The Dangerous Liaisons of Lord Byron | Part 3
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2024
- Good God I am surely in hell!
Upon Lord Byron’s return to England and the publication of Childe Harold’s Pilgrimage, he became one of the most notorious men in Europe and the world's first celebrity. The next period of his life would be rocked by shocking scandal, moral depravity and sexual outrage. Pale and sickly but devastatingly romantic, he attracted a dedicated fan base, the likes of which had never been seen. Chief amongst these was the eccentric and androgynous Lady Caroline Lamb, whose affair with Byron would inflame London society and push both to the brink of insanity. So extreme was Caroline’s obsession that upon the advice of her mother-in-law, the cunning and cruel Lady Melbourne known as "the Spider", Byron set out to find himself a wife. The woman he chose was an unlikely candidate: a mathematician, Annabella Milbanke, who Byron hoped would redeem his devilish disposition. Their marriage would be blighted by cruelty, immorality and a particularly pernicious breed of infidelity. For, one other woman now played a central role in Byron’s life: Augusta Leigh, his lover, and sister…
Join Tom and Dominic as they discuss Lord Byron’s tumultuous romantic love affairs and marriage; culminating in a scandal so shocking and sexually licentious that it would drive him from England.
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It's rare that one feels like having a shower after a history podcast; but, in this case, I'll make an exception.
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As a struggling poet looking for 'top tips', I'm most grateful for your opening vignette.
(n.b. must remember to ring my sister).
With Tom and Dom we head off the rails right into the side of the mountain, full speed, a thousand times. Their sanity is our parachute just before impact, when has inappropriate laughter ever been more appropriate, or even soothing. Byron's behavior is so consistently so far over the top so often not scandal, but mania or insanity seem better involuntary utterances in the center of the tornados that rip through Byron's social landscape. Wow! Depravity would be a kind word in this case. You guys are marvelous, deftly navigating the madness and a perfect compliment to one another; and ever a mercy to us with strongly tethered, very strong, minds. It would be impossible to have a better time exploring disasters of such epic proportions. I had to subscribe, well done!
'Don Juan' - like 'Essay on Man' and 'Hunting of the Snark' - is one of those poems which work like one of those a poisoned arrow in fairy tales, digging deeper and deeper into my heart as the years pass.
I've been binge listening to this podcast, and then again.
Appreciate the effort put into these! I like the intros to camera
Anna Bella was an honest well thought out person . He was very cruel full stop no question
Looks like the direct result of a someone sexualy assaulted as a child. Very sad and unfortunately still common
This series has been great!!
So very interesting and entertaining. Thank you!
Sword dance still alive and well in the north of England, although these days performed more by folk tradition enthusiasts rather than miners.
Let us not forget that "sodomy" is not a pracrice just confined to male-on-male sexual activity.
this is so good
"Ironic v Byronic ... oh, who do I pick?" (Lady Caroline Lamb)
Yes dangerous to know at minimum.. 😮
Brilliant 👍🏼
I think when Caroline told Byron that “ I feel for you as your sister does”, she was saying ‘ I can do for you what your sister does, so you don’t need her ‘.
@33:07 Doesn’t Augusta conceive Elizabeth Mendora Leigh (presumed Byron) during that Winter stay at Newstead in 1813? Fantastic series btw 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
My word, what a terrible man!
Thank You! ⚜️✨🦩💎
These days most know of Byrons reputation, but I thoroughly enjoyed the description of the times and the mores of the period in Britain where Beau Brumell strutted around, side by side with the squallor of pre Dickensian London.
I can’t even keep up with whom he is hooking up with!
One must contemplate the mystery of toxic charisma. I've seen it in action. It can be a very destructive force. I try very hard not to be the focus of anyone's attention. This planet's in a bad neighborhood...
Its a shame George Michael is gone. He would have made a great Byron! And Jane Austen too as she with the help of the Brontes could have written the screenplay 😂😂
The charges were horrendous, even by today’s standards: how dare a husband even try to sodomize his wife? It’s unheard of
Good God I am surely in hell!😂😂😂
I don’t know why Lady Melbourne is called amoral when the behaviour cited is by definition immoral. She wasn’t a moral moron.
Dominic looks like he’s broadcasting from a toy shop.
Looks childish and gaudy
Did you spell liaison correctly?
I think Alan Clark MP lived inThe Albany. Another colourful figure - of 'the coven' fame.
😀😀😀 Byron is a caricature.
Lady Melbourne to Byron: "Are you mad?" Byron in reply: "Eh ... duh... haven't you heard? Mad, Bad and Dangerous to know ..."
Chewing gum? You mean Coca leaves?
Yum…
I recall at the age of 11 or 12 doing a school project on Byron - darn sure they didn't tell us about incest or rape!
This is the kind of stuff women talk about behind other peoples back, I never knew Tom and Dominic would be interested in such a story.
Sounds a little sexist. And why fence off certain events and relationships from historical discussion? I’m an old bloke and I find it interesting.
If you love history, most history is interesting.
I don’t know any women who talks about this behind anyone’s backs - I am one and like talking about this stuff upfront 😊.
So, you've stopped the,
"Do you...?" stuff.
But the hype intros are still a bit weird.
Wow, lol, I’m in
Surely it's not pronounced "don joo-an" but rather "don wan". For don Juan. Otherwise brilliant discussion as always.
In the rhyme scheme it's "Joo-an". Byron probably knew the correct pronunciation but was being satirical in his use of the non-Spanish pronunciation.
@@jonathanphillips5794 very interesting. I'm sure this has been debated in English literature classrooms around the world. Could it not work as "who-on" to fit with the rhyme scheme? I mean, it would be very Byron to create such controversy.
Not just Juan, most people said Quixote as 'kwicksot' until fairly recently. I blame the EU for all that correct pronunciation. We can seize back control of our British mispronunciation with pride!
Byron writes several times that it was to be pronounced 'Joo-an'... he joked that it was so it could be rhymed with 'Good-un'!
You haven’t actually read it then,op?
I feel sorry for anyone who is introduced to Byron by this rubbish - these marriage horror stories were written by Annabella for the benefit of her lawyers - it's quite shameful to repeat this like two old ladies twitching curtains
What sources would you recommend for a more factually accurate introduction to Byron?
I'd like to learn more about this guy.
@@woah6958 He's worth it. There are so many books about him - oddly, as time has progressed they have become more and more puerile. I'd start with Doris Langley Moore's 'The Late Lord Byron', which dissects all the books written immediately after his death - and on which many subsequent books based their theories upon. Same with Thomas Moore's original biog. - then his letters - and you have a wonderful friend for life.
@@sholmes-mg5hr Thankyou.
So Annabella told you this in person otherwise that’s just the version of this story you prefer to believe.
@@georgecav Malcolm Elwin's book on the marriage contains every single letter written to and from before their engagement to years after - the story tells itself - and she was a vicious fabulist of the first order.