The Man, The Myth, The LEGEND - Larry Bird
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Today I do a reaction to a Nonstop video called How Good Was Larry Bird Actually?. Head over to their channel and shoot a like and subscribe, he's great! Link is below:
• How Good Was Larry Bir...
Bird touch passes were a thing of beauty
How good Larry Bird was? Better than 99.99999% of all NBA players that ever played the game.
Just ask Magic Johnson. He was really the only guy who could beat Larry Legend and HE was scared of him.
Bird is my #2 player of all time... Absolute legend!!
LARRY LEGEND IS A UNICORN AND THE TRUE GOAT!!! 🐐 ☘️
Larry Legend!!!... #GreatestSFofAllTime
Larry is in my opinion one of the most disrespected Legends. The same thing happening with Jordan and Lebron also happened earlier in LeBrons career with Larry. The media had been already running away with the story that Lebron was the greatest SF by the time he was finished with the HEAT. They used Larry as a stepping stone to prop up LeBron in the goat debate.
I don't even think Lebron has a claim to greatest SF now. Larry's overall game and mindset was just different. Sad how little recognition he gets by modern fans, because a lot of the things that made him a LEGEND, we can all be better from.
No way lbj id the goat nor the goat of SFs.
Hell no...
@@Lomno12 If longevity is a factor that eliminates Bird. Who becomes LeBron's competition? Dr. J? Pippen? Havlicek? Havlicek's got 8 rings and won two championships without Russell. Add Dr. J's time in the ABA and he's Top 10. Pippen was the best two-way small forward.
@@stanleyrogouskii agree.
Also, i just can't hold this generation of players to the same standard. This today what they are playing is not basketball.
My top 2 Michael Jordan & Larry Bird.
My personal goat. Dirk was as close as anybody ever got. "They'll set a pick for me right here, and then I'll shoot it in your face." To Michael Cooper before the game winning shot in 1986.
MVP ranking in his first 8 years: 4th, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd.
My favorite bball player together with MJ and Drazen Petrovic (yes, i'm a croat).
He is in my top 3.
Arguably,if it is a ball to win the game, i'd say the most clutch mfer ever.
Larry Joe Bird would literally wipe the floor with today's NBA players
Agreed. First of all Larry would have them crying on their sneaker collabs before the game even started 😂.
@@RemoWilliams1227 haha. Good one
One of the funniest things I've ever heard was what Magic said about the '84 Lakers vs Celtic finals, compared to what Larry said about it. I'm not exact with the quotes but it's pretty much what they said:
Magic: "I'm sure everyone was expecting a good seven game series."
Larry: "Yeah I thought we'd sweep them in four..."
First time I heard those quotes one after the other I just couldn't stop laughing. He was so confident they'd just demolish the Lakers, no quarter given, LOL. This was the Showtime Lakers, with Kareem, Magic, and Worthy, but he was going to treat them as no more than scrubs. That was Larry, solid unshakeable confidence.
he wasn't chopping wood he was paving his mother's driveway
Thats what i thought too lol
Bird is Top 5 and greatest SF ever.
I agree.
100%
Larry represented us indiana country kids who all had hoops in our back yard in our small towns. Self included.
Larry Bird for sure in my top 10 my top 5 have MJ Kobe Shaq Magic Kareem
Bird deserved the 81 FMVP. Bird shunned the press and interviews. Here are the numbers for each player per game for the 81 Finals. Maxwell was 17.7 points, 9.5 rebounds and 2.8 assists. Bird was 15.3 points, 15.3 rebounds and 7.0 assists per game. Bird actually outplayed Maxwell in games 1,2,3, and 6. Maxwell was better in games 4 and 5.
He is in my top five! If game is on the line, you want the ball in Bird's hands! One of the toughest competitors ever! I think whether he knew it or not, Kobe emulated Bird. Of course MJ is in a category by himself!
During Bird's first championship, he was playing power forward. He also recorded two 20 rebound games. Bird's shot was falling, so he contributed in other ways. McHale was the sixth man at the time as a rookie I believe.
Cedric has coasted off that 81 MVP for the rest of his career & after!
If anyone hasn't watched it yet Clayton Crowley has a great Making the Case (for best ever, it's a whole series) that's pretty great. Loved this too though!
DRUNKEN MASTER!! 😂
Great flick!!
😆 🤣 😂
Right hand is reserved for the rockets! I just imagine what his teammates said and then to go out and do it! WOW
When tough guys fake injuries to avoid Birdman, it’s fear factor time.
Bird was a real leader
The Bird Flu 😂
@@irishgrl According to legend, NBA survivors of the 80s Bird Flu describe their symptoms like they just got their ass kicked.
Bird's '87 stats were just as good, but they gave the MVP to Magic.
I forget how big he is, today he could play smallball center.
The Video Got A Few Things Wrong BUT I'll Just Point Out How Really Bird First Hurt His Back; It Happened In The Summer Of 1985 & He Hurt It While Shoveling-Gravel. When You SEE The Commercial That Bird & Magic Made While At Bird's Home In 1987. Notice All That Gravel Around Bird's Court & Where Magic's Lemmo-Car Was Parked On. Bird Did All That Himself & Other Parts Around The Area. He First Hired His Youngest Brother & A Couple Of Friends Of His Youngest Brother. But He Got Very Upset With Them Because They All Were Lagging About & Complaining. So He Said F-It I'll Do It Myself & He Did. But It Also Started A Chain Of Event's Hurting His Back. Also In The Off Season Of 89-90 He Had A Disc Removed From His Back (I Think It Was That Summer).
So How He Played,
ANY-GAMES In 1990-91 & In 1991-92 Is Just A Miracle In It's Self. Yes He Should Have Gotten Finals-MVP In The 1980-81. But I Think It Didn't Really Bother Him Because Deep Down He Knew & Other's Knew. It Was Like A Pity Given To Maxwell BECAUSE Yes Bird Did Have Better #'s In Rebounding & Assist's & Only 3-Points Behind Maxwell. I Think Bird Felt Relief In Away Because He Won A Lot Of Things In His First Year & He Didn't Want Maxwell & Other's To Feel Left Out, Just Wanted Peace With His Teammate's.
It wasn’t an addiction. He literally partied for celebrating being drafted and did it one time and that’s that.
Damn....thats even sadder
The fact that he was telling Byron scott every time he was guarding him that he is a little too late and yo worthy yo not worry about it and telling him the play that they are going to set a screen for him he will catch it in the corner and hit the three and all of that in the finals is my fav bird story lol but the on that he said to Reggie "im the best effing shooter in the nba" is pretty crazy as well
Maybe the most complete player ever
I have Jordan at the top but after that I don't have a list. Its more of a pool of players depending on how you wish to measure and nowhere in that pool does Leflop appear. I will put Wilt in my pool before I every think about James.
Fun fact...and showing my age lol my introduction to Basketball as a whole was Jordan vs Bird on the NES I was like 2 when it released but it's the first basketball related thing I remember seeing. Crazy how guys just standing in place and shooting is basically the NBA today LOL. I gotta see if YT still has some Bird games up, I want to see more of him after watching this. Thanks Mindcrime
Best Forward ever over that weak LBJ
Len Bias wasn't addicted to coke. His vice was really ice cream. On campus he wasn't known to be partying like that or partying really. That's why it was such a shock that he'd even do that.
Ohhh wow. So just a big celebration party gone wrong then...
He's the best small forward ever
I got him at #1 sf all time too
Didnt play long enough for top 5 but his peak yr 83 to 88 best yrs comparable to any best prime yrs
In your estimation, what is the appropriate number of years a player must play in the NBA in order that they might even be considered a great player regardless of their skills, talents, abilities, influence, etc.?
@@cindyknudson2715 a decent ten yrs warrent almost a decade bird got hurt his 5th going his 6th his best overall yr his best team
Disagree with this take. Larry’s 13 year career (12 really) is plenty good enuff to keep him in the top 5 convo.
U can say that he in the 10 depends because mike kareem russell magic wilt duncan kobe hakeem all in there anybody but that guy
Have to correct something about why Larry Bird retired. Larry Bird injured his back working on his mother's driveway, moving concrete.
Also, Len Bias beat Michael Jordan and the North Carolina Tar Heels in college. He was thought to become just as great or greater than Jordan but died due to an overdose of using pure cocaine.
Thanks for the video
Since it was brought up here, anytime you wanna stump a Bron-Noser who won’t shut up about what he’s doing at age 38 or 39, go show them what Kareem did in the 1985 Finals. LeBron didn’t do anything close to that. His longevity is being a bit overblown.
You are aware of the Bird/Magic doc, right? That would be a fun one to react to in whole or part by part. Just a great rewatch! ❤🏀💐
Making The Case is also great Bird video!
It’s a short video not based on court events, but you need to watch Magic and Bird talk about their Converse commercial in French Lick. That is nothing like today’s game, where everyone is buddies from the start and jock sniffing from the get go to maybe one day create a superteam
Jordan didn't make it past the 1st round because he didn't have Scotty Pipen.
He didn't make it past the 1st round because Larry Bird was in the league.
96 Bulls vs. 86 Celtics. Parish on both teams.
Yeah legend owned god😅
13:30 i heard it was that he was making drive way with cement for his mom when his back got hurt..
Shoveling gravel
Larry, was THAT GOOD....Young bucks these days have no clue if they don't think he was top 3 all time....Lebone couldn't pack Larry's jock, and you have no clue if you think different. Still, maybe the toughest ever, and likely the best basketball mind ever... Only Michael is above him ultimately... Killer channel brother, props man!! Another forgotten monster was Akeem, doode was a bad man under the basket and on the baseline
Agreed. I always get pushback when I tell people I have him at #2 all time, only behind Mike. He is just everything you would want as a basketball player. He can shoot from anywhere, is clutch, rebound, one of the best passers ever, read passing lanes, steals. Aside from his stats, a great leader, made his teammates better, mentally/physically tough, maybe the smartest nba player ever. Most important is just how he affected every game or other players mentally even without the stat sheet. You listen to almost any player from his time and they tell you they actually feared him or had sleepless nights. I get it if people never saw him play, but he was ridiculous man, and so much fun to watch.
To your second statement, also controversial but I have Hakeem at #4 all time. One of the most skilled 2 way players to ever do it. If he had as much help as many other of the legends have, he would be in a lot more conversations. He was a monster.
@@TwistedMetal-tz6fji also agree with Olajuwon.
Although, i think Wilt destroys them all.
The only two who could stop shaq.
15:12 😂
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He's my 1a along with Michael Jordan being 1b.
React to more Bird!! Subbed!!!
Will do another very soon!
wow .. i usually take for granted people are aware lol... but yes Cedric got the MVP and bird was absolutely robbed... he had a rough start scoring because of the series before . but look what he did... he said the series would be about rebounding.. well it was and he basically matched the greatest rebounder of the era .. moses didnt avg 16 to birds 15 which is still great... no it was moses 15.7 to bird 15.3... so basically a wash... now birds scoring was down and second on the team at 15.3 to Maxwell at 17 or so. BUT... AGAIN he averaged 15.3 rebounds 2nd to moses and a full 6 more than any other Celtic.. THEN he led BOTH teams in assists and steals and it wasnt close... this was one of those moments that showed larry could dominate even if his shot was off ...
What are your thoughts on Steph's place in the all-time discussion. Is he higher than Bron on your list?
On mine he is. And i don't consider lbj top 20
@@Lomno12 who is your top 20 players if you dont mind.
@@mugenchamplooo
Not in order: mj, bird, kobe, shaq, wilt, kareem, magic, hakeem, isaiah, moses, barkley, dr j, duncan, stockton, russel, west, robertson, petit, mikan, maravich,
Baylor, i could add 2-3 more
I got steph higher because he stayed with his team and built, never thew anyone under the bus, is a good teammate, and inspired a whole generation of kids to play basketball.
@@TheRealMindCrimeand if needed, you can have an argument about having same amount of rings
Basketball passing for me im sooo bad at. When it comes with other sports like hockey, and socver comes easy for me passing
He wasn't naturally playing like crap, he was being locked down forced into playing like crap by having multiple defenders on him literally the whole game. Magic didn't get pressured so hard all game long like Larry. They knew what they were doing and it was a good strategy, but it was kind of cowardly. If it had been a fast break back and forth contest match between the two squads then it would have been a more balanced and epic contest down to the wire.
in the MODERN ERA.. meaning after the merger and post complete dominance of the centers.. ie 76 and after which means russel and wilt are not in the picture Larry imo is at worst 3 rd and imo 2nd... IF you are willing to look at context... because no other top 10 player NEEDS more context because no other top ten player basically ONLY had a 9 yr career with a coach who actually held him back for his first 5 yrs... its honestly amazing when your really look at the full picture.. and that he had that much effect on the history of the game in such a short period is insane.... and that he is still in most sane people's top ten all time for only 9 Yrs is insane and clear evidence how truly great he was.
There was a video "Larry Bird vs Larry Bird" but i can't find it anymore. I think, It kinda explain why the boston celtics lost in the finals against the lakers in 1985 or 87. Hope can find it and do your thing. ty
Funny… Bird didn’t claim he “needed help” when he lost in the NCAA Tournament 🤔 Even in college dude was mentally tougher than most NBA veterans today🤷🏽
Yup.
And, when interviewed, he always took any blame unto himself.
Larry bird is the white Michael Jordan
Jessica
Facts!
You gotta react to Bronny getting drafted to the Lakers. Interested to hear your thoghts.
Done
Old man LeBron is hurting young LeBron's reputation. A few years ago if someone asked "who do you want to build a team around, Bird or LeBron" you'd say LeBron, mainly because of his longevity. But now you might think "Bird will have a great 5 years, break his back and move on but LeBron will hang around forever and put his son on the team and make his podast bro coach."
Noone with a brain takes lecheat over larry legend under any circumstances
Bird was better than lebron. The false narrative that lebron is in the Goat conversation... it just isn't true... lebron maybe is 10th...Bird 4th/5th
LeBron vs. Bird? Bird had a better peak. LeBron has longevity. Do I want peak Bird or peak LeBron? Depends on the supporting cast. More interesting is Bird vs. Dr J and Bird vs. Pippen.
I could go on about Larry's last 3 Yrs.. it DESERVES ITS OWN VIDEO. HINT HINT... how he played as a gimp in his last 3 yrs only proves how much greater and skilled he was compared to basically everyone... seriously look into old injured bird vs ANY other player in history in that position... and bird NEVER looked clumsy.. smh. that was an insult.. he isnt clumsy or doofY like joker.. no offense to joker
lol.. not a cocaine addiction.. just a bad night overdose.. to say next jordan? they were 2 yrs apart and good friends . one was sf one sg. bias was a big 6 8 and nba muscular as a senior. with an nba ready mid range jumper .. the one thing he definitely had on jordan at that point... he was a great college defender and very good rebounder.. he could jump high . the way I saw him is he would have been a little bit stronger and more or at least as athletic wilkins with a better nba ready shot , better rebounder and MUCH better defender... he imo would have been a very good steals guy and VERY good shot blocker for that position...
the only thing unknown is would he have the discipline to be a great defender and would he have any ability to pass and have floor vision as it wasnt asked of him in college... not was it jordan but jordan showed he could pass...
Going to the celtics who were one of the top few defensive teams as well as one of the top assists teams as they would have 4 guys averaging over 5 assists... he was on the best team to learn those traits...
at minimum, given the injuries in 87 I feel he gets a huge opportunity to run the floor with prime bird and allow Kevin to heal and be healthy for the finals.
having a healthy kevin for the finals probably would have been enough... but having a healthy kevin AND a rookie bias who is contributing? I think its almost certain 87 ends differently. And im not even mentioning the nagging injuries to Parrish and walton... having bias possibly could have helped their situation also .. so this was the turning point... losing bias and birds injury... 2 little tweaks to the celtic history and we quite possibly are speaking differently about the goat conversation
Fuckin Lakers are a big disappointing joke, we knew what was about to happen but it still feels so disappointing. A once great organization becomes flat out joke while the Celtics celebrate a well earned championship
His left hand shooting game isn't that amazing. He already used both hands equally well. If you pay attention to when he's signing something, he's doing it left handed.
I was alive in '84 and watched the series live. It was much better than trying to watch old YT videos of those games. I wish they could up the quality.
The greatest white player of all time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 on the real tho, I think Larry would dominate this era. He would just have to evolve on a skilled level
He was more "evolved" than any of the current players.
White GOATS:
Center: Jokic
Power Forward: Dirk
Small Forward: Bird
Shooting Guard: Havlicek
Point Guard: Jerry West
Black GOATS:
Center: Kareem
Power Forward: Karl Malone
Small Forward: LeBron
Shooting Guard: Jordan
Point Guard: Magic
@@stanleyrogouskimmm, no. I take healthy sabonis over jokic any day any night.
And i probably have 1-2 more switches.
No, i don't have lebron on SF black goat list wtf?
@@Lomno12 Who would you start as small forward? KD? Dr. J? Pippen? Kawhi? You could put Luka at point guard and Ginobli at shooting guard for the WG team. You could sub out Malone and put in Dunca for the BG team.
@@stanleyrogouskii would not start any of today's players. Closest i would is kawhi but, i don't know as he is a what if.
So Most likely sf baylor, kobe
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