This is highly slept on, I’m barely farmed up and I can get 3-4 different dots that deal 200 damage each, plus you’re a pseudo tank with heals I literally hit them with all my dots and watch them run away while dying
I don't plan on playing this game but when looking at all the builds I knew if I did play this was going to be the playstyle I'd like and this video confirmed all my ideas of what it could do! Hope you see a lot of success on launch!
Thanks for the guide still new to the game so been learning as i play and watching videos as i go. Very useful info to set me on track to what i wanna aim for.
I will definitely be coming out with more guide content soon. I plan on streaming during release so if you have any questions feel free to come and ask if i'm streaming
I thought I was having trouble with Ruth’s rotation but I’m pretty sure your gs is way higher, mine is at 2500 and your weapons are more than likely fully traited, my leqs weapons are about 60/70% traited and my wand mastery is is only and dag is 10, making the transition from spellblade… thank you for the video, definitely some spicy numbers in there
@@omi2292 i can’t remember exactly where my gear was in this video but it was around 3k (give or take 150) currently on global im at around 3k sometimes below 3k depending on my loadout
this is so so so good! is this still viable to this day? Best guide i have found, with gear examples on questlog aswell! hope this is still up to date.
An other rare video about wand dagger ! It gonna be my main class, i really need few video because on internet i see some many different build im so lost ! I m looking to deal dmg but most of wand dagger are support
Hey, nice video man! I started as a Paladin (GS/Wand) on the fresh EU servers. I have a few questions and would really appreciate if you could awnser them: 1. Why do you take extended curse duration? How does it effect the Curse Bomb damage? 2. How is the healer job late game as a non Bow + Wand combo? I see you are playing on korean servers I guess as you are higher than 50. So how do people treat other wand combos when it comes to the healing job? I like my combo alot as I'm a super beefy healer with tons of CC and would really like to know how to increase my curse bomb damage. Cheers mate!
i have 2 questions. Do this build on daggers isn;t too tanky? does a dps equpment wouldnt be better? (asking on dungeon and open world) Another one, could u show mastery on dagger? or just tell which tree go 1,2,3? LAST THING I FORGOT great video man. thats the guide i needed the most THX SO MUCH.
Subscribed - this is awesome! It's great to see a proper breakdown of the damage behind the spec. Are you able to also operative as a healer, or does this require completely different gear to pull off? I would like the option to change roles based on need, between sneaky DPS + Healer, but not sure if this is viable
I'm probably if not the first, one of the founders of wand bomber. I used to bomb from week 2 of Kazar. I can confirm this build is 100% legit and all the information is correct. Thank you very much for putting this video up and sharing the info with the community. Great job!
Thank you for the great video and the list of all your load outs for pve/pvp. I have a question, can the small scale builds A/B work if I tweak them a little to be the main healer for my small guild in pvp?
Depends on preference mostly, and server. Me personally If I had to choose ONE and never swap it would be melee/ranged eva. That doesn't mean that its objectively best though
Damn, now I'm convinced to do wand/dagger. May I ask what are the skills I should focus on first? also whats the usual weapon we use when we do farming?
thoughts on running anything crit related? deciding between trying to get over 1k hit for large scale or running harvester, I feel like with so many running magic/ranged eva im cooked if I miss, but I see alot of builds running 30 dex and harvester for curses
Hey, thank you for the video, I'm having lot of fun doing this playstyle actually What kind of dagger masteries do you use ? You show the wand one with the duration but not the dagger. Can you tell me. Pls ? :) good work bro wp
@@sk_desynchro7470 Thanks for the comment and glad your having fun with it. For my dagger masteries I go halfway in the top row for evasion then all the way down the middle for hit rate, silence chance and cdr
@@tre632 thank you so much for your work !! I would love to see your full build on a website but your video is actually really cool !! Have fun in game !
@@sk_desynchro7470 Here's the links to my builds AGS version (T2 loadouts are broken): questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/FerociousWraithOfRevival NCS version (with T2s/Runes/Resonance): questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ExplosiveProphetOfTheSoul
@@Kinaecham I use my daggers in my main hand because in this game the masteries for your weapons are only in effect when you have that weapon out. Since the daggers have a +105 all evasion mastery I like to benefit from that as much as possible. The wand masteries will still apply to your wand abilities because your character pulls out the wand for a second when you cast a wand ability.
@@tre632 What does main hand mean? Having it in the first weapon slot so it has a 1 beside it or physically having the weapon out and that 1/2 tag on the weapon doesn't matter at all? Also if you have daggers out, wouldn't that mean you can't auto attack at all unless in melee? Just confused on how I get value from dagger mastery at all if I'm constantly at mid to long range. Appreciate any info!
@@Tekno210 Main hand as in physically having the weapon out. the 1/2 tag doesn't matter. Yes that means you won't be able to auto attack unless you're at melee range but we are a burst class we don't usually need to auto attack. sometimes you can weapon swap to the wand to auto attack if its safe to but generally you want to have your daggers out. The reason is that the daggers have a mastery that gives you +105 All evasion while you have them out and I stack evasion on my builds so that extra 105 really helps
out of curiosity could you not get a bigger burst window by adding poison in with curses? since curse explosion also eats poison and burning? like if you poison then do a magic circle you poison as well as stack ToD on all creatures in it. i know poison window is small so maybe find a way to add it mid combo to let stack but not fall off? great video love this style and seeing another wand/dagger user! o
@@NordenFox yea you would get more dmg if you used poison, however I don’t run poison in my build (i know its on my skillbar in the video but thats just cause I was testing something before recording). I don’t run poisons because they drastically increase your chances of proccing the longbow barrier passive which will ruin your burst on any target with a longbow and since 70+% of backline targets have a longbow its just not worth running poisons.
@tre632 ok hmm I haven't messed too much with long bow to know! Good info to have looks like I may be dropping poisons then and simplify the rotation (barely). Thanks for the feedback!
thanks a lot for this im closing in on 3k gs and I kind of need to decide on a build but I have a few questions would be ok for a few discord chats ? ty
Yea, I have a community discord: discord.gg/PT8M72XnEu I've been answering a bunch of questions there, you can ask me any questions there. You might even find the answers to your question there already
Helllo, which build from the link in description would be best as a hybrid build for PVP and PVE. I am currently 37 and want to build towards PVP, but want to perform well in PVE questing and dungeons. My playstyle is to deal high dmg (aoe and 1v1 if possible) and heal if needed. I think 1v1/smallscale A or B would be the option? I don't know.
@@Hiena008 Yea smallscale A fits best into what you’re asking for. However you will see that most builds have a lot of overlapping skills and the game gives you a lot of skill upgrade books, after about a week you should be able to have pretty much all the skills across all the builds up to purple. Make sure you take the skill parchment paper from the contracts once you hit lvl 50
Torn between Wand/Dagger or Wand/Bow. I like the off meta of Wand/Dagger and its ability to lean into DPS or Support via CC/Heals compared to wand/bow where is all CC/Heals. So I’m leaning more towards Wand/Dagger just don’t wanna regret and end up having to start over. I saw in another comment you stated u queue healer in PvE, how does that generally work for you and what changes do you make
@@blackxsheep29 Hey sorry for the late response, to be honest wand/longbow does a lot of damage too so I think you should just choose the one you enjoy more. As for healing pve with wand dagger I take all the support skills and utilize more low cooldown dagger skills to add extra consistent damage. I uploaded a full dungeon run as healer on my channel now too so you can see how that looks
@@17Rasti I plan on making a full in depth pve guide soon but for now there is a video on my channel of me doing a full dungeon run as healer (the audio in the beginning is bad but it gets better quickly). Here are my current pve skill builds as well: imgur.com/a/md3FpTk
Hi, may you help me to clear some point? Why don't you use Inject vernom as poison does stack with curse explosion? And, What the point of using Cleaving moonlight? for damage dealing only? the skill say that "The number of attacks increases up to 4 times upon the Off-Hand Weapon activation". does it mean the 4 time attacks only active when a wand skill is used right after or dagger must be used as off hand weapon?
have you tried messing around with more melee spec instead of wand? im more into melee but still want the benefits from wand its so hard to min max a good rotation for it thou
@@Rambow808 xbow is the hardest matchup for this build because of mortal mark. It’s still definitely winnable but you have to play extremely well. In an equal skill level fight though xbow wins 9/10 times
@@tre632 thanks man. Just worried they gonna nerf xbow and this wand dagger looks so cool. I don’t care for metas I wanna play what looks nice to me. Thanks again I subbed
so for your large scale do you have different things set up. some of the skills in your 1v1 dps stuff take the adaptation to change the skill to something else. do you revert to the normal ones for large scale combat?
@@tre632 burn stacks can in fact be spread. I m hard deciding on trying something similar like this but staff wand. Technically it should do even more aoe dmg but i would need to see to to survive.
Is there a spesific reason for one of your builds going for 2 pieces of "Field General" or is it just for stats? (does the set bonus do anything for our curse bomb?)
for leveling I just used the curses and cleaving moonlight for damage, swift healing was enough to keep me alive through the leveling process. Focus on leveling up all you curses and cleaving moonlight
@@BlackWings262 make sure you use dagger Q block to regen mana whenever you can. Also utilize the mana passives in wand as well as the mana regen passive in dagger
@@ChrisByrdGames daggers are in my mainhand for the evasion mastery bonus. I consider the build to be wand/dagger because 95% of my damage and offense comes from wand, the daggers provide me utility and defensive stats
@@tre632 ah okay, so the evasion mastery bonus only works with dagger in main hand? I assumed both the weapon bonuses applied their mastery bonuses at the same time
When it comes to gearing the build that you've made has very low hit. How do you manage to deal with people who build magic evasion or use daggers, I very often face opponents who will be hard to hit due to their evasion but then if I spec in to more hit i'll lose the melee evasion and be below the evasion needed to avoid greatsword burst. What are we building melee evasion for, is it to counter gs dagger? like what's the reason for the melee evasion stack and only 600-700 hit
@@Leandril well its tough to get past 1k hit with wand anyway, but most of my builds are 800+ hit not counting food buff. Melee eva is cause they’re just gonna run you down if you don’t have it, nothing you can really do to stop it whereas you can play around the dmg from ranged/magic.
@@tre632 I see, also does swirling essence 2 piece set bonus not work for our curses? Just asking cause wouldn't that 7.5s weaken duration add alot of damage ( if it works )
You could use daggers as your main damage but then you're strictly limited to single target and you need to use thunderclouds combos which will proc tons of barriers on longbow users. In 1v1/smallscale it could be okay but you have to pay attention to who you're hitting and make sure that you don't dive a longbow user
@@kingd1486 honestly I have not looked at any maxroll builds. If you want you can link the one you’re curious about and I can take a look and give you my opinion on it
@@JonModafokin1 I’m not planning on using any of the arena bracelets. I’ll have to do some testing but on paper I’m not liking any of them over the evasion bracelets
Do you think the armor setup you listed would be viable for PvE and leveling? I've heard that pvp setups translate well to pve but not necessarily vice-versa. I'm pretty torn between wand/dagger, SnS/GS, SnS/Wand, and GS/Dagger
I've had no issues doing any content whether it be PvP or PvE with these gear setups. Early on you will have to be mindful of your mana in dimensional dungeons but other than that the PvE is very good. All the options you listed are very good weapon sets and can definitely be played in any level of PvP, however GS/Dagger is a bit weak in dimensional dungeons but the devs have been making efforts to bring its bossing strength up. I would say if those are your choices I wouldn't worry about how strong they are because they're all very very viable, just pick the one that fits you best stylistically
@tre632 I appreciate it! I think I like the hybrid utility of the wand/ dagger. How do you manage the mana issues you mentioned? I've heard that wand/dagger Is rough because the cooldowns are long and hard to manage. Do you think that's the case?
@@jimmyc1510 For general PvE assassins step (dagger passive) and full of corruption (wand passive) solve all your mana worries, but for bossing when you don't have easy access to those passive you would have to be picky with when you use your healing skills as those are the ones that eat the most mana. The Vampiric Contract passive in wand allows you to keep constant passive heals on the tank as long as you have them targeted and have a curse on the boss, so you get to save a lot of mana that way (assuming you're healing the dungeon). If you're just DPS in the dungeons then your mana is not a problem because you can use more of your dagger dps skills which don't cost nearly as much. As for the cooldowns I build into wisdom and cooldown reduction so my cooldowns are actually pretty short, especially if you manage your defensive skills properly you have very high uptime.
@@jimmyc1510 It's a different playstyle than most other weapon sets. I would say it's difficult because you have to be very particular with your cooldowns and combos since our damage relies on stacking debuffs properly. We don't have that instant pressure button like other DPS do (eg. judement lightning from staff or deathblow / guillotine blade from GS). We have to play very differently against everything which takes some getting used to but once you get the hang of it and start mastering your cooldowns wand/dagger is very strong
Strongly disagree with that. Melee has way too much CC to not build evasion against in my opinion. People only say its not worth because you need a lot of evasion to counter how much hit melees can build but there's ways to build enough
This video was before NA launch on korean servers where my perception was 60, wisdom was 50 and strength was 30 as well as dex being 30. Even still you should definitely be doing more than 7k max with a proper combo as long as you have all the curse duration effects (wraiths beckon passive from wand, curse time up wand mastery, touch of despair skill specialization)
I have the same spells and skill specs as u on questlog for small and large , I do both but have the feeling that dmg is not right even with the good combo
personal preference, I like the option for the huge burst that unlucky clock provides. I just rely more on positioning to make up for not having another defensive skill. You can definitely run more defensives instead though
@@EmperorRaom yea it increases the duration by 5s but curse explosion deals ALL the damage that your curses would’ve done over their entire duration. So adding 5s to both ToD and Decaying touch before exploding makes it do tons more dmg
Sure, I've been getting some clips of me bombing huge groups in largescale pvp on my streams. I'll be putting all the clips together soon for a video and i'll explain how to do proper bombs
@@calmyyy hit chance and weaken chance are important to land sleeps, target selection as well, try to target lomgbow/staff or staff/wand or longbow/wand as those are the most reliable targets to land sleeps on
@@lepanit For pure dps on bosses I would run all the same curses (touch of despair, decaying touch, curse explosion, time for punishment) but I would add the thunderclouds stuff from dagger Cleaving moonlight: double attack + apply thunderclouds Brutal incision: thunderclouds bombing + cooldown reduc if possible Inject venom: thunderclouds + cooldown reduc if possible Fatal stigma: damage boost on targets lost hp
Is it possible deal dungeons as dagger/wand or do you just swap out dagger for the instance? I just ran it at 50 and it felt bad but I dont know if thats just because there wasnt a tank really
think it was just a shit party cleared it and got leq with crit first run lol, any guides you can rec for gear progression im quiet lost (aside from doing contracts and dungeons
Wand/dagger is good for dungeons, congrats on the leq dagger drop. As far as guides for gear progression the link in the description has all the gear I look for going up from green to blue all the way to T1 and T2 purples, you can click on the items and view them in the database to see how to get them
@@JohnSmith-h8u yes you can, here are all my builds i have a dungeon dps build in there 1v1/Smallscale A: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=2237 1v1/Smallscale B: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=18900 Largescale Bomber: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=2239 Dungeon Healer: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=3958 Dungeon DPS: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=33819 AOE mob grinding: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=33813
Very strong in 1v1. Greatswords and crossbows are our tough matchups which is why I typically build heavily into melee and ranged evasion to help our weaknesses.
Honestly do not know what I am doing wrong , I have all right traits , stats , equipment , have not seen anything above 4 k damage and even that is rare and not with this combo.
I build into wisdom and spec into a decent amount of mana regen on my gear. If you follow the gear builds I put in the description then mana shouldn't be a big issue as long as you're using the assassins step dagger passive as well as the full of corruption wand passive.
Make sure you have all the curse duration bonuses I have. Curse duration is what boosts our damage the most outside of flat base-damage. Wraiths beckon wand passive, curse time wand mastery, touch of despair skill specialization
I have a few different builds, one of the loadouts uses cleaving moonlight, the others trade it out for more survivability. I've been running cleaving moonlight a lot so far on global though. You can see me use it a lot in my other videos
Hey Tre, Is there a third weapon you could use in this build that wouldn't require changing up your gear? I don't know exactly how this game works but figured I would only be able to play enough to really get 1 set of gear leveled. Thanks!
@@eyelove4206 inject venom does apply to wand basic attacks but I typically don't use my wand basic attacks unless I really need to or if I know that its safe to
This is highly slept on, I’m barely farmed up and I can get 3-4 different dots that deal 200 damage each, plus you’re a pseudo tank with heals I literally hit them with all my dots and watch them run away while dying
haha, "slept" on
Thanks this is such a nice simple guide for a class that almost no one bothers making videos for!
Oh this is the combo guide I see! Thanks mate more videos on wand dagger bro were waiting!
I don't plan on playing this game but when looking at all the builds I knew if I did play this was going to be the playstyle I'd like and this video confirmed all my ideas of what it could do! Hope you see a lot of success on launch!
Thanks for the love
best wand dagger na
Thanks for the guide still new to the game so been learning as i play and watching videos as i go. Very useful info to set me on track to what i wanna aim for.
@@kipsgamingemporium thanks for watching, good luck! 🙏
Very good, I hope to see more guide videos from you before the release, I intend to play with dagger and wand.
I will definitely be coming out with more guide content soon. I plan on streaming during release so if you have any questions feel free to come and ask if i'm streaming
This has to be the coolest build in the game
@@Miele__ 🤠
great video man! nice simple and descriptive. hope to see more dagger wand videos!
Definitely more to come
exactly what I was looking for!
Glad I could help, more coming during global launch!
Can't wait to play this build !!!
I thought I was having trouble with Ruth’s rotation but I’m pretty sure your gs is way higher, mine is at 2500 and your weapons are more than likely fully traited, my leqs weapons are about 60/70% traited and my wand mastery is is only and dag is 10, making the transition from spellblade… thank you for the video, definitely some spicy numbers in there
@@omi2292 i can’t remember exactly where my gear was in this video but it was around 3k (give or take 150) currently on global im at around 3k sometimes below 3k depending on my loadout
Love it bro keep it up!! Subbed i'm going to use this guide ty!!
Nice video! You earned a sub! . Please keep posting guides of wand dagger.
Music selection? Also lovely guide. I knew this was going to be my jam when I was first learning about it. Happy to have some direction.
Thanks for the comment, glad I can help. The music is my own music actually
I'm waiting for the rest of the videos. Ty ;)
goated vid bro
Love bro !❤
Nice I was really split between wand dagger or staff dagger but this looks way to interesting plus with wand you can flex healer in dungeons
Exactly the versatility is so nice
@@tre632 definitely want to try and put my on spin on it tho
Great Job man, people think i'm strange playing this combo let's sleep them all :D
@@PSYKOTHROPE Yea lol its so underrated, Good luck bro
good vid mate
gonna play this build soon 1 oct global release
this is so so so good! is this still viable to this day? Best guide i have found, with gear examples on questlog aswell! hope this is still up to date.
Nice vid, thank you!
np man, good luck!
An other rare video about wand dagger ! It gonna be my main class, i really need few video because on internet i see some many different build im so lost ! I m looking to deal dmg but most of wand dagger are support
@@YTB_Incognito This is the build for you then, im currently rank #3 in the server for kill rankings. This build has tons of damage
@@tre632 Thank you very much , i have no doubt i save this video, and i follow u to get update
@@tre632 As other people i will wait a pve guide =) THanks
Can you post a video of you doing the "Out of Sight" Secret Dungeon? Want to see your current gear and saw you are neck and neck with a couple others.
Hey, nice video man! I started as a Paladin (GS/Wand) on the fresh EU servers. I have a few questions and would really appreciate if you could awnser them:
1. Why do you take extended curse duration? How does it effect the Curse Bomb damage?
2. How is the healer job late game as a non Bow + Wand combo? I see you are playing on korean servers I guess as you are higher than 50. So how do people treat other wand combos when it comes to the healing job?
I like my combo alot as I'm a super beefy healer with tons of CC and would really like to know how to increase my curse bomb damage. Cheers mate!
thx so much
np fam have fun
i have 2 questions. Do this build on daggers isn;t too tanky? does a dps equpment wouldnt be better? (asking on dungeon and open world) Another one, could u show mastery on dagger? or just tell which tree go 1,2,3? LAST THING I FORGOT great video man. thats the guide i needed the most THX SO MUCH.
@@MalinowyCyc I don’t think it’s too tanky, survivability is king on wand builds. Dagger mastery: top line til evasion, middle line all the way down
Hey man, amazing video. If it's not too much to ask, what stats do you prioritize on gear for this sort of build? Cheers man!
@@shawnporter1940 perception and wisdom. I go for 60 percep, 50 wis and 30 str
@@tre632 Thanks for the reply, just curious, you don't go for any evasion? I always get zerged as a healer 😅😅
@@shawnporter1940 Yea I go for melee and ranged evasions
Subscribed - this is awesome! It's great to see a proper breakdown of the damage behind the spec. Are you able to also operative as a healer, or does this require completely different gear to pull off? I would like the option to change roles based on need, between sneaky DPS + Healer, but not sure if this is viable
Yes you can definitely play this as a main healer
chill beat
@@schararocky6691 thanks bro
I'm probably if not the first, one of the founders of wand bomber. I used to bomb from week 2 of Kazar.
I can confirm this build is 100% legit and all the information is correct.
Thank you very much for putting this video up and sharing the info with the community. Great job!
no one asked
@@aightawyeah4871 let the man take credit in an empty youtube comment if he wants to. god what a fucking waste of atoms your existence is.
Awesome guide and build! But how do I solve the lack of mana? :(
Thank you for the great video and the list of all your load outs for pve/pvp. I have a question, can the small scale builds A/B work if I tweak them a little to be the main healer for my small guild in pvp?
@@gadomoya yea, they can definitely be tweked to be main healer
If building towards a single set of gear, would you take hybrid evasion over pure melee/ranged?
Depends on preference mostly, and server. Me personally If I had to choose ONE and never swap it would be melee/ranged eva. That doesn't mean that its objectively best though
@@tre632 Yeah I was kind of thinking the same thing - thanks
Damn, now I'm convinced to do wand/dagger. May I ask what are the skills I should focus on first? also whats the usual weapon we use when we do farming?
thoughts on running anything crit related? deciding between trying to get over 1k hit for large scale or running harvester, I feel like with so many running magic/ranged eva im cooked if I miss, but I see alot of builds running 30 dex and harvester for curses
Hit all day
Hey, thank you for the video, I'm having lot of fun doing this playstyle actually
What kind of dagger masteries do you use ? You show the wand one with the duration but not the dagger. Can you tell me. Pls ? :) good work bro wp
@@sk_desynchro7470 Thanks for the comment and glad your having fun with it. For my dagger masteries I go halfway in the top row for evasion then all the way down the middle for hit rate, silence chance and cdr
@@tre632 thank you so much for your work !! I would love to see your full build on a website but your video is actually really cool !! Have fun in game !
@@sk_desynchro7470 Here's the links to my builds
AGS version (T2 loadouts are broken): questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/FerociousWraithOfRevival
NCS version (with T2s/Runes/Resonance): questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/ExplosiveProphetOfTheSoul
Hello,
thanks for this great video !
is it better to use your dagger in main weapon and why ?
do you change in PVE / PVP or not?
@@Kinaecham I use my daggers in my main hand because in this game the masteries for your weapons are only in effect when you have that weapon out. Since the daggers have a +105 all evasion mastery I like to benefit from that as much as possible. The wand masteries will still apply to your wand abilities because your character pulls out the wand for a second when you cast a wand ability.
@@tre632 What does main hand mean? Having it in the first weapon slot so it has a 1 beside it or physically having the weapon out and that 1/2 tag on the weapon doesn't matter at all? Also if you have daggers out, wouldn't that mean you can't auto attack at all unless in melee? Just confused on how I get value from dagger mastery at all if I'm constantly at mid to long range. Appreciate any info!
@@Tekno210 Main hand as in physically having the weapon out. the 1/2 tag doesn't matter. Yes that means you won't be able to auto attack unless you're at melee range but we are a burst class we don't usually need to auto attack. sometimes you can weapon swap to the wand to auto attack if its safe to but generally you want to have your daggers out. The reason is that the daggers have a mastery that gives you +105 All evasion while you have them out and I stack evasion on my builds so that extra 105 really helps
out of curiosity could you not get a bigger burst window by adding poison in with curses? since curse explosion also eats poison and burning? like if you poison then do a magic circle you poison as well as stack ToD on all creatures in it. i know poison window is small so maybe find a way to add it mid combo to let stack but not fall off? great video love this style and seeing another wand/dagger user!
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@@NordenFox yea you would get more dmg if you used poison, however I don’t run poison in my build (i know its on my skillbar in the video but thats just cause I was testing something before recording). I don’t run poisons because they drastically increase your chances of proccing the longbow barrier passive which will ruin your burst on any target with a longbow and since 70+% of backline targets have a longbow its just not worth running poisons.
@tre632 ok hmm I haven't messed too much with long bow to know! Good info to have looks like I may be dropping poisons then and simplify the rotation (barely). Thanks for the feedback!
@@NordenFox np np, if you want to see the build in action in large scale fights check out my bombing vid on my channel
@tre632 just watched it earlier on my lunch break today brother! man's blasting!
@@NordenFox yessir! thanks for watching
thanks a lot for this
im closing in on 3k gs and I kind of need to decide on a build but I have a few questions would be ok for a few discord chats ? ty
Yea, I have a community discord: discord.gg/PT8M72XnEu
I've been answering a bunch of questions there, you can ask me any questions there. You might even find the answers to your question there already
is this pvp need a farming loadout any suggestions love the wand abilities ty
Helllo, which build from the link in description would be best as a hybrid build for PVP and PVE. I am currently 37 and want to build towards PVP, but want to perform well in PVE questing and dungeons. My playstyle is to deal high dmg (aoe and 1v1 if possible) and heal if needed. I think 1v1/smallscale A or B would be the option? I don't know.
@@Hiena008 Yea smallscale A fits best into what you’re asking for. However you will see that most builds have a lot of overlapping skills and the game gives you a lot of skill upgrade books, after about a week you should be able to have pretty much all the skills across all the builds up to purple. Make sure you take the skill parchment paper from the contracts once you hit lvl 50
@@tre632 thanks for advise. I will start with this build and then definitely check others !
How do you deal 2.9k damage? The attack order and power are similar, but my damage is half
Torn between Wand/Dagger or Wand/Bow. I like the off meta of Wand/Dagger and its ability to lean into DPS or Support via CC/Heals compared to wand/bow where is all CC/Heals. So I’m leaning more towards Wand/Dagger just don’t wanna regret and end up having to start over. I saw in another comment you stated u queue healer in PvE, how does that generally work for you and what changes do you make
@@blackxsheep29 Hey sorry for the late response, to be honest wand/longbow does a lot of damage too so I think you should just choose the one you enjoy more. As for healing pve with wand dagger I take all the support skills and utilize more low cooldown dagger skills to add extra consistent damage. I uploaded a full dungeon run as healer on my channel now too so you can see how that looks
Hello, I love the build :) Can you make a little update video regarding PvE and bossing with this build or does it stay the same like PvP?
@@17Rasti I plan on making a full in depth pve guide soon but for now there is a video on my channel of me doing a full dungeon run as healer (the audio in the beginning is bad but it gets better quickly). Here are my current pve skill builds as well: imgur.com/a/md3FpTk
Hi, may you help me to clear some point? Why don't you use Inject vernom as poison does stack with curse explosion? And, What the point of using Cleaving moonlight? for damage dealing only? the skill say that "The number of attacks increases up to 4 times upon the Off-Hand Weapon activation". does it mean the 4 time attacks only active when a wand skill is used right after or dagger must be used as off hand weapon?
is there anyway to see skill specializations for any of those builds in the planner?
Could you post a video of yourself doing a PVE? Killing several mobs.
And another question, generally in DG, do you go as a heller or dps?
In dungeons I do both, but mostly I queue as healer. I can make a PvE guide soon too
@@tre632 pve guide would be great
Any update to this with the questlog stuff? I assume some stuff may have changed.
if it will be possible if You can upload some small scale fights? and looking forward for You next stream. Cheers
@@skyshark091 yes definitely smallscale pvp vid coming very soon!
Any written guide?
have you tried messing around with more melee spec instead of wand? im more into melee but still want the benefits from wand its so hard to min max a good rotation for it thou
dagger is not a good primary weapon
Can this beat Xbow/dagger 1v1. Like what would win more in a duel?
@@Rambow808 xbow is the hardest matchup for this build because of mortal mark. It’s still definitely winnable but you have to play extremely well. In an equal skill level fight though xbow wins 9/10 times
@@tre632 thanks man. Just worried they gonna nerf xbow and this wand dagger looks so cool. I don’t care for metas I wanna play what looks nice to me. Thanks again I subbed
@@Rambow808 thanks for the sub my g
so for your large scale do you have different things set up. some of the skills in your 1v1 dps stuff take the adaptation to change the skill to something else. do you revert to the normal ones for large scale combat?
Can you also spread Burn stacks if played Wand/staff?
@@kurisu1204 hmm im not sure
@@tre632 burn stacks can in fact be spread. I m hard deciding on trying something similar like this but staff wand. Technically it should do even more aoe dmg but i would need to see to to survive.
Is there a spesific reason for one of your builds going for 2 pieces of "Field General" or is it just for stats? (does the set bonus do anything for our curse bomb?)
For leveling which skill prio would you go for? I'm having an hard time around level 13 xD Goblins hit hard kekw
for leveling I just used the curses and cleaving moonlight for damage, swift healing was enough to keep me alive through the leveling process. Focus on leveling up all you curses and cleaving moonlight
What about the mana problems? I find myself always low on mana :(
@@BlackWings262 make sure you use dagger Q block to regen mana whenever you can. Also utilize the mana passives in wand as well as the mana regen passive in dagger
So the video is Wand/Dagger, but the builds have the dagger as main hand. Does this make a difference? I currently have wand in the main hand
@@ChrisByrdGames daggers are in my mainhand for the evasion mastery bonus. I consider the build to be wand/dagger because 95% of my damage and offense comes from wand, the daggers provide me utility and defensive stats
@@tre632 ah okay, so the evasion mastery bonus only works with dagger in main hand? I assumed both the weapon bonuses applied their mastery bonuses at the same time
@@ChrisByrdGames Yea, masteries are the only thing like that where it only applies the masteries of the weapon thats currently in your hand
When it comes to gearing the build that you've made has very low hit. How do you manage to deal with people who build magic evasion or use daggers, I very often face opponents who will be hard to hit due to their evasion but then if I spec in to more hit i'll lose the melee evasion and be below the evasion needed to avoid greatsword burst.
What are we building melee evasion for, is it to counter gs dagger? like what's the reason for the melee evasion stack and only 600-700 hit
@@Leandril well its tough to get past 1k hit with wand anyway, but most of my builds are 800+ hit not counting food buff. Melee eva is cause they’re just gonna run you down if you don’t have it, nothing you can really do to stop it whereas you can play around the dmg from ranged/magic.
@@tre632 I see, also does swirling essence 2 piece set bonus not work for our curses? Just asking cause wouldn't that 7.5s weaken duration add alot of damage ( if it works )
Hi there! I started dagger/wand. I didnt see any guide before, so.. What u think about Dagger main then wand?
You could use daggers as your main damage but then you're strictly limited to single target and you need to use thunderclouds combos which will proc tons of barriers on longbow users. In 1v1/smallscale it could be okay but you have to pay attention to who you're hitting and make sure that you don't dive a longbow user
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the trustworthiness of Maxroll pvp builds?
@@kingd1486 honestly I have not looked at any maxroll builds. If you want you can link the one you’re curious about and I can take a look and give you my opinion on it
How do you sleep so many enemies when Karmic Haze says its only spreading to 3?
Your gonna need a higher hit chance no? And what’s better for this build melee evasion or ranged evasion? Magic or melee?
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which bracelet from the arena should i take ?
@@JonModafokin1 I’m not planning on using any of the arena bracelets. I’ll have to do some testing but on paper I’m not liking any of them over the evasion bracelets
And can I ask you if this build is good from youtube "Throne and Liberty - Wand/Dagger Gate of Infinity Maze of Death" thanks !
@@YTB_Incognito I found the video you’re talking about, its outdated as that build was from before skill specializations came out
@@tre632 Thanks for the answer , u goat!!!
How does Wand/Dagger feel when solo farming? Are you DPSing or healing in PvE dungeons? I'm assuming in PvP you are a sleep bomber?
Do you think the armor setup you listed would be viable for PvE and leveling? I've heard that pvp setups translate well to pve but not necessarily vice-versa. I'm pretty torn between wand/dagger, SnS/GS, SnS/Wand, and GS/Dagger
I've had no issues doing any content whether it be PvP or PvE with these gear setups. Early on you will have to be mindful of your mana in dimensional dungeons but other than that the PvE is very good. All the options you listed are very good weapon sets and can definitely be played in any level of PvP, however GS/Dagger is a bit weak in dimensional dungeons but the devs have been making efforts to bring its bossing strength up. I would say if those are your choices I wouldn't worry about how strong they are because they're all very very viable, just pick the one that fits you best stylistically
@tre632 I appreciate it! I think I like the hybrid utility of the wand/ dagger. How do you manage the mana issues you mentioned? I've heard that wand/dagger Is rough because the cooldowns are long and hard to manage. Do you think that's the case?
@@jimmyc1510 For general PvE assassins step (dagger passive) and full of corruption (wand passive) solve all your mana worries, but for bossing when you don't have easy access to those passive you would have to be picky with when you use your healing skills as those are the ones that eat the most mana. The Vampiric Contract passive in wand allows you to keep constant passive heals on the tank as long as you have them targeted and have a curse on the boss, so you get to save a lot of mana that way (assuming you're healing the dungeon). If you're just DPS in the dungeons then your mana is not a problem because you can use more of your dagger dps skills which don't cost nearly as much. As for the cooldowns I build into wisdom and cooldown reduction so my cooldowns are actually pretty short, especially if you manage your defensive skills properly you have very high uptime.
@tre632 is it difficult to play in pvp?.thank you for the patience and help
@@jimmyc1510 It's a different playstyle than most other weapon sets. I would say it's difficult because you have to be very particular with your cooldowns and combos since our damage relies on stacking debuffs properly. We don't have that instant pressure button like other DPS do (eg. judement lightning from staff or deathblow / guillotine blade from GS). We have to play very differently against everything which takes some getting used to but once you get the hang of it and start mastering your cooldowns wand/dagger is very strong
Maxroll mentions that melee evasion isn’t worth it on higher levels? What’s your opinion?
Strongly disagree with that. Melee has way too much CC to not build evasion against in my opinion. People only say its not worth because you need a lot of evasion to counter how much hit melees can build but there's ways to build enough
I wonder how is this possible while Im making combo aoe for 7k max and u have this much dmg ? Im semi blue and purple with eq 30/30/30/33 with stats
This video was before NA launch on korean servers where my perception was 60, wisdom was 50 and strength was 30 as well as dex being 30. Even still you should definitely be doing more than 7k max with a proper combo as long as you have all the curse duration effects (wraiths beckon passive from wand, curse time up wand mastery, touch of despair skill specialization)
I have the same spells and skill specs as u on questlog for small and large , I do both but have the feeling that dmg is not right even with the good combo
@@loczekXdPl add me on discord: Tre688
Maybe I can get with you to figure it out there
just wanted to ask why use unlucky clock in small scale vs another defensive skill? :D
personal preference, I like the option for the huge burst that unlucky clock provides. I just rely more on positioning to make up for not having another defensive skill. You can definitely run more defensives instead though
@@tre632 from what I read on the skill all it does is increase the curse duration by 5s, or does it do something else 😵💫
@@EmperorRaom yea it increases the duration by 5s but curse explosion deals ALL the damage that your curses would’ve done over their entire duration. So adding 5s to both ToD and Decaying touch before exploding makes it do tons more dmg
@@tre632 oooooh that is nuts then xD, thanks for the help :)
@@EmperorRaom np homie
Do you need to stack 3 tod to do maximum dmg? Some people said it.
to do MAXIMUM damage, yes. but realistically you don't always have to get full stacks to kill people depending on the situation
This is a really noob question, but how do you do AOE with sleep? My sleep seems to be single target. :D I cannot figure it out
@@The98thelement the skill “karmic haze” spreads all curses on your target to everyone within a radius. Since sleep is a curse it also gets spread
So what traits are the best for PvP
@@dancerscreiplot5695 hit, heavy hit, crit on weapons
Evasions and max hp on armor
Skill dmg boost/res, buff duration, max hp on accessories
im confused what skill set did u use for the build ur using in this video because there are some skills that just don't match up
can you show us the full bomb combo not just the simple one? ty :D
Sure, I've been getting some clips of me bombing huge groups in largescale pvp on my streams. I'll be putting all the clips together soon for a video and i'll explain how to do proper bombs
@@tre632 yo whats ur twitch name
my masssleep is most of the time not hittin? what can be the problem
@@calmyyy hit chance and weaken chance are important to land sleeps, target selection as well, try to target lomgbow/staff or staff/wand or longbow/wand as those are the most reliable targets to land sleeps on
@@tre632 thanks man
what would you recommend for pve bossing as dps? Your build seems to be more healer oriented and in my team there is already a healer
@@lepanit For pure dps on bosses I would run all the same curses (touch of despair, decaying touch, curse explosion, time for punishment) but I would add the thunderclouds stuff from dagger
Cleaving moonlight: double attack + apply thunderclouds
Brutal incision: thunderclouds bombing + cooldown reduc if possible
Inject venom: thunderclouds + cooldown reduc if possible
Fatal stigma: damage boost on targets lost hp
@@tre632 thank you so much, you're a hero!
@@lepanit np, good luck
How do you do your skills for PVE Farming?
Heres my skill loadouts for PvE: imgur.com/a/md3FpTk
Here's a video of me doing a full dungeon run as healer: ua-cam.com/video/1ttTBr4hHes/v-deo.html
may i also ask what your gear is? youre hitting 20k+ Im 2400 GS hitting roughly 5k with this same exact loadout/setup
@@apeck1997 In this video I was 3k, this was from the korean servers. Currently on NA im 2.6k and hitting for almost the same as this video though
@@tre632wuuut
Got about 2.9 gs - max hit with bomb around 5-6k😮
I cant open the link to your build :(
did they remove decaying touch i cant find it anywhere
@@moosemanhartmoose5558 it’s the first skill specialization for cursed magic circle
@@tre632 aah i see ty
@@moosemanhartmoose5558 np, hope you have fun with the build
Is it possible deal dungeons as dagger/wand or do you just swap out dagger for the instance? I just ran it at 50 and it felt bad but I dont know if thats just because there wasnt a tank really
think it was just a shit party cleared it and got leq with crit first run lol, any guides you can rec for gear progression im quiet lost (aside from doing contracts and dungeons
Wand/dagger is good for dungeons, congrats on the leq dagger drop. As far as guides for gear progression the link in the description has all the gear I look for going up from green to blue all the way to T1 and T2 purples, you can click on the items and view them in the database to see how to get them
can u play wand dagger as dps in pve dungeons? how is its damage? i like the idea of the build but i dont want to heal
@@JohnSmith-h8u yes you can, here are all my builds i have a dungeon dps build in there
1v1/Smallscale A: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=2237
1v1/Smallscale B: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=18900
Largescale Bomber: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=2239
Dungeon Healer: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=3958
Dungeon DPS: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=33819
AOE mob grinding: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/skill-builder/oLKQLrETLuxp?build-id=33813
@@tre632 NICE!!! is its damage comparable to others or is it on the lower end for pve? im definitely playing dagger wand after seeing your vids
@@JohnSmith-h8u its damage is comparable to everything except xbow/dagger or longbow/staff. those are the two highest dps weapon sets by far
How good is wand/dagger in 1v1s for dueling purposes?
Very strong in 1v1. Greatswords and crossbows are our tough matchups which is why I typically build heavily into melee and ranged evasion to help our weaknesses.
Honestly do not know what I am doing wrong , I have all right traits , stats , equipment , have not seen anything above 4 k damage and even that is rare and not with this combo.
Men the only problem i see is the low hit chance
@@antonioarthur9312 yea on wand you cant really get a lot of hit chance. in T1 gear ill be at around 900-1k in T2 ill be around 1.2k
Bro can you upload some pve open dungeon ? Aoe farm something
that build works in pve?
How u can get Mana?
I build into wisdom and spec into a decent amount of mana regen on my gear. If you follow the gear builds I put in the description then mana shouldn't be a big issue as long as you're using the assassins step dagger passive as well as the full of corruption wand passive.
is it good ? cuz a friend tells me that is off meta and doesn't deal any damage - compared to bow dagger maybe ? crossbow dagger ?
It's good. I'm currently ranked #3 in the server for kill ranking. It definitely deals good damage
How is it for PvE?
@@causticj open world mobbing: S tier
Dungeon dps: B tier
Dungeon healer: A+ tier
u need to use ur mic bro. u have a good voice.
@@rheicc next video will have voice-over
can we use this build as PvE?
i dont understand :((((( my dmg is shyt. :( and similar stats
Make sure you have all the curse duration bonuses I have. Curse duration is what boosts our damage the most outside of flat base-damage. Wraiths beckon wand passive, curse time wand mastery, touch of despair skill specialization
Why are you saying to use cleaving moonlight, but on your action bar youre not using it?
I have a few different builds, one of the loadouts uses cleaving moonlight, the others trade it out for more survivability. I've been running cleaving moonlight a lot so far on global though. You can see me use it a lot in my other videos
there is always a missing spell in your skill builder ?
Missing slots are flex spots for your preference
@@tre632 okai thank you
@@calmyyy you're welcome, have fun
@@tre632 thanks brother, i have often the problem in openworld dungeons, that i cant sleep ppl the resist it
@@tre632 also another question, im sorry. will our playstile still be viable in t2 or sieges? i wanna stay with dagger/wand till the end
Hey Tre, Is there a third weapon you could use in this build that wouldn't require changing up your gear? I don't know exactly how this game works but figured I would only be able to play enough to really get 1 set of gear leveled. Thanks!
Yes, Staff works as a 3rd weapon because staff/dagger and staff/wand are both very viably weapon comps
i need som like this but staff dagger u.u
wait a damn second. So this is kinda like a warlock cursing and exploding the curses? your primarily fighting in ranged?
Yes exactly, I fight at mid to long range depending on gear.
@@tre632does the inject apply to wand basic attacks? Can we just wand for main?
@@eyelove4206 inject venom does apply to wand basic attacks but I typically don't use my wand basic attacks unless I really need to or if I know that its safe to