Recently installed a tuning box on my Mercedes C 220cdi. I can feel the added power (especially in the midrange) and my daily trip MPG went from around 38 to around 44 when I'm driving sensibly. So not a massive saving, but it all adds up and the box eventually paid for itself.
I had my Volvo C70 2.0 5-cylinder diesel tuned from the stock 177 bhp, to 215 bhp made a big difference, especially the mid-range performance, economy wise, before the remap it was doing 41 mpg on average, now it's down to 38 mpg average, so, a little more thirsty but well worth the penalty, the astonishing thing was, the car had done 101k miles when I had it tuned, when Celtic tuning put it on the roller it came out at 181 bhp before the remap, so I said how come it's higher than stock ? They said Volvo engines often do this, they produce more power than quoted as standard, despite having 100k on the clock it was still producing more power than the quoted figure for a brand new car! I stood back in amazement to be honest 😂
The chap doing the tunning knows what he is doing. The fact that he brought the car on a test drive before and logged all of the paramaters is vsry impressive. I would have noted his comment that injector 1 was down and got it replaced or refurbished first. Come back again for the final remap.
I have a 320d m47, egr delete and cooler, swell flaps delete and upgrade filter swell flaps and mines made 220bhp im taking it stage 2 with bigger injectors and fuel components and see where it goes. Great video agin my friend!!
Been mapping my cars for 30years….its the first thing I do the minute I buy the car….never brand new tho…..the difference is night and day in pick up……Audis BMWs and last one a Jag XF……can’t recommend a map …enough….tell your friends…
Presumably this was a "stage 1" remap - above that perhaps not being wise without clutch/brake mods. Your injector issue reinforces the point that most tuning firms say i.e. the car needs to be in good condition before doing this sort of thing.
Great stuff mate, I've got a generic map from a tuning Company in Wolverhampton for my 118d , in all honesty I've definitely got used to it after 4 years but the power kfc put out I'm shocked, might be worth contacting darkside for them to work their magic, what price you looking at to get what you done today mate?
For doing what is natural for an engine and not what some idiot in Brussels / Westminster thinks. 👍 If they really gave a - about the environment, we would be using cleaner fuels and tuning the engines not bolting garbage onto engines to make them inefficient and more susceptible to failure.
remember its not all just about gains , your putting more pressure on everything else so expect more bills ... had my car mapped and it instantly had fly wheel judders just as turbo kicks in ... (the clutch and flywheel were changed 20k ago you just never know if your car is perfect or not
Again, the car is only mapped to safe levels. The tuners always make sure the car is happy and clutch isn’t slipping etc. The clutch on this 318d is the same as the 320d so it’s good for 250-300bhp
@@lu34lyf a stock clutch should be able to handle a stage 1 fine just reduced life span , a 20k clutch should be fine its just a dodgey flywheel shi* happens , my point was you should expect more bills with a remap ...
Nope, a good tune will get the best efficiency and performance from your engine. Everything from the factory is simply a baseline. A bad tune however....
There are many reasons to buy the 318d.. Cheaper to buy, cheaper on fuel, cheaper to tax, probably cheaper to insure and no swirl flaps.. But yes if you want more power then go for 320 or even 335d and get that tuned🙌🏻
@@charliecoco2115If/when something happens, and they find out that the car is illegal they pay not a nickel nor a dime. Insurance companies don't like illegal vehicles. Twenty years ago the UK belonged to the EU and at that time cars got a "whole car" "permission", and according to that "homologation" you aren't allowed to make the slightest change to anything that affects the emissions. So it's quite clear what's legal and not. No discussion is needed... 🥺
Probably not best to tune the vehicle especially if you take it to BMW as they can see if it’s been tuned or not and will most likely void any warranties you have left on it. Was asked if it was modified when I took my diesel in for EGR replacement in Feb.
He surely doesn't have any warranties left on it. You're right about the EGR replacement action, but BMW has to replace the EGR if the car is affected, this isn't a warranty thing. But even if he takes it to BMW and the software has corrected/original CVNs BMW isn't gonna notice it.. but a update of the DME would overwrite the tune. He specifically needs to tell them that he doesn't want his car to get updated. Or darkside flashes the tune back in after the BMW update.
Yeah definitely don’t have a BMW warranty on a 14 year old 190k miler.. I wish I did but I don’t 😅 Recalls have to be done regardless of the state of your car but yes always specify that you don’t want any engine ECU updates👍🏻
I wouldn't really recommend tuning a BMW diesel. The components are already at their limit. If the engine produces more soot and ashes, then you may be forced to buy a new DPF... I have a 2011 30d X3, 258 hp and 560 Nm of torque. And it seem that the ZF 8hp70 automatic gearbox doesn't last very well... So already with a standard engine you have to be careful on the throttle to make vital components last. Then the crankshaft in this engine is too weak too... In the 35d engine they use a stronger crankshaft! Then you need almost an engine oil that is made for racing engines, and the problem with these oils are that they are single grade 40/50/60. But there should be an American oil that could be useable. I don't remember the name of the company but they make oils for racing primarily. Normal olis don't stand the higher pressure on the bearings, unfortunately. If you want to be fast at the traffic lights, buy a simple EV! Or buy a secondhand race car to drive on tracks with! I think that is the cheapest way of having fun at the end!
It really depends on the specific car and can't be generalized on all BMW diesel engines. And no, EVs or "secondhand race cars" (lol what? :D) are not the cheapest way of having fun. Sorry for being rude, but stop spreading false informations just because your specific car had/has problems. IF it is true that remapping diesel engines is actually bad and so on, how does darksides business survive?
@@daviddorado5632 yup thats true, but the peripherals are a little bit different between 18d and 20d injection wise. If I remember right the injectors are different..? But the engine bottom end itself is exactly the same so no worries. You‘re right 💪🏻
Denmark is one of the worst countries when it comes to cars. We pay a lot to own them. We almost can't modify anything. I think we pay the most for fuel in the entire EU and from 2022 to 2023 there was an average of about 158 cars getting impounded every month or about 5 every day. I really wish Denmark would take it a little more easy on cars but sadly Denmark cares way more about looking good from the outside than for peoples passion.
Brilliant George thankyou for taking the camera along for us.
Cheers Charlie🙌🏻
Recently installed a tuning box on my Mercedes C 220cdi. I can feel the added power (especially in the midrange) and my daily trip MPG went from around 38 to around 44 when I'm driving sensibly. So not a massive saving, but it all adds up and the box eventually paid for itself.
I had my Volvo C70 2.0 5-cylinder diesel tuned from the stock 177 bhp, to 215 bhp made a big difference, especially the mid-range performance, economy wise, before the remap it was doing 41 mpg on average, now it's down to 38 mpg average, so, a little more thirsty but well worth the penalty, the astonishing thing was, the car had done 101k miles when I had it tuned, when Celtic tuning put it on the roller it came out at 181 bhp before the remap, so I said how come it's higher than stock ? They said Volvo engines often do this, they produce more power than quoted as standard, despite having 100k on the clock it was still producing more power than the quoted figure for a brand new car! I stood back in amazement to be honest 😂
Your videos have helped me a great deal with my 2014 and my daughters 2016 BMW 328d .... Thank you !
Great to hear!
The chap doing the tunning knows what he is doing. The fact that he brought the car on a test drive before and logged all of the paramaters is vsry impressive. I would have noted his comment that injector 1 was down and got it replaced or refurbished first. Come back again for the final remap.
I’ll likely be swapping out that injector in the future👍🏻
Agreed. The Tuner really does know his onions
I have a 320d m47, egr delete and cooler, swell flaps delete and upgrade filter swell flaps and mines made 220bhp im taking it stage 2 with bigger injectors and fuel components and see where it goes. Great video agin my friend!!
how many mileS?
Been mapping my cars for 30years….its the first thing I do the minute I buy the car….never brand new tho…..the difference is night and day in pick up……Audis BMWs and last one a Jag XF……can’t recommend a map …enough….tell your friends…
yes clean valves
Bloody hell George has grown since last time i saw him....😅
Very tempted . 320d 184bhp - interested to see what it can do mapped!
They tune very well!
@@GeorgeAusters I wish they were in spain
225 with no upgrades.
@@markchallinor3508 Once I get my alternator swapped out and a new drive belt on , i recon ill probably bite the bullet
Presumably this was a "stage 1" remap - above that perhaps not being wise without clutch/brake mods. Your injector issue reinforces the point that most tuning firms say i.e. the car needs to be in good condition before doing this sort of thing.
Exactly this
Great stuff mate, I've got a generic map from a tuning Company in Wolverhampton for my 118d , in all honesty I've definitely got used to it after 4 years but the power kfc put out I'm shocked, might be worth contacting darkside for them to work their magic, what price you looking at to get what you done today mate?
Darkside will almost certainly get more from your car if you want it👌🏻
@GeorgeAusters cheers mate, I think I remember from the clutch episode but the dpf is it ✂️ out?
this man disecting the logs knows his shit!
Agreed!
We want Papadakis Stylianos in more videos💪
For doing what is natural for an engine and not what some idiot in Brussels / Westminster thinks. 👍
If they really gave a - about the environment, we would be using cleaner fuels and tuning the engines not bolting garbage onto engines to make them inefficient and more susceptible to failure.
Great video thank you
Bring the tall guy for an episode for diesel tuning discussion!!!
remember its not all just about gains , your putting more pressure on everything else so expect more bills ... had my car mapped and it instantly had fly wheel judders just as turbo kicks in ... (the clutch and flywheel were changed 20k ago you just never know if your car is perfect or not
Again, the car is only mapped to safe levels. The tuners always make sure the car is happy and clutch isn’t slipping etc.
The clutch on this 318d is the same as the 320d so it’s good for 250-300bhp
maps a motor, doesnt upgrade clutch kit or things that drive the car, and expects a 20k stock clutch to handle upped BHP and TORQUE 🤷🤦
@@lu34lyf a stock clutch should be able to handle a stage 1 fine just reduced life span , a 20k clutch should be fine its just a dodgey flywheel shi* happens , my point was you should expect more bills with a remap ...
Nope, a good tune will get the best efficiency and performance from your engine. Everything from the factory is simply a baseline. A bad tune however....
oioi, time to tune the Chicken Shed!
Ive been waiting years for the clutch n daul mass to "go" in my VW T5 174......its now got to be done next tues 🤮......... Re-map soon after 😁💪🏻💪🏻
Just replaced my clutch and flywheel before doing this👌🏻
What millage is the car on mate I have a 184bhp looking to get it mapped by dark side 2010 108000 miles what you recon 👍
190k miles👍🏻
All good until....it goes bang👍
They only map to safe levels, that’s why there are various tests that need performing too!
Which is why you use somebody who knows what they are doing and pay them their worth.
Don’t overture, is the answer.
Nice job but probably easier just to buy a 320d in the first place although maybe cheaper road tax? 👍
There are many reasons to buy the 318d.. Cheaper to buy, cheaper on fuel, cheaper to tax, probably cheaper to insure and no swirl flaps.. But yes if you want more power then go for 320 or even 335d and get that tuned🙌🏻
@@GeorgeAusters good point re swirl flaps
Finally got the m518d 😂
How much did it cost you george? I'm wanting to take my 520D e61 to them soon 👌🏻
Send them an email for an accurate quote on your car mate👍🏻
Μπραβο Στελιο!!
Diesel owners add 2-EHN to every tank
Please explain ?
It ups the cetane level of diesel, meaning it ignites easier. It’s what the super diesels have added to them in their additive package
@@paulcaney5936read below
@@michaelchapman6959exactly I’ve been using it for yrs on both my cars
i think this tuner he is from greece right?
Correct
How much does a re-map affect your insurance premium?
Yeah, what did the insurance say?🤣
mate fuck them , they don't care. why you ??
insurance company are big scam
@@charliecoco2115If/when something happens, and they find out that the car is illegal they pay not a nickel nor a dime. Insurance companies don't like illegal vehicles.
Twenty years ago the UK belonged to the EU and at that time cars got a "whole car" "permission", and according to that "homologation" you aren't allowed to make the slightest change to anything that affects the emissions.
So it's quite clear what's legal and not. No discussion is needed... 🥺
@@leiflillandt1488 how can they prove you mapped it last owner may have done it and never notified you 😂
i'd argue that it's just a software update. No components modified.
If that's an N47 the timing chain, Slippers and tensioner will be crying their eyes out! 😂
Why? The timing chain has no idea what power the engine makes. It does the same job anyway 😇
Timing chain has already been done on this car👍🏻
@@mcplutt I put a smiley after it fella, Lighten up! Just that the N47's weak spot is the timing chain!
@@scotty6346 I am glad I have an N57 then 😄
Same chain set as on the n47d20b at 202hp std
Dodgy injector ;)
Personally i would just do stage 1 remap, basically resetting the car back to when it was brand new
street legal?
Can you do merc diesel
Just those mentioned in the video👍🏻
Dpuk
Probably not best to tune the vehicle especially if you take it to BMW as they can see if it’s been tuned or not and will most likely void any warranties you have left on it. Was asked if it was modified when I took my diesel in for EGR replacement in Feb.
He surely doesn't have any warranties left on it. You're right about the EGR replacement action, but BMW has to replace the EGR if the car is affected, this isn't a warranty thing. But even if he takes it to BMW and the software has corrected/original CVNs BMW isn't gonna notice it.. but a update of the DME would overwrite the tune. He specifically needs to tell them that he doesn't want his car to get updated. Or darkside flashes the tune back in after the BMW update.
Yeah definitely don’t have a BMW warranty on a 14 year old 190k miler.. I wish I did but I don’t 😅
Recalls have to be done regardless of the state of your car but yes always specify that you don’t want any engine ECU updates👍🏻
This guy is italian
Is it an Italian job ?
I follow you from Italy
Hello in Italy👋🏼
He's Greek actually...
Coventry got robbed today, George. They played so well. Gutted for ys..
Agreed!
So... a petrol version of this video?
I wouldn't really recommend tuning a BMW diesel. The components are already at their limit.
If the engine produces more soot and ashes, then you may be forced to buy a new DPF...
I have a 2011 30d X3, 258 hp and 560 Nm of torque.
And it seem that the ZF 8hp70 automatic gearbox doesn't last very well... So already with a standard engine you have to be careful on the throttle to make vital components last.
Then the crankshaft in this engine is too weak too...
In the 35d engine they use a stronger crankshaft!
Then you need almost an engine oil that is made for racing engines, and the problem with these oils are that they are single grade 40/50/60.
But there should be an American oil that could be useable. I don't remember the name of the company but they make oils for racing primarily.
Normal olis don't stand the higher pressure on the bearings, unfortunately.
If you want to be fast at the traffic lights, buy a simple EV! Or buy a secondhand race car to drive on tracks with! I think that is the cheapest way of having fun at the end!
It really depends on the specific car and can't be generalized on all BMW diesel engines. And no, EVs or "secondhand race cars" (lol what? :D) are not the cheapest way of having fun. Sorry for being rude, but stop spreading false informations just because your specific car had/has problems. IF it is true that remapping diesel engines is actually bad and so on, how does darksides business survive?
That was a lot to take in 😀
Its not at its limits, cause with the exact same engine you have the 320d with 184hp
@@daviddorado5632 yup thats true, but the peripherals are a little bit different between 18d and 20d injection wise. If I remember right the injectors are different..? But the engine bottom end itself is exactly the same so no worries. You‘re right 💪🏻
@@blablablaqwd yes the inyectores are different.rest of thr engine is the same engine from top to bottom
George, you look a bit like Carl Froch 👊
I get it a lot haha
Like the Aldi, AliExpress, Wish version.
would love to do this, but in denmark they will impound your car and take your ecu for doing this to it
so no sense of humour in denmark when it comes to emmissions ? the wef is strong in your country??
Denmark is one of the worst countries when it comes to cars. We pay a lot to own them. We almost can't modify anything. I think we pay the most for fuel in the entire EU and from 2022 to 2023 there was an average of about 158 cars getting impounded every month or about 5 every day. I really wish Denmark would take it a little more easy on cars but sadly Denmark cares way more about looking good from the outside than for peoples passion.