you weren’t actually saved?
If that's what Protestants " really mean " , then why don't they ever say it ? I've been discussing that topic with Protestants for 35 years , and not one person said it .
@@juanyer3646 yes
@@Flapperjaw we are saying it now then my brother. God bless
This ignores history where very many unscrupulous people were able to gain ascendancy over the Catholic church and come up with unbilblical docrtrines like purgatory. All under the guise that the church holds equal status and authority to the word of God. The church does have authority, but only when it is subservient to the Bible and cannot venture out on its own.
You try to get to God through rituals and human traditions. Just drop to your knees and cry out to Jesus and ask Him to save you.
@Apostolic Nuncio to Kekistan The reformation was 1517 btw. No idea where you get 2000 years from. And praying to Mary instead of Jesus is surely not how you get saved.
You people better get born again of God's Spirit. Stop playing religion. You can't get to God except through Christ Blood. Get that through your thick heads. Rosaries, other books than the Bible are WORTHLESS. GODLY SORROW OF THE HEART LEADS TO TRUE REPENTANCE.
@Nomore4x4s Your pride
@Nomore4x4s You are going down. You better get right with God.
It's a warning to you and God is not playing games and never has. I found that out myself years ago.
According to the protestant author Tozier concerning protestantism," In our zeal to escape the saved by works of the catholics we have committed the opposite error of salvation without obedience"
If your confused about what James actually meant, Paul clears it up.
Ephesians 2:8
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
When Catholic Apologists tell people on their afternoon radio shows not to read the Bible, you know there's a problem. When you watch Catholic UA-cam videos of people showing off their in home tabernacles, surrounded by statues and figurines of Mary and other Saints, which they pray to, that's a problem.
No Catholic Apologist is going to tell someone to not read the bible.
and what unbiblical doctrines do catholics hav?
take out d log in ur eye first so u can correct others properly.
Except Catholics don't claim the Bible to be the only source of authority.
Indulgences , purgatory , praying to anyone other than God , the belief that Mary is more than what the scriptures tell us , belief in apparitions that have stated things contrary to scripture?
well, none
@@Cklert Here is a quote from a catholic: "Furthermore, the Church, not the Bible, is the pillar and foundation of the truth." So what the "Bible" says is irrelevant, only what the Magisterium says matters. Even though the first leaders of the church, the apostles, wrote or dictated almost all of the New Testament, they matter less than what the current Magisterium says.
@@Cklert catholics have a false bible from the Alexandria manuscript
I grew up in the Catholic Church and left after not being feed spiritually. When I did start reading the Bible for myself I found that more Catholic Doctrines are unbiblical like Praying to Mary, saying that communion is the literal body and blood of Christ and things like purgatory.
In the bible we read that Adam followed his own way and not God's way. It didn't work for Adam. .Follow God's church as taught by Jesus.
these things are in the bible, but what makes you think all our beliefs must be explicitly found in the bible
@@ken8334 we that have accepted Jesus Christ and have received the Holy Spirit are the Church. God is not concerned with the place where you went to worship Him. Those who go to church every Sunday but have no relationship with Jesus Christ might as well stay home.
@@Andrew89219 where else would you want to find your beliefs. From other men in the world who are just as broken as you me me? I chose Gods Word.
Too bad you were never a Catholic.
Keep reading your Bibles and I pray God will show you the truth
Who told you which books were in the bible? Catholic church did
The Bible says, "the just shall live by his faith." Faith in what? "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved!" Catholics teach that works of the flesh will save: The transubstantiation, going to a human priest for forgiveness of sins, reciting a prayer to Mary, bowing down to statues. These abominable practices came not from Jesus but from the pagan religions. This is what Martin Luther condemned and he was right!
No one denies that faith without works is dead. But the "works" are not based on human origin. They are the response of love that comes from a realization of what Jesus has done for us. Our works are filthy rags. Let no Christian seek to justify himself by touting his works when all we need to do is look to the Son of God and be saved. Catholicism is false religion, PERIOD.
I agree, I think what it means in James where it says “faith without works is dead” is basically saying if you have faith and you have been saved that you’ll want to do good works for God, but it definitely isn’t your works that save you. We’re saved by God’s grace through our faith in Him.
@@appalachiangunman9589 WHAT does the book of Revelations say that we will be judged by? Our faith? Our works? Our good looks? Revelations 20:12-13
@@jeremiahchapman9288 Hi Jeremiah, couple of things. The bible doesn't contradict itself. So salvation is by Grace thru faith in Jesus. Now what is going on in Revelations at the great white thrown. Some are in the Lamb's book of life and others aren't. Some who are saved are getting great rewards ( not salvation) others have made it by the skin of their teeth. Others are being sent to eternal punishment. Rewards not earning salvation. Read it in the context of the whole Bible. Do so and you will live free from the "Judiazers". The apostle Paul wasn't wrong in Galations.
@@jam9235 Faith is explained by James. If we have faith then we will take ACTION based on that faith. Faith without works is dead.
In Galations, Paul wraps up his thoughts like this:
Galatians 6:4-10
(4) But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
(5) For every man shall bear his own burden.
(6) Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
(7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
(8) For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
(9) And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
(10) As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
My thoughts -> Well Doing is to continue in doing the works of the father ie. obedience to his instructions. Our initial salvation is not based on anything we do but by our acceptance of God's position in our life and our willingness to accept his leadership and direction. It is how a bride accepts her husbands authority over her.
We are his bride. We must promise to obey him. Simple....
Well said brother
Protestants believe in the word of God as told in the bible. But there is more to life than just the bible. Protestants need to remember that. As the commentator says: "As you sow, so shall you reap." It is as plain as that.
PLEASE READ VERY CAREFULLY AS IF YOUR ETERNAL “LIFE” DEPENDED ON IT
In the Book of Hebrews Chapter 10, in context, the author was talking to “baptized” Christians (Hebrews 10:22) telling them to not be “neglecting to meet together” in “the Church” - being the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. Why “the Church”???
***Hebrews 10:26-29 “For IF WE SIN DELIBERATELY after receiving knowledge of the truth, THERE NO LONGER REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS, BUT A FEARFUL PROSPECT OF JUDGMENT, AND A FURY OF FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES………..HOW MUCH MORE PUNISHMENT DO YOU THINK WILL BE DESERVED BY THE MAN WHO HAS SPURNED THE SON OF GOD, AND PROFANED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT BY WHICH HE HAS SANCTIFIED, AND OUTRAGED THE SPIRIT OF GRACE”.***
What does Sacred Scriptures clearly say “IF WE SIN DELIBERATELY” or willfully break any of the commandments whether the old (10 Commandments) or NEW (Laws of LOVE or refusing to LOVE as Christ commands per John 13:34)??? If “THERE NO LONGER REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS, BUT A FEARFUL PROSPECT OF JUDGMENT”, then how does one obtain reconciliation with GOD again???
We must examine the old covenant to fully understand the NEW COVENANT. In Leviticus 5:5-6 and Numbers 5:5-9 we understand what an old covenant Jew had to do to receive GOD's forgiveness. Additionally, GOD in the Books of Leviticus and Numbers any time personal “sin” is even mentioned you will read over and over again “THUS THE PRIEST SHALL MAKE ATONEMENT FOR A MAN’S SINS AND IT WILL BE FORGIVEN” (Lev 4:20, 4:26, 4:31,4:35, 5:6, 5:10, 5:13, 5:16, 5:18, 6:7, 7:7, 12:8, 14:18, 14:19, 14:20, 14:29, 14:31, 15:15, 15:30, 16:32, 16:33, 19:22 Num. 6:11,15:25, and 15:28). In the old covenant, GOD clearly uses ordained “men”, the Leviticus Priesthood, to administer His forgiveness.
Now, does GOD keep His WORD and covenant promises??? GOD promises to have a perpetual priesthood per His covenant in Numbers 25:12-13 and Malachi 2:4-7 and has WORDS of “forever” in Exodus 29:7-9, 40:15, and 1 Chronicles 23:13. Then, GOD promises to have a perpetual priesthood in Jeremiah 33:14-22 NEW COVENANT PROPHECY. And, in context of “gathering the nations” in Isaiah 66:18 GOD states in Isaiah 66:21 “some of them also I will take for priests”, meaning no longer based on Levi tribal lineage in the NEW COVENANT. In John Chapter 13, we see Jesus Christ fulfilling His Father’s Levi Covenant promise and Malachi 3:3 prophecy, when He sits down in the upper room “purifying” the NEW COVENANT PRIESTHOOD with a “washing”. This “washing” was a “forever” priestly liturgical GOD command in Exodus 30:21- in order to perform any altar work or sacrifice.
What “same” power does the Son of GOD give to His ONE and ONLY established Church or “the Church” per Matthew 16:19, 18:18 and specifically explained to the NEW COVENANT PRIESTHOOD by Jesus in John 20:21-23???
In 2 Corinthians 5:18-20 St. Paul describes what Jesus Christ did was He “GAVE US THE MINISTRY OF RECONCILIATION” and concluded “SO WE ARE AMBASSADORS FOR CHRIST”. An “ambassador” wields what kind of power as an “official representative” of Christ or more specifically explained in “the Church” as “persona Christi”???
Please come or return to your real home and be “reconciled” to “the Church” HIS ONE BODY (Ephesians 4:4-6). What did Jesus Christ create, pray for in John 17:21-23 and die for??? If you really LOVE Jesus Christ, then you will respond to His prayer and join the “ONENESS” that He created. The “Lamb of GOD” wants to unite with you in the NEW COVENANT PASSOVER (Luke 22:19) in His ONE and ONLY established Church, so we all can be “perfectly ONE”. May GOD richly bless you on your journey.
Don't know or care what bible he is using. Salvation comes from faith in God and accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior.
Salvation is a 100% grace - it's a gift, that has always been the Catholic teaching from the Apostolic Fathers to the present day.
@@4SyriaTruth
So it has been praying to deflowered dead and impotent corpses like your "Mary" and so called "saints", isn't it? One is the Life, the Truth and the ONLY WAY TO OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. His name is JESUSCHRIST. Plain and simple...not that filthy version found on the "book of catechism".
@@ottozambrana66 who says that we dont believe that? We do believe that jesus is the only way to the father. We believe that Jesus is the mediator between us and the Father. 100% The saints and Mary intercede for for through Jesus. Doesnt that make sense to you? Or do you think that we pray to Mary and the saint s to bypass Jesus and go straight to the Father? If the latter is what you're saying then you're wrong because that is not what we're doing. In no way are we trying to bypass Jesus in order to claim salvation. No one in the entirety of the Catholic faith says or believes that. Instead we pray to Mary and the saints to intercede for our prayers which almost always ends with "Through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen." So what's the problem here?
@@ottozambrana66 our "so called Mary" is your mother just as much as she is the Mother of Christ, our Lord and Saviour. To deny that she is the mother of God is to deny that Jesus is God. She is the handmaid of the Lord.
True faith requires work, following them commandments of Jesus Christ. The fact is historically, no Christian ever believed the Protestant solas or tulip. Then look at Protestant religions, they have fallen to secularism of the world. Protestants have by and large accepted homosexuality and women in the clergy, some have accepted abortion. The Catholic had never fallen to these. Besides Protestantism was started by MEN such as Luther, Catholicism was founded by Christ. I follow Jesus Christ. I’m sorry you’re lost in LITERALLY man-made traditions
I respectfully disagree with the speaker on this isssue of works. I do not believe that works save or justify. Only through faith and by grace are we saved. Works should be as a result of faith, fruits that you bear because you believe and not the means to salvation. Therefore if one truly believes then their actions will show. "You shall know them by their fruit". (Mathew 7:15-20). The issue with works, especially for me, is: How many works do I need to perform in order for me to be saved? If I fail to do 1 or 2 works, is my salvation canceled? Do works include the obedience of the law?
Do not get me wrong, for me works are important and everyone's words and actions will be judged and will be repaired accordingly. But no one will enter the Kingdom of God if they do not believe for "...it is impossible to please God without faith."(Hebrews 11:6). This is a matter that ever Christian ought to look into and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to them. Shalom
I concur, faith naturally breeds works not the other way around
And how about an evangelist preacher who constantly claims that he has the faith, then he cheats his wife, use the money that he collected for a charity organisation for himself, and only when he is discovered claims that he is a sinner, but he has faith in Jesus Christ so God forgave him and he is now saved, than he cheats his wife, user the money [...] -(repeat the cycle 10 times)
"Faith" alone is not enough in that case.
But if you consider that someone is doing good deeds _because_ he has the faith, in several cases it can be true, although an atheist could also do good deeds sometimes. Both are necessary, even if the amount of 'work' is not clearly defined, its your general behavior toward other people.
@@lereseauamitie6349 if he does those types of things did he really have true faith in the first place? Or did he just trick himself into thinking faith was something else?
@@Lapegacorn Aaaah! The usual protestant reply; faith alone is supposed to save you, but if you do something wrong neverthless, it's not because faith alone in't enough, it's because your faith wasn't genuine enough. That's just playing with words since the marker to determine if your faith was genuine is your _acts_. or your work as seen by other people around you.
@@lereseauamitie6349 if I sit in my garage and go "vroom vroom" does that make me a car? Just like sitting in church and calling yourself a Christian just for being there
1 Timothy 3:1-7 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition >> Qualifications of Bishops
If you are listening to this discussion, wondering if there is a Jesus- He is real. He is complete, tender love and He wants to know you. Look for Him and you'll easily find Him.
"Until some men came along and starting teaching traditions of men that contradicted the Word of God"...I agree completly with the statement. Teachings like, for example, that there are other mediators between God and man like it says in 1 Timothy 2:5. What religions teach that there are other mediators I wonder?
Pot calling the kettle black. Catholicism has not convinced me at all, only thing that they brought to light is that good works are part of the Christian walk and we should strive to do them, but AFTER our salvation by grace.
@@deeds7529one is justified by grace from the sacraments & salvation comes with faith & good works
@@deeds7529Jesus started Catholic church
Protestants love to first say faith alone saves you, then they say works are brought about by faith. That’s literally agreeing with the Catholic Church. Because you’re admitting that BOTH are needed to live out the Christian lifestyle.
Grace alone saves which is unmerited and a free gift from God. Without grace from God through Jesus Christ death and resurrection there is no salvation. You can do all the good works you want and the Bible will tell you they are like filthy rags compared to what God has done for our salvation. If you think good works is necessary for your salvation then you are like Muslims, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Hindus, Buddhists and all the other false religions. It is grace through faith and that not of ourselves lest any man should boast. But James said faith without works is dead. How is that true? Simple. Once you discover grace through faith your life actions will change automatically and if you stay in that grace your actions or works will continue to be manifested in your life but works will never save you.
@@aljay2955 And yet, Protestants love boasting.
@@aljay2955 you contradicted yourself and proves the Catholic Church is correct in your last sentence. Even though you received grace, you still have free will to choose good or bad. Many ppl DO choose bad which can lead to losing your Salvation. But if you choose good, which is an action in itself, can lead to you continuing to make good choices/actions. Which can lead you to Heaven. So therefore, faith+works are necessary in order to be saved.
@@littleone1656 Good works does not save you. If it did then anyone whether Christian or not could be saved by good works. Paul and James made it clear that grace by faith in Jesus is the only way to be saved. A works based salvation is wrong. A works based salvation nullifies Jesus Christ dying on the cross and being raised again. Works based salvation is a way for Roman Catholicism to control you. Nobody needs a religious organization to be saved. There is no contradiction is what I stated. Believe what you want but I was a Catholic and I know their system of salvation. All the best to you.
@@aljay2955 First, if you had been a Catholic, you were obviously a bad one. You clearly never fully understood the teachings which is why it was so easy for you to be manipulated to leave. Second, the Church doesn’t believe in a “works-based salvation” as you protty’s love to call it. They way you explain it is pretty much what the Church already teaches and has ALWAYS taught it. The difference is terminology. That’s all…and yes you DID contradict yourself.
If you're not born again, you're not sanctified, and if you're, not sanctified, you're not part of God's elect, and if you're not part of his elect, you're part of the chaf that is to be burned at harvest time. only the wheat is stored in the barn to be part of the feast.. For the weat to claim that it is what did the work, and not the sewer that sewed the seeds is beyond reproach to boast that the weat planted and harvested itself..we are saved by grace thru faith, wich comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, he does all the works, so, that none should boast.. our works is, the love God gives us, to share with the world..
Faith Alone. God's Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Amen, we need to trust the interpretation of the apostles passed down through the magisterium of the Church founded by Jesus. The Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church
Amen!!!!
This guy shines the halo of the RCC very well and points out some flaws with what happened to the church when Luther found the Catholic church hierarchy with both hands in the cookie jar. While polishing said halo he refuses to acknowledge the false doctrines within the RCC. He is of course biased towards the RCC and not the scriptures .
Tim is not biased towards the Catholic church. He used to be Protestant. He is biased towards the truth. Jesus started the Catholic church. Will you join? If not….why not?
@@johnyang1420 I am a born again believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and a member of the body of Christ Eph 2:19-22 To become a member of the Roman Catholic church would mean compromising some of my beliefs . That is not acceptable to me or for that matter to God! There is only one church and what we find in the Roman Catholic church is a corrupt hierarchy ruling the common believer with threats that if they interpret the scriptures for themselves they will be cursed by the very church they are told to believe in!
The verse used to convince the common believer that scripture is not to be interpreted privately is found in 2 Peter 1:20 and if that verse was all the context, it would certainly appear to say exactly that , however the context is not about private interpretation of a believer it is about God giving us His word in written form.
2 Peter 1:20 knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. 21 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
Jesus started the church and He called it " MY CHURCH" Man comes along influenced by satan and decides the church must have a name? Not one church in the entire new testament had a name. St Ignatius called the church Catholic and somewhere around 300AD the Roman Catholic church started and in came doctrines that the early church did not have.
There is no salvation for anyone apart from Christ , but the RCC has stated that it is the ruling church and anyone outside of the RCC can not be saved! Do we go by what scripture says or do we choose the church over God's written word?
2 Tim 3:15-17 clearly tells you what Paul considers God's word, the scriptures are for . Yes, at that time the scripture referred to the old testament but as the new and old testaments do not conflict with each other that verse is now consistent with what we are to use scripture for.
Jesus started the Catholic church. Join
@@bobloblawb2593Catholics are born again through baptism. Take RCIA
@@johnyang1420 Jesus started the church which is the body of Christ not a named institution claiming to be the church.. Jesus did not make denominations and He did not condone the beliefs found in the roman Catholic church.
Pls.pray the rosary & devine mercy to free all countries from war, diseases, calamities, hunger, corruption, drugs, prostitution, abortion,homosexuality,divorce, vices and all evils.pls pray for peace and joy in all families and home.. . . . .
I used to be in the trap of non denominational, glad I came to catholicism
I'm not Catholic and I believe faith without works is dead but I am not saved because of my works. I'm saved because of Christ's finished work. Is this not what protestants teach? How is this not what the bible teaches?
“Faith without works is dead”. You said it! That’s what the Catholic Church teaches and if that’s what your church teaches and what you believe great! The issue is the vast majority of Protestant sects, with the exception of yourself, emphasize “faith alone” to exclude works. Regarding salvation, yes you are not saved by works alone, but by your faith in Jesus-A faith which encompasses Belief and WORKS, because as you said faith is hollow (dead) without the other. Hope this helps, God bless you
First off, it's hard to nail down what protestants teach because there are over 40,000 denominations and sects within protestantism, each with it's own set of doctrines and biblical interpretations. Like Tim said in the video, some protestant groups are moving back to an understanding of "faith AND works." That it is our faith in Christ that gives us the grace to do great works in His name, and bring His light to the world.
However, a lot of protestants (including Martin Luther himself) insisted that no works were required. In fact, Martin Luther famously said "If the mercy is true, you must therefore bear the true, not an imaginary sin. God does not save those who are only imaginary sinners. Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong (sin boldly), but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world." So not only did he preach against needing works WITH faith, he advocated for us to sin boldly because it was our faith alone. This, of course, ignores Jesus' own words in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." (many of his commandments through the New Testament being works-based; alms giving, loving our neighbor as He loved us, praying for our enemies, evangelizing all nations would be a few examples.)
Jesus also said, "Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood, you will not have life within you." Protestants don't agree on what that means. They have a false, man-made "church" without the Body and Blood of Christ
@@wms72 Lutherans believe in transubstantiation just like Catholics do. Luther was a Catholic priest before they kicked him out.
@@DarrylCross you mean 1000 not 40000
1. Our, absolute, GREATEST works are as filthy rags before the LORD (Isaiah 64 : 6). We receive salvation and are justified through Christ, alone.
2. Yes. True faith is accompanied by some form of "works." To be an apple tree one must produce, at least, one apple or it's lying. However, we can never deserve anything but eternal damnation aside from what God accomplished in Jesus Christ. FULLY trusting in Him, ALONE, is true faith in the Gospel; Which IS Salvation. No matter what we do, no one is worthy on their own (Ephesians 2 : 8 - 9). What our thanksgiving inspired works earns us are 1 or more of the "5 Crowns" of Heaven described in Scriptures. And even these should all, humbly, be placed at His feet anyway. There are too many verses to list the crowns here, but look them up on your own.
3. God has always forbidden His people from partaking in the pagan, demon-inspired practices / symbolisms of other peoples. We do NOT incorporate these things into our practices just to make things more palatable for pagans in order to lure them into the congregation. Scriptures say that God's elect are a "peculiar" people who are "strangers" and "pilgrims" in this world. The mitre hats, pinecone statues, burning incense, etc... I could go on for hours. How dare we present filth before the LORD?! Would a man's wife want a ring that was designed to the liking of her husband's mistress?.. Even IF he cleaned it up and wanted to present it to his wife. No! She would scoff at the very notion.
4. One of the 10 Commandments forbids making and honoring graven images of anything in heaven, on Earth, or beneath the waters... Lest we, ignorantly, honor things made by human hands out of wood, stone, and metal instead of He who made these materials themselves.
5. There is only ONE "Holy Father" and He is above all things! Amen... "Potentate" is used ONCE in the entire Holy Bible... 1 Timothy 6 : 15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and ONLY Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords"
6. As virtuous as Mary was there is no intercession thru anyone other than Christ. If ANYONE could live their entire life without sin, the LORD Himself wouldn't have needed to come and be the final propitiation for mankind (Isaiah 53 : 6). Even the veil of the old temple was rent in two. God has now given us direct access to Him in the Holy Ghost that guides and lives in us. We the believers are the "church." The following Scripture references ancient pagan goddess worship (Asherah among many other names) ; Which still goes on till this day... Jeremiah 7 : 18 "The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the QUEEN OF HEAVEN, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."
7. The true "Church" belongs to Jesus Christ. There is no one good or Holy but Him. There is no person or group of people that can tell another that they are not a part of His church (Excommunicated, Disfellowshiped, etc...). I'm not speaking of those with a "reprobate mind" who would, obviously, NOT be seeking God, holy fellowship, and deliverance from a sinful spiritual stronghold anyway. We were purchased with the price of His blood, and wholly belong to Him... Romans 8 : 38 - 39 "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
John 10 : 28... "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."
There are other doctrinal issue that I could address, but this is enough for now. May the Holy Ghost lead us into all truth and righteousness, in Jesus' name. Amen.
Amen and Amen
Lying is a sin.
@@isrberlinerin4063 And you go agreeing with Protestant lies.
@@georgepierson4920 And you self-righteous catholic are in bondage to a diabolical Roman Mother Mary Cult and you would not recognize The Truth even if it would bite you in your nose . The Jewish Jesus Christ Savior and Lord (not the Roman manufactured one) said : I am The Truth , The Way , The Life and No One comes to the Father but by Me .
The Roman Catholic Religion is Satans Masterpiece and he is lying to you every day and since you have no spiritual discernment you believe his lies . You of all people call others liars , how pathetic . I suggest that you take the big log you have in your eyes out , so you may see more clearly .
@@georgepierson4920 Let those that are without SIN throw the first stone ..... You pious catholics never lie , you only believe in Satan's big religious lie and you regurgitate that lie every day and then have the nerve to call others liars . You need to get a grip on The Biblical Truth !
“Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.” Galatians 2:16.
“For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.” Romans 3:28.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9
Brandon Becker so beautifully put, bless you Brandon.
AMEN!
nosuchthing8 study church history sir. The apocrypha was never in the original cannon.
nosuchthing8 can you identify what books? And how exactly those books got in the cannon?
nosuchthing8 we know based on what we know the Jews considered cannon throughout their history, and it was never any of the apocrypha. The apocrypha were around, but they weren’t considered divinely inspired by any Jews, or by Jesus and the believers in the New Testament. How many pieces from the apocrypha are quoted by Jesus and the apostles? Oh yeah, zero. Why? They weren’t canonical, they weren’t Gods word.
As a Catholic, I feel like Protestants think that Catholics believe they are saved by works ALONE. Of course not! The works don’t count if they are not rooted in faith in love. God bless anyone reading this comment.
Have you done enough works???
What do you mean your a Catholic, Catholic means universal, that is someone who belongs to a universal church, it doesn't mean the protestant church or the Roman church. So think about it, what are you ?
Romans 11:6 and if by grace then it is no more of works, otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace, otherwise work is no more work.
Actually, according to the Council of Trent, the doctrine of Grace is anathemized, and the Roman church believes its adherents are saved through the Eucharist and sacraments.
@@franciscoscaramanga9396 that is u biblical. Read Romans 1-5 and you will see why salvation is based on faith and belief for righteousness.. not rudiments of the world. There's a lot of ways the Catholic Church is simply wrong, just like the Methodist Baptist and pentacostals churches are incorrect. There's a difference between the truth and religion.
Justification by faith is correct. The fruits of good works are 'indicators' that shows that you are on the right tract, they don't save you.Jesus does.
What is your understanding of the Catholic position on this?
@@patrickoconnor9700 You mentionef the church thst was at Antioch, that ' s not the catholic church. Is it?
@@lawrencechiam7476 Why wouldn't it be the Universal church?
Probsbly a Syrian church.
@@patrickoconnor9700 the Catholic church is the church of Christ
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace(A) you have been saved,(B) through faith(C)-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works,(D) so that no one can boast.(E)
Isaiah says our good work in the eyes of God is filthy rags.. if good work can lead us to salvation then Jesus died in vain.....
Read Ephesians 2:10
indeed
I don't understand what you're all talking about..🤣😜... Who is teaching that everybody will get their salaries even without working??? So God gives you grace, and faith and that's free...so what now??? You work only on the end you say your work is useless, you are not save by works, if that is the kind of faith that you have....ok...fine...SIT and SLEEP then...😋🤣😜
That doesn't disprove works
@@anthonycalipjo8669 the catholic church is the church of Jesus Christ
The Church Jesus creates was his followers. Not a building
@Apostolic Nuncio to Kekistan actually the church is not a building we as Christains are the church
@Apostolic Nuncio to Kekistan We are the bride (church) and the groom is Christ
Ephesians 2:9
And not by works, lest any man should boast??
Did y’all just skip over that one????
No, we read the Bible by Chapter and not by Verse.
Only prots pretexters read the Bible by verse and use it against caths.
@@FJhei I'm considering joining the Catholic Church but to be honest, there are just as many instances where Catholics pick and choose verses (and avoid other verses) to match their doctrine.
@@boblob2003 how did you say that? Did you already join holy mass and ask priest? Or just finding a hole in the church's teaching?
@@carlmabiog Yes I have as a matter of fact. I'm not here to be critical or insult anyone, I'm just making an observation based on my knowledge of Scripture. A lot of the comments here are not very Christ-like, which is sad.
boblob2003
Keep studying the inconsistencies
Hebrews 11:6 God is a rewarded of those who diligently seek him!
I am a proud catholic from Philippines.
LGBTQ is supported in your country.
@@peace2033 so?
How many good works do YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE SAVED ?
Works is plural, so more than one.
😅hi I'm from Indonesia.
But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness Romans 4:5
It is not you that work, it is God within you, that glorifies His Father. God is holy alone. Christ in you, can begin a work. Hello sheep...Have a nice day.
Love it
@@chrisgagnon5768 I love you.
@Matthew Telle The context is; we are saved, made right with God, by grace through faith, not by our works.
Do you understand what this means? This is pertaining to Jewish law. The law as in circumcision/uncircumcision, things to eat/ things not to eat, things…….ceremonial laws etc.
Matthew 12:3-8 KJ21
But He said unto them, "Have ye not read what David did when he hungered and they that were with him: [4] how he entered into the house of God and ate the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for those who were with him, but only for the priests? [5] Or have ye not read in the law how on the Sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath and are blameless? [6] But I say unto you, that in this place is One greater than the temple. [7] But if ye had known what this meaneth, 'I will have mercy and not sacrifice,' ye would not have condemned the guiltless. [8] For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath day."
Matthew 15:2-11 KJ21
"Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread." [3] But He answered and said unto them, "Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? [4] For God commanded, saying, 'Honor thy father and mother,' and, 'He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.' [5] But ye say that whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, 'by whatsoever thou might have profited by me, it is a gift,' [6] and honor not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. [7] Ye hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, [8] 'This people draweth nigh unto Me with their mouth, and honoreth Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. [9] But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.'" [10] And He called the multitude and said unto them, "Hear and understand: [11] Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man, but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."
Matthew 15:17-20 KJ21
Do ye not yet understand that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the drain? [18] But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and they defile the man. [19] For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: [20] these are the things which defile a man. But to eat with unwashed hands defileth not a man."
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PAUL s words
Romans 2:1-10 KJ21
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art who judgest; for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself, for thou that judgest doest the same things. [2] But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who commit such things. [3] And thinkest thou this, O man, who judgest those who do such things and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? [4] Or despisest thou the riches of His goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? [5] But because of thy hardness and impenitence of heart, thou treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the Day of Wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, [6] who will render to every man according to his deeds: [7] to those who by patient continuance in welldoing seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; [8] but unto those who are contentious, and do not obey the truth but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, [9] tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man who doeth evil, upon the Jew first and also upon the Gentile; [10] but glory, honor and peace to every man who worketh good, to the Jew first and also to the Gentile.
*What does he say about those who worketh good?
*what does he say about those who do not OBEY the truth but OBEY unrightousness???
Romans 2:12-14 KJ21
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law. [13] (For it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. [14] For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, they, not having the law, are a law unto themselves,
What’s that? The doers of the law will be justified???
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Romans 6:1-16 KJ21
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? [2] God forbid! How shall we, who are dead to sin, live any longer therein? [3] Know ye not that as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death? [4] Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. [5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His death, so we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, [6] knowing this: that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. [7] For he that is dead is freed from sin. [8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, [9] knowing that Christ, being raised from the dead, dieth no more; death no more hath dominion over Him. [10] For in that He died, He died unto sin once; but in that He liveth, He liveth unto God. [11] Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. [12] Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. [13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin, but yield yourselves unto God as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. [14] For sin shall not have dominion over you, for ye are not under the law, but under grace. [15] What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid! [16] Know ye not that to whomever ye yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants ye become whom ye obey, whether of sin which leads unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Again OBEDIENCE to CHRIST
Romans 6:21-22 KJ21
What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. [22] But now, being made free from sin and having become servants of God, ye have your fruit unto holiness and the end, everlasting life.
It is especially on this matter that we as Orthodox Christians truly stand with our Latin brothers and sisters.
Catholicism isn't orthodox....it's apostasy
Hi, I noticed your comment regarding Orthodoxy. I've never seen a member of an Orthodox before but, may I ask which Orthodox Church do you attend? I'm eager to know about them
@@dieselcowboy777 why would you say that? Just asking
@Domagoj Golubić well they aren't gnostics because the gnostics were said to know the mysteries and no catholic can explain the mysteries and that includes the mystery of the godhead
dieselcowboy777 and who said they can comprehend God? As if God can be reduced to mere concepts
How about the criminal who was crucified, along with Jesus in Luke 23:40-43? He got saved right? He got saved because of God's grace through his faith not by his works. Good works is the result of salvation. Read Ephesians 2:8-9 as well you'll see on that verse that, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - NOT BY WORKS, so that no one can boast." Also in Isaiah 64:6 stated that "All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our RIGHTEOUS ACTS are like FILTHY RAGS; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." So we will see here that our good works are just filthy rags before God. You will only be saved through faith then good works will follow as a result of your salvation.
Luke 23:40-43
-But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong." Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom."
Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."
Almighty God od knows everything about all of us. It is very possible that the good thief had done many good things in the past and when being cruxcifed, he obviously repented while the other thief might have also done good things in the past, did not repent.
@@juans6639 we cannot earn our salvation by doing good deeds as stated in Ephesians 2 it is the Apostle Paul himself who wrote it, salvation is freely given, it is God's grace to us through faith in Christ alone, that is the Good News of the Lord Jesus Christ, good works is the by product of your salvation it is the good fruit that will come after you got saved. If you are doing good to earn your way to heaven then that is not the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only way, the truth, and the life as stated in John 14:6, he didn't say that "I and your good works is the way to the Father." It is in Christ alone that we can be saved we cannot add or deduct anything from the Scriptures.
Amen!!!
Thanks for preaching Truth!
@@mole215 I agree, God's grace is undeserved, unmerited, unearned favour this is something we cannot earn through our good works, it is freely given by God to those who believe. Justification through faith alone in Christ alone is biblical, I don't see the reason why the title of the video says that protestant's doctrine of salvation is unbiblical, they were saying faith alone is not enough to be justified they were saying that faith plus works is the way for us to be justified but the Scriptures says a different thing it is stated throughout the Bible that we are justified through faith alone in Christ Jesus (Romans 3:28, Romans 5:1, Habakkuk 2:4, Galatians 2:21, Galatians 2:16). In the verse he stated Romans 2:7 it sets up a contrast between those who are changed by God’s grace and live for Him and those who reject His salvation and truth (verse 8), In Romans 2:7, those who “by persisting in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality” are those who have genuinely trusted in Jesus Christ for salvation, by grace through faith. And in James 2:14-26 sometimes taken out of context in an attempt to create a works-based system of righteousness, but that is contrary to many other passages of Scripture. James is not saying that our works make us righteous before God but that real saving faith is demonstrated by good works. Works are not the cause of salvation; works are the evidence of salvation. Faith in Christ always results in good works. The person who claims to be a Christian but lives in willful disobedience to Christ has a false or dead faith and is not saved. It is clear that the Scriptures don't support justification by works but through faith alone in Christ Jesus, works are evidence not the cause of our justification.
Juan S Wow talk about clutching at straws there!
Catholicsm isn’t biblical. Where’s purgatory where’s rosary. Why do you worship a graven image of Mary?
We protestants live by faith and our teaching is based in the Bible alone.
If Catholics are biblical, why then Catholics are not well versed in the Bible. This is not a hearsay but a fact because I live in a Catholic community, my relatives are Catholics ,my wife and in-laws are all Catholics... They are not interested In the Bible and even I will open the bible for them they will deny it for reason that they don't need the Bible because they are good men and women and doesn't do anything wrong.
And mind you, these are all highly educated persons.
Where’s the sinners prayer? Where’s the trinity? Where does it say everything we are taught as Christians has to only directly come from the bible? Where does it say to pray to the Holy Spirit! I can go on and on but remember the Church came first and compiled the bible in 380AD
alpha Omg -- Same thing with my family.
George Ibrahim - I only follow the word of God. The Bible tells us not to follow doctrines of men. Matthew 15:9
Brother faith comes first it’s obvious but your works is defined by how much faith you have. Eventually the holy spirit thats in you will do the good work that you’re talking about.
And? What's your problem? If you don't have faith then you cant perform good works, right? So indeed you need good works. Do you not understand?
Francis powell
You sound like a Muslim
@@TheRealFrank0 to give you an analogy, if you are sick you cannot do good works. Unless you are healed you cannot do good works like cleaning the house.
Asa Thurstone Thus even faith, if it does not have works, is dead, in and of itself -James 2:17
@Asa Thurstone You added the words "alone" they do not exist in this passage. I kindly ask you to take them out right now.
How about Galatians 2 verse 16: "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified."
Correct Mario - they would rather try to twist James 2 out of its own socket to make it fit the apostate RCC....
@@HenriettaMRiley - and what, would you say is the correct meaning of James 2:24? "You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone" Martin Luther hated the book of James and that is because of verses like this one. He said he sometimes felt like burning the book of James. The Justification by faith alone was his own opinion. and so he rejected any part of the bible that disproved it.
Catholics would totally agree with this verse. We are justified (initially entering into salvation) through faith in Christ alone and His cross. Though after we receive such justification through faith we must do good works because without them our faith is dead, and cannot save us if it is dead.
@@travislariscy4466 Absolutely correct.
Faith generates the good works.....but to say that good works grants us the salvation is not correct.
Good works is the 'fruits' of our faith, not the other way around.
Here is what God thinks of when he sees our good works...
Isa 64:6 - a dirty soiled menstrual rag.....sorry not my words but His.
@@HenriettaMRiley Henrietta, thanks for your response but I am not discrediting the Catholic Church and neither should you. We have the New Testament of the Bible thanks to the Catholic Church. The Catholics were spreading the Gospel throughout the world for centuries before Protestants ever existed. Catholics worked endless hours hand-writing the Bible and translating the Bible. Are there corrupt Catholics? Yes. Has the Catholic church gone through periods of corruption? Of course they have. The Catholic Church has been around for 2,000 years and led by imperfect men of flesh and blood. There's also much corruption in the thousands of different Protestant denominations. Why? Because the Protestant churches are also led by imperfect men and women of flesh and blood. The Catholic Church is the church that Jesus founded through the Apostle Peter and is filled with traditions that were practiced by the people that actually knew our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Again, that Bible that you read and that you use as a guide for your faith and knowledge of God, was assembled from many, many religious writings that were considered holy during the early years. The Catholic Church, solely had the task of picking and choosing the books that ended up in your Bible. Martin Luther just removed a few that he didn't like but the ones that remained were still the ones that the Catholic Church picked in the first place. Even though Martin Luther was far removed from Jesus by 1,500 years, he thought he knew better than his predecessors that were chronologically closer to Jesus. I'm not putting down Martin Luther. There was corruption in the Catholic Church during his time and he did what he felt he needed to do.
Ephesians 2:8 and Romans 5:1 has left the chat..
Stick to Ephesians 2 and Roman's 5 so that they can join the chat..
Ephesians 2:9.. not by works!?
@@adamjones6473 prots always pretexting.
LOL.
@@adamjones6473 not by works no, but by faith
@@FJhei just wanting to spread biblical truth without taking verses out of context 👍
Just what works did the thief on the cross do. He was saved by his faith.
Now read James 2:14 where the man has faith but no works. The question is “can this man’s faith save him”? The answer biblically is NO
@@charis128 Stop... I see this so often.... Even protestants do this, and they're doing this with the rapture. Here's another thing that you are butchering with this passage..... READ THE CONTEXT.
THREE verses later, he explains what he means by " In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."
"You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[a]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[b] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone."
Abraham was doing GOD'S will. If we do God's will, we will get greater "rewards"... that's the idea, not according to what man defines as good or bad. The Bible says what is good and what is bad, but it doesn't command us to do the good, it just tells us not to do the bad and to have faith. Otherwise, it would just being giving us half instructions. Your interpretation to the road to salvation: do deeds... uhh ok what deeds?
If we say "I believe in God" but turn around and DECIDE to sin, the salvation is voided. Contrarily, if we say "I believe in God" and preach the gospel as so, you are putting into action what you preach, and doing God's will. But even so, REFRAINING from sin is the same as a "deed" in this context, because he's referring to practicing what you believe. If you say you have faith, then you must follow up that statement with your actions by not sinning because the God you believe in says not to. If you sin willingly, either 1. You doubt his existence 2. You are okay with sin 3. You are just taking advantage of his grace etc... BUT EVEN THEN, HE STILL FORGIVES YOU... but you HAVE TO REPENT and not do it again by figuratively cutting off the hand that causes you to sin.
James is saying to keep your word and not be a hypocrite. The demons believe in God... but their deeds are nefarious. James' definition of a deed is an action or the lack of action. So your salvation is based off of faith (John 3:16) and actions or inaction, depending on if they go against God's law.
Question 1: How many good deeds must you complete to attain salvation? 1? 7?
Question 2: If there is a paraplegic man born blind and dumb who literally cannot do anything but believe in God. Is he condemned because he cannot do any "works"? Or is he saved because God has MERCY and GRACE?
Catholicism's God is different from what the Bible preaches plain and simple. It's not a religion issue, it's man not having a relationship with God. You need to repent and pray directly to God and read your bible.
Stop taking scripture and ignoring the context in order to fulfill your doctrine based off of poor interpretation and comprehension.
@@antrodaze910i think many protestants misunderstood whats the difference between salvation and justification. Salvation can be possible for us only by the Grace of our Father. All christians believe it included catholic. We are all saved by the Grace. BUT, to be saved you need to be justified first. Catholic teaches that justification isnt a single proses but an on going-until-death process. In that process, we are DAILY justified by our FAITH which is CONFESSED and SHOWN through our deed. We have to work on our salvation (Phil 2:12-13, James 2:14-16). So your question on how many good deeds to be justified? The answer isnt a quantity matter but the quality matter. You "do" good as long as you have faith because only by that you have faith! How about the blind? Do you even say that blind people cant do good? I dont know how's that question even logical.
By the end of time, in the judgement day, we are all JUDGED according to our DEEDS (Rev 20:12). Then now, how come u say our deed isnt important? If it only takes "faith" why wouldt scripture says that at the judgement all who "believe" in jesus will directly go to heaven? Why jesus even say not those who call upon Me, Lord, lord but those who DO the will of My Father? 😉
How were Noah and his children saved? They not only had faith in the ark, but they actually entered it, kept provisions and persevered to sit in it.
BT Noah and his children were saved by baptism (water + spirit). 1 Peter 3:21
Faith is that which brings the Holy Spirit through the merits of Christ". ... All have sinned and are justified freely, without their own works and merits, by His grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, in His blood (Romans 3:23-25). This is necessary to believe.
WITHOUT THEIR OWN WORKS OR MERITS
Yeah he ignores the most blatant verse on this topic.
Describe what is necessary to believe?
@Bin Sam Epehsians 2:8,9 By grace are you saved through faith and not of yourselves. It is a gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.
I think paul is talking about works of the law, not Good works
Born Raised Staying and Dying Catholic love my catholic faith
Some Catholics will go to heaven but no one in heaven will be Catholic.
@@endtimesareuponus8930what does that even mean?
@@jacobalexander4167 use your brain if you have one
Lots of evangelicals and protestants do not agree with abortion.
Annette Murphy -- If they agree with abortion you can tell they are not Evangelicals, Protestants. I’m Evangeical Protestant and I can guarantee you100% We do not support abortion. Nancy Pelosi says she’s Catholic, but she supports abortion.That is why I thought Catholics supported abortion. See how one powerful person like N. Pelosi makes Catholics look bad. If it wasn’t for this video I would have continue to believe that Catholics approve of abortions.
One thing I don’t agree with is that Catholics and Evangelicals attack one another. Why what’s the point, after all God is the only one judge of all. We should not be arguing over religion or try to show off that one is wiser than another.
I agree...I dont know of any evangelicals at all that agree with abortion ! I've been around allot of conservatives and I just doubt see it
Advant Garde -- AGREED100%
I think Catholics and Fundamentalist Protestants agree on the evil of abortion.
Protestants do not believe you are saved by faith, this is not what Luther was teaching. Protestants believe you are saved by GRACE alone, through faith, alone, in Christ alone. Ephesians 2: 8-9.
What Ephesians is saying is that all are saved because no one is worthy.
You forgot to continue on to EPH 2: 10
"For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them." EPH 2:8-10 distinguishes between boastful works which are meaninglessness to God and meritorious good works which are pleasing to God. We are saved by works and faith made possible by God's grace. Not by faith alone. Not by works alone.
one cannot save onself. we need Christ's work on the cross and His grace in order for us to do good works which are pleasing to God. This is Scripture and Catholicism follows this. Protestants think that Catholicism teaches that we can save ourselves. WRONG. We can't.
@@ligiaklaver90 We are NOT saved by works in any shape or form.
If you have faith and take no action, why should God give you everlasting life? Or even worse, if you have faith but do more evil than good and are unrepentant, then why should God give you everlasting life?
There is an innate change that results in good works, in those who come to believe. But it does not save you. Otherwise we do not need Christ.
Your works will not match the grace of God. Your works can never make God more "God". Your works are nothing. They are privileges of grace. Because you have been given, you can give and not "have to give". There is a difference between a giver who gives because he has to and a giver who gives because he has been given. For the former, giving is a requirement but for the latter, giving is a privilege of having received a gift.
If you are a person with special needs and has no chance to do good actions that would guarantee your definition of everlasting life, will God save you?
The thief whom Jesus Christ promised paradise did not even have a single chance to work because He died like Him. If we are going to look at works as our way to be saved and not the grace of God portrayed through dying of the cross, we would make Jesus Christ a liar and unfair to all of us.
God is not like that. He is the God of justice so He gave His only begotten Son to serve that.
Who are you to think that your works can match what Christ did on the cross? You, His creation can fill what He did on that cross? No amount of good works or action can add to the grace He gave. Such boastfulness to think that our works are everything! They are nothing!
Are we going to do good work?
A man who loves and has faith is justified by His works. A man moved by the Holy Spirit does not look at work as a requirement to everlasting life, but a privilege to do good because he received grace.
Let us change our mindset of work here. They are nothing compared to His dying on the cross. Our good actions here on earth will not earn us an everlasting life. They will testify of God's goodness to us. They will testify to other people that God is a good God because they see that in your works.
We are all living testimonies of the God that we believe in.
Exactly, and at the end God will separate the sheep from the goat according to their works
How much faith do you really have if you are not doing good works or if you are consistently doing more evil than good?
Isn’t that what the scripture is saying: “faith without works is dead”?
“That’s how the church functioned for 1500 years...”
...except for that one big schism that happened around 1050 AD, but we just don’t talk about that.
Also, referring to history when asked about the *biblical* basis for belief is something I see Catholics refer to a lot to argue against Protestantism. I don’t care for appeals to history or tradition, as those are man-made structures. Slavery was (and in some places still is) the norm for most of human history. Does that make it true, just, or moral?
History and tradition do not define truth. Rather, they reflect man’s belief about truth. That does not prove truth.
@Robert Hirst All Tim is saying is that because of Matt 16:18, everything the Catholic church teaches is synonymous with truth. Not because Jesus said it, but because of the men in a certain organization who came after Jesus said it. This is the Sola Scriptura of Catholicism - -everything they teach as "truth" is based on Matt 16:18.
Even before the schism in 1500 there was many churches and they weren't ruled by Roman catholic church, some things like pope supremacy are doctrines very new
@@joeoleary9010 catholic it's not the same as Roman catholic, it's the same with protestant called Christians there are Christians but they aren't all the Christians. Roman catholics are catholics but they aren't all the catholics
You do realize that the Bible is a part of history, right?
@@matiastolmo8936 nope, the office of the pope goes back to Peter.
I grew up around protestants. when God met me and starting to transform my life I’ve been to a few churches and encourage people read all 73 books of the Bible. I belong to Christ now and I pray for unity among His church (as He does in John 17).
The Apocrypha was man made and JESUS NEVER TAUGHT IT. It was denied early on then Catholics brought it up. And it contradicts the Bible.
Exactly God bless you
Brother I've come to the same conclusion, I did 5 months of Prayer and Research and even wore Sackcloth and Fasted and was in Prayer, I read all 7 Dueterocannonical Books and I did research into The Early Church and The Reformation.
And all I can say is is that The Reformation Is at a huge fault Tobit, Judith, Sirach, Baruch, Wisdom, 1&2 Maccabees ARE THE WORD OF GOD
Council of Rome, Carthage and Hippo. Every single complete or partially complete Christian Bible up to the 16th century includes the Dueterocannon in one way or another
I'm Non-denominational, but I utterly refuse the title "Protestant" The Reformation itself had Heresy and led to even more Heresy and it divided The Body of Christ it caused alot more harm than it did good.
There’s more than 73 books.
@@ChillingandVibingToLife yeah but there not inspired by God. They have flaws in them and don’t point to Jesus. They are not the breathed our word of God.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith -and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast.
Not by works like the pharisees. By works you will be condemned not by faith alone.
@@MAP2023 show me where the rosary is in the Bible or calling a priest father..
@@chadlee243 show me in the Bible that the same paragraph nobody should be called Teacher. lol 😆 also Paul called himself a father for many. Read the Bible bro prot.
@@MAP2023 The reference is Matthew 23:8-10. This was in response to the behavior of the Pharisees, so meaning giving undue spiritual authority to a human being as if that person were the source of truth rather than God, individuals of pride and pretense like the pope.
@@MAP2023 Not by any works. All your works are as filthy rags. Salvation is by faith only. It is a gift by God's grace, unmerited, unearned.
I love to hear from people that were once protestant and converted to the catholic faith❤not that people that have always been catholic dont explain the faith well, but as someone that was raised protestant(non denom) and as someone that is learning and enjoying learning about the catholic faith it makes it relatable for me🙏 im finding i align alot with it
I was raised a strong Catholic and left cause Catholicism is CONTRARY to God's Holy Word.
@@endtimesareuponus8930bold statement cotton, let’s see if it pays off for him
@@endtimesareuponus8930
Then you don't know God's Word.
personal experience is not a good argument for any of these comments, only proof is. i believe in scripture because of historical evidence, not because of church authority. is there any actual historical evidence which supports sacred tradition (specific foretelling prophecy come true like in Daniel, Isaiah, Psalm 22 etc.)? bible does not support sacred tradition from what i see.
@@sponge6171
You: bible does not support sacred tradition from what i see.
Me: 2 Thess 2:15: Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold to the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word or our epistle.
The Bible in your hands could not exist without a table of contents or a canon. That canon which tells us which books are inspired by God was produced by the Tradition of the Catholic Church. Without tradition you have no bible.
As a Catholic convert who is raised Muslim. I never saw any value in Protestantism. It is too close to the Muslim ideology in the sense it is man made. It is too indulgent into the will and desire of Man. Catholic teaching is divine. Mass is divine. The rules are sometimes hard but there is authority and historical grounding. The early church etc. Protestantism is ever changing. It is easy to fall in to this trap. Mass is the central theme of Christianity.
Wouldn't Orthodoxy answer this argument better?
2:59 justification by faith .
Is justification by faith alone?
In relation to Sola Fide, the place of works is found in the second chapter of the Epistle to the Ephesians: Justification is by grace through faith, "not from yourselves" and "not by works". In other words, it is by faith alone since all human efforts are excluded here (Ephesians 2:8-9)
So you need to check what the fine man at the microphone is saying and make sure what he is saying is true or not.
Yes that is what protestants believe in you are saved through faith and through faith you do good acts
@@hottboy6712 Yes, works is not a salvation issue. It is an issue of your Christian life, your walk, your faithfulness and obedience. You are saved unto good works, not by good works.
A man is not saved by FAITH ALONE. Faith with out works is dead.
@@juanyer3646 Since you are chopping up a verse so the you get the roman Catholic version of events maybe you should read the scriptures as it states the truth.
James 1:1 who is James addressing?
James 2:14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
What was the work that the Jews had to have ? John 6:28 Jesus tells them exactly . verse 15 shows you that you can not believe in the Messiah and do nothing with that belief. This is not what the roman Catholic church wants you to see. What we do see in scripture is Eph 2: where by grace you are saved not by works . There is a definite statement of Not by works and the grace through faith is there with nothing attached to it.
@@bobloblawb2593 Exactly. Don't think R Cath much read scripture themselves. They seem to only know RCC selected verses to support RCC beliefs totally out of context of all other scripture. Also, they apparently are taught only their leaders are able to correctly interpret scripture, and RCC traditions aka manmade beliefs are of equal "infallible" authority to scripture. They totally reject sola scriptura and even call it unsupportable. Unbelievable!!
I would certainly disagree with Tim, though I am certain he would not want to hear me.
James 2 is not talking about how to get saved, but rather what indicates true saving faith has happened. The _result_ of such faith is works. Philippians 2:13 says that God works in us to desire to do God's will, AND to give us the ability to carry it out. Ephesians 2:8-10 makes it clear that Christians are most *certainly* saved by faith in Christ's death on the cross, _alone_ --but that we are created TO good works that God has pre-ordained for us to do.
Romans 3:28 "Romans 3:28 KJV - Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."
Romans 5:1 "Romans 5:1 KJV - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:"
'Do you want to be shown, you shallow man, that faith apart from works is barren? Good works in God’s grace are required for justification. But there is nothing in the Scriptures about “saving faith.” - James 2:20.
Titus 3:5--"not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit."
“Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly” - the founder your fake religion, and satan said amen
That's your interpretation. James doesn't say any of that. Equally you're isolating St Paul's words, he actually expands on that by saying Romans10 "For it is with your heart [so not mere belief] that you believe and are justified [not saved], and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.", which is clearly a work; and which Jesus mentions "If you deny me.....".
The fundamental problem is the lack of interpretive authority of Luther, Calvin etc when yet Jesus set up an authority in the office of Peter.
We are saved by Grace through Faith and that was the revelation Luther had . Of course you catholics always cite and interpret scripture to fit your catholic narrative . To say that all protestants follow unbiblical doctrines that is exactly what you catholics are guilty of . You catholics sitting in a Roman Glass House throwing stones ..........
We do not go around lying about the Catholic Church the way you Protestants do.
Everyone gets sooo hung up on salvation. But keep reading and you shall see It’s about LORDSHIP! It’s not a cheap Grace to see what we can GET but we are to be servants and serve him and be like Christ. He wants our entire being as we are to be followers of Him! He wants our obedience. “In that day many will say Lord Lord but didn’t I cast out demons in your name!?” “ Get away from me I never knew you!”
It is amazing how many passages he rips out of the correct flow of thought to come up with his doctrine. If we can gain salvation by our works then, according to Paul, Christ died for nothing! Gal 2.
@William Cloud The Catholic has admitted to be one in the body of the universal Church of satan over and over again.
perhaps you can define exactly what you mean ? The catholic believes what the church says and they are told that they can not interpret the scriptures for themselves .
The Catholic has admitted to be one in the body of the universal Church. They believe that the church is Catholic by name and by function , they do not believe they are part of satans church nor do I.
Lets make a distinction between the common catholic in the church and the hierarchy of the church that calls itself the church and makes the rules. They are two entirely different entities.
As a believer will you accept every word that comes out of the mouth of Benny Hinn? Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen , or will you go to the word for your beliefs ? What if you are told to listen to these three and not to interpret the scriptures on your own ? What will the result be?
@William Cloud liar
@Matthew Telle the Catholic church is the church of God
@Christopher Cowan Lol. No one is ripping anything out. No one says we gain salvation through our works. That is heresy of pelagianism condemed by the Catholic Church. We can be saved only by Jesus' sacrifice. We reach sanctity and are justified through Faith and good works done in the State of Grace, which would not be possible without Jesus and His Passion. Faith and works done in Grace only bring justification because God makes it possible and gives us His Grace. But just beliving without working in Grace cannot bring us to be justified. Jesus said that to be His friends we must do what God commands.
@@TheGeneralGrievous19 Hey General, good afternoon. I am not sure if you realize it, but your entire view here is a blatant contradiction. Salvation and justification are the same thing. The only way to be saved is to be justified before God. How does this come about? Romans 3:28, Romans 4:1-5, Galatians 3:10-11
"Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”" John 6:28-29. From the lips of Jesus. Works are the fruit of salvation not the cause of salvation. This is seen in type: Cain offered the works of his own hand and was rejected. Abel offered a blood sacrifice and was accepted.
Milan is absolutely correct. I grew up RC and now read and live according to the Bible. There's a lot I could say about RC doctrine but all you have to do is read the Bible to know the difference between RCism and Biblical Christianity. The reality is that RC's don't read their Bible and get duped by this kind of heretic. Works and Law to gain salvation bring nothing but pride and empty activity. Trust in Christ alone and you will receive the Holy Spirit who will direct you away from such non sense and yes create in you a desire to do good and server Jesus which will bring great rewards in this life and the next. But mostly his love and peace which no works can buy or pay for, it is a gift, praise God.
And to believe means to follow, then that is faith applied resulting in goods works. Same things as when you believe in a leader figure like a coach or a mentor, you don't know him that much yet but you have faith that he/can help you achieve the results you want & so you believe in him & follow his instructions which produce the work
I don't think that man understands the central message of the bible
I read the same bible and came out with a different conclusion than he did
Thank you though
The Paul he quotes says different things all together
GRACE WITH WORKS IS NO LONGER GRACE
@C Xtzin
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
*Catholics can never explain why BIBLE says SALVATION IS NOT BY WORKS!*
*BIBLE SAYS CHRISTIANS ARE SAVED NOT BY WORKS, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST*
( Only unbelievers and Jews under Mosaic Law are judged by works for salvation. Romans 2, Rev 20:13. Christians are saved by grace through faith, NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2:8-9. )
● 2 Tim 1:9 …. saved NOT according to our WORKS.
● Eph 2:8-9 … saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS.
● Titus 3:5 …. saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Gal 2:16 …. not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED!
● Rom 4:6 … Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH
● Rom 11:6 … IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE
● John 3:16 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS!
● Acts 16:30-31 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS!
● Eph 2: 8-9 … salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS!
● Rom 4:1-2 … justified NOT BY WORKS!
● Rom 4:3 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:4 … WORKS are debts
● Rom 4:5 … he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED
● Rom 4:5 … God justifies the ungodly,
● Rom 4:5 … FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:8 … imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS!
● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS!
● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS!
● Rom 4:11 … Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH
● Rom 4:14-15 … Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation.
● Rom 4:22 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:22 … RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS!
● Gal 2:16 … justified not by Works of the Law, but BY FAITH IN CHRIST!
● Gal 2:21 … if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.
● Gal 3:1-5 … Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)?
● Gal 3:1-5 … Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law?
● 2 Cor 5:21 … GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD.
● 1 Pet 2:24 … Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS)
● John 1:29 … Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS)
● Luke 23:43 … the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS!
Take RCIA
@@johnyang1420 *IgnoramusintelxeroJohnnyYang is back!!!*
@@johnyang1420 *RCs failed to answer once again. If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.*
- submit to Roman pope to be saved
- devote to Roman Mary to be saved
- be in Roman Church to be saved
- partake Roman sacraments to be saved
- baptise in Roman baptism to be saved
- do lots of works to be saved
As a devout Roman Catholic, thank you for this channel!!! I appreciate their are some kind, beautiful, personable ppl who can also be an apologist for the Faith
Aaha lost soul
@@infinitx1330 you are mistaken brother
@@tatoon34 please tell me how so I can correct it.
@@infinitx1330 believe on this John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
@@infinitx1330 Bible Gateway Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
Ephesians 2:8-9 ' For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast'. Salvation is entirely by the death of Jesus, his burial and resurrection, and NOT ONE MORE THING. Works is like filthy rags to God in regards to SALVATION. AFTER we are saved, we are rewarded for our obedience (works) to the commands of God Almighty. James was writing to BELIEVERS who have already been saved by Grace through faith, James is saying that after salvation, the evidence of faith is works. Hebrews 11:1 Now 'faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen'.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:8 KJV
That’s precisely what happens in the sacraments of the Catholic Church. The sacraments of the Catholic Church are describing scripture as the faith of Christ. It is in the sacraments of the Catholic Church that we are saved by grace because of the faith we proclaim in the name of Jesus Christ.
@@mdechristi so you earn God's grace?
@@tomh3721 What does this say?
Matthew 19:21Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
What do you think? Does that treasure in heaven refer to some form of grace? Now, let's see, what about this?
Luke 11:41But rather give alms of such things as ye have; and, behold, all things are clean unto you.
We give alms and all things are clean. To what is that a reference, if not to justification by means of works?
Oh and of course:
James 2:24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified....
So, does St. James say that a man earns the grace of justification?
@@mdechristi this ofcourse begs the questions.. What is grace? An unearnt favour of God.. So we see a recurring theme in the scripture that salvation is by grace through faith. The verse from the book of James is interesting because its where it mentions works in relation to salvation, but that wouldn't fit with the recurring theme of faith alone. So what does James mean by this? In can only be that those fruits are a sign of our "living faith" as opposed to "dead faith" by saying you can earn your own salvation is utterly ridiculous. This theme is evident in both old and new testament
Galatians 2:16
"yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified."
@@mdechristi Stop over complicating it. Salvation is a free gift from God. End of story.
How can you go from saying, "Jesus didn't give us the Bible, He gave us the Church" to using Scripture to establish the Church's authority? The whole point of the video is about how Protestants go against Scripture. And yes, the Church has authority. That's a big part of it's purpose. But, that doesn't mean it has authority over God's Word. And when the Church judges these conflicts, are they not to use Scripture to do so? It seems you are saying we should view Scripture through the lense of the Church as opposed to the Church through the lense of Scripture.
How can we have consistency if we have to rely on humans when humans disagree with each other and even change their own minds quite often? Does the Gospel change? What about if one pope disagrees with his predecessor or successor?
If the scripture was complete and full then you could give it to any group of two or more people anywhere in space or time and allow them to use it to sort things out and with a fair reading you'd expect the same result every time.
If it's not full and complete and requires constant human oversight and adjustment and amendment then it's not worth basing a religion on.
@@mattallred Nope! Humans are sinners and no one follows Scripture perfectly. We follow Scripture to varying degrees and some don't attempt to do so at all. Although personal Bible study is important, I agree that it's important to also study in community with others. Two people in isolation would not benefit from being in a larger group of mature and growing believers who would help them understand Scripture better and avoid heresy. This is why we have preachers and teachers and are commanded to meet together. (They could obviously only meet with each other.) But, we all have some heretical beliefs, because at best we are fallen creatures corrupted by sin studying with other maturing fallen creatures corrupted by sin. We will not achieve perfection on this earth. It is we who need adjustment, not Scripture.
And of course, some interpretation is necessary. It was written thousands of years ago over the course hundreds or thousands of years, in an entirely different culture and translated from a different language. We all have cultural lenses and don't even always recognize when we are looking through them. We can learn a lot from personal Bible study, but this is one of the reasons small group settings and larger corporate gatherings are so important. Others can show us our errors and provide insights they have gleaned that any individual may not pick up in personal study.
@@juanitadudley4788 in philosophical debate it is possible to consider a situation in which there are isolated individuals - I'm not talking about some guys sitting in a basement in Ohio, I'm talking in a logical hypothetical.
I myself am not a follower of Jesus and do not intend to become one but I'd imagine if God had gone through the trouble of establishing a kingdom on earth with his chosen people and giving his word to them and then fulfilling the prophecy through Jesus that it would have been for the reason of giving a definitive word - a finite law and final word.
If two space aliens arrived in the future and only found a single Bible and attempted to recreate the religion you'd assume they'd create something very similar, assuming otherwise implies that the faith is not catholic (full, universal, complete) but rather a bureaucratic legalistic system of amendment and human will. I just don't see the point if the religion cannot be made new again in the same likeness every day by a fair reading of the text.
You're concerned with what the Bible says when all catholic doctrine is unbiblical? The Bible forbids praying to dead people. The Bible says salvation is by faith in Christ alone, Catholics says anyone that believes that is anathema and teaches Faith plus works. Catholics say Mary is co-mediator with Christ, Bible says there is one mediator between God and man... Jesus. Bible says only Christ can forgive sins not priests, Bible says only Christ is infallible not the pope. But you're concerned with things that are unbiblical? LOL
J Pep salvation is by
"faith in Christ alone",
it may be implied , but DO NOT put in the word "ALONE" as it really is adding to God's word .
For those who spread lies about the Catholic Church: their ignorance is their lack of knowledge, their stupidity is their wisdom, and their truth is falsehood
In attacking the Catholic Church, Protestants sever their own roots
No protestant should quote Scripture at all, for he has no means of knowing which books are inspired; Unless of course, he wants to accept the authority of the Catholic Church for that
Jesus Christ founded a Church (Matthew 16:18). He did not command anyone to write a Gospel.
The Word of GOD is a person, and not a book (John 1:1,14).
The Catholic Church is based on the Word of GOD alone and not on Scripture alone.
the Bible came from the Church, and that the Church did not come from the Bible. The Catholic Church is the Mother of the Bible, not the Daughter.
THE BIBLE IS A CATHOLIC BOOK.
For those who deny that the Bible is a Catholic Book, the founder of Protestantism,
Martin Luther, concurred that the Bible is indeed a Catholic Book.
He had this to say:
"We are compelled to concede to the Papists that they have the Word of GOD, that we received it from them, and that without them, we should have no knowledge of it at all."
Martin Luther, commentary on St. John.
@@jacobcramer2853 . The Catholic Church is based on the Word of GOD alone and not on Scripture alone.
If the catholic church would base it's beliefs in scripture , it would have to change some doctrines. it is good that the catholic church does not believe the scriptures because they can then add what they wish with the admonition that they are the church and surpass scripture!
@@bobloblawb2593 your English is an abomination to my eyes. Please rephrase your argument.
Jesus started Catholic church. Google “Which church did Jesus start?” Catholic
We are saved by GRACE alone. Thinking of it otherwise is self-righteous. We can't earn our way into heaven. It's mercy granted upon lowly beings who, at their absolute best, are shamefully undeserving.
Amen!!!! Thanks for speaking out Truth!
My deeds are like filthy rags before the Lord, I but my trust in Jesus Christ my savior, amen,
Catholics don’t deny that. A core part of Catholic doctrine is that faith is fundamental to salvation. Works done without faith mean nothing to God. When Catholics say that works are part of salvation, they mean the works done through God’s grace. Works done through Gods grace can only be attributed to God.
@@onewholovesvenison5335 Salvation is by grace through faith. Good works follow as a result of a genuine believer as a born again christian
@@alexmarker881 faith alone is an easy ticket to heaven invented by martin Luther the man
Luke 23:39 One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!”
40 But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.”
42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[d]”
43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
Saved by faith alone. He wasn't baptised, never took communion and didn't do any good works after his declaration of belief in the Messiah.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Romans 11:6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.
Acts 16:31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
John 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
Romans 4:1-5 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,
Acts 10:43 To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Romans 10:9 Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.
undeniable
Case closed
Yes, faith is key, us Catholics believe that. But if you have faith and you continue to sin, you continue to offend God, you continue to be attached with the worldy things, do you truly believe and love Him? Cuz that's what I observed on most protestants, they think they can do whatever they want after professing that Jesus is their Lord and personal Savior. Remember, no filth can enter heaven. Those sinners whom Jesus saved in His time were cleansed by Him personally, afterwards they continued to live a Holy life. Same with the thief on the cross who believed Jesus, if he's given the chance to escape from the cross, I'm sure he'll change his ways and live a holy life, not to sin and follow Jesus heartily. So That's the point, have faith and change your ways, do not sin any longer, deny yourselves and follow Him
@@ite_ad_iosep That's exactly what I'm think. I don't think "Works" necessarily means charity but rather I think it's about 'Practicing what you preach.' Like as you said; you can't just claim Jesus as your lord and savior and still continue to live a sinful life.
"Saved by faith alone," you say. "He wasn't baptized, never took communion, and didn't do any good works," you claim. How do you know any of that?
Hm, excuse me? Read James 2 again... It obviously speaks about the quality of the faith not salvation by works. If the faith you have doesn't move you to do good deeds you don't have faith. You profess to have faith but don't live as Christian. That's what James is saying, the difference between living faith vs dead faith. Read the whole chapter.
We can test Abraham faith by his works when he offered Isaac at the altar, but it was not this action that saved him, it was his faith.
You can't buy your salvation. You can't make God save you.
Romans 3:22
22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood-to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. 28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
Ephesians 2
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
The words speak by themselves.
There is absolutely nothing you can to be more saved or less. You can be rewarded more or less but you are saved if you have true faith in Christ.
Also, the Roman Catholic Church is only dated to a few hundreds of years after Christ.
Wrong.
@@georgepierson4920 Ok, care to elaborate?
@@georgepierson4920 He is totally scripturally correct.
*Romanists can never explain why BIBLE says SALVATION IS NOT BY WORKS!*
*BIBLE SAYS CHRISTIANS ARE SAVED NOT BY WORKS, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST*
( Only unbelievers and Jews under Mosaic Law are judged by works for salvation. Romans 2, Rev 20:13. Christians are saved by grace through faith, NOT BY WORKS. Eph 2:8-9. )
● 2 Tim 1:9 …. saved NOT according to our WORKS.
● Eph 2:8-9 … saved by grace through faith NOT BY WORKS.
● Titus 3:5 …. saved NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Gal 2:16 …. not justified by WORKS OF THE LAW, BUT BY FAITH IN JESUS. BY WORKS OF THE LAW, NO MAN IS JUSTIFIED!
● Rom 4:6 … Blessedness Apart from WORKS! Imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS by FAITH
● Rom 11:6 … IF IT IS WORKS, IT’S NO LONGER GRACE
● John 3:16 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS!
● Acts 16:30-31 … saved by believing in Jesus. NOT WORKS!
● Eph 2: 8-9 … salvation is a GIFT. NOT WORKS!
● Rom 4:1-2 … justified NOT BY WORKS!
● Rom 4:3 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:4 … WORKS are debts
● Rom 4:5 … he who DOES NOT WORK is JUSTIFIED
● Rom 4:5 … God justifies the ungodly,
● Rom 4:5 … FAITH was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:8 … imputation of RIGHTEOUSNESS apart from WORKS!
● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham was made RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH BEFORE ANY WORKS!
● Rom 4:9-10 … Abraham received seal of RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH by imputation. NOT WORKS!
● Rom 4:11 … Promise to Abraham was through RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE FAITH
● Rom 4:14-15 … Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation.
● Rom 4:22 … Abraham believed (FAITH) and was accounted as RIGHTEOUSNESS
● Rom 4:22 … RIGHTEOUSNESS imputed on those who believed. Not those who WORKS!
● Gal 2:16 … justified not by Works of the Law, but BY FAITH IN CHRIST!
● Gal 2:21 … if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.
● Gal 3:1-5 … Paul said Christians who started by faith, why end up following WORKS of law (not only Mosaic laws)? Are you made perfect by flesh (WORKS)?
● Gal 3:1-5 … Did God do miracles by your faith believing or by your WORKS of law?
● 2 Cor 5:21 … GOD made Jesus who knew no sin to become sin for us, that we might become the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD.
● 1 Pet 2:24 … Christ (the Lamb of GOD) bore our sins … (NOT OUR WORKS)
● John 1:29 … Christ the Lamb of GOD who takes away the sins of the world ... (NOT OUR WORKS)
● Luke 23:43 … the thief at the Cross believed in Jesus and he was in Paradise thereafter. NOT WORKS!
Yeah nobody taught that grace through faith saves for the first 1500 years......
Ephesians 2:8-9
oh... well only Paul did!!!
Works is a symptom of faith and repentance.
And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.
1 John 2:3-6
yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
Galatians 2:16
You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works;
James 2:22
Can you show me that def of works in scripture?
Sorry to burst the Catholic bubble, but there are many, many errors in the Catholic faith. There are many things the book of Catechisms tells people they should do things that are never mentioned in actual scripture. I am a former Catholic and my conscience was seared because there is no truth in Catholicism. The more I read the Bible, the less Catholic I became. Your man-made traditions will not save you, not Mary or any saints. Jesus is the ONLY way to heaven and the Father.
It there are so many errors in the catholic faith how do you know she preserved your bible correctly? Why would you use the bible as your rule of faith that this church with so many errors as you describe which preserved the Holy Scriptures by laboriously hand coping them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press for the rest of the world to enjoy? Why?
Jesus started Catholic church. You are against it. Take RCIA to learn Catholicism from Catholic church. You are misinformed.
Protestant churches are man made.
What about Ephesians 2:8-9?
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
What about Ephesians 2:10? "For we are his workmanship, created unto Christ Jesus into good works...."
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh the order of events are very important in Ephesians 2:10, "created in Christ Jesus for good works." When we are in Chrst, this results in good works. Having good works does not result in being in Christ. I posted a more detailed comment if you want more details on this. Protestant affirm that faith must be coupled with obedience if it is true faith, but this follows salvation, it does not lead to salvation.
Romans 3:11 Not one of us is worthy to be saved.
Only so pure a lamb can save the sins of the many. If works can save, then why was Jesus slain? You are equating Jesus' sacrifice to the cross with your "sowing"? Who are you anyway? 😂 You? Us? No matter how hard we try, no amount of work can match the mercy and grace of God.
We work because we were given grace and not because it is what will save us.
Who are you anyway? 😂
A speck of dust in the universe but your works can save you or add to your salvation and add to what Christ did? You are making His sacrifice imperfect? Wow.
@kim burley I agree that one must be born again and then good works will follow, that is exactly what I tried to explain in my comment, that obedience to God's word is something that comes after salvation (regeneration, i.e. being born again) and that only happens through the Spirit of God. I understand the roman catholic view on this and fully disagree with them. The bible says we will be judged according to our works, but to say you are saved by your works is missing it completely, so amen to your comment, I agree!
@Crusader of the Holy Grail 1. I fully agree with the "alone " not being in scripture at this verse. You may notice though that BY GRACE is mentioned twice for emphasis .
2. Either way, law or works, has to be taken as something not related to the gift as neither support a free gift.
3.I disagree that salvation is not a one time event.
Roman 11:28 Regarding the gospel, they are enemies on your account; but regarding election, they are loved on account of the patriarchs. 29 For God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who formerly disobeyed God have now received mercy through their disobedience,…
Salvation is by gift of God and it is a one time event but works of righteousness is ongoing .1 Cor 6:11 is all past tense and leads one to have confidence that regardless of how imperfect we are we are still in Christ.
James was talking about works being a result of our faith. You say that that in faith alone is not mentioned, but you forget Ephesians 2:9.
I recommend you read Ephesians 2 completely. The letter is clearly stating you no longer have to conduct works such as "circumsion" to be considered saved. It is by Gods grace you are saved, not through the old procedures as before.
What about Ephesians 2:10?
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh not a justification for works salvation.
@@ThatDarnTurtle correct
Human, who are you to think thay your "works" will match the grace of God and would make Him be more God? 😂
Only grace can save. Forget working as requirement. Work because you were given grace.
No work is required to go to heaven becaus if it were so, Jesus Christ would be a liar when He said to the thief, "Today, you will be with me in paradise."
That "work to be saved" paradigm was deconstructed by one sentence and one situation. 😂
God be praised!
No one taught faith alone for 1500 years?
Basil the great.. AD 330
St Origin… AD 184
Chrysostom… AD 347
St Jerome.. AD 342
Clement of Rome… AD 35
all taught justification by faith alone
Martin Luther was just the one who said enough was enough and did something about it
Phil 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.
That is a description of the Sacraments. It is in the Sacraments that we present ourselves before God, declare our faith in Him and He counts it to us as righteousness. And then, because of our faith, He pours on the grace of the Holy Spirit, washing us our sins.
Do Protestants really not know what the Works of the Law are? I'm going through these comments and I have yet to see a single Protestant actually know what they are
He took out of context Romans 2:6-7 (doing good works for eternal life)
Because the answer is in
Romans 3:21-28 (we are justified by faith in Christ apart from works of the law.)
This man nor anybody else has persisted in doing good works under the law in order to obtain eternal life. Only Jesus Christ has done the law perfectly. Not even Mary who called Jesus her Savior and brought a sacrifice to the altar for her sins.
Faith in Christ alone, without works and you will be saved.
The born again Christian now does the good works out of love for Christ that were preordained. We love Him because He first loved us. Our good works don't save us. That's why Abraham was considered righteous at the point he believed God. His works were a result of his believing in God.
Catholism is also um biblical with the prayer of Mary, saints, and Idolatry.
Please learn the difference between Idolatry and veneration. We do not Worship the Saints or Mary. We honor them (have respect for) because they did Gods will and they are in heaven. Now just like you ask anyone to pray for you is the same way we ask them to pray for us. The last time I checked I worship ONE and ONLY true God the father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy spirit 3 in 1‼️‼️‼️Please learn to research things before you speak. Thank you and God bless
@@holyspiritpresents Now just like you ask anyone to pray for you is the same way we ask them to pray for us.
Sounds good but does it line up with scripture? Jesus and the apostles prayed to God , and it seems everyone in the bible prayed to God , so along comes the Catholic church and it says you can pray to the saints ,Mary, or angels to pass on your requests to God? The statement you made is accurate in praying for one another as we are alive. praying to the dead is not kosher. The saints are dead and buried and waiting in the grave for the resurrection but their spirits are placed in the heavenly realm with Jesus.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Yes it lines up with scripture.
First lets address that the saints are alive and in heaven.
*John 11: 25* Jesus said unto her, “I am the resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, *yet shall he live;*
Those that believe and follow Christ do not die.
*Revelations 9-10* When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”
Not only are saints alive but they can communicate with God directly in heaven.
Do these saints in heaven pray to God? Yes, and they even pray for us on earth.
*Revelation 7: 9-12* After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying: “Amen! Praise and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!”
The Saints will even do Priestly duties at the alter of God in heaven.
*Revelation 7: 13-17* Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes-who are they, and where did they come from?” I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore, *“they are before the throne of God and serve him day and night in his temple*; and he who sits on the throne will shelter them with his presence. ‘Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat down on them, nor any scorching heat. For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; ‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’ ‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.
*Revelation 8: 3-4* Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and *stood at the altar* (same alter the martyrs are doing priestly duties). *He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all God’s people, on the golden altar in front of the throne.* The smoke of the incense, *together with the prayers of God’s people, went up before God from the angel’s hand.* (hey remember when you said the Catholic Church *made up* "angels passing on your requests to God"?)
So here we have Saints worshiping God at the alter, performing priestly duties, giving incense and prayers for God's people (which includes people on earth) an angel comes takes incense and these prayers to God.
Now to address another inevitable question from protestants "well how can the saints see us" which is funny because they are literally in communion with God why wouldn't they be able to, but I'll give you Biblical evidence.
Revelation 18 is all about John seeing the destruction of Babylon, John is in heaven, how can he see what is on earth if creatures in heaven can not see earth? This is clear evidence creatures in heaven can see earth. I showed you John a creature seeing earth from heaven can you give me any Biblical evidence that creatures in heaven can't see earth?
Also to address another point I know will be brought up "even if the saints can hear our prayers and even see us they would have to be omnipotent to do so, it's not possible for Mary to hear each person asking her to pray to God for them." The problem is believing this is omnipotent when it is not even close, it's disrespectful to God's true omnipotence. Does the devil tempt people all over the world all at the same time, even to the point people destroy themselves spiritually mentally and physically? Yes and this is way more powerful than hearing requests and praying to God. So is the devil omnipotent? Obviously not.
*Revelation 5:13* Then I heard *every creature* in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!"
John can hear not just humans but every creature whether it was on earth, sea, heaven or underground? Not only that but "all that is in them". So that must mean John is omnipotent right? Here we have a human, not even a saint yet in heaven and he can hear all these things that go way beyond what apostolic Churches say saints can do.
tl;dr Saints don't die, they can even communicate with the Lord in heaven. Saints perform priestly duties, worship God and give prayers of God's people to an angel to bring to God. Revelations shows John can see earth from heaven and even can hear every single creature at the same time.
What objections do you have now against communion of Saints or any Catholic teachings for that matter?
@@danmerland493 Not once have I ever said that saints who die and are buried are dead in heaven. On earth they are in the grave waiting for resurrection but according to Eph 2: they are alive in the heavenly realm with Jesus.
You make an interesting point but you do not show any evidence that it is acceptable to pray to saints, Mary, or anyone other than God. Old and new testaments do not have prayers to anyone but God but the Catholic church does?
You also bring up Revelation which is prophetic in nature and it is not happening yet but it will happen soon. No evidence that the saints who are serving God have any influence , ears to hear or lips to speak that God would hear from someone on earth via a saint?
That is human reasoning but not scriptural. If there is no reference that saints or anyone needs a person ,dead in the grave alive in heaven ,as a go between to get God's ear for requests , then maybe you should accept that this is a man made issue .
I was listening to a non Catholic believer talk about the gospel and he said" We believe almost everything the catholic church does" That is true and there are a couple doctrines that just do not line up with scripture .but the rest do.
Try making bread with no yeast or baking powder / baking soda. It just does not rise. A little bit of yeast makes a huge difference and so does a little bit of mans doctrine plugged into the scriptures and taught in the church as truth.
Please show us in scripture where we are to pray to someone to convey our prayers to God?
There are actually scriptural text giving that it is indeed biblical to ask for Saints to pray for you. Please search more about Catholicism I think you will be surprised how it is all biblical.