This Engine has been on Fire! (Overkill Engine Build for My Corvette)
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2022
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When I set out to revive a terrible engine that had been on fire, I had no idea what I was getting into. That project died a hard death with Chevy High Performance was shut down a couple years ago. But I never forgot about it, and when it came time to dream up an engine for my 1980 Corvette project, it seemed like the perfect opportunity to pull it out of mothballs and way overbuild it so it will probably rip the Corvette in half. Because after all, overkill is underrated!
Big thanks to Automotive Specialists for machining and dyno'ing the engine: automotivespecialists.com
Check out the Lock-In-Tool here: www.lockintool.com
And a big shout-out to the manufacturers who helped support this build!
ARP Bolts: arp-bolts.com
Brodix: brodix.com
Comp Cams: www.compcams.com
FiTech EFI: fitechefi.com
Holley: www.holley.com
ICT Billet: www.ictbillet.com
K1 Technologies: k1technologies.com
Wiseco: wiseco.com
Some of the components used in this build: (Note, The Horsepower Monster may receive compensation if you purchase from these links, so thanks for your support!)
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great video ....i agree the motor had a rough life in that escallade....keep up the great content...i like the way u think go big..lol
Man, I gotta agree with you... with 416 cubes, that much cam and cylinder head, I was expecting 640 to 650hp.
It seems to be the way with these 'fully built' LS motors
Low compression killing power
kinda low compression for NA ... BUT he can run 87 octane and it's still gonna be a pretty fun reliable engine and if he ever wanted to add a procharger or a turbo it is basically ready for that
@@bnard4659 Compression and cam LSA.
11:1 and a 110 LSA or tighter cam would probably 'fix' it.
Did you actually measure the head volume and piston deck height,piston volume... if not, you have no idea of the compression ... just a wild guess, which is extremely poor engine building by a so called professional.
#2.... what was the cranking pressure...again if that wasn't checked, very poor engine building skills. After all that, I would never ever run 10:1 comp with a 247 deg cam... torque will suffer drastically.... needs at least 11:1.... c'mon guys, this is kindy stuff, get your act together.
Another point is you mentioned head flow being 370cfm.... you didn't mention if you actually flow tested the head... so, saying it flowed 370,doesn't mean a thing unless you see it with your own eyes... and as we all know, that figure is usually at .700 plus lift, no low, mid range figures, and also very few heads flow the advertised numbers.... so when the power number don't add up, you haven't got a clue where the hp went...??? Also, no mention of mcsa, which is extremely important into matching cam to rev range.
You do a great job of explaining what bits and how you put them together , but, garbage in equals garbage out. Remember, the hp you missed out on is the hp you need to worry about???
Sorry to be so negative, but these are very basic 1st week engine designing rules. Hopefully next time you'll take a bit more care.
"I conned my Dad." I doubt you fooled you father. He knew what he was getting into. And there he was, helping you get an engine. Awesome.
Filming is always top notch! Thanks! The journey is always fun too. Can’t stop watching.
Those are good numbers considering your build. I'd be proud of those numbers. That engine will pin you in you seat in that vette.
It's really cool to see you doing your own build. This is going to be a sweet Vette when it's all done !
Thanks!
Thumbs up for throwing in the metric system jab. Actually helped me a lot. This Corvette project is good stuff.
I’m building a 1982 C3 as I said in another comment. Some day a 82 anniversary Vette will be worth some money. But I’m buying it from a buddy, with the original fresh build 350 engine that only made 200hp. I’m going to strip the car and install a cage. Use the fresh short block with a set of Aluminum high flow heads from Trick - Flow. A nasty cam with springs and lifters. Smash the Cross-fire system. He has a new aluminum intake with a 750 Holley. I truly believe I can make 400-450hp with this engine. With a Nitrous Express plate with spray bar it will make over 500-550hp with a 150-200 shot of Nitrous after further research. I plan to install a man pedal with a Tremec TKX 5spd. I’m not worried about hurting this engine, because I really want a LS setup like you have. It should get under 3,000 pounds when I’m finished. We need more videos like this for guys on a budget. I will only have $5,000 bucks in a rust free C3 Vette with a fresh 350. Body is very clean with solid floors and no cracks or fading in the fiberglass. With a new TKX I will have around $10-$12k with new wheels and tires. Race seats and a safe cage. My buddy already put new suspension in the car with new heavy duty half shafts. I will have a killer street/strip car for around $10k. With a few late nights and weekends and help from some buddies I will have a fun C3 Vette that I’m not afraid to beat on. My long term goal for the car is a fresh 6.2LS with a TorqStorm supercharger. Then I will have a 10 second C4 for under $20k. Perfect car for some Drag & Drive events. Guys need to see that you can still build a fast car in the garage on a budget. Having a nice looking C3 that run 12’s for around $10. Or a badass C3 that runs 10’s with a new LS for under $20k. Guys think you have to spend $50k or more for a nice car. Just not true. Love videos like this. 🇺🇸🦅🏁Had to make a second comment on this video. It’s that good. Shows you don’t need a big bank account to have perfect fun car ..
The LEDs on the coil plugs are a "why the fuck has nobody ever done this before?!?" feature. LEGITIMATELY awesome.
That is a cool accessory kit. Be awesome if they update it and make the waterpump itself replaceable, like a round o-ring sealed pump.
As much as I am a Mopar fan, I love the LS platform. Tons of aftermarket support to make tons of power. Love what you did on this one. Great job, sir!! 👌
Thanks! And thanks for watching!
@@TheHorsepowerMonster I guarantee the intake design held back the last 15-20 hp a holley hi ram 102 would get them back
You lucky dog. Keith put together your engine. You know it was done right.
Truth!
That's Awesome that you work with Keith Dorton that guy is a Legend
Awesome video as always. Thats gonna be a blast in the vette.
Thanks! And thanks for watching!
Just found your channel, liked/subscribed, noti. bell.
1980, 81, 82 Body style is still one of my favorite cars.
I bought a one year old 1981 black on black 4-spd , put a full suspension kit on it nylon bushings, koni shocks, ++ , black Epsilon wheels - the only maker I know of that produced a wheel that didn't need spacers. Put 90K miles on it in 8 years. Sold it.
In 1991 I bought an 11 year old black on black 1980 L-82 with 10K miles on it, planned on doing all the suspension etc. again and supercharging it, but it was just to nice a car to do all to - or so I thought. I paid $16,500 for it, a lot of money 31 years ago.
OK looking forward to seeing your C-3 Corvette build burning rubber.
That is a hell of a slogan for a t-shirt 👍
That spiro-lock tool is TRICK!
It's pretty legit. They have replaceable ends if you are using different size wrist pins (big block, etc.) but I mostly get by with the .927. Thanks for watching!
Fitech what's holding it back there good budget set ups
I'm loving it! All internal combustion engines are only 30% efficient which leaves only RPMs or forced induction or displacement. On a streetable engine without a poweradder, you have to go big! I'm lovin it! I can't wait to see how that Corvette turns out! I'm really loving the aluminum wheels and fiberglass composite transverse monoleaf springs in that car, not to mention your work on the chassis! You got one of the best of the C3s! If you haven't checked out Dave McLelland's book on Corvette development, you should get it. It's a fantastic history of the car and will answer some great questions! Keep up the great work, I love this channel!
Very interesting and in-depth. Thanks again for your time today. I'm looking forward to seeing more on this project.
I’ve just built a similar engine myself, I started with a new LS3 block, bored it to 4.075 and stroked to 4.125 with 6.125 rods. It’s 431 C.I.
It would be interesting to dyno the motor with a FAST LSx manifold that’s more like the stock corvette intake manifold
I absolutely loved Chevy Hi Perf and GM Hi Tech Performance. I built an 11.8 CR 416 with a 240/250 .623 .617 114 cam and Stage 2.5 WCCH LS3 heads with a stock L92 intake and 90mm TB that made 530whp in a TBSS. The LS3 heads are really impressive on a 4.065"+ bore only, on a 4" bore they're a dog. After you get it built you should compare that intake to the BTR Equalizer, Fast, ported stock intake and a Texas Speed Performance Titan.
It's coming along a true work of art
Enjoyed watching. I can relate to the magazines closing down. There was a time I was contributing to ten every month. I was having a ball and they actually paid good money. I'm sure this engine will provide a good bit of fun power. You have to love that ARP hardware. Cheers
Hey John!
This kit is so appealing.
That engine sounds as close to a small block chevy as you can without a carb and actual small block and I approve. Love it.
I like this more in depth style
Even though it's not a new style but it brings more flavor
I always enjoy your videos, even the 5th time around. Keep up the good work sir!
That forethought about the alternator situation on a race oriented motor is nice! I’m fighting that battle right now on an SBC in a 3rd gen F body that originally was equipped with a 10SI alternator. I’ve burned up 2 or 3 now. They worked fine until a couple trips up to my 6500 rpm redline then fail shortly after. I do stress them a little more than usual with the addition of EFI and a much higher capacity electric fan though.
you and your dad and the men that work on these wild motors are great . I could only dream of. I have a 2004 scion and a 91 2500 chevy truck which am been fixing backup for the road, but with gas as high as it is and lack of funds ill just be glad to be running later on. be safe and take care guys.
A really interesting build. I like that year Vet and that kind of power should be a lot of fun.
That is going to be a mean street car, Im sure the body work will go much easier looking at that shinny new engine
Superb video. One of my very favorite channels.
Thanks a lot. Much appreciated!
I would think that is a lot of duration for a street motor with heads that flow that good. I think a different cam could easily pick that thing up 50+hp and maybe even get 50ft-lb torque too. 23:50 I don't care for that stepped transition in the intake either. That could be causing some turbulence that kills that head with that intake. It would be neat to flow them together on the flow bench to see if that intake hurts it a bunch.
Nice Job , keep it up !
Motor looks great. Awesome video
I've installed maybe 5 LS oil pumps and never worried about centering the lobes. I guess they were basically all used engines with the matching used pump though
Great video as always, that is going to be a fun engine for your corvette. Plenty of smiles with that set up.✌😁
Hey, thanks! And thanks for watching!
Nice ! And the sound is a healthy one!
Cathedral port "originally called tear drop port" heads make big power with the right combo, ppl that revert back to rectangular ports probably have rectangular port shaped heads above the shoulders. Good choice for the build! Also needs a crank driven blower if it's possible to fit the C3. That many cubes will benefit more from a blower IMO, also seems like the cam fell off early. Maybe I'm missing the point that the cam might have been chosen for a blower application to begin with, that'd definitely get those torque numbers up but 250hp over stock is nothing to cry about, the C3 would be a handful with those numbers alone.
Do they still do the Cannonball Run? You entering that Vette in the Cannonball Run and filming it would win the i-nets = >
Loved the video as always! Wish Comp made that shaft rocker system with a roller rocker.
Thanks much!
Thank you for the content brother.I Luv that engine. And I will prob use that mid mount kit in my 6.0L swap.
Surprised the system doesn’t monitor the oil pressure as a safety system to warn and cut the engine if there’s a problem. Great build though👍👍
Really nice video !
Thank you very much!
what a sweet engine and good vid again!
Thanks! And thanks for watching!
Looking forward to a ride in the Vette. Gitter Donnnnnne!
Nice engine Mate ! Love the Aussie Account too lol! 😂
As always really enjoy your vids ! This would be a good turbo candidate!
Sending this to my friend Tony maybe for the '77 'Vette if everything works out as planned...
Fun fact. I have October 2016 Chevy High Performance sitting on my night stand.
It was a great mag!
You definitely had the best to build it !
A different cam and a bump in compression and that thing would be an animal
You may not want to hear this, but those sheet metal intakes are famous for low NA power. They hold onto a ton of boost. but for NA its robbing you of HP. Richard holdener has dozens of videos of those on dynos. If you want more mid range punch, id recommend dorman ls2. If you want more top end, BTR trinity or equalizer.
Excellent work as always. I always love your attention to detail. I know this is a little off topic, but what ever happened to your 427 sbc you built all those years ago? I remember the dyno video, and I always expected to see it go in your Camaro. Thanks for the great content.
wrap your cash "in fiberglass" great build - america's sportscar
Too good..... Hell yeah 👍🤘🤘
The way that engine bay looked I wouldn't be surprised if that was a flood damage vehicle. Did you look at the interior to see if there was a water line?
That's a good thought. I think I only stuck my head inside the door for about 10 seconds. Don't remember what it was like in there. Thanks for watching!
Damn Shame Chevy Performance went under, internet has done that to a lot of publications. Great Content man
Oh fuck those spiro locks man. I fought so fucking hard with those. But I got the tool and yah it just makes it so easy. Work the money 10x over.
Glad to hear!
I'd.
-Swap the intake for a Holley hi-ram with dual 4-bbl efi throttles.
-Ditch the Fitech for a more capable ecu. With enough I/O for oil, coolant and fuel pressure+temp sensors.
Can never have too much data. It's the best way to protect the $$ invested in the long block. An ecu will pick low oil pressure, loss of fuel pressure or high coolant pressure seconds before you happen to glance at a gauge, or start to hear/feel something off.
You are right on all counts. The FiTech isn't bad by any means, but I think there are better options for high performance. Thanks for watching!
You should call this thing the "Abomavette". That engine sounds good man! Very cool setup.
Thanks!
But I think that will sound too much like “Obama Vette”. Don’t want to start a political fight here. All I want to do is burn gas and make horsepower!
@@TheHorsepowerMonster is “Brovette” taken?
@@kz6fittycent Ha!
Very cool build and a high quality video. .That is a very cool tool for the spirolocks, but I can't believe people still use spirolocks.
Nothing exceeds like excess
Yes!
a few years ago I built an LS 7 N/A with some compression and parts selection using a scale to keep solid roller valvetrain mass low we achieved 771hp at 7200 with 597tq at 5100, crazy expensive
great narratives on point...please say oil GALLEY, galleries are where one shows ones art collection
Do you think the compression was holding back the power? I thought you would have done 11:1 at least. Perhaps you are considering forced induction .....
You only have 200 more ponies than that stock stuff can put to the ground.
Either way, that's a pretty sweet engine.
I was thinking 630 out of that set up! I have a 408 with Mamo Motorsports 205 heads, a 226/230 grind cam, and a TBSS intake in my regular cab Silverado. It’s a hoot on the street, and mine probably only makes mid 500 hp and torque.
A different cam could have hit that 600 make probably pretty easily, but not be nearly as streatable. That thing is making gobs of power down low and in the middle, it's gonna be a blast to drive I'm sure.
VERY GOOD JOB FOR THE LS , OVERKILL IS FU-KING GOOD A VETTE KEEP GOING /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////😎😎😎
Jeff, do you have more room for a bigger oil pan? I bet that shorter intake would have helped get over the 600 Hp mark.
With that cam and static compression, what’s the dynamic compression? I’d guess the cam is to big.
Pull that fitech off there put a carbureted intake on it with a carburetor on it and you will make 600 horsepower
Why would they not monitor oil pressure???
Hey , what are you doing swapping out that 74 - 80 smallblock in that Corvette?? Don't you know they had the highest lift cams and the best flowing heads EVER!? lol
Whoa IDK your final mako shark vette is using what basically the engine from a rapper wagon!
Do you weigh pistons, wrist pins and retainers and pistons and mix n match them for closest overall weights?
Nope, modern quality components are all matched from the manufacturer. If it was stock I would have. Thanks for watching
Cowl hood will cover it
“It only got worse from here.”
Yep…
No oil pressure monitoring? That's dumb
Agreed. I tried to point it out as politely as I could. (But you said it better!)
don't be too hard on yourself - I understood 6.4litres loud and clear all the way down here 🇦🇺😂😂
I bet they rate it at 700hp because of injector sizing not the intake's ability to make that much power
Agreed
@@TheHorsepowerMonster from my testing experience those intakes are pretty bad. We would often see them kill up to 40 ftlbs and possibly make 5hp right at peak, as I'm sure you are well aware
@@wilcoxblues27 that's really bad
I think you would see better numbers without the fabricated intake. A Holley highram or a fast lsx intake seem to make better power from what I’ve seen.
It’s a good engine build, however it should have made WELL over 600. The LSA on the cam is way too wide. Period. For N/A it should be 110 at most, probably 108…. And it’s great power for such low compression but unless it’s going to see boost it could have been 12:1 and still ran on pump gas. Those 2 changes would have gotten it well into the mid 600 range. I’ve built a few max effort n/a LS engines and know this from my own trial and error. My last 416 with stock casting 823 heads and a custom GPI cam made 730hp.
👍Nice
Nice build. David Vizard would probably tell you that you hurt the peak torque and power by going with such a wide LSA - My bet is that he'd spec a 105 or 106 LSA, not 113. He spec'd a 251/251 @.050 with 105 LSA for my much less impressive 406 SBC. I told him I was targetting peak hp at 6000rpm.
I like a wider LSA because they tend to help low-end torque production, but you're probably right about helping the peak. Thanks for watching!
@@TheHorsepowerMonster - Understood. My application is even more torque challenged than yours - a Datsun 240Z with a 406, with 255 wide tires being as large as I can go. So the loss of low end torque didn't bother me. The midrange pull is very strong though!
@@pete540Z You're right, torque is tough to make with those. Sounds like a fun build, though!
@@TheHorsepowerMonster Torque is tough to make with a 406 small block chevy?
@@pete540Z Oh no! My bad! I read Datsun and basically didn't read anything else. I thought we were talking about the straight six those things came with. Now I'm doubly impressed, a 406 with 255 tires on that thing should be a blast! Sorry bout that.
Applause for mixing ring size measuring systems -- ."043, .043, 3mm!" Good rebuild mod video.
Maybe the low ram would make more power with those heads and cam at higher RPM. Possibly a stock stroke 3.62would have done just as well.
It's very possible
You Punched In 408CID On The Controller Not 416CID Try Fixing That It Should Let You Hit It A Little Harder 💯
Loose the Fitech and get Fuel Tech or Holley.
What trns you gonna use?
Do you mean trans? Probably a 4L80E to get started. The Corvette is an automatic car and I want to get it up and running as quickly as possible.
Valve spring swap every 25k miles isn’t too street?
Note how the motor is offset to the passenger side...
well around 500hp aint bad at all i got to say
True!
It may be sacrilegious but you can have too much power for a given chassis. If you don't believe look at the blown Mercury that really had no business being driven on the road IMO. I'm not saying this is. Just that there does come a time when sense makes sense.
Your compression ratio and intake is killing that motor.
Is it an aluminium or iron block?
If I can suggest something, maybe You could make an episode about the break-in process - there many different methods/theories/legends.
Thank You for the video, I watched it with pleasure, as always.
Given the amount and type of rust I'd say Iron.
I figured I would let you know that every video of yours I watch there is a very slight ringing sound in the background and it moves with your voice kind of adding a very very faint robot effect. It seems to be in every video of yours but no one else's so it may be your microphone. People with hearing damage will know what I'm talking about LOL
Sorry, does anyone else hear it?