[Eng Sub] Ryushen's advice for some LGBTQ+ problems
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Original video: • お悩み相談をする緑仙
Correction:
At 4:23 the comment actually says “I’m victim so it’s hard to say this, but LGBTQ+ people please do not force homosexuality on straight people” (Thank you Haru Natsume).
Sorry for the mistake, and thanks for the correction!
Time stamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:55 Straight girls
05:01 Genderless
07:55 Same-sex confession
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I'm not very good at English, so I'd like to ask a question.
Does the sentence at 4:23 mean to condemn straight people?
If so, it is a mistranslation and meaning is opposite
No it’s about straight people “using” this lgbtq person to try out being gay(trying gay sex I assume) and that it hurts this person.
@@lovetokawaii
Thanks for the reply.
So you mean the person who made the comment is LGBTQ+ person?
@@harunatsume5562 No problem and yes they’re LGBTQ based on the comment.
@@lovetokawaii
I think that is misunderstanding.
I guess the person who wrote the comment is a straight person talking about LGBTQ+ people.
@@harunatsume5562 ‘some straight people use me to try it out’ implies that they’re gay/bi and that they’re the ones being used since they wrote it like straight people = other. As in straight people identify as something else than me.
Ryushen has a lot of good advices wow. Ryushen is so wise, I really like Ryushen!
I don't think we should see a person from their gender, but on what kind person they are.
I agree 100% with Ryushen at the last problem, if you're continuing to be friends with someone that have a feeling for you it'll probably ended up hurting them. It's better to cut the friendship.
But also like Ryushen said it might on the person too
"It's better to cut them off"
"But it depends on the person"
So disregard the advice is what you are saying. This is why you shouldnt give advice on specific scenarios you arent fully aware of. Every situation is unique, because humans are unique. General pointers are a thing, but you cant make any definite claims unless it is clear how unhealthy something really is.
In this case, the advice seeker is clearly homophobic, so perhaps cutting the other person off is better for _them_ anyway, but there needs to be a lot more consideration put into all sides. I hope that people who take advice from Vtubers will not just base their decisions on that. A stranger can rarely give you the answers to personalized problems.
I like this mindset, I think we can get too bogged down in whatever labels it is we attribute to ourselves and others, when really we are all working towards the same goal. We want to be happy, we want to keep living, that's true for us all.
I think that's the major problem we're having in today's society. It's all too focused on the skin colour of a person or the gender of a person or sexual orientation of a person. Rather than the person themselves. We've become so identity starved that in the process, have all robbed ourselves of our own identity as people.
@@HakunonMatata ... you are aware that these things were worse in the past? People always complain about identity politics, but that is preferable over tyrannical enforcement of just one identity that is prefered. Of course " everyone should be equal" is the correct approach, but in that case, to achieve that, those who were not equal before have to be raised up to get on eye-level first and for that you need to acknowledge their identity and the struggles that this identity brings with it.
If you think skin color is more of a focal point today than it was 50 years ago, you dont study history very well.
@@yoursonisold8743 No shit it was worse in the past. I'm black and bi sexual myself. I've fucking lived through it my whole life.
I don't need someone who is known for starting fights constantly on UA-cam comments to feel better about themselves like some redditor to point out something I am VERY much aware of. That doesn't mean I have to start liking the lesser of two evils either.
Whether I agree with Ryushen's opinions or advice aside, it is incredible that a Vtuber can openly talk about these topics at all. These are by no means things people in entertainment ever talk about in Japan. Anonymity gives the fearful or outcasted a voice.
And just as Ryushen said, when it gets so bad that depression, suicidal thoughts or self-harm are involved, always make contact with professionals. There are hotlines for those in almost all 1st world countries. And for those who live in places... less understanding, please try to find some help online. There is a network for LGBTQ out there. You aren't alone.
they are so wise it’s incredible 😭
I sincerely hate having to put a label on myself. I know what I am on the inside and nothing will change that. However, rather than having to correct someone because of what I consider myself, If someone says something I don't agree with, I just say "I don't like it" rather than "I am X therefore I don't like it."
It's a tricky subject but basically like Ryushen said, I'd rather be accepted for being a human being than being accepted strictly what gender I identify as. It strips away your identity as a person and makes you defined by your gender.
Honestly at this point, any label I put on myself is so I can just give a quick answer when people ask. Idk what my sexuality really is and idc but just saying I’m bi helps keep people from getting nosy lmao
Thank god Ryushen and Nijisanji exist
Lets all take a moment to appreciate how the comments are translated too-
Ryushen's so incredible
This was all really good advice up until the end, in my opinion. I'm not sure how I feel about them saying to dismiss their homophobia like that like it's nothing; I really think there is reflection to be done when you say to yourself "I find same sex partnerships disgusting". Why do you find them disgusting? That disgust and hatred towards the topic can certainly be un-taught. I think it would be valuable to all parties involved if they just reflected on that.
Otherwise, all fairly good advice.
yeah but i think maybe it could be because they live in a much more intolerant society when it comes to these issues, and not to mention on top of the non-confrontational attitude in their culture and lots of other things. Not to say that i agree with her, but honestly im just happy that im theres a discourse on it in the first place
@@tofuteh2348 Pretty much my thoughts. It felt like a very "japanese" way of adressing things
It is a rather common Japanese attitude indeed. "You aren't wrong of course" is a phrase necessary, as calling someone wrong, much like telling them "no" is not something generally acceptable in Japan. You always need to find a way around it. As long as things are smoothed over, it doesnt matter what people actually think, in the common mindset. The advice to not openly show your disgust is the most you can actually expect in such topics.
I don't blame Ryushen, it's probably an approach developed through a lot of hardship.
It was basically the nicest way of saying "you're probably never going to change and your mind is made up, so why bother?"
Like if you look at how the question was worded, they said bluntly that they find it disgusting but nothing about wanting to understand it more or be more accepting or if they might be wrong. Instead it was "can i continue this friendship even though i find them disgusting?" Their mind is already made up. No matter what Ryushen said to them, nothing was going to change it. It's fucked up and the person is clearly ignorant but it is what it is.
I feel that if the person wasn't attracted to the person asking the question and asked something like "can I still be friends with this person despite them liking guys/girls", if they had to ask the question, then that person asking is probably not worth being friends with honestly.
I think the point of what Ryushen was saying was for them to not be hard on themselves for their own natural feelings.
Some things just make some people feel uncomfortable and theres nothing they can do about it. And thats okay.
...the REAL problems arise when those feelings are internalized and acted upon in a way that negatively affects the way they think about or treat others.
I just dont think thats the case here. This person is clearly trying to be considerate to their friend and genuinely feels bad for them even if their initial gut reaction was "this is gross".
ryushen seems very mature and i feel like most of the advice given by them is quite unbiased and logical which is something i respect. the only thing i don't agree with is the fact that it's okay for someone to feel discomfort by same-sex relationships. it's somehow the same as telling someone that it's okay to be homophobic. that sort of advice can be a little harmful because we should try and preach equality and respect among everyone. rather than "it happens" "it's okay to be uncomfortable", it should be "learn to accept everyone" "why feel discomfort by someone else's life if it doesn't affect you?" you know what i mean? you can be whoever you want and we should learn to stop being so judgemental of things. if your gay friend tells you they like you and it makes you uncomfortable, try to ask yourself why and rather than being disgusted by their sexuality, try to accept them and understand them. you don't have to return their feelings but you also don't have to shun them for their sexuality. be there for your friends instead of pushing them away based on such things. it'll only make you seem ignorant.
i really genuinely do agree with you as a lesbian but there's a few reasons why they might've said that, 1 of them being that they're a vtuber from a corporation so they can't really just condemn this person for being homophobic, even though they should
2 if that's not the case environments shape people, ryushen being brought up in japan might affect their views on what is okay and what isn't. like in this case they might just genuinely not view it as a bad thing because it didn't occur to them that it is bad Or they view it as a "to each their own" kind of thing.
Im not saying it shouldn't be condemned because that's someone openly admitting to being homophobic on a. LGBT advice session but i don't think ryushen did it out of ignorance or malice. u know
Thanks for the subs!
love to see it
"genderless? What's inside your underwear then?"
-bigots
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@usdadsasda you'd be surprised, mate.
@usdadsasda facts
responsible & good advice
bro homophobic people still exists at 2021?? grow up, come on. also happy pride month sweethearts
Come visit my country when you can be absolutely rejected by society for being LGBT
-i need to get out from here-
@@derpedfox gasp yes leave your country and come to my arms instead darling
@@sayuri6920 who you lmao
@@sayuri6920 I wish it was that easy.
@@chickennuggets1990 do you mean leaving the country or coming into my arms 😳
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Its Been a While Jin :)
There are some absolutely awful takes in here, even by an LGBT person. Huge proof that Japan as a society needs to change to be less conservative and traditionalist so LGBT education can be properly taught
Please let people have their own opinion. It's almost like you want people to have your opinion only, and not their own. We're not in a tyranny or a dictature where when all have to think in a certain way.
So far I see only one absolutely horrible take in here, and, just in case, it's not mine or the person's in the video. *wink wink nudge nudge*
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