Lady Gin Envision Her New Brothel and Father Marin's Reaction to His Church Next to It Shogun

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    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel Місяць тому

      The irony is that a church situated right next to a brothel is a perfect arrangement for Catholics.

  • @fungunsun1
    @fungunsun1 Місяць тому +583

    Priest does not know his blessings. His attendance will skyrocket.

    • @asianbandit4054
      @asianbandit4054 Місяць тому +25

      Sunday Mass in the morning, quick lunch with the family, tea with the boys in afternoon, come evening embracing vices the priest talked about in the morning.

    • @dandansfu
      @dandansfu Місяць тому +21

      More like
      Since there are no young underage boys nearby , they can really focus on other religious activities
      Toranaga was thoughtful

    • @km077
      @km077 29 днів тому +2

      @@dandansfu Boys can be imported. Toranaga just denied them the excuse, since now courtesans will be much easier to obtain et masse. However, it all might prove to be hard to suddenly change tastes.

    • @catsupchutney
      @catsupchutney 18 днів тому +2

      Yep, if he were Mormon he'd be grateful for all the opportunity to win over wicked sinners.

    • @HarrisonRackemann
      @HarrisonRackemann 9 днів тому

      @@dandansfu You are disgusting and shameless to make this comment.

  • @jd5179
    @jd5179 Місяць тому +540

    Sin in the evening, ask forgiveness the next morning - Lol

    • @TheCoolProfessor
      @TheCoolProfessor Місяць тому +43

      And within easy walking distance too!

    • @akiraperu1
      @akiraperu1 Місяць тому +15

      this how catolics conduct our entire business

    • @rattheninja2877
      @rattheninja2877 Місяць тому +4

      It’s almost too perfect

    • @dandansfu
      @dandansfu Місяць тому +3

      Only to find school boys in the church being SA

    • @HowlingWolf518
      @HowlingWolf518 Місяць тому

      Disney's Hunchback, but everybody is Frollo.

  • @KoiYakultGreenTea
    @KoiYakultGreenTea Місяць тому +387

    Its not just a brothel, a whole district and mini city. A whole new subculture of artist that would become the geishas. Her vision went far beyond a new brothel. Or even a tea house where people come to be served tea and be comforted by their psychologist courtesan women. And that's what omi is failing to see. He fails to see beyond the short term.

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 Місяць тому +20

      one of most notable marks of tokugawas 3 centuries reign on japan.

    • @kungalexander829
      @kungalexander829 Місяць тому +13

      I wonder what those "psychologist's" treatment for anxiety and depression besides talking 😏

    • @dacardinalway5409
      @dacardinalway5409 Місяць тому +13

      Omi’s entire character in the book is that he’s a visionary.

    • @jcarry5214
      @jcarry5214 Місяць тому

      Well he would have absolutely no idea what her overall plan was at this point, as far as he knows this woman is just another human slaver.

    • @km077
      @km077 29 днів тому

      @@kungalexander829 Idk, but I heard the tea is very good. like yummy-yummy good... or smth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @Remitonov
    @Remitonov Місяць тому +262

    Why the disappointment, Father? There'll be plenty of souls to save right there.

    • @celebrim1
      @celebrim1 Місяць тому +49

      Yeah, preacher's kid here, and that's just how my father would have responded to it - "Praise God for placing us where we are most needed."

    • @DakkogiRauru23
      @DakkogiRauru23 Місяць тому +3

      Amen!

    • @ducnhatnguyen4349
      @ducnhatnguyen4349 Місяць тому +3

      Yeah isn’t it make his job more meaningful?

    • @dandansfu
      @dandansfu Місяць тому +8

      Disappointed coz no young boys in sights
      Only women and men ……

    • @captainhyrule9741
      @captainhyrule9741 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@celebrim1 I used to attend a church that was in a part of town where there were a bunch of witchcraft and hex shops around

  • @77Tenacity1
    @77Tenacity1 Місяць тому +464

    Toranaga was trying to say that they are the same sort of people.

    • @KoiYakultGreenTea
      @KoiYakultGreenTea Місяць тому +113

      The biggest troll ever

    • @fLiPukcz
      @fLiPukcz Місяць тому +40

      In the book the madam is quite the character, deffo higher than the catholics in respect. tho not in the show as yet it seems.

    • @avonord
      @avonord Місяць тому +42

      I think Toranaga was saying F U, with literal F and lots of it. Lol

    • @slyguy8931
      @slyguy8931 Місяць тому +6

      Greatest way to put it

    • @hannotn
      @hannotn Місяць тому

      No, the brothel is merely the exchange of money for sexual services.... subject to the parties being free and consenting it's clean and mutually rewarding. But religion is a perversion of the human spirit, selling delusion and lies. Thankfully it no longer has suasion over any rational mind, as science renders it redundant.

  • @sealswimswim354
    @sealswimswim354 14 днів тому +12

    I admire Lady Gin’s actress. She captures a look I have only seen on my own mother. When she finally saved enough for a home in the country after raising 3 kids. Lady Kiku reminds me of myself as a supportive child. Centuries have passed, and this kind of honorable, sacrificial relationship between generations still shines through.

    • @luiscarlosmotasantos729
      @luiscarlosmotasantos729 7 днів тому +1

      Lady Gin is also a mother and a Mama-San. She is ambitious and miserly but also thinks about the well-being of her people. She may live from sin but she seeks to improve her situation and be the best at what she does both for herself and her children. Isn't that all mothers want?

  • @Gadget-Walkmen
    @Gadget-Walkmen Місяць тому +109

    Biggest troll in history.

    • @km077
      @km077 29 днів тому +2

      yet so practical

  • @SystemError62
    @SystemError62 Місяць тому +142

    Perfect combination pray during the day and have a restful night 😂

    • @LastCallB5ChallengerHellcat
      @LastCallB5ChallengerHellcat Місяць тому +8

      and either way youd be getting blessed

    • @SystemError62
      @SystemError62 Місяць тому +6

      @@LastCallB5ChallengerHellcat
      My thoughts exactly 😜

    • @km077
      @km077 29 днів тому +2

      @@LastCallB5ChallengerHellcat Indeed, the choo-choo train to heaven has two stations, to each their own.

  • @NeilsonBuntowa
    @NeilsonBuntowa Місяць тому +123

    Toronaga really is a troll lol hahaha. well atleast you got what you asked XD

    • @Stefanthenautilus
      @Stefanthenautilus 16 днів тому +1

      I started calling him Trollonaga halfway through the show. He really is about that life

  • @strappingyoungladygmg
    @strappingyoungladygmg Місяць тому +65

    Someone on Twitter put this scenes with the Curb Your Enthusiasm music and i haven't stopped laughing about it since

  • @gonaye1
    @gonaye1 Місяць тому +71

    Whoops… more people to pray for I guess 😂😂😂

    • @jeffwilliam7638
      @jeffwilliam7638 Місяць тому +7

      From father to daddy lmao

    • @gudhaxer41343
      @gudhaxer41343 Місяць тому

      ​@@jeffwilliam7638Back to father in a few day and vice versa

  • @thlee3
    @thlee3 Місяць тому +56

    like selling girl scout cookies outside the gym

  • @DakkogiRauru23
    @DakkogiRauru23 Місяць тому +27

    Father, it’s really not that bad! The light shines brightest in the dark corners. That the church will be built next to a brother gives a clear signal to the townsfolk that they have a choice besides enslaving themselves to carnal appetites.

    • @hannotn
      @hannotn Місяць тому +1

      .... or enslaving themselves to stone age delusion and fear of the boogeyman.

    • @TapOnX
      @TapOnX 8 днів тому +3

      I mean, biblically, Jesus would spend a lot of time with sinners, including prostitutes. And given how packed early modern European cities were, a catholic clergyman probably wouldn't be too perplexed by a church ending up close to a disreputable place.

  • @DZatheus
    @DZatheus Місяць тому +66

    I can't help but feel so happy for Gin. Her expressions from 0:18 onwards tell you her whole story.

    • @rannierunsfast
      @rannierunsfast Місяць тому +10

      The look of a person who achieved her dream

    • @LittleMissV
      @LittleMissV Місяць тому +9

      Really good acting here. When I saw her face, envisioning their future, it made me wonder what it took for her to get there. Then for her dream to finally be within reach, must be relieving.

    • @ha8536
      @ha8536 12 днів тому

      I liked the video just because of that expression, the look of someone finally seeing their dream realized after countless years of waiting and hoping is one I hope will grace my own face one day.

  • @privatexxxx4805
    @privatexxxx4805 Місяць тому +21

    This gives a complete new meaning to the phrase: plug-and-pray

  • @ferrymarshall5346
    @ferrymarshall5346 18 днів тому +7

    forgive me father for I have been next door

  • @lieutenantkettch
    @lieutenantkettch Місяць тому +15

    On the bright side, it gives you a reason to go to confession.

  • @zulucruz664
    @zulucruz664 Місяць тому +16

    Toranaga took personally “Jesus comes for the sick not for the healthy.”

  • @rickbruner5525
    @rickbruner5525 Місяць тому +28

    It's while sexual activity is still the main feature during this period we begin to see the development of what will become the Geisha. Though the geisha would not appear until the 1800s, the role and status of courtesans as artistic and romantic entertainers were a tradition that geisha came to inherit, with the basic artforms of entertaining guests through song, dance and conversation being employed and adapted to contemporary tastes.

    • @celebrim1
      @celebrim1 Місяць тому +8

      I've read autobiographies by Samurai. The idea that geisha weren't prostitutes doesn't hold up to scrutiny. They were prostitutes that the upper class could patronize while saying to themselves how superior they were to those that sought prostitutes. In reality, geisha would accept gifts and then offer sexual favors, under the pretense of mutual attraction. The term "courtesan" is a very good translation of a similar sort of upper-class prostitute in Western culture. They were professional mistresses, often of multiple men at the same time who would via for their attention.

  • @TheCoolProfessor
    @TheCoolProfessor Місяць тому +18

    That scowl isn't fooling anyone father. We know you have a loyalty card with her.

    • @dandansfu
      @dandansfu Місяць тому

      I don’t think they are interested in women
      Especially women over age of majority

  • @walterishere5864
    @walterishere5864 Місяць тому +9

    district's gonna be busy all day and night!

    • @varric
      @varric 19 днів тому +5

      Entertainment at night, confession at morning.

  • @bearserker3d
    @bearserker3d Місяць тому +65

    "We both peddle fantasies, mine just happen to be entertaining."
    - Lord Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish

  • @happypuppy8221
    @happypuppy8221 Місяць тому +9

    Acting in this show is amazing.

  • @rezag8369
    @rezag8369 Місяць тому +13

    Let’s see who converts more of the other’s followers 😂

  • @Shogun459
    @Shogun459 14 днів тому +2

    Jesus came to save the lost father Marin, not the righteous.
    You would do well to remember that and be thankful they do not have far to go to find your aid.

  • @raspberryPi1337
    @raspberryPi1337 18 днів тому +2

    There's room for everyone

  • @gardnerwriteradventurer
    @gardnerwriteradventurer Місяць тому +4

    Toranaga wanted some amusement in his life and he planned this..

  • @milesroy9564
    @milesroy9564 Місяць тому +25

    Best joke in the series?

    • @jcarry5214
      @jcarry5214 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe. I still think the best was Buntaro complaining about the smell of the pheasant that had been gone for days.

    • @madtitan0825
      @madtitan0825 Місяць тому +4

      @@jcarry5214nah best joke is Yabu kept rewriting his will throughout the season

    • @jcarry5214
      @jcarry5214 Місяць тому +1

      @@madtitan0825 i figured that was a cultural thing, ha.

  • @randallsanchez3161
    @randallsanchez3161 17 днів тому +1

    A courtesan house outside of an area that we would know as a red light district would have all sorts of businesses pop up around it to serve the people there. It will be a very busy area and more people would surround the church as a result. Despite the neighbors, that area is a much greater benefit than being put in an out of the way corner somewhere. Furthermore, I think the brothel will likely be more impacted by the church than vice versa.

  • @alessiodecarolis
    @alessiodecarolis 17 днів тому +4

    Consider how courtesans were revered also in some european cities, as in Venice or Florence, some of their customers were (not so secretly) clergy 's higher-ups.

  • @TooLateForIeago
    @TooLateForIeago 17 днів тому +1

    The mud flats miles from anywhere are the “best” plots in the city?

  • @Dularr
    @Dularr 21 день тому +1

    It's called a outlaw church. Being the teaching closer to the people who need it.

  • @pilotman9819
    @pilotman9819 12 днів тому

    If only the Father knows what that city will become a few centuries later.

  • @roberterlandson8234
    @roberterlandson8234 26 днів тому +3

    This makes sense when you remember Toranaga hates Catholics

    • @mymemoriesofgoldenricefiel6472
      @mymemoriesofgoldenricefiel6472 25 днів тому +3

      Why are you making that decision?
      As a Japanese, I would be surprised if you said it like that.
      The ancient gods of Japan consider the birth and increase of human beings (reproduction) as a natural part of life, and neither reject nor avoid it.
      They do not consider it sinful, nor are they offended by it.
      In Japan, we call the ancient Japanese gods "oya" (distant ancestors of our parents) in the same way we call our parents or ancestors, and consider them as one of our own ancestors.
      Most parents would rejoice at the birth of their children and their growth, wouldn't they?
      Grandparents would likewise rejoice at the birth and growth of their grandchildren, wouldn't they?
      Reproduction is necessary for a child to be born, and it is not something that anyone is forbidden or offended by.
      That is why, since ancient times, brothels and entertainment districts have been set up next to or near shrines in Japan.
      There was no need to hide it or be ashamed of it, because the society recognized that the ancient gods of Japan approved of people engaging in reproductive acts.
      The idea of sin or shame was completely unimaginable in Japan at that time.
      This was the traditional Japanese attitude toward prostitutes and brothels until the United States and other European countries introduced and spread Christianity to Japan.
      So the Japanese rulers of the time followed the old Japanese custom and set up Christian churches next to the prostitutes' towns.
      It is a complete misunderstanding that the missionaries who suddenly came to Japan and the American and European people of today are offended in this way, simply because the American and European people do not know enough about Japan.
      Japanese historians living today often say so.
      They say that this was just the warlords introducing the missionaries to one of the cultures of Japan.
      There are just too many misconceptions and assumptions by people in the US and Europe.
      In fact, there are records of Japanese warlords and officials being surprised at the confusion and anger of the missionaries.
      Their view is that the political component would have been thin.
      This is a scene that shows that the missionaries had not studied Japanese customs and needed a more accurate description of Japan at that time.
      It is unfair to incorporate only the claims of American and European missionaries into the drama.

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV 21 день тому +1

      ​@mymemoriesofgoldenricefiel6472 - But, this is not about reproduction or anything about promulgation, or even about any Japanese gods. It's about sexual desire, pure business, and power play among the elite who patronize these places.
      Even Japanese Buddhist and Shinto worshippers abhor such things. Desire is the greatest cause of suffering in the Buddhist teaching. One must deny such things. Deny one's ego and idea of oneself to attain enlightenment.
      Christian teaching encourages procreation and responsibility of the father to his family. Taking care of his children and faithful to ones wife. Not spend ones money on courtesans and be under the finger of the head mistress.😅😅😅

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV 21 день тому +3

      Very different to his former Lord Oda Nobunaga whose more progressive and welcoming of Western culture. Tokugawa Ieyasu became too paronoid of Western ideal of the people being more questioning of authority or less inclined to follow the established Japanese hierarchical order that Jesuit missionaries teach. He decided to push more on Nationalistic religion like Shintoism or more Zen Buddhism that extol virtue of complete servitude and self sacrifice.

    • @luiscarlosmotasantos729
      @luiscarlosmotasantos729 7 днів тому

      ​@@inisipisTVIn fact, some Buddhist sects support procreation and Shintoism allows it. The other person only exposes the Japanese point of view (or one) that is against the Western one.

  • @GentTX
    @GentTX 21 день тому +1

    And thus, Yoshiwara was born

  • @jcarry5214
    @jcarry5214 Місяць тому +1

    At least they might be able to give us a season that's a dramedy about them becoming non-pillowing soulmates.

  • @geneoliva9584
    @geneoliva9584 Місяць тому +1

    I wonder if before Ieyasu did the same before expelling christians from japan

  • @ManCheetah294
    @ManCheetah294 18 днів тому +1

    Me watching the big battle scene :

  • @sounsure9108
    @sounsure9108 Місяць тому +1

    Unless I missed it this is not a joke that happened in the books she has bought up her own land and plans to make money selling it to other brothels the church is somewhere else in the city

    • @adamseidel9780
      @adamseidel9780 Місяць тому +1

      That makes more sense honestly given that Toranaga is still counting on the church to follow through on an important deal he’s made with them and keep the Christian lords wavering. Doesn’t make a ton of sense to insult them openly at that exact moment. Funny scene though.

  • @Mycroft93
    @Mycroft93 Місяць тому +3

    And did not Christ associate with courtesans Father?

  • @Connor.SG-1Ring
    @Connor.SG-1Ring 19 днів тому +1

    The start of the red light district.

  • @N1k4_Gr1v
    @N1k4_Gr1v Місяць тому +1

    i know that Face

  • @Hossak
    @Hossak Місяць тому +3

    Best of both worlds. Get all churched up and then................ :)

  • @user-dw1og7ck6i
    @user-dw1og7ck6i 17 днів тому

    おおみ様はこの時にやぶしげ様と一緒に大阪に同行することを辞めたのだと思います。遊女の言葉で虎永様を信じてみることにしたのでは

  • @dandansfu
    @dandansfu Місяць тому +8

    Toranaga knows
    You never want to have a building with school boys next to Catholic Church
    And what’s furthest from young boys ?
    Brothel and their customers !!

    • @a.gallardo4321
      @a.gallardo4321 6 днів тому

      Teachers are more likely to go after minors than priests. In this era, the church was the one laying the foundations for Western civilization. The kids' joke is so burned, like it's the only one they know

  • @beebee9803
    @beebee9803 13 днів тому

    This version of "Shogun," is just okay. Can't improve upon the original. When will Hollywood stop trying to do re-makes? It's embarassing !!

  • @softball4evalex
    @softball4evalex Місяць тому +7

    Im not a big history rat, but does this new "pleasure" dustrict soon become the Geisha district we see today? Maybe not here in this show, or even in Gin's lifetime, but from the way courtesans are classed high in society, i can only imagine that their skills would only evolve past physical pleasure and towards the more artistic and reserved style of the geiko/maiko we see now?

    • @Remitonov
      @Remitonov Місяць тому +10

      It's pretty much alluded to the Geisha district, yea.

  • @chingizzhylkybayev8575
    @chingizzhylkybayev8575 3 дні тому

    Why, in this depiction of medieval Japan, are women out in the open? Discussing business plans no less?

  • @johnrobinson4445
    @johnrobinson4445 Місяць тому +1

    Is he worried...or contemplating the relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene?

  • @SrChr778
    @SrChr778 12 днів тому +1

    He's gonna have to live with the fact that "sin" is just a commonplace thing. Plus, I don't think he's ever seen any of those "private parties" the churches tend to have. Boy, he'd be in for a culture shock, right there.

    • @luiscarlosmotasantos729
      @luiscarlosmotasantos729 7 днів тому +1

      Martin Alvito spent practically his entire life in Japan. Father Dell'Acqua smuggled him since he was a minor.

  • @inisipisTV
    @inisipisTV 21 день тому +1

    Very different to his former Lord Oda Nobunaga whose more progressive and welcoming of Western culture (like modern weaponry😅). Tokugawa Ieyasu became too paronoid of Western ideal of the people being more questioning of authority or less inclined to follow the established Japanese hierarchical order that Jesuit missionaries teach. He decided to push more on Nationalistic religion like Shintoism or more Zen Buddhism that extol virtue of complete servitude and self sacrifice.

    • @DreamersOfReality
      @DreamersOfReality 11 днів тому +1

      As if the Catholic Church during this time period wasn't also teaching complete subservience and blind obedience to itself?
      That is the core of missions: expanding the Church's power and influence. Individual missionaries may believe in the "righteousness" of their work, but "saving souls" was never what the institution stood for.

    • @luiscarlosmotasantos729
      @luiscarlosmotasantos729 7 днів тому

      ​@@DreamersOfRealityIn fact, they do, but if they can take advantage to obtain power or influence, they will do so. In Italy they learned that, they wanted to trust the Emperor who many times betrayed them or left them to their fate.

  • @Hermit_Ronin
    @Hermit_Ronin Місяць тому +6

    Fr. Martin has every reason to be concerned and dismayed. Lust is sinful and never a good way to go.

    • @dandansfu
      @dandansfu Місяць тому +3

      I guess if it’s little boys it’s fine then?

    • @Hermit_Ronin
      @Hermit_Ronin Місяць тому +4

      @@dandansfu Any dedicated priest NEVER sins in lust with ANYONE. Otherwise he shouldn’t be a priest.

    • @jacksonferretti3159
      @jacksonferretti3159 Місяць тому

      But they do... and maybe its an opportunity to do good as a Christian... He fails to realize that in this scene

    • @Hermit_Ronin
      @Hermit_Ronin Місяць тому +5

      @@jacksonferretti3159 Any and all priests that I know so far in my life are very devout and truly dedicated to God and Catholic principles. I have absolutely no doubt about their total resistance to lust and other sins unbecoming of a priest. I did not comment on this video to declare superiority of a particular religion. I commented to express hatred of lust and perversion. Especially knowing the harmful effects of such sick behaviors.

    • @Samuel-lf4ul
      @Samuel-lf4ul 20 днів тому +4

      ​@@dandansfuWhoever said that lol?