The MLS is gradually improving. Since the Apple TV deal started MLS Season Pass, Apple has been pressuring the MLS to sign better players. It is my belief that Apple will greatly help draw higher levels of talent than what has been previously showcased in the MLS.
Apple won’t be a big draw unless you are nearing the latter stages of your career. What brings talent is the honours you can win MLS honours are not very prestigious.
It won't the big Stars go for 100 Mio a season to Saudi after they won everything in Europe, with that money not even Apple can compete and on merrrit the US can also not compete.
MLS is in regards to money on par with 2.Bundesliga, the sallaries in the Championship are steep, even compared to the 1.Bundesliga. The difference between PL and Bundesliga is that the Bundesliga does not allow to sell a majority of a club to investors, 49.9% is allowed, PL clubs are owned by billionaires, Bundesliga-Teams are still owned by the Clubs.
The second category is completely meaningless. The highest paid player is going to make a lot but that's because it's always an old top EU player and they kind of have to offer him a high salary to get him to come. It says absolutely nothing about the actual quality of the league.
@@tim7140 The Saudi Pro League is not strong in comparison to the top EU leagues but I would say that it is stronger than MLS. There are players in the Saudi league that are below the age of 30 and come from top EU clubs.
@@itotallycare Fair but aside from the best clubs and mby the top players from the ones below, you can see that the baselevel Talent becomes very liacking like worse than an average MLS player.
The problem in the US ,as I see it, is that it doesn't have the grass roots of young kids playing football, unlike in Europe where there is a very broad base of the pyramid. Even small towns, and villages, have teams, in Britain, for example, and kids learn to kick a ball from a very young age, with their parents.
The problem, from my view, is that it is pay-to-play in the US youth leagues. It's going to be a real uphill battle as long as prospective players have to invest in the game rather than the leagues investing in them.
Keep in mind that MLS is a relatively new league and the goal of MLS (as the organization) is not to be the a top league globally but to be as lucrative as possible 🤑 The very strict roster rules and salary cap limit the level of the league but also help to sustain it and every year the quality gets a little bit better
Global football rankings power index that he uses used to be a great tool. It hasn’t been updated in 2-3 years. I guess it’s owners abandoned it or something. It doesn’t really carry much weight anymore. The opta power rankings are the credible option now and they are compiled by opta, the company that compiles all the match statistics for networks like ESPN and BBC.
The fan attendance is a difficult one for England, because of the promotion/relegation. Like, this season - we have a lot of big teams with big stadiums and lots of fans, Leeds, Sunderland, Leicester, Southampton - all in the Championship. Then we have teams with small stadiums and smaller fanbases, like Bournemouth, Luton, Brentford in the Prem. So that will always lower the average attendance, even though basically every match is at pretty much 100% capacity. People get into the Prem just depedant on the ability of their players. Whereas, to get accepted into the MLS you would have to prove that you're capable of filling a big stadium with fans. That said, from what I've seen of the MLS. And when I've seen MLS players come over to England - I'd pretty much agree with this guy's idea of where they would be.
As an English fan of football I enjoy watching MLS. My biggest bug bear with MLS, this will surprise you, is Lionel Messi at Inter Miami. While it is a great move commercially, and it may encourage youngsters to strive to compete at a higher level, I think it kills competition. When the addition of Messi can result in an immediate success for a new team it must be disappointing for the general fan of MLS that one player can turn a team into an immediate success. You can only hope that the positives will be an absolute benefit in the long run. As I understand it the MLS have only just started really investing in academies (youth team football schools). This will bring the biggest benefit to MLS. Good youth coaching is the way to improve quality. However, from what I hear (I don't know if this is correct), academy players have to pay to be coached. That's a no no. The best players nearly always come from poor backgrounds ( it makes them motivated to work hard to be the best), and would be unable to pay their way through an academy. In the UK kids, as young as 8 or 9 years old, are playing in schools leagues or Sunday leagues (amateur football leagues - teams are divided into age groups, under 10s, under 12s, under 15s, under 18s). Clubs have open trials and kids that may be gifted can try out for professional club academies. Don't forget it's 175 years of soccer history that have built this game in the UK. We have developed these leagues over a very long time. The professional clubs do not charge for coaching, hoping to reap the benefit 8 or 10 years down the line with homegrown players. Additional to this, many English clubs recruit good foreign youth players into their academies. The MLS is a young organisation, the US is huge with a massive population. I don't know if they could cope with open trials ( the number of hopefuls would, I imagine, be prodigious, overwhelming the clubs abilities to grade them). The way to go would be to have coaches of youth and schools teams recommend their best players to go for try outs. Sorry about this long comment. I get carried away when talking football. Like most football fans I have an opinion. The point I am failing to make is that I have seen MLS improve year on year. It is quite an open league, there are always a few teams vying for the top spot. This is healthy for football. A relegation system would be better, but that can come later. The only problem is importing a player like Messi who can restrict the level of competition. He can turn a team into a dominant force. Thereby relegating ( that word again but in a different context) other clubs to chasing the second spot.
Personally I'd say the standard of MLS is somewhere around the low-end Championship level currently (it is improving all the time, mind) you can't compare it to the big leagues in Europe (Premier League, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A) I'd go as far to say MLS is a better overall league than Scotland (apart from Rangers and Celtic, the SPL is a hard league to watch sometimes)
@DaxRaider I watch both and they are similar, I don't buy too much into the rankings, I just go by what I see, I think MLS is closer to a top 10 league than a lot of them say, ive got a few of my mates watching it, it's really a pretty good league, yes there are improvements they could make (like raising the salary cap) but all in due time, its miles ahead of where it once was
OK, here's the bigger question: Which leagues, top to bottom, have more parity/disparity? La Liga is usually Real and Barca and a lot of tomato cans. EPL is the Champions League places and a lot of tomato cans. Not saying that parity is what's MOST important, but that was the No Fun League's business model from the 1930's onward-- Bert Bell didn't want one team going 12 and 0 and another 0 and 12, and so competitive balance was the watchword. It almost doesn't matter if the top MLS teams stack up against an EPL, La Liga, Serie A or whatever bottom team. It's how MANY MLS teams on their best day would defeat any team in a Euro top flight on that other team's worst day, i.e., how far down the ladder before the outcome comes practically a certainty?
This video is either outdated or they are looking at attendance for the couple of years after COVID. MLS averaged around 22,000/game in the two years prior to COVID and again last year, and they are averaging almost 25,000/game this year (Messi effect).
promotion/relegation need to come with open the cap limit, that's the key, after that will rain sponsors, better players, better quiality and competition. and make 2 league players to improve and play better to reach firs tleague, and teams in first league to spend more and play better to stay up. Win - win for everybody
So when you were first getting into football with your mate and yous both chose a team you picked Newcastle United. But I’ve not heard you talk about them since so wondering if they are still your team ?
Damn, forest Green has had some misfortune since the vid was made. Im an Arsenal fan & I remember watching Man City Vs Gillingham in the play off final in 2000. How that game changed their fortunes.
I was expecting him to rank MLS against the top leagues in Europe. Aside from a local interest in who gets promoted to the Premier League and who drops to the Championship, nobody really cares. Some German who watches Liverpool isn't going to care that Leicester City is getting promoted and that Sheffield United is going down. And obviously going further down it gets more and more localised.
MLS is about league 2 but with much higher salaries imo I have 2 friends who couldn’t even play professionally in this country but got MLS contracts as soon as they left the academy this video is pretty bias tbf Arsenal played the MLS all stars and made them look like farmers
I think league 1/bottom championship teams. Championship is really underrated, u will notice alot of players that do well there, score about the same goals in prem and other big leagues (toney gyokores watkins etc), but league 2 is pushing it
@@tosexe2535 Yeah to say MLS is League 2 standard is laughable, has probably never seen a L2 game to compare it to. I think it's a fair assessment to say MLS is somewhere around mid to lower Championship. With a couple of teams that might push for the playoffs
You clearly have no actual idea what you're talking about, just speaking out your ass. MLS clubs play 2nd division European sides all the time in their preseasons. England, Spain, Germany, etc. They lose some, but also win some. Sure, it's a friendly, but the MLS players are in early pre-season form while the European sides are all usually mid-season and match-fit.
And keep in mind that this is compared to one other league pyramid. I'd rank at least Germany's Bundesliga, France's Ligue Un, Italy's Serie A, and Spain's La Liga above the MLS. Other countrie's top leagues that might be in the EFL Championship/MLS vicinity would include Portugal's, The Netherlands', Belgium's, and Türkiye's. Maybe even a couple more.
MLS and Saudi league are one of the fastest growing league in the world. People are waiting for the 2026 world cup to see how much MLS gets boosted after this.
Fun facts. England has 4 leagues with 92 teams in total, all at the professional level. There are then 6 recognized levels below that with hundreds more amateur teams involved
Based only on talent and quality of players I'd place the MLS under the championship but i think some league 1 teams are better than most MLS teams. As for the USL I didn't even know it was a thing. What the U.S could do is create a 2 or more lower tier leagues like how we in England have the national league north and south. So what the U.S could do is have relegation of teams be a thing so the pyramid would be MLS at the top, USL under that and then the 2 national leagues call them east and west.
Zlatan left 5 years ago. MLS has changed a lot in that time. The salary cap has more than doubled. MLS owners (except Miami) are deathly afraid of "retirement league" players because most didn't pan out. They are now a development league--similar to the Eredivisie. Besides the USA, the countries that MLS gets the most talent from are Argentina, Colombia, and Brazil (in that order). They are looking to develop the likes of Miguel Almiron, Alphonso Davies, Dorde Petrovic, Weston McKinnie, etc. The implementation of the young DP and U22 initiatives a few years ago spurred this change. Thiago Almada, Federic Redondo, Alan Velasco, Gabriel Pec, Omar Campos, Diego Gomez, Andres Gomez, Julian Fernandez, Noah Eile, Jovan Mijatovic, and David Martinez are some of the young players that MLS has brought in--along with young Americans they are developing from improved academy systems.
The distance between the Southernmost football club in England and the Northernmost football club in England is about 600 miles, which is less than the distance between Houston and El Paso, in Texas. How does a football club on League One or League two level finances afford the travel costs in America? There's a reason minor league baseball teams are regional. There's a reason college athletic teams (Until recently when the finances grew massively) were built around regional conferences like the ACC, the Big 10, or the SEC. There are massive obstacles to a relegation system in America that proponents of it simply aren't acknowledging. I think the key to growing American football is to tap into and invest in our incredible college, high school, and youth sports systems, which America has advantages in over the rest of the world.
@@CoreyMcKinneyFC Absolutely. I really think the obstacles in establishing a relegation system in America are not nearly discussed enough, and a fascinating topic.
If they can introduce promotion/relegation by 2026, then with the World Cup, a great quality streaming service that is affordable and the influx of players being brought over after this Messi wave, football will become the second biggest sport in the US. Baseball and basketball have reached their peak over there, football has room to grow
The US teams would not be able to cope with the 46 game seasons (below the PL) and playing through English winter tbh. Neither would most of the European teams either When an English team wins the Champions League, it is more impressive considering everyone else gets a winter break and we don't
I would say MLS is about bottom half of the championship, leicester, leeds Southampton teams like that are better than any MLS team, but some MLS players are way to good for league 1 soo being about bottom half of the championship seems fair
there is an league ranking and MLS is on #16 between denmark on 15 and ireland on 17 and i think thats a good place to be for them when you compare them every worst team of bundesliga of premier league is better then the absolute best team on MLS which is phiadelphia
Overall, European top leaugues teams are better than those in America. Premium League has more width on the quality, but in the end the Champions League sets the final order every year and it's been shared mostly between England, Spain, Germany and Italy. Most of those championships has gone to Real Madrid (14) and the second is AC Milan (7). Most winning country is again Spain (19) and the second is England (15). I became to know the MLS since Pelé started there. I really hope that with Messi, Busquets, Perez and others raise the respect and value to the MLS. That will help the American players and the National team to improve it's performance at international stages. Maybe American players should go to Europe at their early career...
Teams from the championship dont do to well in the premier league, Luton , Sheff utd and Burnley are just wipping teams for most establised premier league teams that are in the top ten.
MLS is mostly a League One level league. Even the strongest clubs are not consistent enough per season to stay bottom ELF Championship level. USL Championship is mid ELF League One mixed with a much of clubs that would fit in League Two. One thing you forgot to list is coaching and the yearly effectiveness of club tactics. MLS is a league that look like it’s growing when it’s against themselves and home field advantage, however, MLS have a long horrible track record of losing over the road and only won CONCACAF once in 20 years. MLS clubs have parity because it’s forced. None of our teams will revive in a real league where they function independently. That’s the problem. I would have more faith if MLS was function in a way that allow competitive play and did not reward the worse teams to keep parity.
this is an old video, seria a (italian League) is definitely higher up, if you look at coefficients the premier league isnt even in the top 3, so essentially the prem is the best league in the world for depth but the teams at the very top dont differ to the other top teams in europe
I dont know what coefficient youre looking at but the Premier League is still top of Uefas ranking, Serie A moved up to second with La Liga third and Bundesliga fourth.
@@nickchivers9029 league coefficients not country ones, serie a and bundesliga get the 5th place ucl spots along with la liga of course, whilst the prem only gets to have 4 because of their poor european performance, anyways all i was trying to get across is that although the prem has the most money and depth, the top teams man city arsenal etc are generally pretty even in strength to their european counterparts ie bayern munich real madrid etc
But quality difference between prem and efl champ is night and day, not even close. Look at Burnley they had one of the best seasons ever in championship history last year and look how are they doing in the Prem. Premier league is completely different level, when you say just below prem it might seem like just one level below but it's like 100 below and it's just that nothing is between these levels.
Yeah and the Premier League TV money and parachute payments has meant that gap keeps getting bigger. Makes it even more impressive now when teams like Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth come up though the leagues and stabilise themselves in the Premier League.
i think USL is the future of american soccer because they aproach it from grassroots perception and that gives in my opinion a better base and scoutingbase instead of big cpompany fraznchises end killing all other leagues
This is an interesting perspective indeed! The American Sports model has always been money money money. It’ll be interesting to see if this league can break the mold in the US
Am i the only one who thinks that the MLS has terrible defenders, or defensive concepts? Sign better players (like apple tv wants) - ok, but mostly midfielders / attackers, no really good defenders. Comparisons to other leagues don´t make sense, since there is no competition (like UCL, UEL and so on) to do so. Messi, Suarez and co are still good players, but can not compete in europe´s top clubs anymore. So the MLS is till a retirement league for me. I am sure that MLS teams would perform best mediocre even in leagues like in austria, czech, serbia, turkey and so on.Forgive me my bad english.
@@axelll814 Well, as a former semi-pro player with 18 years of experience (+11 years as a junior player) and currently holding the UEFA A license And as a coach of a first tier junior team (16 to 18 years players) i think i have a liiiitle bit of an eye for it.
No disrespect, but Messi is playing like he was in pre-season friendly games on Europe. He was great in Barcelona. In the national team he was very criticized at first for not performing and he was never the same player in PSG as in Barça. He is a fantastic player, one of the greatest, but he was almost always in his confort zone, with many world class players around him. Other great players were consistently great in multiple clubes in multiple countries.
The MLS is gradually improving. Since the Apple TV deal started MLS Season Pass, Apple has been pressuring the MLS to sign better players. It is my belief that Apple will greatly help draw higher levels of talent than what has been previously showcased in the MLS.
I think you are absolutely right
Apple won’t be a big draw unless you are nearing the latter stages of your career. What brings talent is the honours you can win MLS honours are not very prestigious.
It won't the big Stars go for 100 Mio a season to Saudi after they won everything in Europe, with that money not even Apple can compete and on merrrit the US can also not compete.
@@callumlucas4444 Apple is eyeballing covering the EPL and some other leagues in the future.
MLS is in regards to money on par with 2.Bundesliga, the sallaries in the Championship are steep, even compared to the 1.Bundesliga. The difference between PL and Bundesliga is that the Bundesliga does not allow to sell a majority of a club to investors, 49.9% is allowed, PL clubs are owned by billionaires, Bundesliga-Teams are still owned by the Clubs.
The second category is completely meaningless. The highest paid player is going to make a lot but that's because it's always an old top EU player and they kind of have to offer him a high salary to get him to come. It says absolutely nothing about the actual quality of the league.
Are you telling me Saudi Pro League is not a strong league?
@@tim7140 The Saudi Pro League is not strong in comparison to the top EU leagues but I would say that it is stronger than MLS. There are players in the Saudi league that are below the age of 30 and come from top EU clubs.
@@itotallycare Fair but aside from the best clubs and mby the top players from the ones below, you can see that the baselevel Talent becomes very liacking like worse than an average MLS player.
@@itotallycare But yeah I agree that top Saudi Teams would win MLS.
The MLS level is about League One level or third tier relative to the big leagues.
The problem in the US ,as I see it, is that it doesn't have the grass roots of young kids playing football, unlike in Europe where there is a very broad base of the pyramid.
Even small towns, and villages, have teams, in Britain, for example, and kids learn to kick a ball from a very young age, with their parents.
The problem, from my view, is that it is pay-to-play in the US youth leagues. It's going to be a real uphill battle as long as prospective players have to invest in the game rather than the leagues investing in them.
Keep in mind that MLS is a relatively new league and the goal of MLS (as the organization) is not to be the a top league globally but to be as lucrative as possible 🤑
The very strict roster rules and salary cap limit the level of the league but also help to sustain it and every year the quality gets a little bit better
Global football rankings power index that he uses used to be a great tool. It hasn’t been updated in 2-3 years. I guess it’s owners abandoned it or something. It doesn’t really carry much weight anymore. The opta power rankings are the credible option now and they are compiled by opta, the company that compiles all the match statistics for networks like ESPN and BBC.
The fan attendance is a difficult one for England, because of the promotion/relegation. Like, this season - we have a lot of big teams with big stadiums and lots of fans, Leeds, Sunderland, Leicester, Southampton - all in the Championship. Then we have teams with small stadiums and smaller fanbases, like Bournemouth, Luton, Brentford in the Prem. So that will always lower the average attendance, even though basically every match is at pretty much 100% capacity. People get into the Prem just depedant on the ability of their players. Whereas, to get accepted into the MLS you would have to prove that you're capable of filling a big stadium with fans.
That said, from what I've seen of the MLS. And when I've seen MLS players come over to England - I'd pretty much agree with this guy's idea of where they would be.
As an English fan of football I enjoy watching MLS. My biggest bug bear with MLS, this will surprise you, is Lionel Messi at Inter Miami. While it is a great move commercially, and it may encourage youngsters to strive to compete at a higher level, I think it kills competition. When the addition of Messi can result in an immediate success for a new team it must be disappointing for the general fan of MLS that one player can turn a team into an immediate success. You can only hope that the positives will be an absolute benefit in the long run.
As I understand it the MLS have only just started really investing in academies (youth team football schools). This will bring the biggest benefit to MLS. Good youth coaching is the way to improve quality. However, from what I hear (I don't know if this is correct), academy players have to pay to be coached. That's a no no. The best players nearly always come from poor backgrounds ( it makes them motivated to work hard to be the best), and would be unable to pay their way through an academy.
In the UK kids, as young as 8 or 9 years old, are playing in schools leagues or Sunday leagues (amateur football leagues - teams are divided into age groups, under 10s, under 12s, under 15s, under 18s). Clubs have open trials and kids that may be gifted can try out for professional club academies. Don't forget it's 175 years of soccer history that have built this game in the UK. We have developed these leagues over a very long time. The professional clubs do not charge for coaching, hoping to reap the benefit 8 or 10 years down the line with homegrown players. Additional to this, many English clubs recruit good foreign youth players into their academies.
The MLS is a young organisation, the US is huge with a massive population. I don't know if they could cope with open trials ( the number of hopefuls would, I imagine, be prodigious, overwhelming the clubs abilities to grade them). The way to go would be to have coaches of youth and schools teams recommend their best players to go for try outs.
Sorry about this long comment. I get carried away when talking football. Like most football fans I have an opinion. The point I am failing to make is that I have seen MLS improve year on year. It is quite an open league, there are always a few teams vying for the top spot. This is healthy for football. A relegation system would be better, but that can come later. The only problem is importing a player like Messi who can restrict the level of competition. He can turn a team into a dominant force. Thereby relegating ( that word again but in a different context) other clubs to chasing the second spot.
Personally I'd say the standard of MLS is somewhere around the low-end Championship level currently (it is improving all the time, mind) you can't compare it to the big leagues in Europe (Premier League, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A) I'd go as far to say MLS is a better overall league than Scotland (apart from Rangers and Celtic, the SPL is a hard league to watch sometimes)
considering Championship is #11 and MLS is #16 i think thats even a nice statement
@DaxRaider I watch both and they are similar, I don't buy too much into the rankings, I just go by what I see, I think MLS is closer to a top 10 league than a lot of them say, ive got a few of my mates watching it, it's really a pretty good league, yes there are improvements they could make (like raising the salary cap) but all in due time, its miles ahead of where it once was
also for fan attendance , unlike alot of the us stadiums , there are alot of smaller stadiums in england and europe
OK, here's the bigger question: Which leagues, top to bottom, have more parity/disparity? La Liga is usually Real and Barca and a lot of tomato cans. EPL is the Champions League places and a lot of tomato cans. Not saying that parity is what's MOST important, but that was the No Fun League's business model from the 1930's onward-- Bert Bell didn't want one team going 12 and 0 and another 0 and 12, and so competitive balance was the watchword. It almost doesn't matter if the top MLS teams stack up against an EPL, La Liga, Serie A or whatever bottom team. It's how MANY MLS teams on their best day would defeat any team in a Euro top flight on that other team's worst day, i.e., how far down the ladder before the outcome comes practically a certainty?
This video is either outdated or they are looking at attendance for the couple of years after COVID. MLS averaged around 22,000/game in the two years prior to COVID and again last year, and they are averaging almost 25,000/game this year (Messi effect).
Pretty on point I reckon
promotion/relegation need to come with open the cap limit, that's the key, after that will rain sponsors, better players, better quiality and competition. and make 2 league players to improve and play better to reach firs tleague, and teams in first league to spend more and play better to stay up. Win - win for everybody
Get Messi on the show, Corey!
Yo I wish 🤣
So when you were first getting into football with your mate and yous both chose a team you picked Newcastle United. But I’ve not heard you talk about them since so wondering if they are still your team ?
Damn, forest Green has had some misfortune since the vid was made. Im an Arsenal fan & I remember watching Man City Vs Gillingham in the play off final in 2000. How that game changed their fortunes.
I was expecting him to rank MLS against the top leagues in Europe. Aside from a local interest in who gets promoted to the Premier League and who drops to the Championship, nobody really cares. Some German who watches Liverpool isn't going to care that Leicester City is getting promoted and that Sheffield United is going down.
And obviously going further down it gets more and more localised.
If youre gonna compare MLS to the top leagues in Europe it would be a much shorter video 😂
Appreciate the original content Corey, keep it pushing!
Thank you!
MLS is about league 2 but with much higher salaries imo I have 2 friends who couldn’t even play professionally in this country but got MLS contracts as soon as they left the academy this video is pretty bias tbf Arsenal played the MLS all stars and made them look like farmers
I think league 1/bottom championship teams. Championship is really underrated, u will notice alot of players that do well there, score about the same goals in prem and other big leagues (toney gyokores watkins etc), but league 2 is pushing it
@@tosexe2535 Yeah to say MLS is League 2 standard is laughable, has probably never seen a L2 game to compare it to.
I think it's a fair assessment to say MLS is somewhere around mid to lower Championship. With a couple of teams that might push for the playoffs
@@calvinflight1068 I've watched MLS and its diabolically bad
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 You obviously haven't watched much football below the Premier League, probably on the TV at that.
You clearly have no actual idea what you're talking about, just speaking out your ass. MLS clubs play 2nd division European sides all the time in their preseasons. England, Spain, Germany, etc. They lose some, but also win some. Sure, it's a friendly, but the MLS players are in early pre-season form while the European sides are all usually mid-season and match-fit.
And keep in mind that this is compared to one other league pyramid. I'd rank at least Germany's Bundesliga, France's Ligue Un, Italy's Serie A, and Spain's La Liga above the MLS. Other countrie's top leagues that might be in the EFL Championship/MLS vicinity would include Portugal's, The Netherlands', Belgium's, and Türkiye's. Maybe even a couple more.
Facts! But I would have put the Portugal and Netherland leagues above MLS.
MLS is a much better league than most are willing to admit. it has a core of dedicated fans that love it
Mls has a lot of foreign players. English championship, league 1 and league 2 probably dont have many
MLS and Saudi league are one of the fastest growing league in the world.
People are waiting for the 2026 world cup to see how much MLS gets boosted after this.
Fun facts. England has 4 leagues with 92 teams in total, all at the professional level. There are then 6 recognized levels below that with hundreds more amateur teams involved
We have 12 levels my dude
Based only on talent and quality of players I'd place the MLS under the championship but i think some league 1 teams are better than most MLS teams. As for the USL I didn't even know it was a thing.
What the U.S could do is create a 2 or more lower tier leagues like how we in England have the national league north and south. So what the U.S could do is have relegation of teams be a thing so the pyramid would be MLS at the top, USL under that and then the 2 national leagues call them east and west.
There are some videos of Zlatan comparing MLS or at least some players in MLS to Europe. Might not be the best person for the comparison though =P
Zlatan left 5 years ago. MLS has changed a lot in that time. The salary cap has more than doubled. MLS owners (except Miami) are deathly afraid of "retirement league" players because most didn't pan out. They are now a development league--similar to the Eredivisie. Besides the USA, the countries that MLS gets the most talent from are Argentina, Colombia, and Brazil (in that order). They are looking to develop the likes of Miguel Almiron, Alphonso Davies, Dorde Petrovic, Weston McKinnie, etc. The implementation of the young DP and U22 initiatives a few years ago spurred this change. Thiago Almada, Federic Redondo, Alan Velasco, Gabriel Pec, Omar Campos, Diego Gomez, Andres Gomez, Julian Fernandez, Noah Eile, Jovan Mijatovic, and David Martinez are some of the young players that MLS has brought in--along with young Americans they are developing from improved academy systems.
Zlatan, the same guy who went on to score a bunch in Serie A afterward when he was even older than he was in MLS?
@@nickdoe7770 That's the guy
The distance between the Southernmost football club in England and the Northernmost football club in England is about 600 miles, which is less than the distance between Houston and El Paso, in Texas. How does a football club on League One or League two level finances afford the travel costs in America? There's a reason minor league baseball teams are regional. There's a reason college athletic teams (Until recently when the finances grew massively) were built around regional conferences like the ACC, the Big 10, or the SEC.
There are massive obstacles to a relegation system in America that proponents of it simply aren't acknowledging. I think the key to growing American football is to tap into and invest in our incredible college, high school, and youth sports systems, which America has advantages in over the rest of the world.
Thank you! You just put into words what I’ve struggled to capture when speaking to people about regulation. May I use this in a video?
@@CoreyMcKinneyFC Absolutely. I really think the obstacles in establishing a relegation system in America are not nearly discussed enough, and a fascinating topic.
The MLS is really growing over there. Everything is pointing up. Dont worry about it
If they can introduce promotion/relegation by 2026, then with the World Cup, a great quality streaming service that is affordable and the influx of players being brought over after this Messi wave, football will become the second biggest sport in the US. Baseball and basketball have reached their peak over there, football has room to grow
In my opinion that is not gonna happen that fast 🤷♂️ it’s atleast taking 10 years
The US teams would not be able to cope with the 46 game seasons (below the PL) and playing through English winter tbh. Neither would most of the European teams either
When an English team wins the Champions League, it is more impressive considering everyone else gets a winter break and we don't
I would say MLS is about bottom half of the championship, leicester, leeds Southampton teams like that are better than any MLS team, but some MLS players are way to good for league 1 soo being about bottom half of the championship seems fair
there is an league ranking and MLS is on #16 between denmark on 15 and ireland on 17 and i think thats a good place to be for them
when you compare them every worst team of bundesliga of premier league is better then the absolute best team on MLS which is phiadelphia
Overall, European top leaugues teams are better than those in America. Premium League has more width on the quality, but in the end the Champions League sets the final order every year and it's been shared mostly between England, Spain, Germany and Italy. Most of those championships has gone to Real Madrid (14) and the second is AC Milan (7). Most winning country is again Spain (19) and the second is England (15). I became to know the MLS since Pelé started there. I really hope that with Messi, Busquets, Perez and others raise the respect and value to the MLS. That will help the American players and the National team to improve it's performance at international stages. Maybe American players should go to Europe at their early career...
Lol “that’s not bad” … USL 40k average bahahaha that’s nothing. They need more man.
the second category has changed a lot because of Messi
Teams from the championship dont do to well in the premier league, Luton , Sheff utd and Burnley are just wipping teams for most establised premier league teams that are in the top ten.
MLS is mostly a League One level league. Even the strongest clubs are not consistent enough per season to stay bottom ELF Championship level. USL Championship is mid ELF League One mixed with a much of clubs that would fit in League Two.
One thing you forgot to list is coaching and the yearly effectiveness of club tactics. MLS is a league that look like it’s growing when it’s against themselves and home field advantage, however, MLS have a long horrible track record of losing over the road and only won CONCACAF once in 20 years. MLS clubs have parity because it’s forced. None of our teams will revive in a real league where they function independently. That’s the problem. I would have more faith if MLS was function in a way that allow competitive play and did not reward the worse teams to keep parity.
I'm pretty sure inter miami would beat Sheffield united, in a home and away,
this is an old video, seria a (italian League) is definitely higher up, if you look at coefficients the premier league isnt even in the top 3, so essentially the prem is the best league in the world for depth but the teams at the very top dont differ to the other top teams in europe
I dont know what coefficient youre looking at but the Premier League is still top of Uefas ranking, Serie A moved up to second with La Liga third and Bundesliga fourth.
@@nickchivers9029he might be referring to the bundesliga and serie a getting a 5th ucl spot a couple days ago
@@nickchivers9029 league coefficients not country ones, serie a and bundesliga get the 5th place ucl spots along with la liga of course, whilst the prem only gets to have 4 because of their poor european performance, anyways all i was trying to get across is that although the prem has the most money and depth, the top teams man city arsenal etc are generally pretty even in strength to their european counterparts ie bayern munich real madrid etc
But quality difference between prem and efl champ is night and day, not even close. Look at Burnley they had one of the best seasons ever in championship history last year and look how are they doing in the Prem. Premier league is completely different level, when you say just below prem it might seem like just one level below but it's like 100 below and it's just that nothing is between these levels.
Yeah and the Premier League TV money and parachute payments has meant that gap keeps getting bigger.
Makes it even more impressive now when teams like Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth come up though the leagues and stabilise themselves in the Premier League.
@@calvinflight1068 exactly 🔥, some even say that Brighton and Brentford are one of the most well run clubs in the world because of this.
Im pretty sure miami would do better than Sheffield united, if they were in the epl,
No chance it's a championship lvl
i think USL is the future of american soccer because they aproach it from grassroots perception and that gives in my opinion a better base and scoutingbase
instead of big cpompany fraznchises end killing all other leagues
This is an interesting perspective indeed! The American Sports model has always been money money money. It’ll be interesting to see if this league can break the mold in the US
@@CoreyMcKinneyFC i hope they do but it will be a very long proces to achieve it
Am i the only one who thinks that the MLS has terrible defenders, or defensive concepts? Sign better players (like apple tv wants) - ok, but mostly midfielders / attackers, no really good defenders. Comparisons to other leagues don´t make sense, since there is no competition (like UCL, UEL and so on) to do so. Messi, Suarez and co are still good players, but can not compete in europe´s top clubs anymore. So the MLS is till a retirement league for me. I am sure that MLS teams would perform best mediocre even in leagues like in austria, czech, serbia, turkey and so on.Forgive me my bad english.
Facts!!!
more scored goals = more highlights = more hype = more people watch apple tv. it may destroy the game but apple makes a lot of money on the way
@@VanezBane And that´s the point i don´t like: it destroys the game
@@axelll814 Well, as a former semi-pro player with 18 years of experience (+11 years as a junior player) and currently holding the UEFA A license And as a coach of a first tier junior team (16 to 18 years players) i think i have a liiiitle bit of an eye for it.
@@bladablitz I said you’re speaking facts loool. I am totally agree with you.
No disrespect, but Messi is playing like he was in pre-season friendly games on Europe. He was great in Barcelona. In the national team he was very criticized at first for not performing and he was never the same player in PSG as in Barça. He is a fantastic player, one of the greatest, but he was almost always in his confort zone, with many world class players around him. Other great players were consistently great in multiple clubes in multiple countries.
Age????