Read a book you don't care about so you can write an essay you don't care about so you can pass a class you don't care about. Completely ruins the point of reading.
Worse, the book is a total grind, which wouldn't be too bad if you were free to blaze through it however fast you could tolerate, but instead you have to spend half the year on this piece of slime you could have blazed through in a week and then been done with. And due to the read asignments, taking initiative to go through actually pushes you by making you sit through again material you've already seen.
Exactly I've always believed if you wanted to read a book in class in needs to be something that will get the imagination running and get them to see how it will help them, and Shakespeare while a great author Isn't going to be viewed great if the audience doesn't care which is why I've always believed in starting with comic books and graphic novels early on the build up to things like lord of the rings then let the person decide if they want to read classical works that way they learn how to read a book so the information sticks and not just to pass a test.
@@kansiwiz Exactly so how are the teachers helping you at that point if you don't remember the knowledge your supposed to have learned, I mean can you imagine if kids forgot early math like addition and subtraction as an example.
Reading in 2'nd grade: Choose a book you want to read and tell us about it next week Reading in 12'th grade: This is what you're going to read. We're going to take 4 months for it even though you could have gone through it in a week. And I'm going to force you to bullshit out at least 5 essays about symbolism and philosphy that aren't actually in there.
Brian Mead I swear teachers, professors, and any kind of “cultural establishment” like modern art museums, are part of the reason we have so many Pretentious twats running around.
That checks out. Also how teachers treat their students. In grade school I was constantly visiting the principal or teacher's room (and by "constantly" I mean literally every day, for the littlest of transgressions), while in middle school I basically only seen the principal on the first day of a year and sometimes when my usual teacher was absent. I used to paint, was an ace in biology, English _(secondary)_ and more technical subjects, like physics, but the problem was that I was never taught how to learn. By the time I finished high school _(by changing school in second year and bullshitting my way into the third year instead, because subjects I couldn't pass... were completely irrelevant)_ I had _(and still do)_ no hobbies and no... drive for social contact. Tried college, but after a semester I gave up and went working, because I was paying a 6th of my future income for nothing, but getting told what I'm supposed to learn at home, so they can test me in some way. Like... what's the fucking point?
@@LecherousLizard I can relate. In my second year of highschool I dropped out for a year for several reasons (a very extensive sequence of events took place). Looking at it now, It was the best thing I could've done at the time. It made me look at life in other ways, therefore allowing self improvement. I learned to enjoy learning again and how important it is to make your mental health the number one priority in your life. Don't get me wrong though, that didn't fix everything but it certainly helped a lot. As you said for yourself, I too have little drive for social interactions, though I don't see that as a problem anymore. I have tons of hobbies due to my love for learning and that alone makes me already satisfied with my life. Bless the internet because without it, I would have done horrible things. A good person to me is a person that respects others, pay the bills and obeys the law. The rest is completely up to you actually xD. (I didn't realize that when I was in school) I have all of that checked, and I have my happy time guaranteed, so gg boi.
Deadass. I wanted to study french all throughout high school (not necessary, but highly recommended where i live) but once i actually got into grade 9 I found that I was just doing what I had to pass the next unit test, or to read the next assignment. I was worse at french in grade 9 and 10 than I was in grade 4, when all we had to do was show up and mostly learn how to speak.
That's exactly the reason I refuse to take art classes when my mom says I should. It's just a hobby of mine and I refuse to let school ruin yet another thing for me
in third grade, i read a book, and went to my teacher to get "tested" on it so i could get my points, and she opens it up to a random page in the middle of the book and picks a random out of context sentence and reads it to me "they walked into the room bringing in a bunch of..." and looked at me indicating to complete the sentence, and i said "candy", and she said, no, it was "boxes" so i didn't get my points but they were bringing in boxes of candy
This is the reason that I hated English. Teachers put the minimum amount of effort into meaningless questions so that students can do the minimum amount of work into meaningless answers. Those students graduate. They find pointless jobs and put in the minimum amount of work required to keep their boss happy.
I'm wondering what emphasis was put into Shakespeare in English, because I'm from Germany and we did a lot of Goethe and Kafka back then, which was kinda interesting to be honest.
Kids not reading? That's nothing. In 2017, the New York board of regents voted to scrap the literacy test FOR TEACHERS. The test was seen as 'discrimanatory'.
New York is insane. Not getting hired if you aren't qualified isn't discrimination, that's common sense! And I have the damnedest feeling that they're aiming that at "discriminatory" part at minorities. I could be getting their reasoning all wrong, but that sounds awfully similar to those people that opposed voter ID because they thought it would "discriminate" against minorities. By discriminate, I mean they literally assumed blacks didn't have internet, didn't know how to use computers, didn't know how to get to the ID place/dmv, didn't have like $10 bucks to spare, (you see where I'm going with this) so voter ID was bad. Just shows they think so less of us they have to lower the bar, yet disguise it as tolerance and equality or some shit. People like that are the worst kind of discriminatory because it's so subtle I don't even think they realize the irony of their own bias. *BTW by they I don't mean all whites. Just "woke" mofos. Putting this here before I rustle any jimmies.
Bruh. If they didn't wanna be discriminatory they should've just provided equal opportunity for all of the people who wanted to teach to learn about literacy then. 😔
I remember this. It was almost all latinos and blacks that didnt pass the test if I remember correctly, maybe even 100% who didnt pass, but they needed teachers in the shit schools they would teach at.
Our teachers have NO IDEA how learning actually works. The best teachers I've ever had were those who took psych classes and understood learning. They did a lot of things different, even to the point of breaking school policy and pissing people off in order to treat us like adults and intrinsically motivate us to learn. I was lucky to have mentors like that in my life.
TRUTH. Keep going man. I am a 4th grade teacher and just subscribed. I love your stuff, not the electronics stuff because it is irrelevant to me, but to this type of stuff.
+MishuTaste maybe I'm just weird that I found math in itself interesting. But I find a good teacher can make that happen without it having to apply it to the real world. But perhaps to real life situations too (not everything in math can be used directly to gain money)
Every teacher: “You can’t just watch the movie adaptation and expect to pass the test” Every student: *watches the movie adaptation and passes the test*
That's exactly what I did in 5th grade. I was forced to read narnia(which, by the way, I fuckin hated.) I just watched the movie which was an hour and a half and saved me a couple hours of reading a book I didn't want to read.
What’s even scarier is the thought that this hatred of learning and reading might cause kids to never develop certain areas of the brain which they may never be able to develop later.
This can cause some people to become unlettered and illiterate in their later years by consciously not wanting to read, to the point that they can only read simple wordings and can't fathom what a row of words is actually saying, by proxy, making everything that they read feel like an idiom...
You’re all peasants. I read scrolls that were uncovered from the ancient crypts of Lord Pipenpadellopsicopelouse III’s archive of great celestial Knowledge
@@martalover17 yes. Because we all know, according to Dapper, his family and people have held on to this books, and many of them are in his possession in a secret room at his nightclub. I'm not crazy. It's a reference to a book series
I've read Oolon Colluphid's trilogy of philosophical blockbusters Where God Went Wrong, Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes and Who is this God Person Anyway?
Most teachers, and by most i mean nearly 99.9% of teachers, don't give a shit about actually teaching. They talk about "well rounded individuals" but most students don't read, can't tell you what a supercell is, and cannot deal with fractions at all. They can't even point out australia on a map, or even figure out basic usage of words. The public school system fails almost everyone. I had high grades in elementary school. Time i got to middle school, i fell off that wagon quick. Got to high school, and i knew less than i needed to yet again. I've learned more by just listening to videos while doing other shit than i did in most of my later "education" years. Even college falls victim to it, my mechanics classes (the in-class and not lab parts) were as dull as a rusty knife from 1700.
I read "In Cold Blood" for summer reading and absolutely loved it. I studied the themes and character development of the book, and on the day of the test I asked other classmates if they liked the book or not - I discovered that me and two other people read it. However I was the only one who flunked the test because there were questions such as these: 1. How many chapters were in the book? 2. What year was the book published? 3. What ages were the children when they were murdered? Total bullshit.
123rockfan I got banned from bringing books into class because I would read them ether when I was finished or while I was doing work... the teacher and I got into a 5 minute argument about math... something that is easy to find the correct answer because ‘she has the book’ The argument was ‘what is 60 divided by 15’ I said 4, she said 12. I had to take he fucking clock off the wall, bring it over and show her ‘60 minutes in a hour, 15 minutes per quarter hour, 4 quarters in a hour’ something my second grade teacher said... the teacher said ‘that’s time, not math’ She later held me back a grade in math and banned me from having books in any class during school. Then the teachers were shocked and complaining that I wasn’t reading books and not passing my tests because I wasn’t allowed the books I needed. And when I asked ‘can I use to write a report, I need to write about a event’ the bitch said ‘no’ and when I asked ‘why, the other people are just playing games on theirs’ she replied ‘because you have work you need to do and they’ve earned it’ The work I needed a computer for, and when I started to use my phone for it, she took it away. Couldn’t read, couldn’t actually do my work and once my eye was fucking bleeding, I couldn’t leave until my test was done and she comes back over and says to retake it because... I can’t see shit and was circling outside of the dots, she refused to give me any eye drops too.
Being down on people reading esoteric books is kind of uncool though. If you saw me on the subway you'd see me reading a book called "Speakable and Unspeakable in Quantum Mechanics: Collected Papers on Quantum Philosophy." And my copy is a ratty old copy I ordered specially from a second hand store in London. At a time when there were only about 50,000 copies in the whole world. I was reading it because *I* want to solve problems. A different set of problems to the ones you solve there Louis. But solving problems. Those people reading the ratty rare old books *might* be snobs. But they might be trying to unscrew the inscrutable, and to unravel the whichness of what.
@@puppetsock He didn't mean to belittle people who primarily read books like that. His issue is when those people react in the way he described, instead of just giving a simple response.
The thing is, i actually learn better that way! But with that being said, it's not really justifiable to cater towards only specific methods that are effective towards specific children and completely leave out ones who have other preferred methods that work best for them. I truly believe that every child is capable, they just need to discover and fully utilize what works for them and teachers especially are the ones that play one of the most critical part in their development
Most of teachers suck at explaining the usefulness of the matter they are teaching. I had (and still) an artistic mind set as a kid and hated algebra (was great at geometry), just because of the useless numbers. So I was always asking the teachers, why is algebra that important? they just answered; it's useful in many things! Years later after giving up in the science branch and oriented myself to art and literature, I started programming games as a hobby and was like: If the teacher just showed me Super Mario Bros and told me that I can program the same shit using algebra, my life would've been better than now.
But your life would not get in that particolar way if he did that. In life it is more important to learn by yourself for yourself. That way, you taste real experiences.
Man my algebra teacher once said that you can program with this.. and when we asked how he’d be upset saying no cuz were too busy.. doing more algebra.. all just for a fucking test... and I don’t remember shit from that class tbfh.. yet I aced it... wtf...
Teachers always forget that fiction novels are supposed to be like art. They are read to be interpreted by an individual, with very few finite and correct interpretations.
In elementary school i loved reading but the problem is I literally can't hear anything when i'm reading so when the teacher calls reading time is up I don't hear them and then one of two things happens I look up and everyone is doing something else and I ask what are we doing and the teacher yells at me for not paying attention or the teacher sees that I am still reading and then they come over and yell at me for "rebelling". So now I have this automatic dislike of reading that i can't get rid of.
@@plongo909 no but loud sounds like calling an end to reading time should disrupt focus and call attention to the source. On the other hand being able to ignore and block out loud background noise is very useful.
I used to hyper focus when reading as a kid. It just completely took me to another world, and the real world was just left behind. You'd have to shake me to get my attention. I can't do that any more, which is kind of a shame, but it's also good to be aware of my surroundings to the point that if someone is calling my name to ask me to do something, I actually hear them.
public school is primarily about babysitting so your mom can work. education of the child is just a lie we tell ourselves. it is of secondary importance to administrators, tax payers and society.
"...general condescending nature towards others leveraged by your own obscurities that you create for the sole purpose of belittling others" = eloquently spot on.
sounds like these drug dealers i know who think they're nerds because they play shit like D&D but have never taken a science course or worked in a science field. i put up with their bullshit because they have great "stuff"
I didn't have to read a book to to learn how to deal with difficult customers bitching and moaning about price. Plain logic is all I needed. If you can find somebody who can do the job cheaper than I can, what the hell are you doing here? There is no data stored on the devices I repair. If you can find a better elsewhere in South Africa, please go for it.
@@gandalf87264 where in SA are You? I only ask, because my GF was born in Joberg, lives in Amerika Now, and does Not want to go back because she hears Crime Bad gotten rather severe even in Kapstadt...but I would move to be there.
I had an English teacher who didn't do chapter by chapter questions. She just handed us a book and a recommended schedule for reading. At the end of it she would give us 3-5 essay topics, that you would need to know basically most of the book, and she would give like 3 days to prepare and then come essay day you would get handed one of the topics randomly. Now anyone who actually read the book would do just fine, as usually they were semi broad questions giving you wiggle room as long as you knew what was going on. People who didn't read or only sparknoted usually got shafted. That was the only English class I ever actually read the books, the rest I just used sparknotes and forms to answer the dumb questions and either bullshit or flunk the small essays and just eat the hit to my grade.
I had a class like that but still just spark noted it and got high marks. I only read one book completely that class and i got the lowest grade on that books essay lmao. That’s the problem with subjective measurements in classes, you can really just bullshit if your writing is good enough to appeal to the teacher.
he is not an idiot like you who have a hard time drawing the line between serious shit and stupid shit you are disagreeing just for the sake of it, I know deep down you can understand what Einstein meant without having to be witty assholes
I’ll never forget that one time in 6th grade... We were reading through a book about the holocaust called “once.” (No idea why 6th graders were reading books about WWII but whatever, I don’t get to question that stuff) Anyways I was actually super invested in the book and decided to read further than what we were required to that week. I thought the teachers would be proud of me for putting in extra effort. The next day, when they told us to begin reading through the next chapter in class I told the teacher that I had already read that chapter the night before. She was not happy. She got mad and started yelling at me, saying that I should’ve followed her instructions and that I was stupid for not doing so. This was all done very publicly in front of my peers. She had me sit down on my own and write a two page essay about how important it is to follow instructions and what happens when you don’t. I was a very sensitive kid, so her words cut deep. I remember feeling so lonely and dumb. I went to the bathroom to cry and ended up pretending to be sick so my mum could take me home. Teachers can be ridiculously cruel to kids at times, and we shouldn’t let them get away with that. In the wise words of my dad “Never let school get in the way of a good education” Fuck you, Ms Mac.
> Reads book about the Holocaust > Interesting, so reads more than assigned > Authority figure in complete control of a group of people publicly humiliates individual for not following instructions exactly Hmm... Where have I seen that before? I bet the irony was lost on such a low class individual like Ms.Mac.
@@doctorfeinstone6524 no idea, honestly. she’s probably still a primary school teacher. i left that school shortly after this incident and enrolled in a private school instead, which honestly wasn’t that much better. i dropped out in year 10 and enrolled in tertiary education to pursue an advanced diploma instead. i am much happier now and it’s far more comfortable for me to learn now that i don’t have to ask to use the bathroom.
In my school for booktests we have questions like "write a 100 words letter to the author about how he could've done the ending differently" or "what was the major turning point in the book"
Oh man, I'd get an F on that so fast. "The ending of Catcher in the Rye would have been better if he had been narrating from his beautiful mansion, surrounded by fields of flowers and birds. He should have been reading it to his cute 5 year-old daughter, who is listening with bated breath. There was no need to end it on such a dark note, as the rest of the book was so much happier. I think they should have held hands, wife included, and walked to the beach as the sun sets. There should have been more puppies and kittens, as well. 0/10, you didn't even try, J.D. Salinger. Sincerely, me, a high school Freshman, and expert on the affairs of writing world-famous books.
@@ewjfpoefjwoiefj We started it in second grade, and we had to set a goal (could be for anything. To learn about maths, read a book, get an A), and I chose to try to get 1000 AR points. I got about 200 that year, and was really close to it by fifth grade. I didn't get it all in second grade, obviously. Right at the beginning of fifth grade, I hit 1000. It took me a bit over 3 years, but I did it. I didn't specifically love doing the tests, but I love reaching my goals and knowing I'm getting closer to them. Also, we stopped doing AR after that. We did it a lot in 2/3/4, and then had no opportunities in 5th grade, and I never hear it mentioned by a teacher again after that
That's what fucked my English grades every 9 weeks back in the day. I was an A/B student up until it was time to tally up AR points. I liked reading non-fiction books at the time but none had tests partnered with them. It got so bad that the teachers and librarian pulled some strings and allowed me to write tests for the non-fiction books I read. I still didn't do so hot because I was a slow reader back then, but I wasn't bombing anymore. 2 years after I graduated I finally picked up a fiction book because I liked the cover, and I've enjoyed reading ever since.
I loved reading as a kid, and I still do, because no one forced me to do it and it was a great way to pass the time. Of course, that only extends to reading I do because I'm interested in. Story books, or topics I like. Funny enough, even when you really enjoy a story, you don't really remember all the dumb specifics of the story after a few months or a few years if you have a great memory. (I don't even remember the character names right a week after I just got done with this novel.) People need to make kids talk about the story, not about what so and so character did on so and so day. That isn't what the story is about. In any case, Schoolbooks though, I cannot tolerate sitting down with. Man, if you think your schools are bad, you should see the absolute obsession with marks here. You really hit the nail on the head man.
Wait, in your country they asked you about events that happened in the books? In my country they asked you to analyse themes and the use of literary device, not "what did character x do in y chapter." It was more about the meaning of the story and how it worked, not mundane pointless trivia.
Besides school you have to admit that some textbooks just suck. That's the other big problem. I really like coding but I remember having to read hundreds of pages in a textbook on C++ in grade 12. That stupid thing made something that I really liked doing so boring I ended up just reading everything I needed to know in the documentation. The documentation was a lot more entertaining and interesting lol... But the horrible teacher we had obviously didn't help. That class alone almost made me give up on school and go work at McDonald's or something.
This is why I told people that "Homeschooling is FIVE times better than public and private school would EVER do in your life....AND, you also get to know the teacher more than simply during his lunch break and class."....But I always hated school simply because of the homework....Homework freakin' sucks, and we have no solution whatsoever to counter homework....I don't know how schools are runned today, but seeing students act all aggressive towards teacher is a completely different worldview compared to what I went through school in the Early 2000s and early 2010s.
@@manganistDIMITRI except new year and wonder, oh seems like that and that person got famous, good for them. I was "babysitting", watched a comedy show??? 7pm? aaand adult jokes, we have a nice society -.-'
@@dumbdickler670 Just think adult jokes should be seperated somehow, because parents laughing but kids watching the same thing and don't get it, god that annoyed me when I was a kid.
TV is not really worth even games that are mediocre can be more fun.so that claim is more than fair,but of course old farts and guys with a stick up the ass will tell you your a loser,lazy ass,etc...
i'm in my 20's and i definitely wouldn't say that's fair. i'd probably just joke around and bust your balls about it for a minute lol. mind you i do like and play video games.
Leo Hernandez if you did that to me I’d make fun of you for watching bad tv. “Oh, you like Big Bang theory? You like being told when to laugh because the show isn’t engaging enough to actually make you genuinely laugh?”
I got a predicted A for english language and literature but come exam time I got a C for literature and A* for language, I got top marks for my mastery of the language but nothing for my opinion on the literature exam. I didn't choose the politically correct answer for "The Grass Is Singing" which is to sympathise with the main character, rather I took the stance that she is pitiable for her self imposed circumstances; judgmental and harsh but not without merit. Maybe it was sexist of me to judge a woman. The worst part of it is maybe I did it to prove a point, my teacher very kindly acknowledged by analysis but posited that the exam board likely not look at it too kindly, but he was very supportive and thought I had a case to make and should ask to be regraded. But I was right, my unusual combination of grades reflects a biased system (or my unique mental state at the time).
@@AWSMcube Please tell me you or they are being hyperbolic. I don't have much faith in the school system already, but that's just pure political indoctrination.
@@Archris17 I'm straight up not even kidding. I think I sent pictures to my dad so I know he has them, I don't have any as far as I know. The questions were something like "please explain how these new immigration rules are similar to the rules in Nazi Germany" or some other BS like that.
I loved reading in like 1st-8th grade. I read at home and I also liked to read the books we read in class, because they were interesting books with interesting stories. Then in high school, all my English teachers got super politican and the only things we ever read was race bait social justice bullshit (and this was in like 2003-2007 when that kind of stuff wasn't buzzwordy on the internet). I didn't even disagree with the message the books were trying to get across, but rather I had a problem with the "you MUST agree with me or you FAIL THE CLASS" attitude my teachers had. Now I barely ever read.
iammaxhailme hmmm... try reading The Count of Monte Cristo? That book made me extremely hopeful that I’ll be able to find more good books. I’ve been tried to find more books I enjoy lately
I hate shit like that. I'm a left leaning guy and even I have to admit that a lot of people further to the left than I are batshit crazy. The right isn't much better, but this isn't about the right. I agree with feminism. I agree with BLM. I agree with pro-choice. But my God, if you even look like you may harbor a different opinion it's like throwing chum in the water for those people on the further end of the spectrum.
High school fall 08- spring 12, every character in a book either had to be mentally ill or discriminated against. Went from knocking out 300 page books in a night, to not finishing a single forced reading book starting with the first. Haven't read books since.
Yeah, I hate those kinds of teachers and books. I always thought they were dumb as a kid, but when I actually researched the issues, I found they were much more nuanced and human than the material/teacher presented. I'm glad I did a lot of my own research so I'm not a political zealot that bows to the cult of the party, and seeks to destroy the non-believers. Political retardation is a great way to guarantee a child will grow up hating books, as well as harbor resentment towards the school system. Luckily, I found technical coding manuals I enjoyed reading, and now I'm an avid reader of all sorts. I'm currently finishing up Crime and Punishment, by Fyodor Dostoevsky. I'm glad I got back into reading, because HG Wells is great fun.
I have a collection of yellowed/brown books that I haven't read. I haven't read them because I spend more time watching TV shows online, and apparently 4 year old rants.
This is why literature courses should be pass/fail and based on discussion and free response, not on quizzing and multiple choice. Let people read and enjoy the literature, then talk and think about it and how it makes them feel and what kinds of pictures they had in their head, personally. Stop trying to boil it down to some sterile assignment. The AR program is horribly damaging. The books I remember reading as a kid and enjoying weren't tested by AR, they were things I read on my own.
I didn't specifically love AR, but i was determined to get to 1k points(got it in fifth grade after three years of trying, btw. woohoo). I love reaching my goals and reading. I would've read all of the books even if I didn't get the points. We haven't done AR since fifth grade, but I've never stopped reading, and I'm really glad about that.
I didn’t mind ar bc i loved to read, but they brought it back for a year when i was in hs and we were all pretty mad bc it took away the fun of reading
@@hipeople9856 AR just gave me a reason to read a shit ton of books. Although the books I absolutely enjoyed reading werent worth too many points despite being long ass books that took me a couple days to a week to read (I am a fast reader).
I've never had a good English teacher that made me care about the content being taught. The only teachers that made me care about what I was learning about were my History teachers.
I had some great English teachers in highschool (my junior and senior year specifically) who actually cared and connected to the class and I actually enjoyed being in their class as they didnt have all that meaningless bullshit. They actually let us interpret the material for ourselves. Hell, my senior year teacher actually got me interested in poetry, and I hate poetry. All becuase he was cultivating interest again. And junior year, she got me interested in writing. Turns out when I plan out my story with a basic framework and just let the imagination flow then I do rather well, she loved it, and anyone I show also quite liked it, despite it being rather depressing throughout. And that was all because she was a more creative teacher than the others and didnt want us to just write an essay on englands history. But all the others fucking sucked. I absolutely hated english before them, and still hate it now despite them being great teachers who did different stuff.
My social studies teacher last year used power points and spoke in a monotone voice. He was a horrible teacher. I hope I don't have another teacher like him
As a second year bachelor of music who has played music from A midsummers nights dream, this literature is extremely complex. Teachers barely understand it. It takes years of study and practice to understand the art forms. The intro that teachers give their students is laughable. Education should be introducing the kids into literature by having them watch the play (Like my college did... It felt like I was in highschool tbh). It took composers/artists decades to produce a top-hit. Years of burned music sheets before they produced something that people liked. I think George Frederick Handel was probably ready to give up before he produced his famous "Messiah" oratorio. To a certain extend some teachers are at fault, but I believe the small group who chooses the curiculum is at fault. Atleast this is the case for Western Canada.
Agreed, the only silver lining in my high school was the "shop courses" such as Electronics and Drafting cause they actually let you work with your hands and engage in a project instead of being forced fed information and asked to regurgitate it (and goodness forgive you if you have a learning disability or simple don't learn well threw reading and writing, the Education system will drag you along kicking and screaming being belittled all the way)
@@UNSCPILOT I always had a tough time retaining information that I'd just read. I literally never read my textbooks in high school and elementary because they were so fucking mind-numbing I found it impossible. This really bites me in the ass now that I'm in university since all these textbooks that are apparently so vital to success are like 800 pages of text about stuff I frankly don't care about.
Kids don't learn Shakespeare to understand plays, they learn Bill S. to learn about storytelling, and writing your own plays - which are good things to learn. Mostly though kids learn Shakespeare because it's the culture that the upper classes enjoy. Pupils would be better served by getting a book from the school library, and spending their literature classes reading whatever they want, and talking to each other, and addressing their teachers as equals, and learning from each other in the regular conversations that we're genetically programmed to have. You don't ask questions about things you don't care about, you don't monologue about something you don't care about. If kids grow up in an environment where they enjoy books and reading then they have the tools to learn throughout their life - it doesn't matter if the books aren't top-tier intellectualism or cultural classics - because a kid that reads rubbish is still better off than a kid that doesn't read.
We had to read a book for an exercise where we had to write a review about that book. We just weren't allowed to think by ourselves. The teacher even told us that we weren't even allowed to think about what we are writing because we are simply too stupid. the only thing that we were allowed to do was searching for quality reviews from that book and then writing our own exactly as it was written in those other reviews. We also get those tests where we first have to read a text and then instead of asking questions abouth the content of the text the questions were about stuff like: There is a comparison in this piece of text what word tells you they are comparing something. they constantly teach us stupid stuff like that. It is like they think that we can't even see that there is an opinion in a text unless there is this one specific word that tells us that there is an opinion.
Yeah, loved those. You're told to read a text and then you had a set of 20 questions of which maybe 3 actually had anything to do with the actual content of said text.
Here's a German trick for those kind of Hipster: "Wo ist der Bus?" "Where is the bus?" 99.99999% of the time they will stop, look at you, and ask confused: "Welcher bus?" "What bus?" This is when you unfold your masterplan and say: "Der Bus mit den Leuten die es interessiert." "The bus of people who are interested." Guaranteed to work.
I go for this: "Shhhhhh shshshhhh, listen. Listen real close, you might hear it." "Do you hear that? Do you hear that glorious sound?" "That, sir/madam, is the sound... of everybody who asked."
You know, the modern schoolsystem was developed in another time, back when most kids would grow up to work in factories. Back then the schooling system would make sense. You would read as if it was a manual, you were tought to obey, to listen not think and talk. You would learn to sit still, come on time. Learn to not follow your dreams. Be quiet and accept your life and that will make you succeed.
Louis I agree with you on what is wrong with our education system, but in my opinion I think it's not the teachers but it's the public education requirements that the teachers have to follow. both my patents are teachers and my mom would without a doubt want to do what you think they should do, but the education system won't allow her to do so
I once tried to give someone a self-help book and he said "Oh I'm not into that stuff." I explained that the author had written down his ideas because he couldn't come over and explain them in person. I love your own way of putting it, life is an open book exam - you just have to open the books! :)
I work in schools almost every week maintaining copiers and printers and setting up equipment. the shit i see teachers doing with kids just blows my mind now on the flip side the kids have ZERO RESPECT PERIOD for anyone. so parents please teach your child to respect anything but a smartphone please
and even then, working as a cellular rep I see kids still thrashing their phones around and badmouthing their mother, right in front of me! It's just frustrating anymore.
I think it cuts both ways. The teachers often have absolutely zero respect for their students and treat them like dogshit, yet are continually afraid to overstep bounds and be denounced by the children. And why should the students respect the teachers back? It's like some Kafkaesque nightmare.
I hated reading because I was taught to read with my lips (a.k.a. subvocalization) and when you're reading with your lips you can only read at a certain speed so it gets boring quickly because the information is coming in to slowly and it felt like I was getting sleepy. I think the hate for reading stems from that. It took decades for me to break myself of that nasty little habit. If kids were taught to read with their eyes and not with their mouths, by sounding out the words. I think that would solve the problem with the hatred for reading.
@Jotaro97 This is going to sound weird, but this is how I did it. Whisper to yourself in a slow steady rhythm, repeat 1-2-3, 1-2-3 over and over and as you're doing that, try to read something. There's this weird moment when you realize you're reading with your eyes instead of your mouth and once you've experienced that a few times you'll be able to do it without saying 1-2-3.
3 years old and no answer, I would bet that he's talking about this book, www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/1439167346/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1524828637&sr=1-3 It's a great book
Things that hooked me reading books because of anime and knowing something shit i didn't know that actually happened in real life like that. Yeah, being weeab made me realize books are good while my school tells me that the books that i read is *NOT PART OF STUDY* . Yeah, i fuckin hate school for a reason.
I actually used to love reading and literature up until I had to do it for GCSE’s (the British equivalent of SAT’s), where we were basically told what to read. Even when I was younger I thought writing in school was so limiting: “you’re gonna write a story about what we tell you, but you’re only goona have 500 words to write it in, and you’ll be timed.” If you ask me, it defeats the purpose of creative writing, as nothing about it is original and you’re not actually free to be *creative*. Same when teachers would ask you to write a poem about something, and whenever I would, it would feel forced and like I was doing it just for approval from my teacher. In my Secondary School now, they’ve implemented this reading program where for the first 10 minutes of each lesson the kids have to read. In my opinion, I feel that this isn’t really in the interest of the kids, but as a way to act like they actually care about our failing English in Britain. Tell me honestly that kids who don’t usually read will suddenly want to spend 50 minutes a day reading, because they won’t. We need to teach kids creativity, originality and imagination, and I think reading and writing is such a good way to do this. But this starts with giving them choice on what to read.
My experiences match what you're saying. I actually liked to read anything and everything as a child, but the school system successfully beat that out of me by turning it into such a joyless experience undertaken purely to pass. I was so sick of books from school that I had no interest in them by the time I got home. Thus, I stopped entirely. I'll still read things with useful information, sure, but I don't read actual stories anymore. Out of some 20+ teachers that I had throughout the school years... one, maybe two I could actually reflect positively on. There was a third who was likable, but in the end he literally did not teach. His classes essentially became (playful) shit-talking between him and the students. But his class was religious studies and it was more-or-less purely catholic/christian so we weren't really learning anything, anyway. I think that after the first two years, he began to realize that, himself. Hooray for the broken education system! "Happiest years of your life", my ass. Like you've said, it's like people have completely forgotten what it was like at that age. Maybe it was genuinely better for them, but it's certainly not anymore. However I will say that my college thankfully knew what the hell it was doing. Out of all of the classes and teachers I had, one class taught by one man was the only one I truly hated.
Being a geek saved my ass. In two grades some of us didn’t have books or chairs and just sat on the floor. They passed us with C’s without us doing a thing. We didn’t even have to take tests. I can only imagine what it’s like now.
I was lucky enough to have the realisation that reading makes you smart in primary school, I remember the day it hit me! We were in class talking about something or other in year 2 (British school years) and my best friend kept knowing the answers to the teachers questions and I remember myself wondering how he knows all this stuff, and then linking it to what books he read. From that day on, I started reading every book we had available in class one by one and enjoyed it so much I kept going through all the books I could get my hands on, even when I moved to the Netherlands 2 years after that I was nearly a year ahead of the class while I hardly needed to pay attention to the lessons. I finished primary school with the best exam results possible, all because I had learnt to enjoy reading and learning by myself. Id like to say that reading is what protected me from the school system's way of forcing any kind of enjoyment out of learning. To this day I prefer teaching myself through reading, watching and listening rather than have someone ask me ridiculous questions about some vague subject I'm not even interested in.
I was never good at reading. I aced all of the spelling and grammar stuff, and then why junior high came and those classes turned into literature, I was fucked. Books just don't interest me unless it's some kind of technical manual.
I’ve watched a lot of your content like this (advice/discussion as opposed to tech content) just in the past 2 days after discovering your channel. No matter how eloquent something can be written and then spoken, hearing you talk with no script and actual passion about what you’re saying is really great. I admire you and what you’ve accomplished and really just who you are as a person from watching your videos. Keep it up man!
mariomario813 Though there are some libraries that are cheap, like fxp. 15$ Yearly membership and it has over 50k books, I think. Not sure how it's for the US, though.
mariomario813 Late fees- Turn your books in on time Taxes- No idea what you're talking about there. Library card- max $15 for hundreds of books that range from $12-35
I loved reading as a kid, I think I started reading when I was 4-5, so really early. I also remember that all my friends back then listened to audio cassettes of books and I never understood that because why not just read it? In primary school I was a big fan of Harry Potter and when I had to wait for the next book to come out in my country I asked my parents for the english version even though I only knew the very basics of that language, that's how dedicated I was to read. My parents did so much right and guess what destroyed my love for reading? Yep, school. I think it started at the end of middle school and definitely in high school. The books weren't even boring but the questions and task we were forced to do made no sense at all and in my last 2 school years where I even had English and German as the equivalent of AP courses and I read not a single book I was required to. I didn't need to because I could just skim through the book with the information I got in class and nail all the tests. I hate that school made me dislike reading but it's so hard to get back into liking it after having the mindset of "it doesn't matter" for so many years.
yo for real the teacher's unions are gonna arm themselves and find this guy before he actually forces change and gets rid of their power, keep living my man.
20:00 Just bought '10 Mistakes Businesses Make- And How To Avoid Them' based on your recommendation. I've written so much stuff with grammar and spelling that sucked balls I think that won't be a problem. Thanks Louis.
In Medicine and Law, memorization is an absolute must along with a great analytical mind, you are vastly inefficient if you constantly have to look up things in these fields.
fitnesspoint2006 true. But those are fields of study that you voluntarily enter, hopefully because you desire to learn them anyway. That is very different from giving a 12 year old a hundred year old novel they couldn’t care less about and expecting them to remember details.
I agree with that in regards to Law, not in regards to Medicine. Good doctors actually understand everything that's happening and the whole body as a system. Not too different from how an engineer understands a mechanical machine. Lawyers in the other hand do depend on the minutiae of concepts that are changed and missused in the most controversial ways possible. That's a lot of memory.
But the thing is on average jobs is that the memory doesn't matter that much . And making kids answer those questions in novels is not going to really learn law terminology
I agree, how many books was I obliged to read, just because we had homework on it ... worst is, I don't remember anything from either of those 30'ish books ... but I remember so many things from Stephen Hawkings book "a brief history of time".
8:00 Holy shit i remember SRA. I had the same "problem" you did. When I was actually doing what I was supposed to be doing while everyone was just rushing to get the answers... Wow. Can relate so much to your experience.
I said this to my teachers in High School who acknowledged it and ultimately did jack shit because well usually it's not up to them. They follow a preplanned form. Now I'm much older and one thing I've decided is to gift my children books they will LIKE and there for they will enjoy reading :)
Ik you probably won't see this, but I had to subscribe because honestly, I've watched a few of your videos and you remind me so much of my dad who passed away when I was thirteen. He only ever expected the best of me, had calm discussions instead of punishing me, treated me like a human being. Like you always say we need to treat kids. Thank you so much dude. You make me feel like my dad is still with me, because a lot of the things you say sound just like the type of advice he'd have given me. And that's amazing because as an adult, I'm a parent now and after the trauma of losing him and other things I've gone through, I lost that part of me who was rational and became so depressed and angry. I'm trying so hard to fix that. But one of the biggest things that I want as a parent, is to raise my son the way my dad raised me. I've worked on myself a lot over the years, but your advice especially when it comes to children really hits home for me. Thank you Louis.
Louis Rossmann The reason that they ask the questions is 'reading comprehension'. By asking a pointed question, with a logical result, you can determine if the person reading knew the context of the question and material. Unfortunately reading comprehension isn't 'actual' reading, where you immerse yourself in the story and imagine it playing out.
The only "reading comprehension" that was ever required from me, was finding a "key" teachers used to construct tests, so I could memorize it along with questions. Except I didn't, so I barely passed those tests, while a stupid bimbo, who couldn't read even if her life depended on it, always scored 80%+ more often than not outdoing a guy whom we dubbed "walking Wikipedia", because he could almost always answer any of the teacher's questions... But you can't give a proper answer, if you don't know the damned question, eh?
I used to have an insane reading-phase during ages of 8-12. I absolutely loved reading books. But then, as I grew older, school just really took every inch of fun I ever had reading away. Nowadays I am trying to get back to it, but I never had the same fun and motivation as back then again.
I ALWAYS hated reading in school. Funnily enough, once I got out of school, I started reading on my own and enjoying it... There was a book that I read, it has about 355 pages. I was SO into it, that I finished it in about 3 days (not constant reading. Few hours here and there throughout those days). I just freaking loved that book. I think the reason why I hated reading so much was because there was always a test on it and the books fucking sucked. It didn't help too that I was a massive procrastinator who always left things at the last minute so I'd always find myself force-reading these shitty books the night before the test. And also your points about how teachers do just the bare minimum to get on with their lives. I felt that. I have thought about going into Education so I can teach kids/teens better so they don't come out to be as losers or like robotic test-approved type bullshit. I want future generations to go beyond. To actually LEARN and UNDERSTAND things in life, not to prepare for tests and then forget all about it after it's done. Maybe I'll go into teaching once I've done my career in another field.
Reading is one of the most beautiful things you can do in life. It connects you to the author's mind. It's really transcendent. When I was in school it was such a robotic task. I never fully grasped the level of mental and emotional depth reading can bring. I'm 23 now and only started seriously reading books 2 years ago when a friend in college recommended some. Now, I stopped watching TV shows (TV is garbage anyways, just mass social engineering) and started reading and it's like my brain actually works now. It's so much easier to learn and retain information I learn from reading plus I've noticed a general increase in my short and long-term memory, my ability to express ideas (expansion of concepts and vocabulary) and the ability to understand others.
+Louis Rossmann Makes sense, i hated reading in school but and during 1st year in high school i didn't read at all, i just read summaries few hours before the exam at 6 am. then once one of this "must-read" books were really interesting so i read it and i enjoyed it, why i read it? i enjoyed reading summary, i passed the test with 80% correct answers and got interested in the book so i read it and i was interesting then i read but what really made me stop reading were stupid questions "what author meant to say", bitch you don't know what he meant to say, i can interpret it like i want as long as it makes sense and is logical and in high school my teacher knew that so he convinced me to read the books again. i read shakespear again and it was much better and now when i think about it shakespear isn't so great. It was entertaining to see it in theatre to enjoy how actors play it but story sucks to me. (kinda like blockbuster movies). Now i don't have much time to read so when i have like 1 hour that i can spend for reading, fine but then it's difficult to go back to it just for another hour, like watching tv series but every episode is 10 minutes long, still i can enjoy it so it's fine i guess. english isn't my main tongue and i hope it makes sense.
I remember having to read a book and write down a shortenned version of it. I procrastinated and tried reading it all in one sitting, but it was simply too boring. I just read a quarter of it, shortenned it and just bullshitted an ending to it. I always thought my literature teacher was a strict woman, but judging on the fact that I got full grade for that made me see that it wasn't true.
I went to barns and nobles in Queens, NY. For such things and as you said I read bc I ENJOYED it not bc I needed. One time I forgot about a book report 4th grade... I read the back and wrote it and got an A because it answered all the questions LOL.. I love your logical rants. Also sry for putting messages on old posts.. mostly for me to feel Better -less I give a darn that anyone actually reads it even you. Just feels better I put it out there, but really thx for your effort on all the videos. Some are amusing and others show me notnbad point of views I can think upon and didnt realize in such detail. Thanks man for putting your effort in.
I remember back in my Junior year, I was intrigued by Lord of the Flies and decided to read it on my own time, and it's still to this day one of my absolute favorite novels of all time! The only other people I knew who read it had to read it for school work, and everyone I knew that had to read it hated the book. Thank you education, you have butchered literature
I love reading. My mum took me to loads of great libraries. I would frequently read while walking on the road. Try to sneak a book into the bath. Read a book during class in primary school. All kinds of stuff.
I remember a book that I read where the questions for the book were things where an event happened multiple times. Also one of the questions were something like “how did he know when there was a fish on the line?” One of the answers was something like the line moved and another answer was like the line trembled. Those questions are the worst. There’s also dumb Study Island for LA. I’ve never learned real LA skills from it. I’ve learned the answer it wants and I put that so that I can get a good grade. Also most of the questions were highly opinionated.
Wow I had that expireance with apple. The guy said you MAY loose some data. I ended loosing all my data. I’m loving your videos. I’m gonna watch them to prevent future mistakes. Here’s some suggestions for school reading questions- “Was this character truly good?”, “Was this character truly evil?”, “Why does this character do what they do, is it understandable?”, “What character do you think was right?”, “Was this book good?” My school is actually pretty good compared to most places.
20:00 I just purchased the book. Thank you for the recommendation. I am significantly older than you, and with several other people, I run a company with 400+ employees. You are special in that your photographic memory of your early years have allowed you to analyse those times with the wisdom and experience of the current you. Your sharing of these opinions are appreciated and frankly will shape how I raise my kids. Respect.
I just finished reading the great gatsby for a school thing and after i submit my assignment i see this video in my recommended and it made me realize that the hardest thing for me doing the assignments was the fact that i was enjoying the book so much i forgot to remember the questions i had to answer and thats where all the pain came from. im glad i came across this video and your channel a while ago.
A lot of this comes from policy, though. Schools are judged by how well children do at tests - some times teachers' salaries, or even their jobs, depend on it too. This is especially true for schools in low-income neighborhoods. Watch the fourth season of the Wire if you don't want to read a book about it :)
Oh my gosh, I read the title of this video and immediately thought about the trauma of SRA! I do remember enjoying the short stories at the beginning but then I realised I had to catch up with my classmates. I was actually failing English class because of this and just accepted that I was just dumb in reading so I hated reading for most of my school years. What changed it for me was that one summer break after 3rd year highschool, I was stuck at my grandma's house with no technology and spent the day literally just staring at nothing. After the 3rd day, I cracked it and looked for something to do. There was only books. I started reading and by the end of the summer I already finished around 10 books. Since then I loved reading and thankful that this turning point happened to me. Also as a side note: While growing up, I realised I had a different way of looking at things and situations from most people. So the reading comprehension part at school really didn't work well with me.
Read a book you don't care about so you can write an essay you don't care about so you can pass a class you don't care about. Completely ruins the point of reading.
Worse, the book is a total grind, which wouldn't be too bad if you were free to blaze through it however fast you could tolerate, but instead you have to spend half the year on this piece of slime you could have blazed through in a week and then been done with. And due to the read asignments, taking initiative to go through actually pushes you by making you sit through again material you've already seen.
Exactly I've always believed if you wanted to read a book in class in needs to be something that will get the imagination running and get them to see how it will help them, and Shakespeare while a great author Isn't going to be viewed great if the audience doesn't care which is why I've always believed in starting with comic books and graphic novels early on the build up to things like lord of the rings then let the person decide if they want to read classical works that way they learn how to read a book so the information sticks and not just to pass a test.
Then you end up forgetting that class in its entirety and not actually using any of that knowledge in the real world.
@@kansiwiz Exactly so how are the teachers helping you at that point if you don't remember the knowledge your supposed to have learned, I mean can you imagine if kids forgot early math like addition and subtraction as an example.
So you can get a job you don't care about*
>throws tweezers in a fit of rage
>complains in later videos all his tweezers are broken
Good shit.
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@@xavi.cat.4095 Here, have a reply.
@@lifeontheledgerlines8394 *tosses comment*
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Reading in 2'nd grade: Choose a book you want to read and tell us about it next week
Reading in 12'th grade: This is what you're going to read. We're going to take 4 months for it even though you could have gone through it in a week. And I'm going to force you to bullshit out at least 5 essays about symbolism and philosphy that aren't actually in there.
This shit is the reason I almost failed high school.
And you better hope it aligns with your graders views
Brian Mead I swear teachers, professors, and any kind of “cultural establishment” like modern art museums, are part of the reason we have so many Pretentious twats running around.
Brian Mead you hit the nail on the head there
But they are there wth
School ruins not only the interest for books, but the interest for everything else as well.
That checks out.
Also how teachers treat their students. In grade school I was constantly visiting the principal or teacher's room (and by "constantly" I mean literally every day, for the littlest of transgressions), while in middle school I basically only seen the principal on the first day of a year and sometimes when my usual teacher was absent.
I used to paint, was an ace in biology, English _(secondary)_ and more technical subjects, like physics, but the problem was that I was never taught how to learn. By the time I finished high school _(by changing school in second year and bullshitting my way into the third year instead, because subjects I couldn't pass... were completely irrelevant)_ I had _(and still do)_ no hobbies and no... drive for social contact.
Tried college, but after a semester I gave up and went working, because I was paying a 6th of my future income for nothing, but getting told what I'm supposed to learn at home, so they can test me in some way.
Like... what's the fucking point?
@@LecherousLizard I can relate. In my second year of highschool I dropped out for a year for several reasons (a very extensive sequence of events took place). Looking at it now, It was the best thing I could've done at the time. It made me look at life in other ways, therefore allowing self improvement. I learned to enjoy learning again and how important it is to make your mental health the number one priority in your life. Don't get me wrong though, that didn't fix everything but it certainly helped a lot. As you said for yourself, I too have little drive for social interactions, though I don't see that as a problem anymore. I have tons of hobbies due to my love for learning and that alone makes me already satisfied with my life. Bless the internet because without it, I would have done horrible things.
A good person to me is a person that respects others, pay the bills and obeys the law. The rest is completely up to you actually xD. (I didn't realize that when I was in school)
I have all of that checked, and I have my happy time guaranteed, so gg boi.
Carl Stevens art class made me hate what I love
Deadass. I wanted to study french all throughout high school (not necessary, but highly recommended where i live) but once i actually got into grade 9 I found that I was just doing what I had to pass the next unit test, or to read the next assignment. I was worse at french in grade 9 and 10 than I was in grade 4, when all we had to do was show up and mostly learn how to speak.
That's exactly the reason I refuse to take art classes when my mom says I should. It's just a hobby of mine and I refuse to let school ruin yet another thing for me
in third grade, i read a book, and went to my teacher to get "tested" on it so i could get my points, and she opens it up to a random page in the middle of the book and picks a random out of context sentence and reads it to me "they walked into the room bringing in a bunch of..." and looked at me indicating to complete the sentence, and i said "candy", and she said, no, it was "boxes"
so i didn't get my points
but they were bringing in boxes of candy
shitty teacher, not a cooking clue about the way books really impact you.
Your teacher deserves a good assbeating for that shit
Oh hell if that was me I woulda taken the book back and read the full sentence back to her and demanded the points.
Aardbei lol
That...is not how reading works...
This is the reason that I hated English.
Teachers put the minimum amount of effort into meaningless questions so that students can do the minimum amount of work into meaningless answers. Those students graduate. They find pointless jobs and put in the minimum amount of work required to keep their boss happy.
I'm wondering what emphasis was put into Shakespeare in English, because I'm from Germany and we did a lot of Goethe and Kafka back then, which was kinda interesting to be honest.
@@butterflyfilms939 pretty much every American that's gone to school will have studied Shakespeare; I don't know about other countries.
Yep!
But these same teacher's want higher pay for a shit show of a job performance.
And then become real estate agents.
@@AC3handle bahahahahahahahahaha
Kids not reading? That's nothing. In 2017, the New York board of regents voted to scrap the literacy test FOR TEACHERS. The test was seen as 'discrimanatory'.
Yikes
No shit?!
New York is insane. Not getting hired if you aren't qualified isn't discrimination, that's common sense! And I have the damnedest feeling that they're aiming that at "discriminatory" part at minorities. I could be getting their reasoning all wrong, but that sounds awfully similar to those people that opposed voter ID because they thought it would "discriminate" against minorities. By discriminate, I mean they literally assumed blacks didn't have internet, didn't know how to use computers, didn't know how to get to the ID place/dmv, didn't have like $10 bucks to spare, (you see where I'm going with this) so voter ID was bad.
Just shows they think so less of us they have to lower the bar, yet disguise it as tolerance and equality or some shit. People like that are the worst kind of discriminatory because it's so subtle I don't even think they realize the irony of their own bias.
*BTW by they I don't mean all whites. Just "woke" mofos. Putting this here before I rustle any jimmies.
Bruh. If they didn't wanna be discriminatory they should've just provided equal opportunity for all of the people who wanted to teach to learn about literacy then. 😔
I remember this. It was almost all latinos and blacks that didnt pass the test if I remember correctly, maybe even 100% who didnt pass, but they needed teachers in the shit schools they would teach at.
Our teachers have NO IDEA how learning actually works. The best teachers I've ever had were those who took psych classes and understood learning. They did a lot of things different, even to the point of breaking school policy and pissing people off in order to treat us like adults and intrinsically motivate us to learn. I was lucky to have mentors like that in my life.
+Saphirefenix the teachers that treat kids like adults rather than like prisoners often do best
Definitely. Loving your channel man. Knowing people like you exist out there makes me feel less alone haha.
TRUTH. Keep going man. I am a 4th grade teacher and just subscribed. I love your stuff, not the electronics stuff because it is irrelevant to me, but to this type of stuff.
I find the teachers that treated me like an adult was the worse one I've had. That's the last thing I need...
+MishuTaste maybe I'm just weird that I found math in itself interesting. But I find a good teacher can make that happen without it having to apply it to the real world. But perhaps to real life situations too (not everything in math can be used directly to gain money)
Every teacher: “You can’t just watch the movie adaptation and expect to pass the test”
Every student: *watches the movie adaptation and passes the test*
@yoka The teacher watched the movie instead of reading the book.
same
You predicted the "You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of mars" meme.
That's exactly what I did in 5th grade. I was forced to read narnia(which, by the way, I fuckin hated.) I just watched the movie which was an hour and a half and saved me a couple hours of reading a book I didn't want to read.
I never read a mandatory book and i passed the tests xD
What’s even scarier is the thought that this hatred of learning and reading might cause kids to never develop certain areas of the brain which they may never be able to develop later.
oh God imagine the crisis years later.
this already has happened for generations
Ziad that was great
This can cause some people to become unlettered and illiterate in their later years by consciously not wanting to read, to the point that they can only read simple wordings and can't fathom what a row of words is actually saying, by proxy, making everything that they read feel like an idiom...
If you got rid of social media and video games we may have a chance of preventing this.
You’re all peasants. I read scrolls that were uncovered from the ancient crypts of Lord Pipenpadellopsicopelouse III’s archive of great celestial Knowledge
_I've read books from the Library of Alexandria-_
@@martalover17 yes. Because we all know, according to Dapper, his family and people have held on to this books, and many of them are in his possession in a secret room at his nightclub.
I'm not crazy. It's a reference to a book series
I've read Oolon Colluphid's trilogy of philosophical blockbusters Where God Went Wrong, Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes and Who is this God Person Anyway?
@@MURDR63 _basic_
I, the almighty ruler of this land, have read Harry Potter
Noobs, I have read caveman writings
Most teachers, and by most i mean nearly 99.9% of teachers, don't give a shit about actually teaching. They talk about "well rounded individuals" but most students don't read, can't tell you what a supercell is, and cannot deal with fractions at all. They can't even point out australia on a map, or even figure out basic usage of words. The public school system fails almost everyone. I had high grades in elementary school. Time i got to middle school, i fell off that wagon quick. Got to high school, and i knew less than i needed to yet again. I've learned more by just listening to videos while doing other shit than i did in most of my later "education" years. Even college falls victim to it, my mechanics classes (the in-class and not lab parts) were as dull as a rusty knife from 1700.
You probably won’t see this but can I ask how old you are because most teachers where I go to currently give a shit
Gunner Ginn are you older me? Haha
@@suf1an658 depends a lot on the area too and how much money goes into the schools
So that explains the conspiracy about Australia not actually existing!
nopushbutton actually I just realised I go to one of the best public schools in the England
I know shit all about most schools
I read "In Cold Blood" for summer reading and absolutely loved it. I studied the themes and character development of the book, and on the day of the test I asked other classmates if they liked the book or not - I discovered that me and two other people read it. However I was the only one who flunked the test because there were questions such as these:
1. How many chapters were in the book?
2. What year was the book published?
3. What ages were the children when they were murdered?
Total bullshit.
+123rockfan amen
123rockfan
I got banned from bringing books into class because I would read them ether when I was finished or while I was doing work... the teacher and I got into a 5 minute argument about math... something that is easy to find the correct answer because ‘she has the book’
The argument was ‘what is 60 divided by 15’ I said 4, she said 12.
I had to take he fucking clock off the wall, bring it over and show her ‘60 minutes in a hour, 15 minutes per quarter hour, 4 quarters in a hour’ something my second grade teacher said... the teacher said ‘that’s time, not math’
She later held me back a grade in math and banned me from having books in any class during school.
Then the teachers were shocked and complaining that I wasn’t reading books and not passing my tests because I wasn’t allowed the books I needed.
And when I asked ‘can I use to write a report, I need to write about a event’ the bitch said ‘no’ and when I asked ‘why, the other people are just playing games on theirs’ she replied ‘because you have work you need to do and they’ve earned it’ The work I needed a computer for, and when I started to use my phone for it, she took it away.
Couldn’t read, couldn’t actually do my work and once my eye was fucking bleeding, I couldn’t leave until my test was done and she comes back over and says to retake it because... I can’t see shit and was circling outside of the dots, she refused to give me any eye drops too.
@@silent_stalker3687 that's a shit teacher, probably violating school policies, sue her.
123rockfan man those are true bullshit questions
Silent_Stalker Holy shit that teacher is on a whole other level of stupid
I don't watch TV. I enlighten myself by watching repairmen on youtube.
Lighting Fast VCR Repair
@@bravovince3070 ua-cam.com/video/MGx-3t8CJ-k/v-deo.html
This hits too close to home.
And it works like a fucking charm
I like your personality. You’re real and straight to the point. No bullshiting.
Being down on people reading esoteric books is kind of uncool though. If you saw me on the subway you'd see me reading a book called "Speakable and Unspeakable in Quantum Mechanics: Collected Papers on Quantum Philosophy." And my copy is a ratty old copy I ordered specially from a second hand store in London. At a time when there were only about 50,000 copies in the whole world. I was reading it because *I* want to solve problems. A different set of problems to the ones you solve there Louis. But solving problems. Those people reading the ratty rare old books *might* be snobs. But they might be trying to unscrew the inscrutable, and to unravel the whichness of what.
@@puppetsock He didn't mean to belittle people who primarily read books like that. His issue is when those people react in the way he described, instead of just giving a simple response.
I got you up to 666 likes
@@puppetsock yep, you are exactly the kind of person he was talking about.
@@puppetsock well it sounds interesting
My teachers don't teach. They give us examples then we "try" to learn the material on our own.
my physics class in a nutshell
The thing is, i actually learn better that way! But with that being said, it's not really justifiable to cater towards only specific methods that are effective towards specific children and completely leave out ones who have other preferred methods that work best for them. I truly believe that every child is capable, they just need to discover and fully utilize what works for them and teachers especially are the ones that play one of the most critical part in their development
Most of teachers suck at explaining the usefulness of the matter they are teaching. I had (and still) an artistic mind set as a kid and hated algebra (was great at geometry), just because of the useless numbers. So I was always asking the teachers, why is algebra that important? they just answered; it's useful in many things!
Years later after giving up in the science branch and oriented myself to art and literature, I started programming games as a hobby and was like: If the teacher just showed me Super Mario Bros and told me that I can program the same shit using algebra, my life would've been better than now.
But your life would not get in that particolar way if he did that. In life it is more important to learn by yourself for yourself. That way, you taste real experiences.
ToG GDR he'd get to this point quicker. Just because this experience helped him, doesn't mean it couldn't have been better.
Man my algebra teacher once said that you can program with this.. and when we asked how he’d be upset saying no cuz were too busy.. doing more algebra.. all just for a fucking test... and I don’t remember shit from that class tbfh.. yet I aced it... wtf...
Pretty much mate. It’s not fucking hard for them.
what does algebra have to do with programming mario?
Teachers always forget that fiction novels are supposed to be like art. They are read to be interpreted by an individual, with very few finite and correct interpretations.
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In elementary school i loved reading but the problem is I literally can't hear anything when i'm reading so when the teacher calls reading time is up I don't hear them and then one of two things happens I look up and everyone is doing something else and I ask what are we doing and the teacher yells at me for not paying attention or the teacher sees that I am still reading and then they come over and yell at me for "rebelling". So now I have this automatic dislike of reading that i can't get rid of.
Mandy _ indeed.
I wish I had that kind of focus. I can't read if my sister is screaming in the next room. It's very difficult to find quiet time to read.
"you weren't paying attention" are you suppose to pay attention to every little sound when you are doing something completely different?
@@plongo909 no but loud sounds like calling an end to reading time should disrupt focus and call attention to the source.
On the other hand being able to ignore and block out loud background noise is very useful.
I used to hyper focus when reading as a kid. It just completely took me to another world, and the real world was just left behind. You'd have to shake me to get my attention.
I can't do that any more, which is kind of a shame, but it's also good to be aware of my surroundings to the point that if someone is calling my name to ask me to do something, I actually hear them.
public school is primarily about babysitting so your mom can work. education of the child is just a lie we tell ourselves. it is of secondary importance to administrators, tax payers and society.
Yea, public schools only focuses on sports instead of anything else.
Makes me upset since I figured that out during my senior year and it contributed to my depression.
Thank God I'm out.
I mean...I learned math and such that helps...at a public school...so
@mozak plesa oh oh the horror that must be
your tax money at work.
"...general condescending nature towards others leveraged by your own obscurities that you create for the sole purpose of belittling others" = eloquently spot on.
Drives me nuts.
sounds like these drug dealers i know who think they're nerds because they play shit like D&D but have never taken a science course or worked in a science field. i put up with their bullshit because they have great "stuff"
I didn't have to read a book to to learn how to deal with difficult customers bitching and moaning about price. Plain logic is all I needed. If you can find somebody who can do the job cheaper than I can, what the hell are you doing here? There is no data stored on the devices I repair. If you can find a better elsewhere in South Africa, please go for it.
@@gandalf87264 where in SA are You? I only ask, because my GF was born in Joberg, lives in Amerika Now, and does Not want to go back because she hears Crime Bad gotten rather severe even in Kapstadt...but I would move to be there.
@@nyxi2189 I believe that they're geeks, not nerds.
I had an English teacher who didn't do chapter by chapter questions. She just handed us a book and a recommended schedule for reading. At the end of it she would give us 3-5 essay topics, that you would need to know basically most of the book, and she would give like 3 days to prepare and then come essay day you would get handed one of the topics randomly. Now anyone who actually read the book would do just fine, as usually they were semi broad questions giving you wiggle room as long as you knew what was going on. People who didn't read or only sparknoted usually got shafted. That was the only English class I ever actually read the books, the rest I just used sparknotes and forms to answer the dumb questions and either bullshit or flunk the small essays and just eat the hit to my grade.
I had a class like that but still just spark noted it and got high marks. I only read one book completely that class and i got the lowest grade on that books essay lmao. That’s the problem with subjective measurements in classes, you can really just bullshit if your writing is good enough to appeal to the teacher.
“Never memorize something that you can look up.”
― Albert Einstein
Take an online course! =)
he is not an idiot like you who have a hard time drawing the line between serious shit and stupid shit
you are disagreeing just for the sake of it, I know deep down you can understand what Einstein meant without having to be witty assholes
you responded to a two year old comment. that means you are basically shouting at a wall.
@@TANMAN9095 be quiet your comment is SO 4 months ago
But having to look up a quote, statistic etc while having a conversation with someone face to face isn't exactly the most productive thing
I’ll never forget that one time in 6th grade... We were reading through a book about the holocaust called “once.” (No idea why 6th graders were reading books about WWII but whatever, I don’t get to question that stuff) Anyways I was actually super invested in the book and decided to read further than what we were required to that week. I thought the teachers would be proud of me for putting in extra effort. The next day, when they told us to begin reading through the next chapter in class I told the teacher that I had already read that chapter the night before. She was not happy.
She got mad and started yelling at me, saying that I should’ve followed her instructions and that I was stupid for not doing so. This was all done very publicly in front of my peers. She had me sit down on my own and write a two page essay about how important it is to follow instructions and what happens when you don’t.
I was a very sensitive kid, so her words cut deep. I remember feeling so lonely and dumb. I went to the bathroom to cry and ended up pretending to be sick so my mum could take me home.
Teachers can be ridiculously cruel to kids at times, and we shouldn’t let them get away with that. In the wise words of my dad “Never let school get in the way of a good education”
Fuck you, Ms Mac.
> Reads book about the Holocaust
> Interesting, so reads more than assigned
> Authority figure in complete control of a group of people publicly humiliates individual for not following instructions exactly
Hmm... Where have I seen that before? I bet the irony was lost on such a low class individual like Ms.Mac.
I see this is an old comment but....we need updates! What became of miss Mac?
@@doctorfeinstone6524 no idea, honestly. she’s probably still a primary school teacher. i left that school shortly after this incident and enrolled in a private school instead, which honestly wasn’t that much better. i dropped out in year 10 and enrolled in tertiary education to pursue an advanced diploma instead. i am much happier now and it’s far more comfortable for me to learn now that i don’t have to ask to use the bathroom.
@@teclinsoro4523 primary school teachers aren’t the smartest that’s why they teach primary school
Woulda told her to eat my ass and not wrote shit. NEVER apologize for going the extra mile.
knowledge is nothing without critical thinking, just like a hard drive can't do much without a CPU
FreeSheep I was looking for your comment
that's a really good analogy
Pepe profile pic nice one intellectual
@@cyberzangoose16
Pepe pfp + clever comment = big brain boi
That's a decent analogy
I like it
"Shakespear Did Not Intend For His Work To Be Used To Torture Minors"
- Louis Rossmann, 2019
(The video is from 2014)
@@solomonthekaijudemon344 Oh damn. You're right lol
@@criticaltexan2334 69th 👍
In my school for booktests we have questions like "write a 100 words letter to the author about how he could've done the ending differently" or "what was the major turning point in the book"
Derkades so easy to answer... _any_ book is better with flaming chainsaws. Ask Danger 5.
So that's how those Internet critics and analysts are made! :q
Oh man, I'd get an F on that so fast.
"The ending of Catcher in the Rye would have been better if he had been narrating from his beautiful mansion, surrounded by fields of flowers and birds. He should have been reading it to his cute 5 year-old daughter, who is listening with bated breath. There was no need to end it on such a dark note, as the rest of the book was so much happier. I think they should have held hands, wife included, and walked to the beach as the sun sets. There should have been more puppies and kittens, as well.
0/10, you didn't even try, J.D. Salinger. Sincerely, me, a high school Freshman, and expert on the affairs of writing world-famous books.
That's nothing...for my assignment I had to write a letter to an alien on why it should read it
Rudra Singh
"Dear Alien,
We ask you to read [book] or we'll nuke your home planet.
Sincerely,
The UN"
Reading testing is dumb. We used to have accelerated reader and we had to reach point quotas, not even class readings.
I hate AR so much!
@@ewjfpoefjwoiefj We started it in second grade, and we had to set a goal (could be for anything. To learn about maths, read a book, get an A), and I chose to try to get 1000 AR points. I got about 200 that year, and was really close to it by fifth grade. I didn't get it all in second grade, obviously. Right at the beginning of fifth grade, I hit 1000. It took me a bit over 3 years, but I did it. I didn't specifically love doing the tests, but I love reaching my goals and knowing I'm getting closer to them. Also, we stopped doing AR after that. We did it a lot in 2/3/4, and then had no opportunities in 5th grade, and I never hear it mentioned by a teacher again after that
I have a trophy from getting 200 AR points in like 6th or 7th grade
FUCK AR.
That's what fucked my English grades every 9 weeks back in the day. I was an A/B student up until it was time to tally up AR points. I liked reading non-fiction books at the time but none had tests partnered with them. It got so bad that the teachers and librarian pulled some strings and allowed me to write tests for the non-fiction books I read. I still didn't do so hot because I was a slow reader back then, but I wasn't bombing anymore. 2 years after I graduated I finally picked up a fiction book because I liked the cover, and I've enjoyed reading ever since.
This video reminds me of the numberphile video "why do people hate mathematics" -it's the same point
Don't shit mathletics
I loved reading as a kid, and I still do, because no one forced me to do it and it was a great way to pass the time.
Of course, that only extends to reading I do because I'm interested in. Story books, or topics I like.
Funny enough, even when you really enjoy a story, you don't really remember all the dumb specifics of the story after a few months or a few years if you have a great memory. (I don't even remember the character names right a week after I just got done with this novel.)
People need to make kids talk about the story, not about what so and so character did on so and so day. That isn't what the story is about.
In any case, Schoolbooks though, I cannot tolerate sitting down with.
Man, if you think your schools are bad, you should see the absolute obsession with marks here.
You really hit the nail on the head man.
Wait, in your country they asked you about events that happened in the books? In my country they asked you to analyse themes and the use of literary device, not "what did character x do in y chapter." It was more about the meaning of the story and how it worked, not mundane pointless trivia.
talk about poland, shitty ways to teach people and we also have even worst books then the americans have
Besides school you have to admit that some textbooks just suck. That's the other big problem.
I really like coding but
I remember having to read hundreds of pages in a textbook on C++ in grade 12. That stupid thing made something that I really liked doing so boring I ended up just reading everything I needed to know in the documentation. The documentation was a lot more entertaining and interesting lol...
But the horrible teacher we had obviously didn't help. That class alone almost made me give up on school and go work at McDonald's or something.
I agree that a lot of textbooks are trash.
A PROGRAMING TEXTBOOK
Just why
"Humanity is evolving, just backwords"
This is why I told people that "Homeschooling is FIVE times better than public and private school would EVER do in your life....AND, you also get to know the teacher more than simply during his lunch break and class."....But I always hated school simply because of the homework....Homework freakin' sucks, and we have no solution whatsoever to counter homework....I don't know how schools are runned today, but seeing students act all aggressive towards teacher is a completely different worldview compared to what I went through school in the Early 2000s and early 2010s.
again, I have to say, you really have an great understanding of young people and their issues. You could have been a good therapist, btw...
+anthony wrifford thank you
I don't watch TV because I only watch UA-cam.
I do that too, but I also watch anime occasionally. Havent watched TV for like 5 or more years.
@@manganistDIMITRI except new year and wonder, oh seems like that and that person got famous, good for them. I was "babysitting", watched a comedy show??? 7pm? aaand adult jokes, we have a nice society -.-'
I have an equal ballance between the two.
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 not sure I understand the issue
@@dumbdickler670 Just think adult jokes should be seperated somehow, because parents laughing but kids watching the same thing and don't get it, god that annoyed me when I was a kid.
i ALWAYS say " I don't watch tv, I just play video games" and most people seem to agree that that's fair :p
Adam Rabah Same here. I just play games and do what I need to.
TV is not really worth even games that are mediocre can be more fun.so that claim is more than fair,but of course old farts and guys with a stick up the ass will tell you your a loser,lazy ass,etc...
i'm in my 20's and i definitely wouldn't say that's fair. i'd probably just joke around and bust your balls about it for a minute lol. mind you i do like and play video games.
Leo Hernandez if you did that to me I’d make fun of you for watching bad tv. “Oh, you like Big Bang theory? You like being told when to laugh because the show isn’t engaging enough to actually make you genuinely laugh?”
@@lexbaldwin5613 hahahaha haha "applause"
I got a predicted A for english language and literature but come exam time I got a C for literature and A* for language, I got top marks for my mastery of the language but nothing for my opinion on the literature exam. I didn't choose the politically correct answer for "The Grass Is Singing" which is to sympathise with the main character, rather I took the stance that she is pitiable for her self imposed circumstances; judgmental and harsh but not without merit. Maybe it was sexist of me to judge a woman.
The worst part of it is maybe I did it to prove a point, my teacher very kindly acknowledged by analysis but posited that the exam board likely not look at it too kindly, but he was very supportive and thought I had a case to make and should ask to be regraded. But I was right, my unusual combination of grades reflects a biased system (or my unique mental state at the time).
lmao reminds me of the time my teacher last year told the class to write about how new immigration rules were similar to nazi germany
I wonder if you share my thoughts about To Kill a Mockingbird.
@@AWSMcube Please tell me you or they are being hyperbolic. I don't have much faith in the school system already, but that's just pure political indoctrination.
@@Archris17 I'm straight up not even kidding. I think I sent pictures to my dad so I know he has them, I don't have any as far as I know. The questions were something like "please explain how these new immigration rules are similar to the rules in Nazi Germany" or some other BS like that.
@@AWSMcube PLEASE tell me you filled in two words for that shit: "They aren't."
I loved reading in like 1st-8th grade. I read at home and I also liked to read the books we read in class, because they were interesting books with interesting stories.
Then in high school, all my English teachers got super politican and the only things we ever read was race bait social justice bullshit (and this was in like 2003-2007 when that kind of stuff wasn't buzzwordy on the internet). I didn't even disagree with the message the books were trying to get across, but rather I had a problem with the "you MUST agree with me or you FAIL THE CLASS" attitude my teachers had. Now I barely ever read.
If biases of politics get into my education I'm screwed.
iammaxhailme hmmm... try reading The Count of Monte Cristo? That book made me extremely hopeful that I’ll be able to find more good books. I’ve been tried to find more books I enjoy lately
I hate shit like that. I'm a left leaning guy and even I have to admit that a lot of people further to the left than I are batshit crazy. The right isn't much better, but this isn't about the right.
I agree with feminism. I agree with BLM. I agree with pro-choice. But my God, if you even look like you may harbor a different opinion it's like throwing chum in the water for those people on the further end of the spectrum.
High school fall 08- spring 12, every character in a book either had to be mentally ill or discriminated against. Went from knocking out 300 page books in a night, to not finishing a single forced reading book starting with the first. Haven't read books since.
Yeah, I hate those kinds of teachers and books. I always thought they were dumb as a kid, but when I actually researched the issues, I found they were much more nuanced and human than the material/teacher presented. I'm glad I did a lot of my own research so I'm not a political zealot that bows to the cult of the party, and seeks to destroy the non-believers. Political retardation is a great way to guarantee a child will grow up hating books, as well as harbor resentment towards the school system. Luckily, I found technical coding manuals I enjoyed reading, and now I'm an avid reader of all sorts. I'm currently finishing up Crime and Punishment, by Fyodor Dostoevsky. I'm glad I got back into reading, because HG Wells is great fun.
I have a collection of yellowed/brown books that I haven't read.
I haven't read them because I spend more time watching TV shows online, and apparently 4 year old rants.
This is why literature courses should be pass/fail and based on discussion and free response, not on quizzing and multiple choice. Let people read and enjoy the literature, then talk and think about it and how it makes them feel and what kinds of pictures they had in their head, personally. Stop trying to boil it down to some sterile assignment.
The AR program is horribly damaging. The books I remember reading as a kid and enjoying weren't tested by AR, they were things I read on my own.
I didn't specifically love AR, but i was determined to get to 1k points(got it in fifth grade after three years of trying, btw. woohoo). I love reaching my goals and reading. I would've read all of the books even if I didn't get the points. We haven't done AR since fifth grade, but I've never stopped reading, and I'm really glad about that.
I didn’t mind ar bc i loved to read, but they brought it back for a year when i was in hs and we were all pretty mad bc it took away the fun of reading
@@hipeople9856 AR just gave me a reason to read a shit ton of books.
Although the books I absolutely enjoyed reading werent worth too many points despite being long ass books that took me a couple days to a week to read (I am a fast reader).
I like your profile name. RIP Haskell Curry.
My country has free discussion and response tests. Not sure why the US is behind in this regard.
I've never had a good English teacher that made me care about the content being taught. The only teachers that made me care about what I was learning about were my History teachers.
I had some great English teachers in highschool (my junior and senior year specifically) who actually cared and connected to the class and I actually enjoyed being in their class as they didnt have all that meaningless bullshit. They actually let us interpret the material for ourselves. Hell, my senior year teacher actually got me interested in poetry, and I hate poetry. All becuase he was cultivating interest again.
And junior year, she got me interested in writing. Turns out when I plan out my story with a basic framework and just let the imagination flow then I do rather well, she loved it, and anyone I show also quite liked it, despite it being rather depressing throughout. And that was all because she was a more creative teacher than the others and didnt want us to just write an essay on englands history.
But all the others fucking sucked. I absolutely hated english before them, and still hate it now despite them being great teachers who did different stuff.
My social studies teacher last year used power points and spoke in a monotone voice. He was a horrible teacher. I hope I don't have another teacher like him
The Internet thought me more than school ever could
lol
As a second year bachelor of music who has played music from A midsummers nights dream, this literature is extremely complex. Teachers barely understand it. It takes years of study and practice to understand the art forms. The intro that teachers give their students is laughable. Education should be introducing the kids into literature by having them watch the play (Like my college did... It felt like I was in highschool tbh). It took composers/artists decades to produce a top-hit. Years of burned music sheets before they produced something that people liked. I think George Frederick Handel was probably ready to give up before he produced his famous "Messiah" oratorio.
To a certain extend some teachers are at fault, but I believe the small group who chooses the curiculum is at fault. Atleast this is the case for Western Canada.
Agreed, the only silver lining in my high school was the "shop courses" such as Electronics and Drafting cause they actually let you work with your hands and engage in a project instead of being forced fed information and asked to regurgitate it (and goodness forgive you if you have a learning disability or simple don't learn well threw reading and writing, the Education system will drag you along kicking and screaming being belittled all the way)
@@UNSCPILOT I always had a tough time retaining information that I'd just read. I literally never read my textbooks in high school and elementary because they were so fucking mind-numbing I found it impossible. This really bites me in the ass now that I'm in university since all these textbooks that are apparently so vital to success are like 800 pages of text about stuff I frankly don't care about.
Kids don't learn Shakespeare to understand plays, they learn Bill S. to learn about storytelling, and writing your own plays - which are good things to learn. Mostly though kids learn Shakespeare because it's the culture that the upper classes enjoy.
Pupils would be better served by getting a book from the school library, and spending their literature classes reading whatever they want, and talking to each other, and addressing their teachers as equals, and learning from each other in the regular conversations that we're genetically programmed to have. You don't ask questions about things you don't care about, you don't monologue about something you don't care about. If kids grow up in an environment where they enjoy books and reading then they have the tools to learn throughout their life - it doesn't matter if the books aren't top-tier intellectualism or cultural classics - because a kid that reads rubbish is still better off than a kid that doesn't read.
We had to read a book for an exercise where we had to write a review about that book. We just weren't allowed to think by ourselves. The teacher even told us that we weren't even allowed to think about what we are writing because we are simply too stupid. the only thing that we were allowed to do was searching for quality reviews from that book and then writing our own exactly as it was written in those other reviews. We also get those tests where we first have to read a text and then instead of asking questions abouth the content of the text the questions were about stuff like: There is a comparison in this piece of text what word tells you they are comparing something. they constantly teach us stupid stuff like that. It is like they think that we can't even see that there is an opinion in a text unless there is this one specific word that tells us that there is an opinion.
Yeah, loved those. You're told to read a text and then you had a set of 20 questions of which maybe 3 actually had anything to do with the actual content of said text.
this is the opposite of learning
Here's a German trick for those kind of Hipster:
"Wo ist der Bus?"
"Where is the bus?"
99.99999% of the time they will stop, look at you, and ask confused:
"Welcher bus?"
"What bus?"
This is when you unfold your masterplan and say:
"Der Bus mit den Leuten die es interessiert."
"The bus of people who are interested."
Guaranteed to work.
I go for this:
"Shhhhhh shshshhhh, listen. Listen real close, you might hear it."
"Do you hear that? Do you hear that glorious sound?"
"That, sir/madam, is the sound... of everybody who asked."
You know, the modern schoolsystem was developed in another time, back when most kids would grow up to work in factories. Back then the schooling system would make sense. You would read as if it was a manual, you were tought to obey, to listen not think and talk. You would learn to sit still, come on time. Learn to not follow your dreams. Be quiet and accept your life and that will make you succeed.
Louis I agree with you on what is wrong with our education system, but in my opinion I think it's not the teachers but it's the public education requirements that the teachers have to follow. both my patents are teachers and my mom would without a doubt want to do what you think they should do, but the education system won't allow her to do so
I once tried to give someone a self-help book and he said "Oh I'm not into that stuff." I explained that the author had written down his ideas because he couldn't come over and explain them in person. I love your own way of putting it, life is an open book exam - you just have to open the books! :)
I love it when Louis talks "passive" aggressively about Apple
I work in schools almost every week maintaining copiers and printers and setting up equipment. the shit i see teachers doing with kids just blows my mind now on the flip side the kids have ZERO RESPECT PERIOD for anyone. so parents please teach your child to respect anything but a smartphone please
True words man
and even then, working as a cellular rep I see kids still thrashing their phones around and badmouthing their mother, right in front of me! It's just frustrating anymore.
I think it cuts both ways. The teachers often have absolutely zero respect for their students and treat them like dogshit, yet are continually afraid to overstep bounds and be denounced by the children. And why should the students respect the teachers back? It's like some Kafkaesque nightmare.
MrGoatflakes really hits the nail on the head
That's exactly what I was gonna say, most kids don't even respect their phones.
I hated reading because I was taught to read with my lips (a.k.a. subvocalization) and when you're reading with your lips you can only read at a certain speed so it gets boring quickly because the information is coming in to slowly and it felt like I was getting sleepy. I think the hate for reading stems from that. It took decades for me to break myself of that nasty little habit. If kids were taught to read with their eyes and not with their mouths, by sounding out the words. I think that would solve the problem with the hatred for reading.
@Jotaro97 This is going to sound weird, but this is how I did it. Whisper to yourself in a slow steady rhythm, repeat 1-2-3, 1-2-3 over and over and as you're doing that, try to read something. There's this weird moment when you realize you're reading with your eyes instead of your mouth and once you've experienced that a few times you'll be able to do it without saying 1-2-3.
wow, I usually read with my eyes so
1) which book did u read that taught u the way u talk to that customer
2) where the hell do u get a harddrive cable for 6 bucks
Optical drive cable.
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Tech Knewz probably a book whose author wasn't so lazy he couldn't deal with the challenge of typing a whole three-letter word.
3 years old and no answer, I would bet that he's talking about this book,
www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/1439167346/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1524828637&sr=1-3
It's a great book
He mentioned the title of the book in the video:
"The mistakes most businesses make" by Roger Mendelson.
Things that hooked me reading books because of anime and knowing something shit i didn't know that actually happened in real life like that.
Yeah, being weeab made me realize books are good while my school tells me that the books that i read is *NOT PART OF STUDY* .
Yeah, i fuckin hate school for a reason.
I actually used to love reading and literature up until I had to do it for GCSE’s (the British equivalent of SAT’s), where we were basically told what to read. Even when I was younger I thought writing in school was so limiting: “you’re gonna write a story about what we tell you, but you’re only goona have 500 words to write it in, and you’ll be timed.” If you ask me, it defeats the purpose of creative writing, as nothing about it is original and you’re not actually free to be *creative*.
Same when teachers would ask you to write a poem about something, and whenever I would, it would feel forced and like I was doing it just for approval from my teacher.
In my Secondary School now, they’ve implemented this reading program where for the first 10 minutes of each lesson the kids have to read. In my opinion, I feel that this isn’t really in the interest of the kids, but as a way to act like they actually care about our failing English in Britain. Tell me honestly that kids who don’t usually read will suddenly want to spend 50 minutes a day reading, because they won’t.
We need to teach kids creativity, originality and imagination, and I think reading and writing is such a good way to do this. But this starts with giving them choice on what to read.
Oh, man. The United States do the same thing!
My experiences match what you're saying. I actually liked to read anything and everything as a child, but the school system successfully beat that out of me by turning it into such a joyless experience undertaken purely to pass. I was so sick of books from school that I had no interest in them by the time I got home. Thus, I stopped entirely.
I'll still read things with useful information, sure, but I don't read actual stories anymore. Out of some 20+ teachers that I had throughout the school years... one, maybe two I could actually reflect positively on. There was a third who was likable, but in the end he literally did not teach. His classes essentially became (playful) shit-talking between him and the students. But his class was religious studies and it was more-or-less purely catholic/christian so we weren't really learning anything, anyway. I think that after the first two years, he began to realize that, himself.
Hooray for the broken education system! "Happiest years of your life", my ass. Like you've said, it's like people have completely forgotten what it was like at that age. Maybe it was genuinely better for them, but it's certainly not anymore.
However I will say that my college thankfully knew what the hell it was doing. Out of all of the classes and teachers I had, one class taught by one man was the only one I truly hated.
Being a geek saved my ass. In two grades some of us didn’t have books or chairs and just sat on the floor. They passed us with C’s without us doing a thing. We didn’t even have to take tests. I can only imagine what it’s like now.
I was lucky enough to have the realisation that reading makes you smart in primary school, I remember the day it hit me!
We were in class talking about something or other in year 2 (British school years) and my best friend kept knowing the answers to the teachers questions and I remember myself wondering how he knows all this stuff, and then linking it to what books he read. From that day on, I started reading every book we had available in class one by one and enjoyed it so much I kept going through all the books I could get my hands on, even when I moved to the Netherlands 2 years after that I was nearly a year ahead of the class while I hardly needed to pay attention to the lessons. I finished primary school with the best exam results possible, all because I had learnt to enjoy reading and learning by myself. Id like to say that reading is what protected me from the school system's way of forcing any kind of enjoyment out of learning.
To this day I prefer teaching myself through reading, watching and listening rather than have someone ask me ridiculous questions about some vague subject I'm not even interested in.
I was never good at reading. I aced all of the spelling and grammar stuff, and then why junior high came and those classes turned into literature, I was fucked. Books just don't interest me unless it's some kind of technical manual.
I’ve watched a lot of your content like this (advice/discussion as opposed to tech content) just in the past 2 days after discovering your channel. No matter how eloquent something can be written and then spoken, hearing you talk with no script and actual passion about what you’re saying is really great. I admire you and what you’ve accomplished and really just who you are as a person from watching your videos. Keep it up man!
Dude, you da bomb. BTW, you don't even have to spend money on books, there are these things called libraries..... ;)
mariomario813 Though there are some libraries that are cheap, like fxp. 15$ Yearly membership and it has over 50k books, I think.
Not sure how it's for the US, though.
our library is still free...
Also the books that are over 50 year old you can get honestly free in pdf.
mariomario813 Late fees- Turn your books in on time
Taxes- No idea what you're talking about there.
Library card- max $15 for hundreds of books that range from $12-35
+The Game Doctor library card in my country is 100% free so basically libraries are supported from my taxes by the goverment.
“Hey did you see that new Cody’s Lab video on UA-cam?”
“I actually only watch Louis Rossman”
I loved reading as a kid, I think I started reading when I was 4-5, so really early. I also remember that all my friends back then listened to audio cassettes of books and I never understood that because why not just read it? In primary school I was a big fan of Harry Potter and when I had to wait for the next book to come out in my country I asked my parents for the english version even though I only knew the very basics of that language, that's how dedicated I was to read. My parents did so much right and guess what destroyed my love for reading? Yep, school. I think it started at the end of middle school and definitely in high school. The books weren't even boring but the questions and task we were forced to do made no sense at all and in my last 2 school years where I even had English and German as the equivalent of AP courses and I read not a single book I was required to. I didn't need to because I could just skim through the book with the information I got in class and nail all the tests. I hate that school made me dislike reading but it's so hard to get back into liking it after having the mindset of "it doesn't matter" for so many years.
yo for real the teacher's unions are gonna arm themselves and find this guy before he actually forces change and gets rid of their power, keep living my man.
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Just bought '10 Mistakes Businesses Make- And How To Avoid Them' based on your recommendation. I've written so much stuff with grammar and spelling that sucked balls I think that won't be a problem. Thanks Louis.
In Medicine and Law, memorization is an absolute must along with a great analytical mind, you are vastly inefficient if you constantly have to look up things in these fields.
fitnesspoint2006 true. But those are fields of study that you voluntarily enter, hopefully because you desire to learn them anyway. That is very different from giving a 12 year old a hundred year old novel they couldn’t care less about and expecting them to remember details.
I agree with that in regards to Law, not in regards to Medicine. Good doctors actually understand everything that's happening and the whole body as a system. Not too different from how an engineer understands a mechanical machine. Lawyers in the other hand do depend on the minutiae of concepts that are changed and missused in the most controversial ways possible. That's a lot of memory.
But the thing is on average jobs is that the memory doesn't matter that much . And making kids answer those questions in novels is not going to really learn law terminology
I agree, how many books was I obliged to read, just because we had homework on it ... worst is, I don't remember anything from either of those 30'ish books ... but I remember so many things from Stephen Hawkings book "a brief history of time".
8:00 Holy shit i remember SRA. I had the same "problem" you did. When I was actually doing what I was supposed to be doing while everyone was just rushing to get the answers... Wow. Can relate so much to your experience.
I said this to my teachers in High School who acknowledged it and ultimately did jack shit because well usually it's not up to them. They follow a preplanned form. Now I'm much older and one thing I've decided is to gift my children books they will LIKE and there for they will enjoy reading :)
Ik you probably won't see this, but I had to subscribe because honestly, I've watched a few of your videos and you remind me so much of my dad who passed away when I was thirteen. He only ever expected the best of me, had calm discussions instead of punishing me, treated me like a human being. Like you always say we need to treat kids. Thank you so much dude. You make me feel like my dad is still with me, because a lot of the things you say sound just like the type of advice he'd have given me. And that's amazing because as an adult, I'm a parent now and after the trauma of losing him and other things I've gone through, I lost that part of me who was rational and became so depressed and angry. I'm trying so hard to fix that. But one of the biggest things that I want as a parent, is to raise my son the way my dad raised me. I've worked on myself a lot over the years, but your advice especially when it comes to children really hits home for me. Thank you Louis.
Louis Rossmann The reason that they ask the questions is 'reading comprehension'. By asking a pointed question, with a logical result, you can determine if the person reading knew the context of the question and material. Unfortunately reading comprehension isn't 'actual' reading, where you immerse yourself in the story and imagine it playing out.
The only "reading comprehension" that was ever required from me, was finding a "key" teachers used to construct tests, so I could memorize it along with questions.
Except I didn't, so I barely passed those tests, while a stupid bimbo, who couldn't read even if her life depended on it, always scored 80%+ more often than not outdoing a guy whom we dubbed "walking Wikipedia", because he could almost always answer any of the teacher's questions...
But you can't give a proper answer, if you don't know the damned question, eh?
I used to have an insane reading-phase during ages of 8-12. I absolutely loved reading books. But then, as I grew older, school just really took every inch of fun I ever had reading away. Nowadays I am trying to get back to it, but I never had the same fun and motivation as back then again.
I ALWAYS hated reading in school. Funnily enough, once I got out of school, I started reading on my own and enjoying it... There was a book that I read, it has about 355 pages. I was SO into it, that I finished it in about 3 days (not constant reading. Few hours here and there throughout those days). I just freaking loved that book.
I think the reason why I hated reading so much was because there was always a test on it and the books fucking sucked. It didn't help too that I was a massive procrastinator who always left things at the last minute so I'd always find myself force-reading these shitty books the night before the test.
And also your points about how teachers do just the bare minimum to get on with their lives. I felt that. I have thought about going into Education so I can teach kids/teens better so they don't come out to be as losers or like robotic test-approved type bullshit. I want future generations to go beyond. To actually LEARN and UNDERSTAND things in life, not to prepare for tests and then forget all about it after it's done. Maybe I'll go into teaching once I've done my career in another field.
I used to love reading as a kid
I dont know why I don't like it anymore
SRA
Sounds like it would mean “Standardized Reading Assessment”
Reading is one of the most beautiful things you can do in life. It connects you to the author's mind. It's really transcendent. When I was in school it was such a robotic task. I never fully grasped the level of mental and emotional depth reading can bring. I'm 23 now and only started seriously reading books 2 years ago when a friend in college recommended some. Now, I stopped watching TV shows (TV is garbage anyways, just mass social engineering) and started reading and it's like my brain actually works now. It's so much easier to learn and retain information I learn from reading plus I've noticed a general increase in my short and long-term memory, my ability to express ideas (expansion of concepts and vocabulary) and the ability to understand others.
Thanks Louis for sharing your wisdom with us
I personally really appreciate these videos for they will really help me succeed, little by little
Kianypour same here for me too. this had been a real inspiration to me.
Jamin Ortiz Thank you both!
Louis Rossmann the only book that i liked reading in school was the outsiders i was forced to read it twice in middle school
"Kids are not dumb; they're simply ignorant smaller adults with higher-pitched voices" - Well put!
Louis is fixing people aside from MacBooks
+Louis Rossmann Makes sense, i hated reading in school but and during 1st year in high school i didn't read at all, i just read summaries few hours before the exam at 6 am. then once one of this "must-read" books were really interesting so i read it and i enjoyed it, why i read it? i enjoyed reading summary, i passed the test with 80% correct answers and got interested in the book so i read it and i was interesting then i read but what really made me stop reading were stupid questions "what author meant to say", bitch you don't know what he meant to say, i can interpret it like i want as long as it makes sense and is logical and in high school my teacher knew that so he convinced me to read the books again. i read shakespear again and it was much better and now when i think about it shakespear isn't so great. It was entertaining to see it in theatre to enjoy how actors play it but story sucks to me. (kinda like blockbuster movies).
Now i don't have much time to read so when i have like 1 hour that i can spend for reading, fine but then it's difficult to go back to it just for another hour, like watching tv series but every episode is 10 minutes long, still i can enjoy it so it's fine i guess.
english isn't my main tongue and i hope it makes sense.
LMAO; Describing people on the L-train from Myrtle-Wyckoff -to -8th Avenue. Exact description.
You already know!
Dude you are so awesome. Total respect! Love listening to your rants before going to bed.
"ignorant smaller adults with higher pitched voices"
I know it's true but I just found that line so funny
I remember having to read a book and write down a shortenned version of it. I procrastinated and tried reading it all in one sitting, but it was simply too boring. I just read a quarter of it, shortenned it and just bullshitted an ending to it. I always thought my literature teacher was a strict woman, but judging on the fact that I got full grade for that made me see that it wasn't true.
I went to barns and nobles in Queens, NY. For such things and as you said I read bc I ENJOYED it not bc I needed. One time I forgot about a book report 4th grade... I read the back and wrote it and got an A because it answered all the questions LOL..
I love your logical rants. Also sry for putting messages on old posts.. mostly for me to feel Better -less I give a darn that anyone actually reads it even you. Just feels better I put it out there, but really thx for your effort on all the videos. Some are amusing and others show me notnbad point of views I can think upon and didnt realize in such detail. Thanks man for putting your effort in.
I agree because having to answer specific questions sucks the enjoyment out of reading a book I initially enjoyed. Good video 👍
I remember back in my Junior year, I was intrigued by Lord of the Flies and decided to read it on my own time, and it's still to this day one of my absolute favorite novels of all time! The only other people I knew who read it had to read it for school work, and everyone I knew that had to read it hated the book.
Thank you education, you have butchered literature
Really enjoy the honest way that you speak. Great video.
me in second grade: reads 300 pages/day
me now: hasn't opened a book in a month
I love reading. My mum took me to loads of great libraries. I would frequently read while walking on the road. Try to sneak a book into the bath. Read a book during class in primary school. All kinds of stuff.
I remember a book that I read where the questions for the book were things where an event happened multiple times. Also one of the questions were something like “how did he know when there was a fish on the line?” One of the answers was something like the line moved and another answer was like the line trembled. Those questions are the worst.
There’s also dumb Study Island for LA. I’ve never learned real LA skills from it. I’ve learned the answer it wants and I put that so that I can get a good grade. Also most of the questions were highly opinionated.
Wow I had that expireance with apple. The guy said you MAY loose some data. I ended loosing all my data. I’m loving your videos. I’m gonna watch them to prevent future mistakes. Here’s some suggestions for school reading questions- “Was this character truly good?”, “Was this character truly evil?”, “Why does this character do what they do, is it understandable?”, “What character do you think was right?”, “Was this book good?” My school is actually pretty good compared to most places.
Yep. This is why I have almost completely stopped reading...
I'm blessed to have nothing but great teachers.
love this angle, looks like a proper workshop :)
20:00 I just purchased the book. Thank you for the recommendation. I am significantly older than you, and with several other people, I run a company with 400+ employees. You are special in that your photographic memory of your early years have allowed you to analyse those times with the wisdom and experience of the current you. Your sharing of these opinions are appreciated and frankly will shape how I raise my kids. Respect.
Another episode of “I vividly remember what it was like to be a kid.”
I just finished reading the great gatsby for a school thing and after i submit my assignment i see this video in my recommended and it made me realize that the hardest thing for me doing the assignments was the fact that i was enjoying the book so much i forgot to remember the questions i had to answer and thats where all the pain came from. im glad i came across this video and your channel a while ago.
15:00 Louis Rossman, you are a genius XD
17:03 when you realize you're still watching the video about books and louis just connected everything together in the most badass way possible
A lot of this comes from policy, though. Schools are judged by how well children do at tests - some times teachers' salaries, or even their jobs, depend on it too. This is especially true for schools in low-income neighborhoods. Watch the fourth season of the Wire if you don't want to read a book about it :)
Oh my gosh, I read the title of this video and immediately thought about the trauma of SRA! I do remember enjoying the short stories at the beginning but then I realised I had to catch up with my classmates. I was actually failing English class because of this and just accepted that I was just dumb in reading so I hated reading for most of my school years. What changed it for me was that one summer break after 3rd year highschool, I was stuck at my grandma's house with no technology and spent the day literally just staring at nothing. After the 3rd day, I cracked it and looked for something to do. There was only books. I started reading and by the end of the summer I already finished around 10 books. Since then I loved reading and thankful that this turning point happened to me.
Also as a side note: While growing up, I realised I had a different way of looking at things and situations from most people. So the reading comprehension part at school really didn't work well with me.