lol this these arguments about motocross vs enduro are hilarious, the difference is a set of lights and a battery,, that's it. People really acting like ktm, honda, kawi etc out here making enduro/mx specific engines. Not unless you're on the factory team mate.
I got a heavy ass GSA... But gosh do i have a good time getting better and practicing.. yes it's limited and a PIA when i drop it.. but.. still fun and i can take for a 1000 miles highway cruise.
Track bike works great for those types of trails you are on, but for tight woods riding you need an enduro bike, or at least it will make the ride much more enjoyable. Enduro bikes have better fuel capacity, suspension setups, and gearing. At the end of the day it’s about getting out and having fun, and one isn’t better than the other, they are just meant for different things. No need for the clickbait.
Not true! I ride a crf 450r on technical single track every ride and i enjoy it more than my previous ktm 300. The honda is the overall better bike for the 50/50 mix of single and more open tracks and it's more reliable.
An enduro bike is a motocross bike, usually with a heavier flywheel and gearing setup for trail riding. If you want to ride deep sand, steep hills and gnarly trails ride an enduro bike.
There is no comparison. Motocross bikes lack a heavier flywheel and will stall in technical stuff, and also lack adequate cooling for slow speed riding.
I enduro a 450 sxf and i use so much clutch it scares me but i have to otherwise it will stall but besides that its a lot of fun and it has its pros when the trail has an opening
On open stuff like this ,yeah anything will work good. Take it in some nasty rocky snotty root technical terrain and a woods set up will reward you 💯. But, whatever floats your boat ✌🏼✊🏻
Right, unless it’s pure trials stuff like straight up rocks…but on trails a good rider can adapt to any style off road bike with reasonable exceptions. Because of experience, I can take a twenty year old KDX 200 and and hang completely with this guy or some guy on a new trials bike.
Would’ve done it so much better. Would’ve crawled right up most everything he went up. MX bikes you just gotta have momentum for everything, enduro bikes.. not so much. To an extent.
Yeah there's a reason why I'm a B class rider on a 2023 GPX FSE 300R enduro that's averaging faster harescramble lap times than my A class cousin on his CRF250R MX bike with both of us on MX 33s. It's called better suspension setup. MX bike suspension is firmer to absorb jumps better while Enduro bikes have softer suspension setup to deal with rocks, roots, and rough surfaces. My bike has 37hp and it weighs 256lbs on a scale, my Cousin's 250R makes 39hp and weighs 238lbs on a scale my gearing is also longer with both of us on 13/51 tooth sprockets which allows me to stay in gear longer while my cousin needs to shift more. On a nice packed dirt surface like a MX track sure, that extra punch due to shorter gearing will help you accelerate better, but here in the soft deep sand too much wheelspin makes you dig more than you claw and slows you down. At Mondon Hill, Brooksville I was over 3 minutes faster over the course of 45ish miles despite being a lower bracket and my cousin is definitely the better rider despite how competitive I am. When I'm on an MX track within 20 minutes he's lapping me and I can't do anything about it
I have owned 31 Mx motorcycles and two enduros.Under 60 years old Mx ,over 60 enduro is better.It’s a softer ride.Bad back,bad knee,bad wrist,bad shoulder but brain is ok.
Most if not all ktm/husky/gasgas dual sports are set up for enduro, the same cat be said for any of the jap brands as the dual sports are unbelievably heavy
Are they better? Not really. Are they better in a specific use case? Yes, sure they are. Every kind of bike is suited for a specific use scenario, so the best kind of bike depends on what you're using it for.
I've never had an Enduro. I had a kx 500 and an rmx 250. Rode alot of desert and hit the track twice a week for a couple years. Enduro looks fun but, wfo in the desert is more fun. In my opinion.
Only dirt bike I have at the moment is a kx125. Think I would do fine riding it in the trails?? They’re not super open, flowy trails, but also aren’t super tight and technical
A 125 is really meant for the track but you can ride it on the trails too. It’s a little easier with the right tires and sprockets (geared down). You can also add weight to the flywheel to help prevent stalling.
@@josephhamilton5185 You’re welcome I hope it helps. Have fun out there and wear the best gear you can get. Especially helmet,gloves and boots. Injuries in the middle of nowhere really suck!
I’ll admit that it’s been a long time since I have ridden. Back in the day, I had a YZ125 that I basically used as an enduro. It was a good enough bike for that purpose. But there was one thing I HATED about it: no lighting. I always liked the idea of riding at night, but couldn’t. I eventually bought a headlamp and powered it with a small motorcycle battery. But runtime was pathetic. Unfortunately, there was no way to upgrade at the time, and I thought about trying all kinds of crazy stuff. But I was never able to find a good solution by the time I sold the bike. Not sure what kinds of options are available (if any) for modern motocross bikes.
So... not everyone wants to ride that hard. Some of us want to "enjoy the view". You get a true Enduro Bike and you can climb FAR better than one of those, at an easier pace. Not to mention, Enduro Bikes are built better and can withstand far more abuse. Just ask any true motorcycle mechanic who knows both bikes and they will educate you.
Mx bikes were all we had when I was a kid and you just went and did everything with it. My modern beta is pretty nice except when I hit the gas without realizing that I've turned on the traction control and nothing happens.
I'm only seeing a snappy mx bike struggling to keep traction in the woods lol. I've rode mx bikes in the woods for over 20 years and finally went to a 250xc then beta 300rr now a sherco and mx bikes 100 percent are not better in any way for the woods. Better for motocross but thats literally it
Ain’t nothing better than tearin it up on a motocross bike to the sounds of Led Zeppelin then jumpin in the creek, hot diggity dog, that’s gold I tell ya, GOLD! 🤙🏼
That might be the coolest dirtbike short ever! Awesome. Woods and trails are way more fun than motocross with a slightly reduced chance of breaking your neck.
Depends what you do. There’s a lot of things a mx bike can do in the woods, and there’s a lot of things a woods bike can do- not quite in mx, but around the scene P.S. pack your exhaust.
It was a no brainer to turn a Mx bike (YZ250) into a woods bike rather than trying to get the 250X to run like I wanted it too. The only thing I really need that the 250X has is the wide ratio gearing. But that’s just 3rd-5th gear so 1 and 2 are no different anyway. So far it’s working pretty good other than having to be wound out in the high gears on long stretches. It would be better if I could bring the R’s down a little when I’m riding from trail to trail.
All i wanna is what do you guys recommend for me. We got 600ha farm and i need some type of what we call in zimbabwe a farm bike I need it for patrolling the farm as well being able carry my wife and i on the farm and moving to our favourite spot which is 100kms away What bike you all recommend. No nothing like a BMW but i mean engine dize for 2 or enduro or Mx Thanks
I would love to know what you’re referring to when you compare MX with Enduro bikes. I ride my old exc 250 with sx head, piston, cdi, gnarly pipe etc and now my exc 300 with similar mods (both carb 2T’s) just like you do in your video. Before these bikes I’ve had, Kx80, Kx125, Rm250 not to mention road bikes like Zx636r. Are you saying my Kx’s and Rm are better than the Exc 250 and 300 on the trails? I’m in the Uk btw so have more reasons than in US to have Enduro I.e Mx completely illegal unless on a track.
Everyone I ride with that has a track bike is constantly fighting problems out on the trail, I'm not as fast and I don't sound as cool but my bike starts everytime and does everything the track bikes do out on the trail...except overheat. 😅
The thought of seeing my Honda 250 sit in the basement collecting dust after this surgery was just too much. I traded it for a street legal bike for my son. He isn’t old enough yet but it will be a much better feeling when I go into the basement. Stay muddy my friend.
Well, the gearing is TOTALLY different. A flywheel weight is essential in the woods. Plus, suspension. And if you were riding a tighter trail, you'd want different gearing. :)
All my buddy's and us use motorcross bikes for trails. They open up a lot better. Never had a issue. But we don't take slow trails either so we have a chance opening up are bikes.
Doesn't matter what you ride, it's all about the Skills.. my geared-down, Sumo/Enduro, might not be as wild on the track-trail, but I can get out on the street, too! (Legally ready)😅
Rmz 450 would overheat on tight single track and suspension was way too stiff and geared way to high. Got a beta 500 rr-s dual sport now. Best choice I ever made
Actually Enduro bikes require a different suspension set up. But just set it on full soft compression and a few clicks of rebound and you're good to go trail blasting with your Dad ,or your budds.
Those trails looked way easy. You could rip an xr100 on that and haul ass. If you try actual hard enduro trails you'd see why you would want an enduro bike. I've ridden motocross bikes on shit like that, and trust me. Having flywheel weight is a nice thing to have on steep singletrack hills.
Enduro bikes are just geared taller, phatter cooling system and a heavy a extended tank. Change the sprockets to gear taller on a motocross bike and it'd keep up.
I love the part where he told us why
I have started a mini war between motocross and enduro riders
He just showed us
@@Uh_George what did he show us, enduro bikes can do everything he did in the video
@@Pixstalboinot a good mate and plus motor cross bikes are way lighter don’t have head lights and stuff and usually more powerful
@@Unclej1mmy_ i know what you guys are saying, but take an enduro bike into some actually gnarly stuff and you'll be rewarded
@@Pixstalboi ye I ride enduro mate
I don’t think he knows what enduro is
@@cameronturner7077the hell r you talking about 😂😂
@@Eteen12 he's talking about the truth...
@@Eteen12this isn’t enduro it’s easy trail riding that’s what he’s saying
@@Eteen12you obviously do not have a clue what Enduro is.
Ye, it's like saying "this is why a spoon is better than a fork" while eating soup.😅
On tight technical trails I've seen motocross bikes overheat pretty bad. They're meant for speed and wind.
I just watched the red bull Enduro trial competition from earlier this year in the eastern tennessee Mountains. All 2 strokes lol
4 stokes definitely, 2 bangers no problem!!!
@@catalyst429 2 stroke enduro bikes
@@catalyst429 yeah, all 2 stroke enduro bikes my guy
Not true
People love to worry about what they're riding instead of actually riding and getting better.
indeed
Right on bro👊
lol this these arguments about motocross vs enduro are hilarious, the difference is a set of lights and a battery,, that's it. People really acting like ktm, honda, kawi etc out here making enduro/mx specific engines. Not unless you're on the factory team mate.
@@fenix849 uhhhh.......
Suspension?
Granny ratio?
2 primary differing facets that make or brake performance.
I got a heavy ass GSA... But gosh do i have a good time getting better and practicing.. yes it's limited and a PIA when i drop it.. but.. still fun and i can take for a 1000 miles highway cruise.
Track bike works great for those types of trails you are on, but for tight woods riding you need an enduro bike, or at least it will make the ride much more enjoyable. Enduro bikes have better fuel capacity, suspension setups, and gearing. At the end of the day it’s about getting out and having fun, and one isn’t better than the other, they are just meant for different things. No need for the clickbait.
Don't forget the headlight on the enduro vs a motorcross bike!...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸👋🤠
Yeah this guy has no idea what a hard enduro trail looks like.
I have a crf150r, i do some trails and also ones where you can firebomb it through the woods, i also ride on some mx tracks, its so fun
@@elijsearle only you care
Not true! I ride a crf 450r on technical single track every ride and i enjoy it more than my previous ktm 300. The honda is the overall better bike for the 50/50 mix of single and more open tracks and it's more reliable.
An enduro bike is a motocross bike, usually with a heavier flywheel and gearing setup for trail riding. If you want to ride deep sand, steep hills and gnarly trails ride an enduro bike.
Those are all open flowing trails Brody
80% rider 20% bike
Yes and no.
Do you know why it is what it is?
Because it ain't what it ain't!!!
Thank you!
99% rider 1%bike
@@mikedonlon1594
Your statement greatly undermines the importance of suspension.
Man will not stop making sick hard Enduro videos keep doing what you are doing man
this aint hard enduro but i agree its good videos
This aint even light enduro
@@zachzimmer6922 No one cares
Bro that’s like a tame cross country trail wym 😂
There is no comparison. Motocross bikes lack a heavier flywheel and will stall in technical stuff, and also lack adequate cooling for slow speed riding.
I enduro a 450 sxf and i use so much clutch it scares me but i have to otherwise it will stall but besides that its a lot of fun and it has its pros when the trail has an opening
Not to mention the harder suspension which will wear you out on an event
There is no reason motocross bikes are better than Enduro bikes a Enduro bike could have done just as good if not better
On open stuff like this ,yeah anything will work good. Take it in some nasty rocky snotty root technical terrain and a woods set up will reward you 💯. But, whatever floats your boat ✌🏼✊🏻
In this video there’s no reason but there’s multiple outside of this vid
Right, unless it’s pure trials stuff like straight up rocks…but on trails a good rider can adapt to any style off road bike with reasonable exceptions. Because of experience, I can take a twenty year old KDX 200 and and hang completely with this guy or some guy on a new trials bike.
Would’ve done it so much better. Would’ve crawled right up most everything he went up. MX bikes you just gotta have momentum for everything, enduro bikes.. not so much. To an extent.
@@sirjibsalot8910 Is that all?🤔
Anyone wondering Im running a Kenda Washougal II in rear and Washougal III up front
I love the vids keep it up!!
Literally just bought washougal 2 front and rear earlier today with the tubliss system
@liamreid let’s see you ride actual hard enduro not leisurely trails.
Yeah there's a reason why I'm a B class rider on a 2023 GPX FSE 300R enduro that's averaging faster harescramble lap times than my A class cousin on his CRF250R MX bike with both of us on MX 33s. It's called better suspension setup. MX bike suspension is firmer to absorb jumps better while Enduro bikes have softer suspension setup to deal with rocks, roots, and rough surfaces. My bike has 37hp and it weighs 256lbs on a scale, my Cousin's 250R makes 39hp and weighs 238lbs on a scale my gearing is also longer with both of us on 13/51 tooth sprockets which allows me to stay in gear longer while my cousin needs to shift more. On a nice packed dirt surface like a MX track sure, that extra punch due to shorter gearing will help you accelerate better, but here in the soft deep sand too much wheelspin makes you dig more than you claw and slows you down. At Mondon Hill, Brooksville I was over 3 minutes faster over the course of 45ish miles despite being a lower bracket and my cousin is definitely the better rider despite how competitive I am. When I'm on an MX track within 20 minutes he's lapping me and I can't do anything about it
I have owned 31 Mx motorcycles and two enduros.Under 60 years old Mx ,over 60 enduro is better.It’s a softer ride.Bad back,bad knee,bad wrist,bad shoulder but brain is ok.
Now take it on some enduro trails and tecky climbs on them mx tyres and tubes
I like how he parked his bike. I used to do that 40 years ago with my CR 250 , just dig a hole with the back tire then you have a kickstand. 😊
I don’t know anything about dirt bikes could you make a video of the different types of dirt bikes and their differences?
There's only 2 difference's 1, 2 strokes 2nd 4 strokes.
Trials, Motocross, enduro, dual sport, adventure you can use Google😂
Theres a lot more differences than just 2 and four stroke, there's racing and trail, liquid cooled and air cooled, and a lot more
Please be respectful of our time. Research on your own if truly interested. As you continue in life, remember not to be a burden to others.
@@DigitalConfusion1fail to see how them asking a question on a youtube video is burdening others, people are allowed to ask questions
I feel like people don’t know the difference between enduro and dual sport
Most if not all ktm/husky/gasgas dual sports are set up for enduro, the same cat be said for any of the jap brands as the dual sports are unbelievably heavy
The last jump tho 😂 man you’re awesome please keep going
It’s not for putsing around! Torque!!! Power!!!
That Led Zeppelin song goes awesome with the sound of that 2 stroke
Song is bring it on home -Led Zeppelin
i have an 125 two stroke and that even bike scares me sometimes let alone the idea of a 250 two stroke. that shit is nuts
I have a question, I never don motocross riding, so does it take any special training like going to the gym?
Suspension is a rock
Are they better? Not really. Are they better in a specific use case? Yes, sure they are. Every kind of bike is suited for a specific use scenario, so the best kind of bike depends on what you're using it for.
_I _*_looooooove_*_ this bikes !!!_
Wow that cornfield looks challenging.
My enduro bike has a wide ratio transmission and lights. How exactly does that keep it from doing what is shown in this video?
Whats gear do u ride with
I've never had an Enduro. I had a kx 500 and an rmx 250. Rode alot of desert and hit the track twice a week for a couple years. Enduro looks fun but, wfo in the desert is more fun. In my opinion.
It rips 😎
*goes for a normal trail ride...
Only dirt bike I have at the moment is a kx125. Think I would do fine riding it in the trails?? They’re not super open, flowy trails, but also aren’t super tight and technical
A 125 is really meant for the track but you can ride it on the trails too. It’s a little easier with the right tires and sprockets (geared down). You can also add weight to the flywheel to help prevent stalling.
@@jackd2083 thanks man!
@@josephhamilton5185
You’re welcome I hope it helps. Have fun out there and wear the best gear you can get. Especially helmet,gloves and boots. Injuries in the middle of nowhere really suck!
I’ll admit that it’s been a long time since I have ridden. Back in the day, I had a YZ125 that I basically used as an enduro. It was a good enough bike for that purpose. But there was one thing I HATED about it: no lighting. I always liked the idea of riding at night, but couldn’t. I eventually bought a headlamp and powered it with a small motorcycle battery. But runtime was pathetic. Unfortunately, there was no way to upgrade at the time, and I thought about trying all kinds of crazy stuff. But I was never able to find a good solution by the time I sold the bike. Not sure what kinds of options are available (if any) for modern motocross bikes.
Having both is best. Love my enduro bike .. my adventure bike .. street bike .. sport bike …. Atv utv … life is good
Led Zeppelin background music? Good stuff. 🎉🎉🎉
That’s also what I need for my day man; Ripping trails and Led Zeppelin 🪽
So... not everyone wants to ride that hard. Some of us want to "enjoy the view". You get a true Enduro Bike and you can climb FAR better than one of those, at an easier pace. Not to mention, Enduro Bikes are built better and can withstand far more abuse. Just ask any true motorcycle mechanic who knows both bikes and they will educate you.
250 is the way to go ! Pulse it sounds mean ripping up them hills
Bro everybody needs to stop hating on this guy he just doing what he loves and having fun and that’s all that matters and it’s good content
Yup, he beez a mad dawg! Yup.
Mx bikes were all we had when I was a kid and you just went and did everything with it. My modern beta is pretty nice except when I hit the gas without realizing that I've turned on the traction control and nothing happens.
I'm only seeing a snappy mx bike struggling to keep traction in the woods lol. I've rode mx bikes in the woods for over 20 years and finally went to a 250xc then beta 300rr now a sherco and mx bikes 100 percent are not better in any way for the woods. Better for motocross but thats literally it
Thanks for the music ❤
my KDXs disagree with everything u didnt say...
I promise you weight is the most important aspect to enduro and kdx is well overweight
@@mikedonlon1594no it’s not haha.
What’s the best bike for jumps AND trails? I really wanna send it
Ain’t nothing better than tearin it up on a motocross bike to the sounds of Led Zeppelin then jumpin in the creek, hot diggity dog, that’s gold I tell ya, GOLD! 🤙🏼
That might be the coolest dirtbike short ever! Awesome. Woods and trails are way more fun than motocross with a slightly reduced chance of breaking your neck.
Ayyy all ktm and husqvarna fans belong down there
👇
I love how he picks the most crappy days for riding!
It makes the video a whole lot more fun to watch though💯👍
Ain’t Nothing Any Better!!! Just a little of rain not to much makes the ground’s perfect for riding!!!
Depends what you do. There’s a lot of things a mx bike can do in the woods, and there’s a lot of things a woods bike can do- not quite in mx, but around the scene
P.S. pack your exhaust.
It was a no brainer to turn a Mx bike (YZ250) into a woods bike rather than trying to get the 250X to run like I wanted it too. The only thing I really need that the 250X has is the wide ratio gearing. But that’s just 3rd-5th gear so 1 and 2 are no different anyway. So far it’s working pretty good other than having to be wound out in the high gears on long stretches. It would be better if I could bring the R’s down a little when I’m riding from trail to trail.
brother, do you know what an enduro is???
Awesome short brother!
All i wanna is what do you guys recommend for me. We got 600ha farm and i need some type of what we call in zimbabwe a farm bike
I need it for patrolling the farm as well being able carry my wife and i on the farm and moving to our favourite spot which is 100kms away
What bike you all recommend. No nothing like a BMW but i mean engine dize for 2 or enduro or Mx
Thanks
I would love to know what you’re referring to when you compare MX with Enduro bikes. I ride my old exc 250 with sx head, piston, cdi, gnarly pipe etc and now my exc 300 with similar mods (both carb 2T’s) just like you do in your video. Before these bikes I’ve had, Kx80, Kx125, Rm250 not to mention road bikes like Zx636r. Are you saying my Kx’s and Rm are better than the Exc 250 and 300 on the trails? I’m in the Uk btw so have more reasons than in US to have Enduro I.e Mx completely illegal unless on a track.
Those riding skills were as smooth as Tennessee whiskey
Awesome ride and an excellent tune
Dude is living the dream
I wish I had friends that wanted to go riding I own 133 acres and can't get my friends from home to go out there I hate it I need new friends
Everyone I ride with that has a track bike is constantly fighting problems out on the trail, I'm not as fast and I don't sound as cool but my bike starts everytime and does everything the track bikes do out on the trail...except overheat. 😅
how many hours does that thing have on it
from the sound it's definitely fresh . nice sounding 2 stroke
2 strokes are just fun to ride. Love my trx250r
The thought of seeing my Honda 250 sit in the basement collecting dust after this surgery was just too much. I traded it for a street legal bike for my son. He isn’t old enough yet but it will be a much better feeling when I go into the basement. Stay muddy my friend.
I have a 250 motorcross bike, and i only ride trials in the mountains
I think you would really like a XC style model, Motorcross engine with woods suspension and a larger tank. Best of both worlds
Yep I use my rm144 kx250/kx500 for trail riding in new Zealand 🇳🇿 💛💚🤘
PA is so beautiful this time of year dude
Well, the gearing is TOTALLY different. A flywheel weight is essential in the woods. Plus, suspension. And if you were riding a tighter trail, you'd want different gearing. :)
All my buddy's and us use motorcross bikes for trails. They open up a lot better. Never had a issue. But we don't take slow trails either so we have a chance opening up are bikes.
The KTM XC line is the winner in the trail. Has the SX (Motocross) engine but its setup for woods racing.
This is strait up facts
and why are Motocross Bikes better than Enduro Bikes?
Man sacrificed his boots and helmet (when he jumped in the water) to make an awesome video, keep up the great work man!
Doesn't matter what you ride, it's all about the Skills.. my geared-down, Sumo/Enduro, might not be as wild on the track-trail, but I can get out on the street, too! (Legally ready)😅
I saw a motocross bike take a dump 50 miles in on a 1500 mile trip to Cabo.
The only difference is... Enduro are made to keep running for longer times vs motocross who can blown any ride, the truck is close to the track😅😂😂
My 99 cr250 is so much fun to rip on the trails, I mean I’m usually only riding on the rear tire, but gets her done!
i think any bike works for trails like that. but once you actually get into the enduro stuff, enduro bikes definitely take the win
It’s almost like it’s what they are built for
Bring it on home!!!!
I was looking for this comment haha lol
@@Fx.Dx.420such a good song
But…. How did you get there?
Rmz 450 would overheat on tight single track and suspension was way too stiff and geared way to high. Got a beta 500 rr-s dual sport now. Best choice I ever made
Bro just found out he likes enduro riding
Best part, that creek entry!
Actually Enduro bikes require a different suspension set up. But just set it on full soft compression and a few clicks of rebound and you're good to go trail blasting with your Dad ,or your budds.
Those trails looked way easy. You could rip an xr100 on that and haul ass. If you try actual hard enduro trails you'd see why you would want an enduro bike. I've ridden motocross bikes on shit like that, and trust me. Having flywheel weight is a nice thing to have on steep singletrack hills.
Sweet riding, awesome video! but can you please give some actual reasons? im very curious about this topic, gonna check ur channel for a vid about it
I think both type of riders are Amazing
4 stroke and 2 strokes are both good we should respect them both😂😂
Bro that’s bad ass 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ahhhh sheet Pooph ❤ Dats what’s up 🆙 up!!! ❤ Great video bro ❤️ Dats getn N da Pit 2fity w Style!❤
Agree 100%
Skipped the 15 hour service intervals
That looked like a lot of fun
getting a new dirtbike soon am so excited
That looks like exactly what performance enduro bike are made for?
Bro that's bad ass ! Keep ripping 🙏
My bro has a KTM SX-F 450 4 stroke Motocross! He likes it better than an enduro...
I love the ending part shower in the morning😂
Enduro bikes are just geared taller, phatter cooling system and a heavy a extended tank. Change the sprockets to gear taller on a motocross bike and it'd keep up.