Hey guys! Just wanted to welcome all of the new subscribers, thanks for joining the community! I have a lot of ideas about new videos I want to put out in the future. I'm getting married very soon and moving across the country so I don't have the time to create content at the moment...but I'm excited about new videos in the future!!
Brittainy Surratt I can’t believe how late I get to your life It’s always the same thing with me always late always late I was supposed to ask you to marry me 😬
good video, great for those who are still learning live sound, however, having done live sound for over 15 years in all kinds of venues I highly recommend cutting frequencies before you boost, you'll be surprised just how much cutting between 250 - 450Hz (doesn't have to be a huge cut or necessarily a wide Q) will emphasize the top end for your beater attack and tighten up the sub thump, if you find that they are still lacking then add a little top and low end while the band are playing as a whole just to bring out a bit of definition, don't forget too that by adding frequencies, you're adding gain which can be a real issue for overloading power-amps. This video however is a superb teaching tool for studio mixing too, thanks for taking the time to produce the content :)
+1 for Tobi. That's what I've always done too. I'm getting back to sound engineering after a long layoff. Always used analog before, so this is a great teaching video for me learning digital.
Thank you so much for posting this! It's a delight to hear a feminine voice talking about mixing. I appreciate knowing that I'm not alone in my interests.
i was really trying to stay away from watching a 26 min video. but im glad i did. this has opened out a lot of options and i can see how things are getting done. thanks
Thank you so much for this video! We are starting from scratch and don't have any experience with digital mixing, although we are greatly enjoying what we're learning. This lines up with what I learned in audio class, as far as having a clean sound. Your confirmation of that and the comments that I've read are appreciated confirmation. God Bless!!
In live sound I’ve found that subtractive EQ works best. Especially in small rooms where feedback is a huge issue, but you still need massive amounts of volume for the vocals to get over the drums, bass and guitars. But, I tend to mix for metal bands in tight places. For other styles of music I mix in a much larger space and additive EQ has its place, as well. I also like to create little sonic zones for each instrument. I’ll slightly change the EQ between 2 guitars to help enhance their differences. Same for drums, just as you show here. They need to “live” in their own “house” to be understood best by the brain. And the less processing our brain needs to do to understand the sound, the less fatiguing the experience is. I also keep the gains as low as possible to keep other parts of the kit out. Bleed is the bane of live sound! Good video! Thanks for sharing!
"In live sound I’ve found that subtractive EQ works best." Digital mixers and EQs are different. I had opportunity to work with the new digital console and wondered, how I can insert the enhancer, because we had a violin and I didn't want the sound of a tiny cello. But I tried EQ and noticed, that this EQ is willing, very willing. Beside this, digital EQs tend to make wrong settings sounds more bad, than on analog equipment. But when you know, what to do... In the case of the violin, I set the low cut about 800 Hz, boosted the treble and set the monitor level lower, because it's better audible. Had no feedback. Added some echo (this is in pop music not unusual) and it was a great sound. Additional you have some enhancers in the effect section. Could be a helpful tool, if you have bad sounding recordings, in the worst case you could make speech better audible, in the best it sounds better.
I am learning in mixing live sound and this video really explained a lot to me. I am not using the x32 but the tf3 series but I like the explanation you went thru. Dj Flex 💪🏽 from mundo de Dj Flex 💪🏽 subscribed and following your channel! Great job
Hi Brittainy !!, it takes a lot of courage to post a video like this !! subject to criticism of everyone some with sound knowledge, others Enginers,even some curious, the main goal is to make the most of what you get, (sound gear). i think you did a good job for this circunstances.
Congrats & Best wishes u two ! Definitely wanna see more ! [specialy how you managed to have no hi-hat bleed on that snare top lol] Just a thought, if you could show how you would "process" all the channels to achieve certain specific drum sounds. Like let's say : - The iconic 80s Hard Rock/Metal "Maxi PHAT" Snare sound, etc. (One reference that comes to mind would be : Master Of Puppets - Live 89') - Do you put Reverb on the whole "drum subgroup" or on some single channels here & there, that kind of stuff. Just throwing some ideas...
I think As for me i rarely boost when it comes to Live music cos sometimes depend on the venue feedback can be a real issue, we need to be very carefull without gate and compressor...anyway great vid really appreciated .👍💕💕
In case of overheads I would set low cut so high, that the cymbals keeps sounding natural and maybe boost high frequencies, the EQ is willing to do settings, where analog EQs would have too much unwanted side effects.
I like the way your work flows and your mind works. The Q is a wee bit sharp for me on some of your boosts in the high freq areas. I locate and cut with tight Q but use wide Q to boost areas with things I want. It sounds more natural. Which is needed with digital system. On saying all this, I like the EQ on the X32 and the controls. The lay out lets you move quickly and it feels more intuitive to roam around. Love this video. I’m subbed.....
A fine workflow, but the amount of boost and narrowness of Q on those boosts are a bit extreme. Really easy to hear the peaked filters. Generally, it's good advice to boost a bit wider than that, and generally make cuts narrower.
yep, especially in the hi boosts, things sound phasey when the Q is too narrow. Also, I would have choosen higher frequencies for the beater/sticks sound usually.
I feel the same way. When boosting, a narrow Q can get a bit weird. You can hear the peakiness even with lower gain settings. Great for effect and for finding the problem or key frequency, but not very good for having an ideally musical sound. Wider Q settings tend to be more musical. Narrow Q's are more suited for cutting or feedback abatement. The narrow Q isn't as noticeable when you are cutting the frequency. Otherwise, I feel her approach is very textbook.
I'm glad to see you are on your way and using your ears. If I might make a couple suggestions... You've already been bombarded with the cut don't boost argument by many so I won't hit on that too much. In most situations, that concept will yield better results with less feedback when you're actually Eqing through a pa. Second, when you boost, best practice is boosting wider because when you boost like you do (notch boosting) you are bringing up a small frequency range and whistling starts to happen in those frequencies like in your kick example. Third, you have 100% available. If you let your kick take the sub lowend then the bass will be fighting it down there forcing you to high pass the bass higher so there is no conflict or re eq your kick. Think of frequency ranges as a puzzle you're fitting together. Without any conflicting instruments playing as well, you can't really tell how you should eq. For example guitars, vocals and snare all live in similar ranges. Same with kick and bass. Unless this is only a 1 drummer band, I personally would have made the video title quick eq for a line check. I hope these pointers help you. Keep it up. You're doing great. It takes years to develop professional ears. You got this!
Hello ! Greetings from Mexico!!! Excellent video and well explained for those of us who don't know much about EQ. It would be great if you could make similar EQ , Bass guitar, Guitar , Keyboards, lead vocals, choirs, etc!! Excellent video and much success!!
I'm from Indonesia, thank you teacher for the knowledge you have taught me, I really like it. I got additional lessons from the teacher, this was very useful for me.
Great simple video! Although I don't know if you'd get away with boosting so much of the lower frequencies in a full band setting with the bass guitar and all... Looking at an X32 for the company but can't decide if we should get a Midas M32 instead with the future in mind
Wonderful video! I was quite shocked however to see you boost so aggressively, one of my main rules of live mixing is to equalize using cuts rather than boosts, and if I do choose to boost any frequencies, I try to take narrower but wider boosts. Mixing is an art and every engineer does things a little differently, the end result is great though!
Love the tone of these drums! I'd bet they sounded awesome in the room -- what kit was it? One thing I noticed was a phase issue between the snare and overheads when you blended them @ 24:45 -- seems like the fundamental of the snare went away
That was an awesome video! I watched SO many EQ videos over the last couple of months and I was always curious to know the exact frequencies. But to my surprise your video was very eye-opening. Just find the fundamental and the stick sound and cut something in the middle :-) straight forward 👍
Hi @Brittainy, We use the same board at my church and i've been trying to find out how to do a virtual sound check. Can you help me with what steps are needed? Thank you,
I had an idea of using an analog mixer to hv all the drum mics plugged in and then send lerft and right to my digital console, in such a case how would I EQ the drum on the main mixer??!!! thnx
I must say, hearing a girl voice talking calmly and confidently about frequencies was very soothing to my ears. Wish there were more female engineers! About eq, I always cut, except the sweetness I like which I might boost a tiny bit, with high Q, though my drum eq depends on what else is there... Drums might sound great on their own, but once the rest of the band comes in, a second look at what you got is needed... so that everyone gets their piece of eq cake, without overlapping each other. If the room is smaller, half of this is probably not even necessary, but love the vid!
I think you did such a good job on the snare top that you didn't find much use for the bottom. I'm kinda the same way in preference that I don't use much snare bottom. Awesome job Chick.
I think, it depends to the music style. When the drummer does marching music, Dixieland, Old Times Swing, the bottom sound is more important, because the snare drum was a SNARE drum. In Rock the bottom may add some brilliance only.
Usually, we apply for indiviudal drums noise gates, to turn down crosstalk. Usually we need noisegates, that reacts for a specific frequency range only, to prevent, that the bass drum opens the snare microphone or the snare opens the Hi Hat mike. How do you do it, for the X32's gates doesn't allow to change the control signal?
Rob F They do. There’s a key filter option for different parts of the frequency spectrum, as well as different detection shapes and even what channel to take the key from
hiii nice video.. i use this mixer x32.. but i want to try another console like a SQ and. TF.. bcause this technic is very easy to use..so this method/ technic eqing the instrument can be apply at another console/ mixer like aq SQ& TF..??
Hi, can u give us tips for the range frequency for each instrument? Like for bass it s on a range 60-80 maybe, and each part of drum , and other instrument, thanks!!
I don’t know if it is personal preference, I like to start cutting things out first before I start boosting signal. It makes it more easier to cut things when no signal is boosted idk but that’s just me.
Hello, excellent thanks for the input is very helpful. It is possible to share the audio for us to practice with that excellent recording. Thanks for sharing!!
Nice mix. I have a different view though. Just thinking how the drums especially the side tom would blend with the bass and also when reverb are in place. I think some instances would require a much wider Q. Snare top and bottom seems not to have phase issues. Has audios been already treated in a DAW before routing to the console channels?. My thoughts anyway. Good one
Hey guys! Just wanted to welcome all of the new subscribers, thanks for joining the community! I have a lot of ideas about new videos I want to put out in the future. I'm getting married very soon and moving across the country so I don't have the time to create content at the moment...but I'm excited about new videos in the future!!
Brittainy Surratt
I can’t believe how late I get to your life It’s always the same thing with me always late always late I was supposed to ask you to marry me 😬
Nice job i will use this as a training video for my volunteers Thanks keep up the great work
Congrats
Congratulations!
congratulations Brittany reed
good video, great for those who are still learning live sound, however, having done live sound for over 15 years in all kinds of venues I highly recommend cutting frequencies before you boost, you'll be surprised just how much cutting between 250 - 450Hz (doesn't have to be a huge cut or necessarily a wide Q) will emphasize the top end for your beater attack and tighten up the sub thump, if you find that they are still lacking then add a little top and low end while the band are playing as a whole just to bring out a bit of definition, don't forget too that by adding frequencies, you're adding gain which can be a real issue for overloading power-amps. This video however is a superb teaching tool for studio mixing too, thanks for taking the time to produce the content :)
This Video is really great and the above comment is very helpful aswell,so thanks a Lot!
+1 for Tobi. That's what I've always done too. I'm getting back to sound engineering after a long layoff. Always used analog before, so this is a great teaching video for me learning digital.
When you mean cut you mean the low cut filter?
@@mauricioc1860 not in this context, just a reduction at specific bandwidths: "dipping" or "trenching" 😀
Thank you so much for posting this! It's a delight to hear a feminine voice talking about mixing. I appreciate knowing that I'm not alone in my interests.
i was really trying to stay away from watching a 26 min video. but im glad i did. this has opened out a lot of options and i can see how things are getting done. thanks
hey Brittainy - this vid showed up in my suggestions and I was like "hey, I've worked with her before!" This is fabulous.
Thank you so much for this video! We are starting from scratch and don't have any experience with digital mixing, although we are greatly enjoying what we're learning. This lines up with what I learned in audio class, as far as having a clean sound. Your confirmation of that and the comments that I've read are appreciated confirmation. God Bless!!
In live sound I’ve found that subtractive EQ works best. Especially in small rooms where feedback is a huge issue, but you still need massive amounts of volume for the vocals to get over the drums, bass and guitars. But, I tend to mix for metal bands in tight places. For other styles of music I mix in a much larger space and additive EQ has its place, as well.
I also like to create little sonic zones for each instrument. I’ll slightly change the EQ between 2 guitars to help enhance their differences. Same for drums, just as you show here. They need to “live” in their own “house” to be understood best by the brain. And the less processing our brain needs to do to understand the sound, the less fatiguing the experience is.
I also keep the gains as low as possible to keep other parts of the kit out. Bleed is the bane of live sound!
Good video! Thanks for sharing!
"In live sound I’ve found that subtractive EQ works best."
Digital mixers and EQs are different. I had opportunity to work with the new digital console and wondered, how I can insert the enhancer, because we had a violin and I didn't want the sound of a tiny cello. But I tried EQ and noticed, that this EQ is willing, very willing. Beside this, digital EQs tend to make wrong settings sounds more bad, than on analog equipment. But when you know, what to do...
In the case of the violin, I set the low cut about 800 Hz, boosted the treble and set the monitor level lower, because it's better audible. Had no feedback. Added some echo (this is in pop music not unusual) and it was a great sound.
Additional you have some enhancers in the effect section.
Could be a helpful tool, if you have bad sounding recordings, in the worst case you could make speech better audible, in the best it sounds better.
please can you show me how to do subtractive EQ
Wonderful video. Straight to the point. No extra BS talking. Great job!
Wish you had more content like this. I’m an old pro, rusty…and your video is a great walkthrough to workflow and process!
This is exactly what I've been needing. Thank you so much
You are awesome...!
That was very informative for us newbs... and i had no idea that the x32 could do all that!
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Congratulations!
Nice video. I'd honestly like to see your choice of 1. Drums, Cymbals, Mic selection, and Mic placement.
Cheers
I love this board, feature laden ! ya gotta feel that BD in your chest...great tutorial.
Love the x32 it is one of my favorite digital mixers.
I am learning in mixing live sound and this video really explained a lot to me. I am not using the x32 but the tf3 series but I like the explanation you went thru. Dj Flex 💪🏽 from mundo de Dj Flex 💪🏽 subscribed and following your channel! Great job
Hi Brittainy !!, it takes a lot of courage to post a video like this !! subject to criticism of everyone
some with sound knowledge, others Enginers,even some curious, the main goal is to make the most of what you get, (sound gear). i think you did a good job for this circunstances.
You earn a like right at the beginning, when you mixed the kick. I knew that what was coming would be good stuff. Congrats!
from a drummer point of view this video is great to understand what is happening at the console with the sound engineer.
Congrats & Best wishes u two ! Definitely wanna see more !
[specialy how you managed to have no hi-hat bleed on that snare top lol]
Just a thought, if you could show how you would "process" all the channels to achieve certain specific drum sounds.
Like let's say :
- The iconic 80s Hard Rock/Metal "Maxi PHAT" Snare sound, etc. (One reference that comes to mind would be : Master Of Puppets - Live 89')
- Do you put Reverb on the whole "drum subgroup" or on some single channels here & there, that kind of stuff.
Just throwing some ideas...
Firstly love this video and your style I wish you would make more hope you're still out there working great job and thanks
Thank you do you have anything on the Bass guitar, lead and Keys. Very well explained indeed
I think As for me i rarely boost when it comes to Live music cos sometimes depend on the venue feedback can be a real issue, we need to be very carefull without gate and compressor...anyway great vid really appreciated .👍💕💕
I had to come back here to say, Thank you so much. Best video
I liked it !! Though You didn't use compression, gate, nor room Fx on the mix in this video it sounded good to my ears.
In case of overheads I would set low cut so high, that the cymbals keeps sounding natural and maybe boost high frequencies, the EQ is willing to do settings, where analog EQs would have too much unwanted side effects.
would love to see more vids just like this but for compression, effects, volumes in the mix, even mic placement
Liked, saved, Subscribed. Accurate, articulate. Thank you 🙏
Such a great video. Thank you for taking the time to demonstrate this knowledge. I think I have learned more from this video than college degree! ha!
I like the way your work flows and your mind works.
The Q is a wee bit sharp for me on some of your boosts in the high freq areas.
I locate and cut with tight Q but use wide Q to boost areas with things I want. It sounds more natural.
Which is needed with digital system.
On saying all this, I like the EQ on the X32 and the controls.
The lay out lets you move quickly and it feels more intuitive to roam around.
Love this video. I’m subbed.....
A fine workflow, but the amount of boost and narrowness of Q on those boosts are a bit extreme. Really easy to hear the peaked filters. Generally, it's good advice to boost a bit wider than that, and generally make cuts narrower.
Did she invert the snare bottom mike?
Rob F Nope
@@robfriedrich2822 I think it already was in the recording
yep, especially in the hi boosts, things sound phasey when the Q is too narrow. Also, I would have choosen higher frequencies for the beater/sticks sound usually.
I feel the same way. When boosting, a narrow Q can get a bit weird. You can hear the peakiness even with lower gain settings. Great for effect and for finding the problem or key frequency, but not very good for having an ideally musical sound. Wider Q settings tend to be more musical. Narrow Q's are more suited for cutting or feedback abatement. The narrow Q isn't as noticeable when you are cutting the frequency. Otherwise, I feel her approach is very textbook.
Hi Brittainy. Good video! There are many ways of doing sound on drums - this is obvious a good one.
sound is good.... need to learn more...thanks ...
that is such a tight mix!! amazing!
this is the best video ever ! It helped me a lot. thank you so much !
Eqing!!.......excellent video!!....thank you!!!!...
Great Video! Learned a few things, can you make a video about mixing in live guitar?
I'm glad to see you are on your way and using your ears. If I might make a couple suggestions...
You've already been bombarded with the cut don't boost argument by many so I won't hit on that too much. In most situations, that concept will yield better results with less feedback when you're actually Eqing through a pa. Second, when you boost, best practice is boosting wider because when you boost like you do (notch boosting) you are bringing up a small frequency range and whistling starts to happen in those frequencies like in your kick example.
Third, you have 100% available. If you let your kick take the sub lowend then the bass will be fighting it down there forcing you to high pass the bass higher so there is no conflict or re eq your kick. Think of frequency ranges as a puzzle you're fitting together. Without any conflicting instruments playing as well, you can't really tell how you should eq. For example guitars, vocals and snare all live in similar ranges. Same with kick and bass. Unless this is only a 1 drummer band, I personally would have made the video title quick eq for a line check.
I hope these pointers help you. Keep it up. You're doing great. It takes years to develop professional ears. You got this!
Yep agreed about the super tight boosts, they almost all sounded whistley here, drove me nuts
Really interesting video. Also cool to see this mixer in action.
patiently well explained, thanks o/
A very tight and nice EQ! Lots of room for adding buttery FX and compression now =)
Hello ! Greetings from Mexico!!! Excellent video and well explained for those of us who don't know much about EQ. It would be great if you could make similar EQ , Bass guitar, Guitar , Keyboards, lead vocals, choirs, etc!! Excellent video and much success!!
Nice video with excellent results, very useful, thanks for sharing!
You had me at "I don't use much of it (hi-hat) in the mix"
Sincerely,
A Drummer.
This is incredible!
THAT WAS AWESOME, Thank you so much for that helpful video
Thanks for sharing. Learned some new stuff!
I'm from Indonesia, thank you teacher for the knowledge you have taught me, I really like it.
I got additional lessons from the teacher, this was very useful for me.
can you let us know what the boosts were in db's? thanks
Great simple video! Although I don't know if you'd get away with boosting so much of the lower frequencies in a full band setting with the bass guitar and all... Looking at an X32 for the company but can't decide if we should get a Midas M32 instead with the future in mind
This really is a wonderful video thank you.
Wow 3 good years I still love this video❤️
Wonderful video! I was quite shocked however to see you boost so aggressively, one of my main rules of live mixing is to equalize using cuts rather than boosts, and if I do choose to boost any frequencies, I try to take narrower but wider boosts. Mixing is an art and every engineer does things a little differently, the end result is great though!
Narrower but wider?
Parabéns, muito bom o vídeo.
Love the tone of these drums! I'd bet they sounded awesome in the room -- what kit was it? One thing I noticed was a phase issue between the snare and overheads when you blended them @ 24:45 -- seems like the fundamental of the snare went away
That was an awesome video! I watched SO many EQ videos over the last couple of months and I was always curious to know the exact frequencies. But to my surprise your video was very eye-opening. Just find the fundamental and the stick sound and cut something in the middle :-) straight forward 👍
Fantastic!
amazing work earned my sub well done!
Wow! Just wow! Thanks for making this!
Wow thanks for you lessons very nice i learn a lot 👍👍👂👂🥁🥁
Hi @Brittainy,
We use the same board at my church and i've been trying to find out how to do a virtual sound check.
Can you help me with what steps are needed?
Thank you,
That snare top sounds fine. Compress it a little, find the crack and you're golden. I could work with that.
About Hi Hat, I would try to use the EQ to boost the snare and bassdrum crosstalk and cut these frequencies.
I had an idea of using an analog mixer to hv all the drum mics plugged in and then send lerft and right to my digital console, in such a case how would I EQ the drum on the main mixer??!!! thnx
could you do some tutorials on Harmor and Massive?
I must say, hearing a girl voice talking calmly and confidently about frequencies was very soothing to my ears. Wish there were more female engineers! About eq, I always cut, except the sweetness I like which I might boost a tiny bit, with high Q, though my drum eq depends on what else is there... Drums might sound great on their own, but once the rest of the band comes in, a second look at what you got is needed... so that everyone gets their piece of eq cake, without overlapping each other. If the room is smaller, half of this is probably not even necessary, but love the vid!
It's amazing job, greetings Brittainy
Excellent tutorial! Do you plan on covering other instruments? Ex. Acoustic gtr, Lead gtr, Rhythm gtr, Bass, Piano, and Keyboard
Good video..i have a question.
Are u you using just one or two mic on miking a kick drum?
I think you did such a good job on the snare top that you didn't find much use for the bottom. I'm kinda the same way in preference that I don't use much snare bottom. Awesome job Chick.
I think, it depends to the music style. When the drummer does marching music, Dixieland, Old Times Swing, the bottom sound is more important, because the snare drum was a SNARE drum.
In Rock the bottom may add some brilliance only.
Usually, we apply for indiviudal drums noise gates, to turn down crosstalk. Usually we need noisegates, that reacts for a specific frequency range only, to prevent, that the bass drum opens the snare microphone or the snare opens the Hi Hat mike.
How do you do it, for the X32's gates doesn't allow to change the control signal?
Rob F They do. There’s a key filter option for different parts of the frequency spectrum, as well as different detection shapes and even what channel to take the key from
hiii nice video.. i use this mixer x32.. but i want to try another console like a SQ and. TF.. bcause this technic is very easy to use..so this method/ technic eqing the instrument can be apply at another console/ mixer like aq SQ& TF..??
Love it! Thank you!
Hey Reed! How do you mic the kick drum?
Thank you Brittainy. That was very helpful
Hi, can u give us tips for the range frequency for each instrument? Like for bass it s on a range 60-80 maybe, and each part of drum , and other instrument, thanks!!
I don’t know if it is personal preference, I like to start cutting things out first before I start boosting signal. It makes it more easier to cut things when no signal is boosted idk but that’s just me.
For spd 30 is it same
Thanks for the video! Sounds great
sounds great , thanks
Love this! Thank you! 🤘
Question regarding the Snare EQ...what if the drummer wants his snare to ring a little? Do you take it out anyway?
Can you talk about your drum mic placement ?
Hello, excellent thanks for the input is very helpful.
It is possible to share the audio for us to practice with that excellent recording.
Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for the video. This will help allot.
Realy amazing ...
That was very helpful. thank you.
Great video and to the point.
Great job
Awesome demonstration of mixing a drum kit - Brittainy!!!!
Does this controller works with Pro Tools 12
Yes
Thanks Brittainy for this Helpful Video , Could you share Please the tracks that you are Playing so we can practice it as well . Regards
Nice mix. I have a different view though. Just thinking how the drums especially the side tom would blend with the bass and also when reverb are in place. I think some instances would require a much wider Q. Snare top and bottom seems not to have phase issues. Has audios been already treated in a DAW before routing to the console channels?. My thoughts anyway. Good one
perfect mix
before setting the eq always think of the gain staging guys
Agree with you 100%
great work!
Nice! Just a question. How do you put your 2 overhead mics on 1 channel please ???
the mics itself save her huge.
Do you have drum mixing preset ?
gain structure?
GREAT JOB! GRACIAS!