For years, I avoided buying an SKX. It was easy to understand it’s uniqueness in terms of design and specs for the money, but i felt it would be a letdown given all the hype around it. When I finally picked one up this year, I realized how satisfying it actually is to wear. It’s an icon for $200-ish, and the well-known “flaws” like the non-hacking, non-handwinding movement gives you fun ways of interacting with the watch, such as the “Seiko shuffle” or reversing the crown to hold back the second hand until it’s bang-on with the atomic clock. The small details like the way the case flows and the wave engraving on the caseback make it a pleasure to behold from any angle. It’s the watch that I wear in the most carefree and non-self-conscious way compared to anything else in my collection. All this to say, I am not the least bit surprised to hear you made the same choice. Great video, and wonderful story-telling, as always!
Thank you very much! I was an early adopter of the youtube SKX, I let it go after a few months, but now I will always have one in my collection, It's a cool, classic diver to have! All the best, Andrei
You buy on hype, you see prices falling down, you sell afraid of loosing money. Then make a stupid movie , throw Rolex in the title to get some views. Social media watch community in a nutshell.
Yes! You are now my favorite channel on UA-cam. Not being pressured by social pressure. Just collect what you like. Yes, acknowledge pieces but don't feel obligated to get these internet trophies. I'm so happy with my humble budget collection. You just confirmed it for me, thank you!
I knew from the comment that you were broke and trying to find solace from this dude, just do your broke self and stop trying to find satisfaction for being broke!!
@@duffydon1741 I don't know what you consider broke? My reason for not wearing Rolex is that I can't stomach myself wearing something worth more than my Honda. I'd be paranoid to get scratches, dings, while I wear my seikos, gshocks, without worry. I wear them with pride. They're enough to give me self satisfaction. Not participating in this race. Could I afford a Rolex? Not at the moment, did I try to strive to own one? Yes. Just like everyone. if that makes me broke, ok. I have other things to focus on financially. Everyone has their own priorities and hobbies, if trolling others is yours and brings your joy, good for you. I just wanted to comment on this channel to show love and support. You deserve so many more subs and viewers. Great content.
I bought my SKX007 11 years ago and it still gets the most wrist time. The jubilee bracelet is the most comfortable I’ve worn. I recently sold my Submariner 14060 and a Datejust41. Something about Rolex isn’t doing it for me anymore. However, I did keep my Polar 16570 but still, the SKX on jubilee gets 98% of my wrist time. I think I’m done collecting. SKX was a good entry point and it might as well be an exit point.
Good for you! I bought a current model, new Submariner in February and I’ve been thinking about selling it. Rolex has ruined the thrill for me of owning a Rolex. Owning a watch should bring joy, not embarrassment. Maybe I’ll join you in freedom soon brother.
I'm going through the same thing, I have a couple but don't really like wearing my submariner. Not that I'm afraid of scratching it, or that, or whatever - just don't like the association. Been considering selling it but not sure if I'll get sellers remorse.
Man this video is everything I think and feel about my collecting experience! You hit every single point that was and is turning around my mind for the last year. Thank you very much for this amazing storytelling video!
Awesome video Andrei! I think the SKX is on of the most iconic watches of all times. I don't have one yet, but I completely understand why everyone loves them so much! To me the Seiko (SRPE93J1) turtle is the perfect dive watch. It has been glued on my wrist for 187 days now and I love everything about it. An example that shows that great watches don't have to be expensive. Enjoy your SKX buddy!🔥🇯🇵
Great take! I love my SKX007 from the birth year 1996. Patina'd and beautiful. My new favorite watch is the Seiko Dark Manta Ray King Turtle. Most beautiful dial i have personally experienced. Love this hobby and its ever-changing moods, as you so eloquently described.
Bought an SKX007 in 2018 as my first automatic, been with me on many adventures in that time! Had on on the rubber strap until I wanted to switch it up and got the jingle-jangle Seiko OEM Jubilee, and honestly, I love it. It does its job with nothing superfluous at all, not even hacking. To me the SKX is the epitome of "good enough" for practically everything. It's not perfect, but neither are it's wearers, and it'll never let you down, be out of place, or get you mugged. Rolex is the status symbol of the watch world, but the SKX is the passion symbol. You can't be a watch enthusiast and not have a soft spot for the SKX. It is in every way possible, an icon.
Congratulations on acquiring a true gem piece! I personally believe, even if it’s not the best, the SKX007 is one of the most beautiful dive watches ever built. I realized its beauty and legacy too late and so bought it aftermarket from an Ebay seller at a Scalped price but I don’t regret even a little bit. This is the only watch in my collection that I paid more than the original price because it’s just too damn gorgeous and a Seiko masterpiece from that time it was originally produced. Also, I don’t know how you do it in every videos, but your camera work is just absolutely spectacular and amazing to look at. I really enjoy all your content.
Just when I thought I was ready to let go of my SKX007. I haven’t worn it much over the last year, and I didn’t think it was worth keeping in the collection any longer. This video completely reminded me of why I loved it so much in the first place. I guess it’s staying…for now. Fantastic video!
@@abualazka6047 It’ll stay for now. I just have a hard time keeping watches I don’t wear. I feel like someone else may enjoy wearing it, and I’m not just keeping it for the sake of keeping it.
Thanks for this video! This actually took away some anxiety that I had about wanting to buy a watch that’s ridiculously priced! I have several affordable Swiss watches that I’m completely comfortable with. It puts knots in my stomach when I think that I must have a Rolex or Omega even.
Can I just say that your product photography/videography (for want of a better phrase) is seriously impressive and on point. Much like the channel as a whole really.
Interesting perspective! I am an enthusiast, but I am a Navy Submariner of nearly 30 years, and I have always wanted a Rolex submariner because of the association. I hope to one day acquire one!
I really enjoyed the video - It's great to have this positive impact from you (sometimes I feel overwhelmed with the whole watch-collecting hobby to be honest). It's nice that you can be in the moment and enjoy what you have instead of chasing(which is what I struggle with.)
It's a struggle here as well! I always end up with a lot of watches. But at least, Now I started to filter them better and I am more satisfied with the purchases. Cheers, Christopher! :)
I started 34 years ago with seiko and have been around the block with many watches in many price tiers. Seiko has and always remain in my interest and collection.
Great video and commentary. I had probably 15-17 watches that could be considered Submariner homages are deeply inspired by... I finally decided to pull the trigger on investing that much into one watch. The Sub was amazing to obtain, and it felt great to do it. It quickly faded away and I realized that I could live without it. I let it go and I still have 150+ watches in my collection. I also let go an Omega Aqua Terra because I had two Alpina Aplpiner Quartz watches that filled that feel on my wrist at a ridiculous fraction of the cost. No one sees my collection outside of my family. With increasing thefts of Rolex watches in the states as well, it was great to let it go.
For those that don't want to spend the money on the real thing, my recommendation is the Cronos homage. They have a date and no date version of the watch with a choice of movements. The watch, bracelet and clasp are about as close to the real thing as you can get for a fraction of the cost.
Best thing about the SKX. They can be serviced and rebuilt forever. There are so many 7s26 parts. As well as Dials , crystals and Bezels inserts can be swapped if u damage it. The case is a tank. You would have to drive over it with an 18 wheeler to damage the case.
this channel is truly a gem. for someone who is starting a collection, your perspective is a constant reminder that I should enjoy the process and not be affected by the hype and what the market dictates. also, your writing is superb. I wonder what you do for a living. more power!
Great decision my friend. I recently sold my OP for a good price. So now I've turned my attention fully to Certina and Seiko's SKX range. I have the beautiful DS Super PH 500M (orange dial of course) and original 009, 007 and my favourite 011. They're all on original Seiko jubilee bracelets. I'm just waiting on a reasonably priced 013 to round out the collection. You just can't go wrong with an SXK. I acquired the 009 when they first came out in '85 and it's still going strong. The other two last year. The 011 is a JDM model. And for once, no alignment issues with any of them. I deem myself very fortunate indeed. Take care my friend. I look forward to seeing what Seiko you get next.
I gave mine away years ago, as i moved on to Oris Aquila, which was the diver for me. Completely agree with your sentiment, watch collection is a very personal thing- it is a journey and watches have their place, once you move on you remove any watch that doesn’t do it for you. Great video.
I agree with this viewpoint as sage wisdom! As David S. Stated earlier. I started out watch collecting many years ago with a Seiko SKX173, then the SKX007, then a turtle (all still in my possession). From there the addiction went way overboard! I realize years later, the original three Seiko watches I purchased have the most wrist time. The other contender is my Helm Vanuatu. I’ve sold all of the expenses watches that either didn’t receive wrist time due to fear of theft (I frequently travel to questionable areas), or devaluation from damage, I have found happiness going back to where it all stared! The funny thing is, I’ve received more compliments on my Seiko SKX173 than any other watch I’ve owned! Always enjoy watching your videos!
This SKX has the same value proposition as much as a Rolex Sub for a much more attainable price point. Yes, a Rolex is a great brand and so is Seiko and I'm glad both of these exist even though I don't have a Rolex but an SNKK that I purchased back in April this year. I'm planning to build my collection but I intend to take my time with it. Well done with your presentation it is much appreciated.
When I started with watches in 2018 I directly fell in love with the SKX007 and I was hesitating to pay such a huge amount on a watch. But after owning it it grew on me so quickly, that I ordered the SKX009 as well and still today I wear both watches regularly. My collection has pieces all well under 2.000,- Dollar/Euro, Hamilton Cooper, Stowa Flieger, Sinn 556 on the H-Link which I all love, but nothing gets me the excitement like my SKXs. Especially that you can wear them wherever you are and collect great memories with them as they fly under the radar but still look cool as F***! Love your Video and presentation and maybe one day, I will be able to sell as well a Rolex to enjoy my SKX more 🙂
I love my SKX007. I even prefer the non hacking and non handwinding "feature" on the 7S26 to the newer movements. I have less pressure to time it to the exact second and it is less wear and tear on the keyless works. The only thing I will change sometime is replacing the hardlex with a sapphire.
Your videos are visually spot on, your contents make you think and you’re absolutely correct about the watch collecting journey and the Rolex part. I know a couple of AD who are tired of selling them as they have become the VW of watchmaking. Everyone wears one these days. Boring. Went to a dinner the other night and we were 6 people, 5 of them wore a submariner. True story. Choose what you like, buy what you adore to wear on the wrist and stop buying into the hype of these brands who every week come up with a new model and another “made up history” about the watch …. We need to move away from this as it is turning the beautiful art of watchmaking into a mass producing consumers addiction. Here is another thought for you. I have learned recently that the watch collecting journey is the yellow brick road that never gets to Oz in the end. Been on this one for years and have recently come to the realization that there is no end to it. Also not sure anymore whether to call it "watch collecting" or "OCD" or "obsession" or "passion" or "hobby" anymore. I form part of a group of people that love watches and some say the perfect number to have is 10, others say 6 and others say 3 Eventhough some out there have over 1000 pieces. Where does it end? What is enough? What is that holy grail watch and does it actually exist? Or is it a moving target? Is it real or is it what the marketing companies try to sell us .... And more importantly of all ..... how many wrists do we actually have ?? | look at a lot of these brands recently and they just all copy each other so they can sell what is popular... .. The "accountants" now run these groups and each year they sell less, yet 3 to 4 times a year they just up the prices to match the yearly PnL's for the shareholders. Not sure which direction the industry is going in ... Is it still about watch making and the art of ?? Or has it turned into something else .... ? Many questions come to mind. Anyway , keep up these great videos. We love them. And congrats on the step forwards with your latest action and decisions. Great to see. Well done !
Thank you kindly for the great videos and insightful commentary. The SKX is a true icon and deserves a prominent place in Seiko's history for sure. I feel that, for my own collecting journey anyway, it all comes back to where I'm most happy. Happy in terms of value, lifestyle fit, and "feeling' of a watch. For me that's Casio and Omega. Though if the right SKX 013 came along it might be hard to say no... So, where do you go from the Sub? Wherever feel right to you :-)
I've always liked the SKX 007 look. I had a quartz version blue dial with blue and red bezel insert back in the 70s, 80s. What I don't like is the big 42mm, thick case and the minute markers on the insert beyond 15 minutes.
@ 4:15 what a beautifull tribute to unalighned bezel of one SKX007. I love the fact that Seiko never try to correct mistake, maybe it's not a mistake but rather charm when you consider that J and K models are same in that regard. By the way I wear my SKX007 exclusivly, there is no need for other watches and brands. Only watch that can go head-to-head with it is a Citizen NY0040.
Definitively the SKX...but considering the NH35 caliber, you can go to an older brand than Rolex which is Invicta with its Pro-Diver (yes...the hated homage Invicta), the Seiko King Turtle SRPE05K1 with a 4R36 caliber, The Seiko Samurai G,uanqin GJ16133 with Seiko NH35, or any Pagani with the same Seiko Caliber. But also you can switch to probably the best sub watches ever made due to their back cover locking patent...the Vostock Amphibia VDV420288, Vostock Neptune 170G01or the Vostock Amphibia 13025A.
All mentioned, solid watches, but still. I would keep the SKX with the standard movement, I think the imperfections of it, makes it more appealing! Cheers!
Lol… I did the opposite. After purchasing and trying hundreds of watches and the trying to find alternatives to Rolex that I’m as fond of, I decided to primarily just collect Rolex and I’ve never looked back. Cheers
My SKX was purchased for $180 from Long Island Watch and it was my first nice mechanical watch. It is ISO certification, 200m, screw down crown, has a beautiful engraved case back with The Great Wave of Kanagawa. Newer 5kx replaces that special case back with a piece of glass. I also love the jingly jangle super comfy bracelet that has made the skx loved by so many collectors. As to the 7s26 movement. So the newer ones hacks. Question is why would you ever need hacking on a highly inaccurate movement? Hate to break it to you but neither the 4R series nor 7S26 are accurate movements. So hacking is a moot point. Then there is the lack of hard winding feature of the movement. Do you feel that having to wind the movement 30 times is faster than shaking the watch 3 times to get the 7S26 movement with the “magic lever” started is easier ? Yes the newer watches may be prettier but so much has been lost.
I have never sold a watch I owned (that's why I have 89 now). I can't just get rid of a watch I researched, wanted and loved. It goes back in the box and one day it will come back to light. I have one daily driver (actually every other day). It's an Oceanus watch, but I wear a different one every other day and I love it :). Selling your beloved watch to get the next grail is a rabbit hole. Wait till you have enough money to get your grail and you won't feel the need to buy a new one every week. The moment you get the Rolex, you will "need" the Patek, then the Tank, then the Panerai. It will never stop, unless you stop selling. Later edit to answer your last question: I have the SKX007 and the Casio Duro as my diver watches. I rarely even swim, so don't need a Rolex for some family time in the pool, or on the beach.
Juat so happy its not a silly priced Seiko ,thank you for sharing your wise decision !Glashutte is also a great choice, IMO, so expensive( for me), but at least its interesting, high quality, good services and opulent, without being gaudy !
Thank you for this video, I think this video clearly show us why do we watch geek truly love horology in the first place. I believe this is one the main point that all collector been chasing and dreaming. The watch that will suite you, not for flexing, not for social acceptance, or sometimes not even in high market value. It's just you and your watch that made for your wrist!!!
I bought back my first watch, F91w and for 2 years it's been a joy to wear it. This was a great video, and you should probably go with the watch that is obtainable by your audience. You were taking shots at Glashutte... yeah... not a fan. Oh and yes, this was a good move. Brave even.
Just watched your video about which of the three to sell and followed with this one. I'm trying to make a similar decision, mostly trying to convince myself to sell my sub - I just never reach for it. My explorer is so comfortable and under the radar so leaving towards keeping that. Like the videos - cheers
Great video there so many seiko skx watches out there at different prices to suit all budgets I suppose its hard to choose .I've got 2 seiko 5 watches one I've had 16 years and never had a problem with it
It's interesting to watch this. I had a couple of rolexes 2 years ago including the sub and when I got rid of it I made sure I remembered why. For me while I like the watch itself I didn't want to be connected to what the brand was becoming nor the image of the sub, I just don't care for it. The more glances I got the more I resented rolex for having such a popular watch that I happened to like. Having bought more watches for my collection, it was time for them to go. They went within a week of each other and I've been 'clean' ever since.
You've come full circle! This is interesting because so many enthusiasts that aspire to the sub have an SKX! I have had SKX007, SKX173 and SKX175 but have moved on. I still aspire to a 16610 which is for me a grail watch but for now I'm just enjoying the ride and am wearing a Squale Y1545 Militaire which is a great watch. I love the 40mm case, the lightly domed sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel. Downsides? The fauxtina isn't for everyone and while the lume lasts all night it's pretty dim, the matte dial is quite subdued and the font used on the date wheel is too small and thin to easily be readable with no cyclops. Small gripes on a great watch that is going to stick around. Thank you for starting the conversation!
A chrono diver. The Ti Bathiscaphe. But with the 2020 bracelet if you can find that. So you're going up the scale (higher end watchmaking), side step (not just a diver, but a chrono), and a bit deeper to the roots (of diver designs/brands). Plus it's titanium and display caseback.
I never understood the appeal of the SKX’s. That was then. Eventually a good friend just sent me one, a 007. Suffice to say, after that, I understood. I’ve added a SKX 009 and this is me now trying to choose what color Seiko GMT to add now. I have never been a Rolex guy but I was and am a HUGE Omega fan. Having said that, I’ve owned, experienced, and realized, every watch can be just as enjoyable if you let yourself get out of the way of yourself. No matter $20,000 or $20. 👍
I've never handled a Rolex to know really, but they've always left me a bit cold, especially everything that surrounds the watches turns me off of them. Maybe someday I'll get a vintage one, but really, even though I'm early in my collecting journey I've already moved on to interesting vintage pieces or watches that help me express myself, not express the fact that I'm in to watches
Each to their own. I've NEVER been a Rolex fan, but do have an SKX007 and SKX009 in my collection, there's something about them that hits the mark. My favourite watch though, is one that comes with a story. I like old military field-watches and budget to send them off for a full service, new crystal and strap, case-polish etc... and end up giving something unique a whole new life!
Seiko SKX checks all the boxes that make an ideal diver watch. It just doesn't have the aesthetic perfection of Rolex and its hefty price tag, which is fine for millions of collectors worldwide. The SKX fits very well in the entry level market it was designed for. However, its discontinuation and replacement by the more expensive Seiko 5 diver style is one of Seiko's biggest blunders, in my humble opinion.
As much as I want the sub, I could never justify the price they go for now. I have been perfectly happy with my Tudor Black Bay 58. There are so many watches out there to own and enjoy. The SKX is a classic that is still a true "tool watch" (as much as I hate that term) that you can wear without worry and use for its intended purpose. The next Seiko I would like to get is the slim turtle SPB317.
the SPB317, is very captivating, I had one for a few months and I enjoyed it. design wise, although is a tonneau shape, it wears similar to a bb58! very comfy! Cheers!
I won’t sell my Sub, I stopped at the BB58 and now have a steady rotation of micros to keep me interested. Great video as always.
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You will be able to buy a new old stock skx for a few thousand in a few years... if you can find one. Nothing that came out on the market from Seiko in recent years (5kx line, Turtle, Prospex) or other models are like skx..whatever some say. It is already considered vintage since it is from 1996, but they are also rare because no one really sells the SKX007 anymore, being very collectable. It will be quite difficult to catch an unmodified skx. I personally just bought 3 new old stock from an individual who had 6 skx007, brand new, $240 each. When I called to get more... they were already sold.. 
It feels surprisingly good to let go of stuff in the collection (any collection) doesn’t it? Once we understand the subject better, and know ourselves better, we often realize our needs are much simpler and focused than we first thought in the exploration/discovery phase of the hobby.
I have had 3-4 SKX's - both 007 and the 009. Loved the looks but that movement irritated me. I didn't like the fact that I couldn't wind it... that's why I sold them. So watching your video made me go look at the second hand market here in my country. They can still be had at a reasonable price. Hmmm
I used to be a long time Seiko fan, until recently. Accuracy has gone from bad to worse, and not to mention very basic QC issues like misaligned indices and bezels. In the past, the new models like the upcoming 200m GMT automatic diver would excite me so much. Now i will ask "will it be accurate?" "will the accuracy fluctuate wildly, some days + and some days -?" "is the QC ok?" . In this time and age, a -15sec to +25sec accuracy guarantee is simply unacceptable for a $1800-$2000 mechanical watch. For the way they are positioning and pricing themselves now, they are no longer the good value, reliable, humble good friend we know. It is just living in the shadow of its past glory, turning fancy, without improvement or even drop in quality, and charging way too much for its too many "limited edition" pieces. People often talk of the Swiss pieces as overpriced. But the quality of Seiko's $800-$2000 are just shameful. If you pitch a $700 Tissot Gentleman against any of the seikos till double the price, it still has tighter built and QC, and a superior movement within. Sadly Seiko has turned into such a snobbish-anti-snob brand. It is the hipster of the watch world. Basically gave my last piece away last year.
I kinda feel like Seiko don't really care about mechanical watches they make being accurate. They introduced quartz for the world to enjoy with mind-buggling accuracy and with use of what at the time was revolutionary engineering using material science and computing power When people turned around and wanted more inaccurate mechanical watches, seiko just went: Ok. Kinda like showing off something incredible you have made, and people wanting what they already have Feel like it mirrors well in Grand Seiko too, Seiko prefer to innovate and strive for new technology. Not play with watches using the mechanics chapters of the physics book that is limited by pressure, temprature and wear that quartz watches are not. Not hating on mechanical watches, I like my mechanical watches, but I do get Seiko as well, only reason they make mechanical watches today, is because it sells and has good profit margins for them.. How I see it, its kinda like classic cars, they are not all that great, but theh are mechanical, simple, rugged and with a lot of soul. So they can't be replaced, even if there are new cars with incredible stats out there..
Mechanical movements have been around for ages. Even if Seiko is only interested in digital, there is a basic level of QC that is not only attainable, but required. Other cheaper, smaller, newer watch brands doing it better than them gives them no excuses. Nobody asked Seikos to reinvent the wheel. In terms of bread and butter movements, everybody does that, from Pateks to Rolexes to Omegas all the way down to microbrands. And these brands have innovations and a spirit of excellence to call their own. Why is Seiko not doing it? The classic car analogy could be far fetched. Because mechanical is well and alive, and remains totally relevant to all watch lovers. It is going nowhere, and right at this moment, there are new innovations being made everywhere. Today, I will buy a mechanical watch for its innovative, excellent and reliable movement. METAs and COSC certifications hold watchmakers to high standards and good brands aspire to be certified by them. They are not antiquated technology. My last purchase was an Omega. A joy to behold in both worksmanship and actual technology. Mechanical movement aside, Seiko can't even get its basic QC right. Misaligned bezels, misaligned hour markers on the dial itself, are ancient world level of quality issues. The last i checked, 6 consecutive pieces of the Sumo solar quartz GMT, selling for USD 6-700, have serious misalignments. And this was across 4 shops, in 2 different countries, over 2 months. I gave up on mechanical Seikos and wanted to get that as a fun piece, and even with such low expectations, that watch has failed. If we want to talk about innovations, i turn to my apple watch right now. If you want battery life, i just go to my solar quartz. There is nothing else Seiko needs to do right now that is more important than getting the very basics right. The very bare minimum basics, that they actually are charging audacious amounts of money for.
@John Lin Yeah, I do agree with you. I love seiko divers, I got the 38mm solar diver, and mine has no QC issues besides the beezle being around 0.1mm off if I use a glass to really get a good look. It also hits the marks to a point where I can't really see it's off at any point. But I did inspect it carefully at the AD I bought it at, and I would not order one online as I know Seiko, and I did talk them down to 440 Euros, which is 10%+ off. As their 600 asking price just make me giggle, even if its pretty much my perfect watch, I also love how it does a little under +1/month. With how I love Seiko divers, do I really want mechanical ones when I see them, but then I remember their terrible movements and I stay away. I got a newer Seiko 5 with the 4R with the day date. Stopped using it as I can't stand how it's all over the place from day to day. And I've heard the 4R tend to do better in general than the 6R. And my Seiko 5 I got for 190 USD new, The 6R ones are often 6 times that!! The 4R movement also did break on me, but Seiko did take it back, binned the movement, and slapped in a new one for free, as was under warrancy. I have a Tissot powermatic 80 PR100 watch, I got for 180 USD, and it's pretty much spot on everyday, gained a couple of seconds in a little over a week. So when it comes to mechanical watches, will I not buy any seikos, as long as they resemble anything they currently are on the movement side. I got a great experience with Miyotas, on the other hand. But I guess mechanical watches are not really that good tool anymore, as they are either way too valuable to be slapped around, too inaccurate or just the fact that they can't withstand the same beating as physics are just not on their side..
@@BraveBeatersthank you so much. Predictable choice isn't it.. my carousel took me to Speedy, IWC mark 16, Aqua Terra. All sold now and looking for simplicity
@@Tobester_McDonkey that sounds great! Yeah I've seen them on chrono24 at reduced prices, so they are unique in the current rolex market! I'll be going with the steel 36mm as it'll be my daily, so I would like something as "vanilla" as possible... just hope I manage to get the right size with the lack of micro adjust
Reference point is chrono24. Any dealer, buyer or seller is following the platform for price referenes. As other ways to underatand it's value is to put it in watch groups at some specific prices and test the waters.
Excellent clip my man. Agree or disagree, it's an interesting take. I own a couple of Rolex (gold mid 50's oyster and a 2003 Submariner)...and a couple of Seikos (Mini Turtle and an MM200). I've never considered selling the Rolex's since frankly, you sell 'em, the money disappears and then, well, hey-ho. No money and no watches! I've done it before, selling some 80 pieces in 2008 but am now back up to about 35. It's a sickness that never leaves you ;) But I sure get the idea of selling everything and going with one or two less expensive 'classics'...
I am thinking and I remember when I got aware that I'm gone become a Rolex owner. It was a moment when I've decided that I can afford and I'm willing to pay. The deciding factor was my watchmaker when he told me that from his perspective Rolex has before everything else very good movements. That's how I bought an Explorer from 2010 the one with short hands. I'm very happy with my watch and I'm wearing it every where I go. It's not my only watch but it's the best I own. I don't have an SKX but I have an NY0040.
have you thought about a Seiko LX piece? for instance a SNR031 with spring drive and 300m water resist. It's gorgeous live and it's a beautiful titanium piece, extremely well done (granted it's a bit on the chunky side for some).
Can we talk about the Citizen Promaster NY0040? I have the 17LE version (blue dial) and am thinking I actually prefer the Promaster NY0040 to the SKX.... You've talked about Citizen before (props to you Andrei) but I think the Promaster NY0040 deserves more love. They can still be found for bargain prices too, I got mine from ebay a few weeks back for $100.
So watches have come and gone but never my SKX007, nor my SARB017, nor my Casio G Shock DW 5600. Icons I suppose and there is a reason for that which is hard to explain. My latest , my blue Certina DS Action Diver may also be forever. It is just so captivating. There is a Rolex vibe there but more attractive somehow. But it scares me, why does it keep to 1 second a day. It shouldn’t do that. What’s going on?
all 3, true classics!! which can represent the base of any solid collection! There is a bit of Rolex vibe, on the Action diver true. As for the accuracy, I'd say is very good :D
Spot on for sure. Thanks! What is the real difference between your favorite shirt and and your watch? In time you will change your preference. A new shirt or a new watch is a way of progress. Now I have a Seiko 7c43-7000 Kanji. 🇯🇵🌊
It’s my first “real” watch and second day of owning the SKX007J. I decided to pay more for the Japan made model in mint condition as a gift to myself for graduating with my masters in December and a momento of simpler times (90s) baby. I cannot say enough about how good I feel on the purchase and hope to have this watch a very long time. Get one while you can.
I also own SKX 007 ..quality is good , almost 10 years I've been wearing it,, only once having it service..up until now, still clicking to do its job, telling accurate time..
Hi Andrei sure i have both the SKX 007 & 009 the Juibilee 22mm strap looks fab i have no intentions of letting them go from my collection they are both icons cool looking timeless pieces.
Related to this type of diver watches, and you reviewing a lot of Certinas, will you review this very nice looking new Certina black diver soon? All the best!
Great story telling again Andrei! Happy to hear you say replacement instead of alternative for the rolex Sub. Try something from a "big brand" you haven't owned before. With the funds out of the Explorer 2 and Submariner, you could even reach for some of the brands the next level up. A nice Patek Aquanaut of Nautilus perhaps..
I choose the Seiko SKX007, Seiko SARB033 and a Casio A168WG for my cheap three watch collection. Of course I still love looking at other people’s watches but I feel like it don’t miss anything. Also, I like playing around with different bracelets for those watches, which can make a huge difference.
To be the SKX is the budget Submariner. It doesn't have the finishing or quality or high end brand, but it dresses up and down just like the Submariner and holds a similar style.
My replacement for my ProSpex Seikos was an SKX. I love the look. I love the wear. I love the size. I love not hacking/setting it. I loved it so much, I bought a second one/ They are all I wear now.
Good for you….I agree 100%…it all about the experience of ownership….nothing can erase your joy and memories of past watches. When you find that you’re not wearing them, it’s time to let them go and get something else that you will wear…unless you’re one of those people who have the ability to hoard a huge collection of watches that spend all their time in a box inside a safe. Nothing wrong with that, but for me personally, watches should be worn.
The skx013 makes sense.. I agree and bought the skx too and I am happy with the purchase.. it gives me very strong japanese vibes and wont compete too hard with my 114270
For years, I avoided buying an SKX. It was easy to understand it’s uniqueness in terms of design and specs for the money, but i felt it would be a letdown given all the hype around it. When I finally picked one up this year, I realized how satisfying it actually is to wear. It’s an icon for $200-ish, and the well-known “flaws” like the non-hacking, non-handwinding movement gives you fun ways of interacting with the watch, such as the “Seiko shuffle” or reversing the crown to hold back the second hand until it’s bang-on with the atomic clock. The small details like the way the case flows and the wave engraving on the caseback make it a pleasure to behold from any angle. It’s the watch that I wear in the most carefree and non-self-conscious way compared to anything else in my collection. All this to say, I am not the least bit surprised to hear you made the same choice. Great video, and wonderful story-telling, as always!
+1 :))) For years I said the SKX was overrated, but last month I bought one SKX009. And I saw that this watch deserves all the praise
Thank you very much! I was an early adopter of the youtube SKX, I let it go after a few months, but now I will always have one in my collection, It's a cool, classic diver to have! All the best,
Andrei
I need a 009 as well, now I see it more appealing than the 007 :p. Congrats!
i have both 009 and 007. What else one needs for a watch?
@@Ktc99999-bTravis,how do they compare? I only have 007.
You Conquer, You Understand, You Move One. Well Said.
Veni, vidi, vici ;)
You buy on hype, you see prices falling down, you sell afraid of loosing money. Then make a stupid movie , throw Rolex in the title to get some views. Social media watch community in a nutshell.
Yes! You are now my favorite channel on UA-cam. Not being pressured by social pressure. Just collect what you like. Yes, acknowledge pieces but don't feel obligated to get these internet trophies. I'm so happy with my humble budget collection. You just confirmed it for me, thank you!
I knew from the comment that you were broke and trying to find solace from this dude, just do your broke self and stop trying to find satisfaction for being broke!!
@@duffydon1741 I don't know what you consider broke? My reason for not wearing Rolex is that I can't stomach myself wearing something worth more than my Honda. I'd be paranoid to get scratches, dings, while I wear my seikos, gshocks, without worry. I wear them with pride. They're enough to give me self satisfaction. Not participating in this race. Could I afford a Rolex? Not at the moment, did I try to strive to own one? Yes. Just like everyone. if that makes me broke, ok. I have other things to focus on financially. Everyone has their own priorities and hobbies, if trolling others is yours and brings your joy, good for you.
I just wanted to comment on this channel to show love and support. You deserve so many more subs and viewers. Great content.
What social pressure are you getting? Nobody even knows that you exist. Lol...
Haha. Cheers! :) Well said, Internet trophy! I should use this line when I talk about the crown, next time! Stay safe! :)
@@duffydon1741 LOL
I bought my SKX007 11 years ago and it still gets the most wrist time. The jubilee bracelet is the most comfortable I’ve worn. I recently sold my Submariner 14060 and a Datejust41. Something about Rolex isn’t doing it for me anymore. However, I did keep my Polar 16570 but still, the SKX on jubilee gets 98% of my wrist time. I think I’m done collecting. SKX was a good entry point and it might as well be an exit point.
Nice!
Super cool story! the Polar 16570 is a true classic, you are lucky! :) I should wear more often the 007 on the jubilee. Cheers David!
the skx dial is clearer than the subs.
@@Ktc99999-breally!!?? Sorry to keep bugging you.
love this.
Good for you! I bought a current model, new Submariner in February and I’ve been thinking about selling it. Rolex has ruined the thrill for me of owning a Rolex. Owning a watch should bring joy, not embarrassment. Maybe I’ll join you in freedom soon brother.
I'm going through the same thing, I have a couple but don't really like wearing my submariner. Not that I'm afraid of scratching it, or that, or whatever - just don't like the association. Been considering selling it but not sure if I'll get sellers remorse.
@@nash9625 I feel the same way, i want to sell it but I'm afraid of regretting it
@tizombie
I could only dream of owning a Sub. But what do you mean by embarassment of owning it?
Man this video is everything I think and feel about my collecting experience! You hit every single point that was and is turning around my mind for the last year. Thank you very much for this amazing storytelling video!
Awesome video Andrei! I think the SKX is on of the most iconic watches of all times. I don't have one yet, but I completely understand why everyone loves them so much! To me the Seiko (SRPE93J1) turtle is the perfect dive watch. It has been glued on my wrist for 187 days now and I love everything about it. An example that shows that great watches don't have to be expensive. Enjoy your SKX buddy!🔥🇯🇵
Great take! I love my SKX007 from the birth year 1996. Patina'd and beautiful. My new favorite watch is the Seiko Dark Manta Ray King Turtle. Most beautiful dial i have personally experienced. Love this hobby and its ever-changing moods, as you so eloquently described.
Great video. Had my skx for 2 years now and I'm glad to say I enjoy wearing it every single day.
Haha, enjoy it! Solid solid piece! :)
Bought an SKX007 in 2018 as my first automatic, been with me on many adventures in that time! Had on on the rubber strap until I wanted to switch it up and got the jingle-jangle Seiko OEM Jubilee, and honestly, I love it.
It does its job with nothing superfluous at all, not even hacking. To me the SKX is the epitome of "good enough" for practically everything. It's not perfect, but neither are it's wearers, and it'll never let you down, be out of place, or get you mugged.
Rolex is the status symbol of the watch world, but the SKX is the passion symbol.
You can't be a watch enthusiast and not have a soft spot for the SKX. It is in every way possible, an icon.
Congratulations on acquiring a true gem piece! I personally believe, even if it’s not the best, the SKX007 is one of the most beautiful dive watches ever built. I realized its beauty and legacy too late and so bought it aftermarket from an Ebay seller at a Scalped price but I don’t regret even a little bit. This is the only watch in my collection that I paid more than the original price because it’s just too damn gorgeous and a Seiko masterpiece from that time it was originally produced. Also, I don’t know how you do it in every videos, but your camera work is just absolutely spectacular and amazing to look at. I really enjoy all your content.
Just when I thought I was ready to let go of my SKX007. I haven’t worn it much over the last year, and I didn’t think it was worth keeping in the collection any longer. This video completely reminded me of why I loved it so much in the first place. I guess it’s staying…for now. Fantastic video!
just keep it man
@@abualazka6047 It’ll stay for now. I just have a hard time keeping watches I don’t wear. I feel like someone else may enjoy wearing it, and I’m not just keeping it for the sake of keeping it.
Same here
Sell me your SKX007 bro
Thanks for this video! This actually took away some anxiety that I had about wanting to buy a watch that’s ridiculously priced!
I have several affordable Swiss watches that I’m completely comfortable with. It puts knots in my stomach when I think that I must have a Rolex or Omega even.
Yes! Just for that You are becoming my top 3 watch channel!!! Good for you!
Growing in popularity, I see :))
Cheers!
What are the other 2? ;)
@@ph69jbl watch finder and about effing time complete my top 3!
@@nunoandrelapa nice choices! 👍🏻
This video was beautiful, truly, on so many levels. Thank you for having produced this. Sincerely
Totally agree with you. Happened to me.
I never wore my Rolex.
I wear my Tudor or Seiko Alpinist daily and they bring me more joy.
That's the secret! I am glad you enjoy them! Cheers!
Can I just say that your product photography/videography (for want of a better phrase) is seriously impressive and on point. Much like the channel as a whole really.
Interesting perspective! I am an enthusiast, but I am a Navy Submariner of nearly 30 years, and I have always wanted a Rolex submariner because of the association. I hope to one day acquire one!
It will be worth the wait, no better watch
Now that is one of the coolest jobs from the planet!
I hope you will get the right Submariner for you!
Respect!
@@BraveBeaters much appreciated, thank you!
I really enjoyed the video - It's great to have this positive impact from you (sometimes I feel overwhelmed with the whole watch-collecting hobby to be honest). It's nice that you can be in the moment and enjoy what you have instead of chasing(which is what I struggle with.)
It's a struggle here as well!
I always end up with a lot of watches.
But at least, Now I started to filter them better and I am more satisfied with the purchases. Cheers, Christopher! :)
I started 34 years ago with seiko and have been around the block with many watches in many price tiers. Seiko has and always remain in my interest and collection.
Seiko rulz…
They used to be,a lot of their newer stuff isn’t as good and a lot more expensive
Great video and commentary. I had probably 15-17 watches that could be considered Submariner homages are deeply inspired by... I finally decided to pull the trigger on investing that much into one watch. The Sub was amazing to obtain, and it felt great to do it. It quickly faded away and I realized that I could live without it. I let it go and I still have 150+ watches in my collection.
I also let go an Omega Aqua Terra because I had two Alpina Aplpiner Quartz watches that filled that feel on my wrist at a ridiculous fraction of the cost.
No one sees my collection outside of my family. With increasing thefts of Rolex watches in the states as well, it was great to let it go.
Nice story, Kyle! Exactly, it matters more what brings you joy! If the sub doesen't do it. Let it fly :)
Cheers!
For those that don't want to spend the money on the real thing, my recommendation is the Cronos homage. They have a date and no date version of the watch with a choice of movements. The watch, bracelet and clasp are about as close to the real thing as you can get for a fraction of the cost.
Best thing about the SKX. They can be serviced and rebuilt forever. There are so many 7s26 parts. As well as Dials , crystals and Bezels inserts can be swapped if u damage it. The case is a tank. You would have to drive over it with an 18 wheeler to damage the case.
this channel is truly a gem. for someone who is starting a collection, your perspective is a constant reminder that I should enjoy the process and not be affected by the hype and what the market dictates. also, your writing is superb. I wonder what you do for a living. more power!
Great decision my friend. I recently sold my OP for a good price. So now
I've turned my attention fully to Certina and Seiko's SKX range. I have the beautiful DS Super PH 500M (orange dial of course) and original 009, 007 and my favourite 011. They're all on original Seiko jubilee bracelets.
I'm just waiting on a reasonably priced 013 to round out the collection.
You just can't go wrong with an SXK.
I acquired the 009 when they first came out in '85 and it's still going strong. The other two last year. The 011 is a JDM model. And for once, no alignment issues with any of them. I deem myself very fortunate indeed.
Take care my friend. I look forward to seeing what Seiko you get next.
I gave mine away years ago, as i moved on to Oris Aquila, which was the diver for me.
Completely agree with your sentiment, watch collection is a very personal thing- it is a journey and watches have their place, once you move on you remove any watch that doesn’t do it for you.
Great video.
That's the most important thing, to be satisfied with the choice made! Cheers!
I agree with this viewpoint as sage wisdom! As David S. Stated earlier. I started out watch collecting many years ago with a Seiko SKX173, then the SKX007, then a turtle (all still in my possession). From there the addiction went way overboard! I realize years later, the original three Seiko watches I purchased have the most wrist time. The other contender is my Helm Vanuatu. I’ve sold all of the expenses watches that either didn’t receive wrist time due to fear of theft (I frequently travel to questionable areas), or devaluation from damage, I have found happiness going back to where it all stared! The funny thing is, I’ve received more compliments on my Seiko SKX173 than any other watch I’ve owned! Always enjoy watching your videos!
Well done! It sounds that watch maturity is working great for you. Congrats.
This SKX has the same value proposition as much as a Rolex Sub for a much more attainable price point. Yes, a Rolex is a great brand and so is Seiko and I'm glad both of these exist even though I don't have a Rolex but an SNKK that I purchased back in April this year.
I'm planning to build my collection but I intend to take my time with it. Well done with your presentation it is much appreciated.
I have two SKX 009 excellent watches, I feel better after this awesome video. Thx
When I started with watches in 2018 I directly fell in love with the SKX007 and I was hesitating to pay such a huge amount on a watch. But after owning it it grew on me so quickly, that I ordered the SKX009 as well and still today I wear both watches regularly.
My collection has pieces all well under 2.000,- Dollar/Euro, Hamilton Cooper, Stowa Flieger, Sinn 556 on the H-Link which I all love, but nothing gets me the excitement like my SKXs. Especially that you can wear them wherever you are and collect great memories with them as they fly under the radar but still look cool as F***!
Love your Video and presentation and maybe one day, I will be able to sell as well a Rolex to enjoy my SKX more 🙂
I love my SKX007. I even prefer the non hacking and non handwinding "feature" on the 7S26 to the newer movements. I have less pressure to time it to the exact second and it is less wear and tear on the keyless works. The only thing I will change sometime is replacing the hardlex with a sapphire.
Your videos are visually spot on, your contents make you think and you’re absolutely correct about the watch collecting journey and the Rolex part. I know a couple of AD who are tired of selling them as they have become the VW of watchmaking. Everyone wears one these days. Boring. Went to a dinner the other night and we were 6 people, 5 of them wore a submariner. True story.
Choose what you like, buy what you adore to wear on the wrist and stop buying into the hype of these brands who every week come up with a new model and another “made up history” about the watch …. We need to move away from this as it is turning the beautiful art of watchmaking into a mass producing consumers addiction.
Here is another thought for you.
I have learned recently that the watch collecting journey is the yellow brick road that never gets to Oz in the end. Been on this one for years and have recently come to the realization that there is no end to it. Also not sure anymore whether to call it "watch collecting" or "OCD" or "obsession" or
"passion" or "hobby" anymore. I form part of a group of people that love watches and some say the perfect number to have is 10, others say 6 and others say 3 Eventhough some out there have over 1000 pieces. Where does it end? What is enough? What is that holy grail watch and does it actually exist? Or is it a moving target?
Is it real or is it what the marketing companies try to sell us .... And more importantly of all ..... how many wrists do we actually have ?? | look at a lot of these brands recently and they just all copy each other so they can sell what is popular...
.. The "accountants"
now run these groups and each year they sell less, yet 3 to 4 times a year they just up the prices to match the yearly PnL's for the shareholders. Not sure which direction the industry is going in ... Is it still about watch making and the art of ?? Or has it turned into something else .... ? Many questions come to mind. Anyway , keep up these great videos. We love them. And congrats on the step forwards with your latest action and decisions. Great to see. Well done !
Thank you kindly for the great videos and insightful commentary. The SKX is a true icon and deserves a prominent place in Seiko's history for sure. I feel that, for my own collecting journey anyway, it all comes back to where I'm most happy. Happy in terms of value, lifestyle fit, and "feeling' of a watch. For me that's Casio and Omega. Though if the right SKX 013 came along it might be hard to say no... So, where do you go from the Sub? Wherever feel right to you :-)
I've always liked the SKX 007 look. I had a quartz version blue dial with blue and red bezel insert back in the 70s, 80s. What I don't like is the big 42mm, thick case and the minute markers on the insert beyond 15 minutes.
FYI,it doesn’t wear nowhere near a standard 42,it’s so well balanced.
@ 4:15 what a beautifull tribute to unalighned bezel of one SKX007. I love the fact that Seiko never try to correct mistake, maybe it's not a mistake but rather charm when you consider that J and K models are same in that regard.
By the way I wear my SKX007 exclusivly, there is no need for other watches and brands. Only watch that can go head-to-head with it is a Citizen NY0040.
Definitively the SKX...but considering the NH35 caliber, you can go to an older brand than Rolex which is Invicta with its Pro-Diver (yes...the hated homage Invicta), the Seiko King Turtle SRPE05K1 with a 4R36 caliber, The Seiko Samurai G,uanqin GJ16133 with Seiko NH35, or any Pagani with the same Seiko Caliber. But also you can switch to probably the best sub watches ever made due to their back cover locking patent...the Vostock Amphibia VDV420288, Vostock Neptune 170G01or the Vostock Amphibia 13025A.
You’re saying nothing!
All mentioned, solid watches, but still. I would keep the SKX with the standard movement, I think the imperfections of it, makes it more appealing! Cheers!
@@duffydon1741 do you speak English?
Lol… I did the opposite. After purchasing and trying hundreds of watches and the trying to find alternatives to Rolex that I’m as fond of, I decided to primarily just collect Rolex and I’ve never looked back. Cheers
My SKX was purchased for $180 from Long Island Watch and it was my first nice mechanical watch. It is ISO certification, 200m, screw down crown, has a beautiful engraved case back with The Great Wave of Kanagawa. Newer 5kx replaces that special case back with a piece of glass. I also love the jingly jangle super comfy bracelet that has made the skx loved by so many collectors. As to the 7s26 movement. So the newer ones hacks. Question is why would you ever need hacking on a highly inaccurate movement? Hate to break it to you but neither the 4R series nor 7S26 are accurate movements. So hacking is a moot point. Then there is the lack of hard winding feature of the movement. Do you feel that having to wind the movement 30 times is faster than shaking the watch 3 times to get the 7S26 movement with the “magic lever” started is easier ? Yes the newer watches may be prettier but so much has been lost.
I have never sold a watch I owned (that's why I have 89 now). I can't just get rid of a watch I researched, wanted and loved. It goes back in the box and one day it will come back to light. I have one daily driver (actually every other day). It's an Oceanus watch, but I wear a different one every other day and I love it :). Selling your beloved watch to get the next grail is a rabbit hole. Wait till you have enough money to get your grail and you won't feel the need to buy a new one every week. The moment you get the Rolex, you will "need" the Patek, then the Tank, then the Panerai. It will never stop, unless you stop selling. Later edit to answer your last question: I have the SKX007 and the Casio Duro as my diver watches. I rarely even swim, so don't need a Rolex for some family time in the pool, or on the beach.
Omg! 89 :D congrats!!
You are the Brave Beater.
Follow your heart !!!
🦁 :D
Very well put. Yesterday, I had a Rolex. Tomorrow I will have a Tudor. But my SKX007J is going nowhere 😂. Congrats on your journey.
Haahahahahah! Good one!
The skx was the first watch I bought with my own money and it will never leave my collection.
Just got my yachtmaster
Both solid watches! Enjoy them!
My 007 and 009 are lovely additions to my collection. They are permanent.
An SKX 007 is super iconic watch, i love this piece with d'simply beauty dial
Juat so happy its not a silly priced Seiko ,thank you for sharing your wise decision !Glashutte is also a great choice, IMO, so expensive( for me), but at least its interesting, high quality, good services and opulent, without being gaudy !
Haha! True! :)
Thank you for this video, I think this video clearly show us why do we watch geek truly love horology in the first place. I believe this is one the main point that all collector been chasing and dreaming. The watch that will suite you, not for flexing, not for social acceptance, or sometimes not even in high market value.
It's just you and your watch that made for your wrist!!!
I bought back my first watch, F91w and for 2 years it's been a joy to wear it.
This was a great video, and you should probably go with the watch that is obtainable by your audience.
You were taking shots at Glashutte... yeah... not a fan.
Oh and yes, this was a good move. Brave even.
Great perspective. I also started w a 007 10 years ago, then a 013. They’re responsible for a generation of watch enthusiasts. 😊
Just watched your video about which of the three to sell and followed with this one. I'm trying to make a similar decision, mostly trying to convince myself to sell my sub - I just never reach for it. My explorer is so comfortable and under the radar so leaving towards keeping that. Like the videos - cheers
Wonderful story telling. Thank you. The SKX will always part of the collection.
Great video there so many seiko skx watches out there at different prices to suit all budgets I suppose its hard to choose .I've got 2 seiko 5 watches one I've had 16 years and never had a problem with it
It's interesting to watch this. I had a couple of rolexes 2 years ago including the sub and when I got rid of it I made sure I remembered why. For me while I like the watch itself I didn't want to be connected to what the brand was becoming nor the image of the sub, I just don't care for it. The more glances I got the more I resented rolex for having such a popular watch that I happened to like. Having bought more watches for my collection, it was time for them to go. They went within a week of each other and I've been 'clean' ever since.
You've come full circle! This is interesting because so many enthusiasts that aspire to the sub have an SKX! I have had SKX007, SKX173 and SKX175 but have moved on. I still aspire to a 16610 which is for me a grail watch but for now I'm just enjoying the ride and am wearing a Squale Y1545 Militaire which is a great watch. I love the 40mm case, the lightly domed sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel. Downsides? The fauxtina isn't for everyone and while the lume lasts all night it's pretty dim, the matte dial is quite subdued and the font used on the date wheel is too small and thin to easily be readable with no cyclops. Small gripes on a great watch that is going to stick around. Thank you for starting the conversation!
excellent review
Thank you!
Is that an original Seiko jubilee bracelet?
The skx is an Icon. It will not go anywhere anytime.
Totally agree, sold my last Bolex Sub 4 years ago. I now have freedom from the "common watch for the common man".
Haha! Good one!
A chrono diver. The Ti Bathiscaphe. But with the 2020 bracelet if you can find that. So you're going up the scale (higher end watchmaking), side step (not just a diver, but a chrono), and a bit deeper to the roots (of diver designs/brands). Plus it's titanium and display caseback.
I never understood the appeal of the SKX’s. That was then. Eventually a good friend just sent me one, a 007. Suffice to say, after that, I understood. I’ve added a SKX 009 and this is me now trying to choose what color Seiko GMT to add now. I have never been a Rolex guy but I was and am a HUGE Omega fan. Having said that, I’ve owned, experienced, and realized, every watch can be just as enjoyable if you let yourself get out of the way of yourself. No matter $20,000 or $20. 👍
Just got my Skx007 last week...just love it 😀
What took you so long…? :)
Haha, enjoy it!!
A bit late to the game, but better late than never. May your Skx accompany you on many of your life’s journey.
@Michael Riera is very expensive in my country. Is a SKX considered 🤔 A Vintage Diver now.? Its older than 25 years?
I've never handled a Rolex to know really, but they've always left me a bit cold, especially everything that surrounds the watches turns me off of them. Maybe someday I'll get a vintage one, but really, even though I'm early in my collecting journey I've already moved on to interesting vintage pieces or watches that help me express myself, not express the fact that I'm in to watches
Each to their own. I've NEVER been a Rolex fan, but do have an SKX007 and SKX009 in my collection, there's something about them that hits the mark.
My favourite watch though, is one that comes with a story. I like old military field-watches and budget to send them off for a full service, new crystal and strap, case-polish etc... and end up giving something unique a whole new life!
How does 007 compare with 009?I have 007 only.
Seiko SKX checks all the boxes that make an ideal diver watch. It just doesn't have the aesthetic perfection of Rolex and its hefty price tag, which is fine for millions of collectors worldwide. The SKX fits very well in the entry level market it was designed for. However, its discontinuation and replacement by the more expensive Seiko 5 diver style is one of Seiko's biggest blunders, in my humble opinion.
You’re one of my favourite channels for good reason 🙂
As much as I want the sub, I could never justify the price they go for now. I have been perfectly happy with my Tudor Black Bay 58. There are so many watches out there to own and enjoy. The SKX is a classic that is still a true "tool watch" (as much as I hate that term) that you can wear without worry and use for its intended purpose. The next Seiko I would like to get is the slim turtle SPB317.
the SPB317, is very captivating, I had one for a few months and I enjoyed it. design wise, although is a tonneau shape, it wears similar to a bb58! very comfy! Cheers!
Consider the Tortoise as well as the slim turtle. It's a lovely little watch, I preferred it.
@@wintermute8315 Not a fan of the compass bezel.
Awesome! Thank you very much Andrei🤝
Zenith has a new 37 mm reissue diver from the 70’s called the Defy. Looks pretty sweet and has a very unique case. Might be worth a look for ya.
Well said!👏
I won’t sell my Sub, I stopped at the BB58 and now have a steady rotation of micros to keep me interested. Great video as always.
You will be able to buy a new old stock skx for a few thousand in a few years... if you can find one. Nothing that came out on the market from Seiko in recent years (5kx line, Turtle, Prospex) or other models are like skx..whatever some say. It is already considered vintage since it is from 1996, but they are also rare because no one really sells the SKX007 anymore, being very collectable. It will be quite difficult to catch an unmodified skx. I personally just bought 3 new old stock from an individual who had 6 skx007, brand new, $240 each. When I called to get more... they were already sold..

Great story! Maybe I should look into an SKX aswell. Very compelling.
Skx is cool, never outdated :) Cheers!
It feels surprisingly good to let go of stuff in the collection (any collection) doesn’t it? Once we understand the subject better, and know ourselves better, we often realize our needs are much simpler and focused than we first thought in the exploration/discovery phase of the hobby.
Very nice video. I went to put my SKX169 on the wrist because of this video. It is one of the rarest from the series, superb watches.
For me Rolex Deepsea was replaced with Seiko MM300, could not be happier.
I would be happy as well with that move :D
Cheers!
I have had 3-4 SKX's - both 007 and the 009. Loved the looks but that movement irritated me. I didn't like the fact that I couldn't wind it... that's why I sold them. So watching your video made me go look at the second hand market here in my country. They can still be had at a reasonable price. Hmmm
I used to be a long time Seiko fan, until recently. Accuracy has gone from bad to worse, and not to mention very basic QC issues like misaligned indices and bezels. In the past, the new models like the upcoming 200m GMT automatic diver would excite me so much. Now i will ask "will it be accurate?" "will the accuracy fluctuate wildly, some days + and some days -?" "is the QC ok?" . In this time and age, a -15sec to +25sec accuracy guarantee is simply unacceptable for a $1800-$2000 mechanical watch.
For the way they are positioning and pricing themselves now, they are no longer the good value, reliable, humble good friend we know. It is just living in the shadow of its past glory, turning fancy, without improvement or even drop in quality, and charging way too much for its too many "limited edition" pieces.
People often talk of the Swiss pieces as overpriced. But the quality of Seiko's $800-$2000 are just shameful. If you pitch a $700 Tissot Gentleman against any of the seikos till double the price, it still has tighter built and QC, and a superior movement within.
Sadly Seiko has turned into such a snobbish-anti-snob brand.
It is the hipster of the watch world.
Basically gave my last piece away last year.
Seiko sadly Is no longer a well positioned brand, as you said, yes, they make too many Pokemon gotta catch'em all watches! :)
I kinda feel like Seiko don't really care about mechanical watches they make being accurate.
They introduced quartz for the world to enjoy with mind-buggling accuracy and with use of what at the time was revolutionary engineering using material science and computing power
When people turned around and wanted more inaccurate mechanical watches, seiko just went: Ok. Kinda like showing off something incredible you have made, and people wanting what they already have
Feel like it mirrors well in Grand Seiko too, Seiko prefer to innovate and strive for new technology. Not play with watches using the mechanics chapters of the physics book that is limited by pressure, temprature and wear that quartz watches are not.
Not hating on mechanical watches, I like my mechanical watches, but I do get Seiko as well, only reason they make mechanical watches today, is because it sells and has good profit margins for them..
How I see it, its kinda like classic cars, they are not all that great, but theh are mechanical, simple, rugged and with a lot of soul. So they can't be replaced, even if there are new cars with incredible stats out there..
Mechanical movements have been around for ages. Even if Seiko is only interested in digital, there is a basic level of QC that is not only attainable, but required.
Other cheaper, smaller, newer watch brands doing it better than them gives them no excuses.
Nobody asked Seikos to reinvent the wheel. In terms of bread and butter movements, everybody does that, from Pateks to Rolexes to Omegas all the way down to microbrands. And these brands have innovations and a spirit of excellence to call their own. Why is Seiko not doing it?
The classic car analogy could be far fetched. Because mechanical is well and alive, and remains totally relevant to all watch lovers. It is going nowhere, and right at this moment, there are new innovations being made everywhere. Today, I will buy a mechanical watch for its innovative, excellent and reliable movement. METAs and COSC certifications hold watchmakers to high standards and good brands aspire to be certified by them. They are not antiquated technology. My last purchase was an Omega. A joy to behold in both worksmanship and actual technology.
Mechanical movement aside, Seiko can't even get its basic QC right. Misaligned bezels, misaligned hour markers on the dial itself, are ancient world level of quality issues. The last i checked, 6 consecutive pieces of the Sumo solar quartz GMT, selling for USD 6-700, have serious misalignments. And this was across 4 shops, in 2 different countries, over 2 months. I gave up on mechanical Seikos and wanted to get that as a fun piece, and even with such low expectations, that watch has failed.
If we want to talk about innovations, i turn to my apple watch right now.
If you want battery life, i just go to my solar quartz.
There is nothing else Seiko needs to do right now that is more important than getting the very basics right.
The very bare minimum basics, that they actually are charging audacious amounts of money for.
@John Lin Yeah, I do agree with you. I love seiko divers, I got the 38mm solar diver, and mine has no QC issues besides the beezle being around 0.1mm off if I use a glass to really get a good look. It also hits the marks to a point where I can't really see it's off at any point. But I did inspect it carefully at the AD I bought it at, and I would not order one online as I know Seiko, and I did talk them down to 440 Euros, which is 10%+ off. As their 600 asking price just make me giggle, even if its pretty much my perfect watch, I also love how it does a little under +1/month.
With how I love Seiko divers, do I really want mechanical ones when I see them, but then I remember their terrible movements and I stay away.
I got a newer Seiko 5 with the 4R with the day date. Stopped using it as I can't stand how it's all over the place from day to day. And I've heard the 4R tend to do better in general than the 6R. And my Seiko 5 I got for 190 USD new, The 6R ones are often 6 times that!!
The 4R movement also did break on me, but Seiko did take it back, binned the movement, and slapped in a new one for free, as was under warrancy.
I have a Tissot powermatic 80 PR100 watch, I got for 180 USD, and it's pretty much spot on everyday, gained a couple of seconds in a little over a week.
So when it comes to mechanical watches, will I not buy any seikos, as long as they resemble anything they currently are on the movement side. I got a great experience with Miyotas, on the other hand.
But I guess mechanical watches are not really that good tool anymore, as they are either way too valuable to be slapped around, too inaccurate or just the fact that they can't withstand the same beating as physics are just not on their side..
Never really liked the Sub
. I'm saving for my one watch - Explorer 36. Do you think that's a solid choice? Any criticism?
Explorer 36 is one of the most solid watches out there! :) That's a great one watch show!
@@BraveBeatersthank you so much. Predictable choice isn't it.. my carousel took me to Speedy, IWC mark 16, Aqua Terra. All sold now and looking for simplicity
@@Tobester_McDonkey that sounds great! Yeah I've seen them on chrono24 at reduced prices, so they are unique in the current rolex market! I'll be going with the steel 36mm as it'll be my daily, so I would like something as "vanilla" as possible... just hope I manage to get the right size with the lack of micro adjust
Another great video. When it comes to selling, what is you go to approach / marketplace?
Reference point is chrono24. Any dealer, buyer or seller is following the platform for price referenes.
As other ways to underatand it's value is to put it in watch groups at some specific prices and test the waters.
Excellent clip my man. Agree or disagree, it's an interesting take. I own a couple of Rolex (gold mid 50's oyster and a 2003 Submariner)...and a couple of Seikos (Mini Turtle and an MM200). I've never considered selling the Rolex's since frankly, you sell 'em, the money disappears and then, well, hey-ho. No money and no watches! I've done it before, selling some 80 pieces in 2008 but am now back up to about 35. It's a sickness that never leaves you ;) But I sure get the idea of selling everything and going with one or two less expensive 'classics'...
I am thinking and I remember when I got aware that I'm gone become a Rolex owner. It was a moment when I've decided that I can afford and I'm willing to pay. The deciding factor was my watchmaker when he told me that from his perspective Rolex has before everything else very good movements.
That's how I bought an Explorer from 2010 the one with short hands.
I'm very happy with my watch and I'm wearing it every where I go. It's not my only watch but it's the best I own.
I don't have an SKX but I have an NY0040.
Perhaps a Grand Seiko?? Potentially the best value.
have you thought about a Seiko LX piece? for instance a SNR031 with spring drive and 300m water resist. It's gorgeous live and it's a beautiful titanium piece, extremely well done (granted it's a bit on the chunky side for some).
Can we talk about the Citizen Promaster NY0040? I have the 17LE version (blue dial) and am thinking I actually prefer the Promaster NY0040 to the SKX.... You've talked about Citizen before (props to you Andrei) but I think the Promaster NY0040 deserves more love. They can still be found for bargain prices too, I got mine from ebay a few weeks back for $100.
So watches have come and gone but never my SKX007, nor my SARB017, nor my Casio G Shock DW 5600. Icons I suppose and there is a reason for that which is hard to explain. My latest , my blue Certina DS Action Diver may also be forever. It is just so captivating. There is a Rolex vibe there but more attractive somehow. But it scares me, why does it keep to 1 second a day. It shouldn’t do that. What’s going on?
all 3, true classics!! which can represent the base of any solid collection! There is a bit of Rolex vibe, on the Action diver true. As for the accuracy, I'd say is very good :D
You are cool as usual, my friend 😊🙏
Spot on for sure. Thanks! What is the real difference between your favorite shirt and and your watch? In time you will change your preference. A new shirt or a new watch is a way of progress. Now I have a
Seiko 7c43-7000 Kanji. 🇯🇵🌊
you also sold the Explorer 1?
It’s my first “real” watch and second day of owning the SKX007J. I decided to pay more for the Japan made model in mint condition as a gift to myself for graduating with my masters in December and a momento of simpler times (90s) baby. I cannot say enough about how good I feel on the purchase and hope to have this watch a very long time. Get one while you can.
Congrats on your hard work,obtaining masters.I too bought J version.just”cuz”😂
@@renehernandez6905 Thank you! Walk this Saturday
I also own SKX 007 ..quality is good , almost 10 years I've been wearing it,, only once having it service..up until now, still clicking to do its job, telling accurate time..
Hi Andrei sure i have both the SKX 007 & 009 the Juibilee 22mm strap looks fab i have no intentions of letting them go from my collection they are both icons cool looking timeless pieces.
Very true, Nigel! Timeless pieces to keep and enjoy over the years! Cheers! :)
Related to this type of diver watches, and you reviewing a lot of Certinas, will you review this very nice looking new Certina black diver soon? All the best!
Great story telling again Andrei! Happy to hear you say replacement instead of alternative for the rolex Sub. Try something from a "big brand" you haven't owned before. With the funds out of the Explorer 2 and Submariner, you could even reach for some of the brands the next level up. A nice Patek Aquanaut of Nautilus perhaps..
Haha. Cheers, Roy!
Pateks are starting from 80-100 K onwards. Nothing touchable from the menetioned list :)
@@BraveBeaters only a 10 year wait list for the list price that's nothing 😅
@@BraveBeaters You can easily get a vintage patek for 10-20k just not the hype watches
I choose the Seiko SKX007, Seiko SARB033 and a Casio A168WG for my cheap three watch collection. Of course I still love looking at other people’s watches but I feel like it don’t miss anything. Also, I like playing around with different bracelets for those watches, which can make a huge difference.
To be the SKX is the budget Submariner. It doesn't have the finishing or quality or high end brand, but it dresses up and down just like the Submariner and holds a similar style.
My replacement for my ProSpex Seikos was an SKX. I love the look. I love the wear. I love the size. I love not hacking/setting it. I loved it so much, I bought a second one/ They are all I wear now.
Great Vid. Nicely done and really good thoughts in there. Liked alot. And ,yes , you are right about SKX....
Good for you….I agree 100%…it all about the experience of ownership….nothing can erase your joy and memories of past watches. When you find that you’re not wearing them, it’s time to let them go and get something else that you will wear…unless you’re one of those people who have the ability to hoard a huge collection of watches that spend all their time in a box inside a safe. Nothing wrong with that, but for me personally, watches should be worn.
Wonderful video 👌🤩
I did the same. Only I bought SRPD55. The GMT MASTER is irreplaceable but the Sub is just too simple, boring and common to suck up 10k of your money.
With the Master 2, not worth joking around, but with the sub, Yes. Agreed :)
The skx013 makes sense.. I agree and bought the skx too and I am happy with the purchase.. it gives me very strong japanese vibes and wont compete too hard with my 114270