Everybody's talking about Alexander, and I'm here geeking out about the beautiful job they did setting one of the most ancient written pieces of music we have in our possession. Well done, Civ creators.
@Luke O'Brien Amazingly, it is the oldest peice of complete music with lyrics. There are some older peices...but all fragmented. It was simple and beautiful but I could find nothing on who Seikilos was. These were the lyrics to his melody: While you live, shine have no grief at all life exists only for a short while and Time demands his due Until I heard it with the lyrics I didn't understand the melody was really meant to support this amazing singing and hedonistic vibe. You can find many versions on youtube. Here's a version I really like. I hope you enjoy it: ua-cam.com/video/mGfOHoun0OQ/v-deo.html
@@ArazAttorney89 plenty of ancient greeks as well as some more recent famous greeks were described as blonde, it used to be more common than it is today but that was almost 2500 years ago that I'm talking about, a lot has changed especially for the greek people since then
+Mario Vega Wait are you saying that the word "perception" is "big"? Honestly that is not a very complex word. The only other long word he used is "actually" which I'm pretty certain you wouldn't say is a "big" word...
- They desire friendly relations with our empire - You both denounced the same Civ! - You fought together against a common foe! - You traded with them! - They covet lands that you currently own WAR
I'm impressed that they included the entire song, considering how most people (understandably) wouldn't just sit the character screen and listen to the song for 6 minutes. Not a lot of people was going to hear this, and they still put all this effort into it. Well done.
Guess they understand that people are suckers for great soundtracks. I can't quite warm up to Civ 5 as a game ... I'll always prefer a modded Civ 4 (ROM/AND), but soundtrack-wise Civ 5 is top notch, probably more so than Civ 4, which already had buttloads of damned fine music in it.
the character theme song plays when you first start the game or load it up again, the first few seconds are meant to add flavor to trade deals, the rest is to hype up whoever is playing him
Greetings! I am colonizing every inch of land around you in preparation of my inevitable military aggression. Meanwhile, can I have some of your oranges?
+Lifu Song It captures the message of the song quite nicely without the lyrics, which are (in English) "While you live, shine/have no grief at all/life exists only for a short while/and time demands an end."
This. Fucking. Guy. This is the leader who would buy out all of your city state allies before declaring war, only to then call you a war-mongering menace and that "it was just a prank, bro."
While you live, shine have no grief at all life exists only for a short while and time demands its toll. Hoson zēis phainou mēden holōs sy lypou pros oligon esti to zēn to telos ho chronos apaitei.
+Maximus The oldest song in the world, the lyrical genius of which mystically reveal us a rare glimpse of human condition from countless centuries past? >YOLO.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἔστι τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ. While you live, shine on be joyous and have no grief at all seize the day for life exists only for a short while and Time demands his due.
This song is really nostalgic for me for some reason. I heard all the civilization themes at around the same time. But something about this one is so incredibly good at activating memories of playing Civ V all day on weekends!
1ucasvb , absolutley this is the best version of Song of Seiklios I have ever heard, it's grandiose, filmic. The Romans and Greeks would have loved it. They had such big egos.
I was his neighbour by sea. Needless to say, that didn't stop him. He captured Korea and The Celtic civ and then started going for me because I was close with the Celts. Damn, he's a warmonger...
Its amazing how an ancient song such as that still lives on in this day and age, cheers for the info I love this rendition (the Civ5 one) so much its crazy
*Alexander requests declaration of friendship* (You accept) Alexander: "Gold and resources plzzz" You: "Fine whatever..." (You accept) Alexander: "You truly are a great leader..." *Declaration of friendship expired* *Alexander declares war on you* Alexander: "LAWL! NOPE!"
its more like early game, alexander-lets be friends you,sure 300 turns later, alexander discovers atomic theory and nuclear fission, declaration of friendship expires, alexander drops nukes on you until you fall
He's actually quite erratic in my games and almost always makes an appearance for some reason. In my game as Korea, he was a dick beyond measure (!) and he actually wiped out all the other civs on his continent and had a ridiculously large army. Worse was when it turned out that a majority of the uranium deposits were on his continent and at the same time, he'd taken the votes of so many city-states that I'd to divert my focus on science to gold to prevent him from getting the World Leader vote. But in my game as Morocco, he was a nice neighbour as well as Elizabeth surprisingly. I had just two cities but he never bothered me even when I was aiming for a diplomatic victory.
Bizud You don't even have to be at war with him for him to be dangerous. He almost always wrestles control of the World Congress all the time. "Oh, I see you've plenty of Copper there. Guess what? I'm going to ban it! What? You denounced me and are planning to send your army marching over to crush me? No can do, pal. Here's the Standing Army Tax for you!"
+Mr. Worldwide Did you ever beat Alexander in war? I mean completely take him out? I also thought he was such a douche until that moment! He just shocked me, and I had respect for his character (as a game-character) after that. =)
> Founds a city on a bare continent > Alexander gets pissy about me settling "too close" to him > Alexander denounces on next turn Welp. There goes our alliance.
I used this in a play where I played Eros from "Eros and Psyche" and my teacher (And many from the audience) cried. Funny thing is that they didn't even know the name of the song, but they thought, just by the sound of it, it represents Greece.
This guy was my buddy in my game as Morocco until we hit the Information Era, when our different ideologies conflicted and he denounced me. It seemed like nuclear war was inevitable, and using my huge pile of gold, I bought a bunch of units to prepare. Well, I must have bought a lot of units, because one turn my military advisor said "He has a big enough army to wipe you off the planet" and the next he said "I think I saw the only unit Alexander had". A few turns later I won a cultural victory, so it didn't matter anyways.
*The Epitaph of Seikilos* Hoson zēs phainou mēden holōs sy lypou pros oligon esti to zēn to telos ho chronos apaitei. While you live, shrine have no grief at all life exists only for a short while and time demands its toll.
I'm Catherine's Russia, the most powerful nation in the world. He's probably too busy staring at my tits, and acting along with my defensive pacts with what's left of his continent, against Egypt. Funny how Egypt and Morocco never entered their own pact too...
Alexander declared war on me twice when i was korea, kicked his ass defensively, getting 1 gpt off of him from his peace treaty. After getting the 6 Foreign Legions, I then wiped him and his muskets out.
Running through the plains of some country long-forgotten or relevant forever without a care in the world with no difference between those a millennia before you and one after, having the time of your life. You could do this forever until the sun begins to set, and you begin to walk with a friend forever back home in a hut, or a project, or a suburban farmhouse, and you realise that that was the time of your life, and always will be every day you do it. That's what this song reminds me of
Celts: *exist* Persia: *exists* Assyria: *exists* Egypt: *exists* Babylon: *exists* India: *exists* Greece: _”I think we can all see where this is going.”_
It's truly remarkable what he did in that time, he traveled thousand ms of miles, no train or plane or car, only by foot and horseback during snowy winters and scorching summers
"I'm sorry, but that City state on your continent that hates me is MY ally, not yours." *Allies with city state* *Denounces* *Declares War very same turn.*
Favorite Civ to play as. I get this beautiful track, and I'm a diplomatic powerhouse. Everything falls into place quickly and a cultural, diplomatic, or science victory is a snap.
>two of my cities have a single tile of space between them >Alexander's settler is looking to pass through the single tile of empty space >buy tile >[Alexander has denounced you!]
Was playing as Greece today, and got pretty frrakin annoyed with The Netherlands as they beat me to a great city spot by 1 turn. I declared war in them to get the city, and then gave a generous peace deal (he was offering his last city, other than the capitol of course) and I let him keep it. Suddenly, the Iroquois declare war on me, followed shortly by Babylon. I made peace with them a while later, barely hanging on to the city I captured. I gave them free stuff in the hopes they would be ok with me. Suddenly, the Zulus ask me to declare war on The Netherlands again, and I foolishly agreed. The Iroquois and Babylon declared war on me again and that was it. You might be able to tell I've never won a domination victory before...
You shouldn't have gone to war. You should always deny when others tell you to aid them in wars because it's unfixable and denying won't damage your relationship with the civ who asked you as much as a war will damage your status globally.
༼ つ◕ω◕ ༽つ WOW Dude, it was Shaka. When Shaka zulu tells you to declare war, you declare war. Unless he is telling you to declare war on Alexander. Then Shaka can go fuck himself.
I love this piece. I've played plenty of games against Alexander but I just finished my first game _as_ Alexander an hour ago. I didn't get into a war even once. Unlike the AI, I played Greece as a peaceful builder. Also, this game really demonstrated to me how powerful Greece's unique ability is. I was aiming for a scientific victory, figuring that I could focus on growth and science while getting most of my culture and military units from some city-state allies that I made early on. Because I wasn't aiming for a diplomatic victory, I didn't bother with the Patronage policy tree or try to get the Forbidden Palace. Occasionally, I impressed some city-states with my technological advancement, or connected certain resources, or built certain wonders, giving me what I saw as a nice temporary boost. By the time the information era hit, I was allied with six out of the eight city-states on the map through no conscious effort of my own (I was rigging elections and staging coups with my spies, but mostly because I had nothing better for my spies to do do.) By the third UN vote, I had 26 out of 28 delegates and spies in the two remaining city states, which were friendly but not allies. Just before the final vote, I staged a successful coup and ended up with enough delegates to get the diplomatic victory.
Likely not. Each leader has their own unique personality and I think Alexander has the friendliest personality of all the Civs. He rarely declares war on you until really late in the game so you can meet him in the Ancient Era and be butt buddies all the way to the Future Era. I always put him into my games so I can have a friendly face to count on. But seriously THAT FACE IS SO FRIENDLY.
I think Pedro and Ahmad-Al Mansur are the friendliest, because though they are expansion characters, they have a friendliness of 8, and Pedro has a 7/8 in Friendship willingness, beaten only by Gandhi*. Alexander is a 7 in hostile, and 5 in friendly. He also has a low loyalty of 4, very low warmonger hatred of 2, 4 DoW willingness, but a relatively low deceptiveness of 4. I think the friendliest Vanilla character on paper is Gandhi or Washington. Washington is forgiving as long as you're not a warmonger, likely to be friendly, and a 5 in Deceptive. Gandhi is easy to befriend, but the least forgiving and the most nuke happy, so he is really friendly if you don't piss him off. *until he nukes all your cities to dust
what makes me laugh about these AI screens, is that i imagine that the Leaders have been sat their for Mellenia in these places in which they are located even and just wait there just for you to pop up. Especially with Alexander because he looks so smug about it. Everytime i think when I pop, that my character is saying something like "Alexander, why are you still on that horse all this time? Don't you need to go to the toilet or eat? We've built houses and skyscraper now, whilst you are just sitting on a horse and the middle of nowhere" and him replying "I don't care, i'm still better than you"
I was playing as the Inca, and this guy was hostile the first time I met him because "He doesn't want anything to do with me" Then, once he gets swordsman, hoplites, and companion cavalries, he sacks both my cities.
There was little of a Greek collective at the time: Macedonia and all the Greek city states were considered to be pretty much the same with their shared culture and language. The concepts of them being two totally separated things didn't really appear until Macedonia and Greece were given their own two independence and national identities. Macedonia could very well have been a part of Greece today, if it was included in the area the Ottomans ceded to the state of Greece.
Greek Coup in Almaty! Greek Coup in Budapest! Greek Coup in Cape Town! Greek Coup in Melbourne! Greek Coup in Jerusalem! Greek Coup in Vancouver! Greek Coup in Singapore!
It's kinda ironic that they put this theme to Alexander the Great. Even though the historical gap between with Alexander and this song 300 years apart.
I don't know anything about the game, but this song is based on an older version of the song that was written over 2000 years ago. google seikilos epitaph. the original has lyrics in ancient greek. It's the oldest surviving complete song, although we have bits of older songs, such as a 6 minute or so bit of Hurrian hymn no. 6, which is the oldest surviving musical piece we have, at about 3400 years old
This is a funeral song written by Seikilos to his deceased wife... written almost 1900 years ago. during the latter stage of Roman Empire. The song itself survived to the next game as well. though much shorter and have era specific tunes. Not sure if in the upcoming Civ6 Expansion Pack. there will be nightclub versions?
how ironic is it that the oldest surviving musical composition is about how quickly time goes by
It sounds like the end of a book and I guess in some ways it is
@@Mason_88 I mean it was literally an epitaph
It is the oldest complete music composition. The oldest surviving(bits and pieces) is the hurrian hymn aka the song of the war robots in 500 BCE.
A song so incredibly old, about something so incredibly human. Truly beautiful.
The Song of Seikilos is the oldest musical piece that we know how to play without any missing fragments.
+Sameinaður Norðurlöndin Wow interesting !
that is really interesting!
A song where a man who lived thousands of years ago tells you that you need to live to the fullest. Incredible.
Team RWBY in China.
This
"your capital is too close to my cities"-Alexander the great
"your cities are built on my lands" FTFY
"your cities exist 248171 miles close to my borders! WAR!"
Alexander puts a city next to me your citys are to close to mine. oh im sorry I will move that city just pick it up and move it.
You gotta love historical accuracy
@@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933 it’s beautiful, brings a tear to my Alexandrian eye.
Everybody's talking about Alexander, and I'm here geeking out about the beautiful job they did setting one of the most ancient written pieces of music we have in our possession. Well done, Civ creators.
One reason I often played as Greece, simply because I love this tune. The lyrics are beautiful as well.
@Luke O'Brien Amazingly, it is the oldest peice of complete music with lyrics. There are some older peices...but all fragmented. It was simple and beautiful but I could find nothing on who Seikilos was. These were the lyrics to his melody:
While you live, shine
have no grief at all
life exists only for a short while
and Time demands his due
Until I heard it with the lyrics I didn't understand the melody was really meant to support this amazing singing and hedonistic vibe.
You can find many versions on youtube. Here's a version I really like. I hope you enjoy it:
ua-cam.com/video/mGfOHoun0OQ/v-deo.html
germany's theme i technically ode to joy
They used it just because the copyright has expired...
Minecraft did it better
kind of ironic that this is the longest peace theme.
@Jose Castro yes totally, originalgreeks have no blonds
@Klenovvy_Syrop he is almost as bad as Gandhi how can you be almost as bad as GANDHI
@Klenovvy_Syrop I would to if it where not for Alexander.
@@ArazAttorney89 plenty of ancient greeks as well as some more recent famous greeks were described as blonde, it used to be more common than it is today but that was almost 2500 years ago that I'm talking about, a lot has changed especially for the greek people since then
@Idk Idk gay?
On all levels except physical, I am Alexander.
[Denounces]
+MrOwnerandPwner Were I not Alexander, I would be Diogenes.
+MrOwnerandPwner XDXDXDXD
+MrOwnerandPwner You forgot:
[Declares war]
[Hostile]
[Forward settles]
[Demands tribute]
[Steals land]
[Taunts]
+Mario Vega
Wait are you saying that the word "perception" is "big"? Honestly that is not a very complex word. The only other long word he used is "actually" which I'm pretty certain you wouldn't say is a "big" word...
+oreocookies32 Any word longer than one syllable is considered "big" apparently.
“Nice theme, isn’t it? The other theme of mine is even better- I think you’re going to hear it very soon.” -Alexander the Great
buahahahaha
- They desire friendly relations with our empire
- You both denounced the same Civ!
- You fought together against a common foe!
- You traded with them!
- They covet lands that you currently own
WAR
Lol, when you think about it, it looks exactly like Trump's USA plan with Europe there...
@@LeKain08 what you mean ?
that happen because you have weak army, civs in this game are opportunistic
@@LeKain08 you're projecting
@@LeKain08 That sounds interesting! Could you elaborate?
Should be renamed to 'Alexander Pre-Stabbing Theme'
et tu?
it should be named the im going to steel all your city states then try to kill you for the rest of the game theme.
@@edwardjosh2784 On point
Well the guy that composed it in around 100-200 CE might not appreciate it.
Yes the melody is that old!
I'm impressed that they included the entire song, considering how most people (understandably) wouldn't just sit the character screen and listen to the song for 6 minutes. Not a lot of people was going to hear this, and they still put all this effort into it. Well done.
Well, it also plays for people playing as him too.
Guess they understand that people are suckers for great soundtracks. I can't quite warm up to Civ 5 as a game ... I'll always prefer a modded Civ 4 (ROM/AND), but soundtrack-wise Civ 5 is top notch, probably more so than Civ 4, which already had buttloads of damned fine music in it.
the character theme song plays when you first start the game or load it up again, the first few seconds are meant to add flavor to trade deals, the rest is to hype up whoever is playing him
@@antred11 How about now? Do you like civ 6 or you prefer 4 till today?
The game can bug and you'll end up listening to the entire theme.
That's a nice back you have there. Would be a shame if someone stabbed it.
No one would ever do that...
**Plotting Intensifies**
Actually That's not the Greeks that the was Brutus of Rome so yeah.
Steven Howard
joke went way over your head, you goon
IzzoSkizzy **Joke Intensifies**
ELVES > Dwarves
Greetings! I am colonizing every inch of land around you in preparation of my inevitable military aggression. Meanwhile, can I have some of your oranges?
Why certainly! (Readying battering rams in the background.)
Uh what about a leader named orange instead?
This piece of music gives a feel of spring，that everything is flourishing.
+Lifu Song It captures the message of the song quite nicely without the lyrics, which are (in English) "While you live, shine/have no grief at all/life exists only for a short while/and time demands an end."
dude, that is cool
This. Fucking. Guy.
This is the leader who would buy out all of your city state allies before declaring war, only to then call you a war-mongering menace and that "it was just a prank, bro."
+The Avenger at Ilipa But that was the only way he could unite Greece ;) . We Greeks had always problems with our pokets :D
TFW Alexander was one of the richest people of all time.
Sadly true
I wouldn’t know, I always play as Greece
Greece has a peace theme?!?
you just never hear it cuz they keep killing you
Greece is the best💪🏼
@@konstandinose.6695 Φυσικά
I mean, he's sitting on his horse with the literal definition of a shit-eating grin on his face in the default Windows background. Need I say more?
+Gavin Mahoney That doesn't even look remotely close to windows background
Solaxe S Shhhhhhhhhhh
+Gavin Mahoney Nobunaga is the one in front of the Windows XP desktop.
+Gavin Mahoney he's in to vaporwave aesthetics??
9volt65 He's actually part of Vape Nation.
While you live, shine
have no grief at all
life exists only for a short while
and time demands its toll.
Hoson zēis phainou
mēden holōs sy lypou
pros oligon esti to zēn
to telos ho chronos apaitei.
+Maximus Electissimus Greek to the rescue!
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.
+Maximus The oldest song in the world, the lyrical genius of which mystically reveal us a rare glimpse of human condition from countless centuries past?
>YOLO.
+Maximus Quite ironic that the oldest complete song tells us to cherish the time.
It's a universal thing, you know?
Thank you for the Lyric. Now GAJAH MADA of INDONESIA Trade Spies for nothing as free, none Barter... ;)
From Jakarta. ;)
"oh hey, i just noticed one of your cities is only 20 tiles away from my 54th city"
DECLARES WAR
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἔστι τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.
While you live, shine on
be joyous and have no grief at all
seize the day for life exists only for a short while
and Time demands his due.
this guy RULES the classical era
And any post-diplomacy age if you indulged in the Patronage tree. (But why would you not as Alex?)
This song is really nostalgic for me for some reason. I heard all the civilization themes at around the same time. But something about this one is so incredibly good at activating memories of playing Civ V all day on weekends!
Given that the Seikilos Epitaph is the oldest complete musical composition in the world, it's hard to see how it could be any more nostalgic.
This is brilliant, What an amazing arrangement of the oldest song that we have written/notated. Way to go on researching Ancient music.
With all due respect, your name doesn't seem Hellenic or even Balkan. What do you mean "we"? We, as the human race?
Sherlock Holmes Thank you Sherlock... lol
Not a Civ player, but this is a fucking great adaptation of the song.
Civ 5 definitly has a soundtrack worth checking out.
also try civ4, its a bit older but most people find it better
I like civ 6's version too
1ucasvb , absolutley this is the best version of Song of Seiklios I have ever heard, it's grandiose, filmic. The Romans and Greeks would have loved it. They had such big egos.
One of the best peace themes. Too bad it never lasts long. Unless your separated from Greece by ocean or something. :)
I was his neighbour by sea. Needless to say, that didn't stop him. He captured Korea and The Celtic civ and then started going for me because I was close with the Celts. Damn, he's a warmonger...
well he is one of thé conquerors of history for a reason ;p and not because he is such a peaceloving guy ;)
Well the epitaph of seikilos is about how short life is so a short song is fitting : )
Its amazing how an ancient song such as that still lives on in this day and age, cheers for the info
I love this rendition (the Civ5 one) so much its crazy
*Alexander requests declaration of friendship* (You accept)
Alexander: "Gold and resources plzzz"
You: "Fine whatever..." (You accept)
Alexander: "You truly are a great leader..."
*Declaration of friendship expired*
*Alexander declares war on you*
Alexander: "LAWL! NOPE!"
So true, every fucking game with him!
its more like
early game,
alexander-lets be friends
you,sure
300 turns later, alexander discovers atomic theory and nuclear fission,
declaration of friendship expires,
alexander drops nukes on you until you fall
He's actually quite erratic in my games and almost always makes an appearance for some reason. In my game as Korea, he was a dick beyond measure (!) and he actually wiped out all the other civs on his continent and had a ridiculously large army. Worse was when it turned out that a majority of the uranium deposits were on his continent and at the same time, he'd taken the votes of so many city-states that I'd to divert my focus on science to gold to prevent him from getting the World Leader vote. But in my game as Morocco, he was a nice neighbour as well as Elizabeth surprisingly. I had just two cities but he never bothered me even when I was aiming for a diplomatic victory.
The worst is when you realize you're going to have to DoW him and every one of his city-states too.
Bizud You don't even have to be at war with him for him to be dangerous. He almost always wrestles control of the World Congress all the time. "Oh, I see you've plenty of Copper there. Guess what? I'm going to ban it! What? You denounced me and are planning to send your army marching over to crush me? No can do, pal. Here's the Standing Army Tax for you!"
**Assholeness Intensifies**
*Greek ally's intensifies*
Love it!
+Mr. Worldwide Did you ever beat Alexander in war? I mean completely take him out? I also thought he was such a douche until that moment! He just shocked me, and I had respect for his character (as a game-character) after that. =)
RokWisdawn I wipe him out every chance I get, still don't respect him.
Mr. Worldwide But he was such a good sportsman about it? =)
Oldest musical piece. It's still shining.
> Founds a city on a bare continent
> Alexander gets pissy about me settling "too close" to him
> Alexander denounces on next turn
Welp. There goes our alliance.
me denounces him everybody else denounces Greece my diplomacy overview friendly friendly hostile friendly friendly friendly
I used this in a play where I played Eros from "Eros and Psyche" and my teacher (And many from the audience) cried. Funny thing is that they didn't even know the name of the song, but they thought, just by the sound of it, it represents Greece.
Such a great idea!
Has anyone else noticed that Alexander has exactly the same horse as Genghis Kahn?
+Gmeister I just did lol
so Gheghis Khan horse is the Bucephalus too? Looks like this horse is some immortal evil pixie who is brain washing others into warmongering Xd
"Hoson zes phainou, meden holos sy lypou, pros oligon esti to zen, to telos ho chronos apaitei"
This guy was my buddy in my game as Morocco until we hit the Information Era, when our different ideologies conflicted and he denounced me. It seemed like nuclear war was inevitable, and using my huge pile of gold, I bought a bunch of units to prepare. Well, I must have bought a lot of units, because one turn my military advisor said "He has a big enough army to wipe you off the planet" and the next he said "I think I saw the only unit Alexander had". A few turns later I won a cultural victory, so it didn't matter anyways.
*The Epitaph of Seikilos*
Hoson zēs phainou
mēden holōs sy lypou
pros oligon esti to zēn
to telos ho chronos apaitei.
While you live, shrine
have no grief at all
life exists only for a short while
and time demands its toll.
ΟΣΟΝ ΖΗΣ ΦΑΙΝΟΥ,
ΜΗΔΕΝ ΟΛΩΣ ΣΥ ΛΥΠΟΥ.
ΠΡΟΣ ΟΛΙΓΟΝ ΕΣΤΙ ΤΟ ΖΗΝ,
ΤΟ ΤΕΛΟΣ Ο ΧΡΟΝΟΣ ΑΠΑΙΤΕΙ
Amazing...
"The oldest song that we have in its entirety and its theme is basicaly YOLO."
-Hank Green
Julian Montes You mean carpe diem.
+༼ つ◕ω◕ ༽つ WOW The most ancient mantinatha we know, he he
Thank you Ancient Ruins Hoplite, very cool.
My settlers can walk where ever the hell they please, as the Gods intended.
"Alexander Peace Theme"
Me: One does not simply have peace when Alexander the Great is in the game...
I'm Catherine's Russia, the most powerful nation in the world. He's probably too busy staring at my tits, and acting along with my defensive pacts with what's left of his continent, against Egypt. Funny how Egypt and Morocco never entered their own pact too...
But did you play deity?
Liberty.
Honor.
PATRONAGE.
No one can resist the urge to lisent to this song multiple times.
Alexander peace theme? Lol, I didn't even know there was a "peace option" for Alexander the Great...
Alexander is almost always a wuss when I play against him.
Alexander declared war on me twice when i was korea, kicked his ass defensively, getting 1 gpt off of him from his peace treaty. After getting the 6 Foreign Legions, I then wiped him and his muskets out.
They call the part when he denounces you a heck of a whole lot peace.
you want peace theme. i got it off him once...he was on the other side of the map.
there is not it is just there whale he is forward settling you
It's such a happy song to listen to, too bad you'll never hear it though.
Running through the plains of some country long-forgotten or relevant forever without a care in the world with no difference between those a millennia before you and one after, having the time of your life. You could do this forever until the sun begins to set, and you begin to walk with a friend forever back home in a hut, or a project, or a suburban farmhouse, and you realise that that was the time of your life, and always will be every day you do it.
That's what this song reminds me of
The first written song in history sure was a banger.
Celts: *exist*
Persia: *exists*
Assyria: *exists*
Egypt: *exists*
Babylon: *exists*
India: *exists*
Greece: _”I think we can all see where this is going.”_
Makes peace with me
Trade Resources and shit
Denounces
War
Makes peace again
+vesteel Rinse and repeat
And it just goes on
Greece's impact has definitely shaped the foundations for all other great inventions to come
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A king who conquered and made an empire in his short lifetime and a song about how life is short, brilliant!
It is reported this theme is the oldest surviving complete musical composition in world history
dude, that sounds cool and its true
This song is so cool. Especially the story behind it
It's truly remarkable what he did in that time, he traveled thousand ms of miles, no train or plane or car, only by foot and horseback during snowy winters and scorching summers
The Everest behind his back is such a subtle and beautiful detail.
More like Mt. Olympus
"I'm sorry, but that City state on your continent that hates me is MY ally, not yours."
*Allies with city state*
*Denounces*
*Declares War very same turn.*
Favorite Civ to play as. I get this beautiful track, and I'm a diplomatic powerhouse. Everything falls into place quickly and a cultural, diplomatic, or science victory is a snap.
>two of my cities have a single tile of space between them
>Alexander's settler is looking to pass through the single tile of empty space
>buy tile
>[Alexander has denounced you!]
when i first started civ 5 i really liked to play england, but man now after playing land based maps greece is the most fun to play as.
Was playing as Greece today, and got pretty frrakin annoyed with The Netherlands as they beat me to a great city spot by 1 turn. I declared war in them to get the city, and then gave a generous peace deal (he was offering his last city, other than the capitol of course) and I let him keep it. Suddenly, the Iroquois declare war on me, followed shortly by Babylon. I made peace with them a while later, barely hanging on to the city I captured. I gave them free stuff in the hopes they would be ok with me. Suddenly, the Zulus ask me to declare war on The Netherlands again, and I foolishly agreed. The Iroquois and Babylon declared war on me again and that was it. You might be able to tell I've never won a domination victory before...
You shouldn't have gone to war. You should always deny when others tell you to aid them in wars because it's unfixable and denying won't damage your relationship with the civ who asked you as much as a war will damage your status globally.
Spamster3212 don't listen to him spamster. Always declare war when shaka asks you to. Just don't suck next time.
༼ つ◕ω◕ ༽つ WOW Dude, it was Shaka. When Shaka zulu tells you to declare war, you declare war.
Unless he is telling you to declare war on Alexander. Then Shaka can go fuck himself.
Lovely advise there XD
Seikelos Epitaph, this is the oldest Greek song that has been found.
Beautiful Greek music
damn right
May the Olympians look proud upon glorious ancient Greece.
Start up a game
4 turns pass
Greetings! I am Alexander!
Restart
Every time I play against Alexander, he always seems to have -63 GPT or lower.
In every play-through.
#economiccrisis #greecehasnomoney
True story.
Emre Atakan Oruç Maybe the new PM can fix it?
Mr. Worldwide I come from the future!
No. He can't.
Alexei Brownski But what about "War Repatriations" that are conveniently just enough to cover their debt?
Arstotzkan Inspector I always give him some money if i'm playing as germany,but he usually buy useless stuff like..FUCKING SUBMARINES
I heard this was number one for a few centuries .
1 TURN LATER: Everyone made peace with you!
Needless to say, his horse makes him look friendly, and that godamn smile as well.
But we all know what is doomed to happen.
I love this song. It's so relaxing
One of my favorites peace themes in Civ V along with the Carthaginian, French, Polynesian and British ones
I love this piece.
I've played plenty of games against Alexander but I just finished my first game _as_ Alexander an hour ago. I didn't get into a war even once. Unlike the AI, I played Greece as a peaceful builder.
Also, this game really demonstrated to me how powerful Greece's unique ability is. I was aiming for a scientific victory, figuring that I could focus on growth and science while getting most of my culture and military units from some city-state allies that I made early on. Because I wasn't aiming for a diplomatic victory, I didn't bother with the Patronage policy tree or try to get the Forbidden Palace. Occasionally, I impressed some city-states with my technological advancement, or connected certain resources, or built certain wonders, giving me what I saw as a nice temporary boost.
By the time the information era hit, I was allied with six out of the eight city-states on the map through no conscious effort of my own (I was rigging elections and staging coups with my spies, but mostly because I had nothing better for my spies to do do.) By the third UN vote, I had 26 out of 28 delegates and spies in the two remaining city states, which were friendly but not allies. Just before the final vote, I staged a successful coup and ended up with enough delegates to get the diplomatic victory.
Exactly, Alexander found his crown when he saw the greek city states divide4d, it was a window of oppurtunity that couldn't be missed.
"Gets mad at you because you built the wonder he wants."
*Declares war because of border disputes*
masterpiece of game music!
perfect example of well-remastered ancient music!
Alexandros o megas.... for the glory of Greece
Really appreciate that.
Thank you. Be well.
He has a peace theme? I didn't know he needed that!
Love they kept the similar sound into civ 6 for Greece! Sorta for macedone but its still nostalgic
Whats that? You didn't do anything for me recently?
[YOU ARE BEING DENOUNCED]
Before this peace song ends you are already at war.
I actually really like this theme (when I'm Greece)~ It sounds so peaceful and happy, which is ironic because my people are never that happy...
Absolutely Beautiful, the best peace theme out of the whole bunch I think.
Am i the only one who can manage to be friends with greece from the start?
Likely not. Each leader has their own unique personality and I think Alexander has the friendliest personality of all the Civs. He rarely declares war on you until really late in the game so you can meet him in the Ancient Era and be butt buddies all the way to the Future Era. I always put him into my games so I can have a friendly face to count on. But seriously THAT FACE IS SO FRIENDLY.
I've pulled it off on many occasions
Sam Webster don't trust friendly faces,i learned it the hard way when i first met Genghis Khan
friendly... face.. Can't... Resist... *Gets a Decleration of Friendship with the Khan*
*Provides open borders*
*Gets Backstabbed*...
...Bastard...
I think Pedro and Ahmad-Al Mansur are the friendliest, because though they are expansion characters, they have a friendliness of 8, and Pedro has a 7/8 in Friendship willingness, beaten only by Gandhi*. Alexander is a 7 in hostile, and 5 in friendly. He also has a low loyalty of 4, very low warmonger hatred of 2, 4 DoW willingness, but a relatively low deceptiveness of 4. I think the friendliest Vanilla character on paper is Gandhi or Washington. Washington is forgiving as long as you're not a warmonger, likely to be friendly, and a 5 in Deceptive. Gandhi is easy to befriend, but the least forgiving and the most nuke happy, so he is really friendly if you don't piss him off.
*until he nukes all your cities to dust
While you live, shine
have no grief at all
life exists only for a short while
and Time demands his due.[n 3]
Old Song... Epic
This is so beautiful! Never played a civ game, but the soundtracks are majestic!
In the first stage he declared war on me and totally crushed me!
Still my favorite version of the epitaph of selikos on UA-cam
This is actually the Oldest Music Composition in the world
Such wonderful music!
Update: this is the best theme in the game imo, at least for me 100%. Feels so good to play as Greece!
Listening to this gives one the feeling you're wondering the greek country near a city state like Athens.
When Turks Not Here:
Alexander: ITS TIME
what makes me laugh about these AI screens, is that i imagine that the Leaders have been sat their for Mellenia in these places in which they are located even and just wait there just for you to pop up. Especially with Alexander because he looks so smug about it. Everytime i think when I pop, that my character is saying something like "Alexander, why are you still on that horse all this time? Don't you need to go to the toilet or eat? We've built houses and skyscraper now, whilst you are just sitting on a horse and the middle of nowhere" and him replying "I don't care, i'm still better than you"
What? A peace theme exists for him?
I would have never guessed because his favorite pass time is declaring war.
ironically this is the longest piece of all the soundrack xD
So well said! Cheers bro
I was playing as the Inca, and this guy was hostile the first time I met him because "He doesn't want anything to do with me" Then, once he gets swordsman, hoplites, and companion cavalries, he sacks both my cities.
There was little of a Greek collective at the time: Macedonia and all the Greek city states were considered to be pretty much the same with their shared culture and language. The concepts of them being two totally separated things didn't really appear until Macedonia and Greece were given their own two independence and national identities. Macedonia could very well have been a part of Greece today, if it was included in the area the Ottomans ceded to the state of Greece.
Greek Coup in Almaty!
Greek Coup in Budapest!
Greek Coup in Cape Town!
Greek Coup in Melbourne!
Greek Coup in Jerusalem!
Greek Coup in Vancouver!
Greek Coup in Singapore!
It's kinda ironic that they put this theme to Alexander the Great. Even though the historical gap between with Alexander and this song 300 years apart.
Nothing is perfect, enjoy the small things.
I'd have to rank this as the most beautiful-sounding theme in all of the Civilization series
My friends and I were all on a team, and one of them "accidentally" declares war on this dude. 50 city states declare war on us.
I don't know anything about the game, but this song is based on an older version of the song that was written over 2000 years ago. google seikilos epitaph. the original has lyrics in ancient greek. It's the oldest surviving complete song, although we have bits of older songs, such as a 6 minute or so bit of Hurrian hymn no. 6, which is the oldest surviving musical piece we have, at about 3400 years old
This is a funeral song written by Seikilos to his deceased wife... written almost 1900 years ago. during the latter stage of Roman Empire.
The song itself survived to the next game as well. though much shorter and have era specific tunes.
Not sure if in the upcoming Civ6 Expansion Pack. there will be nightclub versions?
Genghis Khan is going to be pissed when he finds out that Alexander stole his horse!
dude, thats cool
Alexander is the kind of guy that would declare war mid-diplomacy just so you can't finish listening to this song. Ugh, that would trigger me!