Zeroth Dragons Ranked (From Worst To Best) 2
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- Опубліковано 7 бер 2019
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Ultima? Dont you mean victorious deer?
I dunno man, Stark + Laurel is a pretty nice wincon last time I checked :')
Dark zone needs a little glory
Agreed. Stark in DP is so good especially one that swings with multiple crits at 100k 3 times
+DifferentFight Let me know when it tops some BCSes consistently 😂
The major issue with that combo is counterblast. D-Police, to this day, never got an active counter-charger, meaning you are never going to have 3 open CB unless something weird happens. Additionally, well... I came to the conclussion that Stark doesn't synergize well with either Novas or D-Police. Both clans at that point got restanders who technically do more then Stark even with one less attack. Viktor restands your board with him while X-Gallops comes in with insane numbers + the option for Sentinel-breaking & Laurel. Stark just doesn't feel like an option, he comes of more as a victory-lap card because you are mostly going to play him if you know you're already winning.
This is why I'm interested to see what bushiroad is going to do with the new Zeroth in the Premium collection.
stoping him is not that hard with most clans.. many tims gallop is better.. and also your rearguards in DP dont do much.. so.. that sucks lol
I really love how moegiddo scales well with all her clans, every one of Magallanica's clans gets to abuse this dragon's power even more than before, Aqua has even more restanding units than before (although I must admit AqF is the weakest of the bunch here), Granblue (despite being protect) has Skull Dragon which just swings HARD, and BmT as a force clan gets Sonata to wreck havoc with +20k melodies untop of the 5k and however many Force you stack on a circle
I know Zoa's wincon is a lot deadlier, but for me its ALWAYS better to rip apart 20 cards handsize with 6+ 50k+ swings rather than having the opponent say "GG guard restrict kills me", NOTHING feels better than moegiddo multi attack barrage!
true but when you go up against a Narukami abuser your drop might not have what you need to pull any of these off ;)
What's a narukami?
@@SolemnVanguard I dont realy care about how to write it correctly lol
I wasn't talking about spelling, I think you wrote it correctly. I joked about the fact that the deck doesn't exist ;P
@@SolemnVanguard I actually finished my premium deck yesterday.. and its so good I can almost face Ezel with dignity :P
)when Ezel starts cause when I do its a fair game as u know) but true enough lol nobody plays them now days lol
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If dust combo with "your opponent cannot guard with grade 0" that would very OP
Ultima is also really strong because it has access to Stand Triggers. Sure stand triggers have less power than the new triggers. However, Gold Paladins will have at least seven attacks in a turn.
I quite agree in your rank but for Dust case, even though it got nerf so hard, I think Dust with DI G0 restriction(ex.Cuticle + Gastile deck) is still powerful considering that many clans use draw PG instead of G1 PG.(or going 2/2 or 3/1) It can be a good finisher in non-protect clans. (Protect clans are the hard counter for the deck.)
Megiddo age like fine wine :') proud of my water dragon boi
Your list is exactly like mine😂😁
could you do a deck on Gyze deck like OTT
I agree with the list.
Wait, so i can use Ultima to stack both a Stand trigger and the Overtrigger and get like 8-9 attacks with a quadrillion power and everyone drive checks and i could even get a crit to give everyone +2 crit and have a million cards in hand in the very unlikely case the opponents survives the attack and
At least Megiddo scales with each clan it gets,
It just feeds into it.
I get the feeling stark is more deadly in deletor messiah with the deleting + 10k + extra restand thing
I agree with the list
i dont know if i agree with drachma, even though it doesn't always win you the game instantly like the others, you still win after since your opponent has no resources left at all, i don't think i've ever lost when i used drachma, it might take a turn or 2 before you win, but you definitely win when you use it, which stark or dust or even megiddo don't do always, but that's just my opinion
I cri whenever i think about the lack of glory that my baby kagero gets. Can we have a kagero meta please thanks?
It seems someone overlooked a certain Nubatama endgame thing with Drachma.
Signerdragon123 is it the g3 card that forces your opponent to bind their entire hand on ride?
@@frost1262 Actually, that's a different Stride you're thinking of.
A Common G3 from V-BT03 is what makes Drachma a lot better that you'd give it credit for.
+Signerdragon123 Nuba should be winning before Drachma though...
@@SolemnVanguard You're meant to use Drachma as the second Stride in the RIP Hand and RG variant.
Solemn vanguard do a progenitor ranking
ZOA IS INSANE
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+Joey Crosby Maxime Solemn - Should’ve Known Better
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I think Stark is insane in Premium. In my Dimension Police Premium deck, I raised it’s attack up to 110 k. Imagine that power 3 times in your face and with 2 crits with Laurel’s Standard effect. I think that Stark should be in 2nd place
And yet it doesn't top at all... It's not just about the cards in a vacuum. It's about their place in the meta.
Stark isn't doing a lot right now. The only reason it's over Drachma is because, as you say, when it goes off, it CAN be strong.
I see, since I’m only playing for fun, I don’t really see how it’s going on competitively. Now I get why it’s third place
I personally wouldn't put Zoa in the same tier as Ultima. I honestly think Ultima would be a tier 0 compared to the others. It's just that good. I'm really hoping the new ultimate strides or whatever they are can give the other nations some love.
My group always says that stark is plain old the worst. Its pretty much just like if it had a critical of 3 and it and the drive checks spread out. We also say that ultima and zoa are the most powerful too. neat
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Anyways, I agree with the list 👍
Keep up the great work
Interesting. I would've kept Zoa at the bottom mainly because of protect markers existing.
p.s. Then again I'm a scrub playing Neo Nectar so none of your combos apply to me R.I.P
It still counts as a sentinal if I'm not mistaken.
@@kaitohiroyuki122 Yeah it does. It's just that Solemn mentioned green clans that have some form of guard restriction which allows Zoa's on hit skill to proc. Neo Nectar doesn't have that, so we are more susceptible to being perfect guarded out of the other Zoo clans.
I think for the zoa combine play 8 stands to 12 stands Attack with the 99,999 rg and drive check stand and stand that rg again
You can't.
Why?
G4ming Wolfz Read Zoa. Until end of turn, the unit Zoa calls gets:
‘This unit cannot be chosen by card effects’
General Tozen lol i know abt it alr like 30mins after the video was release
I agree, Ultima is broken in this meta!!😆
You almost made a Sephirot Tree
I would say that stark is lesser to Dust.. thats because stark needs some other cards with him to work and get intimidating, while Dust is still scary on its own, yes if he hits a trigger that would weaken him but it still has its own win condition (sort of) so with the right decks it almost doesnt matter what other rear you have.
still Megido is better than Dust of course. than Ultima is very strong indeed, and Zoa as well, but I would have to say after playing many Zoa combos, many meta decks can stop any Zoa combo pretty much easily.. so while Ultima is more rare to get used at the decks that run it, I would still say that he is slightly better than Zoa overall, plus he should be in every deck you play while Zoa has mainly 2 decks in the format it can go off in. ;) thats my opinion.
I think Dust and Stark more less even out simply because Stark has a higer floor than Dust. Assuming nothing else on board, 3 vanguard swings at 36-38 minimum is more scary than a damage deal + 1 power g guard restrict
@@randomanimefan1000 If you have nothing else you simply will not go into a zeroth dragon because you are very likely to lose either way.. lol ;)
every deck that respects itself will go to a better stride at that situation..
@@randomanimefan1000 also 2 heals and 4 damage is enough to stop stark most times alone if he has no crit (lets say) but Dust will obliterate through that easily.. so.. its situational :)
@@DDFKPD 2 heals lmao what are the chances
@@beckham2_david383 well that was an example lol.. but better than the chances you go into one when you have nothing else in hand lol
What about Gyze. It is a Zeroth Dragon too.
Gyze is a Gyze not a Zeroth Dragon
Ain't it funny how both Zoa GN and Zoa MC have a very similar combo structure?
Yes, sentinel restriction is the only way to make Zoa matter.
Everyone talking about the Zoa restrict
But I still haven't heard anyone else try the addictive drug called
DRAW 16 WITH CHATNOIR LEOPALD CRAYON BIGBELLY
UWAHHHH >:D
Wow didn't talk about Royals and how they can abuse Ultima with Flogals and a Blaster Blade. I feel betrayed Solemn.
+kawal singh Very true! But the cb cost is quite heavy
@@SolemnVanguard not very.. did that a few games already.. you get blaster blade easily and with Ultima 2 flogal to hand and 2 new crits to top and thats game lol.. but it is stopble never the less..
@@SolemnVanguard I mean it's Premium Royals, we don't have Main Deck CC unless you play Painter, Effect Heals or the GOAT Packgal
Ultima with Gold paladins Gurguit and pellinor or Ezel it makes no difference your opponent better hope for luck
Personally i think Zoa blows. It’s really only good when you play it with Megacolony and play it with that no guard combo. I’ll admit I got hit by that combo but I didn’t care because me and the dude had a huge blast playing that game haha.
GN has a better version of the combo. Both of those decks are actually relevant decks.
Yes, it's only good with the combo; but the combo exists, therefore it's a really strong card.
Solemn Vanguard You know what, I’ll give you that one my dude, I’m not surprised GN has a stronger version of that combo, from the couple of time I’ve played against that deck it’s always been nuts
Its basically that zoa sucks with neo nectar. Minus that its still very strong.
Drachma is way better in tachikaze especially when your opponent somehow managed to survive one gllutony dogma or nubatama deck when they will really rarely have that extra grade 3 in hand
Poor Drachma, CB2 to discard 3 cards from your opponents hand and wipe their field (not that that part matters) versus stuff like like Ultima's +20k +2 crit to your entire field or +15k +1 crit restand all rearguards.
Drachma should've been the one to deal a damage tbh, might have made it atleast semi-viable as a finisher.
Forgetting a certain G3 from Nubatama in V-BT03, are we?
@@Signerdragon123 Why do that at GB3 when you can just use the Gb2 Nubatama Stride, it has the same cost (CB2) but it's easier to use since you can stride into it with anything and doesn't blow up your G-zone if your opponent heals a bunch.
@@bakubladers Because Tskumorakan doesn't nuke the board, meaning when you use Kokushigarasu's skill, they can return their rear-guards to the hand and discard them instead.
@@Signerdragon123 Ah I see, granted they'd need to have a pretty large field to not "lose" on 5 but it's atleast a use for Drachma, although it's the slowest zeroth kill combo by a country mile.
Its no zoa that it self is good it's the fact it can abuse cards in multiple clans that makes it "broken" basicly
So Ultima isn't good, it's just the fact it can abuse triggers?
Enigmatic Assassin wasn't good, it's just that it could abuse NLK?
You can say this about literally any card ever. The fact of the matter is that it has/had influence on the meta, a lot more-so than the zeroths under it.
Stark+greidhol-V+given I think still has viablility
Stark doesn't rest so that combo doesn't work.
Stark can only attack 3 times or you can play 2 Given in one turn to have five attacks with Greidhol
@@Rei-0403 Stark doesn't rest when he attacks. Given stands your vanguard so he doesn't interact with Stark in any way.
Edgy McEdgeface I already knew it
@@Rei-0403 Yeah I didn't comprehend the comment properly the first time around. I need to get some sleep.
Greidhol exist
Megido players :....... FUCK
Why everything must be Luard? I still prefer Diablo tho
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Congratssss
sad life dust and stark
one of the best but now one of the worst
With Accel marker Meggido is wild now