I think the Fender into the M2 sounded the most like Marcus Miller's original tone. However, the basses all sounded great, and could probably be tweaked a little more to achieve a very similar sound.
That atelier z is monster.Much clearer tone than the Sire and the fender.More than likely better build too.I had a buddy who had a sire and had to dress the frets,and do a little tweaking before it got right.The preamp is the better feature on that bass
Atelier z i think was my favorite but they are so expensive and hard to get a hold of here in the u.s.! Also the sire was WAY better than i expected. At that price point you could buy that for like a student or your kid.
I think that the SIRE is good for in the mix and is well balanced. Maybe a little weak in treble in passive mode but the preamp is great value compared to my G&L L2000 which needs the mid boost from the Sire preamp...
The Atelier Z has the biggest and bassiest tone, hands down. The Fender is, well, a Fender. But the Sire has nothing to be ashamed of; it sounds really good given its price point. I'd play a gig with either one of them, no question. All really good sounding instruments...
+catboyzee Aterlier Z was a good impression stand out even among the demo Player and video production crew, but it was the point "great quality of setup", more than sound character. We felt those price differential also be responsive to Setup of previous record such as turned truss rod, Height adjust of PUs Thank you for your comment.
I'd say it's a toss up between the Fender and Sire depending on what sound you like. The Fender is a little warmer and rounder while the Sire is a little brighter and crisper. The Atelier Z smokes both of them, no contest, but it also costs more than both the Fender and Sire combined.
All three basses are nice. It really depends on the sound you are looking for. Although you have to admit the Sire bass at that low cost is great. I have a fender jazz bass american deluxe with the N3 pickup's and its great. But I prefer the Sire which I also have due to more smoother tone. But that is my taste. For me the Sire has done the job that i need.
+Andrea Troisi Fender Japan MM and SWR M2 Preamp is a his main combination. Sire is shortly put in hand, and Atelier Z has been borrowed from other bass player. I think have affects on the difference in the sound.Grazie!
For a relatively small investment, the Sire V7 is a phenomenal value, so much so that your "we get what we pay for" is essentially meaningless. Sound wise, the Sire goes toes to toes with the Fender and Atelier. And features like 18V ridiculously versatile preamp, active/passive modes, strung through body, nice tone woods, et al, the Sire V7 is an excellent bass period.
MARK ANGELO VINLUAN This JB77MM drives bartolini XTCT at 9V, so there is little less headroom. fender has rough tone (somewhat delicate) compared to other active models. I think that unique tone it reacts sensitively to the dynamics of the player's fingers, picking positions. causing dull tone changes that I also can't well explain. The rough tone when I play "ff", and soft and warm tone when I play "pp" are the many passive basses I like and of course the character of fender.
+James Patrick Silos Ya abusolutely. It's best comparison if we ready to Atelier Z's M-series. The Beta-series is reproduced in 24frets the sound of M245(20frets). Thank you for comment!
+ANTENNA565 You're welcome Sir! Moreover Atelier Z m-series equipped with xtct preamp just like the preamp installed by Roger Sadowsky in the Original Marcus miller Fender Jazzbass. I'm a Big fan of Marcus Miller / 70'ish Jazzbass. & I love Atelier Z basses too. M245 is my Weapon of choice (Proud owner here) Thanks & Godbless! :)
Really, no one? The Sire V7 is a 60s style Jazz Bass, withtout the same bridge pickup placement as the two others, it would have been judicious to choose a V7 Vintage for a fair comparison, but great video!!
The sire sounded like it was being played with a blanket over the speaker, especially in active mode. As much as I want to like it I would spend more to get what I want but for a newer player it could be great.
9999plato i understand your point of view but this bass would be great for any player,not just a newbie...it may not suit your tastes,but no need to diminish the value overall to a beginner bass... there are pros/veterans everywhere using these instruments on the road with notable artists and on major recording sessions.
To each his own. Though I no longer own any Squire Jazz basses they make those 70s squiers and the ones I tried I would play out any night. Nice basses, excellent at the price. I love those c shape narrow 70s necks. Many people might hate my Warmoth Gecko bass as it has a big neck and a more modern tone. If I had your bass in hand I might have a different opinion. Peace dude.
9999plato Don't get me wrong,I'm not trying to make you like the bass,i just said dismissing it as a beginner/newer player bass can't be true when there are seasoned pros using them on real gigs...that's all.it comes down to the player always...not how much an instrument costs.
Lol, the Sire sounds like straight piano strings here, very close to the Marcus Miller sound. And actually in this demo the Sire had more high frequencies in Active mode. As for as the whole "beginner bass bs", the V7 has an extremely versatile 18V preamp that puts many much more expensive basses to shame, it features a strung through body something that is unheard of at this price point. Sonically, there are literally hundreds of Sire V7 demos online (including this one), that don't sound the way you describe. But feel free to wave your snob flag, but there are countless experienced pros who own and gig with Sire basses.
Is it okay to turn on the active preamp of sire while using the M2 preamp? What is your mixing on the knobs of sire? Thank you for your acknowledgement! :)
Great video. Thanks. I'd like to hear your opinion. If, hypothetically, an American Fender standard jazz bass and a Sire V7 were the same price, which one would you buy? Thanks again.
+jay contrino I've owned a ton of American Jazz basses and boutique Jazz basses (Lull, Sadowsky Metro, Valenti). I now own two Sire V7 basses and the tone blows away any active Fender bass I've played. Insane value for the price.
+rOb A The neck is a very standard Jazz "C" shape. String spacing is standard for a 1.5 inch nut. The back of the neck is a heavy gloss finish. Basically if you don't mind a standard Jazz, you will be at home. The real game changer for this price point is the preamp. Just sounds like a MUCH more expensive instrument, and offers a crazy wide range of tones.
netdev1 Thanks. After hearing your opinion as well as others on UA-cam, I ordered the Sire V7, 4 string, ash body, maple neck. I can't wait for it to arrive. Thanks gain for your help.
+rOb a I say very much so. I have Fender, Lakland, and so far a Sire alder/RW. The materials, workmanship, incredible electronics, tuners, bound, bone nut, playability, tone--- just a great value in MHO. I will be adding another to my collection next month too:)
Hi Antenna 565... Good job and good groove... For me the Fender wins "at low hands" (a mani basse ah ah ..) as we say in Italy. Which model is it? RI75 MIJ?
All the bass on this new album was recorded using a SIRE 70s jazz!! facebook.com/nowplayingrocks NOW PLAYING: ua-cam.com/play/PLg_wwLYiEy9YL594q-_pkwcZ_pETODQPD.html
ATELIER Z doesn't have the booty the SIre does. The pre-amp in the Sire is a very significant advantage. Sure it could just be EQ setting. I think the concept of the SIre being a value bass has backfired. It's sounds as good as any Fender. I use USA 70's Jazz with a bart and the Sire is the closest and may even be better.
Say what cha wanna say but that Fender MM4 got that "Stank " and I have a Sire V7..Atelier sounds great but I'm not going to pay that much for a Jazz Bass or any other bass...those days are over
+林群 Fender Japan JB77MM - made in japan Atelier Z Beta4 Plus - made in japan Sire V7 - made in korea(OEM from DAME guitar SANCTUS Series). anyone is that Right ?
Oh, man! The Sire in passive mode with the DI out sounds SO GOOD! I can't wait for mine to arrive!
Sire V7 became so mass produced that it lost its uniqueness,now almost everyone plays Sire V7 and sounds the same,my vote goes for Yamaha.
@@savanaviolenta i wouldn’t say that
same here, sire passive got me
That Sire V7 sounds Amazing!!
I think the Fender into the M2 sounded the most like Marcus Miller's original tone.
However, the basses all sounded great, and could probably be tweaked a little more to achieve a very similar sound.
love the atelier z sound
Daniel Priatna love my wallet
Love the little Miller Homage in the beginning ❣️
That atelier z is monster.Much clearer tone than the Sire and the fender.More than likely better build too.I had a buddy who had a sire and had to dress the frets,and do a little tweaking before it got right.The preamp is the better feature on that bass
The Fender sounds incredible, especially going thru the MM2.
Atelier Z is the sharpest and the best imho. It reminds my Sadowsky Tokyo Jazz Bass.
fantastic playing!more videos please and English translation would be perfect!
The best of the Marcus Miller sample!
Great playing, my friend!!
atelier z sounds so good!
Atelier z i think was my favorite but they are so expensive and hard to get a hold of here in the u.s.! Also the sire was WAY better than i expected. At that price point you could buy that for like a student or your kid.
They all sound great.
凄く役立つ興味深いビデオです．何度も見直してしまいました．
１．Sireは高音が抜けていて気持ちよいですが，あえていうなら，すこし中低音がブーストが効き過ぎてモコモコしている感じ．
２．AtlizerZ Betaはこのビデオでは少し固めの音に聞こえます．
３．Fender Japan MMはDIでは低音が物足りない感じですが，SWRのM２を通すと良い感じになっている．
という印象を受けました．本当に素晴らしい演奏と詳しい説明ありがとうございました．
+jun1217 xb4
引き続きコメントありがとうございます、ビデオ制作者です。
Fender Japan MMとSWR M2 Preampの組み合わせは演奏者がメインで使用している組み合わせで、Sireは入手後間もなく、Atelier Zはお借りしている物ですので、そのあたりも音の違いに大きく影響していると思います。使用したDIもスタジオ備え付けの物です。
また、インボードプリアンプのブースト/カット量やSWR M2 PreampのEQ/コンプの設定も演奏者に任せて録音したので、音の違いは強調されているものもあれば、他機種に近づけたセッティングもあると思います。
録音側としても大変面白い物が録れたという感想で、今後も演奏者や周りのベーシストと協力してベース関連のビデオを投稿して行こうと思っております。ありがとうございます。
You are killing it, man!
All basses will sound good with that skill
I think that the SIRE is good for in the mix and is well balanced. Maybe a little weak in treble in passive mode but the preamp is great value compared to my G&L L2000 which needs the mid boost from the Sire preamp...
The Atelier Z has the biggest and bassiest tone, hands down. The Fender is, well, a Fender. But the Sire has nothing to be ashamed of; it sounds really good given its price point. I'd play a gig with either one of them, no question. All really good sounding instruments...
+catboyzee
Aterlier Z was a good impression stand out even among the demo Player and video production crew,
but it was the point "great quality of setup", more than sound character.
We felt those price differential also be responsive to Setup of previous record such as turned truss rod, Height adjust of PUs
Thank you for your comment.
Agreed.
Great playing on all basses. The Sire sounds amazing in passive or active with DI out.......very surprised.
Belman5 Really great passive!
Id roll off some sub bass frequency from the Sire bass and it would be my favorite.
Guy sounds like he walked straight out of a VST... super tight and solid playing
For a budget bass it's got a bangin tone ,the sire
I know! It's only like 399-499. Ridiculous.
Niiiiice demo buddy! Good job!
sire 499$
Atelier Z 2990$
Fender MM4 999$
And I like the sire the most in terms of tone
Sire all day long !
They all sound great, YOU sound great!!!
マーカスっぽいのはやはりフェンダーだと思いますが、sireの音が凄くかっこ良かったです。
I choose the sire V7 Marcus Miller, too. I love passive tone!!!
The Sire in passive sounded best to me! I own a Sire V5 super bass.
I'd say it's a toss up between the Fender and Sire depending on what sound you like. The Fender is a little warmer and rounder while the Sire is a little brighter and crisper.
The Atelier Z smokes both of them, no contest, but it also costs more than both the Fender and Sire combined.
Nice video!
凄く参考になりました。ありがとうごさいます!!
All three basses are nice. It really depends on the sound you are looking for. Although you have to admit the Sire bass at that low cost is great. I have a fender jazz bass american deluxe with the N3 pickup's and its great. But I prefer the Sire which I also have due to more smoother tone. But that is my taste. For me the Sire has done the job that i need.
Great job! Thanks from Italy
+Andrea Troisi
Fender Japan MM and SWR M2 Preamp is a his main combination.
Sire is shortly put in hand, and Atelier Z has been borrowed from other bass player.
I think have affects on the difference in the sound.Grazie!
「LIVE UNDER THE SKY '91」の「Run For Cover」を聴き直してみましたが、
結構倍音が多いので、私としては一番最初の「Sire V7のPassive」が一番近いと思います。
I like The Sire and I like that groove your playing.
機種を変えてのラン・フォー・カバー乱れ打ち、最高です（笑）。こういう比較のし方ってありそうで無かったですよ。素晴らしい！！
+marcusjazzbass
ビデオ制作者です。コメントありがとうございます。
演奏フレーズと録音環境がそれぞれ全く同じの為、「楽器固有のおいしい部分」は本ビデオでお伝えできなかったのが残念です。
別の方へのコメントでも説明しているのですが、Fender Japan MMとSWR M2 Preampの組み合わせは演奏者がメインで使用している組み合わせでした。
特にAtelier Zはお借りしている物でしたので、音作りにもう少し時間をかけてあげられればと演奏者と話し合っていました。
Just got a Sire V3 5 string, the lower end model, and it has the same tone as the V7. At under 500 bux it's a no brainer. Buy one now!
V7 passive really growls I love that bass
ベータ4をm2プリアンプに通した音が、diアウトと比べてイナたさが無くなって、とてもいい音に聞こえました。
Atelier is 24 fret jazz bass, it will affect the sound from where the finger will slap/plucking
sire sounds really really great!!!
Damn Sire V7 and Passive
love da funk, brutha!!
Atelier Z beta 4のピックアップの位置は70年代の位置にマウントされているのでしょうか？
Sire V7とAterier M245持ってますが、スタジオに両方持って行って、バンドメンバーに聴いてもらったところ満場一致でAtelierがよいとの評価を得ました。
私はSireの音もギラギラして好きなのですが、綺麗な音を出すならAtelierかな～と思ってます、
今のところフュージョンバンド以外はSireをライブでは使っています。
The Fender sounds best , we get what we pay for.
Fender needs to bring the Marcus Miller signature bass back.
Thank you ,,,
For a relatively small investment, the Sire V7 is a phenomenal value, so much so that your "we get what we pay for" is essentially meaningless. Sound wise, the Sire goes toes to toes with the Fender and Atelier. And features like 18V ridiculously versatile preamp, active/passive modes, strung through body, nice tone woods, et al, the Sire V7 is an excellent bass period.
Fender JB with XTCT was the most accurate to the original
ATELIER Z - ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fender has a distinct or very unique sound that I cannot explain why, Sire is closer to Fender when passive. But all of them are good bass.
MARK ANGELO VINLUAN
This JB77MM drives bartolini XTCT at 9V, so there is little less headroom.
fender has rough tone (somewhat delicate) compared to other active models.
I think that unique tone it reacts sensitively to the dynamics of the player's fingers, picking positions. causing dull tone changes that I also can't well explain.
The rough tone when I play "ff", and soft and warm tone when I play "pp" are the many passive basses I like and of course the character of fender.
@@ANTENNA5656 If I'm not mistaken the fender has the 70s pickup spacing which is sure to deliver different tone.
Great sound 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Closest to the Miller Sound is the Fender Bass, great sound, followed by the SIRE Bass, which sounds amazing too...
Many Thanks for the Video, cheers
Sire V7 (active) was awesome.
Nice Review! but it would be more exciting if you demo a Atelier Z (M-series) instead of a Beta model. :)
+James Patrick Silos
Ya abusolutely. It's best comparison if we ready to Atelier Z's M-series.
The Beta-series is reproduced in 24frets the sound of M245(20frets). Thank you for comment!
+ANTENNA565 You're welcome Sir! Moreover Atelier Z m-series equipped with xtct preamp just like the preamp installed by Roger Sadowsky in the Original Marcus miller Fender Jazzbass. I'm a Big fan of Marcus Miller
/ 70'ish Jazzbass. & I love Atelier Z basses too. M245 is my Weapon of choice (Proud owner here) Thanks & Godbless! :)
+james patrick silos Sire has a vintage 75 reissue that was a limited run but will be back soon. It has full 70's specs and 70's spacing. I'm in!
Yes Indeed! Lovin' the Sire Jazzbass too! :)
How can I search this background music wording........super like !!!! Thanks
Atelier Z has the sharpest attack and definitely would sit better in the mix... fender is the muddiest sounding, Sire sounds very good for its price!
I would love to hear this again but finger style
super the three basses , the power is fender marcus and second place sire
El Sire no es el que tiene los mics en posición 70s, por lo que la comparación es incorrecta
Awesome. ...
I own the SIRE P7 and it is the BEST P/J bass I own. Hard to believe I paid $450 for it like new. I want to get a Dragonfly next.
1 Atelier = 4 Sires for prices. no doubt
Would like to know which came out as your favourite! 😊
+Trevor Blair
We're planning some shootout videos of other Basses,Micpreamp,Direct box,Cables.
Please stay tuned. Thank you!
Really, no one? The Sire V7 is a 60s style Jazz Bass, withtout the same bridge pickup placement as the two others, it would have been judicious to choose a V7 Vintage for a fair comparison, but great video!!
アトリエzの方がマーカス感がでる
感じがする……
I choose the sire V7 Marcus Miller.
Anything on an M2 preamp sounds good lol.
The sire sounded like it was being played with a blanket over the speaker, especially in active mode. As much as I want to like it I would spend more to get what I want but for a newer player it could be great.
9999plato i understand your point of view but this bass would be great for any player,not just a newbie...it may not suit your tastes,but no need to diminish the value overall to a beginner bass... there are pros/veterans everywhere using these instruments on the road with notable artists and on major recording sessions.
To each his own. Though I no longer own any Squire Jazz basses they make those 70s squiers and the ones I tried I would play out any night. Nice basses, excellent at the price. I love those c shape narrow 70s necks. Many people might hate my Warmoth Gecko bass as it has a big neck and a more modern tone. If I had your bass in hand I might have a different opinion. Peace dude.
9999plato Don't get me wrong,I'm not trying to make you like the bass,i just said dismissing it as a beginner/newer player bass can't be true when there are seasoned pros using them on real gigs...that's all.it comes down to the player always...not how much an instrument costs.
Lol, the Sire sounds like straight piano strings here, very close to the Marcus Miller sound. And actually in this demo the Sire had more high frequencies in Active mode. As for as the whole "beginner bass bs", the V7 has an extremely versatile 18V preamp that puts many much more expensive basses to shame, it features a strung through body something that is unheard of at this price point. Sonically, there are literally hundreds of Sire V7 demos online (including this one), that don't sound the way you describe. But feel free to wave your snob flag, but there are countless experienced pros who own and gig with Sire basses.
スゲエ参考になりました。
ありがとうございま。
Is it okay to turn on the active preamp of sire while using the M2 preamp? What is your mixing on the knobs of sire?
Thank you for your acknowledgement! :)
はじめまして、自分もマーカスミラーモデルのベースを所有しているのですが、投稿者さんのベース フロントピックアップの少し上についてる黒いのはなんでしょうか？
コメントありがとうございます、フロントPU上のものは1.0～1.5mm厚のアクリル板を張り付け、さらに黒色のガムテープで巻いた厚紙を張り付けたフィンガーランプになります。
一般的なフィンガーランプと言われるものと取り付け位置が異なりますが、フィンガリングではなくスラップ時に指が深く入り込まないためのものとなります。
Great video. Thanks. I'd like to hear your opinion. If, hypothetically, an American Fender standard jazz bass and a Sire V7 were the same price, which one would you buy? Thanks again.
+jay contrino I've owned a ton of American Jazz basses and boutique Jazz basses (Lull, Sadowsky Metro, Valenti). I now own two Sire V7 basses and the tone blows away any active Fender bass I've played. Insane value for the price.
+rOb A The neck is a very standard Jazz "C" shape. String spacing is standard for a 1.5 inch nut. The back of the neck is a heavy gloss finish. Basically if you don't mind a standard Jazz, you will be at home.
The real game changer for this price point is the preamp. Just sounds like a MUCH more expensive instrument, and offers a crazy wide range of tones.
netdev1 Thanks. After hearing your opinion as well as others on UA-cam, I ordered the Sire V7, 4 string, ash body, maple neck. I can't wait for it to arrive. Thanks gain for your help.
+jay contrino FENDER AMERICAN I WOULD BUY IT THE PRICE WAS THE SAME
+rOb a I say very much so. I have Fender, Lakland, and so far a Sire alder/RW. The materials, workmanship, incredible electronics, tuners, bound, bone nut, playability, tone--- just a great value in MHO. I will be adding another to my collection next month too:)
Greetings brother where can I get the bass atelier?
fender..every time
1. SIRE
2. Fender
3. Atelier Z
Hi Antenna 565... Good job and good groove...
For me the Fender wins "at low hands" (a mani basse ah ah ..) as we say in Italy.
Which model is it? RI75 MIJ?
Sweet !
can you give me the sire pre amp settings?
M2 JAPAN FO SUR SOUNDS THE CLOSEST
素晴らしい動画をありがとうございました。３本の音の違いがよく分かりました。わたしの中では，アトリエＺの音が一番好みであり，マーカスの音にも一番近いのではないかと思います。Sireは，値段のわりには良いかなあ・・というのが正直な印象です。マーカス本人が弾いている動画もありますが，線が細くて軽い感じがします。フェンダー・ジャパンのマーカス・ミラーモデルも弾いたことがありますが，マーカスのそれとは明らかに別物だと感じました。楽器は，高ければいいというものではないかもしれませんが，これを見るかぎり，やはり値段の差が，はっきりと出ていると感じます。
+Tanaka Yoshi
コメントありがとうございます。サウンドの違いもさることながら、ビデオで伝えきれない要素の一つにセットアップのクオリティがありました。
Aterlier Zは演奏者やビデオ制作スタッフの間でも抜きん出て好印象でしたが、その評価はサウンドよりも”弾きやすさ”という項目でした。
録音前のセットアップでトラスロッドを回した時の追い詰め具合など、SireやFenderでは音をあげるシビアな要求にもきっちり応えてくれるという事も価格の差がはっきりと出た結果だと感じました。
Fender all the way
you are hooked on the brand .. I a blind test I wonder what you would have picked
Someone asked but nobody answered but where is the bassline at the beginning from? I know the test song is run for cover.
Nvm, knew I heard it before. Detroit it is.
All the bass on this new album was recorded using a SIRE 70s jazz!! facebook.com/nowplayingrocks
NOW PLAYING: ua-cam.com/play/PLg_wwLYiEy9YL594q-_pkwcZ_pETODQPD.html
👍❤️
ATELIER Z doesn't have the booty the SIre does. The pre-amp in the Sire is a very significant advantage. Sure it could just be EQ setting. I think the concept of the SIre being a value bass has backfired. It's sounds as good as any Fender. I use USA 70's Jazz with a bart and the Sire is the closest and may even be better.
Sire V7 sounds great!, better in passive mode. Excellent job!
can you add english subtitle on this.if possible tnx
+Third Bonagua done!
The after compairson of this video, He is talk about his favorite settings.(Strings height, Amp setting..)
Say what cha wanna say but that Fender MM4 got that "Stank " and I have a Sire V7..Atelier sounds great but I'm not going to pay that much for a Jazz Bass or any other bass...those days are over
Fender clear winner here.
you are hooked on the brand .. I a blind test I wonder what you would have picked
Arigato!!
SIRE!!!
run for coverのレッスン動画作って下さいm(_ _)m
supeeer..!!
hi there~
is this made in Indonesia?
+林群
Fender Japan JB77MM - made in japan
Atelier Z Beta4 Plus - made in japan
Sire V7 - made in korea(OEM from DAME guitar SANCTUS Series).
anyone is that Right ?
thx!!!! I'm Interested if there's any Korea made v7
and the official answer was no
appreciate!!!
+ANTENNA565 Yep Straight Dame bass copy.Dame were made in korea.Sire made in indonesia just like cort and the lakland skyline series
+林群 Yes probably in the cort factory like countless other basses
+powerofpeace7 Sire doesn't use OEM factories. Manufactured both in China and Indonesia currently.
Is that Korean or Japanies your speaking?
Japanese speaking!
Richard Mccain espanol
1º - MM
2º - Sire
3º - Atelier Z
The 1 dislike from Mr. Fender
Sire the best
The Sire always sounds better no matter what you do.
V7 superior