I think the Karen's death storyline stunk. They should have just had Karen and Jagger get married and just let them sail off into the sunset with their storyline. I don't like some of the storylines that they come up with.
@@naomijonas1553 it was Karen mother fault, if she had an audacity to tell Scott that Karen is his daughter he would be there for her, and so it was the mother’s fault not scott
SCOTT has always been an ambulance-chasing clown. His only claim to respectability is that he was LEE BALDWIN’S son. And he feel well short of his father’s example.
@@joiisler8986 Not in this scene. In this scene he was the honorable father and Sonny was the scum punk who didn't give a damn about that girl, He just wanted to make a buck from her stripping. Sonny was the real clown
Oh, cool... thanks. Maybe you can help me with another episode. I'm trying to find the clip where Helena and Luke have a slight confrontation and Helena tells Luke that she wants to rid the world of all the spencer's.. on down from Laura, Lucky, Leslie Lou and Leslie.. and then goes on to name Bobbie, and Carly... and even Carly's son, Michael. "you do know who Michael is, don't you, Luke"?? Luke gasp and looks at Helena in pure shock. This was back in the late 90's when Michael was a todler.
where is the video where Karen Wexler and Joe Scanlon (from port charles) confronts Sonny on the docks about the time when he hooked her on drugs. In that scene, Jason pulls a gun on Joe and threatens to shoot him because Joe was about to attack Sonny. I think Robin intervened and sided with Sonny and Jason against Karen and Joe. But it ended positively. Powerful scenes to Sonny's and Karen's history. I cant find it.. it happened after the nurses ball in the last week of june 1998.
Yes, I have seen it. They made Karen say she made all the decisions, but as a high school student -- she was still underaged. Sonny still gave her the drugs, had her strip, and later slept with him. He didn't force her - but he was the adult - she was underaged. I thought that scene was strange seeing at one time Karen and Robin were BFFs. When Karen married Jagger - Robin was her maid of honor. I like to pretend that the Jagger/Karen story-line ended after their reception. They ruined the Jagger/Karen story when they brought her back and later killed her. Jagger came back for a brief while later with his son Stone who Robin helped because young Stone had Autism.
Karen should have never been killed off. She was a good character unlike so many of these teenagers starting on the show today we don't recognize who they are
@@kristagerry8505 Right, & PC didn't start off as a vamp show. When they veered over to the supernatural part, it changed everything. I saw them as 2 separate shows
I wasn’t able to watch at this time no DVR lol. How did it come around that Karen was Scott’s daughter? It also turned out Franco was his son also right. And wasn’t there another son? I’m thinking this all had to have been after Laura. Scott did get around.
You should search “GH Carson 2002” it will take you back to some of the best General hospital storylines ever written. It’s Sonny and Carly along with Jason and so many other characters. 2002-2003
So Sonny's story is he slept with an underage girl who he knew was the victim of sexuel abuse had her strip in his nightclub, and gave her drugs because he cared about her. 😅 Rolling my eyes. 😂
I was so little that I don’t remember Karen I don’t even know who this is and I don’t know the story too well about Sunny and Karen and his clubs or somebody fill me in
What Sonny did to Karen back then how come Robin or Jason didn’t do anything to help her? Robin & Jason we’re friends to Karen as teenagers with Stone, Jagger & Brenda so why did let Sonny had Karen worked for him when she was a stripper at his club? I forgot what’s the history back then
Brenda and Robin followed Karen to the strip club. Jagger tried to help Karen. Actually Stone tried to help Karen, but he is the one that originally introduced Karen to Sonny. Alan Quartermaine helped Karen after he caught her stealing drugs at hospital. He got her into therapy with Gail (who we didn't know was her step-grandmother at the time). Alan ended up paying for Karen's medical school expenses. Karen had dated Jason when he was still Jason Q not Jason Morgan. She broke up with him because she was in love with Jagger.
Kaiser Ramesis…….I disagree with your comment……..Sonny is more real and loyal and honest than anyone of them in PC……..and that’s despite his faults…….now I hope your not one of those that fly off the handle when someone disagrees with them……..I’ve encountered some of those here…..I respect your comment.
@@sandrajohnson4778 I think we are all entitled to our opinions. I think that Sonny is very loyal to his children, but not so much to other people. He is a mobster - which is not a good thing no matter how TV/GH spins it. When Sonny came to GH/PC or at least we first seen him - he was grooming high school student Karen Wexler with drugs to be a stripper at the Paradise Lounge. I know almost everyone on GH and in PC has done bad things - but when Karen was brought back with new actress a few years later -- Sonny and her spoke and he convinced her it was all her idea. Again, I know this is a soap -- but a high school student making a decision to take drugs, strip, and sleep with an adult -- is still on the adult (Sonny). He has had affairs, gotten very upset with his lovers - he shook Brenda, he killed AJ Quartermaine, he assaulted his father Mike, he slept with Carly while she was married to AJ Q - before he killed him, he also threatened AJ many times, he also had A.J. bound, gagged, and hung on a meat hook in a warehouse where he revoked all parental rights to Mikey, he held a broken bottle to both Ned's and Jax's necks, he covered up that Courtney hit Elizabeth Webber with her car, he kidnapped Sam, he had an affair with Sam while married to Carly, he punched Jason and pushed Emily Q, he assaulted Spinelli, and those are just a few things. I love MB, but Sonny is no hero. He is not loyal. I am NOT attacking you - I am just saying I preferred him as Mike. I also know I am very alone in this opinion. Ha Ha.
@@Viewer92136 fair enough……everything you’ve said there is true but he has good qualities…….sometimes it’s easier to watch one side but for me…..I see Sonny as a good man with faults and flaws as everyone else…….and the fact is…….he was abused as a child.
Im sorry but scott neef to blame his self aswell if he there for his daughter like a father should be alot of things that happen to her would have happened
Michelle Hancock you are right...so people cant blame Scotty for what happen to his daughter he didnt even know Karen existed....but Sonny IS the blame he knew what he was doing to that young girl....flash foward to 2018 Sonny is redeemed from tnat lifestyle of the drugs and the stripper clubs and is a upstanding citizen along with his better half Carly... the daughter that messed her mama marriage up out of revenge and how she has married every rich man that was Sonny enemy to get back at Sonny..... .now they are a lovely mother and daughter pair... ....WOW😱😱WOW😨😨😨
@@Wareaglegirl9960 yes you're right Scott couldn't be a dad bc he didn't know he was a dad...Scott not at fault🤷♂️...sonny is🤷♂️ but now 2021 he's The king of port charles🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Scott didn't know he was Karen's father. Rhonda never told him she was pregnant. So it wasn't Scott's fault.
Cathie Soli thats right😫
Cathie Soli he still sucks as a father
@@naomijonas1553 what do you mean, he didn’t know Karen was his daughter
@@naomijonas1553 how does he suck as a father if he didnt even know she was his daughter..... is he supposed to be psychic
Absolutely right
I think the Karen's death storyline stunk. They should have just had Karen and Jagger get married and just let them sail off into the sunset with their storyline. I don't like some of the storylines that they come up with.
Scott has every reason to hate Sonny.
LAdwv7495 idc Scott was a pathetic father and his was never there for Karen ever
@@naomijonas1553 he didn’t Karen was his daughter
@@rosettachaney8088 his wasn't there for her until after the fact
@@naomijonas1553 it was Karen mother fault, if she had an audacity to tell Scott that Karen is his daughter he would be there for her, and so it was the mother’s fault not scott
Scott has no right to talk he does not treat women any better he let ric get away with torturing carly in the panic room he is no better
Scott anger is justified against sonny ...but somehow Scott get treated like a clown
SCOTT has always been an ambulance-chasing clown.
His only claim to respectability is that he was LEE BALDWIN’S son.
And he feel well short of his father’s example.
@@joiisler8986 Not in this scene. In this scene he was the honorable father and Sonny was the scum punk who didn't give a damn about that girl, He just wanted to make a buck from her stripping. Sonny was the real clown
Sonny was never allowed to be wrong at this point in the show.
Guza rewriting History again
How?
Sonny has the nerve to preach to Scott about how it's his fault he wasn't there for Karen .....sonny does you're son Dante ring a bell?
@bombay3201 you probably slept with Sunny also that's why you are acting like you're so upset with him !!??#^$^^
Sonny had no clue about dante back then
@@murdahmammiez Exactly, Scotty didn't know about Karen either. Same with Logan
Oh, cool... thanks. Maybe you can help me with another episode. I'm trying to find the clip where Helena and Luke have a slight confrontation and Helena tells Luke that she wants to rid the world of all the spencer's.. on down from Laura, Lucky, Leslie Lou and Leslie.. and then goes on to name Bobbie, and Carly... and even Carly's son, Michael. "you do know who Michael is, don't you, Luke"?? Luke gasp and looks at Helena in pure shock. This was back in the late 90's when Michael was a todler.
How come it shows everybody's death but they don't show Karen getting hit by the car, they showing the aftermath smh
dawnna Avelino that aired on Port Charles, the GH spinoff
@@JCMellencamp78 Thank u I found it, I couldn't find it cuz I was use 2 c-ing the original Karen
Sonny is not a honorable man. His fans need to accept that
Ummm…. SONNY is a Mobster. Not exactly a “plus” on one’s résumé.
Fan here. We know and we accept him as is. Flaws and all
Courtney was always a whinnying hypocrite
where is the video where Karen Wexler and Joe Scanlon (from port charles) confronts Sonny on the docks about the time when he hooked her on drugs. In that scene, Jason pulls a gun on Joe and threatens to shoot him because Joe was about to attack Sonny. I think Robin intervened and sided with Sonny and Jason against Karen and Joe. But it ended positively. Powerful scenes to Sonny's and Karen's history. I cant find it.. it happened after the nurses ball in the last week of june 1998.
Yes, I have seen it. They made Karen say she made all the decisions, but as a high school student -- she was still underaged. Sonny still gave her the drugs, had her strip, and later slept with him. He didn't force her - but he was the adult - she was underaged. I thought that scene was strange seeing at one time Karen and Robin were BFFs. When Karen married Jagger - Robin was her maid of honor. I like to pretend that the Jagger/Karen story-line ended after their reception. They ruined the Jagger/Karen story when they brought her back and later killed her. Jagger came back for a brief while later with his son Stone who Robin helped because young Stone had Autism.
It’s disgusting that Robin sided with Karen’s abuser.
Karen should have never been killed off. She was a good character unlike so many of these teenagers starting on the show today we don't recognize who they are
I am looking for it too. Now that they killed Logan too.
Damn Sonny didn't look all too broken up over her death.
To be fair, his wife is missing at this point and had been for weeks. Among all the other stuff going on. He cared but it was what it was.
I don't see why they had to kill Karen
How come all these other characters could cross over from PC to GH but they wouldn't continue Caleb's & Livvie's storyline :(
It would have been nice because I am getting bored with the Jasam show.
DOLL PHASES MAKEUP good question!’
Well technically Karen and Scott started on GH so this makes sense.
They didn't crossover the supernatural element of Port Charles....
@@kristagerry8505 Right, & PC didn't start off as a vamp show. When they veered over to the supernatural part, it changed everything. I saw them as 2 separate shows
I wasn’t able to watch at this time no DVR lol. How did it come around that Karen was Scott’s daughter? It also turned out Franco was his son also right. And wasn’t there another son? I’m thinking this all had to have been after Laura. Scott did get around.
Sonny steals Michael from A.J.
What was that you just posted? Were you trying to post a link?
Most of Scott’s children are dead.
Thanks for posting. I watch GH everday. I wasn't a fan during this story line. It makes sense what is going on now with Jagger.
You should search “GH Carson 2002” it will take you back to some of the best General hospital storylines ever written. It’s Sonny and Carly along with Jason and so many other characters. 2002-2003
@@tad6281
JAGGER is no saint. He cheated on KAREN, and abandoned his dying brother,
STONE. (Who SONNY stuck by until he died.)
Go Courtney!
Spencer got it from his mom Courtney and Nickolas.
What’s this got to do with Spencer?
@@leetaluv Spencer is blunt. He is a fighter just like Courtney was.
@@Whynot356 Spencer is my fave always since he was a kid. Most hated Courtney but I was impartial tbh.
@Whynot356 You mean HIS mom Courtney and Nikolas ?
@@kellymcfalls1458 yes. His ( Spencer’s).
Is this the show Port Charles or GH?
This scene is on General Hospital
Sonny is a bully,murderer,etc
So Sonny's story is he slept with an underage girl who he knew was the victim of sexuel abuse had her strip in his nightclub, and gave her drugs because he cared about her. 😅 Rolling my eyes. 😂
I was so little that I don’t remember Karen I don’t even know who this is and I don’t know the story too well about Sunny and Karen and his clubs or somebody fill me in
What Sonny did to Karen back then how come Robin or Jason didn’t do anything to help her? Robin & Jason we’re friends to Karen as teenagers with Stone, Jagger & Brenda so why did let Sonny had Karen worked for him when she was a stripper at his club? I forgot what’s the history back then
Brenda and Robin followed Karen to the strip club. Jagger tried to help Karen. Actually Stone tried to help Karen, but he is the one that originally introduced Karen to Sonny.
Alan Quartermaine helped Karen after he caught her stealing drugs at hospital. He got her into therapy with Gail (who we didn't know was her step-grandmother at the time). Alan ended up paying for Karen's medical school expenses.
Karen had dated Jason when he was still Jason Q not Jason Morgan. She broke up with him because she was in love with Jagger.
Scotty got mad at Sonny for so called disrespecting him but didnt he start with Sonny first
Kin Shriner is usually a great actor but he's really bad here. Maybe he had an off day.
Maurice Benard, as always, is far worse.
He's a 3 emmy winner, so u were saying
Sonny is actually an awful person. He should stay Mike. (The actor is great. )
Kaiser Ramesis…….I disagree with your comment……..Sonny is more real and loyal and honest than anyone of them in PC……..and that’s despite his faults…….now I hope your not one of those that fly off the handle when someone disagrees with them……..I’ve encountered some of those here…..I respect your comment.
@@sandrajohnson4778 I think we are all entitled to our opinions. I think that Sonny is very loyal to his children, but not so much to other people.
He is a mobster - which is not a good thing no matter how TV/GH spins it.
When Sonny came to GH/PC or at least we first seen him - he was grooming high school student Karen Wexler with drugs to be a stripper at the Paradise Lounge.
I know almost everyone on GH and in PC has done bad things - but when Karen was brought back with new actress a few years later -- Sonny and her spoke and he convinced her it was all her idea. Again, I know this is a soap -- but a high school student making a decision to take drugs, strip, and sleep with an adult -- is still on the adult (Sonny).
He has had affairs, gotten very upset with his lovers - he shook Brenda, he killed AJ Quartermaine, he assaulted his father Mike, he slept with Carly while she was married to AJ Q - before he killed him, he also threatened AJ many times, he also had A.J. bound, gagged, and hung on a meat hook in a warehouse where he revoked all parental rights to Mikey, he held a broken bottle to both Ned's and Jax's necks, he covered up that Courtney hit Elizabeth Webber with her car, he kidnapped Sam, he had an affair with Sam while married to Carly, he punched Jason and pushed Emily Q, he assaulted Spinelli, and those are just a few things.
I love MB, but Sonny is no hero. He is not loyal. I am NOT attacking you - I am just saying I preferred him as Mike. I also know I am very alone in this opinion. Ha Ha.
@@Viewer92136 fair enough……everything you’ve said there is true but he has good qualities…….sometimes it’s easier to watch one side but for me…..I see Sonny as a good man with faults and flaws as everyone else…….and the fact is…….he was abused as a child.
@@Viewer92136 and it’s wasn’t Courtney that hit Liz with her car……it was Gia.
@@Viewer92136 hitting Emily was not on purpose…….a lot of what you mentioned was not done on purpose.
Karen isn’t dead
Yes she is, she was hit by a car in 2002 on The show Port Charles.
Lol
Im sorry but scott neef to blame his self aswell if he there for his daughter like a father should be alot of things that happen to her would have happened
TheNickylove82 maybe if her mother would have told him he would have been there. Sonny got her on drugs and had her become a stripper
Michelle Hancock you are right...so people cant blame Scotty for what happen to his daughter he didnt even know Karen existed....but Sonny IS the blame he knew what he was doing to that young girl....flash foward to 2018 Sonny is redeemed from tnat lifestyle of the drugs and the stripper clubs and is a upstanding citizen along with his better half Carly... the daughter that messed her mama marriage up out of revenge and how she has married every rich man that was Sonny enemy to get back at Sonny..... .now they are a lovely mother and daughter pair... ....WOW😱😱WOW😨😨😨
@@brendabyrd668 So true!!!
@@Wareaglegirl9960 yes you're right Scott couldn't be a dad bc he didn't know he was a dad...Scott not at fault🤷♂️...sonny is🤷♂️ but now 2021 he's The king of port charles🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️