15:27 eh I doubt Erimises is going to be the raid boss, consider how front and center she is to the promotion combined with Bungie trend for expansions it's safe to say she's gonna meet her end in the story campaign. But I imagine similar to say Forsaken the raid and it's final threat will have some kind of link to the main events of the dlc.
@@elitegamer9310 I myself been musing Variks might be the raid boss, we know from lore pages he staged the prison escape so he could snag some ether and run off to become a Kell. So I can see the main story culminate in Erimises death and Variks stepping into the power vacuum to control the new Fallen "empire" and set out for the Deepstone Crypt to find the edge his people need to survive.
the Times have changed. for all of 'us'. would've commemorate as well here.... Until hearing about the other Side on which the one is now Drifting on. [frowns while looking around being surrounded by such....masks (Lore-wise)]
The Dungeon is really cool. Been running it every week now. The 9 are very mysterious so it will be cool to discover more about them as we move forward.
This....(11:43) is what it Needs to be shout out. impressed at last....for quite a while it seems. [still frowning on guard looking around] even if it Lasted for a few Seconds after (12:30).
As long as Destiny doesn't have a dialogue system, nah honestly never cared much about the fact our guardian doesn't talk, well not officially. As a long term pen and paper rpg player I have a lot of experience using my imagination to craft head canon.
God damn I'm early. And I thought the question we asked was "what would happen if we ate mushrooms grown in blighted soil and sun dried with solar light?". Because that's the kinda trip that dungeon is 😂😂
But what about the phalanx or centurion echoes? Maybe the centurion echoes don't mean anything but that phalanx echo looks very unique. The shoulder ornaments look like blood guard ornaments and it also dawns a cape. Could that be calus's daughter? The new leader of the red legion?
I think the Phalanx Echo and the Centurion Echo represent Ciatal and Calus. The Phalanx Echo is obviously a Taken Red Legion Phalanx, we've seen them before in Lake of Shadows and Gambit Prime. The Centurion Echo could be Calus because the Loyalists Centurions are the OG design for them, just like the Echo. As for the Knight Echoes, this sounds like a stretch, but what if they represent Savathûn? Like how in all these different conflicts and events, she pulls the strings behind them.
@@elitegamer9310 would make sense due to her always being in the shadows a small threat we usually brush off but is actually much larger. Or it could be symbolizing the hive themselves. How they have played a role in all of our woes somehow whether it be large or small
Examples. Destiny vanilla the hive were attempting to create a leader to assault the earth kinda small in the grand scheme but still. Dark below thry ressurexted crore. Big in the grand scale. House of wolves. We interacted with the hive cults in the prison of elders. Very small but I think they were calling out to one if the hive gods most likely Oryx. Taken king the hive came in with a fleet wipong out the awoken fleet and having there most powerful god leave a sickness in the system we still haven't cleansed and most likely will never cleanse. Rise of iron thru didn't really get a big role but thry were manipulated by the splicers so I guess that kinda counts.
Now d2 vanilla. Savathuns brood (I think ) have pretty much full control of titan where they are doing all there dark shit. Along with summoning one of savathuns shreikers to do. Something. Curse of osiris. The vex are studying them. Probavly the least important in d2 bit still. Warmind. Nokris and xols brood awaken in the ice caps to most likely seek help from savathun. Tbh I didn't really get a plan from them except that probably the most lost we've seen the hive imo. Forsaken survivors of oryxs fleet have a hold on a large part of the tangled shore even attempting to have more hive spawn through is anuhn and hiraks while in the dreaming city savathun created a way to gain in power without doing anything. Not counting black armory but season pf the drifter we head into the drifter haul where there aren't just taken. But also hive. Did the 8 just make them or does savathun have a foothold in the nines realms? (Sorry if I'm wrong about that one I just never got how thete were hive also in there) opulence. Calus has us kill gahlran who was being manipulated by savathun and attempting to take over the leviathan. I'm not sure but it kinda seemed like gahlran made a type of throne world. Shadowkeep. The hidden swarm built the scarlet keep over top a pyramid Crotas daughter's seemed more power. (Also sorry if I didn't get everything right there) season of dawn and worthy nothing .much whole arrivals savathun is being a blocker go us finding out what the darkness wants. So in conclusion. The hive will always be a part of our story. Whether big or small. Thry will always be a thorn in our journey thst can lead to new truths. I think that's what the knight echo means in prophecy.
Ah....but that is the beauty of bungie (if their pre-[beyond Light] views is still in effect) working on with the [O] (15:40) and the final step to that surprise Counter. Perhaps now being down after the so-called....'[Lightfall]'. Sadly, it seems less of whosoever 'we' are now here and beyond here can see that path ahead. For now, all 'I' hear are the Veiled-players. Constantly echoing and mimicking what the lower Western resident and others like that one's position is devotingly....getting farther from still sticking to the Original goal of the Destiny series. [sighed more at peace this time] hopefully that stays that way in the story, even if many like this video's end line would say otherwise (no offense Wallen but we just have to leave such a message like this one here to be able to be picked up slowly). 'we' shall see then which is the End story for either of the [Two]'s [influences]. or as an added 'bonus': a 3rd ending is for the Grays then.
16 minutes of saying different variations of “we need to go BEYOND LIGHT if we want to survive the next collapse” really thought you had some new insight not already covered. Especially in terms of the visual story telling in the dungeon.
Sir Wallen I suppose I shouldn’t expect you to draw something out of nothing. Especially if there isn’t anything deeper than what’s at the surface. Raidsecrets is full of tin foil theories right now and I don’t want to encourage baseless speculation. I guess six years of threadbare story telling has me yearning for anything that will unveil even a little bit at the true nature of the darkness and the traveler.
@@suprflcn Trust me I'm right there with you, and i used to funnel alot of this energy in my earlier videos. Now I just try to walk a fine line of giving you the basis and maybe injecting some of my own commentary around it. Regardless its good feedback to add more substance in these videos, as opposed to just the raw facts.
Pay attention Guardians ! Sir Wallen is back, and he's a Lore OG !
Lol, thank you brother, more to come each Wednesday and Sunday!
I agree, when D1 lore was just grimiore cards his passion and delivery of the stories inspired the lore masters of today..✊🏿👍🏿✌🏾
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Love your perspective and scholarly take on things. You my #1 lore dude and am grateful to have you back as well.
Good to have you back.
It's great to be back, more to come!
Finally got around to watching this. Oh man, I need to get around to grinding up for the Dungeon.
Beyond Light can't come fast enough.
You will get here, its for sure worth doing.
15:27 eh I doubt Erimises is going to be the raid boss, consider how front and center she is to the promotion combined with Bungie trend for expansions it's safe to say she's gonna meet her end in the story campaign.
But I imagine similar to say Forsaken the raid and it's final threat will have some kind of link to the main events of the dlc.
Imagine if it's Variks, or some other, unforeseen threat.
Be great to see it finalize in a dungeon of some kind or capacity, but you might very well be right.
@@elitegamer9310 I myself been musing Variks might be the raid boss, we know from lore pages he staged the prison escape so he could snag some ether and run off to become a Kell.
So I can see the main story culminate in Erimises death and Variks stepping into the power vacuum to control the new Fallen "empire" and set out for the Deepstone Crypt to find the edge his people need to survive.
Probably something to do with the pyramid that was shown in the end of the trailer buried in the ice.
@@jamesroberts5163 if ya talking about the raid that be a intresting shift since we know the raid takes place in the Deepstone Crypt.
Glad you're making more content. Your videos were top tier in the D1 days.
Exactly
Thank you brother, more to come each Sunday and Wednesday!
the Times have changed. for all of 'us'.
would've commemorate as well here....
Until hearing about the other Side on which the one is now Drifting on. [frowns while looking around being surrounded by such....masks (Lore-wise)]
WALLEN. LOve the videos. Keep these and Cyberpunk flowing!!!!
More to come, not a problem!
Love em all, keep em coming!
More to come!
As good as the message the nine are trying to send us is, I still don't have an Ikelos Hand Cannon
I think they are doing you a favor. You don't want it.
@@SirWallen Eh, it can spawn warmind cells. That's enough for me
The Dungeon is really cool. Been running it every week now. The 9 are very mysterious so it will be cool to discover more about them as we move forward.
Absolutely with you there, I'm curious to see where there story goes from here.
This....(11:43) is what it Needs to be shout out. impressed at last....for quite a while it seems. [still frowning on guard looking around]
even if it Lasted for a few Seconds after (12:30).
Hell ya.
Am I the only one bothered that our ghost does all the talking for us?
As long as Destiny doesn't have a dialogue system, nah honestly never cared much about the fact our guardian doesn't talk, well not officially.
As a long term pen and paper rpg player I have a lot of experience using my imagination to craft head canon.
@@Awoken_Remmuz our character talks when they truly need to. When ever they do. It always feels special
Absolutely, be great to hear our character talk more.
God damn I'm early. And I thought the question we asked was "what would happen if we ate mushrooms grown in blighted soil and sun dried with solar light?". Because that's the kinda trip that dungeon is 😂😂
Yes, its an absolute trip, I agree with you.
I can't put my finger on it but I'm starting to believe the collapse/Traveler's fight with the Darkness didn't happen the way we think..
I think you may be very very right!
But what about the phalanx or centurion echoes? Maybe the centurion echoes don't mean anything but that phalanx echo looks very unique. The shoulder ornaments look like blood guard ornaments and it also dawns a cape. Could that be calus's daughter? The new leader of the red legion?
I think the Phalanx Echo and the Centurion Echo represent Ciatal and Calus. The Phalanx Echo is obviously a Taken Red Legion Phalanx, we've seen them before in Lake of Shadows and Gambit Prime. The Centurion Echo could be Calus because the Loyalists Centurions are the OG design for them, just like the Echo. As for the Knight Echoes, this sounds like a stretch, but what if they represent Savathûn? Like how in all these different conflicts and events, she pulls the strings behind them.
I'd agree with the above, it's either to represent the current threat of the Cabal, so Calus and his daughter, or the past fights with the Cabal.
@@elitegamer9310 would make sense due to her always being in the shadows a small threat we usually brush off but is actually much larger. Or it could be symbolizing the hive themselves. How they have played a role in all of our woes somehow whether it be large or small
Examples. Destiny vanilla the hive were attempting to create a leader to assault the earth kinda small in the grand scheme but still. Dark below thry ressurexted crore. Big in the grand scale. House of wolves. We interacted with the hive cults in the prison of elders. Very small but I think they were calling out to one if the hive gods most likely Oryx. Taken king the hive came in with a fleet wipong out the awoken fleet and having there most powerful god leave a sickness in the system we still haven't cleansed and most likely will never cleanse. Rise of iron thru didn't really get a big role but thry were manipulated by the splicers so I guess that kinda counts.
Now d2 vanilla. Savathuns brood (I think ) have pretty much full control of titan where they are doing all there dark shit. Along with summoning one of savathuns shreikers to do. Something. Curse of osiris. The vex are studying them. Probavly the least important in d2 bit still. Warmind. Nokris and xols brood awaken in the ice caps to most likely seek help from savathun. Tbh I didn't really get a plan from them except that probably the most lost we've seen the hive imo. Forsaken survivors of oryxs fleet have a hold on a large part of the tangled shore even attempting to have more hive spawn through is anuhn and hiraks while in the dreaming city savathun created a way to gain in power without doing anything. Not counting black armory but season pf the drifter we head into the drifter haul where there aren't just taken. But also hive. Did the 8 just make them or does savathun have a foothold in the nines realms? (Sorry if I'm wrong about that one I just never got how thete were hive also in there) opulence. Calus has us kill gahlran who was being manipulated by savathun and attempting to take over the leviathan. I'm not sure but it kinda seemed like gahlran made a type of throne world. Shadowkeep. The hidden swarm built the scarlet keep over top a pyramid Crotas daughter's seemed more power. (Also sorry if I didn't get everything right there) season of dawn and worthy nothing .much whole arrivals savathun is being a blocker go us finding out what the darkness wants. So in conclusion. The hive will always be a part of our story. Whether big or small. Thry will always be a thorn in our journey thst can lead to new truths. I think that's what the knight echo means in prophecy.
I've been looking forward to this
Thank you for sticking around!
Awesome!
Thank you sir!
I have never been so earlyyyy
Well thank you for the support!
Ah....but that is the beauty of bungie (if their pre-[beyond Light] views is still in effect) working on with the [O] (15:40) and the final step to that surprise Counter. Perhaps now being down after the so-called....'[Lightfall]'.
Sadly, it seems less of whosoever 'we' are now here and beyond here can see that path ahead. For now, all 'I' hear are the Veiled-players. Constantly echoing and mimicking what the lower Western resident and others like that one's position is devotingly....getting farther from still sticking to the Original goal of the Destiny series. [sighed more at peace this time]
hopefully that stays that way in the story, even if many like this video's end line would say otherwise (no offense Wallen but we just have to leave such a message like this one here to be able to be picked up slowly).
'we' shall see then which is the End story for either of the [Two]'s [influences]. or as an added 'bonus': a 3rd ending is for the Grays then.
16 minutes of saying different variations of “we need to go BEYOND LIGHT if we want to survive the next collapse” really thought you had some new insight not already covered. Especially in terms of the visual story telling in the dungeon.
Thats a fair criticism of the video. Its difficult to pull a deeper narrative beyond making assumptions of what the dungeon is attemtping to show us.
Sir Wallen I suppose I shouldn’t expect you to draw something out of nothing. Especially if there isn’t anything deeper than what’s at the surface. Raidsecrets is full of tin foil theories right now and I don’t want to encourage baseless speculation. I guess six years of threadbare story telling has me yearning for anything that will unveil even a little bit at the true nature of the darkness and the traveler.
@@suprflcn Trust me I'm right there with you, and i used to funnel alot of this energy in my earlier videos. Now I just try to walk a fine line of giving you the basis and maybe injecting some of my own commentary around it.
Regardless its good feedback to add more substance in these videos, as opposed to just the raw facts.
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