EILEEN ending explained
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- This slow burn thriller by Ottessa Moshfegh was adapted into the 2023 movie starring Anne Hathaway and Thomasin Mckenzie. Hear my book and movie review, what I think was being said, and find out how the two compare!
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00:00 nonspoiler reviews
05:36 Eileen and her dad
11:26 the boy’s prison
13:06 Rebecca
16:28 Lee Polk
17:58 Rebecca’s house
21:52 Mrs. Polk
25:04 the ending
27:30 my interpretation
30:56 book vs movie
I think this is the best thing Anne Hathaway has ever done. She's a completely different person in this movie. I thought I was watching a new actress I hadn't seen before. I think the comparison to Hitchcock is because of the sudden plot switch in the middle and its has an ending that's doesn't look like an ending, kind of like the way The Birds ended. Very inexplicable.
Agreed she is so good! And very true about the abrupt, open ending ending. (BTW I have a book vs movie video for The Birds that I did a few months back)
Yes same. I really appreciate actors who can actually transform and become the character rather than playing themselves in everything they’re in. Hathaway is underrated for sure.
Her best thing is Catwoman in The Dark Knight Rises
10:30 This explains so much, I just finished watching the movie and I thought Joanie was Eileen's mother, but now that I realise it's the sister, it makes a lot of sense why Eileen would make such a critical action in the ending with Rebecca in the basement, the life style situations are somewhat similar in relation to Eileen and the inmate who was arrested for murdering his father.edit :The ending for the movie felt pretty open ended but I am happy the book ending was better.
Oh, yeah knowing it was her sister makes a huge difference!
19:09 Honestly I don't blame her. If I was Eileen I would be madly in love with Rebecca and probably way too happy and exited about the invite to notice the big red flags xD
😆 Anne Hathaway was so enchanting in this role! And yet so unhinged lol
Saw the movie yesterday! Anne Hathaway…OMG. I may have been falling for Rebecca at the same time as Eileen. I had to get the book immediately after. Can’t wait to start reading.
Yes! Anne Hathaway was amazing! Since you liked the movie I am sure you like the book as well!
11:02 and for me that moment is crucial as it's why she later does what she does. Her empathy to Polk is rooted in that.
Definitely!
I thought of the movie "Carol", too, when I saw the trailer for "Eileen". It's the hair! Something about that cut and color screams rich and life long privilege. I'm glad they changed her hair color. Cheers!
The amount of times I say Elaine when I mean Eileen 🤦♀️ lol
For the Moshfegh fans, I recently finished reading all of her books and my video reviewing them is linked in the description!
director Will Oldroyd confessed that he immediately thought of Thomasin McKenzie for the role of Eileen, without any doubt.
in addition to being very good at playing this character, Thomasin did a lot of research to best develop the figure of Eileen
For the film version, can we say that Eileen is a character on the psychopathic spectrum?
Not especially because of the murder (which is shown as impulsive and almost unintentional in the film) but rather because of his lifestyle and what it reflects about her relationship to the world.
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Her emotional withdrawal is interesting because it's not spectacular and it's very 'ordinary'.
Another interesting thing is that she doesn't see the red flags and we often imagine that psychopaths are very manipulative, lucid and calculating (when in fact the majority of them are very sensitive to manipulation, fascination, the blinding effect of flattery, etc.).
So, from a psychological point of view, it's very interesting to see Eileen act in this way.
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I love how the film has dared to be as minimalist as possible compared to the literary story.
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As a reminder, violence, negligence and trauma don't make anyone stronger.
They always make you weaker.
And when you become extremely fragile, your psyche withdraws emotionally to protect itself.
And then various things can cause this process to lock in forever.
It's possible, but her behavior could also just be the product of her bad home life and not necessarily a personality disorder. She is definitely a complex character, especially in the book!
Eileen was definitely a closet psychopath
Thank you for this video, I wish more people talked about this movie. I think I'm one of the three people who fairly enjoyed watching it and I am definitely planning to read the book soon to get more insight!
You're welcome! Thanks for commenting and I'm sure you will love the book of you enjoyed the movie!
I had zero knowledge of the film or its source material. I just like the actors and heard it was a thriller, and so I was in. Just left the theaters a few hours ago, and I quite liked the film. Slow burn indeed, I had zero clue where it was heading. Some genuine shocks and reactions from myself and the audience. Great video, and thanks for this comparison. It was my immediate thought when leaving the theater, wondering "what was the book like?"
Thanks for sharing! I'm glad to hear you liked the movie and that my video was helpful 😊
The movie was good AF. That plot twist was fantastic.
Marin Ireland is my bday twin and she held her own with Anne and Thomasin
On the hair color point, I believe it is intended to be an ohmage to Hitchcock's blondes since William Oldroyd is heavily borrowing from Hitchcock's style in the movie. And I actually recall reading somewhere years ago that Moshfegh is a big Hitchcock fan and actually the genesis of the novel for her was his works, so it might be something that Oldroyd and Moshfegh thought might work better in the movie since the movie fans would automatically draw the connection between the styles.
Ooo yeah that makes a lot of sense! When we first met Rebecca she is wearing that gray suit skirt outfit too which I just now realized may have also been a nod to Vertigo.
Thanks for sharing!
Just saw this movie without reading the book. Really great breakdown of the movie. Really interesting to see the differences with the book that you highlighted. Marin Ireland's scene was fantastic as well in addition to the two leads.
Glad you enjoyed the video! And yeah, great performances all the way around.
Just finished watching the movie & i needed to gush about it or hear someone talk about it hahah!! Great vid!
Thanks 😁 Glad to hear you loved the movie!
I usually dislike reviews, but yours was excellent and not a bit obnoxious. Thanks for that.
Thank you so much!!
oh thank you so much for this video, I didnt know that I needed all this info. I didnt read the book so I was like what did just happened?! Maravillosa review
Glad it was helpful! 😁
Surprised they didn’t keep Eileen’s ritual use of laxatives in the movie, or the rotting dead mouse in her car, in the movie.
Yeah those were interesting details in the book.
I liked the movie but not how it ended. Just a voice over by an older Eileen at the end would have been appreciated to let us know how her life turned out. Anyway, thanks to your video I know she got away with her crime and lived to a ripe old age.
Yeah, I go back and forth on whether I like the movie ending or if I think it should have had something more.
But I'm glad you found my video and it answered some of your questions!
Ottessa Moshfegh and her husband wrote the screenplay as you might've seen, which is good enough for me. It gives the adaptation more value when you know the mind behind the story (author) actually chose what to take out and what to keep in. As opposed to authors being credited as only a producer on a project so you're unsure if an adaptation is straying from their original vision. Great movie, great video!
Yeah it's always interesting to see the changes the author makes to their own story!
I felt like the biggest difference was that the movie really seemed to be about Rebecca's plot, whereas the book is much more about Eileen's life and her obsession switching from Randy to Rebecca. In fact she explicitly states at some point that she is not really invested in the Leonard situation at all and only cares about being with her. It's like Eileen and Rebecca are living in two separate books.
I liked the movie but I don't think it would have been that difficult to include some more psychological detail through a few little close ups and slightly longer scenes, like the dirty hair you mentioned.
Yeah that's a good point!
4 stars Thanks for the review since I didn't read the book
I assumed that they tried to compensate for Rebecca's change of hair colour by incorporating the motif of red throughout the movie to represent her influence on Eileen. Her car, the bar sign, Eileen's dress on Christmas Eve, and the headlights of Eileen's car as she runs away.
That's such a great observation! Thanks for sharing!
Try "Homesick For Another World". Short stories. It's maybe my favorite book.
Thanks! I want to read all of her books and after all make a video about them!
I just reserved this from my local public library. Synopsis intrigued me...I've had a decade of reading "non-fiction" biographies, history, archaeology. Time to switch! Thanks for the suggestion.
She didn’t bathe in the movie too, when she came back from work her Dad asked, “what is that smell, it smell like roadkill” when she got close to him.
Oh good catch! Thanks for sharing
I like the format of book vs movie. I think it gave me deeper insight into a movie that left me hanging.
Yeah the movie ending is very abrupt!
Not Rebecca thinking she's a vigilante but is actually a vigil auntie.
What happens to Mrs. Polk in the basement is completely different, book to movie. Better in movie by far.
The movie ending was terrible, the plot was confusing but the acting is good. Just don’t waste your time like I did
It's definitely not for everyone!
It could have been but it's just lazy writing@@WhytheBookWins
Confusing??? lmao it was pretty easy to follow my guy
What was confusing??
I loved it! And it ends just like all movies used to do in the 60s
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Seriously, though....this is a Heavy Story. Thank you.
Yeah definitely 😐
@@WhytheBookWinsI put this book on hold at the public library. Looking forward to reading it. I love the intimacy of reading what another person wrote in their creative fiction. Don't care much for audiobooks, except for Rita Rudner 😊
No worries ..."Elaine" and Eileen" are from the same linguistic root. Now I want to listen to "Come On, Eileen" song by Dexy's Midnight Runners.😊. An Eileen in the Summer was a youthful crush before I got married . Gotta check book and movie out. Thanks!
I liked the movie. I loved the atmosphere and how weird the main character was. I disliked the ending though so I'm curious to buy the book and see how more detailed it is
The book definitely has much more detail!
I never knew they had a book on the movie until I saw this video. I just watched the movie and I liked it but I do agree with everyone that the ending was terrible. Acting was spot on
Yeah the book fills in all the gaps left by the movie!
@@WhytheBookWins thanks for the response. I subscribed to your channel im interest in your take on the whole movie and book comparison.
Really liked everything about the movie, it was just poised so well to spring on into a bigger plot; but I guess the abrupt ending was part of the point. My interpretation of Eileen's violent outburst towards Missus Polk was motivated by;
Eileen's life is terrible, what she thought was the answer isn't, Mr Polk reminds her of her father, but mostly Mrs Polk reminds her of herself:
- accumulation of her frustrating life up to this point which just snaps
- trying to process the betrayal & disappointment of Rebecca's manipulations & possibly the erosion of the illusion of both Rebecca's romance & also "coolness & composure", though she still tries to cling on to the illusion afterwards.
- she's no attracted to Eileen, she's not clever or cool (quite the opposite) & she preyed on Eileen's vulnerabilities' to manipulate her, making her an unwilling accomplish when she messes up.
But also
- clearly the abuse of the Polk boy by his policeman father resonates with Eileen, through the abusive relationship her father has with her (& her sister)
Mostly
- Missus Polk's pathetic tolerance & acceptance of the abuse of her son, and the complicity in the hopeless hope that it could get better, Eileen sees herself in Missus Polk's pathetic disillusionment; tolerating her Father's abuse of her, of her sister, tolerating her disappointing life.
She sees herself in Missus Polk, & she diverts a lot of self hate, anger etc. towards her.
I would have liked this to be developed more in the film but maybe less is more.
Yeah I like what you said about Eileen seeing herself in Mrs. Polk
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
What is it about me beloved kiwi 🥝 and horrible daddy issues? Compare the trajectories of this film to Leave No Trace where her last line to her father was "What's wrong with you... isn't wrong with me. " And then she leaves him, another very sudden ending.
Last Night in SoHo sees her without a father, brother or grandfather and no boyfriends until she meets Johnnie Adjoe and also gets a dream hickey from the 11th Doctor. Note also the relationship betwixt Eloise and Sandy seems in some ways similar to those of Eilleen and Rebecca.
I'll also quickly mention Tommie Mac's dead parents and grandfather in Totally Completely Fine, a dramedy from STAN Australia 🇦🇺 and there her character, Viviane gets a stalker 😜 girlfriend who is running from a straight marriage and ends up in a house and bed with our favorite kiwi.
And Jojo Rabbit... she has no family and a young boy dreams of a strange Polynesian / Jewish film director who portrays a cartoon Hitler who befriends him in his tortured life.
Not for everyone, but a REAL movie, you know?
I enjoyed the movie right up until the end where nothing is explained. It just ends. I hate when a movie does that. I’m definitely wishing I’d read the book first! It’s my strict policy to not see a movie before reading the book and I blew it here. I may let some time pass and then read the book.
I liked the movie!! Never seen the book, I barely even saw the trailer, and all I have to say is that this movie is very different, artsy, great acting, unique time period for a story, the story and plot is so vague, your mind predicts what it’s going to happen and it wasn’t practical at all, many twists and many wow moments. I enjoyed the movie a lot, very different. The ending was a good way to make somone think about the movie and I like it, I wonder what happens afterwards
Yeah it's definitely different. I'm glad you liked it though and I agree with your opinions!
SPOILERS:
What do you think about the line where Eileen wonders about a conversation between her dad and Rebecca tied up in the basement? I initially thought she had actually tied her up in their basement before leaving, but I saw a comment saying it was just another one of Eileen’s fantasies
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Eileen would be an interesting double feature with Saltburn.
Personally, I didn’t like the movie or book. I finished the book on audio and thought I should give the movie a try because of reviews. I actually thought this was a fairly good adaptation of the book. That being said, I didn’t like the book 😂
I still need to watch Saltburn!
Did you find the book too slow? I enjoyed it, but I was surprised how long it took for us to even meet Rebecca in the book!
@@WhytheBookWins yeah, it was like a character study for 75% of the book. Just meandering thoughts of this person. Then all of sudden it’s all plot for the last 25%.
Saltburn is good. Well I mean I like it. Without spoilers, reminds me of a perverse talented Mr Ripley. The reason I think it would make an interesting double feature is because the actions and character of Barry Keoghan in that movie are very similar to Eileen. Not to mention a lot of wtf moments. Saltburn isn’t nearly as slow as Eileen.
@joshdea7 watched saltburn and I didn't see you compared it to Tom Ripley till just now but I 100% agree. I prefer the Damon Ripley movie over saltburn by far but still enjoyed it overall.
The Buk 😂
so did they went away together at the end??
No, Rebecca never showed up.
Ok, I might say something controversial...
I read 4 books by Moshfegh, and Eileen was the weakest for me... BUT, the book was so slow with loads of thoughts of Eileen, this feeling of discomfort, body dysmorphia, mumbling, thinking, and I just wanted to see a movie to compare. In the book, all the things, that happen, are well understood. Without a book, movie is just... unfinished, bleak, extremely lacking any kind of context. Eileen is so empty, NOT as described in a book.
But I love Anne by the way =)
Hollywood hates gingers I swear smh. Anyways lol, I saw a theory about the movie saying that the Rebecca Eileen went out to drink with and the Rebecca in the final act was Eileen’s imagination. The woman she wanted to become. Which is why at the bar they switched names. How do you feel about this theory when it comes to the movie and book for that matter?
I don't think they were the same person, but I could see why some people view it that way. That idea might fit more with the movie but yeah, either way I think Rebecca was a real person.
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What a bad ending the movie had .
It was very abrupt!
Here is the explanation for ending…………….you just watched the worst movie Ever made.
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Man-hating melodrama
Lol I don't know where you're getting that
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@@WhytheBookWinsignore the InceI, they’re easily triggered by women existing.
easy to hate such horrid creatures.
@@WhytheBookWins his videos are woman-hating incel drivel.