How Fast Can Fangio's Formula 1 Car Lap The Nordschleife?
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2019
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"Racing is about being the fastest driving as slow as possible" phrase of Fangio that represents well an era of Motorsport where going over the limit could easily cost your life. "My biggest accomplishment in my career was finishing it alive" also said by the master. Thanks for reviving the memory of the great champion, greetings from his homeland 🇦🇷
Wow. That really makes me think he could have been successful in any era. I tend to think the farther back in time we go the less impressive feats are, not to downplay them, but ya know...it was just guys going out and racing, not like today where to even make it to F1 means being the best of every step of the ladder since you were like 4 lol But that comment displays the right mentality. Realizing the best racer is as quick as needed....makes me think of Prost or even Schumi how he would pound out just enough just fast enough laps to just pull it out and etc
He was clearly a best, so yeah I beat Fangio would've been a great in any era.
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@Henrik Armani yup, I've been watching on InstaFlixxer for since december myself =)
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As opposed to Mario Andretti: "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
I've recently watched the interview he did with an argentinian journalist in 1990, talking about that race.
He said, and I quote:
"I've never been a terrific driver. I always drove within my posibilities. This is why i'm here talking to you. In my 10 years of racing in Europe, 30 pilots died. So, logically, sometimes you have to do what you CAN do. But sometimes the circumstance forces you to do the extra.
In that race i lost a lot of time in the pits. The guys got nervous when they where changing the rear tyres. When i stopped i had a 30 sec advantage and when i exited i was 48 seconds behind. The next lap i'm 51 behind because i had fresh tyres. So i thought "No. I'm not winning the race". Collins and Hutton were in the lead, but i received a signal from boxes that only Hutton was ahead. So i thought "maybe i can catch up to Hutton and finish 2nd". And when i was going down Adenau, if people know the track they can picture it, i saw the two cars going up. I thought "maybe i can catch up to them... I'll start using higher gears", wich is always a risky situation. Corners where i'd go in 2nd gear, i'd go 3rd. If i used 3rd gear in this corner, i'd use 4th instead, and doing so -".
Reporter interrupts him saying: "i'm sorry i've interrupted. But you're talking about this like it was THAT easy to drive with higher gears. And it's NOT that simple".
Fangio goes on saying: Yes, well. Nurburgring is a circuit where you don't need a lot of power, except at the straights. And the thing was, i realized i had the pace because they told me so with signals. So when i was near the two cars i thought i could pass them both, and ended up winning by 4 seconds".
watch?v=--eYrtdRWmY 1:47 for the interview in spanish
who is Hutton? I thought Jimmy was talking about Mike Hawthorn. Never heard any Ferrari driver named Hutton
Yeah, It must be Hawthorn, Mike Hawthorn. Though I can't see why they liked to use the V12 version of the car. In real life, that version is the least successful, only used in practice sessions and when it do raced, it always retires due to engine problems like overheating, etc. The V12 engine in real life is powerful indeed, but the power delivery is very peaky, then couple that to the engine's aforementioned teething problems mean't that even Fangio or Behra can't really exploit its potential (Fangio tested the V12 car at Monaco, but despite his efforts he can't even approach the time he made with the 6-cylinder version, a 1:42 lap time that no one could even come close to matching, so in the race he reverted to the 6-cylinder car). Might I suggest to use the 6-cylinder version instead, because that is the car every racing driver of the time loved. Also, Fangio did his fateful race at the Nurburgring in the good ol' 8-cylinder version.
@@DagasanK Yes. It was Mike Hawthorn. I translated it poorly because I was hearing Fangio speaking and could not figure out the exact last name.
Wow that's amazing. It makes me think he could've succeeded in any era. Not to put down the names of olden days, and greats are always great, but ya know all is relative and back in these days it was literally just guys going out there. Not like today where ya may start at 4 and to make F1 means climbing some hyper intense ladder and everything is fine tuned and drivers trained to optimize. BUT this quote, along with Fangio's obvious skill, makes me think he'd always be a great. This makes me think of Prost or even modern F1 with having to go just enough to do what is needed. Some legends always will be.
6:22 you want the "full" experience?
-Put the volume at 100% in both the game and the speakers.
-Install two weighs of 2kg at each side of the wheel (no power steering baby!)
-Sensitivity of the wheel at 100%
-Figure the way of making the chair shake like about an 8 in Ritcher scale.
-Put a fan in front of you blowing hot air to your face while a friend causally throws rubber and oil drops to your face.
-Have the nastiest engine you can find running INSIDE your room (look at pictures of 50s drivers after the race and you will understand)
-EXTRA for the "Felice Bonetto" experience: do all of that while smoking.
Great video!
EDIT: Also, NO LEFT FOOT BRAKING! Wasn´t used in F1 at that time, people isn´t even sure if Erik Carlsson used it in the 50s already.
Great comment, only one mistake - Carlsson said himself he didn't brake at all in that little Saab 😉🤣
Putting 100% sensitivity (or rather force feedback) doesn't necessarily mean that it will be realistic. 100% on one wheel won't be the same as 100% on the other.
Lol the weights will just cancel each other out and effectively give the wheel a greater moment of inertia, which makes it more unrealistic. The actual wheel resisted movement, the wheel with weights will keep moving further even after you stop putting force into it.
@@sebd8849 lmao you decided to miss the joke and make a technical complaint about the FFB but had no technical complaints about having a nasty engine running in the room while smoking a cig?
GeekyKaze I didn't missed the joke, I just explained (didn't complain at all) a thing which many people miss, so they can have fun reading a comment, but also learn something. :)
Fangio was in a league of his own. A single lap at the limit with this car is insane, imagine a whole gp pushing the limit turn after turn. And he did survive all of that. For me, the greatest of all time.
Juan Manuel Fangio 1st Drift King (and a Ring Master) amazing driving by the way!
Tazio Nuvolari was the original drift king (Enzo himself said "Nivola" invented the technique).
bathtubs those cars aren't even close to the 70s and after even a kid can brake them put a kid on a f1 car and it wont even be able to press the brakes on a turn lmao
Reminds me of a great story about Bruce McLaren in practice during his first visit to the 'Ring about this time. He was intensely focussed, learning the track in his F2 Cooper, and y'know, trying not to die, and after a while thought he was starting to get the hang of it and put in some decent lap times, albeit it required all his concentration. So much concentration, in fact that out back of the forest he had forgotten some of his track awareness. He was suddenly pulled out of his intense focus while trying to apex a turn at top speed by the sound, and then the sight, of none other than the great Stirling Moss four-wheel drifting around the outside of the corner (and McLaren) in his F1 Vanwall. What's more, Moss was steering *one-handed*, as he was using the other to shake a fist at the young Kiwi for getting in his way. Welcome to the game, son.
Yeah, it's unbelievable those old drivers back then. I found a small clip somewhere of the 1st Hungarian GP in 1936, and in the extremely twisty and very narrow track, there's Tazio Nuvolari driving an Alfa Romeo 8C-35 (an ill-handling car according to some people who owned the surviving examples) driving one-handed round a turn while angrily shaking his fist at the Auto Union driver ahead of him because he's blocked by it. He won that race, defeating the combined might of Mercedes Benz and Auto Union teams, despite his car also giving away at least 100 hp to the German cars.
@@jcgabriel1569 Nuvalari was probably the best driver who ever lived. Ferrari and Porsche thought so snd it’s hard to disagree with them.
Thank you for sharing that.
The track used to be longer (22 Km) but you still beat Fangio's time by almost 45 seconds.
Some further notes,
Fangio was 46 (!!) At the time of this race.
He was also having problems with his seat coming lose so he had to drive the last lap with a knee against the body of the car to keep himself fom falling off. His first two laps after the pitstop were slow so that he lulled ferrari into a false sense of security. It worked. On his third lap after the pitstop he fained one second per mile on the track. Amazing driver
The track was also very badly built and would you go that fast without seat belts
The current track is missing the start/finish straight, the sudkehre (south loop) and the back straight. They took around 40-45" to return to the junction where now you start. So a 8'32" here is a sort of 9'15" in the 1957 layout. BUT actually Fangio never drove the V12 in a F1 race. That engine was developed for the 1958 season, Fangio used it in some non-championship race, then retired from F1. In 1957 Fangio always used the 6L engine, which had a full 50 HP less than the V12. So Fangio's performance was simply ALIEN.
@@MassimoBacilieri The V12 is only run during the 1957 season by the works team. The V12 cars were mostly used in testing by the drivers, Fangio tested it for example during the Monaco GP practice session. And from feedback, the V12 is not suitable for tracks like Nurburgring, as its peaky power delivery makes it tricky to drive.
Fangio drove the straight 6 Maserati 250F at the 1957 German GP!
The V12 version was rarely used; its engine formed the base for the 3l V12 in the back of the late 1960s Coopers, however.
What he/she said! Jimmer take note, please!
@@w0033944 Thank you!
Underbird [former X8X8] correct, the V12 was no where near as successful as the I6 and had overheating issues. The 6-cylinder variant was lighter, more agile, and I personally find it much more enjoyable to drive in AC. Probably my favourite car in the game.
It's these errors on computer games that are, effectively, "re-writing" history. Computer experts may be computer experts, but that doesn't automatically make them motor racing historians. I'm really not trying to be nasty about it, but so often now you get kids who think they know better than you, when you were there in real life(!) and they can prove it because "it's on the web!"
@@brmh1667 How old are you?
All hail the S U P E R I O R Lawn Mower. Ascended endurance series with camper vans when?
this should be top comment
Hear hear!
Fangio at the nurburgring was undoubtedly on of the greatest f1 drives ever and probably only second to Jim Clarks drive at Spa in 1963
He started 8th and in torrential conditions on the old 8.9 mile phenomenally dangerous circuit lapped the field bar Jack Brabham in second and had an over 5 minute lead over him .
All drives come behind the greatest of all time. Tazio Nuvolari in the 1935 German Grand Prix.
1935 German GP, Tazio Nuvolari destroyed a 1:26 sec gap in 12 laps, after a very long pitstop. All I can say, is the Nurburgring (the old one) not just separates men from the boys, but also shows which of the men were deities.
Oh, I've got to change my info regarding the 1935 German GP, based on an account. The pitstop at half distance caused Nuvolari to fall back to sixth place. Nuvolari got to second place on lap 15, at which point he was 1:37!!! seconds behind the lead Mercedes. And his next laps were basically lap of the Gods, the marshalls recall that he drove his Alfa in great drifts, yet he was faster than any of the German cars. On lap 16, he took away 10.6 seconds off the lead gap, the next lap he took away 13.6 seconds, the next lap he took away 17 seconds(!!!). Manfred von Brauchitsch's, in the lead Mercedes, tried to answer by putting some very fast laps, but in doing so, he destroyed his tyres, since his driving style is very hard on the cars and tyres. On the final lap, his left rear tyre finally burst 8km from the finish, giving Nuvolari an unforgettable victory.
Talking about F1, I think Fangio was simply the best ever. Moss - who was Moss - said: "I Fangio wants, he can take me 3 meters each curve". Moss, until is infamous crash at Goodwood, was far better than Clark, which was undoubitably better than Stewart. So to me there is no question Fangio is the greatest of every time. He was the only one able to do the "Calvaire" of Reims flat out. Luigi Musso tried to imitate him but died on doing. Hawthorn followed Fangio to learn the trik, and instantly was 3" faster, but when returned to pit was pale like a ghost: the experience was VERY scaring.
@@MassimoBacilieri For me , Nuvolari is the number one of all time, but if he is no. 1, then Fangio, Moss, Clark, and the Algerian Guy Moll would be 1.1. From what I've read so far, combine Fangio and Moll's speed, driving style and cool-headedness, Moss' versatility, and Clark's almost superhuman ability to adapt to his car and to be very careful in machinery, and then add unwavering determination, you got Nuvolari. His former teammate Rene Dreyfus, one of France's leading drivers at the time, once said that he used to follow Nuvolari at races, always wondering how the hell did he manage to corner much faster, noting that if he tried to do Nuvolari's cornering, he'll just kill himself. Journalists also noted that when they added chicanes at Monza and Montlhery in the mid-1930s, Nuvolari negotiates them faster than anyone. Nuvolari is the only driver hailed as the greatest by both Enzo Ferrari and Ferdinand Porsche, and for me that's a lot.
Mechanic Giulio Ramponi stated that Nuvolari is fast, but also very smooth and gentle to his cars, and related a story of how Nuvolari won one Targa Florio "At the 1932 Targa Florio in the 8C2300 Monzas, his team-mate Borzzachini, who was much slower, used four sets of brakes in practice and kept complaining about them. Nuvolari practised and raced on the same set, made fastest lap and won the race. Strangely, he asked me to lock up his car overnight before the race and not to touch it."
But what really gets to me is his grim determination when racing. At the 1933 Penya Rhin GP at Montjuich circuit, his car encountered engine problems after 20 out of 40 laps of the race, losing *five* laps, which is equivalent to 11 minutes to the new leader. Despite the impossibility of winning, Nuvolari drove even faster than anyone else, unlapping himself *three times* in the last 20 laps of the race, finishing in fifth place now *only* two laps behind!
Being Argentinian and liking cars we heard a LOT of stories about Fangio from the old-school journalists, specially during F-1 races back in the early 90's. Fangio around here is beyond a legend for the drivers. One fun fact, he was friend's with Ayrton Senna, so much that Senna came several times to visit Fangio, because Fangio was Senna's hero, there's a video where AS gives Fangio a signed poster of his McLarenca car with a signature that says something like "F1 champion 88', 90' and 91..." legend goes that he promised to come back every time he wins another championship to update that signature, but we all know what happend :-(, Fangio thought that Senna was the only capable of winning 5 championships, I think he wasn't wrong.
Thanks for the Vid Jimmer!
dergrunepunkt not a V-12 on Fangio’s August 4th 1957 car...you photos and dialogue were 👍🏻
"because Fangio was Senna's hero" False. Emerson Fittipaldi was Senna's "hero" while growing up. However adult Senna considered Jim Clark "The best of the best." Fangio himself rated Clark and Senna the best drivers after he retired. Senna visited Jim Clark's grave when he came to Europe for his racing career.
You can read this in an Autosport article:"Ayrton Senna who, shortly before his death, commissioned an oil painting by the Mexican artist Hugo Escobedo.
The canvas depicted Senna's ultimate 'fantasy' Grand Prix; an impression of the starting grid at Monaco featuring all of the greatest drivers in Formula One history.
Juan Fangio sits talking to mechanics at the wheel of his 1950 Alfa Romeo 158... alongside the Argentinian, Stirling Moss is seen climbing into the great hump-backed whale that was the Vanwall.... Jackie Stewart, all Sixties sideburns, pulls on his helmet in the cockpit of his Matra-Ford... Emerson Fittipaldi, the first of the great Brazilians, is there in an early McLaren... Niki Lauda in the classic Ferrari of '75... and Senna himself, of course, squeezed into the all-conquering McLaren-Honda with which he won the 1991 world driver's championship.
Senna made only two stipulations: a) there was to be no trace of Alain Prost, his bitter rival; and b) Escobedo could place the drivers in any formation he chose, providing Jim Clark filled pole position. "After all," said the Brazilian in a rare moment of modesty, "he was the best of the best".
Fangio and Moss worshipped him (Clark) as a young god, while Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin said by way of introduction: "I suppose you will be in awe of me, just as I am in awe of you."
Senna considered Jim Clark the best of the best but he saw Emerson Fittipaldi racing on tv when he was growing up and wanted to be like the Brazilian driver. Towards the end of his career Fittipaldi was trying to coax Senna to joining him in CART (Indycar) where he was doing really well despite being in his 40's. While he certainly admired Fangio and saw him as a legend his hero and great idol were not him.
I suppose Juan Fangio is to Argentina what Stirling Moss is to England
McLarenMercedes you are wrong, Ayrtom said very clearly in an interview that to him the best driver that ever existed and admired was JM Fangio
Ayrton came to Argentina many many times to visit Fangio due how much admiration Seena had.
As Fangio said at argentinan TV about this race:
"I took second gear turns in third gear and the third gear turns in four gear"
donde otros frenaban, el no frenaba tanto
@@alexxandros168 sin cinturón ni ayudas electrónicas como ABS. Unos huevos tremendos.
Does this mean Jimmy's MX5 is faster than a F1 car?
Yep
Yep
@Joe Cool No nobody!
The V12 version was rarely raced. Fangio raced the straight-6 through most of the 1957 season, including the epic German Grand Prix.
I cannot imagine what kind of talent and immense level of courage it took to drive cars of that era to the very limit.
Fangio said that in his 10 years in Europe, 30 pilots (yes, 30) have died....
This car to me proves why AC is so good, even with my notchy G29 on the PS4 I'm still able to experience the floaty handling of this car. Even with very basic FFB hardware AC is still able to let feel front axle load, the heavier weight of no power steering and the floatyness of the live axle that has pretty much "no weight" on it, even getting "auto steer" when drifting spot on. It does all of that while still offering road detail, doing that with hardware renown for lack of detail and smoothness, is just amazing to me. I can't imagine how awesome this (or any other car in AC) must feel to drive with a DD wheel.
If you wanna be me you gotta beat me
To be the man, you gotta beat the man!
But to finish first, you first have to finish
Stop posting and finish the damned season already Axelson!
When you watch a Jimmy Broadbent Video and then see your favorite retro racing youtuber commentating. :D
Glad your back making vid's GPLaps. :)
Thicc Jimmer in a Bath Tub with Mariokart exhausts squeels around The Paved Rally course called the Nurnburgring
thanks for the shout out at 10:20 haha
I've been waiting for this one, that car is a handful for sure. Nice driving.
The greats like fangio, stirling, really were racing legends you watch old 1955 gp videos on youtube and they look so smooth man
Thank you Jimmy, I always wanted to watch a video like this.
THiS is my favourite Jimmy content, when he races really old cars❤❤❤
Great stuff, Jimmy. I love the retro rides :)
I love some of these historical car drives, can feel the excitement in your voice! Then I get to go try them out for myself; really is amazing how VR makes it possible to bring us closer to experiencing something that we can't get to do in real life.
I must've heard Fangios story 2 dozen times and it gets better every time. Great video Jimmer!
How about the time he finished second at the 1951 German GP, despite the fact that the Alfa Romeo 159 Alfetta that he's driving had clutch problems later in the race, forcing him to do the rest of the race, _in fourth gear?_
Awesome video Jimmy, as per usual!
FERRARI F50 GT!
the8jrfan or f40 competizione, the turbo lag would be fun around a circuit like the nordschleife
Kiyan Marashi I agree
@@kiyanmarashi lol
Nice work and great history lesson Jimmy. 👍🏻
When your teacher leaves the mouse cursor on the video...
Awesome I have Fangios signature and it is a very prized possession, great to see a car he drove albeit sim being thrown around properly Cheers fella
These are my favorite series of videos
I have been waiting for this episode forever!!!!
Fangio is my favourite driver and i regard him as the best driver of all time
Great lap Jimmer, very infotaining.
Escudo Pikes Peak from Gran turismo 2 around nurbergring 👍🍻
He would need to do it in GT5 because i don't think there's a mod for AC
Nvm i found a couple of mods
lol yes
its amazing how far stuff like tires and brakes have come over the years that people might not think about.
That was a fun drive. Great piece of history
Now drive Rudi Caracciolas mad W125 around the Nordschleife which you can get as a mod...
It would have to be either in Automobilista or rF1. The AC mod is ripped and sold as payware without permission and has terrible physics.
@@Logan912You're right, in my opinion the physics aren't too bad but the rF mod is way better.
or rosemeyers auto union type c ;)
@@Logan912 simdream's mods, as well as those from many other AC "modders" are a scam. Thank you for being vocal about this.
The machines from 1936-1938 are not cars. They are light speed coffins. They don't brake, they don't steer. They spin the tyres on any gear. I love it.
this is the video i ve been waiting for :)
Stunning drive! I can feel every steering/throttle input youre making...normal people would never understand
Just about brought a tear to my eye. Amazing machines and also a testament to the bravery and skill of the men who drove them
Love how this car sounds. I see there is a BRM V16 soundmod. I would absolutely love to see you man-handle a V16 around this circuit. Keep up the great work on the vids Jimmer!
Glad you got to drive the car of our legend in f1. I'm from Argentina and Fangio still is an iconic figure for us.
hitted that like button Jimmers...waiting for sum AC GT3 online fun my friend. Cheers.
Great lap Jimmy! Really love these videos.
Next, I'd really like to see a Nordschleife lap in your R32 GTR (or at least a digital analog of it with similar mods/power) for comparison with your old MX5.
what the heck, its like you read my mind jimmy, i drove this car in ac a few days ago and was like: would be cool to see jimmy do this in his lap the nordschleife series xD
Greetings from Argentina. Thanks for the Video of Fangio
There's a video up here on YT of Fangio lapping the old Monaco layout with what were essentially two movie cameras set up on his car gopro style, and it's just amazing to watch.
Had to rush from Twitter to get to this. Glad I did.
Loved the history lesson, thanks
Very good video so we can understand the 4 wheels sliding style!
Fangio said that in order to beat constanbly the lap time, he was usind a higher gear than was common and that the car used to fly in some zones of the circuit.
When you think about the advance in technology between Fangio's time and now (2019), it's interesting to note that more time has passed between that 1957 race and now than between the very first Grand Prix race (France, 1906) and Fangio's famous run in 1957. It'd be interesting to be able to compare Ferenc Szisz's winning Renault from that 1906 Grand Prix with Fangio's Maserati.
Stunning machine. True legend.
relatively new to this channel, but love the content. got my first wheel (g29) around xmas :)
Amazing video Jimmy! The only detail is that he actually used the V6 version of this very same car. Just adding some info to the great remembrance you shared😊. Cheers mate!
I think it's amazing that your MX-5 and the Masarati have about the same lap time. Modern engineering indeed!
Fangio drove a Maserati 250F straight-six in the '57 German Grand Prix, not the V-12. Any number of photos clearly show the single-side exhaust and the opposite single-side scoop. In '57 Fangio snooped around the pits and saw that the Brits were taking full fuel loads and were therefore going to try and do the whole race with no pit stop. So, he took half-a-race of fuel and planned to get a good lead(30 second), take on just enough fuel to finish and fresh tires. The brilliant part was that all cars would have the same fuel load for the remainder, but he would be on fresh tires and come out on to the track at about the time the Brits came by. He should therefore eat them up in the rest of the race. It IS known why his stop took nearly 60-seconds instead of 30. One of the wheel lugs went under the car and it took 30-seconds to find it. Can you imagine a whole crew of Italians looking for a lost part during a race? Would give a whole new dimension to "Chinese fire drill". Fangio came out nearly 30 seconds behind instead of even. He made up the difference in an epic drive to win.
Que alegría me diste al ver un video con un auto de Fangio . Saludos desde argentina 🤙
Fangio uno de los más grandes de la historia, greetings from Argentina!
I remember watching this race, my first F1 race in 1957.The German Grand Prix. I was very impressed with Fangio as he drove like my Step Grandpa! 4-wheel brake drifts at 150MPH! What big, hairy brass ones this guy had! Especially with those skinny Dunlop's that were de Reguera in those days. By 1959, when I was 3 years old, he won his 5th world driving championship. It took Michael Schumacher some 45 years to equal his record.
Man that makes me want to get back into sim racing so bad. I actually learned the Nordschleife in a 1967 Lotus Type 49 Cosworth in Project Cars 2, insanely fun to drive. All those old cars are.
Props for saying Juan Manuel correctly :)
I’m literally doing this very same thing right now WHILE watching this haha my hats off to you brother lol it’s craziness how wild this car is on this track! Mind blowing! 😂 you are WAYYYY better than me!
Great video!!!
Great Video!
Great driver, specially for me since Im Argetinean! you NEED to research more about Fangio, he had an amazing career, for me THE best driver ever (Im a bit biased of course haha)! so happy to see this, thank you Jimmy!!
Not a gamer, just an old gen x 80s f1 fan, but I really enjoy your content. Passion, knowledge and great driving
Fangio's epic German GP drive is available on youtube. Amazing drive.
WELL DONE ! THATS WAS FUN !
what is amazing about the cars is that drivers have to perform a controlled drift to get as much as possible and also because of the narrowness of the tyre
man well driven. This thing handles like a boat
Jimmer, 155 DTM around Nord maybe, possibly, please?
I hate how Kunos balanced the 155 to match the Group A cars despite the 155 being a much faster ITC car in real life.
@@Logan912 Just a personal opinion, but even with my mouse steering and no pedals, that 155 can be setup considerably faster than the E30 Gr. A, and that E30 even has ABS (which can really help if you have no pedals)
If I'm not mistaken, I remember Jimmer saying once that the 155 killed DTM by starting that extreme downforce trend. I think, if the 155 managed even more performance, Assetto's DTM racing would be just 155 class on top followed by the E30 class drivers tryharding to catch them, and then the Merc 190 class eating all kinds of shit and dust at the back.
That said, I'd love a 155 with GT3 performance levels. Most soulful touring car ever.
I kinda notice you're driving more like a rally car than what we usually see for an f1 car. Great video!
that looks like so much fun
The person that owns the actual car brought it to the FCA event at Road Atlanta about 15 years ago. We had pit passes.. the mechanic was getting it prepared to go out on the track. He was impressed we knew what it was. We were checking out the mechanicals. It has original patina. He looks at us and says “Go ahead sit in it it’s meant to be enjoyed.. it smelled of old grease and leather.
Love your vids governor gets to watch a good sim racer give a history lesson while driving then after you vids i go and research more on the cars and drivers.
P.S. Australian V8 supercar around green hell maybe unless of corse thats what the Commodore is
Bathtub is a good comparison. These guys were actually just sitting in big aluminum petrol tanks with lots of magnesium alloy bits attached. If it burst into flames (often) it went up in a crazy white hot blaze, hotter than damnation itself. If they were lucky they were thrown clear and only horribly maimed. Oh and they were wearing t shirts and pleated pants with a tin pot on a their heads. It would have been cool if you had dressed the part. These were the golden years of auto racing. My favourite.
I love driving these cars. Super managable and progressive slip, but also very busy, lots of wheel work. Really know nothing about these cars other than from driving them in Assetto Corsa, but would LOVE to see someone drive one at 10/10ths with a head mounted Go pro IRL. Think it would make the most exciting driving footage ever
I love driving the 250F on AC!
These men were the real deal.
My buddy and I both have simulators. I still love Assetto Corsa but he prefers project cars. I thought I might be weird liking this "older" game but I think it just drives great! After finding your channel I like it even more. I just downloaded my first mods on it last night. Great game! Thanks for the videos!
Assetto Corsa is actually the better sim. From what I've heard, PC is a simcade
Mate, PCars looks amazing and has amazing content. That's it. Assetto allows you to learn racing and actually get faster and keener.
You know what my experience with PCars is? The fucking game doing automatic opposite lock in the most sluggish, vague, random manner every time the car has a little moment, putting me offtrack every time. The fucking game deciding for you how much throttle you're actually inputting. The fucking game putting rain on every race because it looks pretty even if it screws you with absurdly senseless aquaplaining misery. The fucking AI ramming you in the middle of a rolling start to cause penalties.
I can feel and place and control a car and understand it's details properly on Assetto even without a wheel and pedals. PCars, on the other hand, is unplayable without a decent rig. It's probably fun to dominate PCars's hard controls, but for now it's more a bunch of frustrating spins from it's mediocre sticky physics than a bunch of terrifying fun when trying to get the car you fancy to the limit.
It's not like AC is perfect either. Better than Project Cars 2? Maybe in some aspects, but it still pales in comparison to rFactor 2 and Automobilista at least with how the cars drive. The tires and brakes in AC feel so off in most cars and require practice just to get used to the sim itself after taking a break unlike AMS and rF2 where I can always jump right in and everything makes sense and feels right. Not to mention AC's ffb isn't great either. Also, AC's AI is no better than PC2 (both are equally the worst of modern sim AI,) but at least AC isn't as buggy.
However, AC has lots of great mods, supports VR (Automobilista doesn't,) and the new shader mod is nice.
PC2 isn't simcade. Make no mistake that's a full-blown sim. However, the accuracy of the simulation can be questionable at times. Personally, there are times when I really enjoy PC2 as well as times when I hate it. By all accounts, it *should* be the best sim, but it just has too many things holding it back.
@@mcgherkinstudios High horsepower cars stall all the time in real life racing mostly because the clutches are so small and lightweight, and they can be very finicky on launch.
In AC however, it's impossible to stall the engine in *any* car whether it's H-pattern or sequential. I've tried.
@@mcgherkinstudios I'll have to try it again then because I've never stalled in PC2 while banging off the limiter.
One thing I will say that I hate about PC2's physics is that your car will immediately spin around if you even think about touching the grass or a curb with no chance to save it. It would realistically upset the car and you would have to react quickly, but PC2 is ridiculous. It's like the curbs have magnets under them.
Would be nice to have an early version of the track itself, this modern one is quite a lot different than the original layout, nice work jimmy 😉
You should have done this test on the old Nordschleife layout from the 60s. You can find the mod online.
It's good for you to be back yesterday
Love the shoutout to GPLaps!
Really cool!
I liked this video before it even started!
Awesome video. Fangio has been noted that he liked the straight 6 version better
You nailed the name the first time. I'm used to hear people say his surname as "fanjo" like in banjo, which is wrong
Fun fact about these old cars: the front wheels were usually cambered positive, ie the tops leaning outwards. Obviously they had no power steering, so the giant steering wheel and positive camber helped the drivers to be able to turn the front wheels and get sliding into corners.
Magical experience!!!
The ASCENDED recording strats with the cursor in the corner
Fangio seguira siendo el mejor de todos los tiempos
EL MAESTRO
Hehehe thumbs up for the GP laps reference
9:14.4 was Fangio's fastest lap in that GP. It was already 8 seconds faster than the lap time that gave him the pole.
Race this on the Monza Oval. That's one hell of an experience. Cant begin to imagine how it will be in VR.
Great to see you on Marc Priestley's channel the other day Jimmer! You should have taken him out in Minty though :D
In his famous race at the Nürburgring in 1957, Fangio was driving the 6 cilinder Maserati.
My man has better commentary than 99% of f1 commentators
Looking at this it kinda reminds me of rally, you mostly try to throw it into corners relatively early and are just trying to keep it straight most of the time