@@Neojhun “The chair of FIU's Civil & Environmental Engineering Department Atorod Azizinamini called the bridge's construction a milestone last week.” Of course that was before it collapsed and killed people.
@@aboethius7756 So the first article I found which referenced both his name and the bridge notes that it wasn't designed by anyone at the university and that the bidders that won contracts included the FIGG Bridge Group as designers. FULL STOP.
I remember not so long ago that UA-cam wouldn't allow advertisements on things that were so disturbing to the community. Not anymore, make money wherever you can is their attitude. Except for this video.
@Jason Karl No worries mate I do find it amusing how you managed to deduce from my single line comment that I dont care about where the country is heading. I meant no one cares about your grammar check, not the political views. Im not political, at least i try not to be!
Journalism is dead in the US except maybe the local news. All these latest journalists are Rush Limbaughs or Keith Olbermanns, commentators completely reporting from their personal perspective, not reporting conditions on the ground.
Being close to water has nothing to do with it. Its the foundation that matters. All of manhattan is basically at sea level, just yards from the sea but it has fantastic, solid bedrock as a foundation
Should be pretty detailed maintenance logs engineers can refer to as well to ensure repairs were dealt with correctly. That could be another factor, perhaps there were structural issues that needed attention that were either put off or done incorrectly. Think Sampoong Mall in South Korea was similar.
In my experience, which may be biased, community associations such as the ones that run condos do not always keep great records. Often, they hire a management company. Each manager may be responsible for several communities. Required training for managers is minimal and turnover in the profession is high. If an association changes management companies, the transfer of records is often very poor. I would not automatically assume that detailed records were kept. The association seems to have units of decent value, which helps, but the fact that they had to get a loan for the roof repairs says to me that they may not have made the best decisions in running the condo association. That's super jaded of me to say, and I'm not blaming that for the collapse, but I do think records may not be as available as you'd think.
The man has good hair, that's for sure. He's also possesses an engineering scientific mind. He's a man that can dissect one and still look good without a single hairstrand out of place. 🤭
it was an implosion, If you slow down the video from the webcam you will see white spots appear around the building before collapse, the building fell free fall, the building fell in the middle and then the outside, just like a demotion, also the free standing building that was left, was meant to collapse as well. WE need someone there videoing all of this, this is a mini 911.
@@nolandlacroix3130 HA, you really believe that ?. when glass flexes at all it breaks, most of the time, if the building flexed and it didnt do that, then so be it, but there where white flashes all around including behind the building in the smoke as the front of the building collapsed. look more carefully.
My question is why did it fail so completely. That building pancaked on itself like it was demolish by a demolition team. How did it have that kind of extreme failure?
They were in the process of doing a 40-year recertification and update while this collapse happened they were working on the roof the electrical and the foundation and also there was a fresh built building directly across the street they are thinking that might have caused soil erosion
Same thing happened to Crab Cooker in Newport, CA ...it took 2-3 yrs to repair the foundation and rebuild entire building. IAllegedly did good video on UA-cam
Spread the word - ALL CONCRETE HIGHRISES WITHOUT STEEL SUPPORT BEAMS ARE IN DANGER OF COLLAPSE. Era of increased solar radiation is deeply penetrating and drying out the water entrapped molecular cohesion of the concrete causing it to get brittle, weaken, and disintegrate. -Like a mountain topped with heavy snow it could be a mere BANG! noise to trigger an avalanche collapse.
@@sara-gr5uu Spread the word - ALL CONCRETE HIGHRISES WITHOUT STEEL SUPPORT BEAMS ARE IN DANGER OF COLLAPSE. Era of increased solar radiation is deeply penetrating and drying out the water entrapped molecular cohesion of the concrete causing it to get brittle, weaken, and disintegrate. -Like a mountain topped with heavy snow it could be a mere BANG! noise to trigger an avalanche collapse.
I live in Los Angeles but I grew up in Florida and I spend a lot of time in South Florida. I have driven past this building. I am just devastated by the tragic news and completely perplexed as to how it could have happened. Anybody have any ideas as to what brought this building down? One thought I had was that in 1981 when this building was constructed everyone had Carpeted Floors and Formica countertops. Now all the units have Tile Floors and Quartz or Granite countertops. I'm sure that's not the reason but the thought did pass my mind. I'm a Realtor in Beverly Hills CA and I have come across weight restrictions in Condo units in the past. Any thoughts?
Horrible indeed. I heard the woman lawyer refer to the 2018 report as in nothing in that document gave them a sense of urgency. That nothing was highlighted or in big bold letters to emphasize it was that bad 🤦🏼♀️.
lol, we'll keep protecting the sheep (democrats) from themselves... lol, it's not easy trying to help them though. With no IQ reading between the lines is a tough task... mesmerized, perfect analogy.
@@adiraodeda7962 😊💙 YES! Absolutely! My fondness for his hair(dresser) is clearly not the lead in this story 🤔😑. Goodnight peeps, I'm done for the day 😶.
Spread the word - ALL CONCRETE HIGHRISES WITHOUT STEEL SUPPORT BEAMS ARE IN DANGER OF COLLAPSE. Era of increased solar radiation is deeply penetrating and drying out the water entrapped molecular cohesion of the concrete causing it to get brittle, weaken, and disintegrate. -Like a mountain topped with heavy snow it could be a mere BANG! noise to trigger an avalanche collapse.
This guy knows what’s he is talking about, note this for every local news he didn’t even mention anything about maintenance that will cause this catastrophe!
Looks like the weak spot of the structure might have been the stilts who are relatively thin and seem to support a lot of the structure as seen on the other side of the building - a small sinkhole underneath the stilt or rusting steel in the stilts would probably be enough for this catastrophic event to occur - my prayers go out to all the families all individuals and not least to those who are still missing - a terrible tragedy
If it was a well built structure, it could not crumble like this. Concrete may be not mixed right and the reinforced steel was unbalanced designed. Any special inspection engineering lab can analyze the concrete strength. 70% I can predict that the concrete was not mixed right.
The engineers who calculated the loads screwed up. There's photos of the units with 2" thick travertine marble tiles. Most of the condos were probably renovated and all heavy add-ons exceeded the carrying load of the building. Look at photos of the roof with every condo having its own air conditioning condenser unit. Those are heavy and adds up. Plus they were workign on the already overloaded roof with heavy equipment and that was the cause of the progressive (or disproportionate) collapse of the entire structure. It was obviously not over-built because it's laying on the ground
Multiple eyewitnesses said they saw the pool deck and garage area of the Surfside condo fall before the rest of the building collapsed. So there is solid proof as to what caused the initial failure. It could be either Foundation failure or Rebar Corrosion on pool deck.
What a name and a look? Someone blew up his hair before the interview. Or universities are recruiting from rock bands. He has another gig as a musician.
Some people will take samples and other people will test those samples and then some other people will put that info into computers and the computers will let us know what happened
There was a major quake in the Caribbean a couple of years ago that was felt in Miami. The epicenter was just south east of Cuba. Over 7.0 if I remember correctly.
@@Nintendo101Channel the FL peninsula is over one hundred feet above sea level in central Florida areas such as Orlando and many other areas, and even higher in places.
A few days before the collapse the Navy exploded a new type of weapon that registered on the Richter scale in Florida. Could this have been a result of such an explosion it was 100 miles off coast.
A couple years ago, a tenant there sued HOA of that building. He told them that he felt the building shaking. Some tenants also complained about mold, crack of the building too. Your conspiracy theory is crazy. If the Navy did something like you said, then other old building would collapse too. But, only this building is collapsed. Your theory made no sense whatsoever.
@@mathildaapril1175 maybe the sand where this building is located could have liquify or create a sinkhole nothing to do with structure of building. No conspiracy just a fact the test happened and all situations should be looked into.
Yeah. Especially anything that is built on former wetlands should be inspected after every flood or hurricane. People think they can "fill in" swamps and coastal wetlands to be "safe"... They never take into account that water tables rise and fall leaving gaps where their "fill" used to be.
Uneven load on the roof would cause the roof to collapse not the lower levels. The collapse started down low. An uneven load on the roof does not do this.
Look at the Google Earth videos of the surrounding area, seems there was some construction next door. Is that building in danger also? ⚠️ I assume the inspectors will be looking at everything very closely in that area now.
All of S. Florida is built on the swiss cheese foundation of porous coral/limestone rock. Not granite, not basalt. What's truly amazing is that these hi-rise collapses don't happen all the time.
The piles do not sit on granite, as you say. Instead the piles are driven down and down until friction or rock does not permit further depth of penetration using a specified force. Then all the pilings are capped and linked, in 3 dimensions, to create a box-like structure above.
I come from New York City, where buildings have a foundation of solid granite. I can't even imagine the thought process going into buying an apartment built on a landfill. Beneath that is nothing but reclaimed swamp. Those poor people ❤️
@@ciaobella65 but Ralph, you know the Venetians built a magnificent city on top of a swamp! Yes, it’s true the original campanile in St Mark’s Square collapsed. But the cathedral is 1000 years old. Stick to Manhattan Schist!
These buildings have significant corrosion, rising water table, new buildings with new foundations that may have negative affects in the neighboring old buildings, inadequate inspections, added weight over the years and also earthquake induced by the USA Navy 3.9 magnitude on June 18, 2021 off Florida East Coast that may have had influence on the collapse.
In examining the surveillance video of the collapse, you can see flashes of light on several floors, seconds before floors pancake onto one another. It sure looks suspiciously like a planned building demolition to me.
I agree. If you look at the cloud of smoke-it is black at core. Building in China that collapse-shake first. No shaking here. My government picked this building because of the cracks. My government is sick.
For over 30 years they knew the building was sinking. Probably because it was measured in millimeters (2 per year) and they got confused about the translation to standard measurements, figured "Ah, that's no big deal. Call us back in about ten years or so."
What is the context of it sinking? If it is just sinking perfectly vertically nothing will happen other then eventually being underground, loads would be the same. If one corner was falling by 2mm/yr you are still talking only 6cm total which would be about 4 inches (unlikely only 1 corner would fall) and you are talking a decent horizontal distance for that 4" fall too that it would be of a minimal magnitude.
@@ryanwright9460 The CC tape showed that a portion of the building fell first followed shortly by another section. If a building such as this has a corner begin to sink cracks will and did form. They were basically ignored. The weight load of the building would shift the gravity center towards the dip. This would cause an undue amount of force on one part of the building while the other part was just fine sitting where it was. So the sinking part simply separated from the rest and fell.
@@rondohunter8966 i think it had minimal to do with it, you are talking 2.4" over a 100-200ft span to hit the extreme scenario of your lack of context. The report of it sinking 2mm/yr is likely in reference to the whole building, however not in the ideal uniform sinking that the distribution of stresses would be the same which would make the shift in loading less than a change of 2.4in/150ft and that is including the surveyors measurement errors from before and after each check.
@@ryanwright9460 That may be true. You seem well-versed, it will be interesting to see what the final verdict is on this disaster. Yes, a year or so on down the line we'll get a report. Thanks for the discussion, you raise viable issues.
Common denominator I'm hearing from all the experts is that it's going to take time and it's going to be a combination of factors that led to this, not one smoking gun.
@@jasoncrandall73 Thanks, Jason. Did you happen to catch the 6/26 am press conference There's talk of evacuation of similar condos in the area. It'll be interesting when the investigation is complete. Hope the fires are extinguished soon so the teams can get in there. Reminds me of the WTC challenges a bit.
As the media winds this up to get ratings.... the simple truth is that this is a structural engineering problem, and any speculation on causes is pointless until the engineers look at this. Frankly the only people anyone should be listening to are this guy and his peers in the field. On a related note, when good engineers warn you about something, take those warning seriously. short version; let the science people do the science stuff
Professionally side stepped the question. You could have just said, I don't know. It was obviously a failure of the columns some where in the parking garage in the center of the building. Caused by moisture, sediment flow and corrosion.
@@tmeservey2723 It's been around. Kennedy assassination comes to mind. They still get worked up about that. My guess is ego - a way for a lazy dimwit to feel important through having access to "secret information" on Fox or some obscure website.
In the end this comment will be correct. The talking heads will lead you through a maze of confusion. The roof was loaded with Materials , BITUMEN ROLLS = PALLETS WEIGHING 1800 LBS, hot mop tar rolls, plastic debris and roofing garbage, A large steel beam red iron, a chiller , all the ac units constantly leaking on the roof(attributing to rust). The roof steel was not (centered in the slab and was ripped out of tower still standing) = changing angular momentum axis of slab. Witnesses, worker across the street heard and saw water . Witness Cohen and his wife stated garage was filled with water to just under his knees when he tried to escape after the collapse. The pool did not lose any water. We had torrential rains before the collapse. We all know roofers do not clean up at the end of the day . ***Paper and plastic debris everywhere*** Roof had parapet walls and roof drains . If the roof drains clogged from debris and the roof flooded , this weight along with material weight would have overloaded columns and caused the collapse . When they stock roofing materials it is by crane and if they do not disperse the weight they can make a column or slab break easy .
@@ErinsEnergy313 So what are you saying, "buddy"? There were atomic rockets on top? When a building collapses it's going to "free fall" as accelerated by gravity, always. "Buddy".
What's McAfee's lawers last name? Look up that name in the missing people from the fl condo collapse. What was Peru and El Salvador up to? Hint: Private Coins > Private Western Central Bank
Wow. Wow. Did his lawyer stay in the condo???? Possible...... Just baffled by the coincidence and connections. Maybe the USBs with lots of information were all in the condo???? But bringing down the entire building? Was there any other option?
@@jeramykelton5304 Jeramy I live in Australia. Everybody is sleep walking here. Please elaborate . I really want to hear more. I don't know what was in Oklahoma building. I know more about 911 and the Gold vaults. In brief can you give your possible scenario. ????
My amateur prediction? Water intrusion. Water is a force of nature. I'm sure that there will be a number of factors involved, but I'm positive that ongoing, longterm water intrusion will be among them.
@@musiccalgary subsidence can contribute. But I suspect substandard concrete. The sister building had chunks of concrete falling off a basement column.
Sure they do, WTC 1, 2 & 7 were superbly constructed & yet they were disappeared in less than an hour. 8777 Collins Ave. is controlled demo 101 or do my lyin' eyes deceive me?
@@lorenzomoog1205 I’m no conspiracy theory nut. But, yes. That’s exactly wat a controlled demolition would look like. Blow d critical columns in d middle. Blow all d shear joints at each level of slab. Central core section collapses, pulling remaining corner building into a nice neat pile in d middle. But I’m no conspiracy theorist…
The collapse started at the pool area, next the center front colums(3) pull down the mid section and last the siut section(15 sec later). The water proofing at the pool deck was in dire condition, water was leaking into the garage area and destroyed the repairs in columns. When rusting happens the metal expands and the concrete falling off in chunks. This further weakens the columns until it collapses. BTW this is how building demolition happens with explosives too, by putting under load bearing columns. The whole process start slowly and speed up exponentially in a relatively short time. The water also can was the dirt out under the garage floor which further weakens the structure. They should start the repairs in the pool and garage area not the roof. Utterly negligent behavior.
From the video...it looks like the middle right collapsed first, IF they were replacing some things with the foundation and did not have it supported properly...the temp supports could have failed causing immediate collapse. No one noticed or heard a thing as everyone was asleep. That is a BIG IF. We have to wait on the engineers and architects...they will get to the bottom of it.
There were reports the building was built on unstable earth and has been sinking for decades. It could have been triggered by the Navy testing that bomb off of Daytona Beach. Which registered as causing a 3.5 earthquake. So if it was unstable already, its quiet possibly a perfect storm.
Update: this was just a speculation yet further reports show residents reported the visual defects in the building. Management ignored the integrity of the building being compromised ua-cam.com/video/TrP-Zl7NHzE/v-deo.html Beautiful story of a couple and their family's loss ua-cam.com/video/4_yS5t_8oL4/v-deo.html
Atorod Azizinamini is not saying anything that has been said already , and what he said at the beginning of the interview is a question that everyone has asked how did this happen , well it happened because the Ownership of Champlain Condominium did not care to invest in keeping the Champlain Condominium in working order and there is a saying what you don't see can't hurt you , that's what the Ownership of Champlain Condominium not only said it was what they believed to be true . The infrastructure is more important than the appearance and it is not seen as readily as the outside of the Condominium , Mr. Azizinamini is not saying anything that puts the burden on the Ownership and the Slum Lording of profits that were being paid to them , what he should have said is that a cold and calculated decision was made long ago with the Knowledge that it would be forty years before a full inspection of the Condominium would happen and in that time the only improvements were cosmetic .
I would suggest you watch several controlled demolitions, then watch this one. There are numerous telltale differences. Chiefly among them, there is no "pattern" of blasts that run the length or height of the towers. There are a few flashes near the roof where the electrical connections to the A/C systems reside, and a few other random flashes that could easily be attributable to the glass reflecting nearby lights. The only way it resembles a controlled demolition is that the building falls down. I challenge you to show that it could have fallen differently while starting as a static object in Earth's gravitational field.
@@daytonduck im not disagreeing with you. I have seen/watched many videos of controled demolition in my youtube viewer span over the years. Im just saying that looks like fowl play. An in todays world it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
How the hell would you put all the carefully timed explosives into an inhabited building? And why blow up this one particular building full of unknown people? That's right, it sounds stupid, doesn't it?
What? Do you think Florida is a progressive state? Why waste money reinforcing buildings when they're just fine as they stand? We can't plan for everything, so why plan for anything? Florida state motto, Lol!
All buildings are designed not to collapse. This one stood for 40 years. Either there was deterioration of material, alterations to the structure, or subsidence; most likely a combination of above.
@@LardGreystoke Evening news said possible intrusion of water due to faulty waterproofing, for over 30 yrs. That can certainly affect the infrastructure. They were in the process of beginning a multi-million dollar remodeling of the building...but they were a few days too late. The roof work would not take such an extraordinarily long time so that rainwater would enter, however that may have been the case for the past three decades; a steady flow of water though a small leak or leaks would not be good. I agree, deterioration of material and subsidence is what I've narrowed it down to. At this time barring more info.
The building wasn't required to be re-certified for forty years. It was built in 1981...whoops! Too late. Plus they overlooked the building sinking 2mm per year for 30 years.
Watch the video in the garage and listen to what eye witnesses and survived tenets said they Hurd.... I know someone saw more then they want to share.... it wasn't an accident, but I don't wanna get anyone saying I'm crazy, but truly pay attention to that video 7 minutes before the collaps.
Looking at Zillow, this complex had a wide range. 3 bd 2 ba 1748 sq ft recently sold for $710,000. While a 4bd 4 ba 4500 sq ft sold for $2,880,000. A 2 bd 2 ba 1672 sq ft sold at the end of April for $610,000. There are also 1bd 2 ba 1200 sq ft in the building.
So glad someone moved fast to hear it from a true structural engineer. Thank You
Look up his name - collapsed Sweetwater Pedestrian Bridge.
@@aboethius7756 Yep that's a Bridge at the College he TEACHES at.
@@Neojhun “The chair of FIU's Civil & Environmental Engineering Department Atorod Azizinamini called the bridge's construction a milestone last week.”
Of course that was before it collapsed and killed people.
@@aboethius7756 So the first article I found which referenced both his name and the bridge notes that it wasn't designed by anyone at the university and that the bidders that won contracts included the FIGG Bridge Group as designers. FULL STOP.
@@DrewNorthup keep reading. 😂
At the end, he should have done a 2-minute guitar solo.
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Funny you should say this because I thought I accidentally clicked on a video tutorial on how to play the guitar intro to Sweet Child O Mine...
hahaha, beautiful hair for his age.
Lmfao
@@tinian33 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
I want this guy to join my 80's hair metal cover band.
He’s got great hair.
Yes! Giorgio!
Thank you for this one! Best comment of all. I feel guilty but I laughed myself silly!
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@@francescacangialosi8724 me too
This was very educational. Most news is full of drama and opions.
Hey now, that's why I tune into YT for all my news.
@Jason Karl no one cares
I remember not so long ago that UA-cam wouldn't allow advertisements on things that were so disturbing to the community. Not anymore, make money wherever you can is their attitude. Except for this video.
@Jason Karl No worries mate I do find it amusing how you managed to deduce from my single line comment that I dont care about where the country is heading. I meant no one cares about your grammar check, not the political views. Im not political, at least i try not to be!
Journalism is dead in the US except maybe the local news. All these latest journalists are Rush Limbaughs or Keith Olbermanns, commentators completely reporting from their personal perspective, not reporting conditions on the ground.
He looks like he owns white tigers
😂🤣 yes
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What does that even mean 😂
The most interesting man in the world!
Lol
People have a fixation with living by the water. Its surprising that more events like this havent happen
Being close to water has nothing to do with it. Its the foundation that matters. All of manhattan is basically at sea level, just yards from the sea but it has fantastic, solid bedrock as a foundation
Many, not ALL of those same people have a fixation with manipulating societal conditions for others to live in squalor.
@@tia9583 And that's how the rich get richer, the poor stay there.
Thank you for this interview
Should be pretty detailed maintenance logs engineers can refer to as well to ensure repairs were dealt with correctly. That could be another factor, perhaps there were structural issues that needed attention that were either put off or done incorrectly. Think Sampoong Mall in South Korea was similar.
In my experience, which may be biased, community associations such as the ones that run condos do not always keep great records. Often, they hire a management company. Each manager may be responsible for several communities. Required training for managers is minimal and turnover in the profession is high. If an association changes management companies, the transfer of records is often very poor. I would not automatically assume that detailed records were kept. The association seems to have units of decent value, which helps, but the fact that they had to get a loan for the roof repairs says to me that they may not have made the best decisions in running the condo association. That's super jaded of me to say, and I'm not blaming that for the collapse, but I do think records may not be as available as you'd think.
Apparantley this is the case, an engineer has came out saying he warned if thus 3 years ago.
The man has good hair, that's for sure.
He's also possesses an engineering scientific mind.
He's a man that can dissect one and still look good without a single hairstrand out of place. 🤭
lol
Hahaha good comment.
Everytime he says building, picture a 900 ton footbridge.
Did he review the FIU bridge? 🤔
Thanks for the interview and sharing the comments from the best of the experts
it was an implosion, If you slow down the video from the webcam you will see white spots appear around the building before collapse, the building fell free fall, the building fell in the middle and then the outside, just like a demotion, also the free standing building that was left, was meant to collapse as well. WE need someone there videoing all of this, this is a mini 911.
The white spots were reflections of the glass as the building began flexing.
@@nolandlacroix3130 HA, you really believe that ?. when glass flexes at all it breaks, most of the time, if the building flexed and it didnt do that, then so be it, but there where white flashes all around including behind the building in the smoke as the front of the building collapsed. look more carefully.
Hair flows endlessly through time and space.
It’s like an infinite river connecting us all to eternity.
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Such hair as his is free of quantum entanglement.
Physicists, quantum engineers, and scholars all working diligently to figure out this hair
@@jimanders8812 Just got word. Neil deGrasse Tyson and Michio Kaku are on their way to visit this engineer. This is getting better all the time.
This was wonderfully informative.
It was blown up
Where is the rest of the band? I have all this guys albums!
My question is why did it fail so completely. That building pancaked on itself like it was demolish by a demolition team. How did it have that kind of extreme failure?
take a look at the roof repair order and equipment they added. It was filled with AC units already.
Hey, it's the Florida Footbridge University! Experts in structural engineering.
They were in the process of doing a 40-year recertification and update while this collapse happened they were working on the roof the electrical and the foundation and also there was a fresh built building directly across the street they are thinking that might have caused soil erosion
Same thing happened to Crab Cooker in Newport, CA ...it took 2-3 yrs to repair the foundation and rebuild entire building. IAllegedly did good video on UA-cam
Spread the word - ALL CONCRETE HIGHRISES WITHOUT STEEL SUPPORT BEAMS ARE IN DANGER OF COLLAPSE. Era of increased solar radiation is deeply penetrating and drying out the water entrapped molecular cohesion of the concrete causing it to get brittle, weaken, and disintegrate. -Like a mountain topped with heavy snow it could be a mere BANG! noise to trigger an avalanche collapse.
Would not explain falling into the foot print.
Weaknesses would be in areas thus collapse would be random and much more destruction.
@@sara-gr5uu Spread the word - ALL CONCRETE HIGHRISES WITHOUT STEEL SUPPORT BEAMS ARE IN DANGER OF COLLAPSE. Era of increased solar radiation is deeply penetrating and drying out the water entrapped molecular cohesion of the concrete causing it to get brittle, weaken, and disintegrate. -Like a mountain topped with heavy snow it could be a mere BANG! noise to trigger an avalanche collapse.
@@termination9353 dumb.
I live in Los Angeles but I grew up in Florida and I spend a lot of time in South Florida. I have driven past this building. I am just devastated by the tragic news and completely perplexed as to how it could have happened. Anybody have any ideas as to what brought this building down? One thought I had was that in 1981 when this building was constructed everyone had Carpeted Floors and Formica countertops. Now all the units have Tile Floors and Quartz or Granite countertops. I'm sure that's not the reason but the thought did pass my mind. I'm a Realtor in Beverly Hills CA and I have come across weight restrictions in Condo units in the past. Any thoughts?
My thoughts are a sinkhole very deep since no one reports cracking.
@@Mrdsmith500 yes.
Cracking was reported.
@@LardGreystoke yes I heard cracking was reported.
@@LardGreystoke and in the Identical sister building the pillars in the garage are decaying.
Don't forget insurance companies have skin in this game. Where do they get off insuring this mess.
The attorney for the association publicly asking why FIU didn’t notify them of their findings- really? Blamegame about to start
It's on already
Horrible indeed. I heard the woman lawyer refer to the 2018 report as in nothing in that document gave them a sense of urgency. That nothing was highlighted or in big bold letters to emphasize it was that bad 🤦🏼♀️.
I can see him, walking the beaches of Miami with those dark Biden aviators, green speedo, a crowd of people mesmerized, following him..
lol, we'll keep protecting the sheep (democrats) from themselves... lol, it's not easy trying to help them though. With no IQ reading between the lines is a tough task... mesmerized, perfect analogy.
Where I come from speedos are called budgie smugglers.
YES
Can we take a moment and acknowledge this man's hairdresser 🔥
I'm more Interested in what he is saying
@@adiraodeda7962 😊💙 YES! Absolutely! My fondness for his hair(dresser) is clearly not the lead in this story 🤔😑. Goodnight peeps, I'm done for the day 😶.
Thanks to the 18 people who 👍 this.
@@adiraodeda7962 Macy Gray!!! 💙💙💙💙💙💙
@@JuliahFL lol triggered?
Someone is responsible no matter what
@@JuliahFL you can’t be serious.
Spread the word - ALL CONCRETE HIGHRISES WITHOUT STEEL SUPPORT BEAMS ARE IN DANGER OF COLLAPSE. Era of increased solar radiation is deeply penetrating and drying out the water entrapped molecular cohesion of the concrete causing it to get brittle, weaken, and disintegrate. -Like a mountain topped with heavy snow it could be a mere BANG! noise to trigger an avalanche collapse.
@@DylanRollinss 😀
FIU is well versed on collapsed structures and subjecting the public to such a risk.
As I recall FIU did not design that walkway. Please tell me where to research that
@@22howards Yes Engineering Dept project.
He needs to work on that 80s feathered flip mullet! Don Johnson would be like daaaayum!
His hair!!! Magnifique monsieur!
yes...lol
This guy knows what’s he is talking about, note this for every local news he didn’t even mention anything about maintenance that will cause this catastrophe!
What a truly impressive man, so knowledgeable, but no ego. Something kind of shamanic about his energy also. Quite an experience to listen to him.
Looks like the weak spot of the structure might have been the stilts who are relatively thin and seem to support a lot of the structure as seen on the other side of the building - a small sinkhole underneath the stilt or rusting steel in the stilts would probably be enough for this catastrophic event to occur - my prayers go out to all the families all individuals and not least to those who are still missing - a terrible tragedy
If it was a well built structure, it could not crumble like this. Concrete may be not mixed right and the reinforced steel was unbalanced designed. Any special inspection engineering lab can analyze the concrete strength. 70% I can predict that the concrete was not mixed right.
Agree. The concrete just crumbled
Is this guy don johnson's 80's double in Miami Vice?
The engineers who calculated the loads screwed up. There's photos of the units with 2" thick travertine marble tiles. Most of the condos were probably renovated and all heavy add-ons exceeded the carrying load of the building. Look at photos of the roof with every condo having its own air conditioning condenser unit. Those are heavy and adds up. Plus they were workign on the already overloaded roof with heavy equipment and that was the cause of the progressive (or disproportionate) collapse of the entire structure. It was obviously not over-built because it's laying on the ground
took out walls to to open up space I bet
When did Yanni become an engineering professor?
Well, music obviously didn't work for him.
Multiple eyewitnesses said they saw the pool deck and garage area of the Surfside condo fall before the rest of the building collapsed. So there is solid proof as to what caused the initial failure. It could be either Foundation failure or Rebar Corrosion on pool deck.
What a name and a look? Someone blew up his hair before the interview. Or universities are recruiting from rock bands. He has another gig as a musician.
Some people will take samples and other people will test those samples and then some other people will put that info into computers and the computers will let us know what happened
First question is why is the collapse video edited?
Tell us about the FIU Bridge Collapse! You have a lot of chatter on this structure, how about telling us about your ''work of art"...
Didn’t FIU try to build a pedestrian bridge that collapsed so not sure of their competence.
There was a major quake in the Caribbean a couple of years ago that was felt in Miami. The epicenter was just south east of Cuba. Over 7.0 if I remember correctly.
Beautiful hair and a smart man.
GREAT HAIR !!!
yes
Saltwater the seeping into these buildings and it's been happening for a long time so this will not be the last building breaking in half
America's infrastructure is crumbling
The swamp areas in Florida is not the greatest place to build building. The peninsula will be underwater within the next century or so.
@@Nintendo101Channel the FL peninsula is over one hundred feet above sea level in central Florida areas such as Orlando and many other areas, and even higher in places.
@@LichaelMewis Are you kidding? Look at a map. Florida is one giant coral reef waiting to relapse.
you are not an engineer obviously... you probably watch CNN too. God bless ya. :)
A few days before the collapse the Navy exploded a new type of weapon that registered on the Richter scale in Florida. Could this have been a result of such an explosion it was 100 miles off coast.
A couple years ago, a tenant there sued HOA of that building. He told them that he felt the building shaking. Some tenants also complained about mold, crack of the building too. Your conspiracy theory is crazy. If the Navy did something like you said, then other old building would collapse too. But, only this building is collapsed. Your theory made no sense whatsoever.
@@mathildaapril1175 maybe the sand where this building is located could have liquify or create a sinkhole nothing to do with structure of building. No conspiracy just a fact the test happened and all situations should be looked into.
Probably was a sink hole due to erosion. Florida has been catching a lot hurricanes lately.
Yeah. Especially anything that is built on former wetlands should be inspected after every flood or hurricane. People think they can "fill in" swamps and coastal wetlands to be "safe"... They never take into account that water tables rise and fall leaving gaps where their "fill" used to be.
reparing the roof, it collapsed from the center. Uneven load from repair material?
Uneven load on the roof would cause the roof to collapse not the lower levels. The collapse started down low. An uneven load on the roof does not do this.
Look at the Google Earth videos of the surrounding area, seems there was some construction next door. Is that building in danger also? ⚠️ I assume the inspectors will be looking at everything very closely in that area now.
All of S. Florida is built on the swiss cheese foundation of porous coral/limestone rock. Not granite, not basalt. What's truly amazing is that these hi-rise collapses don't happen all the time.
The piles do not sit on granite, as you say. Instead the piles are driven down and down until friction or rock does not permit further depth of penetration using a specified force. Then all the pilings are capped and linked, in 3 dimensions, to create a box-like structure above.
I come from New York City, where buildings have a foundation of solid granite. I can't even imagine the thought process going into buying an apartment built on a landfill. Beneath that is nothing but reclaimed swamp. Those poor people ❤️
@@ciaobella65 but Ralph, you know the Venetians built a magnificent city on top of a swamp! Yes, it’s true the original campanile in St Mark’s Square collapsed. But the cathedral is 1000 years old. Stick to Manhattan Schist!
@@apga1998 your point is extremely valid 👍
@@apga1998 I just feel absolutely terrible for these families who have lost loved ones... It's so heartbreaking to see that on the news
Potential sinkholes?
Buildings BUILT for Hurricanes.. lets not forget that
Sinkholes??
@@SnakeJones09 Very possible. I posted a video on it right after it happen on my channel!
40 years old. I don't think so
@@alienal8278 ok so where are the other 40 year old buildings crumbling from the middle at?
How much Chinese steel was used? 🤨
Out of balance ACunit fan causing frequency?
study in 1990 said it was sinking 1/2 inch a year they did nothing
More like 2 millimeters.
@@LardGreystoke sinking, according to a study using NASA airborne radar Up to two inches a year were the highest subsidence rates found
@@LardGreystoke thats not only building that came down the same way in that area in the pass that whole area been sinking just been cover up
Isn't this guy the Three's Company Larry??
This guy is badass. Great engineering explanation.
These buildings have significant corrosion, rising water table, new buildings with new foundations that may have negative affects in the neighboring old buildings, inadequate inspections, added weight over the years and also earthquake induced by the USA Navy 3.9 magnitude on June 18, 2021 off Florida East Coast that may have had influence on the collapse.
In examining the surveillance video of the collapse, you can see flashes of light on several floors, seconds before floors pancake onto one another. It sure looks suspiciously like a planned building demolition to me.
Unless for some reason the building had electrical connections or gas lines.
I agree. If you look at the cloud of smoke-it is black at core. Building in China that collapse-shake first. No shaking here. My government picked this building because of the cracks. My government is sick.
OKLAHOMA city anyone? Ffs it looks like exactly the same wth
Oklahoma city was a fertilizer bomb. Totally different.
@@LardGreystoke Maybe you should research that. So many strange things about it from the children to how the building fell.
@@cherylpringle3397 Okay I'll research it. The building in Oklahoma was blown up by a bomb. This wasn't.
Researchers indicated the building had been sinking since the 1990s.
For over 30 years they knew the building was sinking. Probably because it was measured in millimeters (2 per year) and they got confused about the translation to standard measurements, figured "Ah, that's no big deal. Call us back in about ten years or so."
What is the context of it sinking? If it is just sinking perfectly vertically nothing will happen other then eventually being underground, loads would be the same. If one corner was falling by 2mm/yr you are still talking only 6cm total which would be about 4 inches (unlikely only 1 corner would fall) and you are talking a decent horizontal distance for that 4" fall too that it would be of a minimal magnitude.
@@ryanwright9460 The CC tape showed that a portion of the building fell first followed shortly by another section. If a building such as this has a corner begin to sink cracks will and did form. They were basically ignored. The weight load of the building would shift the gravity center towards the dip. This would cause an undue amount of force on one part of the building while the other part was just fine sitting where it was. So the sinking part simply separated from the rest and fell.
@@rondohunter8966 i think it had minimal to do with it, you are talking 2.4" over a 100-200ft span to hit the extreme scenario of your lack of context. The report of it sinking 2mm/yr is likely in reference to the whole building, however not in the ideal uniform sinking that the distribution of stresses would be the same which would make the shift in loading less than a change of 2.4in/150ft and that is including the surveyors measurement errors from before and after each check.
@@ryanwright9460 That may be true. You seem well-versed, it will be interesting to see what the final verdict is on this disaster. Yes, a year or so on down the line we'll get a report. Thanks for the discussion, you raise viable issues.
FIU is the expert on collapses.
Is he a licensed professional engineer in the state of Florida? Any US state?
He is a degreed engineer and chairman of the engineering department.
Common denominator I'm hearing from all the experts is that it's going to take time and it's going to be a combination of factors that led to this, not one smoking gun.
Is this that musician Yanni.???
There is a good article just released regarding FIU research on the area and that it has been sinking 2mm a year since the 1990s.
A few experts have since stated that 2mm is not a bad thing but 1" or more is. They also stated all high rise structures sink a little bit over time.
@@jasoncrandall73 Thanks, Jason. Did you happen to catch the 6/26 am press conference There's talk of evacuation of similar condos in the area. It'll be interesting when the investigation is complete. Hope the fires are extinguished soon so the teams can get in there. Reminds me of the WTC challenges a bit.
You heard it wrong. They said that they found the building sink 2mm in the 90s. It did not say that it has been sinking since 1990s to now.
Too bad his hair wasn’t there to hold the building up! So much volume🤯
Yo!😂
As the media winds this up to get ratings.... the simple truth is that this is a structural engineering problem, and any speculation on causes is pointless until the engineers look at this. Frankly the only people anyone should be listening to are this guy and his peers in the field.
On a related note, when good engineers warn you about something, take those warning seriously.
short version; let the science people do the science stuff
Great explanation
I know there weren't any explosions heard but it looks like it was purposely done.
Professionally side stepped the question. You could have just said, I don't know. It was obviously a failure of the columns some where in the parking garage in the center of the building. Caused by moisture, sediment flow and corrosion.
Could it have been a sink hole?
Sounds like the building needed larger footings and pilings..
*What in the 9/11 is going on here* 🤔
Also the Oklahoma bombing 🤯 Smells awfully fishy 🤨
Yeah. An obscure condo in Florida is obviously the center of a global conspiracy. Space aliens!!! ANAL PROBES!!!!!!
@@LardGreystoke how did conspiracy nuts become so common?
@@tmeservey2723 It's been around. Kennedy assassination comes to mind. They still get worked up about that. My guess is ego - a way for a lazy dimwit to feel important through having access to "secret information" on Fox or some obscure website.
In the end this comment will be correct. The talking heads will lead you through a maze of confusion. The roof was loaded with Materials , BITUMEN ROLLS = PALLETS WEIGHING 1800 LBS, hot mop tar rolls, plastic debris and roofing garbage, A large steel beam red iron, a chiller , all the ac units constantly leaking on the roof(attributing to rust). The roof steel was not (centered in the slab and was ripped out of tower still standing) = changing angular momentum axis of slab.
Witnesses, worker across the street heard and saw water .
Witness Cohen and his wife stated garage was filled with water to just under his knees when he tried to escape after the collapse.
The pool did not lose any water.
We had torrential rains before the collapse.
We all know roofers do not clean up at the end of the day . ***Paper and plastic debris everywhere***
Roof had parapet walls and roof drains . If the roof drains clogged from debris and the roof flooded , this weight along with material weight would have overloaded columns and caused the collapse .
When they stock roofing materials it is by crane and if they do not disperse the weight they can make a column or slab break easy .
I agree 100% with you.
If the contractors started on the ground first and then ended up repairing the roof, nobody would have died.
It looks like it fell at close to free fall speed!! Come on!!
It's called "gravity". Come on!
@@LardGreystoke Do a little research behind the physics of free fall speed and what it entails buddy 👍🏻
@@ErinsEnergy313 So what are you saying, "buddy"? There were atomic rockets on top? When a building collapses it's going to "free fall" as accelerated by gravity, always. "Buddy".
@@LardGreystoke Like I said, DO SOME REASEARCH!
was long time water damage
looks like demolition. fell right into it's own footprint.
Exactly.
And how do "non-demolition" collapses happen?
Yes, noticed that. Don't know what it means. Maybe new appliances are bigger, more weight than building designed for in 1980? Or flimsy construction.
I was wondering how far I would have to scroll down to find a lunatic conspiracy theorist
What's McAfee's lawers last name?
Look up that name in the missing people from the fl condo collapse.
What was Peru and El Salvador up to?
Hint: Private Coins > Private Western Central Bank
Wow. Wow. Did his lawyer stay in the condo???? Possible...... Just baffled by the coincidence and connections. Maybe the USBs with lots of information were all in the condo???? But bringing down the entire building? Was there any other option?
Jeramy can you elaborate please
@@royadjalali1299 what was kept in the Oklahoma City bombing building?
You really think this is their first rodeo?
@@jeramykelton5304 Jeramy I live in Australia. Everybody is sleep walking here. Please elaborate . I really want to hear more. I don't know what was in Oklahoma building. I know more about 911 and the Gold vaults.
In brief can you give your possible scenario. ????
@@royadjalali1299 constantinereport.com/iran-contra-connections-to-the-ok-city-bombing-by-david-hoffman-and-alex-constantine/
My amateur prediction? Water intrusion. Water is a force of nature. I'm sure that there will be a number of factors involved, but I'm positive that ongoing, longterm water intrusion will be among them.
Fabio is brilliant and a highly respected and skilled structural engr-he may a good night gig in a metal band but still interesting insights
Properly constructed buildings don’t do this.
@@musiccalgary subsidence can contribute. But I suspect substandard concrete. The sister building had chunks of concrete falling off a basement column.
Sure they do, WTC 1, 2 & 7 were superbly constructed & yet they were disappeared in less than an hour. 8777 Collins Ave. is controlled demo 101 or do my lyin' eyes deceive me?
@@lorenzomoog1205 I’m no conspiracy theory nut. But, yes. That’s exactly wat a controlled demolition would look like.
Blow d critical columns in d middle. Blow all d shear joints at each level of slab.
Central core section collapses, pulling remaining corner building into a nice neat pile in d middle.
But I’m no conspiracy theorist…
@@lorenzomoog1205 do you think it’s related to John McAfee, to divert attention from pending legislation or for some other reason?
The collapse started at the pool area, next the center front colums(3) pull down the mid section and last the siut section(15 sec later).
The water proofing at the pool deck was in dire condition, water was leaking into the garage area and destroyed the repairs in columns. When rusting happens the metal expands and the concrete falling off in chunks. This further weakens the columns until it collapses. BTW this is how building demolition happens with explosives too, by putting under load bearing columns.
The whole process start slowly and speed up exponentially in a relatively short time. The water also can was the dirt out under the garage floor which further weakens the structure.
They should start the repairs in the pool and garage area not the roof.
Utterly negligent behavior.
From the video...it looks like the middle right collapsed first, IF they were replacing some things with the foundation and did not have it supported properly...the temp supports could have failed causing immediate collapse. No one noticed or heard a thing as everyone was asleep. That is a BIG IF. We have to wait on the engineers and architects...they will get to the bottom of it.
Go to the Web site @9-11 Architechs and Engineers..
Isn't FIU the school that can't build a footbridge? (sorry... but just saying...)
@Anthony st peter It was LAP project. FIU themselves oversaw the design rather than FDOT... so they kinda did...
There were reports the building was built on unstable earth and has been sinking for decades. It could have been triggered by the Navy testing that bomb off of Daytona Beach. Which registered as causing a 3.5 earthquake. So if it was unstable already, its quiet possibly a perfect storm.
Update: this was just a speculation yet further reports show residents reported the visual defects in the building. Management ignored the integrity of the building being compromised
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Beautiful story of a couple and their family's loss
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Atorod Azizinamini is not saying anything that has been said already , and what he said at the beginning of the interview is a question that everyone has asked how did this happen , well it happened because the Ownership of Champlain Condominium did not care to invest in keeping the Champlain Condominium in working order and there is a saying what you don't see can't hurt you , that's what the Ownership of Champlain Condominium not only said it was what they believed to be true .
The infrastructure is more important than the appearance and it is not seen as readily as the outside of the Condominium , Mr. Azizinamini is not saying anything that puts the burden on the Ownership and the Slum Lording of profits that were being paid to them , what he should have said is that a cold and calculated decision was made long ago with the Knowledge that it would be forty years before a full inspection of the Condominium would happen and in that time the only improvements were cosmetic .
"You can design buildings for every situations."
Yes investigate the heck out of that building video evidence....etc! That looked like a controled demolition!
I would suggest you watch several controlled demolitions, then watch this one. There are numerous telltale differences. Chiefly among them, there is no "pattern" of blasts that run the length or height of the towers. There are a few flashes near the roof where the electrical connections to the A/C systems reside, and a few other random flashes that could easily be attributable to the glass reflecting nearby lights. The only way it resembles a controlled demolition is that the building falls down. I challenge you to show that it could have fallen differently while starting as a static object in Earth's gravitational field.
@@daytonduck im not disagreeing with you. I have seen/watched many videos of controled demolition in my youtube viewer span over the years. Im just saying that looks like fowl play. An in todays world it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
That’s what it looks like to me too. But, nobody would thought so as people were sleeping when it collapsed.
How the hell would you put all the carefully timed explosives into an inhabited building? And why blow up this one particular building full of unknown people? That's right, it sounds stupid, doesn't it?
During that time period, Many criminal organizations were laundering drug money with construction projects
Buildings made 800 yrs Still stand. Why can't they make.buildings last more than 40 yrs
Who owns the building?
Everyone that owns each of the unit. This is a Condo. So, the owners are the tenants. Some owner may not live there and rent out their unit.
Perhaps they should design all buildings with the threat of collapse….not just earthquake areas, maybe it could have saved lives in this instance
What? Do you think Florida is a progressive state? Why waste money reinforcing buildings when they're just fine as they stand? We can't plan for everything, so why plan for anything? Florida state motto, Lol!
All buildings are designed not to collapse. This one stood for 40 years. Either there was deterioration of material, alterations to the structure, or subsidence; most likely a combination of above.
@@LardGreystoke Evening news said possible intrusion of water due to faulty waterproofing, for over 30 yrs. That can certainly affect the infrastructure. They were in the process of beginning a multi-million dollar remodeling of the building...but they were a few days too late. The roof work would not take such an extraordinarily long time so that rainwater would enter, however that may have been the case for the past three decades; a steady flow of water though a small leak or leaks would not be good. I agree, deterioration of material and subsidence is what I've narrowed it down to. At this time barring more info.
@@rondohunter8966 Yup. Best guess at this point.
I think the ground has been sinking.
Or someone used a device from a boat, ship or submarine or air...like an enemy using ultra sonic vibrations...
Can he sing Brother Louie
FYI - This building was built in 1981.
So as 50% of the rest of Miami
Is he the guy from the German band in the 80's " Modern Talking"???
BTW... Does Atorod Azizinamini have the BEST Hair on Planet Earth or what?
Only the most.
All I know is that there will be a lawsuit!!! Didn’t check the ground and building wasn’t being inspected!!!
The building wasn't required to be re-certified for forty years. It was built in 1981...whoops! Too late. Plus they overlooked the building sinking 2mm per year for 30 years.
@@rondohunter8966 they just did it…….
@@susycue3 Thanks for the update. Just awoke for the day.
Watch the video in the garage and listen to what eye witnesses and survived tenets said they Hurd.... I know someone saw more then they want to share.... it wasn't an accident, but I don't wanna get anyone saying I'm crazy, but truly pay attention to that video 7 minutes before the collaps.
how much a beach side apartment cost in Miami? old buildings appreciate right? there goes your investment.
Half mil n up
Looking at Zillow, this complex had a wide range. 3 bd 2 ba 1748 sq ft recently sold for $710,000. While a 4bd 4 ba 4500 sq ft sold for $2,880,000. A 2 bd 2 ba 1672 sq ft sold at the end of April for $610,000. There are also 1bd 2 ba 1200 sq ft in the building.