WE FOUND IT! - The Holy Grail Marble Divider

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  • @pluribus_unum
    @pluribus_unum 6 місяців тому +3283

    Divide is conquered!

  • @MisterBrickalew
    @MisterBrickalew 6 місяців тому +4288

    Rossero, after years of frustration, is finally vindicated.

    • @maxwell_edison
      @maxwell_edison 6 місяців тому +81

      goated patience

    • @vedranlucev1837
      @vedranlucev1837 6 місяців тому +294

      Rossero will end up designing the entire marble machine, Martin just has to assemble it.

    • @LanceThumping
      @LanceThumping 6 місяців тому +70

      It could be worse, there are some channels that will ask for feedback then ignore it and never come back to listen to suggestions for improvement.

    • @Real28
      @Real28 6 місяців тому +62

      That is absolutely on brand that it was already presented and reviewed 3 years ago 🤣🤣🤣

    • @cocon16_PW
      @cocon16_PW 6 місяців тому +53

      @@Real28 and so completely misunderstood. It even had "height regulator" in the title 😂

  • @user-zx3zm7bd5i
    @user-zx3zm7bd5i 6 місяців тому +145

    I remember watching the original review of Rosseros design and thinking "This solves all of Martins problems!"... And then Martin goes on to ignore it for 3 years xD

  • @cavedog1279
    @cavedog1279 6 місяців тому +46

    With 3D printing, there is no rule that says the divider must remain in 2D. In theory, you could take the tracks and arrange them in a rotary layout and achieve the same result. This would be even more compact, especially if the 'steps' were all oriented in the same direction.

  • @generessler6282
    @generessler6282 6 місяців тому +503

    Great! In software, which is my field, there is a 30-year old aphorism uttered by a past engineer: "It will take about a week to get it working, and another month to make it simple." The idea is that solving a problem in the simplest possible way is both difficult and the best way to go. ...which is SOOO true. Congrats on growing as an engineer.

    • @cunt5000
      @cunt5000 6 місяців тому +5

      oof this rings so true

    • @jameshall1300
      @jameshall1300 6 місяців тому +12

      Paring something down to it's bare essentials and keeping the functionality is what separates a great engineer from a good one. It's great when you see something and it's just perfectly refined into something as simple as it could be, but still works perfectly.

    • @banaana1234
      @banaana1234 6 місяців тому +2

      Definitely tracks in mechanical engineering also, prototypes are usually not too difficult to make, but making something reliable and simple takes time.

    • @thomasbecker9676
      @thomasbecker9676 6 місяців тому +2

      He's *not* an engineer.

    • @OverloadOfRed
      @OverloadOfRed 6 місяців тому +5

      This is so true. I whipped up a prototype of a new application in 3 weeks by myself. Took almost 8 months to finalize the product with a team of 4 to finish it for customer deployment.

  • @A_Casual_NPC
    @A_Casual_NPC 6 місяців тому +232

    Holy damn, that's such a tidy and elegant solution, not just solving the problem. I love it

  • @TomaszKalusMusic
    @TomaszKalusMusic 6 місяців тому +88

    Dude, I've managed to finish two schools, spend two years in the university, change the major to another one and pass two semesters since the OG marble machine video was released, and the final marble machine is still not finished lol
    Gotta respect the dedication to continue this project for such a long time

    • @4Pssf2w
      @4Pssf2w 6 місяців тому +8

      There is a perverse incentive NOT to finish it, considering what the content of his channel is. That said, I believe he's genuinely trying his best with it. He's got to juggle a UA-cam career at the same time! Multi-talented!!!

    • @Cent51
      @Cent51 5 місяців тому +1

      He to much in his head with it..

  • @nicholasgallanis7539
    @nicholasgallanis7539 6 місяців тому +37

    Rossero deserves a V.I.P. backstage all access pass for them & a gust when your tour hits Rossero's town/city!

  • @Dysiode
    @Dysiode 6 місяців тому +633

    Keep in mind, this height balancer works from ANY divider input. You can still have cool looking aesthetical dividers backing the functional ones.

    • @caloster7664
      @caloster7664 6 місяців тому +60

      Just as long as the cool looking ones still don't get clogged right

    • @jameshogge
      @jameshogge 6 місяців тому +55

      This. A significant advantage of the old divider is how compact it was. For a large number of channels, a tree of y-splits will get quite large.
      Taking this levelling mechanism on its own removes the "height insensitivity" requirement and allows for an even better divider to be made

    • @lubricustheslippery5028
      @lubricustheslippery5028 6 місяців тому +1

      yea it should work with something similar to the old with the height wiggely cool fixer

    • @cymno
      @cymno 6 місяців тому +14

      ​@@jameshogge You don't need a tree. The height sensitivity is gone, so you can use the MMX ramp design. It will be twice as wide because each track has a width of two marbles instead of one, but otherwise the same. Could probably make the whole divider in one machined / printed part, or have small identical pieces for every track.

    • @Bumi-90
      @Bumi-90 6 місяців тому +13

      @@jameshogge The less compact nature of the new divider is lkess of a problem, because it is no longer important that it looks good, so you don't have the limited front space but can hide away bigger parts of the divider.
      But that is also one point i don't like about the new criteria, I will still like the videos, but I don't think I have any interest in watching a perfect instument that does not look cool playing perfect musik. And even the example with starship, Form does not always follow function. For example the nosecone is only this pointy, because elon wants it to look more like a cool Rocket, and it is not significantly worse, but just a bit.

  • @raubana
    @raubana 6 місяців тому +77

    Finally, Factorio gets acknowledged! I've been waiting for this forever! Makes me so happy.

  • @D3nn1s
    @D3nn1s 6 місяців тому +843

    "The starship is 100% form from function"
    Elon: "We made the tip pointy because it looks cool"

    • @barrygillis
      @barrygillis 6 місяців тому +238

      Anyone using musk as having great ideas is such a turnoff. I feel spacex is doing fairly well despite the guy.

    • @D3nn1s
      @D3nn1s 6 місяців тому +22

      @@barrygillis tbf he had some bright moment and many that werent as bright

    • @Wolfboy607
      @Wolfboy607 6 місяців тому +61

      "The missle is too round on the top! It needs to be pointy! Round isn't scary, pointy is scary!" Aladeen was not supposed to be the inspirational character in that story, but really what can you expect from people who self identify as Atlas Shrugged characters.

    • @TheThirdPrice
      @TheThirdPrice 6 місяців тому +72

      @@D3nn1s the engineers he pays have great moments

    • @kennetha6594
      @kennetha6594 6 місяців тому +10

      "Despite the guy." May I ask what company you started or run?@@barrygillis

  • @Remmes
    @Remmes 6 місяців тому +32

    Props for you for remembering seeing the design before and properly going back to find where and by who. Something so simple can still look cool.

  • @TheThirdPrice
    @TheThirdPrice 6 місяців тому +800

    If only martin listened to rossero more than musk, we might be on the world tour by now lol

    • @Schmidtelpunkt
      @Schmidtelpunkt 6 місяців тому +155

      Yep, one would have thought that a few antisemitic Xeets later he would start to take Musk's wisdom with a grain of salt...

    • @kalinunesferreira815
      @kalinunesferreira815 6 місяців тому

      It's sad to see Martin not only imply that Musk invented the "less dumb requirements" approach, but also not mention the hundreds if not thousands of real competent engineers that worked at SpaceX. The anti-semitic apartheid-profiting con man really sold his bs

    • @jakubgwozdz2780
      @jakubgwozdz2780 6 місяців тому +64

      @@Schmidtelpunkt not to mention that twitter, tesla and spacex are great examples how good actually musk is in "making things happen" :>

    • @pierrotA
      @pierrotA 6 місяців тому

      ​@@jakubgwozdz2780Twitter never was more rentable. Most people have accept the limitations, and even the troll name.
      Tesla is still the best seller of electric cars. Yes it cost a lot and most advanced functions cost even more, and yes he struggle to keep the lines, but it's still the most selled car.
      SpaceX have the only reusable rockets of the planets, and launch more rocket per years that ALL the countries in the world put together.
      Yes, his biggest projects are stupid, but he still do better that everyone else.
      Musk make sh*t and tranform it to gold, but in the expense of everyone... He is a good biznessman, but in no way an artist.

    • @DavidLindes
      @DavidLindes 6 місяців тому

      @@jakubgwozdz2780tesla and spacex: have systems in place to protect themselves from musk’s stupidities, do relatively alright; twitter: hadn’t had time to develop these systems, because it was an acquisition, so: went to xit. (Pronounce the x with an sh, of course.)
      Now, how do we design systems to protect Martin from Musk’s stupidities and/or Martin’s own fanboying?

  • @dr.robertnick9599
    @dr.robertnick9599 6 місяців тому +212

    You can put a clear cover on the divider, make it vertical and it will look cool, like the old marble divider

    • @theexchipmunk
      @theexchipmunk 6 місяців тому +30

      With the "stepped" zig zag paths it arguable would probably look even cooler.

    • @keiyakins
      @keiyakins 6 місяців тому +7

      Honestly, just the fact that marbles are moving through it makes it hard to not look at least a little cool.

  • @DPush420
    @DPush420 6 місяців тому +231

    Elon's step one was always "Hire someone better to do it" Good job Rossero.

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 6 місяців тому +13

      Only if Elon would listen to the these people.

    • @CottidaeSEA
      @CottidaeSEA 6 місяців тому +4

      It's a good idea to be honest. I consider myself a decently smart guy and I know a lot about my field of work. However, there'll always be someone who has specialized their domain knowledge further than I have. Elon Musk is a businessman before he is an engineer, he understands things, but he can't necessarily make the things himself.

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 6 місяців тому +4

      @@CottidaeSEA What do you think he understands? He makes very elementary mistakes on every field he is in bussiness and lies about what the product is capable of.

    • @CottidaeSEA
      @CottidaeSEA 6 місяців тому +2

      @@RanEncounter You never make mistakes?

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 6 місяців тому +5

      @@CottidaeSEA Who said I didn't? Can you actually not read at all? Do you think making mistakes is the same thing as making very elementary mistakes? I could understand him doing little mistakes here and there, but to make very elementary mistakes that literally undermine the whole bussiness is not a little mistake. He has done this over and over again.
      Also you did not address the lying part at all. He literally lies about most of his products to the point of fraud.
      You failed to answer the original question. So again what do you think he understands? What bussiness do you think he has a good understanding in?

  • @NordicSpartan
    @NordicSpartan 6 місяців тому +552

    Ironically, Elon also made the Starship more pointy than ideal because he thought it would look cooler than a rounded nose.

    • @pd28cat
      @pd28cat 6 місяців тому +44

      He watched General Aladeen too much

    • @Wolfboy607
      @Wolfboy607 6 місяців тому +60

      @@pd28cat The missle is too round on the top! It needs to be pointy! Round isn't scary... Pointy is scary!
      Why is the starship scary again?

    • @broccolidiego2053
      @broccolidiego2053 6 місяців тому +10

      The different in performance between round and pointy nose cone is minimal so either would have been fine. The problem only arise when the design is actively creating problem that shouldn't be there in the first place.

    • @Wolfboy607
      @Wolfboy607 6 місяців тому

      Drag coefficient says hello. Sure, in space it doesn't matter, the performance difference is minimal in near vacuum. Unfortunately, in the real world, we have to lift off from the gravity well of earth, through a thick atmosphere, and are all subject ultimately to the tyranny of the rocket equation. Every kilo of fuel is 1.4 kilos of reduced payload. It really does matter when the cost is over a million per kilo. This amounts to a power move.@@broccolidiego2053

    • @skilletborne
      @skilletborne 6 місяців тому +32

      @@broccolidiego2053 And you think fuel efficiency on a space craft isn't a major problem?
      This man wants to go to mars. That already was never going to happen, but with dumbass decisions like that, it's impossible to take that goal of his seriously

  • @tacoman10
    @tacoman10 6 місяців тому +181

    Wow. And when you put several of the zig zags next to each other they form hexagons. It's almost as if hexagons are the best-agons.😊

    • @AdelaeR
      @AdelaeR 6 місяців тому +11

      Beehives are like marble machines, but with honey. Somehow.

    • @321findus
      @321findus 6 місяців тому +8

      @@AdelaeR Sweet analogy, hon.
      (I'll show myself out)

    • @AdelaeR
      @AdelaeR 6 місяців тому +1

      @@321findus ROFL :-D

    • @jonathanmvkhai
      @jonathanmvkhai 6 місяців тому +2

      CGP Gray!

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 6 місяців тому

      Happy Saturnalia

  • @DoodleChaos
    @DoodleChaos 6 місяців тому +135

    Mind blown emoji doesn’t do this video justice 🤯. Seeing journey to this design, as well as the fact that it was hiding in plain sight from 3 years ago, has been an incredibly interesting and satisfying watch. Huge props to everyone that contributed! Hopefully more “holy grail” moments are to come!

    • @cinderwolf32
      @cinderwolf32 6 місяців тому +3

      I really shouldn't feel surprised that you're into this channel. It just makes sense. But I didn't expect it.

    • @Colnup
      @Colnup 6 місяців тому

      Oh hello

    • @AdelaeR
      @AdelaeR 6 місяців тому

      This story just became pretty epic.

    • @moonquake1881
      @moonquake1881 6 місяців тому +1

      Kinda proves that there is a vast amount of knowledge in the community. But making good use of it has always been a challenge.

  • @pacotesan
    @pacotesan 6 місяців тому +54

    I loled at using Elon "make your requirements less dumb" as an example since the cybertruck fiasco :D

    • @Cara.314
      @Cara.314 5 місяців тому

      crewed starship missions to mars by 2024, hyperloop maglev trains in near vaccume going 750 mph, cybertruck by 2022 for $40k, tesla FSD(level 4) without useful tech like lidar by 2018, so on, so forth.
      "If things go according to plan, we should be able to launch people probably in 2024 with arrival in 2025"
      "Fast forward to August 2013 when Musk unveils his concept, claiming that for just $6 billion he could build a hyperloop between LA and San Francisco that could cover the distance in about 32 minutes at about 750 mph."

    • @KingHalbatorix
      @KingHalbatorix 4 місяці тому

      What fiasco?

    • @budbin
      @budbin Місяць тому

      2 million preorders suggest it’s not exactly a fiasco

  • @Haceldama777
    @Haceldama777 6 місяців тому +13

    So awesome! Got to say I nearly had a panic attack when you were thinking about bringing back the modular tracks. I'm so happy for you that the "Holy Grail" was found. It's incredible seeing the level of expertise and enthusiasm for this project from everyone here. LETS GO MX3!

  • @slartibartfast2649
    @slartibartfast2649 6 місяців тому +220

    Fun fact: Starship was originally designed with a rounded nose, but Elon told his engineers to make it pointy because he thought it looked cooler, even though it was slightly worse performance wise.
    So not exactly form from function.

    • @weebnonce8327
      @weebnonce8327 6 місяців тому +21

      starship is pure future core aesthetics and a load of tripe!

    • @jacobsheffield9332
      @jacobsheffield9332 6 місяців тому +35

      Funny seeing a clip of Elon saying your design spec is too complicated a couple weeks after he just told his cybertruck engineers to machine their panels down to one onebillionth of a micron hahaha

    • @johnwolfenden7599
      @johnwolfenden7599 6 місяців тому +1

      That was my thought too, lol.
      But after the essentials are made and the machine works, I truly doubt martin won't be compelled to also make it look cool

    • @EightOneGulf
      @EightOneGulf 6 місяців тому +7

      Sure you are not quoting from the movie "the Dictator"?😅

    • @SuperCuriousFox
      @SuperCuriousFox 6 місяців тому +4

      A source for this claim would be appreciated, because I follow starship development quite closely and don’t remember any news about some original design with an even more rounded nose than the current starship design has. Or are you talking about the MCT or ITS days?

  • @mattmexor2882
    @mattmexor2882 6 місяців тому +266

    It seems so ingenious to me that if 4 people came up with it in such a short time I think it must be something that's already known in the engineering community. Under how similar a context I don't know, but surely it's there.

    • @nnelg8139
      @nnelg8139 6 місяців тому +98

      Factorio belt balancers.

    • @jameshall1300
      @jameshall1300 6 місяців тому +35

      It's probably similar to designing laminar flow setups in pipes. There's a good reason smoothed out Y pipes are so common, instead of just hard angles everywhere. Things that move fast don't usually like sharp bends and large velocity changes, so a step up/down process like this tends to be what is used.

    • @ToTheGAMES
      @ToTheGAMES 6 місяців тому +24

      @@nnelg8139 Factorio belt balancers are even more complex, because there are two sides of the belt that need individually balanced because the inserters grab mostly from one side of the belt ;P

    • @daemn42
      @daemn42 6 місяців тому +20

      Maybe those other people also saw the video from 3 years ago and realized that it could be used to solve a different problem (regulating height instead of pressure).

    • @Mike_Rogge
      @Mike_Rogge 6 місяців тому +20

      The presence of a calc textbook would also support that idea, in that Rossero is probably a mechanical, industrial, or mechanical systems engineer, or a student in one of those.

  • @Forakus
    @Forakus 6 місяців тому +22

    Okay, I wasn't sure why you were so excited but that demonstration around 4:00 was incredible, great design!

  • @mebutoldernow
    @mebutoldernow 6 місяців тому +34

    So what I learned and urge you: Please quote and listen to Rossero not Musk!

  • @JasonDishong
    @JasonDishong 6 місяців тому +50

    My whole family is just waiting for the next marble machine. We still love that first one. Keep on keeping on!

    • @elizzievb
      @elizzievb 6 місяців тому +3

      Not to be the Party Pooper but I am just waiting for Martin the Musician to take back over from Martin the Engineer…I miss Wintergatan. Going back to watch vids from the old days once again and be sad…😢

  • @BeniRoseMusic
    @BeniRoseMusic 6 місяців тому +7

    I literally gasped at 3:50 when the marble stack moved a full marble position! Truly the holy grail of a reliable marble divider!

  • @kodez79
    @kodez79 6 місяців тому +17

    Just to be clear, Starship is not 100% form from function. It has a pointy nose due to Elon watching The Dictator, and following his advice there.

  • @Dysiode
    @Dysiode 6 місяців тому +66

    Note: Elon Musk isn't actually a designer, or even an individual contributor. People he hires do all the work. Remember, he thought a water deluge system was a dumb requirement.

    • @bagodrago
      @bagodrago 6 місяців тому +10

      Elon is literally the king of dumb design requirements.

    • @rascal3042
      @rascal3042 6 місяців тому +11

      I cant think of a more overrated person. Doofus just regurgitates what others tell him.

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 6 місяців тому +1

      Actually he has made considerable contributions to the design and engineering of products both for SpaceX and Tesla. Especially in the area of simplifying things, which has paid dividends in both companies. He's a clever guy and studied the fields his companies are active in (and by studied I don't mean read a few "for dummies" books). But he's not infallible and he has been stubborn about some decidedly silly decisions. Like "no LIDAR, ever" in his self driving car.

    • @Dysiode
      @Dysiode 6 місяців тому +9

      @@kaasmeester5903 actually he bought Tesla from someone else, and maybe he contributed to SpaceX in the very beginning but that's certainly not the case now. Unless you count 80 hour work weeks and forcing welders to use I injection to stay hydrated as contributing.
      Let's not forget his contribution to transportation, the hyperloop which was definitely a real idea and not a scheme to derail California's High-speed Rail plans

    • @rascal3042
      @rascal3042 6 місяців тому

      Sure he has. @@kaasmeester5903

  • @oscarscholten2059
    @oscarscholten2059 6 місяців тому +7

    Rossero for the F*ck'n win! This guy is so fricking smart!

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 6 місяців тому +2

      I often wonder how much more progress could be made if Martin and Rossero collaborated more. The potential for innovation is massive!

  • @BishamonS
    @BishamonS 6 місяців тому +9

    I love that have spent years watching this channel and seeing you go from very overly engineered things to simplified effective and efficient things. It’s been an incredible engineering journey so far.

    • @NOLAfugee
      @NOLAfugee 6 місяців тому +3

      I'm proud of him for ending his quest to reinvent everything, like bearings. Just buy the right parts, buddy.

    • @NeonNijahn
      @NeonNijahn 6 місяців тому +1

      It's like the journey from Architect to Engineer

    • @BishamonS
      @BishamonS 6 місяців тому

      I agree with both of your statements! It’s a sign of true growth assuming we’ve all been here from the beginning, it’s been just awesome

  • @nayosk8899
    @nayosk8899 6 місяців тому +32

    So cool and beautiful with this kind of organic hexagonal pattern ❤🙏
    I'd be interested in the math behind this.
    Ps: I learn a lot in design from your journey Martin, but pleeeease stop quoting Elon 😢

  • @griffinhunter3206
    @griffinhunter3206 6 місяців тому +78

    i don't think that Elon can really say anything after the cybertruck tbh, but i do love how you apply the idea of having things be less dumb.

    • @BboyKeny
      @BboyKeny 6 місяців тому +1

      Maybe that's how Elon learned that lesson 🤔

    • @griffinhunter3206
      @griffinhunter3206 6 місяців тому +31

      @@BboyKeny except he's still doing whatever the hell hes doing with twitter lol

    • @Iangamebr
      @Iangamebr 6 місяців тому +1

      What do you mean?

    • @griffinhunter3206
      @griffinhunter3206 6 місяців тому +16

      @@Iangamebr cybertrucks being made of flat panels makes any tiny dent pop out, it makes the gaps between panels huge for modern cars, and it ruins any possible areodynamics. Also, its harder to make flat panels than curved panels. The truck is just flat for aesthetics.

    • @griffinhunter3206
      @griffinhunter3206 6 місяців тому +4

      @@cladaes9127 rockets admittedly don't, and i don't have much to say about that, just about the things his companies are doing that are really really stupid.

  • @dizzolve
    @dizzolve 6 місяців тому +62

    10:10 Elon just needs to apply some of his theories to 'life'

    • @Junker-sq6pu
      @Junker-sq6pu 6 місяців тому +28

      He prob stole it from someone else. Like all his great "inventions"

    • @syber-space
      @syber-space 6 місяців тому +27

      Yeah... It's really painful as someone with friends in the trans community to see Martin happily singing the praises of a man who has caused more pain and suffering for them than nearly anyone else... I hope he finds better role models and examples in the future... His work is so much better than that.

    • @will9703
      @will9703 6 місяців тому

      ​@@syber-spaceabloo bloo bloo.

    • @userPrehistoricman
      @userPrehistoricman 6 місяців тому

      best life is no life

    • @tazzorn
      @tazzorn 6 місяців тому

      You do know you can separate someone’s achievements and insight from their personal shitiness right? Like Porsche, Einstein, VW, Walt Disney? Porsche and VW were Nazi companies that helped Hitler design the original bug. Einstein’s work lead to the deaths of millions. Walt Disney was a misogynistic and racist man. All of these are glossed over. An asshole is gonna asshole. Doesnt mean the asshole doesnt have a good idea.

  • @mentaman
    @mentaman 3 місяці тому

    Love this video, combining music, design, and science. Keep them coming!

  • @j.l.5867
    @j.l.5867 6 місяців тому +7

    Simply a beautiful solution. Congratulations to the knights of the holy divider.

  • @bagodrago
    @bagodrago 6 місяців тому +11

    Guys, no one tell Martin what Elon's been up to lately...

  • @nataze6127
    @nataze6127 6 місяців тому +221

    11:05 not its not. Starship is too pointy. Rounded is slightly better. They did it because of the movie: „Dictator”, and thought it would look better

    • @Dysiode
      @Dysiode 6 місяців тому +54

      Classic Elon Mush brain right there

    • @Turtleswan
      @Turtleswan 6 місяців тому +12

      ​@@Dysiodeclassic r/whoosh there

    • @MetroidChild
      @MetroidChild 6 місяців тому +6

      There are mechanical benefits to the starship being (slightly) pointy, remember the ship is bottom heavy when re-entering the atmosphere, this means the front needs to have less aero drag in order to fall horizontally, the balance is so bad without a payload they've opted to put the LOX tank at the front in order to try and balance it.

    • @syber-space
      @syber-space 6 місяців тому +108

      Yeah... I really hope Martin finds better role models to quote... Quoting from a rich a-hole who causes active harm to minority and economically challenged groups isn't a great look, even if that individual did contribute in some ways to the creation of something cool.

    • @AdelaeR
      @AdelaeR 6 місяців тому

      @@syber-space Utter nonsense. Mr. Musk is doing nothing wrong and is simply being smeared by the corrupt media and their political masters because he is against suppression of speech and goes against their party line.

  • @mation5172
    @mation5172 6 місяців тому +24

    I'm imagining the very last episode of MM design be like this: "We had the finished MM03 in front of us for five years! What were we doing?"
    Than, taking an angle grinder and reducing the entire thing into a Xylophone.🙆‍♂

  • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
    @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 6 місяців тому +1

    I'e been watching these videos for so many years now and it always amazes me how something that looks so simple is so amazingly difficult. Very Well Done!

  • @jacebeleren9290
    @jacebeleren9290 6 місяців тому +35

    Something I've noticed regarding all this talk of dividers is that there's not been much on the topic of THROUGHPUT. Of course, no part is the best part in this ideal as well; having one lane for each channel is going to make for perfect throughput. However, I acknowledge your point about instrument proximity making 1:1 channel/belt ratios unlikely if not impossible. Therefore, to maintain maximum throughput, making decisions on the locations of your instruments and marble catch funnels on the final machine could take priority over the marble piping and divider logistics so that you can make only as many dividers as you need to maximize throughput and conserving material.

    • @blackest3314
      @blackest3314 6 місяців тому

      I don't know, it seems that he would need a single split for channel, at the most (like a fast double note on a hit hat). But again, maybe two or three fast marbles from the same channels would work anyway. I don't know if having a system-wide splitting system is really needed. Separate channels offer a better solution, and at least something worth exploring.
      But ehi, maybe he already tried. Not saying it's easy to implement, but it definitely offers many pros (MODULARITY -just add a new channel when you need it, EASY FIX - if a specific channel doesn't work you don't need to fix the whole machine, NO DIVIDER).
      Dunno, I feel he just dismissed the idea without testing, because, you know, a marble machine needs a marble divider, because it has always been the case.
      Maybe I'm wrong eh.

  • @Emariess
    @Emariess 6 місяців тому +376

    Question: why don’t you put a small lip around every surface in your studio…? just to stop the floor marble situation.

    • @scottlife1697
      @scottlife1697 6 місяців тому +73

      But, the meme!

    • @mikaschtroumpf
      @mikaschtroumpf 6 місяців тому +57

      Or turn the whole studio into a marble machine.

    • @TheStarMachine2000
      @TheStarMachine2000 6 місяців тому +50

      You ever rested your forearms on something like that? It is uniquely painful after a while, especially when you are trying to focus.

    • @RhumpleOriginal
      @RhumpleOriginal 6 місяців тому +8

      But I like the floor marbles 😢

    • @dont-want-no-wrench
      @dont-want-no-wrench 6 місяців тому +44

      his new lab will have a drain in the middle and parabolic slope down to it from all sides, with a recirculating elevator

  • @lightningwingdragon973
    @lightningwingdragon973 6 місяців тому +7

    Elon has literally stated that the nose cone of the rocket is more pointy "just because".
    It's the complete opposite of form from function lol

  • @DKrog
    @DKrog 6 місяців тому +5

    This is honestly so incredibly ingenious and simple. I love it.

  • @viktormoraes9876
    @viktormoraes9876 6 місяців тому +13

    My most beloved notification

  • @XIIchiron78
    @XIIchiron78 6 місяців тому +6

    11:02 so you say, but Elon also admitted that they made the nose pointy simply because it looks cooler lol

  • @667link5
    @667link5 6 місяців тому

    I love the progress on this project! I admire your tenacity and passion. Remember, it's ok to rest and focus on yourself.

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 6 місяців тому

    Awesome work finding the perfect marble divider! It's great how the simple design came from your fans. Can't wait to see it in action on your next machine! Keep it up!

  • @gordon1201
    @gordon1201 6 місяців тому +16

    You're wrong about form from function with starship 😂 The nose cone was made pointy just because they wanted it to look cool. There's an interview with Elon where he says so

    • @dread_nought
      @dread_nought 6 місяців тому

      You believe this guy's a fraudster yet believe that an offhanded quip he made on a podcast is genuine. Reconsider your values.

  • @nickgoodall578
    @nickgoodall578 6 місяців тому +9

    Sometimes this channel is frustrating, watching Martin try to invent the bearing housing for example. But then a video like this comes along and beautifully illustrates a bunch of cool concepts. Bravo!

    • @thomasbecker9676
      @thomasbecker9676 6 місяців тому

      Except like bearings, those concepts are also well-understood.

    • @elvishkat
      @elvishkat 6 місяців тому +2

      Beautifully illustrates that he was given a solution years ago and forgot about it.

  • @lo-firobotboy7112
    @lo-firobotboy7112 6 місяців тому +5

    If only Martin had looked to industrial food processing machines, he would have seen similar mechanisms for separating candy and such.

  • @StuddMuffinn_YT
    @StuddMuffinn_YT 6 місяців тому +4

    You can use the clear vertical marble columns even with the stepped dividers. You are not limited in just left to right zigzags. You can also go forwards or backwards, allowing for the best of both worlds. A great looking marble column, and all the benefits of the zigzag patterns reliability.

  • @DaftFader
    @DaftFader 6 місяців тому +18

    I'm glad you're getting better and better at using the hive mind to advance the MM! :)

  • @75viking75
    @75viking75 6 місяців тому +10

    As a watcher of the channel since the old wooden machine, I love that you've given this concept one last chance! I'll be coming to see you on that world tour!! You can't forget California! So I'll see you there! Much love!

  • @Mike-B-Jackson
    @Mike-B-Jackson 6 місяців тому +6

    11:03 - not 100% true - Musk made the nose “pointy” purely because he thought that’s how it should look ;). There’s an interview about it.

  • @Gomisan
    @Gomisan 6 місяців тому

    I'm really enjoying the return of this style of video, glad you're back at it!

  • @rollingballdave
    @rollingballdave 6 місяців тому +2

    Congratulations!!! I love the design!!

  • @shandoo981
    @shandoo981 6 місяців тому +3

    Genius! This is so amazing! I'm soo glad you continued your work and even more that the community is fully included again! ❤ Guys are PURE GOLD! 💪🏻❤️

  • @scaredyfish
    @scaredyfish 6 місяців тому +4

    So happy for this outcome, and also for this process - calling for solutions to a specific problem has focused the feedback you're getting into something you can use. I hope you use this more going forward.

  • @robd1365
    @robd1365 6 місяців тому +2

    My dear Brother loved this channel and watched every Wednesday without fail, with admiration and in awe of you and your wonderful creations. Sadly this episode was the last he would ever watch as he lost his battle with life on Monday 27th. I wish it was a Time Machine, not a marble machine as I’d be banging on the door to borrow it

  • @lolka359
    @lolka359 6 місяців тому

    OMG! This is so important, and finaly it is hereee!
    I always love Your videos and music.
    Just i'm SO exited for this..

  • @gernith
    @gernith 6 місяців тому +40

    "You literally told them to make the Starship more pointy because of the movie 'The Dictator?'" a chuckling Rogan asked.
    "Yep. And they know it, too," Musk replied with a laugh. "It's not like they're unaware of it. I thought it would be funny to make it more pointy, so we did."

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 6 місяців тому +9

      This confirms my theory that Elon has always been trying to be a dictator!

    • @ofsinope
      @ofsinope 6 місяців тому +52

      Thank you... Musk's junk is all form over function... look at the stupid Cybertruck. Huge cringe when Martin quoted Musk as if this is a good source of engineering wisdom... 🤮

    • @Ben-uk5qt
      @Ben-uk5qt 6 місяців тому +12

      @@ofsinopehe isn’t an engineer lmao

    • @nipzie
      @nipzie 6 місяців тому +3

      @@ofsinope You're jealous of someone who's far more creative than you, and it shows. You have no other reason to hate him, even though he's tackling problems no one else is bothering with because it's too difficult. Get a grip...

    • @Hunangsir
      @Hunangsir 6 місяців тому +7

      my exact thought when Martin told about form from function

  • @AnthonyFammartino
    @AnthonyFammartino 6 місяців тому +14

    "Perfection every time" and a beautiful design! Congrats!

  • @TheZombieSaints
    @TheZombieSaints 6 місяців тому

    These are totally amazing solutions to these tricky problems. Really amazing stuff!

  • @kylemossi
    @kylemossi 6 місяців тому

    I applaud you Martin! We all watched you struggle to make this one work and you finally NAILED it man. GREAT JOB You are an inspiration.

  • @DenKonZenith
    @DenKonZenith 6 місяців тому +29

    In theory, could do the zig-zag in full 3D too, if you needed a flatter vertical path.

  • @Tekay37
    @Tekay37 6 місяців тому +42

    Only downside of this design is that it's not going to be very silent, because the marbles aren't moving smoothly along the track. You'll have to find a way to isolate the noise.

    • @Square1production
      @Square1production 6 місяців тому +15

      The noise of the marbles moving is the point, isn't it? Otherwise you could just build a giant multi instrument music box.

    • @JaharNarishma
      @JaharNarishma 6 місяців тому +12

      @@Square1production Martin has stated several times that the noise from the tracks, the divider etc. is unwanted. Therefore Martin has used silicone along with other material in order to reduce noise.

    • @Tristan-mc4wm
      @Tristan-mc4wm 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Square1production He has mentioned multiple times that he would like the marbles to move and be caught silently, It's also one of his "nice to have" design requirements. The point of using marbles it's the visuals and the design challenge. not the noise they make,
      The noise making part is left to the instruments.

    • @MarkkuS
      @MarkkuS 6 місяців тому

      Its weird he hates the sound, since I feel like most of his original viewers are here because of the marble machine song. And the machine noise is an instrument of its own.

    • @wtrbns
      @wtrbns 6 місяців тому +2

      Probably we don't get an accurate view of how loud all those channels combined are compared to the instruments

  • @iamgrays
    @iamgrays 6 місяців тому +1

    Amazing stuff! What community and what a wonderfully elegant solution. Congratulations to all those that suggested it.

  • @tobiasribisch712
    @tobiasribisch712 6 місяців тому

    hey martin, I've been following your journey from the start of marble machine x, and i realized that I'm learning so much interesting stuff just by watching you, so thank you!! seeing you this happy puts a smile on my face

  • @higolon
    @higolon 6 місяців тому +51

    Elon Musk talking about less dumb design is peak comedy xD

    • @georgesos
      @georgesos 6 місяців тому +7

      It seems our host here likes the snake oil salesman....

  • @eternalprogression
    @eternalprogression 6 місяців тому +12

    This is by far the coolest Channel and community to ever be. The way we are all watching and working towards this one beautiful goal is amazing. And the idea of being able to come see it when you are on tour is so amazing. There is just no way that I would miss it. After all the years of watching you build this thing, we all have an obligation to go and make sure you sell out!!! Good luck Martin and I know I will see you on tour one day soon!!

  • @akvilio
    @akvilio 6 місяців тому

    Martin, you are amazing! I have been watching all your videos since day 1 and I have seen the way you made and still making and I wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything. You inspired me to continue my fight for a degree in neurobiology to study Alzheimer’s disease and maybe help to find the cure. My grandfather passed away in January this year of it. So thank you again and please don’t give up, we all here for you and with you till the victorious end. Much love ❤

  • @coolguyselwyn2000
    @coolguyselwyn2000 6 місяців тому +1

    i cannot WAIT for the tour... every time we get another step closer i get more and more excited

  • @soramtipu3928
    @soramtipu3928 6 місяців тому +8

    Awesome work 👍 congratulations 🎉 keep it up 💯

  • @MikeMcCaffrey
    @MikeMcCaffrey 6 місяців тому +4

    "The starship is 100% form from function" would be a lot more believable if Elon wasn't on record saying that he told the engineers to make the tip more pointy because he watched The Dictator where they made their rocket pointy because "round is not scary".

  • @maximecloutier-gravel8908
    @maximecloutier-gravel8908 4 місяці тому

    This is such an elegant solution. I love it !

  • @tursilion
    @tursilion 6 місяців тому +2

    That was great, and so many clever designs!

  • @kiloftd
    @kiloftd 6 місяців тому +5

    we do not stan elon in this house

  • @user-yw9mw9hv8o
    @user-yw9mw9hv8o 6 місяців тому +7

    I agree star ship is perfected form from function for a low earth orbit debris field launcher!!! ;)
    But that marble divider is delicious.

  • @jimbobjoe
    @jimbobjoe 6 місяців тому

    That might be the coolest thing you have graced us with. Outstanding work to you and your community!

  • @PhilDugre
    @PhilDugre 6 місяців тому

    First video in a long time bringing back the vibe !!!!

  • @InventorZahran
    @InventorZahran 6 місяців тому +7

    Not every idea from the MMX era was bad! Sometimes the best solution is one that has already been suggested but ignored.

    • @umchoyka
      @umchoyka 6 місяців тому +7

      Most of the best solutions were ignored...

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 6 місяців тому +9

      @@umchoyka I mean, he *is* a fan of Elon after all, so that's not a surprise... :P

    • @muharremsuz
      @muharremsuz 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@LordDragox412sadly. I cant believe how

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 6 місяців тому +1

      @@muharremsuz *MARBLE LOOP*

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 6 місяців тому +4

    Elon apparently didn't listen to himself when he made the cyber truck. XD

  • @dav3109an
    @dav3109an 6 місяців тому

    Love seeing your progress, keep it up!

  • @Pit_stains
    @Pit_stains 6 місяців тому

    I love videos like this. Show a problem, and explain how you overcome the problem.

  • @Dysonsphere42
    @Dysonsphere42 6 місяців тому +4

    That's genius! this is why this community is so great! exited to see this whole project come to life again!!

  • @falllenshadow
    @falllenshadow 6 місяців тому +22

    So this is no longer a genuine attempt at making music, but an infinite project that will never finish. Its been many years and hes still endlessly developing.

    • @taliesinriver
      @taliesinriver 6 місяців тому +2

      He's just a person - interests and priorities can change. He's not obliged to make music just because we would like it

    • @endeloide4048
      @endeloide4048 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@taliesinriveriirc that's not all about it. Some people has poured donos and time to help him with marble machine X because that was his original goal, then suddenly he took a sharp turn, started to cites Elon Musk, and dropped the MMX project to pursue "perfection". While it's within his rights to do whatever he wants, but doing it that way has made many who supported him in his original pursuit of touring with MMX disappointed, again, after they supported him to that extent only for him to change the course so abruptly. At least that's how I remember what happened because I was only watching from the side the entire time and stopped when he suddenly changed the project, though it's still somewhat related to MMX. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @taliesinriver
      @taliesinriver 6 місяців тому +5

      @@endeloide4048 yeah I actually agree I guess, I wasn't considering that people are actively supporting him

  • @therevoman
    @therevoman 6 місяців тому +1

    This is so fun to watch. Both engineering and music are tightly coupled with Math and are beautiful when they come together!

  • @fresk9139
    @fresk9139 6 місяців тому

    Amazing video! This gives so much hope and excitement for the marble machine

  • @kreuner11
    @kreuner11 6 місяців тому +5

    the starship was litteraly made to look like a toy rocket though, the design was a big consideration.. and elon asked it to be more pointy..

  • @gabrielleirbag9290
    @gabrielleirbag9290 6 місяців тому +13

    Hi! We can see the little bounce at the divider position when it's empty of marbles, is there any risk of that hapening at high bpm, preventing free flow? and propagate upward... Btw, hexagon is the BESTAGON!

  • @bruhh9040
    @bruhh9040 6 місяців тому

    This is the first time I've seen your video,
    and I'm amazed by this community,
    it's really great and educate each other

  • @ppkus
    @ppkus 6 місяців тому +1

    SWEET!!!! can't wait for a new machine to be up and running!!! Talent you have to make any song amazing, now that this problem is solved im also excited for the new wonders you will come up with!

  • @dascommissar5264
    @dascommissar5264 6 місяців тому +6

    “Make your requirements less dumb…”
    On the one hand, wintergarten chooses a perfect marble divider.
    On the other hand…
    *cough*
    CYBERTRUCK
    *cough*

  • @user-mu2ze3xi1y
    @user-mu2ze3xi1y 6 місяців тому +3

    The starship is not 100% form from function. Elon is on record saying he asked for it to be more pointy specifically to look less phallic. They would gain a fraction of a percentage point more payload to orbit if they went for a more blunt body design, lol.

  • @JooseNerd
    @JooseNerd 6 місяців тому

    I want to say, as someone constantly looking for videos with an awesome element of science enquiry & genuinely brilliant, awesome, entertaining & meaningingful content, this video, along with all of your videos (which is why I'm a longstanding viewer) was amazing.
    Specifically when you acknowledged the submissions that went 'The best solution is no problem.'
    There was such a genuine, heartfelt understanding and compassion in your responding to them, and this is definitely something that I would try to find messages in to show students in classrooms, on-par with my growing playlist of 'Learning from Failure'.

  • @anthonygriffin6868
    @anthonygriffin6868 6 місяців тому +1

    This is a HUGE lesson. Ask the right question and remove dumb requirements.

  • @Suro_One
    @Suro_One 6 місяців тому +5

    Awesome ❤

  • @wolfschwarzmond
    @wolfschwarzmond 6 місяців тому +9

    Martin I really worry that in your quest to build the perfect marble machine, you've forgotten that its primary purpose to make music. The machine only needs to work for a tour. Then like any machine you can take it back into the shop, perform maintenance and refit it for the next tour.

    • @danielcardwell5457
      @danielcardwell5457 6 місяців тому

      Would you play a tour with a guitar that breaks 3 strings mid way in every 3 hour gig and not be able to repair it in time

  • @NicHills
    @NicHills 6 місяців тому +1

    Loved this - solving a problem is only half a job, refining and simplifying is the real work :)

  • @infernofarms2927
    @infernofarms2927 6 місяців тому

    Congrats on your re-discovery of this solution. So excited for the progress. I can feel the MM3 getting closer and closer. Can’t wait for the world tour. Keep up the good work.