Coilovers vs Air Lift Performance! THE HARD TRUTH.

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • Is Air lift performance better than Coilovers? Matt here at SPEEDhaus has been Installing Air ride on cars for almost 15 years. He shares some insight and his honest opinion into which ones best for you! There is a huge debate in the car community about which type of suspension system is better; Coilovers or Air Suspension? Today, we will be explaining the pros and cons of each suspension type. Whether you are looking into deciding what setup to purchase or just want to hear the other side of the argument, this should leave you walking away with a better understanding of the 2 suspension systems.
    Air Lift Performance is the performance division of Air Lift Company and produces full air ride and air management systems for lowered and performance vehicles. Our bolt-on, direct-OEM-replacement kits are designed precisely for each individual chassis and with a commitment to quality are engineered to fit, work and last.
    Air Lift began engineering and manufacturing performance air suspension products in 1949. Our performance days started in NASCAR and the success of our products quickly spread to the wider consumer market.
    Air Lift Performance (previously known as EasyStreet and Air Lift Lifestyle & Performance) has also gone to great lengths to support the do-it-yourself market with our universal air suspension products for hot rods, late model and classic cars.
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  • @michelle692day
    @michelle692day 6 місяців тому +7

    Thankyou for this video. Sept ‘22 I bagged our Maserati Quattroporte using Accuair and UA-cam videos! Never had any issues so far. I had zero experience besides vids like this.

  • @Capable_intentions
    @Capable_intentions Рік тому +18

    Quick and to the point! Thank you for the great video

  • @toekneecovarrubias6185
    @toekneecovarrubias6185 10 днів тому +2

    It's called an Air spring, and an air spring is superior in EVERY suspension situation. Air is completely different because a coil spring is a consistent spring rate and Air gets stiffer the more air pressure you have. Adding weight adds Air pressure from the g force giveing the car better traction

    • @janslu97
      @janslu97 8 днів тому

      Do you know someone really good for Honda accord 2014

  • @Cortez-k3l
    @Cortez-k3l 3 місяці тому

    Loved his honesty if it popped that means you put it in wrong👍🏽👍🏽

  • @JohnnyLehti
    @JohnnyLehti 2 роки тому +27

    Intresting.
    Personally i wonder why not all race cars runs air suspension if it's faster on the track.
    I run coilovers on all my cars and they are not extremely bumpy. I would say that if they are extremely bumpy they are not set up correctly.

    • @cjbaldwin256
      @cjbaldwin256 Рік тому +8

      thank god this was said. all i could think to myself is "if your coilovers are bouncy they aren't even close to being set up correctly"

    • @nicholastoo858
      @nicholastoo858 Рік тому +1

      Weight, reliability, complexity

    • @joshua22099
      @joshua22099 2 місяці тому +1

      Most people don't know how to setup suspension or don't take the time to do it properly you can't make measurements until the car is settled on flat ground which can be involved depending on the car and how it was raised and lowered

  • @danr9584
    @danr9584 2 місяці тому +1

    How do the dampeners work for the air ride? Is it a separate replaceable strut cartridge that travels through the center of the bag, is it an integrated piece, or does it even have one?

  • @drupe3000
    @drupe3000 8 днів тому

    There’s flooding here in Miami what is your opinion on putting Airbags into a Honda accord 2024? On stock rims

  • @M3PQuicksilver
    @M3PQuicksilver Рік тому +80

    Opinions don’t matter when it comes to suspension facts do. Air ride is not meant for sports cars at all. Specially if you are going to track your car. Spring response compared to air bags are not the same. Springs respond to compression much faster compared to a air bags. You will never see any race car run on air bags. Bags are meant for cruisers, low rides or someone that wants to have the adjustability of the ride hight. As far as pricing goes actually Coilovers can be more expensive depending on what company you choose to go with. Also depends on the materials used to create a Coilover. Like JRZs, Penske or Motons can cost over $15,000- $30,000 depending on the level of motor sport. Even some street setups can run over $10,000 for a proper set. If you run air bags on a proper sports car, you are running the suspension setup and handling or the car.

    • @f3irty278
      @f3irty278 Рік тому +24

      That’s a jump - he’s talking about for a daily driven car/sports car. Yes. A dedicated track car would not use air, although apparently some people do.

    • @M3PQuicksilver
      @M3PQuicksilver Рік тому +8

      @@f3irty278 Their is no manufacturer that has ever ran air bags on street driven sports cars. Cars like Lincoln, Lexus and other manufacturers run air bags on SUV or family sedans. Air Bags do not have the capability to respond or react to bumps like a spring loaded suspension does. That was my point and I am talking about street and race cars. People running air bags on there cars I don’t care about that, but to make comparisons and state opinions in regards coilovers and air bags that are not true and I have been in motorsports, built cars for over 20 years so I do know a lot regarding suspension.

    • @mikepeace6694
      @mikepeace6694 Рік тому +23

      Apparently you know nothing about bags

    • @M3PQuicksilver
      @M3PQuicksilver Рік тому

      @@mikepeace6694 lol sure bud. Apparently you know nothing about suspension.

    • @mikepeace6694
      @mikepeace6694 Рік тому +14

      @@M3PQuicksilver know more than you do and it shows

  • @gdotone1
    @gdotone1 Рік тому +6

    I looking for a suspension where I don't feel the road at all. just like sitting in the car when it not moving, smooth. soft recoveries

    • @MrBananaPeace
      @MrBananaPeace Рік тому +1

      Bose (the speaker brand) did something with magnets, the car is practically floating. If you search Bose suspension you'll find it. I think they gave up on the project tho...

    • @Stormynight-1
      @Stormynight-1 7 місяців тому +2

      Look for something like an executive package on air lift suspension, I know on ecs tuning for my mini cooper, it’s 5k but the air ride has sensors that auto level the car so when you hit a bump it will adjust accordingly and smooth it out significantly, that’s what your after is an air ride that has auto leveling

  • @ghosttownbmw
    @ghosttownbmw 7 місяців тому +4

    How do they perform in negative degree weather?
    Thanks!

    • @Youmadmaddd
      @Youmadmaddd 6 місяців тому

      I believe you need to add some kind of anti freeze coolant into the air lines to prevent them from freezing

  • @yodrum
    @yodrum 8 місяців тому +3

    Just got bags installed on my 86 for the first time and I'm loving it so far. Just the convenience of adjusting height on the fly when I need to is great.
    Only issue I have was I wish I bought the smaller 1/4" air lines instead of the 3/8" just because airing up feels a bit jarring at first, its not as smooth or fluent as it should be. But that's just a minor complaint

    • @lov2cyanaked
      @lov2cyanaked 4 місяці тому +2

      Could always add a flow control valve to slow it down.

  • @Personalreview963
    @Personalreview963 2 місяці тому

    Hello were you able to remove the suspension system faulty sign after replacing the air suspension on cayenne 2011

  • @w00zyhead
    @w00zyhead 2 місяці тому

    How does a airbag setup measure up for off road vehicles?

  • @derekrawlins2400
    @derekrawlins2400 8 місяців тому +3

    I am seriously considering purchasing a quality air bag suspension kit for my 2017 Mini Cooper f56 hardtop. My only hesitation is that in some areas, we have really rough roads with many potholes, and I'm currently having a very rough ride over them. This is despite having a set of quality, brand-name coilovers on my car. My question is, would the air suspension hold up to the very rough roads for a daily driver?

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  8 місяців тому

      Roads here in Oklahoma are not the greatest. Matt (owner) beat on his BMW 335i on air as a daily for 5 years without issues before it turned into full toy.

    • @derekrawlins2400
      @derekrawlins2400 8 місяців тому

      @@speedhaus405 Thanks for your response.

  • @Dnasty1
    @Dnasty1 Місяць тому

    Great video. I had coilovers on my last car.. I loved the handling I got from it and spent at least 4 days in the garage a month changing the height for one reason or another so I kind of vowed to go air on my next car. I really do not want my car on the ground I just want a modest drop.. I also don't care about the quickness of rising and lowering and was wondering can these air suspensions be installed without multiple compressors and large tanks? I basically wanted to replicate the mercedes airmatic system... which I think is just aribags with a tiny pump under the hood (correct me if im wrong).

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Місяць тому +1

      @@Dnasty1 you can do a setup without multiple compressors yes. Tanks come in a variety of sizes and shapes if you shop around to accommodate what you’re looking for.

    • @Dnasty1
      @Dnasty1 Місяць тому

      Thanks my plan is just to replicate the oem Mercedes oem airmatic… possibly even placing the pump in the engine bay. Do I even need a tank or can the bags just hold the air the whole time unless I make minor adjustments? What is the major gain of all the pumps and large tanks is it only for speed purposes of releasing and refilling air?

  • @meepcheep314
    @meepcheep314 29 днів тому

    Damping* when referring to reducing vibration. dampening means to literally make something wet... only correcting because it's such a looked-over mistake that many don't know about it

  • @jamesmack7877
    @jamesmack7877 3 місяці тому

    Should I bag my rally build? 1997 sl500

  • @LP-qg7kc
    @LP-qg7kc 3 місяці тому +1

    Can we drive daily and go for long drives without any issue with air suspension? What are things need to maintain them regularly.

  • @blankslate1199
    @blankslate1199 9 місяців тому

    Airlift has had a racing league since the 70s with cars that are all on airlift suspension

  • @asappanda5118
    @asappanda5118 3 місяці тому +2

    Roll racing g35? 1000+ hp
    bags or coils

  • @stan-wl9yj
    @stan-wl9yj 4 місяці тому

    So in short, coils if youre on a budged and or if your just doing it for track, and bags if you do have a bit more to spend and you want to drove over a curb

  • @mikejames7825
    @mikejames7825 6 місяців тому

    What brand would you recommend that makes coilovers for Kia Telluride?

  • @duska3529
    @duska3529 5 місяців тому +1

    stupid question, can you help me. I want air suspension for my suv, but I want to make it in most simple way, I dont want compressor, wires and some hoses there, is possible to have air bags that can be filled/compresed with air only from outside compresor in similar way like tires for example? Just add hose and add/reduce air/ adjust ride height few times a week for my needs. Thanks for answer.

    • @czxxclzxx3754
      @czxxclzxx3754 3 місяці тому

      Stupid question indeed.... Sounds like you don't want to spend the whole price... Just get tame coil overs or get sports springs you will be more then fine

  • @kEEPITMOVIN408
    @kEEPITMOVIN408 11 місяців тому +1

    Bags for the win 🥇

  • @lucianoBOCA
    @lucianoBOCA 4 місяці тому

    Hello, I have a Toyota 86 and I am going to put air suspension on it. Are the shocks and bags air lift much superior to the godspeed? Or are they similar?

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  3 місяці тому

      @@lucianoBOCA airlift is superior in our opinion.

    • @JoeWavy
      @JoeWavy Місяць тому

      @speedhaus405 do you recommend any installers in the Dallas/Fort Worth area? I'm looking to get air ride on a 2018 Nissan Maxima for everyday drive use. Thanks 😊

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Місяць тому +1

      @@JoeWavy unfortunately only guys we knew of in that area closed. We are about 3 hours north of Dallas if you ever wanted to make the trip.

    • @JoeWavy
      @JoeWavy Місяць тому

      @ something to definitely consider. Would the job take longer than a day to install the air ride system.

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Місяць тому +1

      @ yes it would

  • @Crypt0Khan
    @Crypt0Khan Рік тому +1

    Do you think switching to bags would slow down my lap times significantly? I’ve never driven on air suspension so I have nothing to compare to. Cheers.
    (F82 m4)

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Рік тому +3

      For your application I’d stick with traditional coilovers! Cheers!

    • @Corbots80
      @Corbots80 9 місяців тому

      Of course it will decrease your performance.

  • @mikereardon
    @mikereardon 7 місяців тому

    Sweet setup. I wanna put bags on my maxima so bad.

  • @LP-qg7kc
    @LP-qg7kc Рік тому

    Do you guys work in Teslas ? How is the ride for teslas drive for model 3 performance and y ?

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Рік тому

      We’ve lowered and bagged a few. Made a big difference on the model 3. Haven’t done a model Y yet in regards to air suspension.

    • @LP-qg7kc
      @LP-qg7kc Рік тому

      I have both model 3 performance and model y performance . Does it have any issue when we close the doors and lock the car . The battery will running all the time to the compressor and any code errors will come once I close the door .

    • @LP-qg7kc
      @LP-qg7kc Рік тому

      @@speedhaus405 how is the ride and comfort with air suspension compare to coilovers from the factory one ?

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Рік тому

      @@LP-qg7kc tremendously better in our opinion.

  • @Eli-9
    @Eli-9 Рік тому +12

    Common sense would tell you that when it comes to sports cars there is no way bags can out perform coils. Bags (long term) cannot handle the abuse coils can.

    • @T0MMY561
      @T0MMY561 Рік тому +6

      Mercedes AMG GT uses bags.

    • @2jzge
      @2jzge Рік тому +9

      Funny considering all truck have bags but they can’t handle abuse?

    • @Eli-9
      @Eli-9 Рік тому +2

      @@2jzge the subject is air bags on sports cars. Tracking, racing, hard cornering, drifting ect. I doubt you do that in your truck while hauling your cute horse trailer.

    • @JPTinioMedia
      @JPTinioMedia Рік тому +15

      @@Eli-9 He's referring to semi trucks which carries more than 40,000lbs of weight..

  • @romeodogg
    @romeodogg Рік тому

    What if you want to tow a trailer..? I have a VW Passat estate and thinking about air ride. But i still want to be able to tow my golf to the track

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Рік тому +1

      As long as everything is setup properly towing can be done on air. I’ve seen it many times including Dually trucks pulling a loaded wedge all while being a inch off the ground.

    • @romeodogg
      @romeodogg Рік тому

      @@speedhaus405 That is f***ing awesome!! Thank you

  • @chrisbing841
    @chrisbing841 7 місяців тому

    What would be a good setup cor 18 tlx .daily .?

    • @Qweasd551
      @Qweasd551 5 місяців тому

      What did you end up doing I have a 18 tlx I wanna decide as well

  • @HasanBBoyBronx
    @HasanBBoyBronx 6 місяців тому

    thanks
    for insight

  • @TBone-c6f
    @TBone-c6f 4 місяці тому

    The only times springs win is if you are offroad…. Even then you are gonna need high wuality coilovers to touch air bags. I am a DH mountain biker and i run EXT springs just for that added feel and speed in the trails. Airbags on a car are king on the roads if you ask me 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @sjoaquin1567
    @sjoaquin1567 4 місяці тому

    Yea i just want that bad ass looks bags give it when i go somehwere to show i need some for my 2024 accord sport but its my daily driver

  • @dynasty_c63amg59
    @dynasty_c63amg59 Рік тому

    My bag keeps coming loose and airline is wrapping around the bag tried tightening the nut at the bottom but loose again only has 1 nut lock but on my BC coilovers it has to lock nuts to tighten it🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Рік тому

      What are you using to tighten the locking collar? Our recommendation is a punch and hammer for final lock to keep it from twisting

  • @ToddtheLoneDroner
    @ToddtheLoneDroner 10 місяців тому

    Yes?
    Air ride number one or somebody else comparable

  • @rallyk-5
    @rallyk-5 Рік тому

    How good are coil overs for everyday driving?

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Рік тому +2

      They’re great IF you buy good ones.

    • @vcrazy_diamond
      @vcrazy_diamond Рік тому +1

      Get Air Lift if you wanna daily. Avoid brands like Air Tekk because I heard they ride terrible

    • @Brandonr757sGaming
      @Brandonr757sGaming Рік тому

      ​@@vcrazy_diamonddon't spread misinformation. Airtekk makes good struts.

    • @blkeclipsel2400
      @blkeclipsel2400 9 місяців тому

      ItsKev777 like he said they are great if you get good ones but it diminishes your driving experience if they are set too low.
      Any person who has driven low knows the cons. Pulling in drive ways or clearing speed bumps at angles. Damaging your underbody or front lip. Scraping your exhaust.
      Some shrug that kind of thing off but why subject yourself to driving like that when there are alternatives? Like another commentor said, go with airlift suspension if you're daily driving and want to still enjoy the occasional spirited driving.
      You drive low on familiar streets, ride stock height on trips, lift higher than stock to clear any steep incline and slam lower than any static vehicle out there when stationary.

    • @blkeclipsel2400
      @blkeclipsel2400 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@vcrazy_diamondI've never driven on airtekk so I won't condemn them but I too have heard bad things about them.
      Your advice rings true though. Avoid cheap new entry-level air suspension and never buy used.

  • @sjoaquin1567
    @sjoaquin1567 4 місяці тому

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @jmpaull06
    @jmpaull06 Рік тому

    Here is the video Matt reference about Air vs Coilovers at the track ua-cam.com/video/7dQgT5g84ag/v-deo.html

  • @imbored3581
    @imbored3581 9 місяців тому +1

    1:50 lmaooo

  • @vevotmg9684
    @vevotmg9684 11 місяців тому +5

    Every one I know that has air ride and every car I owned with air ride the system all ways fails and it always the bag is no good

  • @Corbots80
    @Corbots80 9 місяців тому +2

    Air ride - impresses teenagers.
    Coil overs - for anyone that cares about performance

    • @cubanblanco5009
      @cubanblanco5009 Місяць тому

      Wrong , air ride is great for getting in my steep drive way without loosing my bumper in the process.

    • @Superslowjay
      @Superslowjay Місяць тому

      Trash take

  • @LP-qg7kc
    @LP-qg7kc Рік тому

    Which brand is good air lift performance and UAS air suspension? What’s the difference can you let me know . I wanna order ? But I am confused to order ?

    • @speedhaus405
      @speedhaus405  Рік тому

      Ultimately what car are you after? We are big advocates for Airlift Performance. Love the development they put into their products, customer service and warranty has always been great over the years. We can help you order. Send us a email at speedhausok@gmail.com