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Smash 4 Wii U - How to Improve
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2016
- How to improve in Smash 4 Wii U & 3DS! This video sums up everything that's important to become a strong smash player.
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Beating ZeRo in top level play is like going Super Saiyan for the first time. At first, nobody could do it. But once one person did it, other people started to do it as well, and after a short amount of time, pretty much everyone's already done it, and the achievement is no longer as grand as it once was.
LOL, this is actually not a bad comparison xD
- cFive
Hahahahhahaa
xD
i think this is mostly attributable to the 2-month dip combined with people training extra hard for the summer of smash. if you look at street fighter tournaments, pretty much everyone except the top 2-4 players can randomly just drown in pools sometimes, both due to the format, and the skill levels. Tons of street fighter players have enough knowledge and execution to have a chance at beating top players, should the stars align. I have a feeling smash 4 has the potential to go in that direction, in addition to the fact that a lot of consistent strategies have been nerfed up.
Thats also how many super sayins there are... did you ever congratulate Gotten?
git gud
You mad scrub?
+Red Dischord I am
dude, I beat dank souls in 2 Hours!111!1!1
I'm so glad you included the part about learning different characters and especially learning characters that are better or "broken". You will immediately pick up on the characters' weaknesses if you play them yourself. It's also good for learning techniques that are commonly used for certain characters and attempting to apply them to your mains. So broken.
*stands up and claps * better motivational speech than Shay Lebouf
Thank you for making me a excuse of how i lose 800 hours playing smash
Well it's up to you to decide if those hours are wasted or well used
Same!
You mean well used hours
Yes, another method that may have not been mentioned is have confidence and don't blame your character all the time, observe how you're using the character and find a solution.
Thanks for mentioning me guys :)
Your channel is doing amazing!
+A Day In The Lab
Your channel is great too!
that C-Bounce technique is mad useful.
your awesome dude
Hi friend
Daniel
Hello Daniel
step 1. play melee. step 2. now smash 4 is on slow motion and you have no problems reacting to things you shouldn't be able to
I can say that this genuinely works. I played Melee for a stretch once before and went to Smash 4 with a much better reaction time afterwards.
+11volt or touccould play special smash on fast
basically melee hd :)
Boi I tried that like 2 months ago and trust me it works.
So true
+MaxTheHunter who cares
I just go offstage with pika for the disrespect
its not too hard to 2 frame with B-reverse thunder because the hitbox moves and lasts around a second
Very good guide for basics. I do wish everyone would take the advise though. I've said similar things to others and they just got mad at me for suggesting it. Particularly when it comes to trying out other characters. Some people think you're insulting them. They usually give me the excuse that they like the character, and that's fine they have a main, but you guys give the good point that playing other characters helps you understand the game better.
did they ask for the advice lol
Ninjanugets123
I can't remember actually. Oh well.
Complex News how
I've actually tried out the whole cast and play with them in for glory
That feel when you're not a favorite UA-cam channel ;_;
LOL! I watch your videos and you're one of my favorites :)!
hype
same kappa
We LOVE your content, but it doesn't fit into the "tutorial" section!
Maybe because you seem to just upload montages instead of tips and tricks.
This video may very well be the most useful video in the entire Smash 4 community. Incredible.
Bowser has a hoo-ha..? I thought it was a.....
KOO-PA!
Perfect practice makes perfect
Like your pic
+Ultra Chicken it's not perfect tho, it's just right.
+Geras I just refer to it as perfect for reasons.
Amazing guide, its one i think many people can actually relate to.
And that thumbnail is badass!
I know, right?! I'm super happy about how the thumbnail looks! :D
-Risuno
+Beefy Smash Doods keep it up!
I IMMEDIATELY clicked on this video as soon as it came up on my phone.
heeeey, i remember you
i clicked on this video way before i got the ntfcion
I clicked on it before the internet was a thing.
People care as much as they do for when someone says "First!"
Which means they don't
Benjamin Shields I just noticed you're icon just now lol
Have I mentioned how awesome you guys are?
You guys are awesome!
i wanted to say that first.....well
Do you guys think you can cover the advanced technique known as super glide tossing?
+dre154 I believe they mention it in a video or two, but My Smash Corner goes over it in a couple videos.
My "friends" complain that I have too many Mains. I do that is because I would like to be good with a players and when I don't have a good match up against an opponant, I just switch each person.
same. i have different characters for different match ups lol. its a smart choice
Yeah that's good but it's always good to make sure to have at least 1 character that you KNOW if you had to could win the match
At first I thought this video was going to be listing ways that the dev team/Sakurai could improve the game.
Same LOL
it would be a much longer video
Sakurai did improve the game just pick Sakurai profile at 6:40 and you became a successful smasher. Nobody will gets your way to lose.
Sakurai made the game The game already is improved
yeah
heck the tier lists dont even matter much
What he said at 4:20
PREACH
Thank you for pointing this out. It is indeed a very important point. Time to play some Diddy Kong and Bowser Jr. (My hardest MUs)
+Robi-Wan Shinobi Are you on Amino? There's a guy with your name that followed me there.
+Grayson Pray I am on Amino but I don't recall following anyone yet. =P
+Robi-Wan Shinobi It was on the Martial Arts Amino. I have someone following me with your name and profile picture.
+Grayson Pray I am following the martial arts Amino page. Are you the creator? Maybe that's why? In any case I'm new to the program so I may have inadvertently followed you. =P
How to improve
1. Practice beating 2 level 9 cpu's on the same team with team attack off(1v2)
2. Go in training and Ko the cpu 2 times in run mode
3. In training play the speed in 1/4 to get increase in your gaming speed
4. Play handicapped matches where your health is at 80 and the cpu at 0
5. Aim better in classic mode or beat 9.0
6. Practice true combos or combos in general or study your character's play style or play style's
Darius Cross I don't think you should just play against cpu they are impossible to read
John Duffey it's mainly to practice offline but yeah I get your point
tfw no friends. tfw too shy to meet strangers. For Glory it is.
you wanna add me? we can do some matches if you'd like! i have both 3DS and Wii U.
hey I'll play you! I love ur profile pic ha-ha. who do you play?
Awwww i'll play with ya ;D got discord? also you play wiiU?
do u wanna add me or does anyone wanna add me we can play?
If you use discord
Question: Why is everyone on For Glory a cancer?
Eh, I'm not calling you or me cancer, I'm just saying that most people aren't really people that want to play the game to have fun, it seems. Or perhaps that's the opposite problem, that they don't want to have fun, or want you to be the one nit having fun.
Because you get there via internet
and the internet has cancer
*el cancer
+Pixel hey I think you're on to something.
Because kids.
I wish on online there was ranks, I always seem to find pros and lose
i will keep footstooling ;^)
ya
i can never master footstooling
if you keep tryin' and practicing i assure you that you can eventually.
+NWDM | Shadowclaw thanks. ☺
How to play Greninja
footstool
I'm reading the comments and no-one seems to be praising Beefy Smash Doods for that kickass and inspiring ending. Props, guys.
What a great video. Trying to help out the Sm4sh community genuinely actually makes me smile!
How to git gud at Smash:
Step 1.) Play Shie...oh wait. I mean play Didd...shit. How about play Bayon...dammit! Why is this so hard?
step 1: play cloud.
Ah yes, thats what it was. Thank you
Yo i actually tried to main villager at one point. cant decide if i like him or big dick link more...
play bastion
You forgot to mention the mindset you have while playing and knowing how to deal with salt. My roommate has played a loooooot more than me but we are basically the same skill level because he spends most of his time getting frustrated with people on FG rather than seriously thinking about his play and how to improve.
The revamp of the channel has been amazing you guys are doing a great job
Just went 1-2 for the third month since starting my competitive smash career. I really needed this.
anyone else notice the thumbnail of the vine compilation at 9:30?
I noticed the one about the anime faces... scary thumbnail ._.
Learning everything about every character seems unrealistic? Did you ever heard of Jason Zimmermann? lol
lolM2K
Considering he got bodied by aMSa, he probably didn't know everything about Yoshi.
+Amones-Ray
He knew the frame data and stuff like that but had no match up experience + amsa is god like...
that "Stay Beefy" combined with the Music really inspired me to get myself a GameCube Controller Adapter
This was really solid advice for improving not only at Smash, but life in general. Practice, Knowledge, Observation.
Fuck that
8 player bomb smash is where the fun is at!
8 player bomb smash with 300% and 50 lives is even better ;)
+killerpirate02 super fast bunny hood spicy fire special smash is vetter
+TheNsaneGamer better*
+TheNsaneGamer better*
nah
stamina battles with curry and flower
2:11 Why isn't your CSS ugly? In my game, I have two more characters on the top two rows than the bottom three
Edit: No Mii, got it.
no miis in for glory mode.
+Adoryo what does CSS mean?
Character Select Screen
+Adoryo oh thank you
this helped me so much, I felt like my progress to get better took a halt and I thought I needed to analyze my character looking for a super secret tech but now I know what's important and this definitely helped me wrap my head around how to effectively practice
I know it is good to analyze your character but I'm referring to spending all of my smash time on it
I have been playing Smash for 5 years now and I started learning obvious things like fast falling really late and I barely just started playing "mental" (like observing what your opponent does and reacting conveniently). It makes me kind of sad and frustrated but hey, better late than never after all. I started watching techniques, pro players ect. a few months ago. What made me realise that I played the game completly wrong and made me decide that I really wanted to improve was simply watching Smash Central's lesson 1 on how to Smash for beginners.
2 things, over 2000 hours playing as Yoshi Main but the real problem is no Competitive zone where I live, and the second thing, I dislike the first Yoshi clip where you afk to death>:(
Someone called me and... yeah, there goes my stock haha
-Risuno
ok I understand, good vid tho
Check on smashboards or Facebook for a competitive scene, you might find something close, who knows
+Jay B Already done :/
let's cry together buddy :'c
Smash joke incoming!
What happened to the smash player in the desert?
He died of *DI*dration!
Thank you thank you
no he died of dedededration
Why is Puff not Buff?
Reggie's still salty from HBox.
(Everyone yells “die!”)
Thank you Thank you
The “thank you thank you” was the funniest part
Want a better joke?
Please DI
The part about playing characters to learn their weaknesses is what grinds my gears about the DLC characters, if you don't pay up you can't do that strategy, making the learning process MUCH slower.
so i actually recommend to anyone who wants to improve that they learn smash mechanics in-depth on smashboards and ssbwiki, down to the technical level if possible. i especially recommend this to people who live in an area without much of a smash scene. It gives you the benefit of being able to theorycraft and innovate accurately, and makes it so that you can think of your own options and solutions to practice on your own, and apply against a live opponent afterwards.
Can you recommend a training option that will help with wall and ceiling techs?
Go into the stage builder room, and make a box made of lava. Leave a little opening in so you can get through. You'll bounce around in the box, and be given multiple opportunities to tech on every direction (ceiling, wall, floor).
+Argon This is how I learned. It definitely works!
+Argon yea that's the best way
Argon Cool. Thanks!
Go to training, choose the Temple map and go down in that hoke thingy. Turn your damage up high and set the cpu mode to Attack
Is it weird that when I play against a lvl 9 cpu I sometimes lose but when I've got that adrenaline from playing in a tournament I'm extremely scary to play against?
Level 9 cpus have faster reaction time than humans, plus you can't really trick them.
Pressure, habits, conditioning, none of these exist in a CPU. It's not a good opponent to train against
+Etienne Haupt Thx for the explanation
Well, since they do sort of predict by using probabilities, you can sort of mindgame them, but most of the time, especially in the air, if they have the frame data to do so they'll avoid your attack.
You can use them to train reflexes, but those situations will probably show up in a human match as well, so it's not as useful to use CPUs unless you're like me and you have bad internet, can't go to tournament, and can't train against friends often.
Dat Motivational ending make me feel like a hero ! And this video make me understand what is bad in the way how i play the game. Thank you Beefy !!
I clicked on this video before anyone else. And congratz on getting 83 000 views only having 86 000 subs! That's amazing!
i tried all this shit and im still awful
only combos ive learned in the past 5 months is shulk down throw to up b
and link 2 jabs to up b
AN LINK SHIT ISNT TRUE AND SHULK COMBO ONLY WORKS AT 0 PERCENT AND NOT AGAINST FAST FALLERS OR LIGHT WEIGHTS
GokuThe AMVGod lol 5 months for this...
I'm sorry, but Smash 4 does NOT offer a good online mode. Not in the slightest, nope. Worst netcode of any modern fighting game.
the netcode is actually godlike.
if you have an ethernet adapter.
Ahahahahahahaha...
Wait a second, you were serious? Let me laugh harder.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Compared to other fighters the netcode is definitely not very good.
BUT compared to Brawl we got something really nice! ^^
-Risuno
+ChillTerumi My friend has one and I only play on his console when we're not playing friendlies offline. I would go out and buy a Wii U and Smash 4 in a heartbeat if the netcode wasn't ass-tier. It feels like I'm playing in mud. I have to predict every narrow margin instead of being able to play reactively in close scenarios and it is a killer for me. I know playing reactively constantly isn't good, but for example, I can't react to an attacking animation or a defensive one. I just have to guess their move. My friends play competitively and they have sworn off online play because it hinders their offline performance. I have seen players pull off some sweet shit online and it boggles my mind because I can't even consistently auto-cancel a move I don't even have to think to do offline.
Do you play offline commonly as well, or are you just adjusted to the online play?
+KvatchIsInDanger Online ranges from .1 - .5 second lag for me usually. Every once in a while you find that one guy with like two seconds, but very rarely. After you play the game for a while, you realize habits that most players have, like rolling in when they are pressured and their back is to the ledge. Little things like that make it easy to read most opponents. Skilled players will need to adapt to each other's styles much more quickly, which is what will separate them from the rest. But you're right, in the end sometimes you just have to throw out attacks just because. Sometimes you just need to guess because the lag makes it really hard to play reactively.
this is without a doubt your best video guys. Great work!
Great video cFive! :)
I think one thing that should be noted about observation - If observing another player, you should understand WHY they're doing what they're doing (i.e. why did they do X move in Scenario A?), as opposed to just trying to mindlessly mimicking (not saying that you said to mimic tho). I also feel it's VERY important to find YOUR OWN STYLE as well. If it works for you then go for it!
I am a Ness main myself, but I actually play pretty differently compared to the other Ness players in my scene; I go SUPER aggro, which admittedly isn't always good (esp. when I land), but when I panic, I airdodge a LOT. But I have pretty good control of PK Thunder and I'm very eager to just jump in (basically I go HAM xD).
(I save all videos of me playing in my own personal playlist, in most cases I dread watching my old vids and wonder wtf was I thinking? But rewatching some of my better matches feels great)
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Should also note it's pretty important to ask for advice and have even your most little, simple curiosities answered; more often than not, people WILL point out where you go wrong. Or hell even asking something like "how did you act out of Magnet so fast?" (answer to that is that Ness can Magnet Cancel into a spotdodge/roll/jump) can help you out a LOT.
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I personally have issues dealing with tournament nerves, I CONSTANTLY find myself needing to use the washroom and tend to feel feverish so I now bring a spray bottle to cool myself a bit and try to relax. I always get scared but also excited waiting for bracket to start. I also like having my music on as I play (at first I was like "HOW DO YOU PEOPLE PLAY WITHOUT HEARING THE SOUND EFFECTS" but as the weeklies got more crowded and louder I started playing with music on and it helps me feel more focused). Moral: Find a way to enter your "zone" and ways to stay relaxed, and try to stay positive as you can! :)
"Smash 4 has a pretty good online mode."
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........
6:44 ha, corrin is arceus.
One cool thing to do but I think this only works short term is if you are struggling against a character go to training and set the speed to 1.5 and fight them for a while then when you change it back everything will feel slow and you can think more about the moves you are going to do it helped me out.
Just want to say that you guys are amazing. You guys make me feel like I can actually perform at that level and that it isn't that far to get to it
This was a great guide! It not only helped me on ssb4, but it also helped me a lot for playing ssf2.
OMG thank you so much, every time I play smash with my friends I have no problem, but when they do brackets I tend to have faster heart beat and my hands start twitching. I never thought it was because of I'm not used to the pressure. I can't thank you enough. I'm going to use most of the things you stated and try my best
like the video and can't believe I'm in it haha remember playing that match (I'm prickle BTW) hope to play you again
That thumbnail is so cool!
I'm so glad that a weekly tournament near me exists.
That combo at 5:05 holy cow good job cfive
Dang, kinda hoped my channel would be on the list x3 One day, one day.....lol great video regardless! Stuff I kinda already knew, but it's always nice to have a reminder of what I need to do to improve!
bsd on point with that instant HD avalibility
A video I've been waiting forever for... On my favourite sm4sh channel? Yes please!
That ending... ZeRo's diddy is savage bro
Okay, this was extremely inspiring. Thank you, my Beefy friends!
I was hitting a wall before I saw this video. Very inspiring, let's all get better together! :)
Sick! I was waiting for this video to drop!
"Don't get stuck with your Sheik and Diddy Kong."
That was definitely a reference to ZeRo
instructions unclear
could not find clothes
still searching the soup aisle
Very amazing! Excellent video for those people who are frustrated in their Smash play. I'll definitely help people by showing them this video, and the other videos you guys have uploaded. Stayin' Beefy!
One last thing I really recommend zeros for glory season 2 videos, he's doing them so you can learn alot from even the characters you don't play as
For observation purposes
I've seen them xD maannn he just plays good with some characters thats all, I really dont recomend them to watch it... they are just SHIT, like the one he talk about cloud and about link, his "tiers" are bullshit man. sorry if you dont share my opiniom, i just felt like posting this coment for the same purpose as you, is up to the readers what they want to do.
+Christian Rivera seems reasonable
thanks on the vid, i actually got insight. I needed this cuz Im going to Genesis4 this year lol
Amazing video. He makes consistently good content, but this was particularly great.
I needed that motivational ending for CEO.
To me this has been your greatest video by far
I watched Cree as he plays villager and it completely changing my play style, I accidentally followed these steps unintentionally and I got really good in a short time
Friends that like to play smash as much as me? Some of mine say im obsessed with it...
Me and my brother have been playing together since we got the game. We have improved pretty equal over time so we make the perfect team for 2v2 matches
Feels like i'm going to have to go to smash school.
Did anyone else have tears starting to swell while the outro was happening?
If you guys go into training mode, set a level 9 npc to "run" and try to improve your accuracy by attempting to hit a target running away and avoiding your attacks as quickly as possible. It's annoying, but i found it to be helpful.
9:30 I see that homepage :D
I have something to say.
From the beginning of my experience in Smash, I have always learnt with my own knowledge, I watch only a few tutorials, but nothing else.
And so I possess my originality, my own fight style and my own combos.
It needs a lot of time, but the result is that you deserve your skill.
I see a lot of players trying the combos seen on UA-cam, and I always see the same movepool around a character.
I think that the "self-teaching" is pretty fun, and efficient if I can say (even if I have a pretty low level).
Your video is great (of course), but personally, I try to learn by my experience on the game, learning only the bases (B reverse, dash dancing, Foxtrot...)
Bowser is not hard to play. So you can make your own combos, but when you use harder characters like Marth you need searching
+Ramiro Sandoval I use Marth, and I have my techniques, but I don't if it is already known by most of Smash players
+Eminithze like what?
+Ninjanugets123 The use of the first hit of the side B in the air to follow up with a neutral or a recover for example.
Or the first hit of the neutral air followed with a jab and then a down tilt, a grab and finally an up air
Eminithze ya homie those are known
Y'know, I never knew I needed a video like this. Thanks a lot!
Here's a way to get better: Be full on aggressive with a lvl9 cpu in training and try to take it out as many times as possible without dying; trying to kill it faster and faster. A great way to find out combos, when to stop attacking and overall improve reading your opponents.
You made me cry...
I love you D':
4:09 "Don't get stuck with your Shiek or Diddy Kong"
SHOTS FIRED AT ZERO!!11!!
I was hoping this was a Shulk improvement vid but this is just as good lol
In my school there is an event and we get to walk around to stands made by the different clubs to eat food or play games, and one club always brings a wii u with smash and you have to pay a dollar to enter a tournament the winner gets a pizza slice, drink, and a bag of chips, 2nd place gets a pizza slice and drink, and 3rd place gets just a pizza slice. I've never won but I think I should enter this year
Win that pizza slice, drink, and chips, my dude. Also, dick on Mac!
KEK Brand Cheese Spray That event just passed a few weeks ago, I got third place
Awesome video! I'm glad this applies to multiple skill levels.
I thank you so much for making this video, this really helped me and I plan to use your techniques to learn and hopefully be the best in my state. I'm a little young but I believe I am ready
You are giving honest advices for advanced players, begginers and pros because this kind of advice can apply for everything, just as you said. Thanks for that.
But I just think there are many people that get stucked in their "Diddy" and "Sheik" that they don't want to improve at all. All you said is good, even recording your loses. But I wouldn't recommend playing for glory 1 vs 1 because that is not a place for practicing. People there mock at you even if you try or not, sadly.
So, I think is the best find somebody online that has interest like oneself to improve, or practice yourself with two or three computers. Or even looking for regional (or people in the same city) to meet and have some Smash rounds.
That and because when I say the "Diddy and Sheik" think he said I mean that everyone is trying to hard to play the same. For glory 1 on 1 is (at some point) lack of creativity. Most of players use the same "combos" and "chains" they've seen applied in tournaments expecting to always win and when you are able to break and win through that, they don't want to play anymore, they don't approach ever and report you because you win.
Sounds stupid, but is true.
Hell, has been too many times I've been in ban list because it'd look I'm too good for some players. Seriously, I don't consider me that good tho, but that's what they left me thinking when they don't approach anymore, self destruct now and then say something mori. and then go.
Tip: if you're playing with lucario, try to tie. In Sudden Death his aura is maxed and his force palm is OP
Thank you for the motivation guys!
The thing about watching high level matches before playing is very true. I main mewtwo and ryu, and after watching trela or abadango I feel like I do better over all.
Cheers to one of the best channels of this subject, this video is truly inspiring
Thank you for showing me the ways to improve my gameplay. I want to show people my Luigi.
5:28 what he said about being nervous and having adrenaline. i have played in 3 smash tournaments, i know im good. but all 3 of those tournaments i get so nervous and i play alot worse, im not used to it. i blew 20 bucks to get my ass handed to me in the first 2 rounds of the tourny. hate being nervous it totally fucks with ur gameplay.
I always only practiced some parts: first normal Attacks, then Special Attacks, then smash Attacks, then shielding, then rolling, and now im trying to improve my airdodge skills or I try to learn using the right joy stick for smash attacks cuz it's way smoother
This is easily, in my opinion, y'all best video. Awesome. Thanks a ton.
released on my birthday, thanks for your present
I love how Bayonetta's pic represents her nerf lol