WAIT!!! 4 YEARS AGO??? But I just got notice that it was on the store 1 week ago, I was so excited that they get a new game for my disgaea.... It may be because now it's in swich :/
+Admiral Vic I'd like to do it to have a better item world run. See, I made a mistake, where Killia is around.. 30 levels Higher than everyone so I want them to catch up
+SebTH1 at around 140 you can just curbstomp the entire story from chapter 9 to 16 and then you need at least 3000+ to get to loc and sages are the best for the item world personally i prefer laharl thx to his overload its great for clearing maps and thx to the not shit accuracy of the land decimator its better but the range is a lot smaller
This will come in handy when I get my copy. Thanks. Are statistician innocents still a thing in this game and how hard are they to get a decent amount of?
ashlii21 "Are statistician innocents still a thing in this game" Yes. i.imgur.com/R3x8koS.jpg "how hard are they to get a decent amount of?" I looked at about 550 of my weapons and found 12. They don't seem extremely rare like weapon resistance innocents, but nowhere near as common as stat boosting ones. None of the ones I found start at a level above five, with most of them being three or four, where as I've found stat boosting ones (besides HP/SP) in the 15+ range.
Do the statisticians have a cap? with the cheat shop and the statisticians stacking to 900, is it possible to stack like 3000 statisticians on an item to get to max level in like one or two battles? Or is the cap just at 900 and that's it?
+jakeusaf22 "Do the statisticians have a cap?" Yes. 900. "get to max level in like one or two battles?" If you can do Ordeal 5 in CD at two stars with a 900 statistician, then you can be 9,999 in one fight. Three stars is pretty much a guaranteed 9,999 regardless of what you do (people in the xp subclass, killing only the middle one, no statisticians, in the elite 4 class, etc).
so just killing the middle guy in stage 5? because I have two stacks of 900 statisticians and I can kill all of the mobs in stage 5 but it doesnt max my lvl to 9999. Hence my confusion, and my cheat stars are at 20 as well? Or am I just doing something very wrong?
+jakeusaf22 "Or am I just doing something very wrong?" You are. The key detail is that you need to do it in CARNAGE DIMENSION (CD) to get the instant 9,999 thing I mentioned. Takes about an hour to do it on the normal one at 20 stars. "because I have two stacks of 900 statisticians" PS These don't stack.
Admiral Vic is martial training final trial better than sandcano challenge??? and is the final trial the fatest way to get to lvl 9999 cause Im having trouble maxing out my lvl 6k mage :(
+xehanort249 yea martial training is the best money maps are better for class proficiency money and mana but for XP this is the the best no matter what
+Andrew Prince "Question how do I know when to stop reincarnating?" You should know when it feels like you're wasting your time. I don't recall the specifics, but the first couple of times I recall getting like 50 additional points to allocate, where as after 10 it was like eight. " And about how many times should I hit lv 9999 before I stop and use the elite four" Around 10.
+Andrew Prince "orange bar mean when I'm rencarnating btw it gets bigger each time" Are you talking about the ones for stats? If so, that just impacts how much they develop. If not, then I don't know which one you mean.
Admiral Vic Yeah no one has. I see the videos. Like the box thing. I've been told that you don't need maids or sages for the turn refresh/double attack. They only speed it up. But apparently not. So I have to burn through a shit ton of sodas for 2 classes to get those abilities. It's pointlessly tedious kind : o
+Monty2289 u only have to lvl up a maid to 188(takes... about an hour to an hour and a half roughly, took me longer bc i took a break) then you can make a 150 thief and then you're typically supposed to use towers to kill the boxes with the characters you want the class exp on. then you start tower clearing 2-1 which i personally suggest putting a 150 generic as the base since they take all the damage and can handle 20 stars easy since thats only lvl 65 mobs, then around like 70 or so u move to 4-2 and raise the star difficulty to 16 so enemies are lvl 99(give roughly lvl 300 enemy exp) THEN after you do that you can try martial 1 which only takes 1 star to get lvl 99 which personally im still tower clearing since you need probably 10k atk to actually 1 shot it like he does in this video
+google plus svcks balls uh did u not read that at all? lol the 2-1 and 4-2 is the better method till u unlock martial 1. i unfortunately didnt find the other 2 till after i did the sodas(which i found that strat on gamefaqs unlike the 2-1 and 4-2 which i later found on youtube NOW that the game has been out a week) and depending where in the story you are IE ch 8 martial 1 is the best u can get so care to elaborate how im wrong? the only reason i mentioned the sodas btw was he didnt understand the process and thought he had to lvl multiple characters that way. Edit: the one thing i got wrong was possibly my guess on how much atk/spd you would need to pull off martial 1 but i doubt it, however mages esp ice mages IE pram if u have the dlc can do it easily at i think i started her last night at maybe 3k int without her bonus water damage evility for the lvl 99 version then around 600 i bumped it to lvl 454 and she can still do it just needs the small bump of a sage to give her double attack
seth smith I know now. I'll be doing the main characters instead because I actually like them. At least the time frame will be roughly twice that so it won't bother me.
unlocking the stages and explaining how to actually be able to just destroy them are 2 different things... u unlock martial 1 before the first stage you showed or rather you can unlock it sooner but no one ever explains a real strategy or stats to aim for or anything
+seth smith " but no one ever explains a real strategy or stats to aim for or anything" Serious question, but do you have any experience with Disgaea? I ask this because this isn't a simple matter of saying "oh, get 400 attack." or "start here and use this attack and then this attack and then this attack," because Disgaea is so complex that there is a multitude of ways to complete a task. You can increase stats/damage by maximizing perks, abusing specific classes special skills, boosting your super gauge, and some tactics include pulling out a ton of archers to give you a combo boost, multiple magichanges, etc.
+Admiral Vic completely missed my point kinda lol. my point is you dont mention the fact you have to lvl at 2-1 and then 4-2 using towers just to get over 100. all i meant was about what your atk/spd/int stat has to be up to to 1 shot them not to mention if u unlock that stage when it first comes out you can get at best weapons with like 200 damage or if you're lucky 600/700 from the stage itself. oh and to answer your question yes ive played every previous disgaea actually tho i never clear LOC
+seth smith "my point is you dont mention the fact you have to lvl at 2-1 and then 4-2 using towers just to get over 100." Probably because I never leveled at 2-1, nor did I ever bother with towers. I actually progressed through the game normally with max experience, got to the end with my main people being level 200+, went back and did Ordeal 1, farmed that and progressed in the post game stuff until I was able to farm Ordeal 4 and then did that until I unlocked and could do Ordeal 5, which I farmed until I was 9,999. "all i meant was about what your atk/spd/int stat has to be up to to 1 shot them" You also missed my point entirely. Not only do you expect me to figure out the minimum needed, but you overlook the multitude of ways to handle any given situation. Different evilities will make a difference, different characters will also make a difference, having certain skills will yet again make a difference. Thats the issue and why I doubt your experience, since there are no real guidelines in the world of Disgaea.
+Admiral Vic fair enough, i took a break from the story since i took the time to bribe the senate and unlock martial 1 which i have pram power leveling everyone in the exp group on the lvl 99 version of them
+seth smith Pram is like...the most broken character, ever. I have her as the leader of the Bootcamp Squad, and in Martial 1, I just threw out the DLC prinny with 100k life while Pram chilled at the lower right of the map. The 3 enemies kicked the crap out of the prinny while I kept ending my turn, raining lasers down on the enemies till they died. Repeat the process and bam, eventually got Pram to level 400 in the cheapest way possible. Martial Training, Cheat Shop and Pram are a game-breaking combination.Especially when further combined with EXP based squads. You barely have to lift a finger.
i've been stuck at lv 9999 for long now aswell as hp dose'nt increase anymore....i reincarnated two-three battles after getting to lv 9999, i don't remember the hp then...but...i can't go further up...do any guys know if i can exceed the limit and when i should reincarnate second time? my sage is now at 2722827 Hp... i could have done little math about that but i was sadly to stupid to write down about the first reincarnation, but i had the thought cross my mind...but i thought it was going to be a cake and i would go up to 10000 lv bar....spo that's why i was so coky about not writing it down...but since i'm still at 9999 it was a stupid move, i know :) Extra details: I've Lv 900 staticians on the sage, and she has a weapon with 6-8 bars and revenge booster on, aswell as cheat shop at 996, only to get the other things something...
Cause it's easier to keep track of when to reincarnate if you've forgotten/did'nt knew it was going to stop at 9999 in the first way. I've never done the wait til you're at that lv before reincarnatin i've done it earlier in other disgaea games, so therefore i'm concerned when one should reincarante 2 time.
+Sodisna "Unless you got some sort of reviewers copy." Also correct. I really don't understand why people hassle me over Disgaea 5, but didn't hassle me over Neptunia 1/2/V/Mugen Souls/Splatoon or a number of games I uploaded before release.
Thanks for sharing the early leveling one, i can't wait to start using it when i get there!
WAIT!!! 4 YEARS AGO??? But I just got notice that it was on the store 1 week ago, I was so excited that they get a new game for my disgaea.... It may be because now it's in swich :/
Nah. It released about a year or so ago on Switch.
Hmm.... Just like Disgaea 4, you can level up to 4 monsters at the same time using magichange~
interesting :3
Hi, any recommendation for leveling up in the early parts of the game?
I guess my Noob-ness of Disgaea shows, do I have to beat story to even have a chance at power leveling?
I'm just around level 85 with Killia at my max
+SebTH1 No, but it is pointless.
+Admiral Vic I'd like to do it to have a better item world run.
See, I made a mistake, where Killia is around.. 30 levels Higher than everyone
so I want them to catch up
+SebTH1 at around 140 you can just curbstomp the entire story from chapter 9 to 16 and then you need at least 3000+ to get to loc and sages are the best for the item world personally i prefer laharl thx to his overload its great for clearing maps and thx to the not shit accuracy of the land decimator its better but the range is a lot smaller
+monster at night “da finnish noob” man I dont even know how to get the sage class/quest lol
you unlock it automatically at i think chapter 14
This will come in handy when I get my copy. Thanks. Are statistician innocents still a thing in this game and how hard are they to get a decent amount of?
ashlii21 "Are statistician innocents still a thing in this game"
Yes. i.imgur.com/R3x8koS.jpg
"how hard are they to get a decent amount of?"
I looked at about 550 of my weapons and found 12. They don't seem extremely rare like weapon resistance innocents, but nowhere near as common as stat boosting ones. None of the ones I found start at a level above five, with most of them being three or four, where as I've found stat boosting ones (besides HP/SP) in the 15+ range.
+Admiral Vic thats why you just innocent farm it up till you get that 900 stack and then you happy :)
Do the statisticians have a cap? with the cheat shop and the statisticians stacking to 900, is it possible to stack like 3000 statisticians on an item to get to max level in like one or two battles? Or is the cap just at 900 and that's it?
+jakeusaf22 "Do the statisticians have a cap?"
Yes. 900.
"get to max level in like one or two battles?"
If you can do Ordeal 5 in CD at two stars with a 900 statistician, then you can be 9,999 in one fight. Three stars is pretty much a guaranteed 9,999 regardless of what you do (people in the xp subclass, killing only the middle one, no statisticians, in the elite 4 class, etc).
so just killing the middle guy in stage 5? because I have two stacks of 900 statisticians and I can kill all of the mobs in stage 5 but it doesnt max my lvl to 9999. Hence my confusion, and my cheat stars are at 20 as well? Or am I just doing something very wrong?
+jakeusaf22 "Or am I just doing something very wrong?"
You are. The key detail is that you need to do it in CARNAGE DIMENSION (CD) to get the instant 9,999 thing I mentioned. Takes about an hour to do it on the normal one at 20 stars.
"because I have two stacks of 900 statisticians"
PS These don't stack.
Admiral Vic is martial training final trial better than sandcano challenge??? and is the final trial the fatest way to get to lvl 9999 cause Im having trouble maxing out my lvl 6k mage :(
+xehanort249 yea martial training is the best money maps are better for class proficiency money and mana but for XP this is the the best no matter what
Thanks dude!!! but its gonna take a while isnt it?
+xehanort249 Depends how far you're. You can get from 1 to 9,999/cap a class/etc in a minute after a certain point.
Admiral does Normal traps help in powerleveling? when you have no carnage traps
even the loc dark rosaries are better than the normal trap once you get to loc the normal items become carbage
can you help me please, how do you magichange usalia and 3 prinnies? when i try i can only use her and 1 prinny
+Strykking you gotta unlock the dual magichange squad.
Question how do I know when to stop rencarnating? And about how many times should I hit lv 9999 before I stop and use the elite four
+Andrew Prince "Question how do I know when to stop reincarnating?"
You should know when it feels like you're wasting your time. I don't recall the specifics, but the first couple of times I recall getting like 50 additional points to allocate, where as after 10 it was like eight.
" And about how many times should I hit lv 9999 before I stop and use the elite four"
Around 10.
+Admiral Vic awesome thanks what does the orange bar mean when I'm rencarnating btw it gets bigger each time
+Andrew Prince "orange bar mean when I'm rencarnating btw it gets bigger each time"
Are you talking about the ones for stats? If so, that just impacts how much they develop. If not, then I don't know which one you mean.
how can i move the shops/etc in the Base like yours? The cheat guy and stuff?
+Vanslipper Around chapter 10 you get the ability to edit levels and with that you can mess with it.
I am terrible at these titles. Just tried the thing with thief box to level up class faster. That shit does not work
+Monty2289 Tis cool. At least people explain how to do it better to you. :3
Admiral Vic Yeah no one has. I see the videos. Like the box thing. I've been told that you don't need maids or sages for the turn refresh/double attack. They only speed it up. But apparently not. So I have to burn through a shit ton of sodas for 2 classes to get those abilities. It's pointlessly tedious kind : o
+Monty2289 u only have to lvl up a maid to 188(takes... about an hour to an hour and a half roughly, took me longer bc i took a break) then you can make a 150 thief and then you're typically supposed to use towers to kill the boxes with the characters you want the class exp on. then you start tower clearing 2-1 which i personally suggest putting a 150 generic as the base since they take all the damage and can handle 20 stars easy since thats only lvl 65 mobs, then around like 70 or so u move to 4-2 and raise the star difficulty to 16 so enemies are lvl 99(give roughly lvl 300 enemy exp) THEN after you do that you can try martial 1 which only takes 1 star to get lvl 99 which personally im still tower clearing since you need probably 10k atk to actually 1 shot it like he does in this video
+google plus svcks balls uh did u not read that at all? lol the 2-1 and 4-2 is the better method till u unlock martial 1. i unfortunately didnt find the other 2 till after i did the sodas(which i found that strat on gamefaqs unlike the 2-1 and 4-2 which i later found on youtube NOW that the game has been out a week) and depending where in the story you are IE ch 8 martial 1 is the best u can get so care to elaborate how im wrong? the only reason i mentioned the sodas btw was he didnt understand the process and thought he had to lvl multiple characters that way.
Edit: the one thing i got wrong was possibly my guess on how much atk/spd you would need to pull off martial 1 but i doubt it, however mages esp ice mages IE pram if u have the dlc can do it easily at i think i started her last night at maybe 3k int without her bonus water damage evility for the lvl 99 version then around 600 i bumped it to lvl 454 and she can still do it just needs the small bump of a sage to give her double attack
seth smith I know now. I'll be doing the main characters instead because I actually like them. At least the time frame will be roughly twice that so it won't bother me.
unlocking the stages and explaining how to actually be able to just destroy them are 2 different things... u unlock martial 1 before the first stage you showed or rather you can unlock it sooner but no one ever explains a real strategy or stats to aim for or anything
+seth smith " but no one ever explains a real strategy or stats to aim for or anything"
Serious question, but do you have any experience with Disgaea? I ask this because this isn't a simple matter of saying "oh, get 400 attack." or "start here and use this attack and then this attack and then this attack," because Disgaea is so complex that there is a multitude of ways to complete a task.
You can increase stats/damage by maximizing perks, abusing specific classes special skills, boosting your super gauge, and some tactics include pulling out a ton of archers to give you a combo boost, multiple magichanges, etc.
+Admiral Vic completely missed my point kinda lol. my point is you dont mention the fact you have to lvl at 2-1 and then 4-2 using towers just to get over 100. all i meant was about what your atk/spd/int stat has to be up to to 1 shot them not to mention if u unlock that stage when it first comes out you can get at best weapons with like 200 damage or if you're lucky 600/700 from the stage itself. oh and to answer your question yes ive played every previous disgaea actually tho i never clear LOC
+seth smith "my point is you dont mention the fact you have to lvl at 2-1 and then 4-2 using towers just to get over 100."
Probably because I never leveled at 2-1, nor did I ever bother with towers. I actually progressed through the game normally with max experience, got to the end with my main people being level 200+, went back and did Ordeal 1, farmed that and progressed in the post game stuff until I was able to farm Ordeal 4 and then did that until I unlocked and could do Ordeal 5, which I farmed until I was 9,999.
"all i meant was about what your atk/spd/int stat has to be up to to 1 shot them"
You also missed my point entirely. Not only do you expect me to figure out the minimum needed, but you overlook the multitude of ways to handle any given situation. Different evilities will make a difference, different characters will also make a difference, having certain skills will yet again make a difference. Thats the issue and why I doubt your experience, since there are no real guidelines in the world of Disgaea.
+Admiral Vic fair enough, i took a break from the story since i took the time to bribe the senate and unlock martial 1 which i have pram power leveling everyone in the exp group on the lvl 99 version of them
+seth smith Pram is like...the most broken character, ever. I have her as the leader of the Bootcamp Squad, and in Martial 1, I just threw out the DLC prinny with 100k life while Pram chilled at the lower right of the map. The 3 enemies kicked the crap out of the prinny while I kept ending my turn, raining lasers down on the enemies till they died. Repeat the process and bam, eventually got Pram to level 400 in the cheapest way possible. Martial Training, Cheat Shop and Pram are a game-breaking combination.Especially when further combined with EXP based squads. You barely have to lift a finger.
How are you able to attack more than 2 times at the last level? Surely that's not Double dragon evility right?
+FortMustard Should be.
+Admiral Vic does adells ability stack with double dragon eveility?
+wessee427 no cule.
i've been stuck at lv 9999 for long now aswell as hp dose'nt increase anymore....i reincarnated two-three battles after getting to lv 9999, i don't remember the hp then...but...i can't go further up...do any guys know if i can exceed the limit and when i should reincarnate second time? my sage is now at 2722827 Hp... i could have done little math about that but i was sadly to stupid to write down about the first reincarnation, but i had the thought cross my mind...but i thought it was going to be a cake and i would go up to 10000 lv bar....spo that's why i was so coky about not writing it down...but since i'm still at 9999 it was a stupid move, i know :) Extra details: I've Lv 900 staticians on the sage, and she has a weapon with 6-8 bars and revenge booster on, aswell as cheat shop at 996, only to get the other things something...
+Lumina Lucius Why are you focusing on HP? Of all the stats in the game I would consider it the least useful.
Cause it's easier to keep track of when to reincarnate if you've forgotten/did'nt knew it was going to stop at 9999 in the first way. I've never done the wait til you're at that lv before reincarnatin i've done it earlier in other disgaea games, so therefore i'm concerned when one should reincarante 2 time.
Admiral Vic i used to reincarnate at lv 500-999 then you can kinda multiply easier
ive just picked up this game and am struggling with story mode and tips
unlock DLC characters they are OP
Nice.
Wait, how is your game in English?
+Furyhunter Just is?
+Admiral Vic Even though the game (NA release) just came out, like yesterday.
+Sodisna Correct.
+Admiral Vic Yet the video's publish date is August 25th. Unless you got some sort of reviewers copy.
+Sodisna "Unless you got some sort of reviewers copy."
Also correct. I really don't understand why people hassle me over Disgaea 5, but didn't hassle me over Neptunia 1/2/V/Mugen Souls/Splatoon or a number of games I uploaded before release.
not even standing on the 100% xp space lol
+Ben Schwarz you don't have to stand on it, THEY have to stand on it.
made that mistake like literally since i started disgaea until like a few weeks ago XD