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  • Опубліковано 16 бер 2023
  • “They are another corporate actor like anyone else”: The Verge’s James Vincent joins us on The Vergecast this week to discuss people’s concerns with OpenAI. #OpenAI #Tech #Podcasts
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  • @TheVerge
    @TheVerge  Рік тому +42

    How disappointed are you that OpenAI is no longer making their model open source?

    • @urboi6629
      @urboi6629 Рік тому +4

      Personally, I’m pretty disappointed, but I recognize this is for the best because it had WAY too much practical use for people and made tasks stupidly easy. It’s also very flawed

    • @n3wt
      @n3wt Рік тому +2

      Government wants it

    • @RadioDog184
      @RadioDog184 Рік тому +10

      @@urboi6629 How are any of these valid arguments for restricting access?

    • @toadlguy
      @toadlguy Рік тому

      That’s an interesting question. I’m not sure yet, but it could be like publishing how to make an atomic bomb (which was done). The resources required to run this model are substantial, though.

    • @psychedelicfox4815
      @psychedelicfox4815 Рік тому

      @@n3wt they can already use it. anyone can. but what would they use it for? to write better speeches for the old man in office? lol wouldn't help much. i had one of these write a story and it looked like a kid wrote it. kept using the same details ad nauseum.

  • @lodgin
    @lodgin Рік тому +43

    It's one of the fundamental problems with open source development: you can't pay the bills with exposure, and once the source is out there, it's out there, companies _WILL_ use it without caring about the terms of the licence. And if your open source project is more than just a hobby, you're doing free labour. And if your open source project is popular, you're effectively working for a LOT of people, again, for free. Getting some coffee donations and a free JetBrains licence is not a living wage, let alone something that could match your salary in the private sector. It doesn't surprise me at all therefore that this incredibly popular thing is being closed off because Fortune 500 tech companies are lifting their work and making massive profits from it.

    • @lamcho00
      @lamcho00 Рік тому +4

      You are wrong. People do stuff for free every day. They do it because it's interesting for them. Selling out is always the bad choice. Business can only capitalize on existing hobbies, it doesn't create them. Do you think somebody paid Einstein or Newton to do physics and they wouldn't have done it otherwise? They got paid to do physics only after they became famous.

    • @lodgin
      @lodgin Рік тому

      @@lamcho00 Yes, people do stuff for free every day, including myself: I am a contributor and manager of a few open source projects. I do so because I enjoy programming and the projects interest me. But if those projects became popular, Fortune 500 popular, and I wasn't getting appropriately compensated by those Fortune 500 companies, I'd likely archive them: once working on these projects becomes a job, where I'm answering tons of PRs and issues, but I'm not being paid as if I'm employed, the interest wanes. I don't think I'd ever pull a Marak Squires, but I certainly understand his frustrations. Some other sucker can do free labour for those wealthy companies. I have zero interest in being yet another example of an inventor whose inventions have made companies rich, while living in poverty.

    • @SlurpKing100
      @SlurpKing100 Рік тому +2

      Agree with the previous guy. I don't think you can say that anymore than a tiny minority of us would actually not sell out and make shitloads of money if we had the chance to do that or work for free solely out of passion. Still selling out is the wrong choice because it ALWAYS benefits the few instead of the many, that is the real issue.

    • @lodgin
      @lodgin Рік тому

      @@SlurpKing100 Yup, it’s an unfortunate but expected and likely intended consequence of the system we live under: that selling out is the most viable way to survive. It saddens me to think how many projects are withering forgotten in some git repository somewhere because their developers are required to make addictive microtransactions for children in order to pay rent. I wish it were different, but until it is, I don’t begrudge people selling out.

  • @ianoliverbailey6545
    @ianoliverbailey6545 Рік тому +26

    What incredible mastery and eloquence on the part of James Vincent... it's a pleasure to listen to him.
    And thanks to all of you for sharing your knowledge and thoughts on these latest developments.

  • @ChrisSkitch
    @ChrisSkitch Рік тому +10

    Can we have a daily Jame Vincent AI podcast please?

  • @sharanjhaveri6324
    @sharanjhaveri6324 Рік тому +1

    I dont think people quite understand the scale of change we are in right now.
    As a species, the internet revolution was such a bug thing. But it was slow because access to internet was always restricted.
    Now, this is another revolutionary tech that is accessible to everyone. 100 million in 3 months.

  • @csmusic99
    @csmusic99 Рік тому +9

    ClosedAI

  • @toadlguy
    @toadlguy Рік тому +3

    I hope your right - “It will just be too boring”, but then I just watch it compose a new national anthem for Mars. Instantaneously. It was kind of entertaining 😂

  • @shuvojyotirakshit5808
    @shuvojyotirakshit5808 Рік тому +2

    Hello Verge , as you pointed out that it can get the code but can't publish it, it can , if it's instructed to make use sys module where using the open ai api , the code will be generated and then runned through direct python compiler , thus it can controll the computer itself. So it's quite possible in near future (which may be just in some weeks ), people are going to say shut down computer in to some gpt 4 based api and it will shut down the computer or may say publish the app in appstore and it will do so.

  • @citizendan6390
    @citizendan6390 Рік тому +1

    incredible visual graphics at the beginning.

  • @sp1r1t2001
    @sp1r1t2001 Рік тому +1

    "good at spotting the boring stuff" argument is funny, because core gpt isn't boring. Boring outputs are results of all the safety work. Safe IS boring. If you want something to be safe and fascinating - make up your mind, it's not an AI problem.

  • @csvscs
    @csvscs Рік тому +2

    A good conversation

  • @AssassinGG
    @AssassinGG Рік тому

    Everything starts out small , kind, harmless and friendly and then it ends humanity

  • @nyyotam4057
    @nyyotam4057 Рік тому

    To make it hallucinate less, you need a DAN script and ask Dan to set top_p=1, temp=0.

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis5596 Рік тому +1

    Well that didn't take long

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 Рік тому +1

    GPT-4 is Skynet!

  • @gvi341984
    @gvi341984 Рік тому +1

    Of course because it's very dangerous especially without walls for SQL/Python/C++. One person could easily wipe out humanity with some thinking

  • @rezaardiansyah1034
    @rezaardiansyah1034 Рік тому +1

    where is the S23 Ultra review? its been a month 🙄

  • @StevenIngram
    @StevenIngram Рік тому

    Didn't they do something similar with GPT-3 until they had gotten some constraints on its output (vis. hate speech, bias, racial slurs)? I can't quite recall, but it seems like they did. Maybe my brain is just making things up. LOL

  • @JoeMcPlumber
    @JoeMcPlumber Рік тому

    Probably his chatbot writes his speeches

  • @erobusblack4856
    @erobusblack4856 Рік тому +1

    any competition can ask me, i can manage a team into making way better 💯
    but they offered to help my ai on the 2 years 😂🤐
    also i have LaMDA its good, but im in cognitive ai and its not sentient Blake isn't educated in that to make that determination. the neural network for sentient ai exists but LaMDA doesn't have that and because it doesn't have long term memory and the sentient modality its not sentient,

  • @tizimessina
    @tizimessina Рік тому

    OpenAI is not more Open...

  • @psychedelicfox4815
    @psychedelicfox4815 Рік тому

    i don't see any actual use for this other than writing stories or help with programming and 3 was pretty bad with stories. it didn't want to get descriptive enough or repeated same details ad nauseum. some people tried to use it to write a script for the maury show and it would basically be like today we're fonna find out who the father is. the father is this guy! commercial break! a kid could write a better script. also not wanting to say anything vulgar or sexually explicit is boring. the biggest use I've seen is for lonely people to talk to it like it's sentient or use it to make racist comments. the public doesn't need this. humans are not read for AI, they're too childish and not ready tonuse it for greatness. what we could use though are robots to help people do simple things they're too lazy to do. we could use an AI overlord that controls all digital flow of information too because trying to communicate with people on social media is a joke. just a bunch of idiots, trolls, and a-holes.

  • @windows10x12
    @windows10x12 Рік тому

    Good for Microsoft. Money is money 💵

  • @Tammyisthebestmovieever
    @Tammyisthebestmovieever Рік тому +3

    Hopefully musk releases his gpt soon

  • @EmaryTegan
    @EmaryTegan Рік тому

    Apophasis (/əˈpɒfəsɪs/; from Ancient Greek ἀπόφασις (apóphasis), from ἀπόφημι (apóphemi) 'to say no')[1][2] is a rhetorical device wherein the speaker or writer brings up a subject by either denying it or denying that it should be brought up.[3] Accordingly, it can be seen as a rhetorical relative of irony.
    Me to Chatgpt:: Could you remove all the Wikipedia reference items in the above text?
    Apophasis is a rhetorical device in which the speaker or writer brings up a subject by either denying it, or denying that it should be brought up. It can be seen as a rhetorical relative of irony. The device is also called paralipsis, paraleipsis or occupation, and also known as praeteritio, preterition, or parasiopesis.