New Rugby Laws: What It Means For The Springboks

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2024
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    World Rugby is introducing new laws and more law variations to be implemented from January 1st. Some may or may not negatively affect the Springboks.
    In this episode Peter expertly breaks it down for you to better understand what exactly is going on.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 289

  • @desertstar223
    @desertstar223 27 днів тому +17

    Do not allow the TMO to overrule the on field officials. It's becoming farcical now. Set CLEAR guidelines for the TMO

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Yeah, I'm in two minds because on the one hand it's good to get the correct decision but at the same time one of the great things about sport is the drama of human error on the part of the referee.

    • @Karma-qt4ji
      @Karma-qt4ji 26 днів тому

      100 percent NO!!! No one complains about the TMO when the decision goes in their favour. You think I was whinging when the TMO noticed the ball lost forward by Scotland that overturned the try against my Springboks? But I have listened this week to some of my countrymen bleat incessantly about a forward pass overturning Arendse's try, and complaining that the referee should have seen Itoge's neck roll. But he didn't. He gets one shot at it where we get HD slomos and replays till the cows come home. I would rather take 30 seconds and get the decision right! Even when it goes against my team.

    • @citedcanvas85
      @citedcanvas85 8 днів тому

      Yes. On field ref must be the decision maker. Tmo is merely there for additional advice.

  • @sakabula2357
    @sakabula2357 27 днів тому +29

    They should get all the refs on the same page with the current rules before they tinker on more laws

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +3

      Yes, that would be nice. Most folks don't know what's going on anymore.

    • @sakabula2357
      @sakabula2357 27 днів тому +2

      @frontrowrugby You can't celebrate a try anymore until the other team walks back to the halfway line to restart the game...

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +2

      @@sakabula2357 It's so frustrating, isn't it?

    • @stevedavidson666
      @stevedavidson666 26 днів тому +1

      Or maybe stop changing the freaking rules so much?

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому +1

      @@stevedavidson666 I'm with you Steve. I genuinely believe most fans don't know what's going on anymore.

  • @jonfallis305
    @jonfallis305 27 днів тому +38

    the tmo dragging game back for a supposed infringement 15 moves earlier is increasingly the problem

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      Yeah I'm in two minds. I like the idea that we make the correct decision but at the same time human error is one of the things that makes sport great by adding to the drama.

    • @matthewvanrensburg3824
      @matthewvanrensburg3824 27 днів тому +1

      Yeah, the on field refs missing more and more, not good for rugby at all that we have to rely on tmo's to get the calls right

    • @groenrizla2513
      @groenrizla2513 27 днів тому

      You talking about the Argentina try after the infringement that happened more than a minute earlier and the game had moved 85 metres by then.
      Tim from egg chasers was talking about that and he's 100% correct in his analogy.
      Absolute disgrace.

    • @jonfallis305
      @jonfallis305 27 днів тому +1

      also eng vs sa examples, destroys atmos and flow

    • @runforrestrun1965
      @runforrestrun1965 27 днів тому +1

      Yeah, cost NZ the World Cup with the try overturned even though ref said try was ok originally.

  • @pierremalan3009
    @pierremalan3009 27 днів тому +21

    put the ball in straight at the scrum would be nice!!!

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      That would be very nice!

    • @menelise
      @menelise 27 днів тому +1

      Hear, hear!

    • @qui3tstorm793
      @qui3tstorm793 27 днів тому

      ​@frontrowrugby I thought about that too, but I realized that wouldn't work because it'd be no advantage to the team to which the infringement was caused. And also, if an attacking team knocks it on close to the opposition try line and they have the stronger scrum, it would be like they would be gifted and rewarded for their own mistake. Correct me if I'm wrong?

    • @Kubeka2
      @Kubeka2 27 днів тому

      First define what is 'straight'.
      It's probably easier than to define what is 'forward'.

    • @roryblake3232
      @roryblake3232 27 днів тому

      Parallel to the try lines

  • @whiteybester9160
    @whiteybester9160 27 днів тому +31

    I think the new law will be that you are not allowed to tackle a Northern Hemisphere player. 😂

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +2

      Hahahaha! Brilliant.

    • @mhoppy6639
      @mhoppy6639 27 днів тому +2

      @@whiteybester9160 I remember the “Dan Carter” comment when someone said that about him. Can’t remember who said it though🤣🤣

    • @Dalf80s
      @Dalf80s 27 днів тому +2

      Hahahaha😂

    • @annetteelliott1494
      @annetteelliott1494 27 днів тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @georgefrederikoosthuizen891
      @georgefrederikoosthuizen891 27 днів тому +2

      Exactly

  • @pheasantplucker6117
    @pheasantplucker6117 27 днів тому +7

    We didn't get all this faffing around back in the the day when Gareth Edwards scored his glorious try for the Babas against the All blacks. No TMO's no slow mo.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Indeed. There was none of that in those days.

  • @johanschoeman869
    @johanschoeman869 27 днів тому +11

    I detest it when a try is scored and the TMO brings everything to a standstill. I think the on field ref should refer to the TMO when he/she is in doubt but please dont give the TMO unlimited powers to pick out every infraction. It is refereeing by committee for goodness sake. I have no doubt that this change will have unintended consequences by slowing the game down.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      Haha, I know what you mean. I'm in two minds. On the one hand I think it's great that we make sure we get the right decision. Remember last year in the World Cup final the All Blacks' try was called back (I think it was because of a knock-on). But on the other hand one of the beauties of sport is the element of human error on the part of a referee. It adds to the theatre.

    • @Reg2B
      @Reg2B 27 днів тому

      I understand your point of view because no enough TMO at WRC was an advantage for springboks !!😅😅😅

    • @JohnTerblanche-l1r
      @JohnTerblanche-l1r 26 днів тому

      ​@@Reg2Bnot their fault Sam Cane cant tackle, we saw in the Rugby Championships he gave Siya a broken cheekbone go watch the first game highlights till the end. So dont come with your childishness, Boks are 11/13 this season and you complain about reffs... This is the best gen bok team ever.

    • @citedcanvas85
      @citedcanvas85 8 днів тому

      Yes. Increasingly losing interest in the game everytime this happens. Lengthens the game unnecessarily

  • @dougerrohmer
    @dougerrohmer 26 днів тому +3

    "If the line out is not contested, play on on a skeef throw". No problem, because the throwing in team don't know that it's gonna be uncontested, so they still have to try for straight. The contesting team, on the other hand now have at least three guys who would have been lifting and jumping ready for the next move with their feet on the ground. Opens up possibilities for Rassie.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому

      It does open possibilities. I just wonder if there are going to be any teams willing to take the risk.

    • @dougerrohmer
      @dougerrohmer 24 дні тому +1

      @@frontrowrugby I think they are doing it now already, not contesting lineouts near their own line so they can be ready to counter the rolling maul.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  24 дні тому

      @@dougerrohmer Absolutely.

  • @mhoppy6639
    @mhoppy6639 27 днів тому +11

    I not a saffa and I think it’s outrageous if these tweaks are directed at SA. Rugby has always been a power game but players like Cheslin show that if you’re good enough it’s still a game for different shapes and sizes even at pro level. It’s up to other teams like us (England) to front up and come up with tactics or players to counter or better the best team in the world. Changing laws is not the way to do it. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 love watching you guys play.
    2) not a fan of the TMO protocol. Ben whitehouse interfered with the Fassie try and basically gave Brace nowhere to go. It was his phraseology. Don’t like the way he didn’t just say “I’ve got something to show you” rather than “I’m going to show you a forward pass”
    But that’s Ben Whitehouse for you.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +3

      Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment - appreciate it.
      Of course we don't want to believe these laws are deliberately changed to target us but some of them really come across as designed to negate our strengths i.e. free kick instead of another scrum option.
      Indeed it is a sport for different shapes and sizes, even at pro level!
      Appreciate your kind words and while we do like to poke fun at our rivals, we love nothing more than going toe to toe with England and others when they are at their very best.
      Agree with you on the TMO protocol. Very frustrating stuff!

    • @Deontjie
      @Deontjie 6 днів тому +1

      Not aimed at the Boks, aimed at the Southern Hemisphere.

  • @funkyronin8694
    @funkyronin8694 27 днів тому +5

    The goal line dropkick rule after a defending player grounds the ball is stupid because you are rewarding the opposition player for the mistake of kicking it too far. They should've kept it as a 22 drop

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      I agree!

    • @deonmuller6378
      @deonmuller6378 26 днів тому +1

      @@frontrowrugby It is now clearly a tactic to kick and force the defending team to kill the ball and thereby gain ground. Also to try and force the defending team to run the ball from behind their try line.

  • @adamvanderriet9669
    @adamvanderriet9669 27 днів тому +7

    Constant law changes are the bane of rugby fans' lives, seemingly made by people who've never actually played the game. It's like they're trying to turn rugby union into rugby league, but also touch rugby as well, LOL! I get that safety is a priority, but zero tolerance regarding head contact and TMO overreach for instance is becoming a very real problem. If issues like head contact is such an issue, then they need to mandate headgear, so that they can factor in accidental head contact into the equation, because the number of yellow and red cards being dished out for absolutely nothing is beyond ridiculous at this point. If anything, the more they keep meddling with the laws, the less attractive and more diluted the game is getting, which is the exact opposite of what they claim they're trying to achieve.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +3

      You can say that again! I firmly believe most fans don't know what's going on anymore and who can blame them? I wonder sometimes if a lot of rugby reporters and pundits even know what's going on anymore!
      I'm in two minds on TMO overreach. On the one hand I like that we make sure we get the correct decision but on the other hand one of the beauties of sport is the human error on the part of a referee. It just adds to the theatre.
      The head injury thing is also a joke in my view. I firmly believe these guys are scared to death they are going to be on the wrong end of a lawsuit like we saw in the NFL in terms of things like CTE, dementia and Alzheimer's. Bottom line, this is a sport of collisions. No one wants any of the players to get brain damage but you accept there are risks involved if you play.

    • @adamvanderriet9669
      @adamvanderriet9669 27 днів тому +1

      @@frontrowrugby 100% agreed! \m/

    • @pheasantplucker6117
      @pheasantplucker6117 27 днів тому

      Yes agreed don't know why they don't mandate scrum caps.

  • @sarelvanderwalt5219
    @sarelvanderwalt5219 26 днів тому +1

    What is an uncontested line out? Nobody jumping? If so, if the prop at the 5m line jumps, the lineout is contested, even though the rest of the lineout doesn’t contest in the air.

  • @gkmarais
    @gkmarais 27 днів тому +7

    How about the ref just stopping the clock. Then players can't run the clock down. Let injured players who can walk be treated off the field.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Yeah, fair enough. I can't stand that an injured player gets treated on the field and then play just continues. Someone is going to get hurt doing that.

  • @nic0072
    @nic0072 27 днів тому

    When is a team deemed to contest a lineout? I'm thinking of the situation where the ball is thrown to the middle of a lineout, the opposition does not contest in the middle where the ball was thrown (ended up) but an opposition player does jump at the back of the lineout. Is this a contested lineout or not?

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      I would consider that a contested lineout. But perhaps they might have to ask the TMO!

  • @greggalant7543
    @greggalant7543 27 днів тому +2

    Tmo should be given a time limit to query a particular play, you cannot have Tmo 3 mins later bringing everyone back because of some infringement.

  • @aluncurtis6124
    @aluncurtis6124 27 днів тому +4

    Define uncontested lineout. If one player puts his arm in the air is that enough of a contest?

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +3

      Yeah if a player puts his arm in the air that should constitute a contest.

    • @roryblake3232
      @roryblake3232 27 днів тому +1

      If RG Snyman gets on tip toes

  • @markthompson7817
    @markthompson7817 26 днів тому +1

    The point that hasn’t been answered is how many phases, including changes of possession and stops in play can the video ref go back. I counted this number up to 12 or more last weekend.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому

      Yes, it appears as if it's as long as they want it to be.

  • @michaeldutton9484
    @michaeldutton9484 26 днів тому +1

    The main Ref should be the boss on the field. It looks like the TMO has more power. When Fassi supposedly passed the ball forward, the TMO's words were to the ref. "I want to show you a forward pass that occured". Well that didn''t give the ref any opition because the TMO had made his mind up dispite the Ref & Assistant Ref allowing play to continue. He should rather have said; "I want to check a possible forward pass." The same as in the the Pumas v Ireland game. There was an infringement by the Pumas that occured in their half, but the game was allowed to go on for over 10 phases, changing hands twice until the Pumas eventually scored a try 80+ metres on the opposite side of the field to where the ingringement first took place. The TMO then called the whole thing back and disallowed the try which could have meant the Pumas would have won the game. So nearly 5 mins of rugby was played for nothing!!! Talk about wasting time!!🤬

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому

      I agree. They need to draw the line somewhere and the wording needs to be very careful from the TMO.

  • @markthompson7817
    @markthompson7817 26 днів тому +1

    When you are a southern hemisphere team and you are top dog, usually the Boks or the ABs it always seem as if law changes are made to try and bring you down to the NH level. My parents in 1920 and they always said the same thing, so that one has been around for a long time.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому

      It's as if we've seen this movie before!

  • @travelogue.tv-takingyoupla774
    @travelogue.tv-takingyoupla774 27 днів тому +1

    Great content, thanks, but the muzak? Not so much. As someone already commented regarding uncontested lineouts makes a mockery of the important skill of being able to throw accurately. I wonder if straight put-ins to the scrum will ever happen? Doubt it, because officiating scrums is already a lottery.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Thank you so much for the feedback. Yeah just experimenting with the music. Always trying to make my videos better. But if there's enough negative feedback I'll kill it.
      Agree with your views on the lineouts and scrums all the way!

  • @geoffallen2835
    @geoffallen2835 6 днів тому +1

    I wish teams would throw in straight at any time, but recently, until now, a lot of teams almost never do.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  6 днів тому

      You are right, Geoff. There's another thing that happens at lineout time ... notice how the hooker's feet are inside the field of play. They all do it and it goes unpunished.

  • @stevedavidson666
    @stevedavidson666 26 днів тому +1

    Great comment about not changing union into league, and I'd like to ask you to use this platform to make sure that the new WR chairman, Aussie Robinson, isn't allowed to do anything to make that happen, as I believe his appointment was sought to do.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому +1

      Thank you, Steve! I'll do everything I can here to be of service to this sport that we all love so much.

  • @TheBuildKingR
    @TheBuildKingR 27 днів тому +5

    I'll definitely have a look at your book.
    - I think the lineout rule are stupid. Teams tend not contest when in the 5m because they would rather defend a maul, as it needs more focus. But I'm sure it will change again once the boks dominate that set piece.
    - I'm Happy the mark from kick off was rejected, it was stupid when I watched it in the canada/ tonga game if I remember correctly.
    😂 ball in play stat is a classic, it's like they don't understand that teams play to how the game goes in that moment.
    What they should do to get scrums done quicker should be simple.
    If the one team have a scrum and it goes fine, but when the other team has one and resets starts, it's clear the issue is with the other team. Freekick them and penalties afterwards. That should change the behaviour.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      Firstly thank you so much for the support in terms of my book. I really do appreciate it and if you enjoy the read please spread the word!
      I agree the lineout rule is stupid. Who is going to take the risk to throw skew or to the scrumhalf directly in the hope that the opposition doesn't contend?
      Agree on the mark from kick off ... also stupid!
      Ball in play is indeed a laugh.
      I like your suggestion on speeding up scrums. I think for me the only thing I would like to see is speeding up time in between things like scrums and the time goalkickers take which is what they've done. That's enough.

  • @mrintresting256
    @mrintresting256 25 днів тому +1

    When are they going to get rid of the caterpillar…..I thought they had and that’s why Etzebeth was doing so well with the charge downs in Twickenham….but then in other games it was still going on……confused ? 🤷‍♂️

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  25 днів тому +1

      Good question. So officially it's illegal now but as you and I have seen there still seem to be the odd instance of it. And then they wonder why no one knows what's going on anymore!

  • @thembamadi
    @thembamadi 27 днів тому +1

    The TMO one is a bit confusing. The wording states "before a try is cored", but in this past weekend SA vs ENG game, the TMO called it after the tries were scored. Which makes a mockery of the law. Or am I wrong ? My suggestion is rather that the nos of phases be agreed to similar to the call that was made at the finals of the RWC 2023. So agree that within 5 phases of each play and beyond the 5, the infringement is considered passed, unless it is a high injury infringement like a knock to the head or an eye gouging incident or tip topping incident or a crock roll or a knock on

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      It's so confusing I don't think anyone really knows what's going on anymore. You are quite right! It used to be that once the conversion is taken then the try stands but now we see them calling it back.
      I like your suggestion!

  • @lenrichardson7349
    @lenrichardson7349 27 днів тому +1

    Currently the TMO can't raise the infringment but only clarify for the Ref when asked. We have all seen the wrong question asked.

  • @Goggawie
    @Goggawie 27 днів тому +1

    Great analysis and info. Thanx

  • @frederickbotha2379
    @frederickbotha2379 27 днів тому +3

    Do not agree with the TMO enhanced power over the Referee !!!! If the Referee is not sure , then he can Request the TMO to assist.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Yeah, I'm in two minds because on the one hand I want the right decision to be made but also when the referee's human error comes into play it adds to the drama of the match.

  • @nic0072
    @nic0072 27 днів тому +1

    How about rather FORCING the oppposition to contest in the lineouts?

  • @markthompson7817
    @markthompson7817 26 днів тому

    Ball in play time may be similar to the old days but percentage of ball in play time as taken as a fraction of time form the initial the start to finish of the game is way less.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому

      But that's factoring in stoppages which I think we all agree we'd like to see sped up.

  • @lukeschimanski2995
    @lukeschimanski2995 13 днів тому +1

    They should make a rule the reff can't blow his whistle more than 20 times in a game😂

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  12 днів тому

      Now this is an idea I can get behind!

  • @waterbergtilapia
    @waterbergtilapia 27 днів тому +2

    That is considered to be the finial phases before a try? This thing of going back 5 of 6 phases after 2min of play to disallow a try. Is ridiculous. if it was missed by the on field ref ,so be it. the TMO has to much say in the game at the moment.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Yeah I agree. I am in two minds because I feel like it's good to get the correct decision but at the same time we accept there will be human error in the part of the referee. As you say if it's so edging that was missed 2 minutes ago, then do we really need to go back?

  • @pierremalan3009
    @pierremalan3009 27 днів тому +1

    the offside line from rucks is a mess. they need to introduce a line similar to the 100m sprint. that virtual line needs to be monitored at all times giving more space to make play

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Total mess. We would all like to see that fixed.

  • @AD_Saffa_HD
    @AD_Saffa_HD 27 днів тому +1

    Were they not trialling the uncontested lineouts during the rugby championship?

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      They were. That's why some of these are so strange to me, as I mentioned in the video.

    • @AD_Saffa_HD
      @AD_Saffa_HD 27 днів тому

      @frontrowrugby it's only a matter of time they nerf the bench. I can see them destroying the 6-2 or the 7-1 or something

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      @@AD_Saffa_HD You can see them trying to do it, can't you?

    • @AD_Saffa_HD
      @AD_Saffa_HD 27 днів тому

      @frontrowrugby anything to bring the Boks down a peg. Rassie is a genius ... he has found a loophole in every aspect of the game to use to his advantage and he's won 2 world cups and a rugby championship because of it. If that doesn't scream "Change the laws", I don't know what does 🤣

  • @paulmuller1082
    @paulmuller1082 26 днів тому +1

    You hit the nail on the head. It’s becoming NFL like, to appeal to the biggest sports audience in the world. So let’s cash in boys and bugger the fans. Stop destroying our game!!!

  • @mudgie3445
    @mudgie3445 26 днів тому +1

    I get the rules are being designed to increase playing time but by allowing the TMO to stop the game and go back 90 seconds and 5 or 6 phases just shows the game down.
    Silly!

  • @ColinAnderson-hy2oj
    @ColinAnderson-hy2oj 26 днів тому +1

    Let's see how Rassie plays with these new laws,

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому

      No doubt our coach is already ahead of them!

  • @AdriaanWindt
    @AdriaanWindt 27 днів тому

    It is interesting that the rules are not too difficult to understand, BUT it does not explain the differences in interpretation we see every weekend! That is frustrating

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      The problem is that as soon as you have scrums, rucks and mauls then the referee has to start making guesses or assumptions.

  • @RickcandKai
    @RickcandKai 27 днів тому

    If you don't contest on the line-out, the team throwing in the ball will win it in any case. I would rather suggest that the ball can't be thrown straight to the flyhalf. If it a long throw, it should be in line with the line-out

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Yes, that sounds like a far better solution.

  • @groenrizla2513
    @groenrizla2513 27 днів тому

    The not straight lineout throw encourages the opposition to contest, it's not a bad thing.
    What is the ball in play time in rugby league? I think they want to merge the 2 sports and then make it more appealing for the Americans.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      I think the lineout could have just been left alone but here we are.
      I don't watch rugby league and that in itself should tell World Rugby a story. I don't want to watch that!

  • @HandleCarefully925
    @HandleCarefully925 27 днів тому

    I do think the “20 minute red card” for certain infractions is a good thing. Quite often the person being penalized was not doing anything intentional, usually just a tiny timing issue, which when scrutinized more closely comes down to the action was already in process when the circumstances changed. Therefore the offending player doesn’t deserve to be banished from the rest of the game!!

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Nah, I don't like the 20 minute red card. What I would do though is make cards for foul/dangerous play only. As you say if it's a timing issue, then a penalty is usually sufficient.

  • @AntonduPreez
    @AntonduPreez 27 днів тому +2

    The reason why the "ball in play" is irrelevant due to "time off" called by the referee.
    The TMO reviews should be changed so that it may only by the team captain and they are limited to two wrong calls.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Exactly. Spot on, Anton. I like that suggestion.

  • @pheasantplucker6117
    @pheasantplucker6117 27 днів тому +1

    The callback on saturday s Twickenam by the TMO was a disgrace. 1 min 20 sec after the alleged offence

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Yeah we have to draw the line somewhere.

  • @barendvanderwesthuizen2929
    @barendvanderwesthuizen2929 27 днів тому +2

    The idea of an uncontested lineout is really stupid in other words if the other team doesn't contest you can throw as skew as you want. The whole idea of the game is to test skills and in lineouts we test if you can throw the ball straight, thats part of the play its like scrums being an automatic ball for the other team as long as they dont push that makes no sense.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      You've hit the nail on the head, Barend. Stupid is exactly what it is.

    • @roryblake3232
      @roryblake3232 27 днів тому

      Oh I'm looking forward to a thrower go straight to fly half, that would be hilarious

  • @garyvahl7658
    @garyvahl7658 22 дні тому +1

    New laws, do not tackle a Northern Hemisphere player and New Zealand starts all games with 15 points.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  22 дні тому

      You can see them actually making it official, can't you?

  • @greggalant7543
    @greggalant7543 27 днів тому +1

    If a penalty kick and other plays have a time limit, Tmo must be timed also.

  • @Woooofit
    @Woooofit 27 днів тому +2

    Throw should always be straight!!

  • @douglasbutler5195
    @douglasbutler5195 27 днів тому

    Make sure blood bins are checked not just rests??

  • @RobertZeelie-dz5zd
    @RobertZeelie-dz5zd 27 днів тому +2

    I think that a yellow carded player should join the game once his 10 minutes had expired. He could do it from behind his own goal line. Therefore he is immediately available for defense but not attack.

  • @FlashPelcher-km8ov
    @FlashPelcher-km8ov 27 днів тому +2

    The 20 Minute Red Card Law. Why Wait For 20 Minutes ? The Red Card Player Must Be Replace Immediately Their Is 8 Players On The Bench. Rugby Is These Days a 23 Man Game . The Red Card Law For 20 Minutes What If The Game Is In The 65th Or 70th Minute ? Then It Is A 14 Player Game. We Want 15 vs 15 For 80 Minutes. The Coaching Staff & Authorities Must Deal With The Red Card Player After The Game Ex. Match Suspensions / Fines. The Yellow Card Must Be Use For Warning To Players ( On Warning For 10 Minutes) Player Still On The Field But Any Offense In That 10 Minutes Upgrade The Yellow Warning To A Red.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      Nah, I don't like the 20-minute red card at all. Red card you're off. End of story.

    • @FlashPelcher-km8ov
      @FlashPelcher-km8ov 27 днів тому

      Why You Deleted My Comment.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      @@FlashPelcher-km8ov Your comment is still there. I don't understand.

  • @tpkorea6c
    @tpkorea6c 27 днів тому +2

    Interesting, but where are the rules to make the game safe? How can 13 or 14 players against 15 be save? The card system can or should be done as follows;
    1) Yellow cards as in football- penalty and play goes on. If the same player get's another yellow, then red. If a team gets 3 yellow cards in 1 game, that 3rd player get's a red.
    Cards that become red will then become a one game no play for that player. Rules need to be consistent and clear.
    2.) Red cards: There are 8 players on the bench. When 1 player get's a red, that player must be replaced. There will then be 7 players on the bench but that team can then only replace 6 players. Another red and they can only replace 4 more players although there are 6 players on the bench. Depending on the severity, players will miss 1 - 4 games.
    3) There must always be 30 players on the field. Only for the front-row players (1, 2, 3) there must be an exception. They must always be relaced even after a team made a substitution earlier. Rules again must be clear and fairly interpreted.
    4.) All players must wear head gear and they should be fair with head to head contact rules. These guys run and don't hit each other on the head on purpose. If both are bend over (low), then how can you avoid it? Yes, get your body position correct, but that is easier said than done.
    Anyway, I think my card system will work and players will be more careful and the game will be interesting and more save.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Some interesting proposals you've made there.
      I do however think a red card should see the player sent off. End of story but I also think cards should be for dangerous play only.

  • @deebrowne1136
    @deebrowne1136 27 днів тому

    All the southern hemisphere’s teams will soon adapt 🇿🇦🇿🇦♥️♥️

  • @tinusmarais1635
    @tinusmarais1635 27 днів тому +1

    To make the game better it needs less rules not more complicating the game for the same spectators they try to entertain.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      I agree, Tinus. I really think a lot of fans don't know what's going on half the time anymore because of all the law changes.

  • @jacquespienaar4687
    @jacquespienaar4687 27 днів тому +2

    Decisive refereeing with minimal TMO interference in the recent NZ/France match resulted in one of the most entertaining games of the year . . . . maybe World Rugby should look and learn

  • @WimPrins13
    @WimPrins13 27 днів тому +2

    60 seconds for the conversion kick? There goes Manie …. lol

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Ha, no comment.

    • @AntonduPreez
      @AntonduPreez 27 днів тому +1

      It might actually help him since he will have less time to panic

    • @WimPrins13
      @WimPrins13 27 днів тому

      @@AntonduPreez true that ....

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      @@AntonduPreez Haha, maybe!

  • @dewaldventer1372
    @dewaldventer1372 27 днів тому +5

    Why can't the players make the laws. They are guys playing the game! Their bodies are on the line. They will tell you what works and whatnot.
    Not n bunch of fat Boy's in the office and kitchen!
    Surely, they will come up with the best laws.

  • @waterbergtilapia
    @waterbergtilapia 27 днів тому +2

    I love a scum. it is a game with in the game. It is not all about running.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Exactly!! Scrums are one of the key components that make rugby what it is!

  • @moheganforfreedom4265
    @moheganforfreedom4265 27 днів тому +1

    We'll end up with rugby league line out taps

  • @auscowboy8950
    @auscowboy8950 26 днів тому +1

    Just waiting for the law change that actually impacts the Boks 😂

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому

      Free kick instead of taking another scrum.

    • @auscowboy8950
      @auscowboy8950 26 днів тому

      @ I didn’t realise that taking a scrum off of a free kick was only allowed by the Boks. Also, that wasn’t in this set of changes though. Nothing in this new set of laws affects the Boks more than any other team.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  25 днів тому

      @@auscowboy8950 It's not but it is something that affects our strategy. And the point of the video was to discuss the new law changes and look at how it may or may not affect the Boks and the way we play.
      Mate, I say this with the greatest of respect, but this channel is for Springbok fans. You're not the target audience.
      You're welcome here, but you need to understand the content is not made with you in mind.

  • @francoisbezuidenhout4638
    @francoisbezuidenhout4638 27 днів тому +1

    Trying to neutralize the might of the Boks by adding to the law book. It will be to no avail. 😂

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Rassie will find a way around their nonsense!

  • @peeps977
    @peeps977 26 днів тому

    They must tinker with IRB

  • @nic0072
    @nic0072 27 днів тому

    The 50/22 kick rule is also ridiculous.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      I must be honest I don't mind that one.

    • @nic0072
      @nic0072 27 днів тому

      @@frontrowrugby The problem I have with that is that it encourages teams to get an advantage from a kick instead of running the ball. Now - if you attack from inside your half and your move ends inside the opposition 22 with your winger being tackled into touch, you lose possession. So this law does not make sense unless you don't really like attacking, running rugby. I'm pretty sure this suggestion came from England (who rather like to kick than run the ball).

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      @nic0072 interesting take indeed. Always good to have a go at England by the way! Hahaha!

  • @deebrowne1136
    @deebrowne1136 27 днів тому

    The BOKKE will still work around them Rassie are moons ahead ♥️♥️🇿🇦🇿🇦

  • @bbkfox
    @bbkfox 24 дні тому

    Cath-up play will be a benifit to the losing team.TMO will have a field day turning the deficit

  • @tomsawyer4321
    @tomsawyer4321 2 дні тому +1

    If the last law changes, which were designed to neutralize the bok pack , are any guide I expect the new law changes will ban short, super quick and agile wingers like Kolbe and Arendse😅😅😅,

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  2 дні тому +1

      Yes, very good point Tom! Haha, you can see it coming in the future.

  • @JohnTerblanche-l1r
    @JohnTerblanche-l1r 26 днів тому

    For all those Bok fans moaning about TMO. Just imagine if we had a functional one at 2011 WC qtr final when Bryce Lawrence missed blatant illegal turnovers in the opposition 22. The same reff became head of referees in NZ and retired after the WC. So dont complain about TMO, eggchasers is a sore loser, that was a clear forward look where Fassie is when the ball is released. Obviously some forwards are allowed to reward attacking teams, but only marginal ones.

  • @jamieallam8809
    @jamieallam8809 15 днів тому

    They need to do something. The last world cup was gifted to SA. Everyone knows it

  • @Gavsta60
    @Gavsta60 27 днів тому

    So EVERY lineout will now be contested!!

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Maybe. I just think they could have left it alone.

    • @Gavsta60
      @Gavsta60 26 днів тому

      @@frontrowrugby - You know World Rugby...take the things that matter and ignore them, take inconsequential little bitty things and they'll move heaven and earth. 🙄🙄

  • @willieholt1998
    @willieholt1998 22 дні тому +1

    If uou can throw the ball where you like if un contested how do you know its going to be uncontested and secondly if you dont throw in straight as a requirement then you remove cometition for the wall

  • @andresullivan6473
    @andresullivan6473 25 днів тому +1

    My friend the music must go it's iiratating

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  25 днів тому

      Hey Andre, thanks for the feedback. It is gone! I tried it out for two videos (maybe three) and the feedback was strongly on the side of "get rid of it" and so it is done. No more music.

  • @chrismia2402
    @chrismia2402 24 дні тому +1

    Becoming rugby league - is this all to help Australia back up the rankings? Seems like it, poor, very poor from WR. Whenever rules and competitions are changed to suit Australia the competition dies - see super rugby, it’s dead.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  24 дні тому

      I hate to be the conspiracy theorist but we all know who is hosting the next Rugby World Cup and it would be a bad look if the host nation doesn't do well at their own tournament. Now think about the law changes and one and one looks like it makes two, doesn't it?

  • @biggest23
    @biggest23 26 днів тому +1

    The TMO should only be able to go back 4 phases. There should be a set number of phases, or meters made, to allow penalty advantage over. There should only be four replacements on the bench, or you might as well make the game even moreof a low cardio, galumpers paradise, like that snooze-fest NFL.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому

      I like that idea of going back a maximum number of phases.
      Just a word on the replacements, World Rugby's own research has concluded that more replacements equals fewer injuries so if anything it could be increased to nine or even ten in years to come.
      PS I quite like the NFL ... but that's just me.

  • @ven_one
    @ven_one 26 днів тому +1

    Maybe fans need to begin boycotting and go against world rugby. First baby steps, even if we have to work at eliminating "world rugby." We, the fans, don't want continuous changes to the game we love. There are too many changes to this game that has worked fine in the past.
    Too many chiefs at the top making big money, controlling our game. Us supporters have the numbers to make proper changes by boycotting.

  • @reniervanheerden6830
    @reniervanheerden6830 25 днів тому

    When a player receives a red card; that player must be sent off permanently for the game, but must be replaced by a player from the bench.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  25 днів тому

      Nah, I disagree with you on this one. Red card, you're off and your team is down to 14.

    • @reniervanheerden6830
      @reniervanheerden6830 24 дні тому

      @frontrowrugb like it or not; Rugby is a business. If an employee gets dismissed from his/her job,does the employer not replace that person with someone else. Why must the business suffer because of one employee's indiscretion. Please Remember it's not the team that suffers everybody else suffers. A rugby team that is worth its salt, wants to play the best, strongest and full strength team possible.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  24 дні тому

      @reniervanheerden6830 Sure, but, I also think sport has several aspects that are different from your every day business situation.
      If I'm not performing well at work can I go home and someone else takes my place? (Substitution)
      Actually that's a great idea come to think of it!

    • @reniervanheerden6830
      @reniervanheerden6830 24 дні тому +1

      @frontrowrugby That player that received the red card will have a disciplinary hearing afterwards. Like you have in any job/business.If the player is found guilty he will be punished accordingly.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  24 дні тому

      @reniervanheerden6830 I hear you, but I'd still send him off. For me it adds to tje drama of the occasion. That said I know many sports just send the players off but allow someone else to come on in his place.

  • @donovannolan4305
    @donovannolan4305 26 днів тому +1

    they can change the laws however they want to but the bokke will still win

  • @Torquilina
    @Torquilina 27 днів тому

    For a start refs should apply the existing rules eg throw ins with the hooker standing on or indeed within the line.

  • @Matt-mv1zg
    @Matt-mv1zg 27 днів тому +1

    THEY ARE HANDICAPPING RUGBY!!!!

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      It's like they can't stop themselves!

  • @Mail2elr
    @Mail2elr 27 днів тому +2

    Rugby is starting to loose me.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      Many fans don't know what's going on anymore.

  • @MrBreakdownBoy
    @MrBreakdownBoy 27 днів тому +1

    Really need to get rid of Belmount, he changes laws multiple times a year now!

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Well he is out now but the new guy is pretty much the same.

  • @jimmylemley3121
    @jimmylemley3121 25 днів тому +1

    Players will have to go and study before playing all the stupid laws

  • @Woooofit
    @Woooofit 27 днів тому +1

    TMO is stupid ruling. He should suggest not command

  • @Unkownktm
    @Unkownktm 26 днів тому +1

    One way to get fans to lose interest and start supporting other sports like rugby league

  • @nic0072
    @nic0072 27 днів тому +1

    Timing is also BS, just stop the clock.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      You'd think it was obvious!

    • @nic0072
      @nic0072 27 днів тому

      @@frontrowrugby Yes and if it is a penalty kick at goal, stop the clock and start the clock again as soon as the player advances to kick the ball.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      @nic0072 Nice idea!

  • @pheasantplucker6117
    @pheasantplucker6117 27 днів тому

    Give the scrumhalf more time . Dont make me laugh. More time to box kick you mean. Ban the caterpillar too.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Yes the caterpillar has already been banned.

  • @carelburger3577
    @carelburger3577 27 днів тому +1

    World rugby is sick and should stop
    Rugby is no more rugby

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому

      Hardly anyone knows what's going on anymore.

  • @koosvandermerwe8298
    @koosvandermerwe8298 26 днів тому +1

    Rugby must be the only sport where new rules are added every year. Too many rules already. Rugby lost the plot.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому

      I agree, Koos. I genuinely think most fans don't know what's going on anymore.

  • @PaulCarew-j9j
    @PaulCarew-j9j 20 днів тому

    Aah! Shame, the Boks have won back to back World Cups, the last of which was decided in their last 3 games by some very dodgy decisions and they are still complaining.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  20 днів тому

      I'm not really sure this is an example of complaining ... but thank you in any case for watching my video and leaving a comment. Appreciate it.

  • @pheasantplucker6117
    @pheasantplucker6117 27 днів тому +1

    Not again

  • @roykroeger4213
    @roykroeger4213 27 днів тому +2

    too many breaks for self-promotion...didn't finish watching

  • @migyman321
    @migyman321 27 днів тому +1

    These are my proposed laws. Of course some will disagree:
    - there should be more than 8 players on the bench
    - you can’t choose a scrum from a penalty
    - players can charge scrum half as soon as he picks the ball up and not touch it
    - each half should be 45 minutes long
    - if a player gets a yellow card they should still be on the field and if they get another yellow they go off for the entire match
    - head on head contact if no mitigating factors should be a red and the player should go off the entire match, but if there are mitigating factors the player should go off for 20 minutes
    - teams are not allowed to bring on more than 2 players at a time unless there’s a freak incident where more than 2 players get injured at once

    • @nicholasdejager9
      @nicholasdejager9 27 днів тому +2

      it's good you aren't at world rugby, all of these are terrible

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      Not sure I agree with all of those but cheers for taking the time to leave a comment. Appreciate you engaging.

    • @migyman321
      @migyman321 27 днів тому

      @@nicholasdejager9 how is it bad having more than 8 players on the bench?

    • @migyman321
      @migyman321 27 днів тому

      @@nicholasdejager9 also how is 45 minutes a half bad. Means more rugby

    • @nicholasdejager9
      @nicholasdejager9 27 днів тому

      @ look on the impact to the players, the bench and the tactics. 80 to 90 is a big difference, where rugby is more tiring than football due to the physical exertions. A rugby game is already a long spectacle, the timings would need to be altered and it would have impacts on planning… just for you to watch 5 min extra a half where ball in play will probably be max 2 min anyway. (Keep in mind rugby is played in the red minutes and is on average an extra 5 min, this is one of spectacles of rugby in those dying minutes. Crap argument, with little benefit but a bigger impact. Does that make sense to you?

  • @hannessmit7886
    @hannessmit7886 25 днів тому +1

    The word is crying about springboks why i do not know the rest of the rugby world can do the same as Rassie but they do not think of it now that rassie do it and we became the best in the world they crying but they must rember one of these days not long from now we going to loose alot of our games then who going to cry then come on people we all now ruby is atuff game dont be like babies🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  25 днів тому

      You are quite right, Hannes. Nothing stops them from doing the same.

  • @superjaseZA
    @superjaseZA 26 днів тому +1

    i love the TMO powers being increased. the evidence needs to be clear, though, and the editing and presentation to the on-field ref should be tight and concise. nothing worse than seing a "try" scored and then after the fact the footage showing a clear (note: CLEAR) infringement in the buildup to the try.
    also, this is a complaining video. he keeps having a go at world rugby (not that i agree with them), yet he is okay or happy with just about everything he discusses here. he is pandering to fanbois.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  26 днів тому +1

      Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. Appreciate it. I don't think this is a complaining video. I always try to be as fair as I possibly can be but you also need to understand my audience is Springbok supporters. Everything I discuss in my videos will be tailored to my audience.

    • @superjaseZA
      @superjaseZA 18 днів тому +1

      @@frontrowrugby fair enough ;)
      just have a think about some of the tone, which comes across as being very critical of WR, while the actual content is actually quite supportive of the decisions outlined in the video. keep up the good work.
      let's see your channel grow. we need a ZA eggchasers :P

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  18 днів тому +1

      @@superjaseZA Cheers my man! Appreciate the support and the encouragement.
      Truth is whatever I do it'll never please everybody but I'll always try to remain consistent.
      Eggchasers is the standard. I think he averages 32k views per video. I currently average around 4k views per video.
      Would love to get to that level!

  • @chrismia2402
    @chrismia2402 24 дні тому +1

    WR are ruining the game, it’s become a boring sport to watch.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  24 дні тому

      They are so stuck in their ways but also have no clue what the fans want.

  • @andrejacobs5199
    @andrejacobs5199 25 днів тому +1

    Please stop playing background music in your videos. It's very irritating - just speak your speak. Thank you

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  25 днів тому

      Cheers Andre. It's gone! I tried it out for a couple of videos and the feedback has been pretty much exactly what you've said here. I listen to my audience! No more music.

  • @Wolf-hh4rv
    @Wolf-hh4rv 27 днів тому

    Carding tacklers is destroying the game. Let’s get rid of WR. If want to watch basketball, go watch it.

  • @georgefrederikoosthuizen891
    @georgefrederikoosthuizen891 27 днів тому

    So sick off it and how no one do anuthing about wr killing rugby.

  • @cobusdejongh1632
    @cobusdejongh1632 26 днів тому +1

    Nes die F1 Bestuur. So gou soos iemand goed raak moet hy level gemaak word. Wat ń skande.

  • @Dalf80s
    @Dalf80s 27 днів тому +1

    Rugby is becoming un watchable.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  27 днів тому +1

      Because of all these law changes I really believe the average fan doesn't know what's going on anymore.

    • @Dalf80s
      @Dalf80s 27 днів тому +1

      @frontrowrugby you'll get a red card if you bad eye the ref these days. Irs getting to soft. If you serious try to go for an intercept and knock the ball forward a yellow is giving. If you compete in the air for a uppie there is a chance that one of the players will get a yellow review. If you are trying to tackle a player and already in a low position and the player ducks lower and the tackle clash with his head it's a yellow review. Its nonsense, it rugby, it's a hard game and the law makers arw probably woke binaries...

  • @ramonlebrasse1944
    @ramonlebrasse1944 27 днів тому

    The Springboks rock... rest of the world are whingers.

  • @jimmylemley3121
    @jimmylemley3121 25 днів тому +1

    Maybe change the name it's not rugby anymore,far from when I played in the 60s and 70s