The media ALWAYS thinks that it's OK to be matey and irreverent with bands from Liverpool or Manchester. They disrespect the intensity of emotion and intellect that the catchy tunes contain. For the presenter to banter that Lee was nuts is one thing but to not wholeheartedly agree when John Power said 'Talented, I'd say'...Yet some privately educated violinist from southern England will go on a radio show and they'll treat this pretender, who's spent her life connivingly acting like she's made of glass throwing out rainbows, as if she is a true sensitive 'artist'.
Fantastic on John...he knew exactly where that line of questioning was going eh? Talented rather than nuts, rightfully so put on a pedestal, scratching the surface to be different rather than the same old shit...yep, that's the La's!
My CD of the La's BBC Sessions is one of my most valuable possessions. It's absolutely magical, enchanting and inspiring. Crank that up on a decent stereo in a nice-sized area, give it room to breath, it will knock your socks right off.
I own the deluxe version of their debut album. I agree wholeheartedly about the BBC sessions. I especially love their cover of Buddy Holly's "That'll Be The Day".
John has grown into a thoughtful, sensitive person. He's said now that he's had his own ups and downs, personnel issues with his band and so on he understands what Lee had to deal with much better now. I hope they visit each other because those are not paper chains between them.
Just to explain for those who don't understand, or think this is "mad", all sound has a frequency (obviously), the frequency of the recognised standard musical tuning is 440hz, electricity operates at 50/60hz, the main reference point or note on a piano, which is taught right from the start is the "middle C", the middle C emits a frequency around 260hz. So a frequency of 50/60hz like that of an electrical hum, would give you the note A#. Like John says perfectly here, there's nothing wrong with scratching beneath the surface of the idealised norm, The La's encapsulated that perfectly. Musicians out there, try playing along to songs like Feelin' or Looking Glass in standard tuning, you'll see what I mean 😉.
thank you for a clear explanation, I understand electricity better than I do music so that really helped. It also shows the host to be more of an idiot than I first thought, and trust me, after that comment about Lee, I was convinced he was an idiot.
I imagine they tuned to the fridge so they could use the electric hum as a backing drone. I remember playing a D chord on my guitar at home once and the water pipe or something started making a noise and it was exactly in tune with the D chord. Went perfectly! So I can see where they're coming from, not so strange really.
Exactly that, those who know, know! Those who don't are just too ignorant to understand. Not weird to me at all. Makes perfect sense. It's all about frequencies.
I don't see what is so 'out there' about tit...it's a fairly elementary principle. My fridge hummed fairly consistantly at middle C, handy when you ran out of batteries for the tuner....needs be, where needs must.
The funny thing thanks to modern technology people have remixed There She Goes to the frequency Lee was on about and there is a subtle, noticeable difference. Maybe the mad man was on to something?
DJ classic smarmy media man (in this interview clip at least - sue he’s a good fella). So glib and casually disrespectful of a decent bloke who was an eccentric, exploratory and great songwriter. Arguably a seeder of the Britpop movement and just a man who was walking his own path in life.
I think we all know Mavers was a rare genius and that word 'rare' characterises the sense of genius in the first place. His songwriting skills were second to none and his understanding of The La's purpose was complex and multi-faceted.. But when you consider his ceaseless perfectionism, rejection of top drawer producers and ultimate opinion that the album was nonsense i.e. fans should give it a wide berth, we're moving into familiar 'bonkers genius' territory, made clear from this clip. I mean come on, the man thought only instruments with original '60s dust could possibly achieve the sound he envisaged for the album! 🤣
Does the interviewer really think it's nuts to be able to use your ears and not be dependent on standard tuning? He needs to learn about the simple concept of frequencies.
The problem with Lee Mavers is that he can spend thirty years thinking about the theory of sound. I mean, I spent about 3 months learning about the theory of sound and was bored shitless. Pick up a guitar, write a tune, record it. Simple. Stop thinking, start doing.
He's given us a whole load of genius songs; some finished and many unfinished (yet equally beautiful in their own way). What have you given to the world I wonder, Ryan Sams?
@@InParticularNobody probably loads what he's not allowed an opinion?. Mavers was indulged and flattered and given breaks and opportunities far better talents would make more use of..this putting people like that on a pedestal who don't deliver is a joke..its a cult nothing more
anyone who is butthurt by ryansams1268 comment is kidding themselves. the La's spent 6 years trying to record 10 songs.... in 20 studios which cost the record label over a million pounds. John Power QUIT cos he couldnt stand Mavers ridiculous OCD and inability to exist in the real world. there's a reason why Oasis became the biggets band in the UK 4 years later. they: "Picked up a guitar, wrote a tune, recorded it. Simple. Stopped thinking, got the fook on with it" @@adamusohadamus
I love how John, despite everything he's gone through with Lee, won't play along with the host in trying to make fun of Lee. Classy bloke fairplay.
"Talented I like to say...." Well said, John.
Yeah this prick calling him nuts he couldn't shine his shoes
The media ALWAYS thinks that it's OK to be matey and irreverent with bands from Liverpool or Manchester. They disrespect the intensity of emotion and intellect that the catchy tunes contain. For the presenter to banter that Lee was nuts is one thing but to not wholeheartedly agree when John Power said 'Talented, I'd say'...Yet some privately educated violinist from southern England will go on a radio show and they'll treat this pretender, who's spent her life connivingly acting like she's made of glass throwing out rainbows, as if she is a true sensitive 'artist'.
Picnicl agreed
Spot on there la
Picnicl Just chill dude, Lee played up to his image too...i always thought stop fucking about with tuning and do some more great songs
spot on mate
Couldn’t agree more, very disrespectful towards Lee Mavers I thought.
A disrespectful prick in the media........who’d have thought 🙄
Fantastic on John...he knew exactly where that line of questioning was going eh? Talented rather than nuts, rightfully so put on a pedestal, scratching the surface to be different rather than the same old shit...yep, that's the La's!
My CD of the La's BBC Sessions is one of my most valuable possessions. It's absolutely magical, enchanting and inspiring. Crank that up on a decent stereo in a nice-sized area, give it room to breath, it will knock your socks right off.
I own the deluxe version of their debut album. I agree wholeheartedly about the BBC sessions. I especially love their cover of Buddy Holly's "That'll Be The Day".
@@applescruff1969 me too!
John Power is a cool , intelligent Liverpudlian.
That'll be most of us. X
John has grown into a thoughtful, sensitive person. He's said now that he's had his own ups and downs, personnel issues with his band and so on he understands what Lee had to deal with much better now. I hope they visit each other because those are not paper chains between them.
@@susantodd3233 I see what you did there
@@Johnconno Certainly a sharp sense of humour which you are famous for and shown in your comment!
Just tuned my guitar to the hum.. can confirm it does work and it gives you a perfect full step down
Just to explain for those who don't understand, or think this is "mad", all sound has a frequency (obviously), the frequency of the recognised standard musical tuning is 440hz, electricity operates at 50/60hz, the main reference point or note on a piano, which is taught right from the start is the "middle C", the middle C emits a frequency around 260hz. So a frequency of 50/60hz like that of an electrical hum, would give you the note A#. Like John says perfectly here, there's nothing wrong with scratching beneath the surface of the idealised norm, The La's encapsulated that perfectly. Musicians out there, try playing along to songs like Feelin' or Looking Glass in standard tuning, you'll see what I mean 😉.
thank you for a clear explanation, I understand electricity better than I do music so that really helped.
It also shows the host to be more of an idiot than I first thought, and trust me, after that comment about Lee, I was convinced he was an idiot.
la's were legandry
*ARE
Always will be
Fairplay to John remaining a gent .... what a disrespectful helmet the interviewer is
' Feelin ' is my favourite song. Ever. All time.
Timeless Melody for me
I imagine they tuned to the fridge so they could use the electric hum as a backing drone. I remember playing a D chord on my guitar at home once and the water pipe or something started making a noise and it was exactly in tune with the D chord. Went perfectly! So I can see where they're coming from, not so strange really.
Exactly that, those who know, know! Those who don't are just too ignorant to understand. Not weird to me at all. Makes perfect sense. It's all about frequencies.
But that still doesn't really make sense, because you can just record the fridge and shift the pitch of the hum to align with standard tuning.
Lmfao tuning to the hum of a fridge....thank god for the la's
A reference point and some can hear electrical hums better than others.
Legend in his own right Power.
'And those who were seen dancing were considered insane by those who could not hear the music"
Exactly that. By Nietzsche I believe? Spot on...
Lee mavers was and is a phoney a pretentious scouser who looked liked a window cleaner got courted by record companies and blew it all away
50hz is it G - G# depending on supply conditions, the famous 50 cycle hum.
the interviewer sounds really rude
he did learn from The La's, isright John
The interviewer knows nothing about Mavers.....
I tune my drums to the hum of a DeWalt DCD778M2T SFGB 18v drill. They sound shite...or maybe that's just my playing?
maybe yer drills fucked mate?
2nd La's album please
"... otherwise your just running with the standard status quo settings"
"mmm... yes"
Cue the Absolute radio muzak filler 😁
That explains why they were so 'chilled'.
Legendary
mad lads
In the U.S. the 60 cycles per second A.C. hum is pervasive. Not a bad idea to tune to it at all.
Presenter didn’t get it although he said he did!
I don't see what is so 'out there' about tit...it's a fairly elementary principle. My fridge hummed fairly consistantly at middle C, handy when you ran out of batteries for the tuner....needs be, where needs must.
The funny thing thanks to modern technology people have remixed There She Goes to the frequency Lee was on about and there is a subtle, noticeable difference. Maybe the mad man was on to something?
DJ classic smarmy media man (in this interview clip at least - sue he’s a good fella). So glib and casually disrespectful of a decent bloke who was an eccentric, exploratory and great songwriter. Arguably a seeder of the Britpop movement and just a man who was walking his own path in life.
Explains why half of their songs seem to be about a fucking quarter semitone off from standard tuning.
Jock the commentator needs smack.
I mean he could've just tuned to the centi tone thats what speedy slug does to mimic the old british sound
They we're Rootsy
Did he wake up in the skip outside the studio before coming in? I wouldn’t know whether to interview him or give him some Big Issues to sell.
...says the guy with Justin Timberlake & Slick Rick on his playlist. go bang some booty homie
I think we all know Mavers was a rare genius and that word 'rare' characterises the sense of genius in the first place. His songwriting skills were second to none and his understanding of The La's purpose was complex and multi-faceted.. But when you consider his ceaseless perfectionism, rejection of top drawer producers and ultimate opinion that the album was nonsense i.e. fans should give it a wide berth, we're moving into familiar 'bonkers genius' territory, made clear from this clip. I mean come on, the man thought only instruments with original '60s dust could possibly achieve the sound he envisaged for the album! 🤣
This interviewer is terrible. Seemingly jealous of someone with genuine talent
He's too dim to be jealous. The rest of us are jealous of genius.
johns better than this.
Tuning to the clothes washing machine would be relaxing. And I wouldn't answer to anyone about it.
Does the interviewer really think it's nuts to be able to use your ears and not be dependent on standard tuning? He needs to learn about the simple concept of frequencies.
johns intelligent the interview wasnt
The problem with Lee Mavers is that he can spend thirty years thinking about the theory of sound. I mean, I spent about 3 months learning about the theory of sound and was bored shitless. Pick up a guitar, write a tune, record it. Simple. Stop thinking, start doing.
Tool
He's given us a whole load of genius songs; some finished and many unfinished (yet equally beautiful in their own way).
What have you given to the world I wonder, Ryan Sams?
@@InParticularNobody probably loads what he's not allowed an opinion?.
Mavers was indulged and flattered and given breaks and opportunities far better talents would make more use of..this putting people like that on a pedestal who don't deliver is a joke..its a cult nothing more
lol anyone who thinks it's "simple" to write songs as good as Lee Mavers has done is seriously misguided.
anyone who is butthurt by ryansams1268 comment is kidding themselves. the La's spent 6 years trying to record 10 songs.... in 20 studios which cost the record label over a million pounds. John Power QUIT cos he couldnt stand Mavers ridiculous OCD and inability to exist in the real world. there's a reason why Oasis became the biggets band in the UK 4 years later. they: "Picked up a guitar, wrote a tune, recorded it. Simple. Stopped thinking, got the fook on with it" @@adamusohadamus
Stinky Beard
all great musicians are "nuts". i hate that sort of dismissive shit.
I'm not an electrician, but surely the hum of a fridge isn't any more natural than 440htz. I'll leave it at that.
I don't believe for a second that they tuned up to fridges
you're right, they didn't tune up to fridges, they tuned down.
It was actually trees mate .
@@Ryan-vg4wn is right. 432 Hz la'.
nob....
Pete Mitchell seams like a jerk
Dj is a bloody numpty
a band with an apostrophe in it.
CAST are pretty fucking solid. Specially the first two records