This is exactly what I was going to do to mine and it's exactly what I thought it would be. Keeping up with traffic, no lag on take off. I knew it would be. Thanks for the vid
i though about that idea on another bike i like to build. the 212 makes good power but its way too heavy and bulky. can't even take anywhere. a 79cc would be a ideal.
I did this with my 22 phatmoto rover, but with heavy head work, billet flywheel, .265 hot cam, and a 22mm mikuni carb. Don't build the engine this much, the front wheel wont stay down no matter what under more than 1/4 throttle. It jumps off the line like a dirt bike and pulls all the way to 70mph. I love the way it rides, and still gets 55mpg even when I ride it hard. I wouldn't use this big of a cam again because it is too much torque for daily riding.
@@N9197U well, if you think about it, a 212cc engine that makes 16hp, yes its gonna use more fuel than a 49cc that makes 2hp, technically its more efficernt because its 8x more power and only 2x the fuel consumption... also note that my bike has wide tires, double the weight of a regular bike, and I am not easy on the throttle, my average speed is 45mph and top speed is around 75mph.
Got me a 212, and a diamond frame. Gotta figure out how to get the extra wide pedals on it, and what the most solid wheel to sprocket connection I can have is. I would like to end up with 9 speeds out back, and 2 in the front, or a one speed with a small sprocket in front, and a 9 speed out back. I wanna torque my ride out so I can haul real heavy stuff like an extra large dog, and construction material.
Nice, that thing purrs like a kitten. I bet your ride is smooth AF. I have a 136cc with a death row TC. I need a custom vertical mount so i can fit it in my felt faker gas frame. Ill also have to have an intake and exhaust header custom made. Wish i had it all together, but winter is here now and ill have to wait anyways. Thanks for the video 🙂
i can't really say because i don't really drive it as often. in my case i have a lot of stop and go traffic and see the wear and tear on the belt. im on my second belt. your situation may very. if you are going this route just bring you another belt along your trip. you don't wanna break down in the middle of no where without a belt. good luck and ride safe.
Yeah I have to cut the seat tube out in order to make it happen. It's a trial and error project but at the end it was well wroth it. Thanks for watching!
I have the same arrangement and decided to leave the governor in place. It just goes as fast as it should with no suspension and low speed rated tires.
What gears you running I’m running 10t/56t 212cc need bigger sprocket with tc I’m doing 65mph + with predator just governor, delete 18 pound springs and billet flywheel and straight pipe with VM 22 carburetor. Are used to run a 10 to 4twos on Mike to 12 but I was informed to try a bigger sprocket and it I was a big difference.
It doesn't have any gears. I run what ever the CVT torque converter comes with. But I do run a 36 tooth rear sprocket topping out at 47mph with the governor still intact. Everything on the engine is stock from the factory but expect the exhaust. I don't think I want to go that fast especially on a bicycle frame. I feel much safe cruising below 40. Drive safe and thanks for watching!
I’m also using a torque converter it has a 10t gear. What I was saying is the torque converter with a 212cc like the bigger sprocket in the rear try a 56t on the rear. You’re engine will run better and will be a lot faster. Than with the 36t it’s totally different then a 2stroke that like the smaller sprocket like the 36t
@@mbrrideitlikeyoustoleit8436 from my experience the larger your rear sprocket the more torque at the pickup speed but will decrease top speed. The smaller the rear sprocket the more speed you'll gain but decrease low end torque.
You are a 💯right with a 2stroke you want a small sprocket for more top speed. I thought the same thing someone told me to try a 56t with my 212cc and I thought he was crazy but he was 💯right I’m going 60mph with a 56t rear sprocket and could go faster but don’t have the balls. I used to run a 40t on the rear with my 212cc. Hey cool bike either way. But try the big sprocket you will be very impressed.
Hey man you got any footy of the engine mount or drivetrain? After seeing this I stopped my other 2 stroke project and decided that this is the way to move me around.
I don't have any footage on the drivetrian. The drivetrain is a cvt torque converter similar to those use on go-karts. The difference is the driven output shaft had a 415 sprocket on the end of the shaft which drives the chain. This particular cvt torque converter is call the "death row" transmission. You can find them on ebay. For the engine mount it's nothing but a 10 gauge steel plate welded onto the frame. Then the 212 mounts on top of it. The seat tube has to be remove. Trial and error. But the effort wasn't in vain. Time spent was well worth it. Basically it's a motorcycle with pedals. Thanks for watching and good luck
I am waiting on my torque converter and I have my motor installed on a beach cruiser but the motor is lined up dead center with the bike and im concerned the drive sprocket is going to be too far off to the side to line up with my rear sprocket. Any suggestions?
If your bike has an installation kit design for the 212 with the cvt torque converter than everything should line up right. if not, i suggest you wait until you install the torque converter onto the engine than reinstall the whole thing onto the bike then go from there. that way you have some where to go by and make any changes and adjustment on your drive chain. i hope this helps and good luck on your build.
Present🙋👍I can safely say that you have taken itoo a new level.Im only 1 month into motorized bikes and there will be a rise in its uses. Bike shops are againsthem here it seems strange. Organized ignorance. Ride free outhere everyone..😁
hey where did you get that gas tank from? because the bike im gonna motorize looks like a chopper and i dont want the gas tank to be too big and yours looks perfect for my build
It ride smooth 35 to 40 city limit cruising speed. On the big open road I cruse at 48 just to keep up with traffic. I can gear it for more mph but I'm happy with 48. Thanks for watching
You got the same mirror as I got. They look cool but are short and if you losen bolts on mirror too much the 2 nuts inside the mirror will fall out! Yeah, :/ they put nuts not even glued inside the mirror.
How well does it fit, what kind of clearance do you have by the top of the head? did you have to make any supports custom or do any magic to fit that engine?
Yesterday I just bought a 7-speed Kent 2600 Bayside from the cheng chung store.....I mean Wal-Mart, and wanted to do the same engine swap you did except I wanna keep my derailer and 7-speeds. By ANY chance is that possible to do without chopping the entire bike in half? I'm new to the bike community so I'm sorry if my questions may seem a little effy. 😅
Little late, but w/e That bike will not work with predator 212 unless you modify the frame or get the small head from bikeberry/gasbike etc. . Better option for you will be a 80cc 4 stroke kit (it's plenty). As for the gears, you can still use them since they don't get in the way of the sprocket connected to the transmission. You can even add a shift kit that you can use with your 7-speed but it's a little bit more involved so I don't recommend it for newbies.
@@hellknight003 Here's one I'd like to see if anyone has tried.. a 212 cc friction drive set up. with that power I can see being able to use a large roller with means lots of top end.
Get a "jackshaft". Its just a small sprocket that attaches to ur normal drive sprocket by a short chain and has another sprocket on the side with ur original bike sprockets and u can run a chain from that side of the jackshaft to ur original sprocket with gears but id suggest getting an upgraded chain and gears cuz that engine is way more powerful than what its made for
i don't know how much it'll burn to a tank of gas but what i do know it only burns about 1/4 of gas @ 17 mile trip with a 32t rear sprocket. i don't drive it long enough to know the actual fuel milage. there's no modification done on the engine, still have the factory air filter box. only thing i done on the engine i had the muffler removed and ran a straight pipe. thanks for watching!!!!
good question. im not sure. you might want to give them a call and see if it will fit. also you'll find the engine mounting hole pattern on HarborFreight website see if it will match the engine mount on the bike. sorry i couldn't help much.
Yes, check out the Phatmoto Facebook page. There's a guy on it who makes mounts to fit directly on the Phatmoto frame, no mods. facebook.com/groups/208333067191742/?ref=share
@@iceyaj3167 thank you for letting me knwo, im currently iun the making of one and all i need to do is add the back tire a cvt and brakes im very excited. great build you have
At this point why don't you just buy a motorcycle? I don't know what state you're in but in my state you don't have to insure a motorcycle. So get yourself a small displacement bike, which will be dirt cheap because everybody wants big displacement. And ride a real motorcycle. It's going to be safer in every way possible. You're going to have more tire more brake and if you want it more speed for sure
this bicycle is an eye candy neck breaker. i get stop every time and get question where did i got it from LOL. this video was made for my viewers that it's possible to motorized a bicycle with a 212 power plant. this is not my daily transportation, this project was made for the fun of it. and no i don't want a heavy motorcycle where i can't ride in areas where motorcycle forbids to go and never tend to get one. when shit hits the fan all i want is a bicycle that can keep up with traffic. thanks for watching!!!
@@iceyaj3167 so lots of men are stopping you and talking to you.. not a single woman? You do know guys will talk to you more if you've got a motorcycle right
@@RS-xq6je the plate agency probably laugh at me. the vin number on this bicycle doesn't exist and there's no turn singles or lights. just a traditional reflectors that comes with the bike. thanks!
@@iceyaj3167 i started my own build this week. I need to take one of my parts to a shop to modify it to fit, but putting the engine together has been a very nice educational experience. Thank you and others for putting out these videos and exposing more people to the hobby?
This is exactly what I was going to do to mine and it's exactly what I thought it would be. Keeping up with traffic, no lag on take off. I knew it would be. Thanks for the vid
I love it. I ride this often than my 2 stroke. Thanks for watching
@@iceyaj3167 how fast is it and way size sprocket on the front on the cvt?
@@lastoppertunity333 I don't know what size is it. I ran whatever it came with. Thanks for watching
Is that a regular motor bike throttle hook to the predator, or you have to get different throttle? And is your gas line bigger?
Yes. I would like torque converters for even smaller engine. Imagine a 2 stroke 33cc or 71cc engine with a new 2 speed auto gearbox.
I have a cvt on my 78.5cc. whole process how you can double key a motor shaft as well on there! for the 5/8 to 3/4 conversion
i though about that idea on another bike i like to build. the 212 makes good power but its way too heavy and bulky. can't even take anywhere. a 79cc would be a ideal.
@@iceyaj3167 consider the fact that the 79cc is not over doing the frame.
@@jonathanvaldez2460 that's the only problem it always looks weird but I want to put worked 212 on a bike with a 30 series juggernaut cvt
That's what I was thinking but it's only a hair over 10 lb difference and it's more than double the torque 🤔🤔
Sunset and sunrise are best times for riding! She moves nice too👍
Totally. Less traffic on the road.
I did this with my 22 phatmoto rover, but with heavy head work, billet flywheel, .265 hot cam, and a 22mm mikuni carb. Don't build the engine this much, the front wheel wont stay down no matter what under more than 1/4 throttle. It jumps off the line like a dirt bike and pulls all the way to 70mph. I love the way it rides, and still gets 55mpg even when I ride it hard. I wouldn't use this big of a cam again because it is too much torque for daily riding.
55 mpg sounds really low, do you lose that much mpg with the bigger engine? I have a 49cc and get about 100 mpg.
@@N9197U well, if you think about it, a 212cc engine that makes 16hp, yes its gonna use more fuel than a 49cc that makes 2hp, technically its more efficernt because its 8x more power and only 2x the fuel consumption... also note that my bike has wide tires, double the weight of a regular bike, and I am not easy on the throttle, my average speed is 45mph and top speed is around 75mph.
@@joshanderson1019 16 Horsepower???? That's nightmare fast you weren't kidding
Got me a 212, and a diamond frame. Gotta figure out how to get the extra wide pedals on it, and what the most solid wheel to sprocket connection I can have is. I would like to end up with 9 speeds out back, and 2 in the front, or a one speed with a small sprocket in front, and a 9 speed out back. I wanna torque my ride out so I can haul real heavy stuff like an extra large dog, and construction material.
Nice, that thing purrs like a kitten. I bet your ride is smooth AF.
I have a 136cc with a death row TC.
I need a custom vertical mount so i can fit it in my felt faker gas frame. Ill also have to have an intake and exhaust header custom made.
Wish i had it all together, but winter is here now and ill have to wait anyways.
Thanks for the video 🙂
Thanks for the ride! Love the sound.
you're welcome. thanks. i love this bike. a lot of torque. its a neck breaker.
That's the perfect setup... Nice job on your build 👍👍👍👍
1:20ish- The optical illusion going on with the stop sign! That bike is highly over powered. So congratulations, great work :)
its dangerous. thanks for watching :)
I think it’s just light reflecting off of the sign it’s probably blinking because the light was too
Not sure if you still have it, but how long does a belt last on the torque converter?
i can't really say because i don't really drive it as often. in my case i have a lot of stop and go traffic and see the wear and tear on the belt. im on my second belt. your situation may very. if you are going this route just bring you another belt along your trip. you don't wanna break down in the middle of no where without a belt. good luck and ride safe.
You Musta cut the center bar out if you’re using a hyper cruiser that’s what I’m using a hyper beach cruiser that I stretched 1 foot
Yeah I have to cut the seat tube out in order to make it happen. It's a trial and error project but at the end it was well wroth it. Thanks for watching!
I have the same arrangement and decided to leave the governor in place. It just goes as fast as it should with no suspension and low speed rated tires.
Cool. I have a 212 sitting in the garage… I’ll put it on my bike lol.
What gears you running I’m running 10t/56t 212cc need bigger sprocket with tc I’m doing 65mph + with predator just governor, delete 18 pound springs and billet flywheel and straight pipe with VM 22 carburetor. Are used to run a 10 to 4twos on Mike to 12 but I was informed to try a bigger sprocket and it I was a big difference.
It doesn't have any gears. I run what ever the CVT torque converter comes with. But I do run a 36 tooth rear sprocket topping out at 47mph with the governor still intact. Everything on the engine is stock from the factory but expect the exhaust. I don't think I want to go that fast especially on a bicycle frame. I feel much safe cruising below 40. Drive safe and thanks for watching!
I’m also using a torque converter it has a 10t gear. What I was saying is the torque converter with a 212cc like the bigger sprocket in the rear try a 56t on the rear. You’re engine will run better and will be a lot faster. Than with the 36t it’s totally different then a 2stroke that like the smaller sprocket like the 36t
@@mbrrideitlikeyoustoleit8436 from my experience the larger your rear sprocket the more torque at the pickup speed but will decrease top speed. The smaller the rear sprocket the more speed you'll gain but decrease low end torque.
You are a 💯right with a 2stroke you want a small sprocket for more top speed. I thought the same thing someone told me to try a 56t with my 212cc and I thought he was crazy but he was 💯right I’m going 60mph with a 56t rear sprocket and could go faster but don’t have the balls. I used to run a 40t on the rear with my 212cc. Hey cool bike either way. But try the big sprocket you will be very impressed.
I put one of those on a Schwinn trike. Maxx Torque clutch. MB sprocket adaptor. 44 T chain. It's a hand full. 4 x 26" rear tires.
How can i do that ..what kind engine
@@hulkfelipe1 Harbor Freight engine.
Yea that’s the engine. Where did you get brackets from and what not ? Just another engine kit I’m guessing ?
@@socialmediaego You would be wrong. There is no kit I know of. I used 1/4" plate steel as the engine platform. A machine shop cut out the chain hole.
@@Saddletramp1200 Gotcha now. That helps.
I have threee 212 engines new in the box waiting for a bike this is what I want to do just need a good bike to build on and make it
I have to go 212 on my project, I love the sound
Hey man you got any footy of the engine mount or drivetrain? After seeing this I stopped my other 2 stroke project and decided that this is the way to move me around.
I don't have any footage on the drivetrian. The drivetrain is a cvt torque converter similar to those use on go-karts. The difference is the driven output shaft had a 415 sprocket on the end of the shaft which drives the chain. This particular cvt torque converter is call the "death row" transmission. You can find them on ebay. For the engine mount it's nothing but a 10 gauge steel plate welded onto the frame. Then the 212 mounts on top of it. The seat tube has to be remove. Trial and error. But the effort wasn't in vain. Time spent was well worth it. Basically it's a motorcycle with pedals. Thanks for watching and good luck
@@iceyaj3167 thanks for the information man I appreciate it. I'll send you a link with the finished product
I am waiting on my torque converter and I have my motor installed on a beach cruiser but the motor is lined up dead center with the bike and im concerned the drive sprocket is going to be too far off to the side to line up with my rear sprocket. Any suggestions?
If your bike has an installation kit design for the 212 with the cvt torque converter than everything should line up right. if not, i suggest you wait until you install the torque converter onto the engine than reinstall the whole thing onto the bike then go from there. that way you have some where to go by and make any changes and adjustment on your drive chain. i hope this helps and good luck on your build.
Do you need to register it even though it has pedals that work because if the pedals are working it's still a bicycle
I'm not sure if you can register it since it doesn't have any identification number. It's not my daily transportation.
Present🙋👍I can safely say that you have taken itoo a new level.Im only 1 month into motorized bikes and there will be a rise in its uses. Bike shops are againsthem here it seems strange. Organized ignorance. Ride free outhere everyone..😁
Thanks!!!
You still have this bike? Need new ride video update.
Wow what a nice smooth ride
hey where did you get that gas tank from? because the bike im gonna motorize looks like a chopper and i dont want the gas tank to be too big and yours looks perfect for my build
@@Duardo01010 you'll find it on ebay or Amazon. It's call motorize bike fuel tank.
Now that is the kid of bike I love to ride. Hope I must get a motorcycle helmet.
what make cvt did you use for this?
Hey awesome build, just wondering what bike is that?
thanks for watching. its an 26" Hyper Beach Cruiser
Do you have to register that? Or is it treated like a bicycle
They'll probably laugh at me if I try to get it registered.
@@iceyaj3167 fair enough
As long as a cop doesn't harass you who cares
haha that's a cool death trap buddy, be careful out there
I’m seeing these engines everywhere. Where is the actual kit for it ?
This particular engine isn't a kit. This engine was designed for a pressure washer but I managed to rig it into my bicycle.
@@iceyaj3167 👍true backyard engineer.
It is a kit look up death row 212cc bike kit
I bet that thing pulls hills like it aint shit.
Nice set of wheels you have there
Very cool. What is your cruising speed and top speed?
It ride smooth 35 to 40 city limit cruising speed. On the big open road I cruse at 48 just to keep up with traffic. I can gear it for more mph but I'm happy with 48. Thanks for watching
@@iceyaj3167 That is excellent. Thank you.
You got the same mirror as I got. They look cool but are short and if you losen bolts on mirror too much the 2 nuts inside the mirror will fall out! Yeah, :/ they put nuts not even glued inside the mirror.
It took me a while to figure out the differences between this and a geared motor cycle. The motor doesn't help slow the bike down, or does it?
theres a shitload of chain resistance in most of these builds, could be why hes slowing down like that
How well does it fit, what kind of clearance do you have by the top of the head? did you have to make any supports custom or do any magic to fit that engine?
Yesterday I just bought a 7-speed Kent 2600 Bayside from the cheng chung store.....I mean Wal-Mart, and wanted to do the same engine swap you did except I wanna keep my derailer and 7-speeds. By ANY chance is that possible to do without chopping the entire bike in half? I'm new to the bike community so I'm sorry if my questions may seem a little effy. 😅
Little late, but w/e
That bike will not work with predator 212 unless you modify the frame or get the small head from bikeberry/gasbike etc. . Better option for you will be a 80cc 4 stroke kit (it's plenty). As for the gears, you can still use them since they don't get in the way of the sprocket connected to the transmission. You can even add a shift kit that you can use with your 7-speed but it's a little bit more involved so I don't recommend it for newbies.
@@hellknight003 Here's one I'd like to see if anyone has tried.. a 212 cc friction drive set up. with that power I can see being able to use a large roller with means lots of top end.
Get a "jackshaft". Its just a small sprocket that attaches to ur normal drive sprocket by a short chain and has another sprocket on the side with ur original bike sprockets and u can run a chain from that side of the jackshaft to ur original sprocket with gears but id suggest getting an upgraded chain and gears cuz that engine is way more powerful than what its made for
Is it 10 teeth in the front and 36 teeth in the back?
This told me what I needed to see thanks ! , quick question do you know your top mileage on it and if it’s modified ?
i don't know how much it'll burn to a tank of gas but what i do know it only burns about 1/4 of gas @ 17 mile trip with a 32t rear sprocket. i don't drive it long enough to know the actual fuel milage. there's no modification done on the engine, still have the factory air filter box. only thing i done on the engine i had the muffler removed and ran a straight pipe. thanks for watching!!!!
Good to know thank you !
Love it!!! That's a great setup 👍👍.. I enjoyed the video
Thanks. Ride safe!!!
did you have to do anything to the frame?
Yeah i did. had to remove the seat tube. thanks for watching!
@@iceyaj3167 hows the frame hold together lol
@@TanBoiIndustries i had this set up almost 4 years so far it's holding up to this day.
@@iceyaj3167 interesting.
@@TanBoiIndustries it's my honest review
This has a great ride. Seem smooth too
its an alright ride it could of been better. thanks for watching!!!
how did you get the sprocket on the wheel?
I use a typical rag joint for motorized bike
would this 212cc fit on an all terrain phatmoto bike
good question. im not sure. you might want to give them a call and see if it will fit. also you'll find the engine mounting hole pattern on HarborFreight website see if it will match the engine mount on the bike. sorry i couldn't help much.
Yes, check out the Phatmoto Facebook page. There's a guy on it who makes mounts to fit directly on the Phatmoto frame, no mods.
facebook.com/groups/208333067191742/?ref=share
whats the top speed
48MPH is the top speed. i can gear it up to 60+ but i wouldn't push it. 40 is enough around town. thanks for watching
@@iceyaj3167 thank you for letting me knwo, im currently iun the making of one and all i need to do is add the back tire a cvt and brakes im very excited. great build you have
@@Mike-nm9ru thanks and good luck on your build. just watch out for cars on the road. because they don't watch out for folks like us.
you live in virginia?
At this point why don't you just buy a motorcycle?
I don't know what state you're in but in my state you don't have to insure a motorcycle.
So get yourself a small displacement bike, which will be dirt cheap because everybody wants big displacement. And ride a real motorcycle.
It's going to be safer in every way possible. You're going to have more tire more brake and if you want it more speed for sure
this bicycle is an eye candy neck breaker. i get stop every time and get question where did i got it from LOL. this video was made for my viewers that it's possible to motorized a bicycle with a 212 power plant. this is not my daily transportation, this project was made for the fun of it. and no i don't want a heavy motorcycle where i can't ride in areas where motorcycle forbids to go and never tend to get one. when shit hits the fan all i want is a bicycle that can keep up with traffic. thanks for watching!!!
@@iceyaj3167 so lots of men are stopping you and talking to you.. not a single woman?
You do know guys will talk to you more if you've got a motorcycle right
@@Bozemanjustin the last time I went for a joy ride and land next to a group of harley biker gang....few of them gave me a 👍
Is it any of your business? Turning a push bike into a motorbike is satisfying
@@Bozemanjustin that was a savage comment 💯
💥👊😎💥
How is this more dangerous than a normal bicycle?
careless motorist judging the rider as a low speed bicycle and will pull in front. i seen it happen.
@@iceyaj3167 do you have this registered for road use? That's pretty cool
@@RS-xq6je the plate agency probably laugh at me. the vin number on this bicycle doesn't exist and there's no turn singles or lights. just a traditional reflectors that comes with the bike. thanks!
@@RS-xq6je i don't ride this bike on the road, its just something i build just for fun.
@@iceyaj3167 i started my own build this week. I need to take one of my parts to a shop to modify it to fit, but putting the engine together has been a very nice educational experience.
Thank you and others for putting out these videos and exposing more people to the hobby?
I wanna build one also but here on europe we only have centrifugal clutchs , not sure if they hold 90 kilos of human ahahah
What motor mount did you use
the bottom mount is a 10 gauge steel plate welded onto the frame and a 10 gauge flat bar as a column that support the upper part of the engine.
Thank you I have 2 strokes and 49cc 4 strokes im build 212 now im staging the motor first before the build
@@nicholasmoseley5939 hey you're welcome. i hope every goes well on your build. keep your ears and eyes peeled on them cars on the road. stay safe!!!
Cool chil ride
It's good that you don't use a clutch.
i enjoy it
Badass
So cool
Well now I want to biuld one lol
I'm sure nobody wanted to see the bike, those awesome gloves were so much more interesting, (smh)
LOL they're blum wear out
Sarcasm advocate 🤣
Totally useless vdo!