Human brains are so so complex. I would have to say the mark of a "wise" human is for that human to understand this complexity. We might then STOP TRYING to solve our complex problems with knee-jerk, simplistic solutions, that often generate more problems by ignoring our complexity.
I wonder if what we call “rich complex emotion” is just our conceptualisation of basic negative and positive states, and perhaps some more neutral state in between. And these super basic nematodes are actually “feeling” bad and good as a model of their internal and external interactions, it’s essentially the animating force behind life- “feel” good, “feel” bad, it’s what drives behaviour. We humans so complex that we project so much variation, in the form of concepts, into these basic states, to create all the emotions we articulate. Kind of how we create all the colours from just red, green and blue.
I read his book having seen your interview and want to thank you for it. This is the best book I've read since Russel barley's 'Executive Function'. And it certainly is impressive to have it so highly recommended by the likes of Friston and Jablonka.
"The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend more but have less, we buy more but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge but less judgment, more experts yet more problems, more medicine but less wellness." ~George Carlin
Great discussion! Re: ChatGPT, even with its most recent update, it’s still quite easy to reveal LLM’s shortcomings by asking somewhat absurd questions. Yesterday, I asked ChatGPT, what size shoe would the average sized squirrel wear if squirrels wore shoes. Answer: somewhere between a child size 5 and a child size 7. I believe that equates to over 9 inches long (in the U.S.). According to Google, squirrels’ hind feet can grow up to 2.5 inches.
The irony of the Dunning-Kruger effect -- which suggests that people with poor knowledge of a topic overestimate how much they know about that topic -- is that people with poor knowledge of the Dunning-Kruger effect overestimate how much they know about the Dunning-Kruger effect.
About the mentioned division between good or bad of the world, that primitive organisms do, I think a very important thing is how pleasure and pain works in the brain. I understand that this is as difficult as the problem of consciousness. But certainly we can feel pleasure or pain even when it is the first time that we experience something.
some of us are smart. most of us get together and create stuff that benefits many. thats just us being creative. but only until we get into desperate states do we become ingenuous. thats us in a nutshell
“Humans are really smart” in the way that a bowling ball in a basket of baseballs is “really big”. We’re smarter than all other animals in most ways, especially over any kind of time span.
This episode is interesting except one thing : The guest uses a lot the concept of mental imagery or movie. I have Aphantasia No mental imagery at all like 3%of mankind . We are all in stage 5 by different ways.
“Humans are smart”…. ???? Come back and talk to me when humans have evolved beyond tribalism. THEN, maybe we can have an intelligent conversation. Until then, you might want to spend time thinking about a way to end tribalism. Seems to me to be a more productive way of spending our time. Seems to me to be the single most important hurdle for humans to get over. Think about it.
...... awesomely interesting, thanks
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This was super interesting. Thank you!
Human brains are so so complex. I would have to say the mark of a "wise" human is for that human to understand this complexity. We might then STOP TRYING to solve our complex problems with knee-jerk, simplistic solutions, that often generate more problems by ignoring our complexity.
Am definitely getting Max’s book too 😅
I wonder if what we call “rich complex emotion” is just our conceptualisation of basic negative and positive states, and perhaps some more neutral state in between. And these super basic nematodes are actually “feeling” bad and good as a model of their internal and external interactions, it’s essentially the animating force behind life- “feel” good, “feel” bad, it’s what drives behaviour. We humans so complex that we project so much variation, in the form of concepts, into these basic states, to create all the emotions we articulate. Kind of how we create all the colours from just red, green and blue.
I read his book having seen your interview and want to thank you for it. This is the best book I've read since Russel barley's 'Executive Function'. And it certainly is impressive to have it so highly recommended by the likes of Friston and Jablonka.
Wonderful, I just bought the book about the brain
"The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend more but have less, we buy more but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge but less judgment, more experts yet more problems, more medicine but less wellness." ~George Carlin
Great discussion!
Re: ChatGPT, even with its most recent update, it’s still quite easy to reveal LLM’s shortcomings by asking somewhat absurd questions.
Yesterday, I asked ChatGPT, what size shoe would the average sized squirrel wear if squirrels wore shoes.
Answer: somewhere between a child size 5 and a child size 7. I believe that equates to over 9 inches long (in the U.S.).
According to Google, squirrels’ hind feet can grow up to 2.5 inches.
The irony of the Dunning-Kruger effect -- which suggests that people with poor knowledge of a topic overestimate how much they know about that topic -- is that people with poor knowledge of the Dunning-Kruger effect overestimate how much they know about the Dunning-Kruger effect.
About the mentioned division between good or bad of the world, that primitive organisms do, I think a very important thing is how pleasure and pain works in the brain. I understand that this is as difficult as the problem of consciousness. But certainly we can feel pleasure or pain even when it is the first time that we experience something.
some of us are smart. most of us get together and create stuff that benefits many. thats just us being creative. but only until we get into desperate states do we become ingenuous. thats us in a nutshell
“Humans are really smart” in the way that a bowling ball in a basket of baseballs is “really big”. We’re smarter than all other animals in most ways, especially over any kind of time span.
I've also noticed that most all human intelligence has run way.
I think we are regressing. Look at the planet! We have allowed emotions like greed rule us.
This episode is interesting except one thing : The guest uses a lot the concept of mental imagery or movie. I have Aphantasia No mental imagery at all like 3%of mankind . We are all in stage 5 by different ways.
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@@tuckerbugeater wow. Man you're wrong in every comment you write. Congrats on batting 1000
“Humans are smart”…. ????
Come back and talk to me when humans have evolved beyond tribalism. THEN, maybe we can have an intelligent conversation.
Until then, you might want to spend time thinking about a way to end tribalism. Seems to me to be a more productive way of spending our time. Seems to me to be the single most important hurdle for humans to get over. Think about it.
You guys are cute, you think human beings are smart. Humans are a lot of things ... smart ain't one of them.
smart enough to use your energy for their own ends to replace you