Ahsoka - Space Whales and Other Nonsense

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  • @TheLittlePlatoon
    @TheLittlePlatoon  Рік тому +222

    Thanks to Bag Face and Mr Brown for their help on this one. Links are in the description.
    Here’s hoping the capricious UA-cam gods don’t decide to slap restrictions on it this time.

    • @AngelsLance
      @AngelsLance Рік тому +21

      Glad to see the video is back. Thought I had a stroke or something when I went to watch this yesterday and could only find part 2.

    • @matthewcollins4773
      @matthewcollins4773 Рік тому +15

      "The episode breakdown no longer appears on our scopes!"
      "Impossible! No critique that eloquent has a cloaking device."
      *LittlePlatoon floats safely off towards the viewing audience*

    • @SerraMonsoon
      @SerraMonsoon Рік тому +4

      ​@@AngelsLancesame, I was very confused ! Hopefully UA-cam gods will be merciful on this one.

    • @avmesias
      @avmesias Рік тому +4

      Yess ThelittlePlatoon on top 🗣🔥🔥🐐

    • @Chanksss
      @Chanksss Рік тому +5

      Leave assoka alone.😂😭 You destroyed them enough Platoon.

  • @Jawz2308
    @Jawz2308 Рік тому +625

    To paraphrase a better villain; "If everyone's Force Sensitive, *evil laugh* no one will be..."

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Рік тому +61

      Syndrome was right, along with Thanos.

    • @Kyle-sr6jm
      @Kyle-sr6jm Рік тому +43

      It is like they never bothered to think about the WHY of the things that were written in the OT.
      The Jedi Order existed, but to have a story, a relatable, relatively contained story, they had to be trimmed down to a remnant.
      Same with the Sith, limited to 2.
      Disney is too dense to even give it a thought.

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx Рік тому +22

      @@Kyle-sr6jm People like [thing] so let's flood the screen/story with [thing] is about as far as they go with the thinking process.

    • @chazzitz-wh4ly
      @chazzitz-wh4ly Рік тому +22

      Syndrome was a true visionary. Dude was ahead of his time.

    • @613-shadow9
      @613-shadow9 Рік тому +1

      actually, if everyone is force sensitive, then everyone would be.

  • @biotrekker
    @biotrekker Рік тому +298

    Sabine's outfit is more revealing of the fact that she has virtually no muscular definition, unlike, say, Terminator 2's Sarah Conner, nor does she have the presence of Aliens' Ripley. When Sarah Conner kicks the crap out of the psych ward personnel, you believe she could do it. When Ripley gears up in the elevator to rescue Newt, you believe she can handle two (!) heavy-duty weapons duct taped together (one of my all-time favorite scenes, BTW). Sabine is supposed to be part of a warrior cult - what is it I believe sabine can do, other than pout?

    • @AJTalon
      @AJTalon Рік тому +59

      She can look smug! Wait, is that just another form of pout?

    • @TheLittlePlatoon
      @TheLittlePlatoon  Рік тому +85

      I’m not sure she can even pout.

    • @Darkstar-se6wc
      @Darkstar-se6wc Рік тому +10

      Look good in a pair of pants?

    • @Uzarran
      @Uzarran Рік тому +44

      That's an overall criticism I have with the actors on this show. Not so much the actors themselves, but rather the training they were put through by the studios. It's very clear they weren't prepped for the physical nature of these roles. Just look at Rosario Dawson's saber-work for proof.

    • @billjacobs521
      @billjacobs521 Рік тому +40

      @@Uzarran It's funny watching Hayden do it better than her, so many years after he learned it.

  • @ShadowSaberBaroxio
    @ShadowSaberBaroxio Рік тому +585

    You're absolutely right; Ashoka training Jacen Syndulla would have been an immeasurably better show than Ashoka training Sabine.

    • @waveman0
      @waveman0 Рік тому +29

      I couldn't agree more, this is what the show needed and would have solved so many issues. Plus we needed a better writing team than what the show had, for all Dave Felloni's supposed character knowledge (he developed these characters) he could not have written them in a worse way.

    • @darkdwarf007
      @darkdwarf007 Рік тому +32

      The concept is better, but they would just butcher it in a number of other ways

    • @George-um2vc
      @George-um2vc Рік тому +61

      Jacen is male though, Disney does not build UP male characters, only bring them down, Jacen dodged a bullet.

    • @waveman0
      @waveman0 Рік тому +7

      @@darkdwarf007 yes with the current writing team most assuredly.

    • @waveman0
      @waveman0 Рік тому +8

      @@George-um2vc agreed, that is the current trend and how Disney Star Wars is always playing out.

  • @rpgarchaeology6049
    @rpgarchaeology6049 Рік тому +269

    I was one of those player Bounty Hunters in Star Wars Galaxies. That felt like a big achievement too because there was a lot of grinding and quests to become a full-fledged BH. But it was awesome. Jedi were rare, and Bounty Hunters sometimes had to work together to bring them down because they were so good. Loved it.
    CU killed the game.

    • @TheLittlePlatoon
      @TheLittlePlatoon  Рік тому +72

      I’m jealous you got to play it before it was wrecked!

    • @chazzitz-wh4ly
      @chazzitz-wh4ly Рік тому +24

      I keep hear how that was the quintessential Star Wars game and I hate that I never knew of it until a few years ago.

    • @drlca6601
      @drlca6601 Рік тому +34

      SWG was not only a GREAT game, but a game that shows exactly how to make things work in an MMO. Perfect economy, player builts cities, space warfare and most importantly, a rich sandbox environment. If only I could get my Legends launcher working again. The game was best after Trials and NGE completely destroyed SWG.

    • @yagamifire7861
      @yagamifire7861 11 місяців тому +2

      Yuuuuup was a BH too. Then dropped it like a hot rock

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Рік тому +220

    31:27 You really captured the “I want to die” grumble of Harrison Ford. Hats off to you!

    • @TheLittlePlatoon
      @TheLittlePlatoon  Рік тому +62

      I’m reviewing Ahsoka. Of course I want to die.

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 Рік тому +14

      Jokes on you, I want to die and I haven't even seen this show. @@TheLittlePlatoon

    • @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
      @Werewolf.with.Internet.Access 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jonbaxter2254
      Hahahaaha
      There, you got your chuckles. Now go to therapy, please.

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 11 місяців тому

      Injure yourself.@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access

  • @ItotheCtotheE
    @ItotheCtotheE Рік тому +167

    When Hera was complaining to the senators about how bad Thrawn was during the war for having killed her friends, I wanted Mon Mathma to yell out, "Bicth I pimped my own daughter to the son of a gangster! Don't talk to me about the evils of war"

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 Рік тому +40

      I can't really see Mothma being that whiny. Also, it would require _this_ Mon Mothma to be the same character (or at least _have_ the same character) as the Mon Mothma of _Andor._

    • @billjacobs521
      @billjacobs521 Рік тому +31

      The daugher seemed pretty happy about it, honestly. She was a spoiled princess marrying a spoiled rich kid. But that was a weak argument by a fucking GENERAL. Leia lost her ENTIRE FUCKING HOME PLANET and took it better.

    • @ggt47
      @ggt47 Рік тому +10

      Hera:...
      Hera:Still this affected *me* .

    • @DannyEastes
      @DannyEastes Рік тому +32

      That would require Dave Filoni reading anyone else's script or understanding star wars

    • @ggt47
      @ggt47 11 місяців тому +7

      @@DannyEastes Filoni new name for me is Dave Baloney. Because he is full of it. Anyway...
      DAVE BALONEY: I mean... should I really be made to read others works to write a story in *MY* universe.

  • @murrfox
    @murrfox Рік тому +57

    When you began talking about "anyone becoming a jedi" i immediately thought of Star Wars Galaxies. I was not expecting that to immediately be brought up right as i started remembering it haha
    It was such a treat to see the first Jedi on my server and when my best friend in the guild attained it after *MONTHS* of work, we celebrated him, it was such a momentous achievement.
    Then they just... gave it to everyone a couple of years later. It was such a kick to the teeth.
    God i miss that game in its old iteration.

    • @DuplexWeevil337
      @DuplexWeevil337 10 місяців тому +1

      Someone should make a remake of it in its old version.

    • @murrfox
      @murrfox 10 місяців тому +2

      @DuplexWeevil337 There are several! Look up Star Wars Galaxies 2023, some of note are Legends and Stardust. There's Restoration of course but it's a tiny bit toxic

  • @matthewcollins4773
    @matthewcollins4773 Рік тому +121

    Wonderful breakdown of how the scarcity of the Jedi is key to their narrative appeal. I didn't know the background of Galaxies, and that history you related is both depressing and oh so typical. There was a reason why the Mass Effect roleplay forum I spent 10 years on forbade any character who was too high-profile or well-connected.

    • @PaulieMcCoy
      @PaulieMcCoy Рік тому +8

      Before NGE and a certain point, to become a Jedi or unlock force powers was kept secret. Upon creation of a character, 4 randomized professions had to be mastered before you could go that route. The devs were extremely tight lipped about it. There were in-game mechanics that were hints but I don't think anyone knew or were initially told what item or event gave the hint to the one profession to grind to unlock it. The ability for players to join a faction (Empire or Rebel) or a guild to join a faction and the player based economy (most items, made by other players such as weapons, healing items with a marketplace) made things very unique and great. I joined Empire and got to summon a stormtrooper, higher level and faction affinity you could call an AT-ST in. It really loaned itself to a certain level of natural roleplay. I left before NGE as I had IRL stuff going on and figuring out the economy was a bit confusing for some. I think you wanted to mine for materials and become a tycoon in that if nobody had done so, yet. It was very innovative in these regards. Cheers.

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Рік тому +136

    *Disney lore: if you’re correct, you’re obviously either a covert enemy or need to be taught a lesson until you’re wrong.*
    Room 101 rings a bell.

  • @professor_artoo
    @professor_artoo Рік тому +143

    In this episode we are told that training without your eyesight is a technique called "Zatoichi" which is clearly named after the fictional blind Japanese swordsman. To me, this is even more infuriating than the use of the term "ronin" by Thrawn later in the series.

    • @thefilthyrhombus3856
      @thefilthyrhombus3856 Рік тому +40

      I caught that too and couldn't help but grimace. You just know Dave thought he was being so clever and cool with that one.
      Also yeah, the Ronin line is very stupid as well. Seeing as how it's Jedi knight, Thrawn should call her an errant. That's closer to what Ahsoka actually is considering she's still heroic and follows an ethical code. Ronin were more often than not rather shady as they had to do something to lose their status as Samurai and then usually do more shady things just to survive.

    • @CoreUsGaming
      @CoreUsGaming 11 місяців тому +11

      The dialogue in this series Legitimately comes across as a first draft with no revisions.
      Would be even worse if they found a way to shoehorn the title of the series, if it weren’t the titular characters name.
      Ex: The Show was called Star Wars: World Between Worlds
      Anakin Skinwalker: “Live Or Die”
      Ahsoka: “Anakin?!”
      “Anakin: Don’t you get It snips?!
      You are the world between worlds!!”

    • @MariaIsabellaZNN
      @MariaIsabellaZNN 11 місяців тому +9

      This is even worse than the game "Star Wars: Masters of Teräs Käsi", which means "Steel Hand" in Finnish, but at least that wasn't an actual existing thing so.... pass I guess?

    • @graphixkillzzz
      @graphixkillzzz 11 місяців тому +2

      so, Ahsoka's katana-like hilts didn't tell you the direction the show was heading? 🤔🤷🙇

    • @ceasarsaran8573
      @ceasarsaran8573 11 місяців тому +1

      @@thefilthyrhombus3856 Well, that isn't true at all. Many Ronin did nothing at all. Some higher up could get mad at your entire clan, and there you go.

  • @JohnDoe-fo7yi
    @JohnDoe-fo7yi 11 місяців тому +36

    Thank you SO MUCH for the comment about SW Galaxies, it was literally on my lips when you mentioned it. Its one of the most concise examples of "Give people what they need, not what they want". I'll share a story about my time during SW Galaxies. It was in the early days where Jedi & Sith were basically rumors. A major fight in Mos Eisley breaks out; AT-STs, tons of stormtroopers, tons of rebels, laser blasts going off on each side...and then...a red light saber appears...everyone loses it! THEN...a green light saber goes off and for many, the first and last jedi duel they'll see with their own eyes begins and EVERYONE LOST THEIR MINDS! It became a sort of mythical event that people kept talking about for weeks. No other game ever recreated this, and might never do so.
    This sequence was so special BECAUSE it was rare to see it, BECAUSE it was in universe that they were rare, made you feel like you were in Star Wars, not a game. If anything, It also motivated the few insane enough to do the necessary work to become one even more. It was a glorious example of a game being designed with the laws of that IP in mind...and then in later versions as Syndrome said so magnificently : When everyone is special, no one is.

    • @CardinalBiggles01
      @CardinalBiggles01 4 місяці тому +2

      Brilliant. I loved SWG before NGE and CU. Like you i remember the rumours on how to become a Jedi (turns out through holocrons it was mastering several random professions specific to every player). But it was months before i saw my first force user. Seem to remember the fist player to unlock it was kind of by accident.
      In the meantime i was happy making droids.

    • @JohnDoe-fo7yi
      @JohnDoe-fo7yi 4 місяці тому +2

      @@CardinalBiggles01 heh. Of course, this whole idea if making the force as rare as the actual lore only works if the other classes were good and they very much succeeded at that. Its one of my favorite MMO experiences. The way the different professions meshed together and forced organic social interactions, like everyone gathering at the cantinas to heal via the performers, thus merchants would advertise their stores there, that's where you'd look for groups to qu'est or hunt kraits...just something some mature and thought out.
      Loved it.

    • @CardinalBiggles01
      @CardinalBiggles01 4 місяці тому +2

      @@JohnDoe-fo7yi Exactly. Even when it became known how to unlock Jedi, I never once considered doing it. Having far too much fun with the professions. The community was great fun, even just hanging out in the cantinas. I've played lots of MMOs and what SOE did to that game for me still remains one of the worst gaming crimes I've seen. So sad

    • @JohnDoe-fo7yi
      @JohnDoe-fo7yi 4 місяці тому +2

      @@CardinalBiggles01 Yeah. If you're interested, there are some private servers out there that run pre-NGE/CU update SWG. I played for a while and honestly it was pretty good.

  • @Steamplague
    @Steamplague Рік тому +133

    All hail the platoon! He’s become quite the Longman

    • @jeffsorrows
      @jeffsorrows Рік тому +3

      Haha I look forward to this dropping than the actual episodes, just like I was waiting for CharlieHopkinson to drop his NotObiWan videos of obi/qui/anakin reacting to the shows and movies

    • @MediumRareOpinions
      @MediumRareOpinions Рік тому +14

      The long awaited sequel, Longman 2:The Lengthening

    • @Matthew10950
      @Matthew10950 11 місяців тому +2

      That's what she said!
      Uh, I mean HE said, I guess.
      Whatever makes you happy.

  • @mkb4560
    @mkb4560 Рік тому +64

    And if Jacen is the Jedi in training then Sabine could have stayed a mandolorian that can fight and hit what they shoot at

  • @KirkWarren
    @KirkWarren Рік тому +74

    Asohka is like kung-pow - trained sabine wrong as a joke off screen.

    • @Uzarran
      @Uzarran Рік тому +11

      "Again with the squeaky shoes?"

    • @Schniedragon88
      @Schniedragon88 Рік тому +12

      "Just because someone gets stabbed with a lightsaber, doesn't mean that person is dead."

    • @daviddiggens8841
      @daviddiggens8841 11 місяців тому +6

      Kung pow lol. It all makes sense now. In kung pow a man can survive with his entire "stomach plug" punched out so the light saber thing follows logically if it is the same universe. 😂
      All we need now is Sabine to say " I'm just a horny little honey weooo weooo" and it be perfect

  • @dronesclubhighjinks
    @dronesclubhighjinks Рік тому +55

    "It's a recipe for disaster and Feloni is an expert cook."
    This is one of your best videos, and that is saying a lot! Especially enjoyed the scene comparison at the beginning, your reasons why Jacen should've been the main character, why less Jedis are better referencing the video game I've never heard of, and your laser cannon thing analysis.
    Mixed with your humour and editing, this is an absolute masterpiece!
    I wish the writers and Feloni would watch this!
    Thank you so much for this video and for all you do!
    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @peterpidrak9501
    @peterpidrak9501 Рік тому +24

    26:00 one of the big problems is that the writers lost a perfect opportunity when Hera is question for her to give actual background on why Thrawn is a threat. Instead, she brings a personal things which backs up the senator asking if this is a personal crusade.
    How much better would it have been for her to describe actions? He had taken to show how he is a genius and a threat.
    The senator could’ve questioned the possibility of a non-human being able to unite the imperial remnant.
    I was just thinking that if you were just watching the show with no reference to rebels or any of the books, you might not even realize Thron wasn’t human.

  • @deeskman1549
    @deeskman1549 Рік тому +308

    let’s hope this one doesn’t disappear like the last

    • @nobodyspecial4676
      @nobodyspecial4676 Рік тому +7

      maybe dont put a butt in the thumbnail🤷‍♂️

    • @Justguro
      @Justguro Рік тому

      ​@@nobodyspecial4676but the show is ass

    • @Durvington
      @Durvington Рік тому

      @@nobodyspecial4676maybe shut your lousy trap 😮😮😮

    • @treylo1995
      @treylo1995 Рік тому +13

      It's good when that happens though because it lets you know that he's doing something right that is scaring the studio.

    • @Highweaver2
      @Highweaver2 Рік тому +2

      @@treylo1995 ?

  • @billjacobs521
    @billjacobs521 Рік тому +44

    I like how Ahsoka's spacesuit specifically has parts for that cat on her head to fit in to. Totally seems like a reasonable use of resources.

    • @alexpowers5117
      @alexpowers5117 Рік тому +3

      Offcourse she has cat iam not surprised

    • @cambelloroxy9420
      @cambelloroxy9420 11 місяців тому +5

      Calling it “cat” shows you have no clue about her anatomy…

    • @seafoam6119
      @seafoam6119 11 місяців тому +4

      @@cambelloroxy9420to be fair, wtf is her anatomy?

    • @cambelloroxy9420
      @cambelloroxy9420 11 місяців тому +6

      @@seafoam6119 well she is a Togruta and the montrals atop of her head and the lekku that sprout downwards are important ( just like the lekku are important for Twi’leks)

    • @Сайтамен
      @Сайтамен 11 місяців тому +1

      You think if the helmet was simply huge it would require less resourses? Less air, for example?

  • @jefe8113
    @jefe8113 Рік тому +77

    You actually forgot that Sabine was trained by her sudo-father figure kanan jarus, who was a blind Jedi, she has done all this before… when she was fighting for something far more emotional, her family’s survival. She should have shown force prowess then but she didn’t and had to make up for it with a vibro ship to grab her dark saber and jetpack to match Kanan’s jedi abilities. The fact she doesn’t recognize that here in DAVE’s magnum opus is insanity. It’s like a completely disconnected show from the material it came from.

    • @corruptangel6793
      @corruptangel6793 11 місяців тому +17

      Let's be real, Dave's Magnum Opus was TCW, and that was due to the creative filter that was George Lucas

    • @davidcatabui2018
      @davidcatabui2018 11 місяців тому +1

      @@corruptangel6793this was marketed as Dave's Magnum Opus as it was the first thing he had more or less unencumbered creative control over

    • @corruptangel6793
      @corruptangel6793 11 місяців тому +1

      @@davidcatabui2018 He didn't have that with Rebels?

    • @davidcatabui2018
      @davidcatabui2018 11 місяців тому

      @@corruptangel6793 I have no idea whether he did or not it just seemed from what little I heard from the commentariat and news coverage that Ahsoka was the first of its kind

    • @dannyknightblade4592
      @dannyknightblade4592 11 місяців тому +5

      Sad that Dave himself doesn't seem to remember things he wrote years ago for The Clone Wars animated series.

  • @craigjohnston5781
    @craigjohnston5781 Рік тому +23

    "Mando-boarding"! Call me a thief, but I am 100% using that at some point in the near future!😂

  • @elderforest617
    @elderforest617 Рік тому +29

    The revelation that everyone can use the force reminded me of the bicycle repair man sketch from Monty Python in the world full of Supermen.

    • @KRobinson-ko1ne
      @KRobinson-ko1ne 5 місяців тому +1

      That’s why i struggled to get behind the EU: Everyone was a Jedi
      I am the most persistent Jedi sympathizer but I didn’t think every character had to become a Jedi eventually. Furthermore I thought it was cheap that Jedi characters wed and switched between light and dark with little to no consequences
      Its no surprise it was made in George’s absence

  • @barefootbear1227
    @barefootbear1227 Рік тому +41

    Right off the bat, I love the breakdown of A New Hope in the begining. Makes me want a scene by scene breakdown of A New Hope, I'd watch the shit out of that. Had to pause to say that, on to the rest!

    • @TheLittlePlatoon
      @TheLittlePlatoon  Рік тому +18

      I dunno if I could add much there. But The Phantom Menace turns 25 next year…

    • @shadowgamer4306
      @shadowgamer4306 Рік тому +4

      @@TheLittlePlatoonI am looking forward to that video

  • @laroncarter4082
    @laroncarter4082 Рік тому +22

    Man i felt that in my soul when said " imagining the show we could've got is painful"

  • @mikehoffler4097
    @mikehoffler4097 Рік тому +50

    Yes, Mug was the best actor in that episode, and had the best range as well.

    • @matthewcollins4773
      @matthewcollins4773 Рік тому +3

      I remember the actor in his role as Wisdom on The Venture Brothers. He was great in that too.

    • @AmeliaBodilia
      @AmeliaBodilia Рік тому +2

      Fun fact: Asians of various cultures believe that if the mug is too hot to hold, the tea is too hot to drink.

  • @devonhickey3302
    @devonhickey3302 11 місяців тому +19

    I played SW Galaxies at launch and you're 100% spot on with how it went. I quit shortly after becoming Force Sensitive. But I loved, loved, LOVED my Doctor/Swordsman build. I know Teras-Kasi/Rifleman waa OP af, but I still loved my build. And my Tailor. So much fun just flipping mining & crafting, lol.

    • @TheLittlePlatoon
      @TheLittlePlatoon  11 місяців тому +8

      I’m unspeakably jealous of everyone who got to play it back when it was good!

    • @devonhickey3302
      @devonhickey3302 11 місяців тому +4

      @@TheLittlePlatoon Oh, and fun fact: the launch method for becoming a Jedi was hyped by being a big secret- and it turned out that you just had to master something like 25 professions on your character. Which, while dumb, was kind of brilliant in a way because if they TOLD us that, everyone would just grind out professions as opposed to us just choosing and playing the professions we were interested in. Hence folks like me having multiple characters- a crafter, a healer and a dps type.

  • @khandmo
    @khandmo Рік тому +18

    I think it's also super horrendous given Luke's difficulty in episode 5. At the beginning of the movie THE SON OF THE CHOSEN ONE struggles to force pull his lightsaber out of snow maybe 5 feet away from him. Non sensitive Sabine force pushes a whole dude like 30 feet into the air with no training? Shit like this is why I can use tyhe word ruin when it comes to the handling of this IP.

    • @Dan_theSandwichman
      @Dan_theSandwichman 11 місяців тому +3

      To be fair, Luke was just bitch slapped by a yeti beforehand. I've been knocked out, and the moments just after regaining consciousness aren't the easiest.

  • @NickRomero304
    @NickRomero304 Рік тому +17

    That little Dooku bit you did sent me! 🤣🤣 Your humor and W takes are spot on, my friend.

  • @PebkioNomare
    @PebkioNomare Рік тому +16

    Well, it's obvious why Ashoka didn't tell Luke about her hunt for Thrawn or what evidence she'd already uncovered or asked him for help. Because none of those things were actually happening back when they shot that scene.
    Now that I think about it, I can't really understand why Thrawn's return is important to anyone. I get why it was important in the old Expanded Universe. Because Thrawn had a trilogy where he appeared out of nowhere and nearly took back the galaxy from the New Republic in less than a year. A threat above the rest, as it were. So when Luke learned that a cult had some clones ready to go, it made sense to make stopping his return their highest priority. But in the new expanded universe he was just a philosophical general with a few smaller-scale victories and eventually lost to a *padawan.* Not exactly the galaxy-bending threat worthy of a cult.

    • @PebkioNomare
      @PebkioNomare Рік тому +2

      It can be argued that Thrawn's trilogy started the Expanded Universe and renewed interest in the Star Wars universe. A geeky interest to be sure, but a welcome one. And *that* is why he's important to the Disney Star Wars creators now. Not because because of anything they've had him do in the new stuff, but because Timothy Zahn wrote an amazing character that brought money back into the franchise.

    • @TheNoonish
      @TheNoonish 10 місяців тому +2

      @@PebkioNomareyeah, the reason Thrawn is a significant figure is all meta. The Empire is awaiting his return for meta reasons, because in a different story, he was a memorable antagonist.
      In the old canon, before Thrawn united the Imperial Remnants, the Empire was fracturing into different fiefdoms led by warlords. Thrawn united their resources, gave them unity of purpose, and brought in a bunch of extra resources besides.
      In this new canon, they apparently have a sense of unity, purpose, and all the resources Thrawn will end up using. So there’s absolutely no reason they should be waiting on him, they should be actively fighting the Republic. And the Republic we’ve seen is absolutely ripe for conquest, so they would have an easy time. It’s all so poorly done.

  • @saddlerrye6725
    @saddlerrye6725 Рік тому +21

    The old version of the Force didn't rely on bloodlines either. As far as I know, the jedi weren't even allowed to marry or have children, how the heck would it be reliant on bloodlines??? It was like in Ratatouille: "Not everyone can become a jedi, but a jedi can come from anywhere." This obsessive need to make absolutelly everyone capable of everything needs to stop.

    • @johannesseyfried7933
      @johannesseyfried7933 11 місяців тому +6

      Exactly. It's why TLJ's "Everyone can have the Force, you don't need a special bloodline" was so funny to me.
      Because, YEAH, I know! Jedi weren't allowed to marry! Neither Yoda, nor Windu nor Obi-Wan came from some super special bloodline.

    • @duncanlutz3698
      @duncanlutz3698 11 місяців тому +5

      Well, in the EU, Jedi were forbidden from having attachments but were not forbidden from having kids. The old Jedi knew all to well that Froce sensitivity was an inheritable trait. So a jedi could have a "friend with benefits" minus the friend part. Any child born of the union that showed potential would be taken into the Order and trained. The rest of the kids were left with their normie parent or given up for adoption of both parents were Jedi.
      This lead to a rather hilarious character in SW:TOR. The head of hte Order in the game, Satele Shan, hooks up with this Commando she is seen fighting with in the promo cinematics. Their kid wasn't Force sensitive, so he grew up and joined the Republic as an operative...
      And OH BOY did Theron have mommy issues out the wazoo. The game did not in any way, shape, or form shy away from the psychological damage having a "proper" Jedi parent would inflict upon their kids. He had a massive chip on his shoulder and deep insecurity issues.
      Although that was all thousands of years before the movies. The practice had liked stopped entirely by them because of how... messy... it was. Jedi would be tempted to fall/leave the Order and the non-sensitive parts of the family would be extremely upset over the distant parent/partner.
      Honorable mention to Jolee Bendo from KOTOR 1. He became a Grey Jedi (left the Order/doesn't follow the Council) because he fell in love and started a family. He asserted that love isn't wrong and can strengthen a Jedi. Here is the quote:
      “Love doesn’t lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled...but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love... that’s what they should teach you to beware. But love itself will save you, not condemn you.”
      And going even deeper into the Deep Lore shows a time before the Council was even a thing and Jedi were free to have families. A powerful Sith engineered a massive Force Spell that left a massive ripple through the Force hit all the Jedi in the galaxy, tempting/confusing many to the Dark Side. In the aftermath of this attack, the Jedi as a whole grew ironically fearful and began impossing draconian methods to "protect" their Order from "Corruption." This is where the rules about only taking in young children, forbidding attachments, and strict adherence ot the Council and their teachings were enforced. Those that thought the Council were overreaching their authority or pointed out the deep flaws in their practices became the first Grey Jedi.
      That said... no, the series was never overly concerned with bloodlines either. The OT did follow a father/son dynamic, but the focus was much more on the story of overcoming generational trauma than the whole "space wizard dynasty" aspect. Just look at Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Ol' Creamy Sheev: none of them were apart of the Skywalker Dynasty nor any other known bloodlines. They simply were Force Users presumably sprouting up from any random family. Which is more or less tacitly confirmed within the Prequels. That huge Jedi Temple didn't deny Anakin because he was some dirty mongrel slave from an unimportant backwater: he was denied largely for being too old. And while some of the Jedi came from rich families, like "Count" Dooku, there was never an emphasis on dynasties and bloodlines. It was tacitly understood, by people with functioning brains, that a Jedi could be anyone from any family. While Force sensitivity was more likely to arise in certain bloodlines, it was never a hard requirement or even the norm. Most Jedi just arose from the faceless masses...
      Especially since the Jedi regularly shot themselves in the foot by largely forbidding Jedi, known carriers of the rare gene, from having kids. They were effectively placing a negative selection pressure against their own kind by taking most of their prime breeding stock out of the game. Which could have created an interesting parallel to explore within the Sith Empire. Of the EU, that is. The Sith were obsessed with bloodlines and could even have participated in state-sponsored breeding programs or otherwise heavily encouraged Sith to "go forth and multiply." This would, on theory, give themselves more numbers than the Jedi... except for their brutal training methods and cutthroat politics internally culls most of their potential members. Thus, rough parity would be achieved due to different methods reflecting the unique philosophies/world views of both factions... with deliberate emphasis on how horribly flawed both sides approached families. Jedi just never had kids because "attachments bad" and even lose members who chose family over the Order. Sith would have tons of kids only to see the families tear each other and themselves apart. Only the strong and cunning survive, so fellow students would murder each other, brothers would plot against one another, and children would usurp their parents. Effectively culling their greater numerical advantage while also effectively killing any hope of true cooperation between Sith.

    • @johannesseyfried7933
      @johannesseyfried7933 11 місяців тому +1

      @@duncanlutz3698 Though I don't think those old Sith Bloodlines were particularly strong.
      There were certainly some very powerful, old Sith, but the idea of "let's breed strong Sith to create even stronger Sith" that didn't quite work out.
      But their "Only the strong survive" mindset might have also been part of the problem.

    • @duncanlutz3698
      @duncanlutz3698 11 місяців тому +1

      @@johannesseyfried7933 I never said "breed better Sith."
      I was suggesting they simply breed MORE Sith. The genetic factor is rare, but it most definitely is genetic.
      So why wouldn't a militarist empire that sees their Force users as living weapons want more of them?
      In TOR period, the Sith Empire mandated all Force sensitives MUST be sent to the Academy for training. Anyone found knowingly harboring or hiding said Force Sensitive from the authorities would be summarily executed.
      I don't remember anything about Sith Lords/Ladies being encouraged to have children... but that might have been something the authors were deliberately trying to avoid due to... reasons. Especially the "Sith Lord and his harem of pregnant slave girls" one.

    • @johannesseyfried7933
      @johannesseyfried7933 11 місяців тому

      @@duncanlutz3698 You're probably right. I first thought about how elitist the old sith were, but then again.....by the time of the Sith Inquisitor they even let slaves into the Academy on Korriban because they were short on Sith.

  • @ggt47
    @ggt47 Рік тому +61

    The videos just keep getting better which is the opposite of the show.

    • @Undependable3
      @Undependable3 Рік тому

      Really? I thought the show got significantly better over time when I was actually engaged in the story.

    • @ggt47
      @ggt47 Рік тому +8

      @@Undependable3 There was barely any story here.

    • @grandarkfang_1482
      @grandarkfang_1482 Рік тому +6

      ​@@Undependable3what story?

    • @petriew2018
      @petriew2018 Рік тому +5

      @@Undependable3 then you accidentally clicked on a different show. The dead give away was you were watching something with a story....

    • @chazzitz-wh4ly
      @chazzitz-wh4ly Рік тому

      @Undependable3
      lol. You must have watched something else because it got worse. It all boiled down to basically Ahssoka’s entire quest meant nothing because they didn’t stop the bad guy and were barely an inconvenience. Sabine and Ahssoka got left on a planet with no way back. The whole thing is one contrivance after another.

  • @LMan8787
    @LMan8787 11 місяців тому +14

    3 seconds in and I’m already laughing my ass off:
    “Episode 3 is the best episode because nothing happens”
    Thanks Platoon!

  • @wwmandalore
    @wwmandalore Рік тому +16

    Originally, "lasers" in Star Wars are actually plasma "bolts" encased in a magnetic field that helps keep the plasma together. Once the field weakens, the plasma dispersed in an explosive manner. If I remember correctly, the Geonosian fighters don't normally fight in an atmosphere, hence why the bolts dispersed so quickly.

    • @billjacobs521
      @billjacobs521 Рік тому +5

      "Originally" they were lasers. People keep saying this but no one has yet to point me to where this is discussed in episodes 1-6.

    • @histguy101
      @histguy101 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@billjacobs521I think in ep3 the big guns on the ships have actual ammo of some kind

  • @ryandodrill6904
    @ryandodrill6904 11 місяців тому +22

    Listening to the scene with Hera and Jacen is kind of painful as a parent. That kind of dismissal of your own child makes you ask do you actually love and care for your kid? Has she spent her life just crushing his dreams and his spirit with no guilt or emotion at all? I know the show sucks and all but damn have none of the people working on this ever interacted with a child before?

    • @dragonhunter4592
      @dragonhunter4592 11 місяців тому +5

      This is how the modern Woke audience views children and parenthood.

    • @KRobinson-ko1ne
      @KRobinson-ko1ne 5 місяців тому +2

      Children exist to increase toy sales

  • @doexus5648
    @doexus5648 Рік тому +59

    To deal with your issues with hyperspace travel, there are varying degrees of strength when it comes to hyperdrives which translate to how fast past the speed of light a ship can go. The Millennium Falcon could be considered the benchmark for comparisons, if you want, since Han says it goes "point five past lightspeed" in the hangar on Tatooine and is considered its Class. This is partly what made the Falcon famous as one of the fastest vessels in Star Wars aside from later EU ships like the Jade Shadow and the Jabitha. It isn't clarified in the movies, but some assumptions can be easily made about relative ship speeds based on manufacturer and purpose. Military vessels would logically have very strong hyperdrives to be able to respond to calls to action faster, while commercial vessels would have more middle Class hyperdrives and can be upgraded or replaced depending on the owner. One of the slowest ships in the EU was known as the Mud Sloth, a ship Luke spent some time aboard with a woman while helping her find her lost Force sect, the Fallanassi, and for clues about who is mother was. It was noted that it took days to weeks to jump between planets in the books it featured in. Disney material has less of an excuse on hyperspace jump times as, as far as I know, no mention of a hyperdrive's capability has ever been mentioned.
    In short, the Expanded Universe had a frame of reference for different speeds through hyperspace for different ships, but Disney doesn't since the EU is now gone except when it's convenient. All they have is "point five past lightspeed", which could mean anything in their horribly incompetent hands.

    • @TOONYBOY
      @TOONYBOY 11 місяців тому +4

      ".5 past lightspeed" sounds like he's saying "1.5x the speed of light", which would not allow you to travel between planets or stars in any survivable amount of time. If you wanted to get to a system that's 1 Lightyear away, travelling at 1.5x lightspeed would chop your journey from 1 year down to 9 months

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 11 місяців тому +1

      @@TOONYBOY From the original Expanded Universe:
      The superluminal speed of a hyperdrive was rated on a decreasing scale; the faster the hyperdrive, the lower the rating. These ratings were generally referred to as "Classes" and provided a quick, although often inconsistent or inaccurate, idea of a ship's hyperdrive speed. It was based on an asymptotic scale with Class 0.0 being infinite speed. In 30 BBY.
      By the end of the Clone Wars most military starships were using Class 3 or Class 2. During the Galactic Civil War, military capital ships and starfighters were generally equipped with Class 1 or Class 2, industrial freighters and haulers with Class 3 or Class 4, and civilian starships with Class 5 or above. Many vessels mounted backup hyperdrives of much higher-that is, slower-class than their primary hyperdrive.
      Some starships, such as the Millennium Falcon, underwent after-market modifications to achieve ratings of Class 0.5, and Dash Rendar's Outrider also had a hyperdrive Class 0.75, which was also achieved by modifications, although tampering with the generally stable technology of a hyperdrive was considered a dangerous activity.
      Boba Fett's Slave I had a class 0.7 hyperdrive. Hyperdrives built by those outside the sphere of the Galactic Republic, Galactic Empire and New Republic, such as the Hapan Froond-class hyperdrive, were not classed in the standard system, as controlled comparisons were difficult to attain.

    • @TOONYBOY
      @TOONYBOY 11 місяців тому +2

      @@LordVader1094 That's all interesting, but what does ".5 past lightspeed" mean in that context?

    • @yagamifire7861
      @yagamifire7861 11 місяців тому

      It means EXTREMELY fast because its rated as a .5 engine when traveling past light speed (ie in hyperspace).
      If he had said "it'll make one past light speed" that would be slower (but still VERY fast in comparison to lightspeed as all hyperspace travel is far far faster)

    • @thomasvarley380
      @thomasvarley380 8 місяців тому

      Jesus Christ ! 😂😂

  • @student6140
    @student6140 Рік тому +27

    I never wanted to be a Jedi. From the time my small child self went to the cinema to see a new hope I always wanted to be Han Solo 😁

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Рік тому +4

      I wanted to a character wandering around Tatooine or a member of Jabba’s court.

    • @BruhMoment-fr4zr
      @BruhMoment-fr4zr Рік тому +5

      I wanted to be a Scout trooper, speeder bikes and sniper rifles, hell yeah lmao

    • @alexpowers5117
      @alexpowers5117 Рік тому +4

      I just own a shady bar with questionable guests

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 11 місяців тому +2

      @@alexpowers5117 💯💯💯

    • @kaykutcher2103
      @kaykutcher2103 11 місяців тому +4

      Wanted to be C3PO of all things. If you know everything there's no need for school.

  • @PaulieMcCoy
    @PaulieMcCoy Рік тому +10

    Nice easter egg at 3:18.
    I played SWG for a short-time when it came out. Becoming a Jedi was kept secret and you had to master four randomized professions, they left little hints in the game to what those professions might have been for your particular character (it was based on RNG if I remember correctly). I left before NGE. It was a very good game at that point. I remember joining a faction (Empire) and joining a faction had different pros and cons. I remember I was able to get an item or something that allowed me to call a stormtrooper. I also spent points and time in able to build a player house. Got into PVP combat with a Rebel guy in the middle of nowhere. Low on health I planted a house down and so did he. I saw the guy in a non-PVP town and he said "Howdy, neighbor!" I hear the expansions and undoing the secrets of Jedi really screwed the game. The player-based economy along with towns, cities were unique.
    Last time I played, Empire faction perk was able to summon AT-ST, got in a faction based PVP war in a city and people bitched about how the AT-ST was too powerful and it got the nerf bat. Player based economy (items, resources to some extent, towns) and the initial versions of the game really lent things to a roleplaying style of play. No classes were useless, going into cantina to get healed and some buffs by other players was neat. I remember offering to give info of a guild's hidden location to a rival guild for in-game currency. Good stuff. Shame it got ruined.

    • @warpspeedscp
      @warpspeedscp 11 місяців тому

      Sounds a lot like the eve model but swg didnt check themselves before they wrecked themselves.

  • @Highweaver2
    @Highweaver2 Рік тому +17

    Watching these shows is just a painstaking reminder of what we're losing out on if the Andor crew was put at the helm of all major projects.

    • @Highweaver2
      @Highweaver2 Рік тому +7

      At this point saying that Andor is the exception is sounding like a broken record but christ, the quality of that show is lightyears ahead of what we're getting with the rest of the shows. Even rewatching the Mandalorian is painful, its just so much filler and / or nothing.

    • @glarcier4398
      @glarcier4398 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Highweaver2 andor is just on another level, I really hope the guys who made it get more power at disney

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 11 місяців тому

      @@Highweaver2 I Liked the first 2 seasons of Mandalorian tho but yeah

  • @cha02psc
    @cha02psc 11 місяців тому +11

    Luke Skywalker is so inactive in these shows we might as well rename him Mannequin Skywalker

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 11 місяців тому +6

      “Maybe he’s Jake Skywalker.”
      - Mark Hamill

  • @bjam72727
    @bjam72727 11 місяців тому +3

    The Star Wars Galaxies reference was spot on. I spent many, many, hours playing that game and back then (2003) no one really knew how you could become Jedi, some speculated you needed to master certain classes and complete specific missions, but you were not sure. So you just worked on mastering the classes you enjoyed playing and soon forgot about the Jedi because the game was just so much fun. There was such variety in the player base. I was a Carbineer, and on the side a Shipwright who built and sold starship chassis from my own store on Corellia. I was also an occasional Rebel Pilot and Soldier. Yeah, don’t forget to take leave from the military when going solo, if not, you could be attacked anywhere. Never failed when visiting the Mos Eisley cantina on a Friday night and the place would be packed, a PVP would breakout because someone forgot to take leave.
    Got sidetracked, but the point is the game thrived without the Jedi. You had every play style you could imagine, and not just action/combat. Entertainers, Artisians, Merchants, you could be a politician…lol. It had its own player based economy. You could play for a year before getting the visit from the old man to begin your force sensitive training, and it was such a reward. You knew on the rare occasion you came across a Jedi, that player had put in alot of effort and time to achieve, it was quite the accomplishment. Then they decided, let’s just make you a Jedi from the start. Shortly after the Merchants, Entertainers, Politicians, Engineers slowly begin to disappear. I was still building starship chassis and making tons of credits because there were so few shipwrights left.
    In its heyday, you would visit Mos Eisley on a Friday night, and there were so many players, it was all your 56k modem could handle to render a screen. I upgraded to DSL just for the game. A couple of years after the “Everybody Can Be Jedi”, it was a ghost town. The memories.
    R.I.P Tre-Bin Lightstar, the best Carbineer, Ranger, Shipwright, Pilot and Rebel Scum Soldier on Ahazi.
    Great video.

  • @damndatscrazyyy940
    @damndatscrazyyy940 Рік тому +17

    That a popular mmo had to die like that is really sad but the comparison is really on point

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 Рік тому +125

    I feel so bad for Hayden Christensen, Ray Stevenson, and the 2 child actors Arianna Greenblatt(Young Ashoka and Evan Whitten(Jacen Syndulla). They were the real victims of this garbage show. Anyone agree?

    • @Cmdr_Sinclair_B5
      @Cmdr_Sinclair_B5 Рік тому +21

      Definitely. They all deserved better.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Рік тому +3

      @@Cmdr_Sinclair_B5IKR!

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Рік тому +13

      I'm ready to bet Filoni did stuff to Arianna while she was in Asoka costume. He checks all the boxes to be that kind of guy

    • @vee-bee-a
      @vee-bee-a Рік тому +13

      Years later, those child actors will consider it a stain in their career... Unless they retire early, that is.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Рік тому +8

      @@vee-bee-a 💯💯. They’ll probably hate it but probably also be happy they were in Star Wars

  • @kenrides
    @kenrides Рік тому +39

    Thanks for discussing the turbo lasers. They drive me crazy, and I know they were in the prequels, but this is another level with them in space. The only thing you didn't mention is the fact they would need to have an oxygen source, or oxygenated fuel to cause an explosion giving off fire and smoke in a vacuum.

    • @jonathanseibert761
      @jonathanseibert761 Рік тому +4

      Tibanna is what they fire if I remember correctly
      I think this is elaborated on in Thrawn Treason and I think alliances
      Sorry if you already knew this

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx Рік тому +9

      I tend to give a pass for explosions upon impacting a target even in instances where it wouldn't happen because it's more visually interesting and adds visual weight to what would normally just be holes/tears appearing on a surface. Even a large, lingering explosion when a vessel detonates in space is somewhat excusable for the same reason.
      But lasers detonating around a target as some kind of flak-style weapon? No amount of leeway makes that make sense.

    • @johnnycrown5097
      @johnnycrown5097 Рік тому +1

      It's chips...
      Someone actually made that excuse... I don't think he knew what chips are meant for... He thought they programmed in smoke into it... Jesus christ, I need to find that comment and copy and paste it... You might think I'm lying or I was trolled and I can't be that stupid to remember...

    • @johnnycrown5097
      @johnnycrown5097 Рік тому

      ​@@ForeverLaxxyou can excuse long lasting explosions because a huge amount of oxygen is escaping from the ships and we don't know what the shields are made of, it's when they remain on fire without shields that it strains my believability... I'm looking at you star cruiser redemption... My goodness, star cruiser redemption must have been ruin johnson's bed room wallpaper... Everything it did in that episode was just kicked up to eleven in TLJ...

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx Рік тому +6

      @@johnnycrown5097 The oxygen would burn up almost instantly with no atmosphere unless there was a pipe or something feeding more into it (and that would likely just burst anyway). It doesn't make logical sense for an explosion that lasts, but I ignore it because otherwise the scene would be relatively dull.
      Flak lasers are just dumb, though.

  • @TheAdarkerglow
    @TheAdarkerglow Рік тому +8

    Slight correction: In Star Wars Galaxy, it was originally impossible to be a Jedi. It simply wasn't a class one could get. It was eventually added, though it was never clarified how to become a Jedi and the community had to work together to discover it, and it was knowledge among the devoted players, many of whom did not share it for the benefit of being one of the 'only' Jedi.
    I recommend 'Death of a Game: Star Wars Galaxy' for a bit more depth about it.

  • @checjb1
    @checjb1 Рік тому +9

    That whole sequence about powered/unpowered objects and Elsbeth's ring had me crying with laughter. Got me some very strange looks on my dog walk, I'll tell you. 😂

  • @LovelessDogg1
    @LovelessDogg1 11 місяців тому +6

    I think this is the first time I've ever heard someone explain Chancellor Valorum's character in a meaningful way. I usually just see people not get or understand him and then just wish Terrance Stamp was utilized in Episode 1 more. Which I agree with that last part because Stamp is awesome.

  • @Bread_Simulacrumbs
    @Bread_Simulacrumbs Рік тому +22

    I am absurdly pleased by the Assoka Series thumbnails

  • @regularpigeon2702
    @regularpigeon2702 Рік тому +4

    Omg that count Dooku impression was gold

  • @AshCosgrove
    @AshCosgrove Рік тому +8

    So glad you brought up both Star Wars: Galaxies and the crappy NGE they released. All these years later and I'm still pissed off about it. I was one of those people that was spending many hours trying to become a Padawan, and with a single patch they made it so now anyone could be one. Ugh, I stopped playing the game THAT. DAY. Also would like to mention that if you were found to be a Jedi and you were killed by a bounty hunter. THAT WAS IT. You're dead. Start over, try again. That game was amazing.

    • @PaulieMcCoy
      @PaulieMcCoy Рік тому +1

      The entire game was a bit complicated and people were figuring out the economy. I was gearing towards being a bounty hunter aligned with the Empire to kill Jedi but I hadda give it up due to IRL stuff. Seems like I dodged a bullet. I think my uncle was hanging on to it and I vaguely remember him cussing about "that damned patch, damned SOE!"

  • @moocake24
    @moocake24 Рік тому +14

    My favorite part of the episode was when Ahsoka force-pulled Mace Windu’s lightsaber toward her. 10/10 would recommend to a friend or coworker.

  • @jkellyid
    @jkellyid 11 місяців тому +3

    Star wars is a hilarious franchise to contemplate. It started from a very health place but after a certain point started undermining itself long before Disney came along, bought it, and lit it on fire.
    We are loving through an age of subversion. Where you can adapt the green knight epic poem into the literal antithesis of the original work and people will claim it's the best adaptation of authoritarian lore to date.
    What is amazing about Disney Star wars is how nearly every single element is antithetical to the source material.
    Sure, they pour money on this thing, but in the end it is still impressively inept at being what it is.

  • @scottaaker5534
    @scottaaker5534 11 місяців тому +1

    Simoly put, Platoon, thank you. Thank you for putting into words these things that bothered me but was unable to breakdown and vocalize. The frustration of not being able to properly put into words that which you find horrible is frankly stifling, like being unable to take a deep breath. When you dissect these shows and movies you bring up these points and mistakes that make me say "YES! THATS IT! THATS WHATS BOTHER ME!". And there is a sense of relief when that happens. So thank you sir, for helping me to breathe deeply again. Take care

  • @WatanukiProductions
    @WatanukiProductions Рік тому +4

    Star Wars: Galaxies was so good. By not having a combat class and a profession but just different jobs you could learn and making every player depend on everyone else so that every role was sought after by guilds whether a player was good at combat or not. I was on the servers when the first player became a jedi and for a long while even after holocrons started dropping they were so rare and encouraged to be so secretive.(Because in addition to the bounty system if they drew their lightsaber they also had permadeath when no one else did.) seeing one draw their saber as part of a rebel wedding ceremony was genuinely quite incredible.
    I haven't played any game since that capture the sense of community that Galaxies did. It's a fucking crime what they did to that game. (It's also a crime that none of the server emulation projects have managed to get the game in the post Jump to Lightspeed pre-NGE pre-CU state I most want to play in.

  • @rapscallionsith8152
    @rapscallionsith8152 Рік тому +19

    Ah man, it's a bit too late for me to catch the premiere, but I will happily listen to it tomorrow on my way to work. I may crash due to laughing though... oh well, I always said that I want to die happy.

    • @ggt47
      @ggt47 Рік тому

      Listen to it now, I'm late to work but what can you do.

  • @TheHulkbuster13
    @TheHulkbuster13 11 місяців тому +6

    Given how the next step of Sabine’s training that we saw on screen was the same training Luke went through in Ep 4 which was literally his 1st steps of Jedi training, I can’t help think that Rey received more training from Luke than any off screen training Sabine had from Ashoka before the series.

  • @patrickeg916
    @patrickeg916 Рік тому +6

    In the Lego Star Wars games, if you create a custom character and give them a lightsaber for a weapon, they are also a jedi (or sith, with red).
    *This* is probably the reasoning for modern characters gaining the force. Just give them a lightsaber and you automatically gain the skillset as well.

  • @mikeylicksit
    @mikeylicksit Рік тому +6

    "i can't see, how am i supposed to fight?" word for word. just, just terrible. great vid t.l.p. 🔥

  • @blacksabre5343
    @blacksabre5343 11 місяців тому +3

    Your SWG analogy was spot on. I remember those days. I was satisfied being an Imperial simp and made my house near the Emperor's retreat on Naboo lol. Yeah, NGE ruined everything. When I quit the game, i found one of the newly unlocked Jedi and asked them to kill me lol.

  • @MichaelAarons1701
    @MichaelAarons1701 Рік тому +10

    @TheLittlePlatoon, _Star Wars_ lasers have almost always acted either like flak cannons or exploded even back in the OT. Just watch the Battle of Endor and you’ll see little fireballs flashing here and there that are clearly not ships being shot down thus can only be the energy bolt popping. You even show footage from _Phantom Menace_ with the bolts that fly past the Naboo craft exploding in raw air/space. Remember, one of the major goals of the franchise was to pay tribute to the old serials George loved to watch as well as old war flicks hence the unnecessary banking of starfighters because it evokes not functionality, but the familiar imagery of…war.
    As for the ability to scan and then can’t scan but, oh wait, they can was probably because the long range was being jammed but not the short range scanners. Best theory I can come up with.

  • @FriendlyDarkwraith
    @FriendlyDarkwraith Рік тому +5

    The blaster/laser discrepancy isn't really an issue of how the tech works in-universe, but more in the naming conventions used to describe them. Laser cannons and turbolasers are basically just larger and powerful versions of traditional blasters, which use some kind of superheated gas to fire projectiles that resemble lasers but aren't actually lasers. That being said, to my knowledge, they don't normally mimic traditional flak cannon bursts. Maybe the Geonosian fighters behave differently, since they were designed by weird bug men, but that's not traditionally how blasters, laser cannons, and turbolasers are depicted.

  • @sunbehm
    @sunbehm Рік тому +4

    Is it weird that every-time I see Jar Jar Binks I think "what would he taste like roasted"

  • @popblender
    @popblender Рік тому +5

    I am a HUGE fan of Assoka using the force to move a giant, purple, sex toy!!! That is one of the most reasonable things that could've happened during this show compared to 99% of everything else!!!!

  • @davcrav
    @davcrav Рік тому +44

    There's a big problem with the passing of time in different places that, as it happens, basically no sci-fi shows deal with. There's no such thing. General relativity is quite clear about this. A day can pass on the ship, but there's no "the same day" anywhere else. It's kind of a hard thing to get your head around to begin with, because humans are used to all being on Earth, where your day and my day are the same. This is not true at large distances and especially high speeds.

    • @rylanasher4756
      @rylanasher4756 Рік тому +7

      I fear your comment will go underappreciated by the majority. You're spot on, though.

    • @ericvulgate7091
      @ericvulgate7091 Рік тому

      You're correct of course but this is all fantasy.
      None of it could work in our actual universe with our actual physics.

    • @RadeFoxxy
      @RadeFoxxy Рік тому +1

      It'd be even worse if relativistic lights peed were used. It'd be centuries or more to outside events.
      Hyperspace at least tries to avoid the relativity aspect

    • @prestigemultimediagroup6436
      @prestigemultimediagroup6436 Рік тому

      That's the worst explanation of relativity I've ever heard and I thought high school physics...
      Time does not stop and start because your traversing space fuckwith... your confused and thinking of time dilation and redshift..
      Moving from one place to another doesnt alter the passage of time...
      Alien worlds may have different timekeeping systems but time itself except in very rare instances like ftl travel or parking near a black hole is like the speed of light and pretty well constant dipshit

    • @davcrav
      @davcrav Рік тому

      @@RadeFoxxy Unfortunately any FTL communication or travel inevitibly implies time travel, something else that isn't taken into account in any sci-fi with FTL. I'm allowing that one though because FTL is necessary for almost any of these space programmes, and time travel would just screw everything up. Want warning about that upcoming attack? Just FTL yourself a message into the past. Gah.

  • @carlosdelfino3589
    @carlosdelfino3589 11 місяців тому +1

    i love the little interludes with the funny animations you put in to lighten this up^^ you are the only smiles to be had with SW today^^

  • @GarthKnight1884
    @GarthKnight1884 11 місяців тому +5

    Kudos to Bag Face for his excellent choices;) Excellent work as always Lord

  • @captaindropkik
    @captaindropkik Рік тому +2

    "I agree. Fuck off." is gonna be my new favourite line.
    Short, effective, versatile. Perfect.

  • @jamesbevan4479
    @jamesbevan4479 Рік тому +3

    "Together, we can destroy the b*tch!"
    F me lol that was beautiful 😂❤

  • @LegendaryDorkKnight
    @LegendaryDorkKnight 11 місяців тому +4

    56:50
    Okay wait. Pause! RIGHT THERE! Ahsoka's lightsaber cut that wing and the metal hot hot enough to glow in just that instant. If they're hot enough to do that, Sabine and Reva should have 100% died from being stabbed for multiple seconds. It would have boiled them inside at the VERY LEAST.

  • @agroed
    @agroed Рік тому +9

    Mon Mothma is suddenly an idiot in this show because Dave didn't watch Andor. He thought it was too boring.

  • @plotholedetective4166
    @plotholedetective4166 Рік тому +12

    If anyone can be a Jedi why does the force screw with storm troopers so hard? I mean these are people with military training so if anyone can use the force via training shouldn't the storm troopers be super good warriors able to bend laser trajectories with their mind and stuff?

    • @billjacobs521
      @billjacobs521 Рік тому +1

      Maybe they keep trying, and it's why they always miss.

  • @LegendaryDorkKnight
    @LegendaryDorkKnight 11 місяців тому +3

    I've always hated the "anyone can be special" approach that Disney Star Wars has started pushing and I've always thought that normal people with no powers fighting against impossible odds and succeeding is a gorillion times more interesting and compelling than winning because you're special somehow. It's okay to be normal. Ordinary people can still do extraordinary things in real life and in storytelling. Isaac Clarke, Lady from DMC, Sigma Klim, Zeke in Infamous. And in movies Sarah Connor, Ellen Ripley, Hawkeye, The Punisher. Just normal people fighting sometimes against things they don't understand.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 11 місяців тому +2

      💯💯💯💯💯

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 11 місяців тому +1

      Ordinary people can do extraordinary things in real life and in storytelling
      💯💯❤️❤️💯👍

  • @Davepars7
    @Davepars7 Рік тому +3

    Everytime I see that thumbnail I chuckle like a school kid.
    Bravo.

  • @Balevolt
    @Balevolt Рік тому +8

    The fact that Twi'lek hybrids don't look like that in the Clone Wars is odd seeing as the same fake cowboy had his fist up the ass of both.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Рік тому +1

      Clone Wars show was average but decent at best.

    • @TheBloopers30
      @TheBloopers30 11 місяців тому

      @@chasehedges6775 Looking back at it, I agree. Would still argue that the show has a few gems that I would consider above decent.

  • @billjacobs521
    @billjacobs521 Рік тому +5

    The funny thing is, I could perhaps forgive the idea that anyone can use the Force, if done properly. Ahsoka basically says "It's really, really hard to learn to use the Force for those with the gift for it, and so it's going to be really, really, REALLY damn hard for you." So if Sabine became obsessed with training, spending every free moment on it, for like 2 whole seasons, and eventually manages to start using it, I could swallow it to some degree. But nah, Asohka was wrong; not only do you not need the gift, but you don't even have to work very hard at it. The obvious conclusion at this point is that using the Force is pretty easy...if you have a vagina. Pretty sure Rose is going to be a Jedi if they make another movie.

  • @joseantoniomillabrito2764
    @joseantoniomillabrito2764 Рік тому +6

    So solid arguments Lil' Platoon....when everyone is special, no one is....and the game dies.

  • @fluffernaut9905
    @fluffernaut9905 11 місяців тому +3

    3:19 don't think I didn't catch that.

  • @Balevolt
    @Balevolt Рік тому +8

    Ooh another thing if Jason was the secondary protagonist. The desire to live up to a father who died a hero.

    • @TheLittlePlatoon
      @TheLittlePlatoon  Рік тому +2

      Yep!

    • @thefilthyrhombus3856
      @thefilthyrhombus3856 Рік тому +4

      Considering it's "Jacen Syndulla" instead of "Jacen Jarrus" does he even know who his father was? Really went full Force is Female on that one.

  • @pritikinaa
    @pritikinaa 11 місяців тому +2

    The "That's not how biology works!" bit is top notch! Subscribed.

    • @TheLittlePlatoon
      @TheLittlePlatoon  11 місяців тому +1

      I had to eat five ash trays but if Harrison can do it, so can I.

  • @tjroelsma
    @tjroelsma Рік тому +15

    The "lasers can't be used as flak cannons" problem has been solved in sci-fi series like Perry Rhodan decades ago. Besides lasers, the writers introduced projection cannons. These cannons project (it has never been explained how that works precisely) explosives over great distance and work as both flak cannons and main guns, depending on the size of the cannons.

    • @strategicperson95
      @strategicperson95 Рік тому +4

      Even still, Star Wars doesn't seem to understand how FlaK works. That being it doesn't need to hit you, it just have to go off near you.
      It's why flak jackets existed for bomber crews, to reduce crew death by the shrapnel that peirce through the thin skin of the bomber.
      In a space environment, FlaK actually be useless in achieving that same destruction against most smaller ships bigger than a fighter due to the design needing to be space worthy in the first place, aside from damaging exposed important systems like the engine.

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma Рік тому +4

      @@strategicperson95 Flak can be very useful in a space environment, as it punches holes in the hulls and therefore causes the ships to decompress. Punch enough small holes or one really big hole in the hull and you get explosive decompression that causes possible structural failure to the degree that the integrity of the hull can no longer be sustained and the ship starts breaking apart.

    • @Toliman.
      @Toliman. Рік тому +3

      It could be a physical interaction ... but, it wouldn't be lasers.
      Flak against an invisible "energy" dome/sphere is ... contrived. Anything longer than a few seconds, the audience doesn't understand the risk or danger, nor do they think the enemy is a threat, or the situation has risks. They can't even trip over and fall on the ground.
      There is an in-universe explanation that the Blasters are equivalent of a phased plasma gas or PPG rounds, i.e. superheated gas that is magnetically energised and propels itself out of the barrel to "Melt" the other person's flesh/armour. But, you'd have to also use Turbo-Blaster or Turbo-Cannon for the austerity / Anachronism to hold. The problem sort of comes along because the Lightsaber doesn't make sense, and weapons don't have recoil in star wars, until the Clone Wars/Prequels came along. And, the lasers tend to "explode" into fireworks or burn marks, while a standard laser is a beam that switches on and off. it attaches to the destination once projected. it can also disperse or scatter.
      Very little of Star Wars carries an immediate sense of danger if you don't reduce it down, or make it seem 'realistic' i.e. by making the weapons look like conventional weapons, sic. But that has the problem that you also can't make the danger too alien or too stupid. The audience isn't going to understand the colors or the size/shape/speed unless it's given context.
      Blasters are conventionally slow compared to a bullet. They're almost the speed of an arrow bolt. Good for visual language, bad for threat / sense of danger. Visually, Blasters are quite slow, about 20x slower than a bullet, but it's more likely designed to cause injury to metal and energy-ablative materials via heat/plasma. This also make it nearly recoil-less.
      But, it's all to serve the continuity of having White Armor that looks like plastic. And, to have 'bullets' you can see on screen against a black background or white background. Bigger Blasters = Bigger Explosions = Bigger Danger.
      If you remove the explosion, blasters don't have that same danger or reaction. That anachronism is important. It's why you don't see many horses in space, or toothbrushes, conversely, because it has to maintain the element of fantasy, but also the sense of reality. Hence why Jedi always wear desert robes, because Obi-Wan was wearing robes. If he was wearing flip-flops/thongs with socks, all Jedi would be.
      That anachronism or 'understanding' based on convention, is a double-edged sword.
      The world-building and VFX problem of Sci-Fi is that you're visually showing danger, instead of using literature in which the audience can infer subtext or knowledge, or have it 'imparted' to the audience who might not have the sense of threat / risk of how much damage and risk there is. It's also why we don't often compare bullets by their MJ energy output or kinetic energy level unless the audience has a metric/comparison from one kind of danger to another.
      Damage has to mean something. The Visuals also have to be anachronistic to "Danger".
      VFX teams are important for this level of Threat/Danger/Damage, especially because audiovisual language teaches the audience to have some suspension of disbelief, but also to care about the situation. They need an analogue or an anachronism to turn lasers into bullets.
      Blasters on the small scale have a 'travel' speed, which gives the distinctive visual streak.
      The problem with doing the same thing in space, is that space tends to be a lot bigger than a corridor. The impact / projection has to be Bigger.
      If you nerf the Bad Guy so your hero can walk into laser fire, if you get stabbed and it doesn't matter, you lower the stakes and the audience loses cohesion. You lose verisimilitude.
      Gravity in space, can also risk this suspension of disbelief, because gravity in space is hard to show. If someone jumps in space, they won't "land". they'll clamp. And you'd need to "hear" the clamping, despite the silence, so people have an association.
      You remove the danger, and you remove the conflict. It seems awesome for the fantasy, but if your hero is able to survive lethal attacks, there's no danger, and no action. it's just an effect that resembles danger, threat, suspense.
      The dumbest part is that you can't nerf ship-mounted blasters to make them miss or hit, because the hits have to actually do something or they lose purpose. If you're hit by 50 arrows, but you make a single shot and kill with the same weapon, you end up coloring the reality of combat into fantasy combat i.e. Only Headshots Count, or Only The Hero Wins.
      The conceptual problem is lasers don't have a lot of mass, so you don't have recoil or inertia, they won't be affected by gravity or warping of spacetime, and they wouldn't go 'off-course' either.
      When a laser hits, it has to impact. If it hits an invisible shield ... and the invisible shield 'smokes' or shows debris, then there's a visual anachronism.
      Once you have mass, there's a visual distortion, there's inertia, friction and impact/recoil of firing the bullets. You are no longer going pew-pew-pew, it's boom-hiss-boom-hiss-boom-hiss as there needs to be a loading and unloading time between shots. It could be a blaster, i.e. plasma bolts of some hyper-excited gas/plasma reaction... but that would have other consequences ie Plasma bolts would have mass, but also require cooling down of a mass driver or coil armature to hold the superheated plasma away from a barrel.

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma Рік тому +1

      @@Toliman. You point out some interesting side-effects/consequences and I agree those would make the Star Wars Universe certainly much more complicated.
      I think it's safe to say that George Lucas went for simplicity out of necessity, mainly because he didn't have the technical abilities that directors have now at his disposal and the financial aspect would probably have played a role as well. There are fans who argue that the whole "cowboys in space" vibe that characters like Han Solo and settlements on different worlds give off are also based on keeping things simple and as cheap as possible.
      Like I said, sci-fi writers have "solved" the Flak problem on paper, but then they don't have to worry about immense cooling system for cannons that fire plasma bolts, so the "keep it simple" mantra is far less relevant in writing. And besides that: the beauty of sci-fi is that a writer can say that it's safe to assume that certain technologies will be invented in the future, so creating a warp- of FTL (Faster Than Light) or maybe even a super-cooling system for plasma cannons doesn't need to come with a technical explanation on it's working. One of the most obvious examples of this are the "compensators" that many sci-fi writers use to overcome technical problems: encounter a problem today's technology can't solve? Introduce a compensator that has solved the problem in the future.

  • @RoddThunderheart
    @RoddThunderheart Рік тому +3

    I notice a zipper on Hera's pants. George Lucas was very careful to not have any visible fasteners on his movies. Or glasses.

    • @KRobinson-ko1ne
      @KRobinson-ko1ne 5 місяців тому

      Unless you count Wilford Brimley in Battle for Endor

  • @tailfin6595
    @tailfin6595 11 місяців тому +5

    56:53 Worth mentioning once again that this very weapon impaled a human being two episodes ago and she was completely fine after a day. What sort of devilish RNG is controlling the damage output of light sabers in Filoni Wars?
    Also, Sa🅱️enis

  • @ChipandTucker
    @ChipandTucker 11 місяців тому +2

    You’ve been such an terrific addition to this strange pop
    Culture war, Platoon.
    Excellent work

  • @poissonsumac7922
    @poissonsumac7922 Рік тому +11

    Aw yeah, we get to watch Asohka and Huge Wang hide inside Morgan's ring.

  • @Crysoft2
    @Crysoft2 11 місяців тому +2

    Two things while the critique is obviously right and valid:
    1. Flak cannons powered by laser could work I think in the atmosphere if the "laser" is actually plasma tuned to superheat a space of air at a calculated distance. This would never work in space, and is a strech but oh well.
    2. there is a situation where they turned off droids to avoid scanners in the beginning of clone wars, I think episode 3 or 4 or something.

    • @Abysalss
      @Abysalss 9 місяців тому +1

      Well that’s what all “lasers” in Star Wars are. This is long existing lore and is common knowledge amongst more interested fans

  • @Akr0nic
    @Akr0nic Рік тому +6

    I will say, at around 1:00:45, when you mention them turning off Huge Wang, there was actually a precedent set in Empire Strikes Back when Han and Leia power down the Falcon and then turn off C-3PO to avoid the Star Destroyers dectection (this is when Han attached to the back of a Star Destroyer so they could "float away with the garbage")

    • @billjacobs521
      @billjacobs521 Рік тому +3

      I think they turned off C-3PO because he was being annoying. But you're right. Although that was because they were trying to blend in to space trash, not a forest.

    • @Akr0nic
      @Akr0nic Рік тому +1

      You are absolutely correct, I wrote the comment on my lunch break and have since gone back to check. Thank you! And I do agree that it makes little sense in this context even had I been correct, being a forest rather than some space trash@@billjacobs521

  • @siddharthnath7917
    @siddharthnath7917 11 місяців тому +1

    The whole comparison of hyperspace transit scenes makes complete sense and I agree, but a big part of it is that A New Hope had to establish everything for the first time, while Ahsoka is in a richly established universe already. That could be one of the reason why A New Hope seems so much more impressive. But you're right, they shouldn't have wasted so much time on it if it wasn't accomplishing too much. It definitely was a great opportunity to get a bit of a glimpse into their tumultuous relationship and maybe a hint as to how that happened. It'd set up something interesting and a pay off at the end would make it more satisfying and useful, while also developing both characters.

  • @Cancoillotteman
    @Cancoillotteman Рік тому +3

    Just gotta say, i love your Sir C. Lee impression !

  • @Troopertroll
    @Troopertroll 11 місяців тому +1

    SWG was such an adventure as a RPer. I never got to max level and just became a trophy hunter and interior decorator for . And non-combat roles like that were a completely valid way to play.

  • @mxvega1097
    @mxvega1097 Рік тому +6

    Jacen Syndulla would have been a great character for the adventure, BUT Disney can't have that, because he might then be alive during the ST, and take the glory away from Kathy's Stunning and Brave and Forever characters.
    Also: too much family, might lead to General Hera doing something ghastly and maternal like making a hopeless choice between her son, her friends, or her mission. Eewww. Icky.

  • @pricklypear1643
    @pricklypear1643 Рік тому +2

    God i love this mans commentary. It lets my small brain see what its like to be big

  • @benjamintherogue2421
    @benjamintherogue2421 Рік тому +3

    3:19 You didn't sneak that past me!

  • @indianajo883
    @indianajo883 Рік тому +2

    I spent 80+ hours getting force sensitive in Galaxies. You had to go to Dathomir and it was super HARD. And if you took out your saber, everyone tried to kill you for a bounty. It was so fun. Then they overhauled it and everyone could start as a Jedi and no one was anything else. It was just full of Jedi and no more dancers builders or anyting else.

  • @sugartoothYT
    @sugartoothYT Рік тому +9

    I always saw Force sensitivity with the same principle as that line from Ratatouille (and I prefer it be that way).
    "Not everyone can become a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere."
    There are bloodlines and even species more adept at the Force on average, but nevertheless every now and then great aptitude is seemingly randomly spawned on some distant rock, in the middle of mediocrity.

    • @reeve1991
      @reeve1991 Рік тому +7

      Pretty much exactly how I've always understood it and maintain is the only sensible way to understand it. While Force Sensitivity is explicitly genetic and heritable, a fact ranging from "the Force is strong in my family" to Miralukas as a species all having some inherent very minor amount of Force sensitivity to see without eyes, it also seems prone to popping up potentially anywhere. This seems critical to how the Jedi Order functioned and makes the "groundbreaking moral" of The Last Jedi so asinine... Jedi bloodlines/dynasties like the Skywalker Family are a wild exception, not the norm, because the very nature of the Jedi Order doesn't enable dynasties... they recruit kids as young as humanly possible, and then raise them into a life of celibacy as part of their beliefs. Functionally almost any Jedi ever must have just been randomly born into a normal family, because the only Force Sensitives that would be having kids are those that for whatever reason the Jedi didn't find or rejected, or Force Sensitives that left the Jedi or were banished from it, and even both of those together can't be a very significant number.

  • @mellowgeekstudio
    @mellowgeekstudio 11 місяців тому +2

    Turbo laser is a misnomer in Star Wars the same way lightspeed is. While jump into lightspeed actually means "jump into hyperspace", which provides speeds much higher than the speed of light, turbo laser actually refers to "blasts of plasma", the same type that are used in the handheld blasters.

  • @spideymon
    @spideymon Рік тому +3

    7:17 god i love this channel. more videos please

  • @MustertheBrohirrim
    @MustertheBrohirrim Рік тому +2

    It's nice to see heras arms crossed BEHIND her back. Incredible arc.

  • @destro3804
    @destro3804 Рік тому +3

    lucas confirmed that normal ship can cross the star wars galaxy in less than a day

  • @marcusbrothers5221
    @marcusbrothers5221 7 місяців тому +2

    The robot carcass little green guy is riding in was once a sentient, self aware being. Kinda morbid. Definitely not cute.

  • @grayfox6518
    @grayfox6518 Рік тому +6

    If you ever have time, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Phantom Menace. For your objective critique, both the good and the bad, that is rare amongst UA-camrs.

    • @TheLittlePlatoon
      @TheLittlePlatoon  Рік тому +6

      It’s the 25th anniversary next year, I believe. So maybe…

  • @CplYakob
    @CplYakob Рік тому +5

    Thrawn is not your typical Imperial officer, he's a major threat that demands the New Republic's full attention because...he killed Hera's friends? Forget evidence, could she muster anything more strategically relevant, or even just emotionally powerful?

    • @billjacobs521
      @billjacobs521 Рік тому +1

      This is Disney; "He killed my fwiends!" is obviously the second-greatest motivator for revenge, after "He told me, a woman, I couldn't do something!"