@@a_swaf It's a good thing because copyright laws shit on creativity, whether that be from fans or creators trying to make something "original" only to have another guy claim "plagiarism".
@@a_swaf because it was nonsense. It was based on 4 cords, 4 cords that other artists had used in songs prior to the marven Gaye hit. 4 cords that was proven in court to be used on multiple tracks prior, which is why Ed won. Had he lost there would have been hundreds of cases of the same kind and it would have killed music. As was said it's like banning the colour Blue to painters. It was a joke
@@a_swaf Because I don't believe in Copyright. Maybe if Sheeran had just recorded his own version of "Lets get it on", and tried to claim he wrote that song, things might be different. But they are two different songs. This lawsuit was copyright trolling, straight up.
@@a_swaf That's the point. Copyright law is shit because it actively discourages learning from inspiration and instead encourages trying to lock yourself away alone to try to create something "original" and hope no one else makes it first.
And there is Ed in the forefront making boundaries and trailblazing! It doesn't come im sure at proper good timing. Kudos to Ed for showing up once again. The man has character and shows a great deal of restraint.
Trailblazing? He makes mediocre bland inoffensive mind numbing sentimental simp pop for NPCs. There's nothing trailblazing about him. He is a pretty good singer and an average guitar player but he's also a whore of Babylon.
I mean that makes sense it's hard to write a song if every note your concern that you can't go forward without copyright infringement. Especially in this situation when there's a long history of those notes being played together in songs before and after.
Stop it, what was so brave about it? how is he a Hero? the guy was defending himself and his integrity, nothing brave or heroic about it, he was getting sued and he defended himself.
Blue suede shoes , rock around the clock , leaving on a jet plane and thousands of other songs use the 1 , 4 , 5 progression in music add the four chord and lot's of songs use that progression so it's obvious that somewhere your going to get something sounding similar to another song but it doesn't mean you've ripped it off
Yeah 100% She only acted that way after she lost to save face, they definitely trying to rob him and its disgusting that there STILL isn't laws in place to put false claimants behind bars. If the police caught a burglar in your house they'd lock them up, so why not this type of thief?
@@HereticDuohat’s because they’re 2 completely different scenarios, you can’t easily compare physical theft of property to intellectual property theft. It’s not as easy as that. For instance, one is a criminal matter (burglary) and the other is a civil matter (intellectual property theft) only in certain circumstances can it be a criminal offence and this is not one of them.
True artist are "arrogant". What i mean by that is we believe in our music, lyrics, etc. Ofcourse songwrites will take inspiration from somewhere or another song, but that is also because there are dozens of songs describing one moment or one feeling.
Very magnanimous of him. We can only hope it deters KG from pursuing more cases. Public sentiment towards her will only become increasingly hostile (and let's hope the legal fees bit).
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry's and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
A songwriter who uses these common chord progressions is obviously less creative than a songwriter who comes up with something uncommon. Both Marvin Gaye and Ed Sheehan use pretty much the same common chord progression with the same number of beats per chord and similar tempo. These chord progressions form the basis of both songs. The drum beat and basslines are also very similar. So these elements are the pre-made canvas upon which to create you own melody and lyrics. Songwriters who do this are actually writing less (being less creating and doing less creating) than songwriters who choose more unique chord progressions. Take the Mona Lisa, change her hair color and fingernail color change a couple things in the background and there you go. No copyright infringement. Steal without "stealing." Thank you Leonardo for doing the heavy lifting so I can profit.
Unfortunately, this story ever so reminds GREATLY of how ELVIS PRESLEY robbed poor BLACK person's of color way down the south by stealing their songs and recording them and releasing them and profiting millions of dollars in album SALES over BLACK person's songs!!! SHEERAN most definitely committed copyright infringement Everybody with good EARS can hear that SHEERAN committed plagerism by sampling and recording the Gayes and the Townsend's song without their permission!!!! Its a doggone shame that the album he illegally recorded went diamond by selling over 10million copies and the Townsend's and the Gayes lost in court and weren't compensated monies it's just downright pitiful the discrimination BLACKS are up against in this pitiful country Anytime there is BLACK vs WHITE case in the courthouse BLACK person's always come out on the losing END 🤢🤢🤢
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poor dude had to miss his grandma's funeral to defend himself :( glad they lost...lets hope reparations fails in the same historical manner in the USA. cash grabbers are gonna cash grab...
The song is not copied. The 2 bar vamp definitely is almost exactly the same tho. It's 4 chords. Three of which literally walk straight up the scale, then resolves 5>1, the most common resolution of the millennia. The harmonic rhythm moving on the and of 2 was the best pro-plagarism argument they had Drum groove is 8ths on the hat, snare on 2-4, prototypical beat. For the past century copyright has only covered melody and lyrics. The lawsuit didn't have any ground to stand on from the beginning. But I can definitely see how non-musicians could hear the same two bar vamp and easily be swayed by an 'expert witness' being paid to say whatever. The electronics industry went thru these frivolous lawsuits back in the day which is why you can't copyright an electric circuit design, Only a full product. It stifles growth. You can't copyright the fact that running electricity thru little wires will toast bread lol but if you have a great design for a toaster with a separate timer on each side whatever else, you can get a patent for the idea as a whole but you have to prove your design has gone beyond simply how the physical world works. Chords walking up a scale and resolving 5-1 is just how the harmonic world works.
I'm so glad the copyright trolls lost.
@@a_swaf It's a good thing because copyright laws shit on creativity, whether that be from fans or creators trying to make something "original" only to have another guy claim "plagiarism".
@@a_swaf because it was nonsense. It was based on 4 cords, 4 cords that other artists had used in songs prior to the marven Gaye hit. 4 cords that was proven in court to be used on multiple tracks prior, which is why Ed won. Had he lost there would have been hundreds of cases of the same kind and it would have killed music. As was said it's like banning the colour Blue to painters. It was a joke
@@a_swaf Because I don't believe in Copyright. Maybe if Sheeran had just recorded his own version of "Lets get it on", and tried to claim he wrote that song, things might be different.
But they are two different songs.
This lawsuit was copyright trolling, straight up.
@@a_swaf Exactly my point. Everything is derivative.
The Copyright system is used by the wealthy to keep their exploited profits.
@@a_swaf That's the point. Copyright law is shit because it actively discourages learning from inspiration and instead encourages trying to lock yourself away alone to try to create something "original" and hope no one else makes it first.
And there is Ed in the forefront making boundaries and trailblazing! It doesn't come im sure at proper good timing. Kudos to Ed for showing up once again. The man has character and shows a great deal of restraint.
Trailblazing? He makes mediocre bland inoffensive mind numbing sentimental simp pop for NPCs. There's nothing trailblazing about him. He is a pretty good singer and an average guitar player but he's also a whore of Babylon.
I mean that makes sense it's hard to write a song if every note your concern that you can't go forward without copyright infringement. Especially in this situation when there's a long history of those notes being played together in songs before and after.
Ed, because you are so brave, you and Amy and attorneys have set new Precedent that will be written in law books. You are our HERO.❤️
Stop it, what was so brave about it? how is he a Hero? the guy was defending himself and his integrity, nothing brave or heroic about it, he was getting sued and he defended himself.
Blue suede shoes , rock around the clock , leaving on a jet plane and thousands of other songs use the 1 , 4 , 5 progression in music add the four chord and lot's of songs use that progression so it's obvious that somewhere your going to get something sounding similar to another song but it doesn't mean you've ripped it off
Super nice guy. Glad he won.
Wait. So who exactly was suing him if not the Townsend estate? The copyright lawyers?
it was the co-writer of the Marvin track I believe
@@sammyjayryski that’s the Townsend estate …
That’s what I’m saying
Ed was just being respectful. This trial was greed nothing more. They tried to shake him up for money and lost.
@@cskyo Yeah, imagine trying to copyright a chord progression. When 99% of pop songs use the same four chords.
Yes you can't copyright chord progression. There's only 12 notes in music so there will be similarities.
Love you ED
Ed is sweet, but from the outside - let's be honest: it was a cash grab
Yeah 100%
She only acted that way after she lost to save face, they definitely trying to rob him and its disgusting that there STILL isn't laws in place to put false claimants behind bars.
If the police caught a burglar in your house they'd lock them up, so why not this type of thief?
Oh hell yeah no doubt
@@HereticDuohat’s because they’re 2 completely different scenarios, you can’t easily compare physical theft of property to intellectual property theft. It’s not as easy as that. For instance, one is a criminal matter (burglary) and the other is a civil matter (intellectual property theft) only in certain circumstances can it be a criminal offence and this is not one of them.
@@_hoodnerd_ it at least compares a little. Don't act like it doesn't compare at all
@@_hoodnerd_ if nothing else, slapp lawsuits are a form of assault
True artist are "arrogant". What i mean by that is we believe in our music, lyrics, etc. Ofcourse songwrites will take inspiration from somewhere or another song, but that is also because there are dozens of songs describing one moment or one feeling.
Although she was later interviewed and blamed it on an all white jury and also said “I didn’t lose, they cheated”
Very magnanimous of him. We can only hope it deters KG from pursuing more cases. Public sentiment towards her will only become increasingly hostile (and let's hope the legal fees bit).
The only person that needs deterrence in all this is David Pullman and his "Structured Asset Sales" outfit.
Sweetheart of a w been through hell
Now Timbaland on the other hand needs to credit and pay all the Arabic artists he copied off of for some of his biggest hits.
so true.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that
Hector is going to be running three Honda
civics with spoon engines, and on top of
that, he just went into Harry's and bought
three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec
exhaust system.
3 comments including me 🎉
Makes me sad that he won no more Ed would be brilliant
No more you would be brilliant.
A songwriter who uses these common chord progressions is obviously less creative than a songwriter who comes up with something uncommon. Both Marvin Gaye and Ed Sheehan use pretty much the same common chord progression with the same number of beats per chord and similar tempo. These chord progressions form the basis of both songs. The drum beat and basslines are also very similar. So these elements are the pre-made canvas upon which to create you own melody and lyrics. Songwriters who do this are actually writing less (being less creating and doing less creating) than songwriters who choose more unique chord progressions. Take the Mona Lisa, change her hair color and fingernail color change a couple things in the background and there you go. No copyright infringement. Steal without "stealing." Thank you Leonardo for doing the heavy lifting so I can profit.
Copyrighting a chord progression is dumb as hell and so are you
Unfortunately, this story ever so reminds GREATLY of how ELVIS PRESLEY robbed poor BLACK person's of color way down the south by stealing their songs and recording them and releasing them and profiting millions of dollars in album SALES over BLACK person's songs!!! SHEERAN most definitely committed copyright infringement Everybody with good EARS can hear that SHEERAN committed plagerism by sampling and recording the Gayes and the Townsend's song without their permission!!!! Its a doggone shame that the album he illegally recorded went diamond by selling over 10million copies and the Townsend's and the Gayes lost in court and weren't compensated monies it's just downright pitiful the discrimination BLACKS are up against in this pitiful country Anytime there is BLACK vs WHITE case in the courthouse BLACK person's always come out on the losing END 🤢🤢🤢
He did totally steal photograph. It was the exact same song
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poor dude had to miss his grandma's funeral to defend himself :(
glad they lost...lets hope reparations fails in the same historical manner in the USA.
cash grabbers are gonna cash grab...
Let just be real none of this matters. Ed sheeran could only dream of writing a song as good and timeless as let's get it on!
He has a track record of copying in a malicious subtle way.
can you prove that? if not don't talk shit
Time to rip off ed Sheeran songs…..what’s he gonna do sue? He will look like a hypocrite 😂
The song is not copied. The 2 bar vamp definitely is almost exactly the same tho. It's 4 chords. Three of which literally walk straight up the scale, then resolves 5>1, the most common resolution of the millennia. The harmonic rhythm moving on the and of 2 was the best pro-plagarism argument they had
Drum groove is 8ths on the hat, snare on 2-4, prototypical beat. For the past century copyright has only covered melody and lyrics. The lawsuit didn't have any ground to stand on from the beginning. But I can definitely see how non-musicians could hear the same two bar vamp and easily be swayed by an 'expert witness' being paid to say whatever. The electronics industry went thru these frivolous lawsuits back in the day which is why you can't copyright an electric circuit design, Only a full product. It stifles growth. You can't copyright the fact that running electricity thru little wires will toast bread lol but if you have a great design for a toaster with a separate timer on each side whatever else, you can get a patent for the idea as a whole but you have to prove your design has gone beyond simply how the physical world works. Chords walking up a scale and resolving 5-1 is just how the harmonic world works.