I remember reading this book back when it first came out and I remember it being a refreshing change from some of the other books at the time. it's been many years since I read it but I still have fond memories of it and I still hold some of the lessons I learned from it near to me to this very day specifically the parts about knowing yourself and your faults and your strengths
It's a good message, and I appreciate how Elegos especially brings Corran back from falling too deep into his undercover role. I wish Corran didn't so consistently rub me the wrong way, though--I like him, but at his most arrogant he's just A Lot. ;)
@@MegReviews that's fair in retrospect after reading it with adult eyes corron is a bit of a dork on occasion lol and the author trying to fit a first person narrative on the Jedi academy series felt kind of forced
I like Corran playing the role of Ripley in Aliens, the moment he learns the temples are haunted he's in full "Nuke it from orbit" mode. And he fails, but even after the ghost is defeated he *STILL* insists on blowing up the most haunted temple just in case.
I couldn’t agree with you more. Corran’s reprimand of Luke before he left the Jedi Academy crossed the line in my opinion. I was shocked that Horn had the audacity to tell Luke he had more experience with temptations from the dark side than he. Of course, Stackpole, much like Anderson, paints Luke as a dope that has to be led around by second-string players. Stackpole could have done a better job here. I found Horn’s playboy approach to women (other than his wife) disappointing since his whole mission “seems” to center around finding her (I guess). Hopefully, the 19 books of NJO will be better written. What are your thoughts on NJO?
I don’t know if it’s because of my dislike to JAT that I really love this book. The first person perspective didn’t bother me at all. I also love the retcons to the Jedi Academy storyline especially making Luke more sympathetic and more tired because of the weight of responsibility he has. I also feel Mara was more in character than her depiction in JAT and I like that her feelings for Luke are acknowledge in the book. I also absolutely love the Jensaarai and the training parts from the Academy parts. I think the only weak part was when Corran infiltrated the Invids since it felt like a repetition of the X-Wing books. And finally something I found amusing is that yes Corran does comment on the beauty of the women he meets he does the same thing with the men he meets too.
I think my enjoyment of I, Jedi directly correlates to my ability to tolerate Corran, which fluctuates so widely from book to book. (Mara was interesting here, and much more Zahn-esque.) And I'd forgotten about Corran's irrational jealousy of the good-looking Invid pirate--Corran Horn, equal opportunity ogler.
My very favorite part in this is Corran running from Tycho and realizing just how terrifyingly *Good* Tycho is (And by extension Wedge is too,) that they're even better than he thought he was.
10:00 Oh no, that's fine, basically everyone in Stackpole books is a sue. He's got that Incredibles Villain energy: When EVERYONE is a Mary/Gary Sue/Stu... *No one is..."*
2:40 Honestly, from Stackpole's very first novel, the Battletech tie-in Warrior trilogy you could tell the guy wanted to do more First Person stuff, several of the conversations in those three books are charafters telling old First Person info back to each other.
I may be the only person to have this opinion about the book - but it sucks, yes. I believe that it was just Stackpole hating on KJA at that time. He just needs to present his prized possession Corran Horn as a very essential part as if he's the reason the Jedi Academy is still there. And it was just dumb that he didn't fall to the dark side despite Mirax.
That's not true at all, I, Jedi is a complement to JAT and fixes most of its problems since it was a messy trilogy. Stackpole was constantly in contact with KJA while writing it.
Gary Stu for sure. Boyscout spacecop who's gonna lecture Luke about how Luke's running his first class of Jedi badly. He feels like a know it all jerk. He's probably never been to Kessell but is totally fine with sending perps there even though it will likely mean their death in the mines. I'm halfway through it and Corran seems kind of insufferable but is somehow understood and loved by all. I still haven't read the x wing books but I did read the jedi academy trilogy so that helped a bit. Think I was more interested in the parts Exar Kun showed up in. And yeah it was weird how he's seems to size up all the females in the book who aren't his wife lmao!!! This is a train wreck I just can't look away from lol. Are the x wing books better than this? I heard they were good.
I didnt read the jedi academy before reading i jedi and during the yavin 4 section i was super confused because it seemed like there was parts im missing and I though i was going crazy and that part was just writen poorly.
I 'm sure rewriting the plot points of an established story made it pretty easy to knock out this novel...I honestly liked the Character as a kid, but I I met him in the New Jedi Order books and he was pared with a real D-Bag Jedi. Not sure if the character had evolved by then. I read this book after the fact. I don't recall having any issue it with it. But what I like most is that it was the first time when Star Wars started to break from the core characters.
Nice outfit lol. As a JAT fan, i didin't enjoy this book, mainly because half of it was making fun of a plotline instead of actually "fixing" it, in fact, the author made it worse by inserting Corran into anything, trying to make all the other characters look stupid, it feels very artificial. Also, Corran Horny. His characterization in X-wing and Hand of Thrawn was much superior, here he's just a boring esnob. What i do like about this is how they showed the aftermath of Dark Empire, the slower parts exploring his Jedi training and stuff are fun.
I prefer when Corran is tempered/balanced by the characters around him, and I, Jedi features way too much of him. I wasn't a fan of the Jedi Academy trilogy, but I, Jedi's retcons don't work for me either--like you said, he's thrown into too many scenes and doesn't add to them. I liked the memories of his grandfather and the Corellian Jedi traditions, and I would have liked to see more with the Jensaari.
For me, I, Jedi is a book that the parts are better for me than the sum of the whole. The plot, where Corran just...hangs out gaining levels like in an RPG for a really long time, really does feel a bit off. But I quite liked all of the detail of the Force and being a Jedi, and Corran's moral struggles. As someone who's only read one of the JAT, and I think I, Jedi holds together, I don't think you really need to read it.
I liked that Corran had definite weaknesses/inabilities--it felt like a natural development to our understanding of Force abilities, that not everyone has the same inherent gifts. I hadn't thought of Corran's pirate time as RPG grinding, but that's exactly what it felt like!
Having only just finished this, I have mixed opinions about it. It is clearly my least favorite of the books in which Corran Horn appears. And while he didn't bother me in the previous books as much as he bothers you, I didn't care for him in this book, and therefore, hearing everything from his perspective added to my dislike. While I found Hearn's book told in first person from Luke's perspective to flow naturally, I didn't care for a first person recounting of this tale. I also felt the book would've been better if it was at least 200 pages shorter. In my opinion, the entire Jedi academy segment could have been omitted altogether. Like you, I also felt Horn's force abilities were over powered in certain aspects -- while curiously under powered in others. Certainly an odd combo which just didn't feel right. I felt the only two characters to whom Stackpol did justice in this story were Mara and Mirax, both of whom appeared far too sparsely. While I haven't read the Jedi Academy trilogy and have really no interest in doing so, I thought this book portrayed Luke as an abysmal teacher and I didn't care for him at all until the last part of the book where I saw the Luke whose exploits I always enjoyed and whose character I've respected. Not quite as bad as the contrast between the Luke of the OT (and now The Mandalorian) as juxtaposed against the abominably besmirched Luke "Jake" Skywalker of the sequel trilogy, but nonetheless, something with which I wasn't pleased. I pretty much agree with everything you've said. And while I didn't hate the book, and there were portions I did like, overall it's not something I ever see myself reading again.
I felt like the first-person narration brought out some of Corran's worst characteristics, and it felt less insightful and more navel-gazing. Like you, it ended up being a mixed bag for me.
I've gone back looking for reviews of yours I haven't watched before and this is one of them. Yeah, I was never big on the JAT for multiple reasons. I have not read this book in decades but from what I recall I thought Corran at the time was an arrogant Jackass. LOL. So I did like it when Kun hands it to him and also that at the end he kind of admits that Luke was better than his original assessment. The whole when are you going to care about your wife thing rubbed me wrong too. It was a continuing issue with me how authors always tried to make Luke be self questioning, and moody and out of stories, while others did one or two over power things while still ignoring the fun and cool parts of Luke. I did feel the author did better with Mara. I have found that fan fic writers are pretty good at writing Corran though which amuses me.
Corran has some odd quirks (like evaluating the attractiveness of everyone he meets!), but I've enjoyed him in fanfic--I think he needs people like Kyp to play off of, with Luke taking the middle ground. JAT Luke feels so remote and humorless, I definitely missed the lighter, funnier side of Luke. Honestly, that was also my problem with most depictions of Luke in the Bantam books, they emphasized the powerful Jedi Master at the expense of the kinder, more human/fallible aspects of his personality.
@@MegReviews exactly. Have you ever read X wing Knights of Plooma it's a fan fic. Hilarious and I love how Corran is written in it. bahaha. Maybe one day you can review some of your favorite fan fics that might be fun.
I’ve never understood the overwhelming amount of love this book gets. It’s above average, sure, but it’s the not great. There’s just nothing remarkable about it.
Tavira's got reasons for being so messed up that actually make her being hypersexual kinda sad despite all the awful things se does. She was a victim of let's just call him "Moff Epstein" and uh, unhealthy coping mechanisms ahoy.
This book was puzzing and not very good. The premise is not that interesting to begin with, and the execution by Stackpole was even worse. First of all, why did Stackpole think it was a good idea to shoehorn his character into an already written trilogy? And why did he make it seem like if Corran wasn't there, all of the fantastic characters in Anderson's trilogy would've lost against Kun? If they wanted to make a first-person novel set in the Star Wars universe, that's fine, but why did Stackpole give us that? A much better idea for a story would've been a story set in Streen's point of view. Streen was a quiet character with his own internal struggles, like resisting Exar Kun, among other things. It would've made perfect sense to make a first-person adventure about him that basically retells the events of the Jedi Academy trilogy from his point of view. If Stackpole really wanted Corran to be a Jedi, why couldn't he just make the entire story take place after the Jedi Academy trilogy? He could explain that Corran was off doing his own mission and that's why Luke didn't ask him. He could've still explained Corran's training as a Jedi and still have a story where he searches for Mirax. It's just dumb, and the fact it took him only a month to write it, makes it even worse. That tells me he didn't put too much effort into making a quality story. Then again, the first half of the book wasn't even his story. Maybe Stackpole should've thought first about making Corran Horn Force-sensitive before writing that in his X-wing books. Another thing that bothered me about the book is how Corran is Mr. Perfect at everything. He successfully resists the temptation of Exar Kun, even though he is hellbent on trying to find his wife and has little training in the Force, and he just resists because Stackpole wants him too. He also destroys Luke in a lightsaber battle, which makes even less sense than him resisting Exar Kun. I get Luke was a little disappointed that Mara left the academy, but is that a valid enough excuse as to why Luke lost against an inexperienced dueler like Corran Horn? This book is just a prime example of laziness. No thought, and nothing but disrespect for Kevin J. Anderson and his masterpiece of a trilogy.
Masterpiece of a trilogy ? That's a... Bold statement. The entire trilogy is based on the assumption that Luke is the biggest idiot to ever exist. I found myself wondering why Luke didn't just take the students away from the academy and form a strategy to destroy Kun without running the risk of his students dying. It's not all bad. The supporting cast is pretty good and Kyp is interesting but this all is completely overshadowed by Luke being completely out of character. I,Jedi at least tries to fix that mess
@@jimpat2489 apparently the definition of an idiot is somebody who has no way of knowing about something making a million assumptions basically being all knowing and perfect in order to not be dumb. Yoda, obi, Anakin all ghosts who never interacted with physical reality. So why would Luke assume anyway that a sith Spirit could harm them.
@@magnenoalex2 he should have assumed that because one of his students got flash fried from the inside out a day after talking about exar kun. I'm not saying that he should have immediately guessed that it was the spirit of exar kun that killed Gantoris but at the same time basically ignoring the problem and letting Corran play find the killer was stupid. Someone had killed Gantoris and Luke was criminally apathetic towards the fact. Then, when kyp started doing the exact same things Gantoris was doing and even attacked Corran for... talking to him his first reaction was: what did you say to Kyp? Imagine being attacked by a lunatic teenager who was being helped by an evil spirit, get thrown to a wall, have the wall collapse on you and after you barely survive your master's first question is: you must have said something to him. In general Luke in that trilogy and in I, jedi is horribly inept. Even if he is inexperienced as a teacher he still shouldn't be that horrible
I remember reading this book back when it first came out and I remember it being a refreshing change from some of the other books at the time. it's been many years since I read it but I still have fond memories of it and I still hold some of the lessons I learned from it near to me to this very day specifically the parts about knowing yourself and your faults and your strengths
It's a good message, and I appreciate how Elegos especially brings Corran back from falling too deep into his undercover role. I wish Corran didn't so consistently rub me the wrong way, though--I like him, but at his most arrogant he's just A Lot. ;)
@@MegReviews that's fair in retrospect after reading it with adult eyes corron is a bit of a dork on occasion lol and the author trying to fit a first person narrative on the Jedi academy series felt kind of forced
I like Corran playing the role of Ripley in Aliens, the moment he learns the temples are haunted he's in full "Nuke it from orbit" mode. And he fails, but even after the ghost is defeated he *STILL* insists on blowing up the most haunted temple just in case.
I couldn’t agree with you more. Corran’s reprimand of Luke before he left the Jedi Academy crossed the line in my opinion. I was shocked that Horn had the audacity to tell Luke he had more experience with temptations from the dark side than he. Of course, Stackpole, much like Anderson, paints Luke as a dope that has to be led around by second-string players. Stackpole could have done a better job here. I found Horn’s playboy approach to women (other than his wife) disappointing since his whole mission “seems” to center around finding her (I guess). Hopefully, the 19 books of NJO will be better written. What are your thoughts on NJO?
Corran's arrogance is his biggest character flaw, and he gets put in his place by external factors so I don't see much of a problem
I don’t know if it’s because of my dislike to JAT that I really love this book. The first person perspective didn’t bother me at all. I also love the retcons to the Jedi Academy storyline especially making Luke more sympathetic and more tired because of the weight of responsibility he has. I also feel Mara was more in character than her depiction in JAT and I like that her feelings for Luke are acknowledge in the book. I also absolutely love the Jensaarai and the training parts from the Academy parts. I think the only weak part was when Corran infiltrated the Invids since it felt like a repetition of the X-Wing books. And finally something I found amusing is that yes Corran does comment on the beauty of the women he meets he does the same thing with the men he meets too.
I think my enjoyment of I, Jedi directly correlates to my ability to tolerate Corran, which fluctuates so widely from book to book. (Mara was interesting here, and much more Zahn-esque.) And I'd forgotten about Corran's irrational jealousy of the good-looking Invid pirate--Corran Horn, equal opportunity ogler.
There's a reason Corran is sometimes called Corran Horny. It's kinda a fun quirk.
Yeah Jedi Academy Trilogy is far better than I, Jedi
My very favorite part in this is Corran running from Tycho and realizing just how terrifyingly *Good* Tycho is (And by extension Wedge is too,) that they're even better than he thought he was.
10:00 Oh no, that's fine, basically everyone in Stackpole books is a sue. He's got that Incredibles Villain energy: When EVERYONE is a Mary/Gary Sue/Stu... *No one is..."*
2:40 Honestly, from Stackpole's very first novel, the Battletech tie-in Warrior trilogy you could tell the guy wanted to do more First Person stuff, several of the conversations in those three books are charafters telling old First Person info back to each other.
I may be the only person to have this opinion about the book - but it sucks, yes. I believe that it was just Stackpole hating on KJA at that time. He just needs to present his prized possession Corran Horn as a very essential part as if he's the reason the Jedi Academy is still there. And it was just dumb that he didn't fall to the dark side despite Mirax.
That's not true at all, I, Jedi is a complement to JAT and fixes most of its problems since it was a messy trilogy. Stackpole was constantly in contact with KJA while writing it.
I always thought that I, Jedi was the auto-biography of Horn
Since Stackpole wrote I, Jedi in the first person, it feels like a memoir--a short one covering only a few months, but it's the right POV. ;)
@@MegReviews yeah, and like he was like making stuff like "remember this dark jedi... well I defeated him...
"
Gary Stu for sure. Boyscout spacecop who's gonna lecture Luke about how Luke's running his first class of Jedi badly. He feels like a know it all jerk. He's probably never been to Kessell but is totally fine with sending perps there even though it will likely mean their death in the mines. I'm halfway through it and Corran seems kind of insufferable but is somehow understood and loved by all. I still haven't read the x wing books but I did read the jedi academy trilogy so that helped a bit. Think I was more interested in the parts Exar Kun showed up in. And yeah it was weird how he's seems to size up all the females in the book who aren't his wife lmao!!! This is a train wreck I just can't look away from lol. Are the x wing books better than this? I heard they were good.
I see what you did with your costume choice there, nice! :)
I'm not sure Corran would be wearing wool winter gloves (his are probably leather) but I love that jumpsuit!
@@MegReviews its a nice look tbh! IF you havent yet i'd recommend the Republic Commando novels
I didnt read the jedi academy before reading i jedi and during the yavin 4 section i was super confused because it seemed like there was parts im missing and I though i was going crazy and that part was just writen poorly.
Do you know Matt Wilkins? he knows your channel and wants you to appear on one of his streams one day, he also disliked I'Jedi.
I 'm sure rewriting the plot points of an established story made it pretty easy to knock out this novel...I honestly liked the Character as a kid, but I I met him in the New Jedi Order books and he was pared with a real D-Bag Jedi. Not sure if the character had evolved by then. I read this book after the fact. I don't recall having any issue it with it. But what I like most is that it was the first time when Star Wars started to break from the core characters.
Nice outfit lol.
As a JAT fan, i didin't enjoy this book, mainly because half of it was making fun of a plotline instead of actually "fixing" it, in fact, the author made it worse by inserting Corran into anything, trying to make all the other characters look stupid, it feels very artificial.
Also, Corran Horny.
His characterization in X-wing and Hand of Thrawn was much superior, here he's just a boring esnob.
What i do like about this is how they showed the aftermath of Dark Empire, the slower parts exploring his Jedi training and stuff are fun.
I prefer when Corran is tempered/balanced by the characters around him, and I, Jedi features way too much of him. I wasn't a fan of the Jedi Academy trilogy, but I, Jedi's retcons don't work for me either--like you said, he's thrown into too many scenes and doesn't add to them. I liked the memories of his grandfather and the Corellian Jedi traditions, and I would have liked to see more with the Jensaari.
I reccomend skipping the Jedi Academy books and reading I, Jedi instead. I put Crystal star over The Jedi Academy.
For me, I, Jedi is a book that the parts are better for me than the sum of the whole. The plot, where Corran just...hangs out gaining levels like in an RPG for a really long time, really does feel a bit off. But I quite liked all of the detail of the Force and being a Jedi, and Corran's moral struggles. As someone who's only read one of the JAT, and I think I, Jedi holds together, I don't think you really need to read it.
I liked that Corran had definite weaknesses/inabilities--it felt like a natural development to our understanding of Force abilities, that not everyone has the same inherent gifts. I hadn't thought of Corran's pirate time as RPG grinding, but that's exactly what it felt like!
@@MegReviews Both Allston and Stackpole did a lot of gaming, so it makes sense to me! :)
Having only just finished this, I have mixed opinions about it.
It is clearly my least favorite of the books in which Corran Horn appears. And while he didn't bother me in the previous books as much as he bothers you, I didn't care for him in this book, and therefore, hearing everything from his perspective added to my dislike.
While I found Hearn's book told in first person from Luke's perspective to flow naturally, I didn't care for a first person recounting of this tale.
I also felt the book would've been better if it was at least 200 pages shorter. In my opinion, the entire Jedi academy segment could have been omitted altogether.
Like you, I also felt Horn's force abilities were over powered in certain aspects -- while curiously under powered in others. Certainly an odd combo which just didn't feel right.
I felt the only two characters to whom Stackpol did justice in this story were Mara and Mirax, both of whom appeared far too sparsely.
While I haven't read the Jedi Academy trilogy and have really no interest in doing so, I thought this book portrayed Luke as an abysmal teacher and I didn't care for him at all until the last part of the book where I saw the Luke whose exploits I always enjoyed and whose character I've respected. Not quite as bad as the contrast between the Luke of the OT (and now The Mandalorian) as juxtaposed against the abominably besmirched Luke "Jake" Skywalker of the sequel trilogy, but nonetheless, something with which I wasn't pleased.
I pretty much agree with everything you've said. And while I didn't hate the book, and there were portions I did like, overall it's not something I ever see myself reading again.
I felt like the first-person narration brought out some of Corran's worst characteristics, and it felt less insightful and more navel-gazing. Like you, it ended up being a mixed bag for me.
I've gone back looking for reviews of yours I haven't watched before and this is one of them. Yeah, I was never big on the JAT for multiple reasons. I have not read this book in decades but from what I recall I thought Corran at the time was an arrogant Jackass. LOL. So I did like it when Kun hands it to him and also that at the end he kind of admits that Luke was better than his original assessment. The whole when are you going to care about your wife thing rubbed me wrong too. It was a continuing issue with me how authors always tried to make Luke be self questioning, and moody and out of stories, while others did one or two over power things while still ignoring the fun and cool parts of Luke. I did feel the author did better with Mara. I have found that fan fic writers are pretty good at writing Corran though which amuses me.
Corran has some odd quirks (like evaluating the attractiveness of everyone he meets!), but I've enjoyed him in fanfic--I think he needs people like Kyp to play off of, with Luke taking the middle ground. JAT Luke feels so remote and humorless, I definitely missed the lighter, funnier side of Luke. Honestly, that was also my problem with most depictions of Luke in the Bantam books, they emphasized the powerful Jedi Master at the expense of the kinder, more human/fallible aspects of his personality.
@@MegReviews exactly. Have you ever read X wing Knights of Plooma it's a fan fic. Hilarious and I love how Corran is written in it. bahaha. Maybe one day you can review some of your favorite fan fics that might be fun.
I’ve never understood the overwhelming amount of love this book gets. It’s above average, sure, but it’s the not great. There’s just nothing remarkable about it.
Do you do collaborations with other EU youtubers?
Tavira's got reasons for being so messed up that actually make her being hypersexual kinda sad despite all the awful things se does. She was a victim of let's just call him "Moff Epstein" and uh, unhealthy coping mechanisms ahoy.
This book was puzzing and not very good. The premise is not that interesting to begin with, and the execution by Stackpole was even worse. First of all, why did Stackpole think it was a good idea to shoehorn his character into an already written trilogy? And why did he make it seem like if Corran wasn't there, all of the fantastic characters in Anderson's trilogy would've lost against Kun? If they wanted to make a first-person novel set in the Star Wars universe, that's fine, but why did Stackpole give us that? A much better idea for a story would've been a story set in Streen's point of view. Streen was a quiet character with his own internal struggles, like resisting Exar Kun, among other things. It would've made perfect sense to make a first-person adventure about him that basically retells the events of the Jedi Academy trilogy from his point of view. If Stackpole really wanted Corran to be a Jedi, why couldn't he just make the entire story take place after the Jedi Academy trilogy? He could explain that Corran was off doing his own mission and that's why Luke didn't ask him. He could've still explained Corran's training as a Jedi and still have a story where he searches for Mirax. It's just dumb, and the fact it took him only a month to write it, makes it even worse. That tells me he didn't put too much effort into making a quality story. Then again, the first half of the book wasn't even his story. Maybe Stackpole should've thought first about making Corran Horn Force-sensitive before writing that in his X-wing books.
Another thing that bothered me about the book is how Corran is Mr. Perfect at everything. He successfully resists the temptation of Exar Kun, even though he is hellbent on trying to find his wife and has little training in the Force, and he just resists because Stackpole wants him too. He also destroys Luke in a lightsaber battle, which makes even less sense than him resisting Exar Kun. I get Luke was a little disappointed that Mara left the academy, but is that a valid enough excuse as to why Luke lost against an inexperienced dueler like Corran Horn?
This book is just a prime example of laziness. No thought, and nothing but disrespect for Kevin J. Anderson and his masterpiece of a trilogy.
Masterpiece of a trilogy ? That's a... Bold statement. The entire trilogy is based on the assumption that Luke is the biggest idiot to ever exist. I found myself wondering why Luke didn't just take the students away from the academy and form a strategy to destroy Kun without running the risk of his students dying. It's not all bad. The supporting cast is pretty good and Kyp is interesting but this all is completely overshadowed by Luke being completely out of character. I,Jedi at least tries to fix that mess
@@jimpat2489 he didn't know about Exar Kun till he literally shoved him out of his Body .......
@@jimpat2489 apparently the definition of an idiot is somebody who has no way of knowing about something making a million assumptions basically being all knowing and perfect in order to not be dumb. Yoda, obi, Anakin all ghosts who never interacted with physical reality. So why would Luke assume anyway that a sith Spirit could harm them.
@@magnenoalex2 he should have assumed that because one of his students got flash fried from the inside out a day after talking about exar kun. I'm not saying that he should have immediately guessed that it was the spirit of exar kun that killed Gantoris but at the same time basically ignoring the problem and letting Corran play find the killer was stupid. Someone had killed Gantoris and Luke was criminally apathetic towards the fact. Then, when kyp started doing the exact same things Gantoris was doing and even attacked Corran for... talking to him his first reaction was: what did you say to Kyp? Imagine being attacked by a lunatic teenager who was being helped by an evil spirit, get thrown to a wall, have the wall collapse on you and after you barely survive your master's first question is: you must have said something to him. In general Luke in that trilogy and in I, jedi is horribly inept. Even if he is inexperienced as a teacher he still shouldn't be that horrible