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00:00 - Intro
01:07 - Heresy Era
10:36 - Eskrador
13:55 - Traitors
24:12 - Loyalists
29:36 - Wildcards
34:09 - Point of Conflict
36:37 - The End and The Death Vol 1
38:44 - Bequin
41:12 - Authors
43:56 - Outro
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I am Alpharius.
Wait a minute, if you’re Alpharius…
And I’m Alpharius…
THEN WHOS FLYING THE STORMBIRD?!
Other Alpharius, I am Alpharius and flying this ship.
@leighz1962 *For some reason you look alot like Horus....wait all of you look like Horus!HORUUUUUUS*
Sure you are mortal…
Lmao😂😂😂😂😂 said the rest of the legion
I feel like Games Workshop is going to intentionally keep the Alpha Legion in their back pocket until a 40K “end times” scenario.
Probably!
In Warhammer 40K - the “end times” starts at 9am ….Monday. EVERY MONDAY to be precise.
@@wellthatsokay8582and everyday is Monday
Guilliman's job is to keep everything working.
The Lion's job is to be better than everyone else.
Alpharius's job is to know how to beat people who are better than him.
If these primarchs played chess, they'd all be good at it. Guilliman would win by referencing the best statistical practices. The Lion would be able to use any strategy that presented itself. Alpharius would blackmail your landlord into sabotaging your apartment so you were stressed and sleepless, then hold your loved ones hostage unless you forfeit, then slip you psychedelics if you insisted on playing. Nothing in the rules of chess prevent this.
lols
Alpharius: "Guilliman doesn't know I'm eating the chess pieces when he's not looking"
@@zigmus00A lmao
Theyd all constantly stalemate because chess is a spreadsheet flow chart. The primarchs easily have the ability to remember every move and the proper counter play.
That last example sounds *awfully* specific, Sir ... lol
I can’t believe that Alpharius turned out to be 50 grots in a Primarch suit.
That's funny as fuck, lol. I laughed out loud, well done 😂😂
SPOILERS SHIES
Actually we’re 54 grots
This is a lie
50? I thought it was 69, the second sacred number of slaanesh.
i want another massive meeting of Alpha Legion, all of them yelling and shouting and lying and scheming.... and one of the bodyguards, a guy who hasn't done shit this entire time except stand behind his boss, gripping his bolter and scanning the crowd.... he just sighs. Softly. But everyone in the room hears it. And he kind of straightens up, steps forwards into the center of the room.
"..........i am disappointed in all of you my sons."
Everyone asks "Who is Alpharius ?"
No one asks "how is Alpharius ?"
Mental health issues are important guys.
😔👏
thats some omegon bitchin right there
Where is Alpharius? 😉
What is alpharius
"I'll do you one better; why is Alpharius?"
At this point, the timeline of the twin primach's actions has gotten so confusing that I just refer to the one found on Terra as "The First" and the one found during the Great Crusade as "The Final," named so for the order in which they were revealed to the Emperor, specifically.
Alpha(rius) and Omega(on) the Beginning and the End
@@McHobotheBobowhat if that were referencing "the end of ignorance" as in the beginning of the great crusade, and also referencing "the beginning of the end" in terms of being the last Primarch found
Speaking of the twins, how are
Tomax & Xamot???😂
"Fuck the plot railroad -- we're sandboxing this bitch!"
-- The Alpha Legion, probably.
It's refreshing to see a solid deep dive on this by someone who is passionate about the most Alpha of Legions. I feel like too many lore channels focus too heavily on one aspect or another of the legion, skewing the pespectively heavily as if that is the whole of the picture. But the Alpha Legion is filled with loyalists, traitors, and everything in between, which is only exacerbated by the fragmentation they've suffered like many of the other traitor legions.
I do hope that one day GW gets around to giving us a proper Alpha Legion civil war, probably with the return of Alpharius/Omegon to the 40k setting. But that's probably a long way off at best.
Every other Chaos Legion has begun to reunite or reform, mostly around their Primarchs or their successors like Talos 2.0 or Abaddon, it seem Criminal for the Alpha Legion to not do the same even if at the cost of a civil war.
I think we just need something to galvanize the loyalist elements into a proper counterpart to the traitorous elements. It would have the twin theme in their leadership and has some fun narrative potential of them setting aside their differences when given common cause.
Effectively finding, if only for a brief time, a course of action not exclusive to either, a third path. Feels like a backwards enough way of not only reuniting the different sides of the legion under a new purpose that mirrors that of their gene-father.
you truly are the warhammer 30k now
dude its amazing i was here since 5k to see you grow
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STICKING AROUND MAN 😭🧡
If nothing else I love painting my Alpha Legion marines. Add a few chaos and loyalist bits for some misdirection and some spooky. And make it look like each was on their own operating in different theaters for a long time.
I realy like the ideas of the alpha legion returning with a loyal primarch so that maybe a loyal primarch could fall to chaos (maybe even after all of them have returned and it comes to a civil war about how to lead the imperium)
Corax coming back as a Daemon Primarch and Omegon returning as a loyalist would be the most viable 'trade' imo.
@@PoolNoodleGundam nah have em both return as loyalist but make lorgar actually do something oh a keep ferrus manus dead lol
Favorite character I've made for one of the Fantasy Flight 40k TTPRG's was an Alpha Legion marine. He had no name, just a code name. He remembered the Heresy but there where many gaps in his memory of the following 10.000 years and was strangely unmarked by any chaos corruption. All he did ever did was follow his orders, given to him by Alpharius Omegon himself. Follow "the plan". And he did, even though he never really know what "the plan" was. Many of his memories where locked behind certain conditions and code phrases that, if achieved or spoken, would give him access to remember more of "the plan". He wore an original corvus armor, stolen from the Raven Guard in ancient times, but remarkedly well preserved for being 10.000 year old. He was notorious among the Inquisition, who had created an entire Ordo Minoris just to deal with him, and they seemingly had by killing him, several times, only for him to mysteriously reappear again some decades later each time.
The secret was that he was not just one marine but many. Every time a version of him died another Alpha Legionary would get the memories of all the precious ones available transplanted into him and become the new one. Then that version would spend some time anonymously, gathering new and old contacts, finding old and new war gear, and then suddenly just reappear out of nothing in the galactic scene. And then continue "the plan".
Would be interesting if after everyone laughs at the "old fashioned" 'I am Alpharius' bit, Omegon returns and uses 'I am Omegon' in front of those that laughed.
No one claims to be Omegon, so it would be a fun little way to twist it and make them all realise he isn't BS'ing them.
You know I always thought there's a third Alpha legion Primarch out there, But what do you guys think?
Personally no I dont think so
Sigmarius the Top G is out there making paper ridin his Bugatti class ship
I always thought the third head represents the legion itself. Even without their primarchs, the legion lives on its own
@@livefromtheblacklibrary GW when money will go low Deltagon, Betarius, Gammos
Nah bro. All Alpha legionaries are Primarchs
Thank you for the videos. Alpha Legion is my favorite legion, and i love how deeply you go into things and the theories you have. Its really reignite my passion for them more than any other Warhammer 40k youtuber has. How much you go into the lore, and your thoughts and theories make your video incredibly enjoyable. You helped inspire me and have been a big source of knowledge and ideas for my own alpha legion warband "Just a Conspiracy." Hope the best for your channel and hope you continue to make these high-quality alpha legion and iron warriors videos.
Hydra Dominatus!
YOOOOO THATS SO GREAT TO HEAR AND THE WARBAND SOUNDS DOPE AS FUCK 👀
@@livefromtheblacklibrary I do really appreciate your videos, you actually read the books and do more research than just skimming the Warhammer 40k wiki unlike most other Warhammer youtuber I feel.
You landed a killer hat trick with this video my dude. Your original alpha legion content was how I found the channel - that set your style, philosophical/psychology touch that really set you apart. Big fan.
Congratulations on the 30k milestone, you absolutely deserve it and more.
I personally believe both Alpharius *and* Omegon are alive and any supposed killings have been doppelgangers. Alpha Legion is overall loyalist, operating to keep the Imperium from growing complacent and to undermine the Traitors
How could a regular marine fight a Primarch well enough to convince them its a Omegon?
@@MetalsirenIXI Unique aspect of the Alpha Legion is when one of their marines drinks the blood of their primarch they essentially get turbo-charged
I really want the primarch to return, arrive to a meeting of warbands and go "I am Omegon" and just suck the air out of the room. Everyone just stunned, silent and confused
Alpha legion: yes yes we have heard it all bef....what did you say
Omegon: I am Omegon, and you are?
We have a security breach.
*loads bolter with Alpharius intent*
Can Chrono do a video about how Bruva Alfabusa and TTS shaped the wider 40K community?
“How TTS Changed Everything” would be a cool topic I’ll admit 👀
@@livefromtheblacklibrary did you ever get an email from me about that subject?
What did they change? I dont consume this media
@@sordschie3944 TTS is famous for the Fabulous Custodes. Just look it up for yourself to understand
@@sordschie3944essential they made it easier to dive into Warhammer 40k in my case. My introduction to 40K was the 1st Space Marine game, but TTS was what drew me into Warhammer.
tTs is essentially comedy and lore explanation wrapped into 1
whats funny is the lore basically says "yeah no the cabal's plan would never work to stop chaos" as chaos exists everywhere the warp is.... which is literally everywhere, and the warp trancends time so even if you starved chaos at one single point in time it would survive due to every other point of time
So good to see this video out, and boy is it another banger. I am actually really glad you are such an AL fan because honestly you seem to be the only creator who give them a decent time of day without either deriding them or just making them a big meme.
I really hope GW does have plans for them, in a perfect world I'd love to see an AL faction that on the table top that is independent of the CSM. Seeing how the Dark Angels are working with redeemed elements of the Fallen now, it would be cool to see an AL alternative to that.
20:26 Bro😂, tbh I usually cant sit through hour long videos, but i find kronos' scripts, line delivery, voice and sense of humour to be very entertaining
The Unsung should join the nightlords and paint lightning strikes across their armour
the alpha legion are my favorite legion. In the Alpharius primarch book its implied that he went traitor to undermine chaos from within and that hes still the emperors sword that the alpha legion is a ghost legion and Alpharius still being loyal just makes sense considering he was raised by Malcador and the Big E.
29:16 I agree wholeheartedly about loyalist Alpha Legion members same goes with Cypher to a certain extent and being a bit more interesting as how they have to react to the galaxy
Once again 'Live!' crushes some Alpha Legion content.
So happy to see the growth, you're content is genuinely some fresh stuff.
Legion was a great book. Hurtado Bronzi was the best mortal character In all the heresy books.
I just watched your Imperial Fists video and I neeeeed you to bring back that jazzy intro goddamn I was groovin
Yeah but it actually hurts my retention rate :( I usually get like 72% still watching after the first 30 seconds but with the intro it goes down to like 52%
@@livefromtheblacklibrary damn okay I mean thats fair but I suppose the intro can rest easy knowing it was at least appreciated
I have always been in love with the idea that the Alpha Legion Stasis pods under the Imperial Palace have been left in tact. The Custodes know the codes and see prematurely killing them off as weakening Terra's hand if shit gets so bad that they need a quick boost of reinforcements, or a distraction.
Like, almost EVERY Bloodgame has the invading Custodes ponder opening one or two, but leaves them there out of a mixed sense of pride and duty. EVERY resource is at their disposal, if they can get their hands on it. This though? It stays.
*Queue image of a Custodes slapping the mechadendrite of a curious Martian priest.*
0:37 we just gone ingore that god tier art
I can't wait for the chaos space marine codex to come out to see how the alpha legion plays.
Thanks for making videos on the alpha legion, they are some of the most interesting faction in 40k
Excellent video. I love the thoroughness of your content.
I think having them splintered suits GW’s narrative interests at present. That keeps you guessing what a specific group of Alpha Legion marines in a story are really up to.
When I was reading Harrowmaster I had a really hard time reading it. Solomon felt too good, too kind. I know it’s from his point of view but the entire time reading it I wished some heresy era Marnie’s would come and smack him down a peg. Not a bad book but Solomon was to close to an oc than I would like.
"I am Omegon!"
Personally id like to see the Legion become hated by Choas but untrusted by the Imperium but accepted
45 min video nice ill put it play to sleep . thankss love long format video
Ayyyy glad you like it! I also used to fall asleep to lore videos XD
Lets freakin GOOOOOO! Awesome video btw. Learning more about the legion because of your book suggestions so I'm loving the content 💪
Thanks for this. Even my friends into Warhammer aren’t into Alpha Legion lore and I’m the only one who read most of their books. It’s good to hear this and see different view and filling in gaps I missed.
45 min nice I only watchnlong format videos . Playing on repeat also at night helping me sleep nice work man
On the note of people potentially not recognising a Primarch, there's the War of the False Primarch still lurking in the background. I know it's unlikely, but I love to entertain the possibility that the False Primarch was indeed Omegon and things played out exactly as you described.
3:18 the 63rd expedition was the Luna wolves one, the one they actually helped was in the thousands and only had human support
Btw I just finished end and the death and it states he was initiating loyalty for Horus
According to The Horus Heresy Book Three Extermination from Forge World, Ghost Legion was a name given by some within the early Great Crusade era Imperium to Astartes conducting covert operations later attributed to the Alpha Legion.
As a new fan of the Alpha Legion, I have to say I thoroughly enjoy your content 😎 and I get excited for you full videos and shorts. Keep up the great work 👌🏻. Hydra Dominatus 🐍
My response to the Omegon video was:
It's an hour long?
HELL YEAH! LET'S GO!
I am a very strange person.
I think the shattering was intentional on Omegon's part. The "third way" was endless war between humanity and Chaos (think in Legion about Alpharius' thought experiment that utopias are impossible to reach, but empires and built and maintained by constant conflict). Once Alpharius was out of the picture, Omegon had to balance the equation by taking himself out of the Legion's command structure. Without either Primarch to guide them, infighting increased, playing both sides continued. The goal is not to fully destroy the Imperium or Chaos, but to lock them both in a never-ending cycle of war.
Even if that wasnt their intention between the two of them, that was definitely the results they are getting. I like that much better than the written-in goal to destroy humanity/imperium to rid the world of chaos.
Very interesting video, I like how you take into the account the various activity of the different writers, their backgrounds.
I like the current state of things with the alpha legions, but I would also like they took a more proeminent role in the Warhammer40K universe.
If Cipher did turn out to be Alpharius that would make the "Not Yet" quote make so much more sense
I read that same book 14 years ago. How time flies. I really could’ve done a 40k channel before 99% of people today.
I wonder how that might have been…
We need a book where there’s a civil war or about a planet in which one side is being supported with traitors and one with loyalist be it Space Marine or Imperial Guard or just a book about Omegon coming back into the future
Keep it up. Your commentary style is unique. You’ll do well.
If you are referring to my comment on Majorkill's video, I said you could are the only loretuber who explained Alpharius/Omegon and Alpharius in a way I understood, rather than the normal lore regurgitation.
Ngl but that laughing scene on whats suppose to be "tradition" scream quite lefty.
Then again, video was great...abbadon 2.0 aside of a new guy getting everything from resource, supports, equipment (possible) and scoffs at the traditions of heresy alpha legion.
But its also a fun Jab at the meme of "I am alpharius"
Like your background music man. Good work overall. ❤
For the emperor?
Well no but actually yes
Huge points for dropping a reference to the Spanish civil war into an Alpha Legion video. That was the war which introduced the term “5th column” so it’s very appropriate.
"Brake the chain and forge the link."
"Forge the link and brake the chain."
∞
One thing that does seem inevitable is a serious attempt by some Heresy-Era Marines to take control of Solomon Akurra's organisation. Considering how rare it is for a Chaos Marine as young as him to have this much power I can't see this not happening.
I like to belive that the whole "I am alpharius" thing is the équivalent of "I'm Ryan Gosling" in the 40k universe
Loved the 1hour long vid. Made my pale spear ready for action
Great video man. I'm a huge fan of the Alpha Legion and this just vibes for me. Didn't Omegon hide within the Lernaen terminators while Alpharius(or whoever was playing as Aloharius) was the head?
YES thank your making my long ride home later something to look forward to
IRON WITHIN!!! ❤
IRON WITHOUT 😤
Iron Warriors, aka math nerds with rage issues
I really liked the video! I'm personally pretty hyped by the idea of an alpha civil war and the primarch return! (plus I've just seen your video about the alpha légion yesterday so it a perfect timing to dive in it xD)
Thought I have a interrogation since you believe it is the first primarque who have potentially survive (and I believe to) why are you calling him omegron? It should be alpharius no? I'm confused xD
What if Alpharius's death is retconned in the future by GW and it's revealed to be just a dream/false memory Rogal Dorn had? Not a hard thing to write in a setting where Psychic powers can brainwash people, case in point 2nd and 11th Primarchs.
Ok then I’d just rage
That'd be pretty bogus. Why make an entire book depicting the entire Horus Heresy just to go "aye lmao the whole battle was a dream lol got eem"
No chance, just read these books. They aren't just Rogal telling stories around a campfire.
They already have a Get Out of Jail Free card, don't you remember that drinking blood turns a marine into a Primarch?
@@nobleman9393in appearance only and only temporarily
Imagine a civil war that you don't even know who's loyal to your cause and you shoot anyone because of you're paranoia.
A long one, lovely
I'm a huge Alpha Legion fan and I hope they keep Omegon's fate a mystery. The mystery is half the fun with the Alpha Legion. That said, a civil war brought about by his return could be interesting and I'd be ok if done in the right way
Bro please please please do end and the Death vol 2
Would love to see a video with your thoughts on The End and the Death Volume 2
Imma need the end and the death full review and discussion form you as soon as your able
Is it possible that the Alpha Legionary with Eisenhorn, Death Row, has been enhanced with Alpharius’ blood, and he will reveal himself as Alpharius while the actual Alpharius lurks in the shadows, in case of Alpharius being targeted by either or both Imperial and Chaos forces when he tries to rebind the Legion together?
The real question is it possible it is the top snake himself? We know he can diminish his size and primarch aura. If anybody is brave enough to write a twist like that it's Dan abnett
@@Scott90314 It's entirely possible, but it's also possible that he'll pretend that that Alpharius is the actual Alpharius while the actual Alpharius is off Alphariusing elsewhere.
More Hydra!!!! Let’s goooo
Listen bloodletting a necessary thing for organizations…
You kinda took my V card with the Alpha Legion lore right now. It was worth it.
I laughed so hard at the Spider-Man clip my dog came to investigate
What do you want to bet that when the original twin went missing he started the assasinorum
I think if Alpharius/Omegon actually appeared, the Alpha Legion would immediately know it's them. Primarchs have an air about them that makes them unmistakeable, when they aren't trying to hide it, that is.
31:50 "We should take their metal boxes!"
So im a bit confused on the naming. To my understanding, alpharius is the one found on earth, omegon is the alien spear one found later. From what you stated in this and the other video(third path) you say the alien one died on pluto. So if the alien one, omegon, died on pluto, why do u refer the escrador one as “omegon-turned -alpharius”? Sorry if this is a dumb questions just a bit confused. To my knowledge, “Pluto Alpharius” is omegon, and “Escrador Alpharius” is Alpharius.
Wooooooooh Chrono time!
ITS CLOWNING TIME
Just want to say love the content
Hydra Dominatus
Hey! I watched your other Alpha Legion video talking about Omegon and his whereabouts. If I recall correctly, you said you thought Alpharius was the alive brother. I may have just missed it or just have gotten confused (typical alpha legion lore lol) do you still think this? I really like that theory and was curious if your position changed.
Or if i just misunderstood from the beginning 😭
Can you make a short with Alpha Legion reading list? You mention some I never heard of.
this video is feeding my decision anxiety on what group of space marines I should start with... Maybe I should paint all of them?
Dude I got put in the ward for my anxiety, and my job is threatening to fire me.
Things aren't great rn.
Thank you for making great vids though 🤍🖤
HOLY SHIT DUDE I HOPE YOURE OK 😭 I’m glad I could help take your mind off things!
We actually get inside the head of the Sorceror in charge of the AL working for Be'lakor when he fights Vashtorr. In Charadon pt 2. He's fully in the thrall of Be'lakor, who is able to read his mind and deeper consciousness.
Idk if you'll ever see this but I'd like to suggest an idea for a video:
What would a primarch turn out like if they ended up on different xenos worlds?
I think it'd be fun speculation and idk if anyone has ever covered this idea before.
A joke about how a scattered primarch would turn out on a tyranid world writes itself but I guess you could talk about how them being eaten would affect the hive fleet and it might be interesting to speculate about how a primarch would develop if they ended up in a genestealer cult too.
If you wanted to flesh the video out with extra content you could discuss how you think the Horus heresy would affect them and their chances of becoming a traitor - maybe the Eldar-raised primarch would end up defecting back to a craftworld? Maybe the Tau primarch wouldn't have ever left and so they'd be completely unaffected by the events of the heresy?
I wonder if a Drukhari-raised primarch would have contacts within the Drukhari and be able to broker a deal between them and Angron to get the butcher's nails safely removed in exchange for them keeping the tech..?
I feel like there would be a lot to explore in this idea.
Love your stuff, keep up the good work!
Solomon is Omegon . Ok I can’t back that up
They turned a Callidus? holy crap.
What you really think that assassin can't be turned? Assassin's aren't Custodes you know.
Aaaah. The Alpha Legion. So confusing and random it honestly makes them fun as hel.
Primarch aura is a hell of a thing
Plot twist: The marine who stood up in Solomon Akurra's meeting and said "I am Alpharius" actually _was_ Alpharius.
You luetin majorkill and arch are the lore gods of 40k lore.
What I want is for the entire Harrowmaster plot line to turn out to be a trap aimed at gathering the traitorous Alpha legionaries into a single cohesive force which can then be destroyed in a decisive engagement.
that literally happened in the book and it failed miserably
One group i was in said my pre-heresy legion was thousand suns and post heresy loyalizt was alpha legion-and this was before recent books with it being even more ambigious.
Awesome
But the one thing you are missing is that omegon and alpharius (the first found) switched places as soon as they met and talked on the planet alpharius (first found) collects omegon.
Henceforth the one known as omegon is actually the original alpharius. Making the alpharius killed by dorm actually omegon (the second found)
Meaning the real slim alpharius (first found) is the one who fights guiliman (but does as you say and sends a proxy who is killed instead)
This was by design
To continue to work in the shadows as the sword in the dark.
The living alpharius (first found and who was known as omegon after the switch ) is the one who is and always was the “sword in the dark”
I don't think you'd see Omegon come back and say "I am Alpharius."
Rather
"I am Solomon", no questions about the blood on my spear please.
The alpha legion has strong motifs around the number 3. 3 headed hydra, 3 diamonds, the third way, etc.
The joke about alpharius being turned into triplets seems a bit far fetched to me, but it could be true in a different way. The alpha legion is broken into pieces with different allegiances. Loyalist, chaos, and independant. Black, white, and grey. Thesis, antithesis, synthesis. Alpharius, Omegon, Alphagon? Perhaps to unite a divided legion, the primarch will have to recover and unite the parts of himself.
22:20 that’s kinda why I don’t think he should write the book if Alpharius comes back.