I have had really great success with the all 7 dice set on the come out roll and once the point is made I set the dice to all hard ways. With 5 on top. I can get 20+ rolls just about every time. I have made 30+ rolls on many occasions.
That’s awesome! The change up on come out from the 7 set to hard ways set is a good one. Great to hear your getting the longer rolls, hopeful that your capitalizing on them as well.
I normally prefer to shoot for either end of the table, on our very last time at our closest casino to us which is in Kinder, La ( just a week before the pandemic hit) I had jumped onto a table and the only position that was available was 2nd right of the stick. I had a developed a horrible pain in my right shoulder prior to our trip. I wasn’t going to throw because of it and at the last minute I decided to go ahead and try. I was at an angle that ever time I threw the dice, I wanted to scream but I made my point pretty quickly and while the dealers were setting up for the next roll I just shook my arm out and tried again. I went on a heater and everyone was aware that I was in some pain, on my 17th roll I made my point. I asked if I could pass the dice and everyone screamed NO! Some guy came and massaged my shoulder and and everyone had a good laugh and I started up again but I 7’d out after about 8 rolls. I colored up and and everyone was like “just take some pain killers and stay! It was a lot of fun but I paid for it that night and the following day. (And pain killers were needed, lol). I haven’t played in a casino since that day and I miss it so much but we are just not ready to try it. Our Covid numbers are very high in our area and I am sure going to the Casino in La. is not a great idea.
Nice video. Your explanations are understandable and informative. Any negative comments about dice influence are, in my opinion, unjustified to a degree. Certainly a person cannot get the exact outcome that is desired on every single throw. But by TRYING to use the same grip, the same arm speed, the same release, and the same aiming point, the thrower theoretically can get more consistent results. And if you can get the desired result more often than not, you should be ahead in the game. And that’s all we really want, isn’t it? Be be ahead and walk away with more than we started with.
Practice Practice Practice! So true. Built a table, learning from youtube Shooters, locking in on muscle memory. Found at the Casino that a 2/3 2/1 yuri from the end I had a great throw. Next time, nothing. Changed to a 2/3 2/1 three finger drop, no rotation and another great throw. Different day, different dice? Not sure. Just made the adjustment and it worked. But, I kept the same dice set and mechanics, mostly. Minimum rotation, easy landing, throwing cross table to corner around Big 6/8 . Great video and explanation. I am always trying to improve. You are doing a great job. Just found your site. Looking forward to your videos! Alright SHOOTER!
Hey El Toro just wanted to let you know I used your throw from the end and I’m loving it. Couldn’t get any other spot but all the way at the end. Tried the normal toss but point 7’d from that distance. Changed it up to yours and was rolling 7-15 per hand. I’ve practiced it at stick left at home but kept getting rotation. From the end the were flying way straighter. I’m a newbie so I didn’t bet much at all, just wanted live reps at the casino. Building a full size table now because I’m convinced there is something to this. Thanks for everything and keep the videos coming.
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Thanks for the encouragement.. I have been adapting MY throw to how my muscles work. Muscle memory from bowling and pitching 16" softball and pitching pennies as a kid, all work together and against what I'm trying to do... Practice, practice, and more practice.
Michael Marek try throwing the dice underhanded, you might find it works better for you. The key is making sure you keep the dice relatively motionless in the air so they can land the way you want them to. Thanks again for the positive feedback.
100% correct . Fantastic session I agree with everything . Practice is the only way if you want success. Played English football all my life, love practicing it's life! More sessions love this stuff, you got me pumped finally someone talking throw mechanics...no one talks about throw mechanix...good stuff
Thanks for the videos and strategies. Lot of you tube DI. I find yours the most informative. I have a fulls size craps table but don't practice much. Too much of life gets in the way. It's not a complaint it is just a fact. Next time I will try your strategy of starting out with maybe a five unit inside bet. I play at $5 tables. So next time $110 inside. Regress to $10. Then press after I'm ahead. I used to practice at 2 units and regress but as you say once a person is confident in their throw they need to start at higher units and not at table minimum
I need to work more on my dice set It takes to much time in my videos but I get a lot of long rolls just Random throwing. Guess I kind of gave up on it. Thanks for the inspiration will get back to practicing
Man I love the information on this video and a bunch of other how to shoot craps videos as well. But man I wish they had some kind of overhead camera so that we can see how their arm swings and how the dice land and what reaction those dice behave when they hit the back. Not complaining just a suggestion. Thanks keep Rollin!
I never heard of throwing in the come area,did you forget about the chips on the pass?the chips behind the pass?a different table that you are used to?
I love the mechanics of the throw. But the implementation of the betting principles are what "works" for me..I have seen the videos on all of the different methods.. pass/don'tpass, 22 inside, iron cross, Martingale, yada... yada... yada.. And yes I did see your five day plan and caught the tips on what to look for in a cold vs. hot table... and maybe I missed the message... But how long does it take to recognize (for you) when the table is turning and you have to change your method.. or just walk away?
Thanks for the question Kevin. It doesn't take me very long to catch the flow of the table. I will just walk away and regroup if its a bad day, come back after a few hours. If you loose 2-3 sessions in a row, it's a good sign to take a break. Thanks again for the positive feedback.
@@El_Toro I am based in Eagle, Idaho. Where are you based out of? I have virtually no one that I know of in this area to connect with to talk CRAPS and to progress forward. I’m going to work on getting my own table and practicing very hard. I’m going down to Las Vegas to study with Howard Rock N Roller and a few other folks. I can tell that you are the real deal. There are a lot of “posers“ out there but as you have stated you do this for a living. I’m hoping to connect with you at some point. I realize you don’t know me but I’m just a straight up guy who loves the game and I’m looking to connect with people that are serious about it and want to work at perfecting it. I am retired and this is my passion. I have the time and I have the work ethic. I also hear echo’s of John Patrick’s material in your background. True? I have learned a lot from John’s teachings as well.
@@jamesanthony897 getting a table is definitely worth the investment if you have the space and budget to do so. You could also practice using a throwing and receiving station, smaller investment option. Before you start spending a bunch of time and money, I would write out and identify what you’re looking to accomplish. I’ve helped people save hundreds and thousands of dollars by just having them answer that one question. Most folks answer they would like to go home once in a while being a winner. To do that, all you need is to understand the game better and learn how to walk away once you’re ahead. You don’t need to pay anyone for that knowledge, save your money. Others say they would like to be good shooters. I always ask them why, and they circle back to the previous scenario. Investing money to become a better shooter will benefit you more when you become a better player. I’ve played with many good shooters, most of them never capitalize on their good rolls. If you can consistently win at the tables regardless of who’s shooting the dice, then do you really need training? Retired with a strong work ethic to dedicate time to practice and study the game is all you need my friend. I don’t know about John Patrick, never seen his material. I’m only familiar with Frank Scoblete and Dominic Loriggio from Golden Touch. Everything else for me was learned at the University of Hard Knock’s….. 😆
Practice practice practice I do believe that is just like a 3-point shooterI've been doing this for about little bit over two years . It works I like your channel you have
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Thank you for a great video. I like your style and thinking. Keep up the great work. IMHO you are 100% correct everyone is different and different things work for different people.
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El Toro Dice Club hey brother sorry I just seem your message that’s sad that somebody is hating on you for helping all of us. I’ve never heard or seen anything wrong in any of your videos. It’s probably some Vice President of some casino doing this! Please don’t stop brother
I have played craps for years and years but I don't really understand the dice setting stuff. I am interested though. Here is my question. What is the dice throwing/setting accomplishing? Can you make it hit a certain number 7 out of 10 times? Is it just designed to NOT throw a 7? What is your goal doing the proper mechanics? Very interested to hear what the goal is.
Scratch Squad, thanks for the great questions. I'll try to give you the "Cliff's Notes" answer, lol. What I try to accomplish in my dice setting combined with my throwing is getting my dice to land the same way every throw decreasing the probability of a 7. Unfortunately i'm not able to control or call the number 7 / 10 times, I wish... The setting and throwing of the dice, if performed correctly will help in reducing the 7 from showing up as often as the chart says it should 6 / 36, doesn't always happen. Proper mechanics is a bit different for everyone, however being consistent in ones mechanics / technique will definitely play a big roll in ones success. The overall goal is to shoot consistently at a level where the 6 / 36 chances is reduced down to 4 or 3 / 36, allowing us to hit more point numbers that will yield us more revenue faster. Home study for you: Throw randomly 2 dice onto any table that has some material on it to give it bounce. throw 36 times and document the dice outcome. Next choose any dice set you like, and repeat the exercise and document the dice outcome. From here, use the same dice set and repeat the exercise, this time, pay close attention to adjust velocity, trajectory, and eliminate the roll of the dice in the air..easier said than done. Document the results and see, did you get better when you paid close attention to the details of your mechanics and technique. This is what I call practicing and developing muscle memory. Hope this helped in answering your questions. I think you might surprise yourself... Thanks again for the positive feedback.
I've only been practicing for 2 months. Mostly at work, between machine cycles and on a pallet w/ cardboard on top, and a back likewise. Here in Milwaukee our Potawatomi casino has a digital table w/ no chips or felt, so in my opinion an ideal table. I can hear how the dice land at work and casino, throwing hardset i almost wince when I hear a corner land, and no surprise one of the side 6s or aces show up, though normally not together. After such a short time, last Saturday I went w/ a don't care either way attitude and $120 bankroll. Not enough to even go really. When the dice hit my hand I was down 2 70, called last shooter on roll 4, and I went a 48 series. Left w/780. Believers/and non 4 dice influence should know the confidence it lends 2 your betting, and when your on and focused there's an edge
Very good video. Question, when you throw the dices, both dices landing flat at the same time or one land first and then the other land behind the other?
Using that toss would you suggest very low trajectory in order to get the dice to land in that area you're pointing to and still make it to the wall ? The wall is a long way from that landing area and it seems like a lot of energy would need to be put into the dice.
Love your videos! You have great insights and explain things well. Forgive me if you have covered this or perhaps I missed it but could you explain and possibly show just how you think the dice should hit?
I also hate that double yaw 7 out. One usually be so focused on the double pitch 7's. When using a hardway set. That the double yaw 7 takes a lil min to mentally process as if they don't exist or something. You be like what the F is this or that oh yeah. I need to be avoiding that mess to in addition to any double pitch whatsoever. Great vid really appreciate it & its always better coming from someone who actually knows what they are talking about from. Actual tried & proven experience over a decent respectable time period. Keep going hard bro for oneself & all the folks who think it's not possible. Due to the backwall completely random roll trap.
I clicked on this channel to learn dice mechanics and I was treated to a gun show. “Sun’s out Gun’s out.” I love guns. However, I’m interested in making money right now. When I’m training for a arm wrestling tournament. I know where to go. Haha. Thank you, Sir.
Interesting approach...it would be interesting to see how on-axis/off-axis your results are from the back with your throw mechanic. The 3V as you mentioned in the beginning will punish a single die off-axis. Consistency...consistency is the key for sure
Masterslacker, great comments. Throwing from the end of the table is a bit difficult in getting the dice to act right. Just posted "Craps Shoot (Husband -vs- Wife)" where I threw again from the end. Check it out and let me know. Thanks again for the positive feedback.
Love the video Excellence instructions step by step different scenarios the betting system work where you increase your bet when you have more confidence of practicing keep up the good work
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I use only the hard way set. last time at the tables, my best rolls were 36 - 36 - 28 - 24 - & 17 ON the 28 roller......., I rolled 8 hardways 1) H10 2) H4 2 H8 & 3) H6 the only downside is the 5's & 9's don't seem to come up much (with the hardway set), But that's okay If I'm ON the hardways & I only place bet the 6 & 8 On come outs I use the all 7 set
Just went to the casino yesterday I won about 800 dollars! I practice throwing the dice on a real table everyday! I went to the golden nugget in Biloxi MS and their dice table was like a trampoline but I managed to overcome somehow
Good Stuff! AND an observation...... I have a half table for practice with a throwing station. Watching El Toro's (and other's) videos I have been CHARTING my throws. Recently began looking at my HOT numbers and noticed that MY HOT NUMBERS VARY BY MY LOCATION AT THE TABLE. El Toro, I know you always throw from the END ZONE (I have no luck YET from the END ZONE) Yesterday; SL2 my numbers were 5&6; SL1 - 8; SR2 - 4,6,9; SR1- 6,8,4) I assume it is due to the height of the lob, the distance to the backboard and possibly my mechanics to get it to LZ from different locations.
Hey Nick, I had my table built for me so I was able to design the layout. My buddy Dustin can help you out at American Table Games, tell him El Toro sent you: americantablegames.com
What would be a good bet strategy..i bet big and win fast..i shoot good..i been pressing the.n droping back down to min bet..its working out for me..but it takes me forever to get up over 2k..some days ill buy in with $200 and walk away with $2000..but i like to know a good bet strategy
Admire all that love the game of craps. Planning on retiring at the age of 56. Dreaming of playing craps to sublimenting my income playing the game. Do you have any advice on money management to make this happen. Forgive the misspelling.
Awesome explanation of your game in Craps... I see how practice is a must in dice throwing because as a part time craps player I’ve seen how consistency in my throwing falls off the rails,especially when I’m ahead in house money,for sure my serious next step is to put together my own crap practice table...my mind set when playing for now has been “win 2 out of 3 sets at $100 buy in “ on a $5 dollar table. I’m crawling before I walk and like my winnings results thus far...again,great job on this video you’ve put together.
Great stuff here El Toro! I agree! You can only influence but NEVER control those jumping dominoes. You've made a great point in your videos...As far as you know you're the only channel that actually play craps for a living. Regarding a practice table does one not have to practice the way they play? That being the case, getting a casino grade table would seem to be very important and tables that are actually made for a casino or either VERY expensive or not available at all. Any leads on that one? Any help you can provide is appreciated.
Hey Frank, great job on that! Glad to hear that the advice is helping you recoup some of your previous Casino donations, LOL! I've been there too many times in the past. Thanks again for the positive feedback.
@@El_Toro thx man I appreciate it. I've been shooting dice for nearly 20 years, and the past 2 I started studying the mechanics and physics of the game, along with tips I pick up here and there, as well as bought a crap table for the house. Me and my wife have turned this into a very profitable side job. We are winning 4 out of 5 trips and we go on average 2-3 times a week. Thanks for all your tips brother, and keep all these awesome videos coming!!!!
And for everyone who is skeptical, you can have an edge, just practice practice practice till u find ur set that works for u and ur throw, and STAY LOW KEY!!!!!!
Which dice set? Dominator recommends the HARDWAY SET however the disadvantage is with the double pitch. I rather score some primary numbers (the 6 & 8's) and single pitched numbers preferably (5's & 9's) in the event of a double pitch at least I stand a 50/50 chance of not "sevening out."
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you, lots of questions that need answering. So I use the 3/6 3/5 dice set, works for my style and position at the table. I tend to hit the majority scoring numbers which is what we all are looking for. My dice set doesn't have any 7's showing and dice need to double pitch each to really hit the 7. Be careful as this is a tough dice set to master. When you start out there's going to be a lot 7's. Thanks again for the positive feedback.
I just moved to Vegas and I play craps often. I have my own practice rig at home. I'd love to meet up with you at the craps table. Let's make some money!
I would think that it would be more helpful to show a live throw from Stick R/L instead of explaining different outcomes that are difficult to envision. That way, one can see the set, hold, throw and landing. True??
Mike Kutzler , Color Up is what I would consider to be a pillar in our Craps community. Respect for him and his channel. Glad you found me. Thanks again for the positive feedback.
Quick way to set them in your hand, Yes. Most dealers will take notice, but the cameras either overhead or in the table top bumper will see everything. On a “no dice setting “ table, I adjust either one or both dice in my hand quickly then set back down for a quick dry of the fingers then readjust if needed a second time. Slide them back and launch. It’s done so quickly that it doesn’t slow the game down. I typically need to adjust only one. I will say that for most players at the table, dice setting doesn’t help. The reason behind that statement is most players haven’t practiced enough in perfecting the mechanics needed to influence the dice. You’ll see on another one of my videos that the dice set has very little to do with the outcome.
Thanks for not trying to sell us stuff, also what bets on the board do you think are bad, Lots of ppl tell me the field bets are the worst however I have mad hundreds from the field. any info would be great.
Welcome Raphael, the worst bets on the board are the ones with the highest house edge. You can see them clearly on the table as they have the highest payouts advertised. 1000 to 1, 250 to 1, 150 to 1, 30 to 1, 25 to 1, 15 to 1, then down from there. Personally, I'm not a big field bet player, I prefer place bets and DC. Thanks again for the positive feedback
Suggestion... on ur “dice sets” video, the camera was not picking up what u were doing with ur hands... might consider using the “ come area” in future videos so viewers see what u r doing with the dice
I don't have a table yet but i'm practicing on my throwing by setting out an 8 inch bowl covered with a soft to get my throw so my dice stay together and my throws are definitely improving. it's helped a lot.got to start somewhere. I like your advice and I got a lot from bone thrower too. Thanks again
Garrison Interesting, Remember there are only six MASTER SETS. Four sets for the Do shooter and two sets when you wish to seven. out. All sets only have 16 combinations ( 4X4=16) Good Luck at the tables. P.S. The BEST you can get on the "Do side" is three ways for the 6 &8, two ways for the 4,5,9,&10 and two ways for the seven. So the odds are 3/2 for the 6 &8 and 2/2 ( even $$$) for the 4,5,9,&10 no matter what "Do set" you use. The BEST odds ( yes the best ) is when you get a number and then use the Don't sets and seven out. But that is another class. You now have FOUR ways for the seven or WIN and only one way for the 4,6,8,&10 and zero ( yes zero ) ways for the 5 & 9. Those are the best odds you can get as a dice setter. Keep rolling those bones and learn the new "Golden Rule "for all dice setters. --------and use the KISS method aka Keep It Simple, (Taken from the You tube clip " The THRUTH about dice setting" )
Great question Gregory? I don't believe you will find a dice set that will eliminate the 7 especially on a double pitch. Single pitch of one die then yes. The real question is, are you able to determine which of the dice are pitching and are you able to fix that issue. My experience in correcting dice from pitching starts with the grip then through to the release. If you can master sending the dice close together with as little spin as possible, you should see a big improvement regarding those double pitch issues. As always keep practicing and thanks again for the positive feedback.
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By the way... I too do everything I can to eliminate Backspin. In my humble opinion, Backspin is a killer... You should also try the Spider Grip. It is fun to practice with and I find it is extremely easy to control backspin. Again, All the Best, my Brother!
@@usoolive1 Hey ! I just came across this question... For me... It is the Grip... start with trying a 2 finger Grip... or even a 1 finger Grip (pointer and thumb). It may take a little practice, but if you try these grips, you may see and INSTANT reduction in Backspin.
Practice on a real table... That is the only way you are going to know which is YOUR dice set, and know when to make changes in the middle of a session, when you feel confident about your throw, it takes a lot of time of practice and a lot dice sets to get your grip on what works for you specifically. people should save their money that are trying to invest on craps seminars and buy them selfs a real table and practice because that is the only way you are going to get your SET.. and not by what other people tells them what works for them.. good video...!
I keep a piece of the fat chalkboard chalk in my pocket. FYI don't put it in your pocket with coins. :) No one ever notices you putting your hand in your pocket between shots. It is just enough powder to not be noticed on your fingers.
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3/6 3/2, hard table, SL1, 3 finger grip, minimal rotation, shooting to corner, landing flat and easy 2-3 inches from rubber hit hard6 4x hard10 2x with 10+ throws b4 7. 2nd time 3/6 3/5 same technique hit Yo and Aussie yo (ie horn bet) 3 times each, with 18+ throws b4 7. anyone with similar results?
Lmao this is hysterical..I was wondering if the dice know that they need to land a certain way..can you predict lottery numbers..I can’t believe there’s still one born every minute
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Hi El Toro, I just watched your video and will share some of my personal views about the claims that you make. First of all the. most important concession that you make occurs at the 2:49 point of your video. Quote: "There is no way you can control them (the dice) but then you contradict yourself by claiming that you can influence the outcome just after you noted that they bounce randomly. If the dice bounce randomly, there no control or influence that you are imparting to the dice. Consider my thoughts below: After watching a few videos about dice control, I have come to the conclusion that individuals who endorse dice control have no comprehension of the concept of randomness. My comments on dice control hopefully will provide an understanding that dice control is not improbable but impossible. Some individuals stress the importance of maintaining the same axis on the dice when tossing them. It does not matter whether or not the same axis is maintained. There are so many other variables to consider in the toss: -how much force is used -how high the dice are tossed -where the dice strike the table before contacting the back wall -where the dice strike the back wall -which pyramid and which part of the pyramid each die strikes -where each die comes to rest -how many bounces and turns each die completes before coming to rest -how many chips the dice encounter -how firm/soft/bouncy is the table -etc. If a player is unable to control just one of these variables, he will be unable to practise dice control. In an attempt to convince others of the possibility of dice control, I would like to see just one proponent of dice control to create a video recorded in slow motion which documents the action of the dice on each toss i.e. record the results relating to all of the variables mentioned above and variables that I haven't mentioned I have a suggestion. Use two different coloured dice, one red and one green. Let’s make it even easier. Assume that on each toss, the red always shows a five. Now the shooter simply has to control the green die and have it show any number other than a two to avoid the dreaded seven out. Conduct this experiment over many thousands of rolls to more closely simulate results due to probability and graph how often the seven appears. If a sufficient number of rolls are made, then the seven should appear in the ratio of once every six rolls. If the ratio is much less than 1:6 a player may insist that he is controlling the dice. However, remember in the example the red die is already fixed (controlled) by setting it on the five. I have watched videos in which after the creator of the video sevens out, he tries to explain the seven by claiming he did something wrong on the toss. Truly moronic behaviour. Remember Patricia Demauro? In May 2009 the grandmother played at the Borgota in Atlantic City and rolled the dice 154 times (over four hours) to set the record for the longest roll. Was she controlling the dice? No!!! This was only her second time to shoot craps. There will be short rolls and there will be long rolls. No one can predict whether a roll will be short or long. Lady Luck is your friend and only she determines how successful/unsuccessful a shooter will be. Proponents of dice control are delusional. P.S. - I urge you to Google the video "Betting On Random Shooter." I am sure that you will appreciate how anything can happen at a craps table without so called "dice control."
Just happened upon your vid. Dang, I wanted this to be a bit better vid. I really appreciate your knowledge, and I did pick up some dice setting tips, but it was long, a lot of over-explaining, little demonstration, and when there was a toss both your throw and the results were out-of-camera. I will look for other vids from you and hope to be able to watch and follow your mechanics and tips. Thanks for the vid, though!
Hey Jeff, I appreciate your input. I’m new to UA-cam so I haven’t geared up correctly. Everything is shot from my phone. Working on getting two cameras for a better perspective of my throwing and landing area. Thanks again for the positive feedback.
I appreciate the lecture and the demonstration BUT I WOULD like to see how you ACTUALLY DO with your technique by actually FILMING your throws to DEMONSTRATE it's EFFICACY!!! So in other words, what I am saying is that I would like to see you do at LEAST 20-30 throws 5 times to see how often out of your throws it takes you to seven-out!!! I have heard and read that the average person takes about 6. something throws or is it 6.23 throws before someone throws a 7 so if it takes you at least 11+ throws before you throw a 7, then you are doing fairly well and if it's 15+, then you are doing VERY WELL with your technique. So I would suggest you make a video demonstrating your technique for 30 throws - and do this 5 times for the whole video for a total of 150 throws - to see how you actually do and you can do this by setting up 2 cameras - 1 showing your technique and the other at the end of the table with a CLEAR view that will show the completed outcome of your resulting throws so we can ALL see if your technique is as good as you say it is since you have ALL the necessary equipment as seen on this video - the craps table, chips, dice, stick, etc... OR if you DON'T have 2 cameras for that purpose, have either one of your family members or one of your good friends film it with the one camera you have and have them follow your every move form the throw to the final result at the other end of the table! So PLEASE do this for us as your PROOF!
Thomas Tokarz , just want to be clear. Folks may know what they’re doing as far as playing the game. I’m referencing more, folks not knowing what they’re doing when it comes to shooting the dice. Hopefully I didn’t offend, wasn’t my intention. Thanks again for the positive feedback.
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Jason,
Read my reply below; maybe you'll gain a better understanding of the game of craps.
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Spot on. It's your mechanics and landing zone that are the 2 most important. Practice is key
I have had really great success with the all 7 dice set on the come out roll and once the point is made I set the dice to all hard ways. With 5 on top. I can get 20+ rolls just about every time. I have made 30+ rolls on many occasions.
That’s awesome! The change up on come out from the 7 set to hard ways set is a good one. Great to hear your getting the longer rolls, hopeful that your capitalizing on them as well.
If you can get 20 rolls every time then you can get at least 400 or 500 dollars out of that if you're confident enough to bet.
I normally prefer to shoot for either end of the table, on our very last time at our closest casino to us which is in Kinder, La ( just a week before the pandemic hit) I had jumped onto a table and the only position that was available was 2nd right of the stick. I had a developed a horrible pain in my right shoulder prior to our trip. I wasn’t going to throw because of it and at the last minute I decided to go ahead and try. I was at an angle that ever time I threw the dice, I wanted to scream but I made my point pretty quickly and while the dealers were setting up for the next roll I just shook my arm out and tried again. I went on a heater and everyone was aware that I was in some pain, on my 17th roll I made my point. I asked if I could pass the dice and everyone screamed NO! Some guy came and massaged my shoulder and and everyone had a good laugh and I started up again but I 7’d out after about 8 rolls. I colored up and and everyone was like “just take some pain killers and stay! It was a lot of fun but I paid for it that night and the following day. (And pain killers were needed, lol). I haven’t played in a casino since that day and I miss it so much but we are just not ready to try it. Our Covid numbers are very high in our area and I am sure going to the Casino in La. is not a great idea.
Nice video. Your explanations are understandable and informative. Any negative comments about dice influence are, in my opinion, unjustified to a degree. Certainly a person cannot get the exact outcome that is desired on every single throw. But by TRYING to use the same grip, the same arm speed, the same release, and the same aiming point, the thrower theoretically can get more consistent results. And if you can get the desired result more often than not, you should be ahead in the game. And that’s all we really want, isn’t it? Be be ahead and walk away with more than we started with.
Practice Practice Practice! So true. Built a table, learning from youtube Shooters, locking in on muscle memory. Found at the Casino that a 2/3 2/1 yuri from the end I had a great throw. Next time, nothing. Changed to a 2/3 2/1 three finger drop, no rotation and another great throw. Different day, different dice? Not sure. Just made the adjustment and it worked. But, I kept the same dice set and mechanics, mostly. Minimum rotation, easy landing, throwing cross table to corner around Big 6/8 . Great video and explanation. I am always trying to improve. You are doing a great job. Just found your site. Looking forward to your videos! Alright SHOOTER!
SLEDGE NAIL-IT thanks for the positive feedback, just keeping it real for our community brother.
Hey El Toro just wanted to let you know I used your throw from the end and I’m loving it. Couldn’t get any other spot but all the way at the end. Tried the normal toss but point 7’d from that distance. Changed it up to yours and was rolling 7-15 per hand. I’ve practiced it at stick left at home but kept getting rotation. From the end the were flying way straighter. I’m a newbie so I didn’t bet much at all, just wanted live reps at the casino. Building a full size table now because I’m convinced there is something to this. Thanks for everything and keep the videos coming.
Thanks for the analysis I used ur 3,6 3,5 set and made them all on the bonus!
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Thanks for the encouragement.. I have been adapting MY throw to how my muscles work. Muscle memory from bowling and pitching 16" softball and pitching pennies as a kid, all work together and against what I'm trying to do... Practice, practice, and more practice.
Michael Marek try throwing the dice underhanded, you might find it works better for you. The key is making sure you keep the dice relatively motionless in the air so they can land the way you want them to.
Thanks again for the positive feedback.
Could you do a video on the process to find your mechanics & dice set?
BINGO!! I always say that yet the question never changes.. we will change the mindset one person at a time!
36FullPress Craps, what’s your dice set? Lol... That cracks me up every time I get asked that question. It’s all about the mechanics and consistency.
100% correct . Fantastic session I agree with everything . Practice is the only way if you want success. Played English football all my life, love practicing it's life! More sessions love this stuff, you got me pumped finally someone talking throw mechanics...no one talks about throw mechanix...good stuff
Thanks for the videos and strategies. Lot of you tube DI. I find yours the most informative. I have a fulls size craps table but don't practice much. Too much of life gets in the way. It's not a complaint it is just a fact.
Next time I will try your strategy of starting out with maybe a five unit inside bet. I play at $5 tables. So next time $110 inside. Regress to $10. Then press after I'm ahead. I used to practice at 2 units and regress but as you say once a person is confident in their throw they need to start at higher units and not at table minimum
Best set is the one that works with your toss. Great video brother! Welcome to the community
36FullPress Craps, thanks big dog!
I need to work more on my dice set It takes to much time in my videos but I get a lot of long rolls just Random throwing. Guess I kind of gave up on it. Thanks for the inspiration will get back to practicing
Man I love the information on this video and a bunch of other how to shoot craps videos as well. But man I wish they had some kind of overhead camera so that we can see how their arm swings and how the dice land and what reaction those dice behave when they hit the back. Not complaining just a suggestion. Thanks keep Rollin!
I never heard of throwing in the come area,did you forget about the chips on the pass?the chips behind the pass?a different table that you are used to?
Great video. I am still new to the game. The you explained things makes the info easy to digest.
I love the mechanics of the throw. But the implementation of the betting principles are what "works" for me..I have seen the videos on all of the different methods.. pass/don'tpass, 22 inside, iron cross, Martingale, yada... yada... yada.. And yes I did see your five day plan and caught the tips on what to look for in a cold vs. hot table... and maybe I missed the message... But how long does it take to recognize (for you) when the table is turning and you have to change your method.. or just walk away?
Thanks for the question Kevin. It doesn't take me very long to catch the flow of the table. I will just walk away and regroup if its a bad day, come back after a few hours. If you loose 2-3 sessions in a row, it's a good sign to take a break.
Thanks again for the positive feedback.
Nice shout-out El Toro to all of the other CRAPS shooters....I enjoy learning from all y'all!
Thanks James, I believe in giving credit instead of taking credit.
Appreciate you hanging in there with me.
@@El_Toro I am based in Eagle, Idaho. Where are you based out of? I have virtually no one that I know of in this area to connect with to talk CRAPS and to progress forward. I’m going to work on getting my own table and practicing very hard. I’m going down to Las Vegas to study with Howard Rock N Roller and a few other folks. I can tell that you are the real deal. There are a lot of “posers“ out there but as you have stated you do this for a living. I’m hoping to connect with you at some point. I realize you don’t know me but I’m just a straight up guy who loves the game and I’m looking to connect with people that are serious about it and want to work at perfecting it. I am retired and this is my passion. I have the time and I have the work ethic. I also hear echo’s of John Patrick’s material in your background. True? I have learned a lot from John’s teachings as well.
@@jamesanthony897 getting a table is definitely worth the investment if you have the space and budget to do so. You could also practice using a throwing and receiving station, smaller investment option.
Before you start spending a bunch of time and money, I would write out and identify what you’re looking to accomplish. I’ve helped people save hundreds and thousands of dollars by just having them answer that one question. Most folks answer they would like to go home once in a while being a winner. To do that, all you need is to understand the game better and learn how to walk away once you’re ahead. You don’t need to pay anyone for that knowledge, save your money. Others say they would like to be good shooters. I always ask them why, and they circle back to the previous scenario. Investing money to become a better shooter will benefit you more when you become a better player. I’ve played with many good shooters, most of them never capitalize on their good rolls. If you can consistently win at the tables regardless of who’s shooting the dice, then do you really need training?
Retired with a strong work ethic to dedicate time to practice and study the game is all you need my friend.
I don’t know about John Patrick, never seen his material. I’m only familiar with Frank Scoblete and Dominic Loriggio from Golden Touch. Everything else for me was learned at the University of Hard Knock’s….. 😆
Practice practice practice I do believe that is just like a 3-point shooterI've been doing this for about little bit over two years . It works I like your channel you have
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truth. thanks for the good info!
Thank you for a great video. I like your style and thinking.
Keep up the great work. IMHO you are 100% correct everyone
is different and different things work for different people.
I tried the 10-4 set tonight at the casino and rolled 45 mins. I threw just how you said like a golfer and it worked for me. Thanks for your knowledge
Went to the casino last night and threw the 3V set, won $700 with a $200 bank roll. On the way back with $200 more.
$2400 winner winner. People say dice control is fake lol
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El Toro Dice Club hey brother sorry I just seem your message that’s sad that somebody is hating on you for helping all of us. I’ve never heard or seen anything wrong in any of your videos. It’s probably some Vice President of some casino doing this! Please don’t stop brother
I have played craps for years and years but I don't really understand the dice setting stuff. I am interested though. Here is my question. What is the dice throwing/setting accomplishing? Can you make it hit a certain number 7 out of 10 times? Is it just designed to NOT throw a 7? What is your goal doing the proper mechanics? Very interested to hear what the goal is.
Scratch Squad, thanks for the great questions. I'll try to give you the "Cliff's Notes" answer, lol. What I try to accomplish in my dice setting combined with my throwing is getting my dice to land the same way every throw decreasing the probability of a 7. Unfortunately i'm not able to control or call the number 7 / 10 times, I wish... The setting and throwing of the dice, if performed correctly will help in reducing the 7 from showing up as often as the chart says it should 6 / 36, doesn't always happen. Proper mechanics is a bit different for everyone, however being consistent in ones mechanics / technique will definitely play a big roll in ones success. The overall goal is to shoot consistently at a level where the 6 / 36 chances is reduced down to 4 or 3 / 36, allowing us to hit more point numbers that will yield us more revenue faster.
Home study for you: Throw randomly 2 dice onto any table that has some material on it to give it bounce. throw 36 times and document the dice outcome. Next choose any dice set you like, and repeat the exercise and document the dice outcome. From here, use the same dice set and repeat the exercise, this time, pay close attention to adjust velocity, trajectory, and eliminate the roll of the dice in the air..easier said than done. Document the results and see, did you get better when you paid close attention to the details of your mechanics and technique. This is what I call practicing and developing muscle memory.
Hope this helped in answering your questions. I think you might surprise yourself...
Thanks again for the positive feedback.
i use a science that i came up with, nothing like i have seen anywhere
I've only been practicing for 2 months. Mostly at work, between machine cycles and on a pallet w/ cardboard on top, and a back likewise. Here in Milwaukee our Potawatomi casino has a digital table w/ no chips or felt, so in my opinion an ideal table. I can hear how the dice land at work and casino, throwing hardset i almost wince when I hear a corner land, and no surprise one of the side 6s or aces show up, though normally not together. After such a short time, last Saturday I went w/ a don't care either way attitude and $120 bankroll. Not enough to even go really. When the dice hit my hand I was down 2 70, called last shooter on roll 4, and I went a 48 series. Left w/780. Believers/and non 4 dice influence should know the confidence it lends 2 your betting, and when your on and focused there's an edge
Very good video. Question, when you throw the dices, both dices landing flat at the same time or one land first and then the other land behind the other?
Using that toss would you suggest very low trajectory in order to get the dice to land in that area you're pointing to and still make it to the wall ? The wall is a long way from that landing area and it seems like a lot of energy would need to be put into the dice.
Love your videos! You have great insights and explain things well. Forgive me if you have covered this or perhaps I missed it but could you explain and possibly show just how you think the dice should hit?
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How to keep the dice 🎲 together no rotation till they hit the wall is that possible ?
Bone thrower recommends 4/1-5/6 its pretty good. But good vid. Dude! How about throwing it underhanded?
I appreciate the great information, FAF
I also hate that double yaw 7 out. One usually be so focused on the double pitch 7's. When using a hardway set. That the double yaw 7 takes a lil min to mentally process as if they don't exist or something. You be like what the F is this or that oh yeah. I need to be avoiding that mess to in addition to any double pitch whatsoever. Great vid really appreciate it & its always better coming from someone who actually knows what they are talking about from. Actual tried & proven experience over a decent respectable time period. Keep going hard bro for oneself & all the folks who think it's not possible. Due to the backwall completely random roll trap.
Thanks for watching, I appreciate the positive feedback
I clicked on this channel to learn dice mechanics and I was treated to a gun show. “Sun’s out Gun’s out.” I love guns. However, I’m interested in making money right now. When I’m training for a arm wrestling tournament. I know where to go. Haha. Thank you, Sir.
Interesting approach...it would be interesting to see how on-axis/off-axis your results are from the back with your throw mechanic. The 3V as you mentioned in the beginning will punish a single die off-axis. Consistency...consistency is the key for sure
Masterslacker, great comments. Throwing from the end of the table is a bit difficult in getting the dice to act right. Just posted "Craps Shoot (Husband -vs- Wife)" where I threw again from the end. Check it out and let me know.
Thanks again for the positive feedback.
Love the video Excellence instructions step by step different scenarios the betting system work where you increase your bet when you have more confidence of practicing keep up the good work
Great intro video. Quality insight from a professional Shooter. The sport of Craps should be treated like a business. Keep up the great work
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@@El_Toro where do you gamble?
I use only the hard way set. last time at the tables, my best rolls were 36 - 36 - 28 - 24 - & 17
ON the 28 roller......., I rolled 8 hardways 1) H10 2) H4 2 H8 & 3) H6
the only downside is the 5's & 9's don't seem to come up much (with the hardway set), But that's okay If I'm ON the hardways
& I only place bet the 6 & 8 On come outs I use the all 7 set
great video. Appreciate the time you put into it. Is there any reason why you don't like the PARS on axes throw?
Just went to the casino yesterday I won about 800 dollars! I practice throwing the dice on a real table everyday! I went to the golden nugget in Biloxi MS and their dice table was like a trampoline but I managed to overcome somehow
Send them low and slow! Try to keep them from spinning backwards. That’s how I win at HardRock and BeauRivage.
@@El_Toro no doubt! I like both those places
The hardest thing I had to learn was keeping my fingers together on the throw. Muscle memory
Good job. I love your input👍. Love that table.! I built mine and went with green felt. New subscriber
Birddog301 Birddog301 appreciate it.
Good Stuff! AND an observation...... I have a half table for practice with a throwing station.
Watching El Toro's (and other's) videos I have been CHARTING my throws. Recently began looking at my HOT numbers and noticed that MY HOT NUMBERS VARY BY MY LOCATION AT THE TABLE.
El Toro, I know you always throw from the END ZONE (I have no luck YET from the END ZONE)
Yesterday; SL2 my numbers were 5&6; SL1 - 8; SR2 - 4,6,9; SR1- 6,8,4) I assume it is due to the height of the lob, the distance to the backboard and possibly my mechanics to get it to LZ from different locations.
Where did you get your table layout? I'm looking for one with the ATS bet display.
Hey Nick, I had my table built for me so I was able to design the layout. My buddy Dustin can help you out at American Table Games, tell him El Toro sent you: americantablegames.com
Thanks brother
What would be a good bet strategy..i bet big and win fast..i shoot good..i been pressing the.n droping back down to min bet..its working out for me..but it takes me forever to get up over 2k..some days ill buy in with $200 and walk away with $2000..but i like to know a good bet strategy
Admire all that love the game of craps. Planning on retiring at the age of 56. Dreaming of playing craps to sublimenting my income playing the game. Do you have any advice on money management to make this happen. Forgive the misspelling.
Awesome explanation of your game in Craps... I see how practice is a must in dice throwing because as a part time craps player I’ve seen how consistency in my throwing falls off the rails,especially when I’m ahead in house money,for sure my serious next step is to put together my own crap practice table...my mind set when playing for now has been “win 2 out of 3 sets at $100 buy in “ on a $5 dollar table.
I’m crawling before I walk and like my winnings results thus far...again,great job on this video you’ve put together.
Great stuff here El Toro! I agree! You can only influence but NEVER control those jumping dominoes. You've made a great point in your videos...As far as you know you're the only channel that actually play craps for a living. Regarding a practice table does one not have to practice the way they play? That being the case, getting a casino grade table would seem to be very important and tables that are actually made for a casino or either VERY expensive or not available at all. Any leads on that one? Any help you can provide is appreciated.
Finger strengthening exercises Practice same time every day and willing the dice while tossing them Helps
Just started watching your channel. Fantastic information on the game and the skill. Thanks for putting out such quality content.
Threw from the 2/3 2/1 set last night without moving my wrist, and killed em. 40 min roll, made em all, and made over 2000 with a 200 buy in
Hey Frank, great job on that! Glad to hear that the advice is helping you recoup some of your previous Casino donations, LOL! I've been there too many times in the past.
Thanks again for the positive feedback.
@@El_Toro thx man I appreciate it. I've been shooting dice for nearly 20 years, and the past 2 I started studying the mechanics and physics of the game, along with tips I pick up here and there, as well as bought a crap table for the house. Me and my wife have turned this into a very profitable side job. We are winning 4 out of 5 trips and we go on average 2-3 times a week. Thanks for all your tips brother, and keep all these awesome videos coming!!!!
And for everyone who is skeptical, you can have an edge, just practice practice practice till u find ur set that works for u and ur throw, and STAY LOW KEY!!!!!!
Which dice set? Dominator recommends the HARDWAY SET however the disadvantage is with the double pitch. I rather score some primary numbers (the 6 & 8's) and single pitched numbers preferably (5's & 9's) in the event of a double pitch at least I stand a 50/50 chance of not "sevening out."
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you, lots of questions that need answering. So I use the 3/6 3/5 dice set, works for my style and position at the table. I tend to hit the majority scoring numbers which is what we all are looking for. My dice set doesn't have any 7's showing and dice need to double pitch each to really hit the 7. Be careful as this is a tough dice set to master. When you start out there's going to be a lot 7's.
Thanks again for the positive feedback.
Good job,some good information,thanks
Where are playing craps at ? Love to play wherever you are.💰🎲🎲
I just moved to Vegas and I play craps often. I have my own practice rig at home. I'd love to meet up with you at the craps table. Let's make some money!
I would think that it would be more helpful to show a live throw from Stick R/L instead of explaining different outcomes that are difficult to envision. That way, one can see the set, hold, throw and landing. True??
Nice shout outs not everyone does that I watch color up got to your channel through him
Mike Kutzler , Color Up is what I would consider to be a pillar in our Craps community. Respect for him and his channel. Glad you found me.
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Just starting like your professionalism. What you say makes a lot of sense. Like Bone Thrower also
I like your ideas and practice is true
Thomas Tokarz, thank you. Just trying to keep it real for everyone in the community.
The game moves so fast. Is there a quick way to "set dice" without it being noticed?
Quick way to set them in your hand, Yes. Most dealers will take notice, but the cameras either overhead or in the table top bumper will see everything.
On a “no dice setting “ table, I adjust either one or both dice in my hand quickly then set back down for a quick dry of the fingers then readjust if needed a second time. Slide them back and launch.
It’s done so quickly that it doesn’t slow the game down. I typically need to adjust only one.
I will say that for most players at the table, dice setting doesn’t help. The reason behind that statement is most players haven’t practiced enough in perfecting the mechanics needed to influence the dice.
You’ll see on another one of my videos that the dice set has very little to do with the outcome.
@@El_Toro Nice!! 2 stage. Hard set?
Play to your throw, and improve it! Awesome 👏 great video! I’m going to Rivers NY in an hour, getting ready with your vids and practicing my throws 🤞
Thanks for not trying to sell us stuff, also what bets on the board do you think are bad, Lots of ppl tell me the field bets are the worst however I have mad hundreds from the field. any info would be great.
Welcome Raphael, the worst bets on the board are the ones with the highest house edge. You can see them clearly on the table as they have the highest payouts advertised. 1000 to 1, 250 to 1, 150 to 1, 30 to 1, 25 to 1, 15 to 1, then down from there. Personally, I'm not a big field bet player, I prefer place bets and DC.
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Very good good information. Thanks.
Love the video, very informative. Was wondering how you actually threw the dice?
Great Job, my Brother. And, TY for the Shutout!!!
99crapsplayer99 thanks brother, any time...😎
The only craps we have here in Orlando is bubble craps, which sucks.
hey, I'm going to vegas soon here,where's the best place or places to play craps ?
I'm looking for $5 hard table surface no soft, any recommendations?
Great video!
Let it Roll
I found another shooter brother!
What up yo!
Let it Roll, thanks man.... Just trying to keep it real for the community.
Suggestion... on ur “dice sets” video, the camera was not picking up what u were doing with ur hands... might consider using the “
come area” in future videos so viewers see what u r doing with the dice
Another great video. 💯💯
Hawaiian time bcc thank you man👍
I don't have a table yet but i'm practicing on my throwing by setting out an 8 inch bowl covered with a soft to get my throw so my dice stay together and my throws are definitely improving. it's helped a lot.got to start somewhere. I like your advice and I got a lot from bone thrower too. Thanks again
Hey Chris, thanks for watching. Keep practicing and good luck!
excellent video!!!
Garrison
Interesting, Remember there are only six MASTER SETS. Four sets for the Do shooter and two sets when you wish to seven. out. All sets only have 16 combinations ( 4X4=16) Good Luck at the tables. P.S. The BEST you can get on the "Do side" is three ways for the 6 &8, two ways for the 4,5,9,&10 and two ways for the seven. So the odds are 3/2 for the 6 &8 and 2/2 ( even $$$) for the 4,5,9,&10 no matter what "Do set" you use. The BEST odds ( yes the best ) is when you get a number and then use the Don't sets and seven out. But that is another class. You now have FOUR ways for the seven or WIN and only one way for the 4,6,8,&10 and zero ( yes zero ) ways for the 5 & 9. Those are the best odds you can get as a dice setter. Keep rolling those bones and learn the new "Golden Rule "for all dice setters. --------and use the KISS method aka Keep It Simple, (Taken from the You tube clip " The THRUTH about dice setting" )
I have not found a dice set that doesn't single pitch or double pitch to a 7 has anyone found one that doesn't?
Great question Gregory? I don't believe you will find a dice set that will eliminate the 7 especially on a double pitch. Single pitch of one die then yes. The real question is, are you able to determine which of the dice are pitching and are you able to fix that issue. My experience in correcting dice from pitching starts with the grip then through to the release. If you can master sending the dice close together with as little spin as possible, you should see a big improvement regarding those double pitch issues.
As always keep practicing and thanks again for the positive feedback.
i use a set- a throw, completely different from any other. totally not picked up by the sky....yet!
Good job explaining things bro
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By the way... I too do everything I can to eliminate Backspin. In my humble opinion, Backspin is a killer... You should also try the Spider Grip. It is fun to practice with and I find it is extremely easy to control backspin. Again, All the Best, my Brother!
99crapsplayer99 I need help on stopping my back spin, how can we eliminate that?
@@usoolive1 Hey ! I just came across this question... For me... It is the Grip... start with trying a 2 finger Grip... or even a 1 finger Grip (pointer and thumb). It may take a little practice, but if you try these grips, you may see and INSTANT reduction in Backspin.
Practice on a real table... That is the only way you are going to know which is YOUR dice set, and know when to make changes in the middle of a session, when you feel confident about your throw, it takes a lot of time of practice and a lot dice sets to get your grip on what works for you specifically. people should save their money that are trying to invest on craps seminars and buy them selfs a real table and practice because that is the only way you are going to get your SET.. and not by what other people tells them what works for them.. good video...!
YOUR dice set along with all the others are STILL RANDOM. LMAO
You should tell us how far to skip the sermon to get to the sets
Nice technique
Try Baby powder on your hands before touching The Dice...for keeping dice together
Check out craps Hawaii got some great stratagiies8
I keep a piece of the fat chalkboard chalk in my pocket. FYI don't put it in your pocket with coins. :) No one ever notices you putting your hand in your pocket between shots. It is just enough powder to not be noticed on your fingers.
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Great video. I'm a new Subscriber 😎💯💯💯🔥
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Had too go back and revisit this.. getting ready to go in 3weeks. I'm hopeful we can get there. Hopefully see you back soon.. goodluck
Let’s see if I’m allowed to upload and share!
Try Baby powder on your hands for sticky Dice..
3/6 3/2, hard table, SL1, 3 finger grip, minimal rotation, shooting to corner, landing flat and easy 2-3 inches from rubber hit hard6 4x hard10 2x with 10+ throws b4 7.
2nd time 3/6 3/5 same technique hit Yo and Aussie yo (ie horn bet) 3 times each, with 18+ throws b4 7.
anyone with similar results?
Lmao this is hysterical..I was wondering if the dice know that they need to land a certain way..can you predict lottery numbers..I can’t believe there’s still one born every minute
What's up Toro. New sub here. Love your channel. Bone thrower name is Mark🤙🤙🤘🤘
Hey Mike, welcome to the channel.... sorry for the delay in getting back to you on the comments. I appreciate you in sharing Bone Throwers name. I'll reach out to Mark and see if he would like to collaborate on anything.
Thanks again for the positive feedback.
Hi El Toro,
I just watched your video and will share some of my personal views about the claims that you make. First of all the. most important concession that you make occurs at the 2:49 point of your video. Quote: "There is no way you can control them (the dice) but then you contradict yourself by claiming that you can influence the outcome just after you noted that they bounce randomly. If the dice bounce randomly, there no control or influence that you are imparting to the dice. Consider my thoughts below:
After watching a few videos about dice control, I have come to the conclusion that individuals who endorse dice control have no comprehension of the concept of randomness. My comments on dice control hopefully will provide an understanding that dice control is not improbable but impossible. Some individuals stress the importance of maintaining the same axis on the dice when tossing them. It does not matter whether or not the same axis is maintained. There are so many other variables to consider in the toss:
-how much force is used
-how high the dice are tossed
-where the dice strike the table before contacting the back wall
-where the dice strike the back wall
-which pyramid and which part of the pyramid each die strikes
-where each die comes to rest
-how many bounces and turns each die completes before coming to rest
-how many chips the dice encounter
-how firm/soft/bouncy is the table
-etc.
If a player is unable to control just one of these variables, he will be unable to
practise dice control. In an attempt to convince others of the possibility of dice control, I would like to see just one proponent of dice control to create a video recorded in slow motion which documents the action of the dice on each toss i.e. record the results relating to all of the variables mentioned above and variables that I haven't mentioned
I have a suggestion. Use two different coloured dice, one red and one green.
Let’s make it even easier. Assume that on each toss, the red always shows a five. Now the shooter simply has to control the green die and have it show any
number other than a two to avoid the dreaded seven out. Conduct this experiment over many thousands of rolls to more closely simulate results due to probability and graph how often the seven appears. If a sufficient number of rolls are made, then the seven should appear in the ratio of once every six rolls. If the ratio is much less than 1:6 a player may insist that he is controlling the dice. However, remember in the example the red die is already fixed (controlled) by setting it on the five.
I have watched videos in which after the creator of the video sevens out, he tries to explain the seven by claiming he did something wrong on the toss. Truly moronic behaviour.
Remember Patricia Demauro? In May 2009 the grandmother played at the Borgota in Atlantic City and rolled the dice 154 times (over four hours) to set the record for the longest roll. Was she controlling the dice? No!!! This was only her second time to shoot craps.
There will be short rolls and there will be long rolls. No one can predict whether a roll will be short or long. Lady Luck is your friend and only she determines how successful/unsuccessful a shooter will be.
Proponents of dice control are delusional.
P.S. - I urge you to Google the video "Betting On Random Shooter." I am sure that you will appreciate how anything can happen
at a craps table without so called "dice control."
Just happened upon your vid. Dang, I wanted this to be a bit better vid. I really appreciate your knowledge, and I did pick up some dice setting tips, but it was long, a lot of over-explaining, little demonstration, and when there was a toss both your throw and the results were out-of-camera. I will look for other vids from you and hope to be able to watch and follow your mechanics and tips. Thanks for the vid, though!
Hey Jeff, I appreciate your input. I’m new to UA-cam so I haven’t geared up correctly. Everything is shot from my phone. Working on getting two cameras for a better perspective of my throwing and landing area.
Thanks again for the positive feedback.
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Every roll is RANDOM
that’s like saying every bet is random
Bet pass and don't pass with the same $$ and practice all day with life table. Only 12 can let you loose, but it will be cost for practice
I appreciate the lecture and the demonstration BUT I WOULD like to see how you ACTUALLY DO with your technique by actually FILMING your throws to DEMONSTRATE it's EFFICACY!!! So in other words, what I am saying is that I would like to see you do at LEAST 20-30 throws 5 times to see how often out of your throws it takes you to seven-out!!! I have heard and read that the average person takes about 6. something throws or is it 6.23 throws before someone throws a 7 so if it takes you at least 11+ throws before you throw a 7, then you are doing fairly well and if it's 15+, then you are doing VERY WELL with your technique. So I would suggest you make a video demonstrating your technique for 30 throws - and do this 5 times for the whole video for a total of 150 throws - to see how you actually do and you can do this by setting up 2 cameras - 1 showing your technique and the other at the end of the table with a CLEAR view that will show the completed outcome of your resulting throws so we can ALL see if your technique is as good as you say it is since you have ALL the necessary equipment as seen on this video - the craps table, chips, dice, stick, etc... OR if you DON'T have 2 cameras for that purpose, have either one of your family members or one of your good friends film it with the one camera you have and have them follow your every move form the throw to the final result at the other end of the table! So PLEASE do this for us as your PROOF!
Dice seting woks $$$$ benny's in my hand.
You and bone thrower are the only two that tells everyone that practice practice because if you don't then you don't know what we are doing
Thomas Tokarz , just want to be clear. Folks may know what they’re doing as far as playing the game. I’m referencing more, folks not knowing what they’re doing when it comes to shooting the dice. Hopefully I didn’t offend, wasn’t my intention.
Thanks again for the positive feedback.
Thomas tokarz and neither of them understand sime probability.
Set the dice , drop them 3 inches and you'll have random.