Driverless taxis take to the streets of San Francisco - BBC News
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Driverless taxis, or “robotaxis”, have been rolled out on the streets of San Francisco, and BBC technology show Click has been to see how they work.
The vehicles are capable of getting passengers from A to B across the city, but there is one major difference to a traditional taxi or rideshare - they have no driver.
Instead, the cars use self-driving technology to navigate the city streets, with sensors keeping an eye out for other vehicles and pedestrians.
While many have embraced the new technology, some remain cautious about the safety of driverless vehicles.
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They don't have to be totally safe, they just need to be safer than cabs with human drivers.
Less drunken brits in the road
Easy milestone
judging from this program, one problem seems to be that these cars behave so strange and unpredictable that they present a danger to other motorists. like with really old drivers sometimes, where you ask yourself "what in the world are they doing?"
Taxi drivers here drive like lunatics just to earn an extra buck a little faster. I hope they deploy these things in Thailand.
What happens when an older lady or man asks If somebody can take their heavy suitcase or groceries to their flat, a Taxidriver is not just about driving safely!
As someone that rides a bike in SF I definitely trust these more than drivers
It keeps a record of every ride getting smarter and smarter and safer
Is it just me or did this report not provide any way for us, the viewers to judge the severity of any situation? The reporter says "Ooh" and "No", but there was no problem I could see besides a jumpy, uncomfortable reporter.
Yeah, exactly. Nothing about that attempt to pass the bus looked weird. I've been in that situation many times.
100%. And the silly comment about the AI taxi being bad, when it was actually avoiding a crash when the stupid bus driver started veering left without caring if anyone was there.
How the driverless taxi handled the bus situation is exactly what a human driver should do. May be that passenger had never been a good driver, thinking that driving faster avoids accidents. When a heavy vehicle in front wants to move, in fact any vehicle in front wants to move, into your lane, you give way.
In real life, even when someone suddenly overtakes you from behind and immediately enters your lane, you have to give way somehow too. You can curse that driver who came from behind, but you have no choice. Any other choice will get you into a collision.
@@AndyCutright In our country buses has priority when they left from bus stop so basically that self-driving car did correctly.
@@jameshamilton3484 In our country it would be car drivers fault if bus had rammed car when there because bus has priority when they left from bus stop.
What if a solo passenger suddenly becomes unwell will it redirect to hospital..would it take you if your credit card had insufficient funds ?? Would it alert robo porter to carry u out the cab to emergency room on array..step to far..no need for this vanity project..impersonal and potentially dangerous physically and societally...
Better than most drivers, still.
Fr, humans suck at driving
I see these Cruise taxis whenever I drive in the evening in San Francisco. I have to give a quick look to see if there’s a driver and it’s amazing to see none. I think the developer should add a mannequin “Johnny cab” like in the movie “Total Recall.”
We’ll get used to it just like every other technological advancement before this. I can’t wait to try it when the service gets to my city
Absolutely. They said we should stick to the horse carriages 😂... this report also didn't say what the Cruise accident rate was compared to human drivers in the same area and what the total dollar amount of vehicle damage was, human injuries/deaths it caused compared to human driver caused collisions.
@Lord Phroyt Have you seen how humans drive compared to self driving cars
It's like getting into an elevator. We trust those too.
@Lord Phroyt the point I want to make is that we trust elevators to take us to our destination as well. We step in and push a button and then our lives are in the hands of the machine. In this sense it is like the self driving car. I also think people will get used to it as the op stated but I personally will opt out.
@@applejade we should've stuck to the horse carriages
Now this should be the best to keep everyone safe while travelling without having to have a driver they don't know at all that is a total stranger all cities need to have this driverless taxis
Until that thing malfunctions and slams u into a wall at 90 mph
San Francisco baby!!! They been testing these for YEARS!! Glad the city is the first to make this technology right out of San Francisco!!! Tech capital of the world!
@Ching Vang no they haven’t bro. These were first in San Francisco in early 2010s. This ain’t China technology. 🤡
this is whats needed outside clubs, bars and pubs on Saturday night to take all the drunk people back home safely without being abducted, assaulted or raped
Actually this drives safer than a lot of people drive out there. And no DUI's.
Of course it's not ready, but this is why they are trying it out. Think where things will be in a couple of decades- which is no time at all when you think about it. There are people born today that will grow up with such tech and see it as normal.
This a lawsuit waiting to happen,they probably make you agree to some terms ...
What happens if you are in the backseat and there is an accident? Who is responsible to provide insurance info?
i wonder if horror stories would come out in the future from this, like riding a driverless taxi alone, dark in the middle of nowhere, and then suddenly, a ghost possesses the car to lead you somewhere or it stops in the middle of nowhere, where the computer thinks there's something blocking the way forward
Then maybe the car grows wings and flies to the moon
More likely still, criminals throw down something that will make the car stop while they rob the passenger.
finally perfect cab for couples 😂
You think they’ll be cameras set up everywhere
It drives better than many drivers I see on the road. I’m ready for it.
I imagine people will tend to vandalize them
I absolutely love this tech. It's improving at an exponential rate whereas human driving is as good as it gets. And remember, if all cars are autonomous then the variables are far lower whilst all autonomous vehicles will talk to each other.
oh good for you! and what is left for the people in need of work?
Me too!
If all cars are autonomous then nobody has freedom of movement. Everyone will become subject to a future in which having their cars shut down remotely for merely posting offensive comments online
@@lukeirvine1386 Imagine the blind being able to drive. If that's possible that's awesome. As far as jobs they'll be lots of jobs. .
@@100aceswid The blind can already drive. It's called taking an uber or taxi, which would have the exact same effect as using a smart car which can be remotely shut off.
When I showed this video to my wife and they were talking about some accidents the taxis had she rightly stated it’s no like taxi drivers are perfect and never get into accidents
Problem is with self driving cars no one is responsible, it runs over someone you may be able to sue the company but that’s it, no one will actually be held accountable for an injury or death
Cant be any worse than those African Uber drivers lmao
When the guy is saying "oooh whats happened there" is the equivalent of your mate commenting on your driving when you make a tiny mistake. The difference is the driverless car has about 3-5x the amount of eyes with a 360 degree view of its surroundings and able to make decisions a thousand times faster with impeccable precision. People really have the audacity to think they are better drivers than an AI computer which is learning and improving every second.
Exactly 👍
It's actually driven by a person back in headquarters with a steering wheel. Remotely. 😂
When you ride with another driver you also fell a little uncomfortable. This is human nature. When we drive around in our Tesla we kind of freak out. Yet it has never had an accident. People are unpredictable. When we have more self driving cars than people driving cars it will much safer for us. Yet I still love to drive.
i hate being in a complete strangers car, can't wait for this to make it's way across the pond to the uk
Do you mean YOUR Tesla has never had a accident or Tesla's in general, for they have had several accidents! They are no ready! They are still hitting motorcyclist, pedestrians and other cars! They are a road hazard, so far!
Yeah, but you can reason about humans. You can't reason about the ML systems managing the car. You might as well try to figure out what a spider is thinking.
You can tell if a human is drunk, or irrational, or ... You know the driver's been licensed, that the driver is insured, etc. The driver is trying to make money so there's an incentive to drive safely. Bad driving means no money and no job. There's a fair chance the driver is going to speed because faster delivery means more fares. There's an immense amount of data regarding a human driver at your fingertips if you think about it.
And not everyone feels uncomfortable with taxi drivers. I mean .. have you heard of NY NY?
While I enjoy the feature, I don't think it is accident-free yet.
Australian delivery, so many features disabled - but I've had situations where the car was not yet capable.
Mostly bends on a crest and roundabouts.
@@nightlightabcd This robotaxi looks more like a retrofitted Chevy Volt, than a Tesla. The problem with Tesla, is they decided to forgo the use of lidar, which is safer than just visual navigation. From the mounts, on this Volt, lidar is being used. It's uglier, but safer.
When did this get approved. I thought it wasn't even safe during the experiments. Maybe at low speed at night only when no one's out?
I think this is sad news... This is going to eventually put alot of people out of work
This is supposed to be comforting?
Much needed in India. Drivers keep cancelling rides just for their comfort. This is the only solution for it. But maybe not implementable in India currently.
Love it!
what if someone tries to steal the car or wont get off or trying to get a free ride
It can lock the doors and take them to the police station 😂
@@bahamatodd 😂
So this is a fully equipped version of driverless - look at all the appendages. Plus you have remote drivers on backup - so it's not completely driverless. Drivers are monitoring. What's a little more creepy is the fact that passengers are also being monitored - but that's true for any public transit system. These cars should offer an interesting way to finance your next car - just by turning it loose when you're not using it. So - while at work, and overnight. COOL! I can finally bid POB's (Plain Old Busses) the inefficiency kings of city streets (most cities and especially off hours) a FK THEE WELL. (From the original public uber designer, 1974.)
You won't be buying a car in the future, I don't believe. Cities and such will lease fleets of autonomous vehicles, or you'll just hail one like you do Uber or whatever when you need one. I mean, folks will still buy cars, but a lot won't need to.
There will be car clubs on a subscription service and you can do so many miles per month on different tiered services. Eventually, humans will not be allowed to drive on public roads as they will be considered unpredictable and dangerous - it will be shit and the feeling of freedom and being in control of your life will be taken away bit by bit until we all feel like lab rats unless we live off-grid as a criminal or are very wealthy.
@@AndyCutright I'll be buying a bigger vehicle to use as a hotel room when on visits - much cheaper - so I'll want a VW transporter sized vehicle - that new Walmart fleet vehicle caught my fancy. But even then - hey - I prefer an electric bike for daily driving. So - private side income! Also - even clunker-junk ev's can serve as powerwalls for storage - 2-3 cays worth for a small house, refrigerator, electronics, small heater, lighting - on or off grid.
@@ewencameron1168 LOL - actually I remember this one Autopia ride at Pacific Ocean Park that went out over the ocean and you could sort of pull over - but you were never going to F' anything up! Dad and me at age 10. So I think A.I. will just read your thoughts and make you take a nap if you're trying to run somebody over.
These cars are not capable of being driven remotely and no one is monitoring. These are fully autonomous vehicles. If something goes wrong employees are on call.
Too early for a futuristic taxi but it's amazing. It's scary for sure for the first trip with a taxi with no drivers but imagine if all domestic or international planes have no pilots in the future time. well I think we might shit in our pans😆
I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable not having a human pilot for a plane there present mostly now planes are autonomous but it's always good to have a person there for back up. I think cars & public transportation I'd be much more willing to try hopefully they're in the norm in a few years
It’s a great point, at least with a driver you know they’re putting their life on the line as well as yours… do you really trust a computer to correctly handle the almost infinite scenarios a human can? Approval as a result is just impossible hence they need to prove themselves on real roads. So AVs are for Guinea pigs as i see it.
Imagine they do this to Main Battle Tank, IFV and jet fighters...
Only way it will be totally safe is if all cars on the road are driverless cars
They say it's programmed to "drive conservatively". But I can see in this video that this is the same mistake a lot of overly timid drivers make: The car seems to favor coming to a complete stop in traffic, if there's anything questionable happening. But it isn't accounting for the fact that being stopped in the middle of an active lane has a 'risk weight' to it, that needs to be placed against the risk of simply taking the right of way or moving around. Stopping in traffic is dangerous. In addition, it seem to make the timid driver mistake of thinking that 'slower is always better'. But a car moving 20 mph in a 50 mph street is as much of a hazard as a stationary obstacle on a 30 mph street.
Going faster is also dangerous, especially if your driver is a computer with no human brain. They have to go slow and conservatively as they improve. It's statistics.
@@charliedoyle7824 well ya, but the computer being too dumb is part of the issue right now lol.
I didn't see it favor stopping. When there was a car stopped ahead, the vehicle saw it and turned around it. It tried to do the same with the stopped city bus, but there must have been a car approaching in the lane next to the taxi, which is why it didn't just get into the next lane and bypass the bus, but you could see it wanted to, it was about to, but had to stop. I've seen human drivers do that a lot...thinking they'll just get around the bus but then oncoming cars prevent them from moving to the next lane.
@@Daniel-Strain of course the system is dumb compared to us.
They know going too slow is somewhat dangerous, but it's the least bad way to drive with an early robodriver.
@@charliedoyle7824 Yeah but they were so obsessed with whether or not they COULD do it, that they didn't stop long enough to think whether they SHOULD do it.
Total Recall
driver or not bbc always rides free
Watch the video again at the bus section. He freaks out because "another" bus pulled out and made him nervous. In actuality it was a articulated or stretch, accordion bus. The car did what it was supposed to do flawlessly but the human didn't understand and became nervous. I believe it will be a learning curve for humans more than for the machine.
Let's remember that this is remarkable technological progress! In under a decade Automated Vehicles have gone from far-fetched sci-fi to early commercial readiness. Unfortunately, the hype cycle led to unrealistic, impatient expectations. Myopia/short-term memory causes people to ask "What is taking so long? I'm dissatisfied - these things aren't perfect yet! Why can't 'they' get this right?" I'm very excited about the prospects for safer, saner driving, calmer streets with predictable traffic, and enhanced mobility for all. (Of course we still need to make all the vehicles electrified and more appropriately sized for urban areas, to avoid AV dystopia).
Now IF ONLY medical technology would advance at this rate. Not that doctors are not needed, but I mean discoveries in the medical field that could lead to speedier recovery times and extending the lives of humans, even for those who are meeting their "last days". THAT would be much more important to consider than these driverless taxis - I just don't see the point of them?
*Geez. This was completely unpredictable* )-
There have been automated driverless buses doing different circle routes around my college campus since 2018. These people's reaction of massive shock seems kinda overkill. 2022 is nearly at an end, I think its about time.
You need to learn to keep your mouth shut when the car is driving, you're making it nervous.
Passengerless taxis will become a thing..could deliver uber eats
drones will do that much faster and much cheaper, with a far less complex AI system required
Not any more. They were pulled off the streets.
I did this a couple of times in SF and it's pretty safe. The problem is of course the first time anyone tries this it does feel odd that a car is driving and no one is in the drivers seat. The steering wheel is turning and a computer is in control. The tech will get more advanced but I have to say it's cars drive very conservative and never drives fast. No short cuts or telling it to take other faster routes but it's the future.
An accident waiting to happen
So can human drivers
@@letter1014 wow really
It's all fun and games until you run over someone on the street and get your butt sued.
When you say "you", you mean the company right?
I look forward to the lawsuits when they accidents start rolling in. Let’s hope that no innocent people are injured or worse.
Yep there are victims already - people who have lost their job. And many more to come😪
Vger will comply when the carbon units provide the necessary information.
Just a bit concerned about vandalism but looks great assuming all passengers are obedient
If it gets one less "texter" off the road and put a driver that just drives it will be worth it's weight in gold.
Cycling is dangerous enough without bug-ridden machines with no real comprehension of the 3-dimensional world around them in charge of heavy, fast-moving objects.
People are amazing!!! 😍😍😍
Better reporting would be saying what happened when you made noises about your safety rather than shaky camera footage and half clips. Didn't really learn anything about why you found it unnerving.
So that’s more peoples jobs going to be at risk now.
Remember when beepers first came out? It takes time to perfect something.
0:53 did they really name it Chorizo
( Mexican sausage) ? 🤣💀
Looks smoother than FSD 😂
3:44 PM
10/1/2022
Driving cars back in the Shire must be awfully different?
Anyone who actually lives (and drives) in San Francisco hates these things. At least 1x/week, I see them stopped at a green light for no reason at all, backing up traffic for several blocks every time. Just this week, a Cruise car stopped suddenly in the middle of a wide-open street (green light, no other cars in front, no intersection or pedestrians anywhere in sight), forcing me to SLAM on the brakes to avoid rear-ending the thing.
Idk why but im gonna miss cruise in san francisco. I dont think they’re going back to sf
Y'all know that the whole idea of robotaxis is for someone else to get you from point A to point B.
If you had personal transport capable of doing that, be it an e-bike, an electric scooter or an electric wheelchair, you wouldn't pay the other person to do that for you.
What we need is better paths for single person commute, not robotaxis.
Nevermind safety, and wether the technology is fully complete for commercial use for the public. But also for the love of God think about the drivers, do we really need more automation cutting more jobs? I'd rather pay more for a real driver knowing I'm helping someone put food on the table
Businesses have no conscience they only look at profits
That question has been asked before. If this machine can sow a field with barley with only one man instead of 12 men standing in a row with bowls of grain in front of them, won't that create lots of unemployment. The answer is no, just a rise in productivity and therefore a rise in living standards.
@@sebastianguerre6868 PLUS people who would in the future be thinking about going into the profession would be able to do something more productive for society as that would be automated... One thing that you should ask is what will happen to the people who are already in the profession? How would they be able to maintain and improve their own standard of living if their income source is cut off?
@@lingochuuchuu8138 Future automatisation will mean fewer hours per week at work. That has already happened, people work many fewer hours then they did 100 years ago. A Guaranteed Minimum Income system has already been implemented in some countries. Transition may be difficult as it was in the industrial revolution.
EXACTLY
They should hire Robert Picardo to voice a faux driver, just like in the first Total Recall.
There may be problems but this is the future.
"Just stop here mate, thanks". Oh wait a min
I hope that anyone who is willing to ride in a driverless car is willing to be taken to the morgue in a driverless ambulance.
How to make a fun of this car "Just to put on a shirt with a various road signs " 😂😂
But hell, yeah these stuffs are pretty cool actually
wont catch me in one!
Marvellous 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Haven't we been talking how safe these cars are for years?
this is so dangerous
Total recall
You got any data to back up that fear mongering?
TBH most human taxi drivers would’ve made much worse driving decisions than that computer.
When the vehicle becomes disoriented the controller should ask a licensed passenger to move the vehicle to a safe location. Cruise can compensate you rather than have you sit in traffic waiting for them to dispatch a driver.
unbelievable poor report for an eminent outlet as the BBC. not a single word about the legal background. which authority allowed this company to offer taxi services? did the company convince some state or federal agencies their product is safe? 4:16 the questions this _center for auto safety_ guy is asking are questions the company should have answered to public authorities already. we didn't get any info from the BBC on that point. so where are we in that regard?
🍁Happy Saturday night Tom !!
Sandra 🇨🇦
No statistics on accidents? Didn't want to reveal how many fewer their cars had per ride mile as uber or lyft?
That BBC Tv passenger is such a little girl, this is how a lot of cab drivers drive
We are witnessing the starting of revolution of driverless cars and the begining of the end for uber at the same time. It's surely scary tho lol
Were the accidents caused by other drivers or themselves?
This will lead to millions of job losses, and everyone's cheering it along 🤦♂️
i wonder if the system is trained to correctly identify a person peeing or defecating on the street in SF.
"Sorry , your social credit score has dropped below 700- no ride for you today, humanoid" Don't say you weren't warned!!!!
Humans are no better at driving if not worse! Look at how many accidents happen every single day... And deaths. I think this is good and the way of the very near future.
When the motor car began driving the streets, a man had to walk in front with a red flag.
And CD's will never skip they told us in the 80s
I'm here from a year later from this video in 10/2023. Not much progress with this
What happens when there is a huge rain storm and the wifi signal gets blocked when you are traveling at 60mph.
Let's get technology to do ALL humans jobs and see were that gets us. Just this one example, how many taxi drivers worldwide will be jobless...
Cool, wonder what it's like riding in an self driving rig.
How does it do with road construction.
Only the Beginning
This is a Johnny Cab!
WOW...Welcome ?
How to get it to stop incase there's an emergency?
As a woman, I don’t feel safe driving with an unknown man. I am a Waymo customer.
This is good technology in fucher. Definitely help to humans . This reduced humaoid accident But still present in technology side accidents like hacking, sensors error etc .. .That also reduced this very helpful for humans
Will it stop for trams.
That is crazy